RE: SMTP error: James trying to relay?
Looks like a DNS problem. Check that you properly set your DNS servers. RemoteDelivery should resolve the domain 'yahoo.com' to an MX record that looks something like mx1.mail.yahoo.com. If the MX record can't be resolved (i.e. you didn't set your DNS servers) then it will attempt to connect directly to the specified domain as a server. --Peter -Original Message- From: J. Norment [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 10:24 PM To: James Users List Subject: SMTP error: James trying to relay? I'm attempting to send a message to a yahoo account. I'm getting this error. Does this look right? 26/12/02 23:32:46 INFO James.Mailet: RemoteDelivery: Attempting delivery of Mail1040967105812-1-to-yahoo.com to host yahoo.com to addresses [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 26/12/02 23:33:07 INFO James.Mailet: RemoteDelivery: Temporary exception delivering mail (Mail1040967105812-1-to-yahoo.com: javax.mail.MessagingException: Could not connect to SMTP host: yahoo.com, port: 25; nested exception is: java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect at com.sun.mail.smtp.SMTPTransport.openServer(SMTPTransport.java:867) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:james-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:james-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: SMTP error: James trying to relay?
Could this be an indication that my ISP is blocking port 25? On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 00:32:13 -0800, Peter M. Goldstein wrote: Looks like a DNS problem. Check that you properly set your DNS servers. RemoteDelivery should resolve the domain 'yahoo.com' to an MX record that looks something like mx1.mail.yahoo.com. If the MX record can't be resolved (i.e. you didn't set your DNS servers) then it will attempt to connect directly to the specified domain as a server. --Peter -Original Message- From: J. Norment [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 10:24 PM To: James Users List Subject: SMTP error: James trying to relay? I'm attempting to send a message to a yahoo account. I'm getting this error. Does this look right? 26/12/02 23:32:46 INFO James.Mailet: RemoteDelivery: Attempting delivery of Mail1040967105812-1-to-yahoo.com to host yahoo.com to addresses [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 26/12/02 23:33:07 INFO James.Mailet: RemoteDelivery: Temporary exception delivering mail (Mail1040967105812-1-to-yahoo.com: javax.mail.MessagingException: Could not connect to SMTP host: yahoo.com, port: 25; nested exception is: java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect at com.sun.mail.smtp.SMTPTransport.openServer(SMTPTransport.java:867) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:james-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:james-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:james-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:james-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: SMTP error: James trying to relay?
How would I check that? ( by connecting to port 25 of another domain? ) I can connect to port 25 of my service provider... which I would expect, as they provide SMTP service. Alternately, how can I check if it is an issue with the way I set up the DNS in the config file (aside from it just not working?) Is there a FAQ that answers these questions? As always, thanks for your time. On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 12:42:59 -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote: You could check that with telnet. --- Noel -Original Message- From: J. Norment [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 12:30 To: James Users List Subject: RE: SMTP error: James trying to relay? Could this be an indication that my ISP is blocking port 25? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:james-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:james-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: SMTP error: James trying to relay?
Is the following excerpt enough? Excerpt from mailet.log: 27/12/02 09:38:23 INFO James.Mailet: RemoteDelivery: Attempting delivery of Mail1041003502156-1-to-yahoo.com to host yahoo.com to addresses [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 27/12/02 09:38:44 INFO James.Mailet: RemoteDelivery: Temporary exception delivering mail (Mail1041003502156-1-to-yahoo.com: javax.mail.MessagingException: Could not connect to SMTP host: yahoo.com, port: 25; nested exception is: java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect at com.sun.mail.smtp.SMTPTransport.openServer(SMTPTransport.java:867) at com.sun.mail.smtp.SMTPTransport.protocolConnect(SMTPTransport.java:156) On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 13:23:46 -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Well, it would help if we knew exactly what problem you are having. What happens when an e-mail is sent to be relayed? Does it go to RemoteDelivery, which owns the Output spool? If so, what errors is RemoteDelivery logging when it attempts to deliver the e-mail? --- Noel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:james-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:james-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SMTP error: James trying to relay?
Someone already wrote to say that THIS error is from not having DNS setup correctly. As you'll see in the stack trace, you are trying to deliver a message to a hostname yahoo.com, which there isn't any. If you had DNS configured, it would be trying mx1.yahoo.com, mx2.yahoo.com, etc... -- Serge Knystautas Loki Technologies - Unstoppable Websites http://www.lokitech.com J. Norment wrote: Is the following excerpt enough? Excerpt from mailet.log: 27/12/02 09:38:23 INFO James.Mailet: RemoteDelivery: Attempting delivery of Mail1041003502156-1-to-yahoo.com to host yahoo.com to addresses [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 27/12/02 09:38:44 INFO James.Mailet: RemoteDelivery: Temporary exception delivering mail (Mail1041003502156-1-to-yahoo.com: javax.mail.MessagingException: Could not connect to SMTP host: yahoo.com, port: 25; nested exception is: java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect at com.sun.mail.smtp.SMTPTransport.openServer(SMTPTransport.java:867) at com.sun.mail.smtp.SMTPTransport.protocolConnect(SMTPTransport.java:156) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: SMTP error: James trying to relay?
Check the james-config.xml file and there will be a place in bold that asks you to enter your DNS servers. (this really ought to be a top FAQ item... the DNS configuration stuff is a bit buried in our FAQ at the moment). Do you want to modify FAQ.xml for it? --- Noel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SMTP error: James trying to relay?
Ah... so if I want to use the SMTP service, I have to be running a DNS server (not service) ? ( name server addresses aren't direct enough access? ) On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 13:55:11 -0500, Serge Knystautas wrote: J. Norment wrote: Ok. So that error cannot come up if port 25 is being blocked by the ISP? ( I meant only to verify that it couldn't... not to second guess anyone. Sometimes different problems produce the same kinds of symptoms. ) I'm a little at a loss on how to set up DNS any differently. On XP, the DNS service is standard. I've tried including the name servers that are resolving my domain, but that didn't work, either. This has nothing to do with how your machine's DNS is configured. Mail servers need their own direct access to a DNS server because of how mail is routed. Check the james-config.xml file and there will be a place in bold that asks you to enter your DNS servers. (this really ought to be a top FAQ item... the DNS configuration stuff is a bit buried in our FAQ at the moment). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SMTP error: James trying to relay?
J. Norment wrote: Ah... so if I want to use the SMTP service, I have to be running a DNS server (not service) ? ( name server addresses aren't direct enough access? ) Sorry, I got confused by bit about DNS service of XP. You were right the first time, a DNS service is a local DNS server, so if you set a name server to 127.0.0.1, that should work. I'm not sure why the name servers that handle your domains wouldn't be responding. If you've got XP, I think you may have nslookup... can you run that from the command line, try to do MX type queries on the servers you're specifying in james-config.xml and see if you get responses? Maybe you're on a NAT'd network that's not letting DNS queries through or something. Not really sure what the cause is, but if James is trying (and therefore failing) to connect to yahoo.com, I'm almost certain it's because it can't reach a DNS server. -- Serge Knystautas Loki Technologies - Unstoppable Websites http://www.lokitech.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SMTP error: James trying to relay?
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Check the james-config.xml file and there will be a place in bold that asks you to enter your DNS servers. (this really ought to be a top FAQ item... the DNS configuration stuff is a bit buried in our FAQ at the moment). Do you want to modify FAQ.xml for it? Well, I may but only after I get the answer right. :) -- Serge Knystautas Loki Technologies - Unstoppable Websites http://www.lokitech.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: SMTP error: James trying to relay?
Ah... so if I want to use the SMTP service, I have to be running a DNS server (not service) ? No, but you do need to configure a dns server entry in config.xml so that the mail server knows whom to contact to lookup MX records. When you tell the mail server to deliver e-mail to jnorment @ soulinstinct.com, the mail server needs to find the MX record for soulinstinct.com. Here is what it looks like if I do it by hand: set q=mx soulinstinct.com Non-authoritative answer: soulinstinct.comMX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mx2.daemonmail.net soulinstinct.comMX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mx3.daemonmail.net soulinstinct.comMX preference = 30, mail exchanger = mx1.daemonmail.net So I see that you have three possible mail servers of differing priority, each handled by daemonmail.net. Two of them are of equal priority, and probably load balance. The third serves as a backup. See: http://www.webville.net/DNSinfo.htm --- Noel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SMTP error: James trying to relay?
Not sure if this is exactly what you want me to do. ( but this should reflect how the local dns service is resolving the records for the email address that I want to send to, right? ) If it is resolving here, and my dns tag is set to 127.0.0.1, should James be able to get the information it needs to send it? set type=mx yahoo.com Server: cdm-208-1-69-bcst.cox-internet.com Address: 208.180.1.69 Non-authoritative answer: yahoo.com MX preference = 1, mail exchanger = mx1.mail.yahoo.com yahoo.com MX preference = 1, mail exchanger = mx2.mail.yahoo.com yahoo.com MX preference = 5, mail exchanger = mx4.mail.yahoo.com yahoo.com nameserver = ns4.yahoo.com yahoo.com nameserver = ns5.yahoo.com yahoo.com nameserver = ns1.yahoo.com yahoo.com nameserver = ns2.yahoo.com yahoo.com nameserver = ns3.yahoo.com mx1.mail.yahoo.com internet address = 64.157.4.84 mx1.mail.yahoo.com internet address = 64.156.215.5 mx1.mail.yahoo.com internet address = 64.157.4.82 mx1.mail.yahoo.com internet address = 64.157.4.83 mx2.mail.yahoo.com internet address = 64.156.215.5 mx2.mail.yahoo.com internet address = 64.156.215.6 mx4.mail.yahoo.com internet address = 216.136.129.18 mx4.mail.yahoo.com internet address = 66.218.86.253 mx4.mail.yahoo.com internet address = 66.218.86.254 mx4.mail.yahoo.com internet address = 216.136.129.15 mx4.mail.yahoo.com internet address = 216.136.129.17 On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 14:49:13 -0500, Serge Knystautas wrote: J. Norment wrote: Ah... so if I want to use the SMTP service, I have to be running a DNS server (not service) ? ( name server addresses aren't direct enough access? ) Sorry, I got confused by bit about DNS service of XP. You were right the first time, a DNS service is a local DNS server, so if you set a name server to 127.0.0.1, that should work. I'm not sure why the name servers that handle your domains wouldn't be responding. If you've got XP, I think you may have nslookup... can you run that from the command line, try to do MX type queries on the servers you're specifying in james-config.xml and see if you get responses? Maybe you're on a NAT'd network that's not letting DNS queries through or something. Not really sure what the cause is, but if James is trying (and therefore failing) to connect to yahoo.com, I'm almost certain it's because it can't reach a DNS server. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SMTP error: James trying to relay?
J. Norment wrote: Not sure if this is exactly what you want me to do. ( but this should reflect how the local dns service is resolving the records for the email address that I want to send to, right? ) If it is resolving here, and my dns tag is set to 127.0.0.1, should James be able to get the information it needs to send it? set type=mx yahoo.com Server: cdm-208-1-69-bcst.cox-internet.com Address: 208.180.1.69 Close, this means you can reach a DNS server but nslookup is using 208.180.1.69 as the DNS server. You can set that as a DNS server in james-config.xml, or try nslookup to query 127.0.0.1. -- Serge Knystautas Loki Technologies - Unstoppable Websites http://www.lokitech.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: SMTP error: James trying to relay?
I'm using ns_.mydyndns.org for domain resolution (they inform me that they don't do recursive lookups, however, so I suspect it will do no good putting those name server addresses in as dns server entries.) I'm trying to send email from sourceapprentice.com (not soulinstinct.com); running nslookup, I get the following for sourceapprentice.com. ( It is the domain that the email is being sent TO that needs the MX resolution, right? -- I'm trying to send mail to a yahoo account: I posted that resolution in another email.) The confusion is that (I assume) my local DNS service -- which is most likely accessing my service provider's DNS servers -- must be what is being used to resolve these addresses. I have an entry for 127.0.0.1 for my dns server in the config.xml file. What am I missing? set type=mx sourceapprentice.com Server: cdm-208-1-69-bcst.cox-internet.com Address: 208.180.1.69 Non-authoritative answer: sourceapprentice.comMX preference = 5, mail exchanger = sourceapprentice.com sourceapprentice.comnameserver = ns3.mydyndns.org sourceapprentice.comnameserver = ns4.mydyndns.org sourceapprentice.comnameserver = ns5.mydyndns.org sourceapprentice.comnameserver = ns1.mydyndns.org sourceapprentice.comnameserver = ns2.mydyndns.org sourceapprentice.cominternet address = 208.180.8.234 ns1.mydyndns.orginternet address = 66.151.188.45 ns5.mydyndns.orginternet address = 66.151.188.46 On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 14:55:38 -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Ah... so if I want to use the SMTP service, I have to be running a DNS server (not service) ? No, but you do need to configure a dns server entry in config.xml so that the mail server knows whom to contact to lookup MX records. When you tell the mail server to deliver e-mail to jnorment @ soulinstinct.com, the mail server needs to find the MX record for soulinstinct.com. Here is what it looks like if I do it by hand: set q=mx soulinstinct.com Non-authoritative answer: soulinstinct.com MX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mx2.daemonmail.net soulinstinct.com MX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mx3.daemonmail.net soulinstinct.com MX preference = 30, mail exchanger = mx1.daemonmail.net So I see that you have three possible mail servers of differing priority, each handled by daemonmail.net. Two of them are of equal priority, and probably load balance. The third serves as a backup. See: http://www.webville.net/DNSinfo.htm --- Noel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:james-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:james-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SMTP error: James trying to relay?
Ok. So, anytime the DNS server changes, I'll need to change it in the James config file? Querying 127.0.0.1 results in the following: set type=mx 127.0.0.1 Server: cdm-208-1-69-bcst.cox-internet.com Address: 208.180.1.69 *** cdm-208-1-69-bcst.cox-internet.com can't find 127.0.0.1: Non-existent domain On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 15:09:56 -0500, Serge Knystautas wrote: J. Norment wrote: Not sure if this is exactly what you want me to do. ( but this should reflect how the local dns service is resolving the records for the email address that I want to send to, right? ) If it is resolving here, and my dns tag is set to 127.0.0.1, should James be able to get the information it needs to send it? set type=mx yahoo.com Server: cdm-208-1-69-bcst.cox-internet.com Address: 208.180.1.69 Close, this means you can reach a DNS server but nslookup is using 208.180.1.69 as the DNS server. You can set that as a DNS server in james-config.xml, or try nslookup to query 127.0.0.1. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: SMTP error: James trying to relay?
Ok... that didn't work ( couldn't find yahoo.com. ) Guess the XP DNS service is not a DNS server. On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 15:46:29 -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Querying 127.0.0.1 results in the following: type server 127.0.0.1 to tell nslookup that you want to use 127.0.0.1 as the DNS server. --- Noel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:james-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:james-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: SMTP error: James trying to relay?
Ok... that didn't work ( couldn't find yahoo.com. ) Guess the XP DNS service is not a DNS server. :-( Yeah, I just tried it here. Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\noelnslookup Default Server: C0A80101.tipt.aol.com Address: 192.168.1.1 server 127.0.0.1 Default Server: [127.0.0.1] Address: 127.0.0.1 set q=mx yahoo.com Server: [127.0.0.1] Address: 127.0.0.1 *** [127.0.0.1] can't find yahoo.com: No response from server OK, that's one for Serge's FAQ item. Windows, including XP, users apparently should find the DNS servers for their ISP, and set those into James. --- Noel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
