RE: The Modello packages name must not contains underscore _

2014-10-02 Thread VanCutsem, Geoffroy 


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 From: ronan [mailto:ronan.lemart...@open.eurogiciel.org]
 Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 9:11 AM
 To: VanCutsem, Geoffroy; Manuel Bachmann
 Cc: ivi@lists.tizen.org
 Subject: Re: The Modello packages name must not contains underscore _
 
 
  I guess my question really was whether that meant that all these
  exceptions listed on that page [1] are by default packages that could
  never be included in any Yocto-based distribution?
 
 If you take a pkg (eg:gstreamer-0_10)
 
 yocto call the recipes file:
 gstreamer_0.10.36.bb
 
 for ${PN}_${PV}.bb
 
 PN: package name
 PV: package version
 
 and when the rpm is generate, the file is named:
 ${PN}-${PV}-${PR}.${ARCH}.rpm
 
 the underscore _ is reserve by yocto for recipes name/version delimiter so :
   - Modello_Installer_git.bb mean = PN=Modello PV=Installer_git
Thanks for this explanation, this helps me understand this better.

How do you handle the wpa_supplicant case for example?

 
 
 If you want a alignment between Tizen from OBS/yocto you need to have
 the same package name.
 
 Modello_Installer should become Modello-Installer
 
 Consider the problem in an other view point:
   Does anyone have a justification to keep the actual Modello_* %name
 for the rpm files generate?
I don't, I have no issue with changing the name if it makes life easier for 
everyone.

Thanks,
Geoffroy

Intel Corporation NV/SA
Kings Square, Veldkant 31
2550 Kontich
RPM (Bruxelles) 0415.497.718. 
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Re: The Modello packages name must not contains underscore _

2014-10-02 Thread ronan 



Currently, we don't use the wpa_supplicant package:
I'm mean, we don't use the wpa_supplicant package from Tizen, but from 
yocto wpa-supplicant

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Re: The Modello packages name must not contains underscore _

2014-10-02 Thread Paul Hanchett 
For project that has (needs) so much other work to be done, it seems
counter-intuitive to make still more work for the development team.

Is there a tactical or strategic benefit this change will produce?

Paul

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On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:06 AM, VanCutsem, Geoffroy 
geoffroy.vancut...@intel.com wrote:



  -Original Message-
  From: ronan [mailto:ronan.lemart...@open.eurogiciel.org]
  Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 9:11 AM
  To: VanCutsem, Geoffroy; Manuel Bachmann
  Cc: ivi@lists.tizen.org
  Subject: Re: The Modello packages name must not contains underscore _
 
 
   I guess my question really was whether that meant that all these
   exceptions listed on that page [1] are by default packages that could
   never be included in any Yocto-based distribution?
  
  If you take a pkg (eg:gstreamer-0_10)
 
  yocto call the recipes file:
  gstreamer_0.10.36.bb
 
  for ${PN}_${PV}.bb
 
  PN: package name
  PV: package version
 
  and when the rpm is generate, the file is named:
  ${PN}-${PV}-${PR}.${ARCH}.rpm
 
  the underscore _ is reserve by yocto for recipes name/version
 delimiter so :
- Modello_Installer_git.bb mean = PN=Modello PV=Installer_git
 Thanks for this explanation, this helps me understand this better.

 How do you handle the wpa_supplicant case for example?

 
 
  If you want a alignment between Tizen from OBS/yocto you need to have
  the same package name.
 
  Modello_Installer should become Modello-Installer
 
  Consider the problem in an other view point:
Does anyone have a justification to keep the actual Modello_* %name
  for the rpm files generate?
 I don't, I have no issue with changing the name if it makes life easier
 for everyone.

 Thanks,
 Geoffroy

 Intel Corporation NV/SA
 Kings Square, Veldkant 31
 2550 Kontich
 RPM (Bruxelles) 0415.497.718.
 Citibank, Brussels, account 570/1031255/09

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Re: The Modello packages name must not contains underscore _

2014-10-02 Thread Dominig ar Foll 
Hello,

to be honest the _ in Modello package names does not provide any value
and creates problem.

So please rename those packages without the _

Regards

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Senior Software Architect
Intel Open Source Technology Centre



Le 02/10/2014 17:40, Paul Hanchett a écrit :
 For project that has (needs) so much other work to be done, it seems
 counter-intuitive to make still more work for the development team.

 Is there a tactical or strategic benefit this change will produce?

 Paul

 Paul Hanchett
 The Oregon Business Coach
 http://oregonbusinesscoach.com http://oregonbusinesscoach.net
 ---
 mailto://paul.hanch...@gmail.com mailto:paul.hanch...@gmail.com
 (503) 502-9989

 On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:06 AM, VanCutsem, Geoffroy
 geoffroy.vancut...@intel.com mailto:geoffroy.vancut...@intel.com
 wrote:



  -Original Message-
  From: ronan [mailto:ronan.lemart...@open.eurogiciel.org
 mailto:ronan.lemart...@open.eurogiciel.org]
  Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 9:11 AM
  To: VanCutsem, Geoffroy; Manuel Bachmann
  Cc: ivi@lists.tizen.org mailto:ivi@lists.tizen.org
  Subject: Re: The Modello packages name must not contains
 underscore _
 
 
   I guess my question really was whether that meant that all these
   exceptions listed on that page [1] are by default packages
 that could
   never be included in any Yocto-based distribution?
  
  If you take a pkg (eg:gstreamer-0_10)
 
  yocto call the recipes file:
  gstreamer_0.10.36.bb http://gstreamer_0.10.36.bb
 
  for ${PN}_${PV}.bb
 
  PN: package name
  PV: package version
 
  and when the rpm is generate, the file is named:
  ${PN}-${PV}-${PR}.${ARCH}.rpm
 
  the underscore _ is reserve by yocto for recipes name/version
 delimiter so :
- Modello_Installer_git.bb mean = PN=Modello PV=Installer_git
 Thanks for this explanation, this helps me understand this better.

 How do you handle the wpa_supplicant case for example?

 
 
  If you want a alignment between Tizen from OBS/yocto you need to
 have
  the same package name.
 
  Modello_Installer should become Modello-Installer
 
  Consider the problem in an other view point:
Does anyone have a justification to keep the actual Modello_*
 %name
  for the rpm files generate?
 I don't, I have no issue with changing the name if it makes life
 easier for everyone.

 Thanks,
 Geoffroy

 Intel Corporation NV/SA
 Kings Square, Veldkant 31
 2550 Kontich
 RPM (Bruxelles) 0415.497.718.
 Citibank, Brussels, account 570/1031255/09

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RE: The Modello packages name must not contains underscore _

2014-10-02 Thread Jones, Brian J 
Hi,

I've accepted the patches that remove the _ characters.  Should land in the 
image soon.

Thanks.

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From: IVI [mailto:ivi-boun...@lists.tizen.org] On Behalf Of Dominig ar Foll
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 10:21 AM
To: ivi@lists.tizen.org
Subject: Re: The Modello packages name must not contains underscore _

Hello,

to be honest the _ in Modello package names does not provide any value and 
creates problem.

So please rename those packages without the _

Regards

--
Dominig ar Foll
Senior Software Architect
Intel Open Source Technology Centre



Le 02/10/2014 17:40, Paul Hanchett a écrit :
 For project that has (needs) so much other work to be done, it seems
 counter-intuitive to make still more work for the development team.

 Is there a tactical or strategic benefit this change will produce?

 Paul

 Paul Hanchett
 The Oregon Business Coach
 http://oregonbusinesscoach.com http://oregonbusinesscoach.net
 ---
 mailto://paul.hanch...@gmail.com mailto:paul.hanch...@gmail.com
 (503) 502-9989

 On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:06 AM, VanCutsem, Geoffroy
 geoffroy.vancut...@intel.com mailto:geoffroy.vancut...@intel.com
 wrote:



  -Original Message-
  From: ronan [mailto:ronan.lemart...@open.eurogiciel.org
 mailto:ronan.lemart...@open.eurogiciel.org]
  Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 9:11 AM
  To: VanCutsem, Geoffroy; Manuel Bachmann
  Cc: ivi@lists.tizen.org mailto:ivi@lists.tizen.org
  Subject: Re: The Modello packages name must not contains
 underscore _
 
 
   I guess my question really was whether that meant that all these
   exceptions listed on that page [1] are by default packages
 that could
   never be included in any Yocto-based distribution?
  
  If you take a pkg (eg:gstreamer-0_10)
 
  yocto call the recipes file:
  gstreamer_0.10.36.bb http://gstreamer_0.10.36.bb
 
  for ${PN}_${PV}.bb
 
  PN: package name
  PV: package version
 
  and when the rpm is generate, the file is named:
  ${PN}-${PV}-${PR}.${ARCH}.rpm
 
  the underscore _ is reserve by yocto for recipes name/version
 delimiter so :
- Modello_Installer_git.bb mean = PN=Modello PV=Installer_git
 Thanks for this explanation, this helps me understand this better.

 How do you handle the wpa_supplicant case for example?

 
 
  If you want a alignment between Tizen from OBS/yocto you need to
 have
  the same package name.
 
  Modello_Installer should become Modello-Installer
 
  Consider the problem in an other view point:
Does anyone have a justification to keep the actual Modello_*
 %name
  for the rpm files generate?
 I don't, I have no issue with changing the name if it makes life
 easier for everyone.

 Thanks,
 Geoffroy

 Intel Corporation NV/SA
 Kings Square, Veldkant 31
 2550 Kontich
 RPM (Bruxelles) 0415.497.718.
 Citibank, Brussels, account 570/1031255/09

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Re: The Modello packages name must not contains underscore _

2014-10-01 Thread ronan 



Le 01/10/2014 17:23, Paul Hanchett a écrit :

Must not or should not?


We must change the name
 Yocto do not support underscore _ in the package name.

 We must change the packages name for all Modello packges

The document you reference mentions that
 underscore is actually /required/ in some circumstances...

The document say
1) The maintainer must NOT use an underscore ... as a delimiter.
2) There are a few exceptions to the no underscore '_' rule.

Modello packages  have no justification for using underscore in the 
middle of the package name.


what ever:
Yocto do NOT support the underscore _ in package name.
And we want to build Tizen with Yocto .

The review is done, just waiting for +2 merge, and change anything for 
Tizen:IVI


Ronan


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Re: The Modello packages name must not contains underscore _

2014-10-01 Thread Manuel Bachmann 
Hi Geoffroy,

Yes, that is the issue : It cannot build.

2014-10-01 18:12 GMT+02:00 VanCutsem, Geoffroy geoffroy.vancut...@intel.com
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  -Original Message-
  Yocto do NOT support the underscore _ in package name.
  And we want to build Tizen with Yocto .
 Out of curiosity, does that mean that Yocto just *cannot* build any of
 these?

 Cheers,
 Geoffroy
 Intel Corporation NV/SA
 Kings Square, Veldkant 31
 2550 Kontich
 RPM (Bruxelles) 0415.497.718.
 Citibank, Brussels, account 570/1031255/09

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RE: The Modello packages name must not contains underscore _

2014-10-01 Thread VanCutsem, Geoffroy 


 -Original Message-
 Yocto do NOT support the underscore _ in package name.
 And we want to build Tizen with Yocto .
Out of curiosity, does that mean that Yocto just *cannot* build any of these?

Cheers,
Geoffroy
Intel Corporation NV/SA
Kings Square, Veldkant 31
2550 Kontich
RPM (Bruxelles) 0415.497.718. 
Citibank, Brussels, account 570/1031255/09

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