[JAWS-Users] Webcam capturing software
Hai first of all I am using asusx200ca note Book. The manufacturer included all Driver except software for Webcam recording taking Photos. Can anyone suggest any Jaws-friendly software to record video to take Photos. One more question the manufacturer says that the Webcam included with this Notebook is HDUVCWebcam is it a HD Webcam. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] help setting up yahoo messenger
many of my friends use yahoo messenger, and if anyone out there uses messenger, i could sure use some help on setting it up, jaws12, and how to use it. thanks For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors
Hi All, I'm running Win7, Outlook Express, J15. I noticed that background foreground colors in new messages are reported as black on black. How can I or, where do I go to change this to black on white? All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Urgent help required for accessing suggestion made ina document
Jaws merely announcing it has comment and revision. On 7/6/14, Alex Lee alexlee...@icloud.com wrote: Yes, I've been trying to figure this out too - when there are comments using the track changes feature, I do not know how to get jaws to read them. Kind regards, Alex Lee On 6 Jul 2014, at 15:06, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote: Jaws is announcing 'form' at this particular point. On 7/6/14, Annette Carr amca...@verizon.net wrote: If the notes are typed, were they inserted using the comments feature or some other feature in Word? Annette -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 7:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Urgent help required for accessing suggestion made ina document Did your teacher type or wrote. If if written no jaws can not read it. -Original Message- From: Mohib Anwar Rafel Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 6:18 AM To: jaws-users-list Subject: [JAWS-Users] Urgent help required for accessing suggestion made ina document Hey friends, my teacher has made certain changes in one MS word document which can be seen by sighted people as those text underlined or something. But how to access these corrections/suggestions with the help of jaws? -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09811767506, 09211400800/ 926800 Skype: mohibrafel For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Holger Fiallo For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09811767506, 09211400800/ 926800 Skype: mohibrafel For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Urgent help required for accessing suggestion made ina document
Yes, I am using jaws 14, not 15. Any solution? On 7/7/14, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote: Jaws merely announcing it has comment and revision. On 7/6/14, Alex Lee alexlee...@icloud.com wrote: Yes, I've been trying to figure this out too - when there are comments using the track changes feature, I do not know how to get jaws to read them. Kind regards, Alex Lee On 6 Jul 2014, at 15:06, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote: Jaws is announcing 'form' at this particular point. On 7/6/14, Annette Carr amca...@verizon.net wrote: If the notes are typed, were they inserted using the comments feature or some other feature in Word? Annette -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 7:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Urgent help required for accessing suggestion made ina document Did your teacher type or wrote. If if written no jaws can not read it. -Original Message- From: Mohib Anwar Rafel Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 6:18 AM To: jaws-users-list Subject: [JAWS-Users] Urgent help required for accessing suggestion made ina document Hey friends, my teacher has made certain changes in one MS word document which can be seen by sighted people as those text underlined or something. But how to access these corrections/suggestions with the help of jaws? -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09811767506, 09211400800/ 926800 Skype: mohibrafel For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Holger Fiallo For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09811767506, 09211400800/ 926800 Skype: mohibrafel For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors
Hi Mike, From what I just found, it appears that you need to send your message in rich text HTML format in order to change the background color. While in an open message, choose the format menu, make sure that rich text format is checked and then open the background sub-menu, and then choose color from the 3 available options. No first letter navigation in the list of colors, so you will just have arrow to white, and then hit enter to check the box. I believe that the text color is determined by the O/S, and cannot be changed. Unless I don't understand what foreground and background colors that Jaws is reporting, I would say that it is reporting it incorrectly, which may be a bug in Jaws or some type of setting. It reports the same to me whether I am in a plain text or html message, and my background color is set to white for rich text format. I am running Jaws 15 latest build, Win 7. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: Jaws-Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 7:45 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi All, I'm running Win7, Outlook Express, J15. I noticed that background foreground colors in new messages are reported as black on black. How can I or, where do I go to change this to black on white? All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors
Good Morning Rick, These are my current settings. With a new message open while in the message edit field, I pressed, Alt + O, for the format menu. For style I have normal checked, Font is set on black, background is set for white, Incoding is Western European Windows, rich text HTML is checked. This is how my emails are all supposedly set. While typing this message I press, Insert + 5, Jaws reports black on black but, once sent received, if I invoke the, Insert + 5, keystroke on the open / received message black on white is reported. So, I'm not sure if what Jaws reports can be trusted or not. I'll have to get my wife other sighted people I know to keep an eye on my messages report back to me if any of them are not readable. Any input about changing background / foreground colors in IE or Windows Explorer would be appreciated. Thank you very much for your reply. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:25 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, From what I just found, it appears that you need to send your message in rich text HTML format in order to change the background color. While in an open message, choose the format menu, make sure that rich text format is checked and then open the background sub-menu, and then choose color from the 3 available options. No first letter navigation in the list of colors, so you will just have arrow to white, and then hit enter to check the box. I believe that the text color is determined by the O/S, and cannot be changed. Unless I don't understand what foreground and background colors that Jaws is reporting, I would say that it is reporting it incorrectly, which may be a bug in Jaws or some type of setting. It reports the same to me whether I am in a plain text or html message, and my background color is set to white for rich text format. I am running Jaws 15 latest build, Win 7. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: Jaws-Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 7:45 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi All, I'm running Win7, Outlook Express, J15. I noticed that background foreground colors in new messages are reported as black on black. How can I or, where do I go to change this to black on white? All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] additions to the programs page
For what it's worth I just placed a link for a version of Outlook Express that works with windows 7 although I make no claims to its stability. It seems fine on the systems I have it on locally so far but the future is always in question. In simple English, use at your own risk. I also just added a link for chicken nugget which is supposed to be very accessible although I personally cannot confirm or deny that statement myself. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors
Here it says black on black. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:04 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Good Morning Rick, These are my current settings. With a new message open while in the message edit field, I pressed, Alt + O, for the format menu. For style I have normal checked, Font is set on black, background is set for white, Incoding is Western European Windows, rich text HTML is checked. This is how my emails are all supposedly set. While typing this message I press, Insert + 5, Jaws reports black on black but, once sent received, if I invoke the, Insert + 5, keystroke on the open / received message black on white is reported. So, I'm not sure if what Jaws reports can be trusted or not. I'll have to get my wife other sighted people I know to keep an eye on my messages report back to me if any of them are not readable. Any input about changing background / foreground colors in IE or Windows Explorer would be appreciated. Thank you very much for your reply. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:25 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, From what I just found, it appears that you need to send your message in rich text HTML format in order to change the background color. While in an open message, choose the format menu, make sure that rich text format is checked and then open the background sub-menu, and then choose color from the 3 available options. No first letter navigation in the list of colors, so you will just have arrow to white, and then hit enter to check the box. I believe that the text color is determined by the O/S, and cannot be changed. Unless I don't understand what foreground and background colors that Jaws is reporting, I would say that it is reporting it incorrectly, which may be a bug in Jaws or some type of setting. It reports the same to me whether I am in a plain text or html message, and my background color is set to white for rich text format. I am running Jaws 15 latest build, Win 7. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: Jaws-Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 7:45 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi All, I'm running Win7, Outlook Express, J15. I noticed that background foreground colors in new messages are reported as black on black. How can I or, where do I go to change this to black on white? All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Urgent help required for accessing suggestion made ina document
Hello, Here are a few suggestions. This applies to Word 2013 and 2010 but the Word methods shown will vary somewhat with earlier versions of Word. I switched to JAWS 14 and the same keystrokes seem to work. However, they seemed to work intermittently in both JAWS 14 and 15. In Word 2013 you can move forward through a document by revision by first turning on track changes by using CTRL with shift and E, and then using Alt followed by R followed by H. You can move backward through a document by revision by using Alt followed by R followed by F. JAWS doesn't always announce that the focus is on a revision but I have found that after moving to a revision using Word 2013's method that if I use right arrow away from it and left arrow back to it JAWS will announce that it is a revision. If this works you can then use CTRL with JAWS key and R to read the revision. If you use Alt followed by R followed by H to move to a revision the choices for accepting or rejecting the revision can be found in the contextual menu by using the application key. The Alt followed by R followed by H activates the Jump to Next Revision button under the review tab. The Alt followed by R followed by F is for the Jump to previous revision button of the review tab. If you are not using Word 2013 then check under the reviewing choices in the version of Word you are using to get the applicable keys to use. You can use Word's Advanced Find dialog to find highlighted text. In Word 2013 and I think in word 2010 you need to go under the home tab and navigate to the Find button by using CTRL with right arrow key a few times or just tab across the lower part of the ribbon under the Home tab. Press spacebar on the Find button and use down arrow key to the Advance Find option and press enter. This brings up the Find box as it was in earlier versions of Word. (If you are using Word 2003 just use CTRL+F). Use tab key and if there is a More button press spacebar. Tab to the Format button and press spacebar. Arrow down to the highlight option and press enter key. Tab to the Find Next button and press spacebar. Dismiss the Find box if necessary by using escape key. Focus should be on the first highlighted area in the document if you started at the top of the document. use CTRL with page down and CTRL with page up to move forward or backward through a document to find the highlighted text. With track changes turned on by using CTRL+Shift+E you can read the revision when you move to it using JAWS key with CTRL and R. If you can turn on track changes using CTRL with shift and E and then use Windows key with semicolon to get the list of things like comments and revisions then use the revisions choice at the bottom of the list. You can arrow down past the link and hear a bit about the revision. Press enter on the link to move to the point in the document where the revision is located. Again though, this method seems to work intermittently AS DOES THE KEYSTROKE FOR LISTING COMMENTS (ctrl+Shift+apostrophe). . When focused on a comment use the keystroke of Alt+Shift+apostrophe. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafel Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 4:26 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Urgent help required for accessing suggestion made ina document Jaws merely announcing it has comment and revision. On 7/6/14, Alex Lee alexlee...@icloud.com wrote: Yes, I've been trying to figure this out too - when there are comments using the track changes feature, I do not know how to get jaws to read them. Kind regards, Alex Lee On 6 Jul 2014, at 15:06, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote: Jaws is announcing 'form' at this particular point. On 7/6/14, Annette Carr amca...@verizon.net wrote: If the notes are typed, were they inserted using the comments feature or some other feature in Word? Annette -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 7:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Urgent help required for accessing suggestion made ina document Did your teacher type or wrote. If if written no jaws can not read it. -Original Message- From: Mohib Anwar Rafel Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 6:18 AM To: jaws-users-list Subject: [JAWS-Users] Urgent help required for accessing suggestion made ina document Hey friends, my teacher has made certain changes in one MS word document which can be seen by sighted people as those text underlined or something. But how to access these corrections/suggestions with the help of jaws? -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09811767506, 09211400800/ 926800 Skype:
Re: [JAWS-Users] Keystrokes For Changing Colors
You can take a look at custom highlighting. I'm not sure what it is that you want to do, but there is some configurability in that area. Take my advice, I don't use it anyway. Steve Lansing, MI - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: Jaws-Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 9:06 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Keystrokes For Changing Colors Hi All, I've been all through the Jaws help topics trying to find keystrokes for changing colors. The only color keystroke I could find is, Insert + 5, this keystroke reports the foreground background colors. Does Jaws have any commands for changing the background font colors? For example, my Internet Explorer Outlook Express colors are black on white. If not, where would a person go to change these color options? I'm running XP, IE8, OE, J13 thru J15. All help will be greatly appreciated. Thank y'all mooy moocho. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors
I'm same as you wrote here. - Original Message - From: Mike B. To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Good Morning Rick, These are my current settings. With a new message open while in the message edit field, I pressed, Alt + O, for the format menu. For style I have normal checked, Font is set on black, background is set for white, Incoding is Western European Windows, rich text HTML is checked. This is how my emails are all supposedly set. While typing this message I press, Insert + 5, Jaws reports black on black but, once sent received, if I invoke the, Insert + 5, keystroke on the open / received message black on white is reported. So, I'm not sure if what Jaws reports can be trusted or not. I'll have to get my wife other sighted people I know to keep an eye on my messages report back to me if any of them are not readable. Any input about changing background / foreground colors in IE or Windows Explorer would be appreciated. Thank you very much for your reply. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:25 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, From what I just found, it appears that you need to send your message in rich text HTML format in order to change the background color. While in an open message, choose the format menu, make sure that rich text format is checked and then open the background sub-menu, and then choose color from the 3 available options. No first letter navigation in the list of colors, so you will just have arrow to white, and then hit enter to check the box. I believe that the text color is determined by the O/S, and cannot be changed. Unless I don't understand what foreground and background colors that Jaws is reporting, I would say that it is reporting it incorrectly, which may be a bug in Jaws or some type of setting. It reports the same to me whether I am in a plain text or html message, and my background color is set to white for rich text format. I am running Jaws 15 latest build, Win 7. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: Jaws-Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 7:45 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi All, I'm running Win7, Outlook Express, J15. I noticed that background foreground colors in new messages are reported as black on black. How can I or, where do I go to change this to black on white? All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] additions to the programs page
is this an easy install? - Original Message - From: David Ferrin To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 9:08 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] additions to the programs page For what it's worth I just placed a link for a version of Outlook Express that works with windows 7 although I make no claims to its stability. It seems fine on the systems I have it on locally so far but the future is always in question. In simple English, use at your own risk. I also just added a link for chicken nugget which is supposed to be very accessible although I personally cannot confirm or deny that statement myself. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] additions to the programs page
I use Chicken Nugget. It's a nice accessible Twitter client. On 7/7/14, Trish patricia.zoell...@tx.rr.com wrote: is this an easy install? - Original Message - From: David Ferrin To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 9:08 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] additions to the programs page For what it's worth I just placed a link for a version of Outlook Express that works with windows 7 although I make no claims to its stability. It seems fine on the systems I have it on locally so far but the future is always in question. In simple English, use at your own risk. I also just added a link for chicken nugget which is supposed to be very accessible although I personally cannot confirm or deny that statement myself. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- Pen Name: Mellissa Green Twitter @abluegreenunivs For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] additions to the programs page
I use chicken nugget all the time and like it -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 9:08 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] additions to the programs page For what it's worth I just placed a link for a version of Outlook Express that works with windows 7 although I make no claims to its stability. It seems fine on the systems I have it on locally so far but the future is always in question. In simple English, use at your own risk. I also just added a link for chicken nugget which is supposed to be very accessible although I personally cannot confirm or deny that statement myself. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] additions to the programs page
Hi David Trish, A word of caution about this OE6 for Win7. If you run either Vipre or Eset Nod 32 antivirus, they'll have to be uninstalled before this OE6 will install then, after reinstalling your Vipre or Nod 32 each antivirus requires a minor tweak. Also, this OE6 will not install if Windows Live Mail is installed or so, the creator claims. OE6 for whatever other reasons there are may not work for everybody. But, if you get it installed, it's great! Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 7:08 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] additions to the programs page For what it's worth I just placed a link for a version of Outlook Express that works with windows 7 although I make no claims to its stability. It seems fine on the systems I have it on locally so far but the future is always in question. In simple English, use at your own risk. I also just added a link for chicken nugget which is supposed to be very accessible although I personally cannot confirm or deny that statement myself. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors
Hi David, My messages to the list read, black on white. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Here it says black on black. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:04 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Good Morning Rick, These are my current settings. With a new message open while in the message edit field, I pressed, Alt + O, for the format menu. For style I have normal checked, Font is set on black, background is set for white, Incoding is Western European Windows, rich text HTML is checked. This is how my emails are all supposedly set. While typing this message I press, Insert + 5, Jaws reports black on black but, once sent received, if I invoke the, Insert + 5, keystroke on the open / received message black on white is reported. So, I'm not sure if what Jaws reports can be trusted or not. I'll have to get my wife other sighted people I know to keep an eye on my messages report back to me if any of them are not readable. Any input about changing background / foreground colors in IE or Windows Explorer would be appreciated. Thank you very much for your reply. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:25 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, From what I just found, it appears that you need to send your message in rich text HTML format in order to change the background color. While in an open message, choose the format menu, make sure that rich text format is checked and then open the background sub-menu, and then choose color from the 3 available options. No first letter navigation in the list of colors, so you will just have arrow to white, and then hit enter to check the box. I believe that the text color is determined by the O/S, and cannot be changed. Unless I don't understand what foreground and background colors that Jaws is reporting, I would say that it is reporting it incorrectly, which may be a bug in Jaws or some type of setting. It reports the same to me whether I am in a plain text or html message, and my background color is set to white for rich text format. I am running Jaws 15 latest build, Win 7. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: Jaws-Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 7:45 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi All, I'm running Win7, Outlook Express, J15. I noticed that background foreground colors in new messages are reported as black on black. How can I or, where do I go to change this to black on white? All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] additions to the programs page
I would also like to add I won't be doing the install for anybody other than myself because of the fact I do not know the long term repercussions of this program. Can anybody remember the windows mail hack of a couple of years ago. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 1:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] additions to the programs page Hi David Trish, A word of caution about this OE6 for Win7. If you run either Vipre or Eset Nod 32 antivirus, they'll have to be uninstalled before this OE6 will install then, after reinstalling your Vipre or Nod 32 each antivirus requires a minor tweak. Also, this OE6 will not install if Windows Live Mail is installed or so, the creator claims. OE6 for whatever other reasons there are may not work for everybody. But, if you get it installed, it's great! Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 7:08 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] additions to the programs page For what it's worth I just placed a link for a version of Outlook Express that works with windows 7 although I make no claims to its stability. It seems fine on the systems I have it on locally so far but the future is always in question. In simple English, use at your own risk. I also just added a link for chicken nugget which is supposed to be very accessible although I personally cannot confirm or deny that statement myself. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] additions to the programs page
Which program are you refering? David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 11:26 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] additions to the programs page is this an easy install? - Original Message - From: David Ferrin To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 9:08 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] additions to the programs page For what it's worth I just placed a link for a version of Outlook Express that works with windows 7 although I make no claims to its stability. It seems fine on the systems I have it on locally so far but the future is always in question. In simple English, use at your own risk. I also just added a link for chicken nugget which is supposed to be very accessible although I personally cannot confirm or deny that statement myself. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] additions to the programs page
Hi Again, 1 more note, I forgot to add that the Vipre Nod 32 antivirus programs must be uninstalled not just disabled! HTH Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Mike B. To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] additions to the programs page Hi David Trish, A word of caution about this OE6 for Win7. If you run either Vipre or Eset Nod 32 antivirus, they'll have to be uninstalled before this OE6 will install then, after reinstalling your Vipre or Nod 32 each antivirus requires a minor tweak. Also, this OE6 will not install if Windows Live Mail is installed or so, the creator claims. OE6 for whatever other reasons there are may not work for everybody. But, if you get it installed, it's great! Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 7:08 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] additions to the programs page For what it's worth I just placed a link for a version of Outlook Express that works with windows 7 although I make no claims to its stability. It seems fine on the systems I have it on locally so far but the future is always in question. In simple English, use at your own risk. I also just added a link for chicken nugget which is supposed to be very accessible although I personally cannot confirm or deny that statement myself. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Keystrokes For Changing Colors
Hi Steve, Thank you very much for your tip. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Steve To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Keystrokes For Changing Colors You can take a look at custom highlighting. I'm not sure what it is that you want to do, but there is some configurability in that area. Take my advice, I don't use it anyway. Steve Lansing, MI - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: Jaws-Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 9:06 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Keystrokes For Changing Colors Hi All, I've been all through the Jaws help topics trying to find keystrokes for changing colors. The only color keystroke I could find is, Insert + 5, this keystroke reports the foreground background colors. Does Jaws have any commands for changing the background font colors? For example, my Internet Explorer Outlook Express colors are black on white. If not, where would a person go to change these color options? I'm running XP, IE8, OE, J13 thru J15. All help will be greatly appreciated. Thank y'all mooy moocho. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors
Hi If you're checking on the colors of the character where the PC cursor is, it could be that the colors where the carrot is are different than the rest of the document. I've seen this happen using the JAWS cursor also. It's probably best to use the invisible cursor and have it placed somewhere other than where the JAWS or PC cursors are. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:04 To: jaws-users-l...@sjaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Good Morning Rick, These are my current settings. With a new message open while in the message edit field, I pressed, Alt + O, for the format menu. For style I have normal checked, Font is set on black, background is set for white, Incoding is Western European Windows, rich text HTML is checked. This is how my emails are all supposedly set. While typing this message I press, Insert + 5, Jaws reports black on black but, once sent received, if I invoke the, Insert + 5, keystroke on the open / received message black on white is reported. So, I'm not sure if what Jaws reports can be trusted or not. I'll have to get my wife other sighted people I know to keep an eye on my messages report back to me if any of them are not readable. Any input about changing background / foreground colors in IE or Windows Explorer would be appreciated. Thank you very much for your reply. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:25 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, From what I just found, it appears that you need to send your message in rich text HTML format in order to change the background color. While in an open message, choose the format menu, make sure that rich text format is checked and then open the background sub-menu, and then choose color from the 3 available options. No first letter navigation in the list of colors, so you will just have arrow to white, and then hit enter to check the box. I believe that the text color is determined by the O/S, and cannot be changed. Unless I don't understand what foreground and background colors that Jaws is reporting, I would say that it is reporting it incorrectly, which may be a bug in Jaws or some type of setting. It reports the same to me whether I am in a plain text or html message, and my background color is set to white for rich text format. I am running Jaws 15 latest build, Win 7. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: Jaws-Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 7:45 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi All, I'm running Win7, Outlook Express, J15. I noticed that background foreground colors in new messages are reported as black on black. How can I or, where do I go to change this to black on white? All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] additions to the programs page
I was referring to the email client, but after reading more on it, think I'll just stay with what I have. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] additions to the programs page Which program are you refering? David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 11:26 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] additions to the programs page is this an easy install? - Original Message - From: David Ferrin To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 9:08 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] additions to the programs page For what it's worth I just placed a link for a version of Outlook Express that works with windows 7 although I make no claims to its stability. It seems fine on the systems I have it on locally so far but the future is always in question. In simple English, use at your own risk. I also just added a link for chicken nugget which is supposed to be very accessible although I personally cannot confirm or deny that statement myself. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors
Hi Mike, Thank you very much for the added info. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Mike O'Brien To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi If you're checking on the colors of the character where the PC cursor is, it could be that the colors where the carrot is are different than the rest of the document. I've seen this happen using the JAWS cursor also. It's probably best to use the invisible cursor and have it placed somewhere other than where the JAWS or PC cursors are. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:04 To: jaws-users-l...@sjaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Good Morning Rick, These are my current settings. With a new message open while in the message edit field, I pressed, Alt + O, for the format menu. For style I have normal checked, Font is set on black, background is set for white, Incoding is Western European Windows, rich text HTML is checked. This is how my emails are all supposedly set. While typing this message I press, Insert + 5, Jaws reports black on black but, once sent received, if I invoke the, Insert + 5, keystroke on the open / received message black on white is reported. So, I'm not sure if what Jaws reports can be trusted or not. I'll have to get my wife other sighted people I know to keep an eye on my messages report back to me if any of them are not readable. Any input about changing background / foreground colors in IE or Windows Explorer would be appreciated. Thank you very much for your reply. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:25 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, From what I just found, it appears that you need to send your message in rich text HTML format in order to change the background color. While in an open message, choose the format menu, make sure that rich text format is checked and then open the background sub-menu, and then choose color from the 3 available options. No first letter navigation in the list of colors, so you will just have arrow to white, and then hit enter to check the box. I believe that the text color is determined by the O/S, and cannot be changed. Unless I don't understand what foreground and background colors that Jaws is reporting, I would say that it is reporting it incorrectly, which may be a bug in Jaws or some type of setting. It reports the same to me whether I am in a plain text or html message, and my background color is set to white for rich text format. I am running Jaws 15 latest build, Win 7. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: Jaws-Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 7:45 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi All, I'm running Win7, Outlook Express, J15. I noticed that background foreground colors in new messages are reported as black on black. How can I or, where do I go to change this to black on white? All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors
Hi Mike, The same condition is true here. The version of Jaws 13 thru 15 doesn't make any difference. - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Good Morning Rick, These are my current settings. With a new message open while in the message edit field, I pressed, Alt + O, for the format menu. For style I have normal checked, Font is set on black, background is set for white, Incoding is Western European Windows, rich text HTML is checked. This is how my emails are all supposedly set. While typing this message I press, Insert + 5, Jaws reports black on black but, once sent received, if I invoke the, Insert + 5, keystroke on the open / received message black on white is reported. So, I'm not sure if what Jaws reports can be trusted or not. I'll have to get my wife other sighted people I know to keep an eye on my messages report back to me if any of them are not readable. Any input about changing background / foreground colors in IE or Windows Explorer would be appreciated. Thank you very much for your reply. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:25 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, From what I just found, it appears that you need to send your message in rich text HTML format in order to change the background color. While in an open message, choose the format menu, make sure that rich text format is checked and then open the background sub-menu, and then choose color from the 3 available options. No first letter navigation in the list of colors, so you will just have arrow to white, and then hit enter to check the box. I believe that the text color is determined by the O/S, and cannot be changed. Unless I don't understand what foreground and background colors that Jaws is reporting, I would say that it is reporting it incorrectly, which may be a bug in Jaws or some type of setting. It reports the same to me whether I am in a plain text or html message, and my background color is set to white for rich text format. I am running Jaws 15 latest build, Win 7. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: Jaws-Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 7:45 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi All, I'm running Win7, Outlook Express, J15. I noticed that background foreground colors in new messages are reported as black on black. How can I or, where do I go to change this to black on white? All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors
Howdy Rick, Yes, that's what I noticed here as well. Thank you very much for the verification. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, The same condition is true here. The version of Jaws 13 thru 15 doesn't make any difference. - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Good Morning Rick, These are my current settings. With a new message open while in the message edit field, I pressed, Alt + O, for the format menu. For style I have normal checked, Font is set on black, background is set for white, Incoding is Western European Windows, rich text HTML is checked. This is how my emails are all supposedly set. While typing this message I press, Insert + 5, Jaws reports black on black but, once sent received, if I invoke the, Insert + 5, keystroke on the open / received message black on white is reported. So, I'm not sure if what Jaws reports can be trusted or not. I'll have to get my wife other sighted people I know to keep an eye on my messages report back to me if any of them are not readable. Any input about changing background / foreground colors in IE or Windows Explorer would be appreciated. Thank you very much for your reply. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:25 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, From what I just found, it appears that you need to send your message in rich text HTML format in order to change the background color. While in an open message, choose the format menu, make sure that rich text format is checked and then open the background sub-menu, and then choose color from the 3 available options. No first letter navigation in the list of colors, so you will just have arrow to white, and then hit enter to check the box. I believe that the text color is determined by the O/S, and cannot be changed. Unless I don't understand what foreground and background colors that Jaws is reporting, I would say that it is reporting it incorrectly, which may be a bug in Jaws or some type of setting. It reports the same to me whether I am in a plain text or html message, and my background color is set to white for rich text format. I am running Jaws 15 latest build, Win 7. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: Jaws-Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 7:45 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi All, I'm running Win7, Outlook Express, J15. I noticed that background foreground colors in new messages are reported as black on black. How can I or, where do I go to change this to black on white? All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] additions to the programs page
where is this programs page? From: David Ferrin Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:08 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] additions to the programs page For what it's worth I just placed a link for a version of Outlook Express that works with windows 7 although I make no claims to its stability. It seems fine on the systems I have it on locally so far but the future is always in question. In simple English, use at your own risk. I also just added a link for chicken nugget which is supposed to be very accessible although I personally cannot confirm or deny that statement myself. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] additions to the programs page
Hi Simon, Here you go: http://www.jaws-users.com Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: simon To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] additions to the programs page where is this programs page? From: David Ferrin Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:08 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] additions to the programs page For what it's worth I just placed a link for a version of Outlook Express that works with windows 7 although I make no claims to its stability. It seems fine on the systems I have it on locally so far but the future is always in question. In simple English, use at your own risk. I also just added a link for chicken nugget which is supposed to be very accessible although I personally cannot confirm or deny that statement myself. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors
Hello Mike, The insert F5 does not seem to be working correctly. I am not using Outlook Express but Outlook 2013 but this seems to be true in Word as well. If you hold down insert and press F5 twice you will hear 18 zeros. The first nine are for the RGB value for the foreground color and the second set of nine digits is for the RGB values of the background color. For a black character on a default white background the values should be nine zeros and nine digits with 255 as their value. However, if you change to the Attributes and Color scheme and use up arrow when you are on a top line of text you hear that the background is white even though insert with F5 says black on black. If you type some text and change it to the default white font color when you check the RGB values they might still indicate all black but if you select the white text and check the RGB values in the custom color box for font color the RGB is then given correctly for the white color. When using the Attributes and color scheme if I use CTRL with Home to move to the top of this message and then use up arrow key I am told that there is a white background. It does appear that the insert F5 is not working. Also with the Attributes and Color scheme if I read current line I am told there is a white background. Therefore, the reporting of nine zeros for the background white color is not right. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 10:26 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Howdy Rick, Yes, that's what I noticed here as well. Thank you very much for the verification. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, The same condition is true here. The version of Jaws 13 thru 15 doesn't make any difference. - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Good Morning Rick, These are my current settings. With a new message open while in the message edit field, I pressed, Alt + O, for the format menu. For style I have normal checked, Font is set on black, background is set for white, Incoding is Western European Windows, rich text HTML is checked. This is how my emails are all supposedly set. While typing this message I press, Insert + 5, Jaws reports black on black but, once sent received, if I invoke the, Insert + 5, keystroke on the open / received message black on white is reported. So, I'm not sure if what Jaws reports can be trusted or not. I'll have to get my wife other sighted people I know to keep an eye on my messages report back to me if any of them are not readable. Any input about changing background / foreground colors in IE or Windows Explorer would be appreciated. Thank you very much for your reply. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:25 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, From what I just found, it appears that you need to send your message in rich text HTML format in order to change the background color. While in an open message, choose the format menu, make sure that rich text format is checked and then open the background sub-menu, and then choose color from the 3 available options. No first letter navigation in the list of colors, so you will just have arrow to white, and then hit enter to check the box. I believe that the text color is determined by the O/S, and cannot be changed. Unless I don't understand what foreground and background colors that Jaws is reporting, I would say that it is reporting it incorrectly, which may be a bug in Jaws or some type of setting. It reports the same to me whether I am in a plain text or html message, and my background color is set to white for rich text format. I am running Jaws 15 latest build, Win 7. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: Jaws-Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 7:45 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi All, I'm running Win7, Outlook Express, J15. I noticed that background foreground colors in new messages are reported as black on black. How can I or, where do I go to change this to black on white? All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from
Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors
Hi Brian, Minor slip, it's not F5, it's 5 on the number row. Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hello Mike, The insert F5 does not seem to be working correctly. I am not using Outlook Express but Outlook 2013 but this seems to be true in Word as well. If you hold down insert and press F5 twice you will hear 18 zeros. The first nine are for the RGB value for the foreground color and the second set of nine digits is for the RGB values of the background color. For a black character on a default white background the values should be nine zeros and nine digits with 255 as their value. However, if you change to the Attributes and Color scheme and use up arrow when you are on a top line of text you hear that the background is white even though insert with F5 says black on black. If you type some text and change it to the default white font color when you check the RGB values they might still indicate all black but if you select the white text and check the RGB values in the custom color box for font color the RGB is then given correctly for the white color. When using the Attributes and color scheme if I use CTRL with Home to move to the top of this message and then use up arrow key I am told that there is a white background. It does appear that the insert F5 is not working. Also with the Attributes and Color scheme if I read current line I am told there is a white background. Therefore, the reporting of nine zeros for the background white color is not right. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 10:26 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Howdy Rick, Yes, that's what I noticed here as well. Thank you very much for the verification. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, The same condition is true here. The version of Jaws 13 thru 15 doesn't make any difference. - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Good Morning Rick, These are my current settings. With a new message open while in the message edit field, I pressed, Alt + O, for the format menu. For style I have normal checked, Font is set on black, background is set for white, Incoding is Western European Windows, rich text HTML is checked. This is how my emails are all supposedly set. While typing this message I press, Insert + 5, Jaws reports black on black but, once sent received, if I invoke the, Insert + 5, keystroke on the open / received message black on white is reported. So, I'm not sure if what Jaws reports can be trusted or not. I'll have to get my wife other sighted people I know to keep an eye on my messages report back to me if any of them are not readable. Any input about changing background / foreground colors in IE or Windows Explorer would be appreciated. Thank you very much for your reply. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:25 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, From what I just found, it appears that you need to send your message in rich text HTML format in order to change the background color. While in an open message, choose the format menu, make sure that rich text format is checked and then open the background sub-menu, and then choose color from the 3 available options. No first letter navigation in the list of colors, so you will just have arrow to white, and then hit enter to check the box. I believe that the text color is determined by the O/S, and cannot be changed. Unless I don't understand what foreground and background colors that Jaws is reporting, I would say that it is reporting it incorrectly, which may be a bug in Jaws or some type of setting. It reports the same to me whether I am in a plain text or html message, and my background color is set to white for rich text format. I am running Jaws 15 latest build, Win 7. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: Jaws-Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 7:45 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi All, I'm running Win7, Outlook Express,
Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors
quite right Rick, thank you for the correction. Take care Brian Lee brianl...@hotmail.com On Jul 7, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com wrote: Hi Brian, Minor slip, it's not F5, it's 5 on the number row. Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hello Mike, The insert F5 does not seem to be working correctly. I am not using Outlook Express but Outlook 2013 but this seems to be true in Word as well. If you hold down insert and press F5 twice you will hear 18 zeros. The first nine are for the RGB value for the foreground color and the second set of nine digits is for the RGB values of the background color. For a black character on a default white background the values should be nine zeros and nine digits with 255 as their value. However, if you change to the Attributes and Color scheme and use up arrow when you are on a top line of text you hear that the background is white even though insert with F5 says black on black. If you type some text and change it to the default white font color when you check the RGB values they might still indicate all black but if you select the white text and check the RGB values in the custom color box for font color the RGB is then given correctly for the white color. When using the Attributes and color scheme if I use CTRL with Home to move to the top of this message and then use up arrow key I am told that there is a white background. It does appear that the insert F5 is not working. Also with the Attributes and Color scheme if I read current line I am told there is a white background. Therefore, the reporting of nine zeros for the background white color is not right. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 10:26 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Howdy Rick, Yes, that's what I noticed here as well. Thank you very much for the verification. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, The same condition is true here. The version of Jaws 13 thru 15 doesn't make any difference. - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Good Morning Rick, These are my current settings. With a new message open while in the message edit field, I pressed, Alt + O, for the format menu. For style I have normal checked, Font is set on black, background is set for white, Incoding is Western European Windows, rich text HTML is checked. This is how my emails are all supposedly set. While typing this message I press, Insert + 5, Jaws reports black on black but, once sent received, if I invoke the, Insert + 5, keystroke on the open / received message black on white is reported. So, I'm not sure if what Jaws reports can be trusted or not. I'll have to get my wife other sighted people I know to keep an eye on my messages report back to me if any of them are not readable. Any input about changing background / foreground colors in IE or Windows Explorer would be appreciated. Thank you very much for your reply. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:25 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, From what I just found, it appears that you need to send your message in rich text HTML format in order to change the background color. While in an open message, choose the format menu, make sure that rich text format is checked and then open the background sub-menu, and then choose color from the 3 available options. No first letter navigation in the list of colors, so you will just have arrow to white, and then hit enter to check the box. I believe that the text color is determined by the O/S, and cannot be changed. Unless I don't understand what foreground and background colors that Jaws is reporting, I would say that it is reporting it incorrectly, which may be a bug in Jaws or some type of setting. It reports the same to me whether I am in a plain text or html message, and my background color is set to white for rich text format. I am running Jaws 15 latest build, Win 7. HTH, Rick Justice -
[JAWS-Users] My conclusions on OE V Wlm for my particular needs. My story....
Hi all, In December 2013, having considered my options for replacing my old trusty HP desktop PC running WinXP and JFW11 , I had a new PC built to my specifications and Windows7 installed as the operating system plus Office2013 and Jaws15. My first challenge was to decide what POP3 email client to use with my 5 very active email accounts, and at first it seemed a good idea to use Outlook, but after struggling with it for a week, I gave up on the Idea , it seemed far too confusing with all it's bells and whistles. As a possible alternative, I spent a great deal of time trying the Various versions of OE for Windows7 on the technical list I subscribe to. However, in spite of the great help I received from many lister's, I Just could not get OE to work properly , in fact this inadvertently caused problems installing Microsoft updates, I had to let the Microsoft disability help desk sort out the problem for me, it took them over an hour to fix it. I thought why not carry on with WLM, I had heard that it was a bit difficult using the ribbons, however it was quite easy once you take the trouble to read up on the way they are arranged, in practice I can see some of the advantages, and in reality, the ribbons are quite logical to use. I must say the excellent Jaws guide for WLM by David Bailes helped a great deal, it can be found at:http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Windows-Live-Mail-2011-Guide.html WLM seems to suit my particular needs, and it's working outg great for me. So I say goodbye my old friend Outlook Express, you were great in your day, but time marches on. Marion Contact marion_wood...@yahoo.co.uk A proud member of the Roses Forum. “The only person you are destined to become is the person you decide to be.” Ralph Waldo Emerson For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Jaws firefox
For some reason when I open firefox lately I can't move on the page unless I tab. What would cause the virtual pc cursor to suddenly stop working when I'm on a web page? Although when I press jawskey+z it says virtual pc cursor off, which means it was already on but I cannot arrow anywhere on the page? The version of firefox I have is 300.0 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors
Hi Brian, Try the keystroke, Insert + 5, not, Insert + F5, see if that keystroke will report the colors correctly. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Brian Lee To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hello Mike, The insert F5 does not seem to be working correctly. I am not using Outlook Express but Outlook 2013 but this seems to be true in Word as well. If you hold down insert and press F5 twice you will hear 18 zeros. The first nine are for the RGB value for the foreground color and the second set of nine digits is for the RGB values of the background color. For a black character on a default white background the values should be nine zeros and nine digits with 255 as their value. However, if you change to the Attributes and Color scheme and use up arrow when you are on a top line of text you hear that the background is white even though insert with F5 says black on black. If you type some text and change it to the default white font color when you check the RGB values they might still indicate all black but if you select the white text and check the RGB values in the custom color box for font color the RGB is then given correctly for the white color. When using the Attributes and color scheme if I use CTRL with Home to move to the top of this message and then use up arrow key I am told that there is a white background. It does appear that the insert F5 is not working. Also with the Attributes and Color scheme if I read current line I am told there is a white background. Therefore, the reporting of nine zeros for the background white color is not right. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 10:26 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Howdy Rick, Yes, that's what I noticed here as well. Thank you very much for the verification. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, The same condition is true here. The version of Jaws 13 thru 15 doesn't make any difference. - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Good Morning Rick, These are my current settings. With a new message open while in the message edit field, I pressed, Alt + O, for the format menu. For style I have normal checked, Font is set on black, background is set for white, Incoding is Western European Windows, rich text HTML is checked. This is how my emails are all supposedly set. While typing this message I press, Insert + 5, Jaws reports black on black but, once sent received, if I invoke the, Insert + 5, keystroke on the open / received message black on white is reported. So, I'm not sure if what Jaws reports can be trusted or not. I'll have to get my wife other sighted people I know to keep an eye on my messages report back to me if any of them are not readable. Any input about changing background / foreground colors in IE or Windows Explorer would be appreciated. Thank you very much for your reply. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:25 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, From what I just found, it appears that you need to send your message in rich text HTML format in order to change the background color. While in an open message, choose the format menu, make sure that rich text format is checked and then open the background sub-menu, and then choose color from the 3 available options. No first letter navigation in the list of colors, so you will just have arrow to white, and then hit enter to check the box. I believe that the text color is determined by the O/S, and cannot be changed. Unless I don't understand what foreground and background colors that Jaws is reporting, I would say that it is reporting it incorrectly, which may be a bug in Jaws or some type of setting. It reports the same to me whether I am in a plain text or html message, and my background color is set to white for rich text format. I am running Jaws 15 latest build, Win 7. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: Jaws-Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 7:45 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changing
Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors
Hi Again Brian, I'm not on my Win7 computer at the moment but, on XP if I press, Insert + 5 twice, I get the characters you speak of while in an open message , invoking the keystroke on a closed message gives different sets of numbers but, Jaws also reports that on a closed message the colors are white on midnight blue. This a cool tip. Thank you mooy moocho! Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Brian Lee To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hello Mike, The insert F5 does not seem to be working correctly. I am not using Outlook Express but Outlook 2013 but this seems to be true in Word as well. If you hold down insert and press F5 twice you will hear 18 zeros. The first nine are for the RGB value for the foreground color and the second set of nine digits is for the RGB values of the background color. For a black character on a default white background the values should be nine zeros and nine digits with 255 as their value. However, if you change to the Attributes and Color scheme and use up arrow when you are on a top line of text you hear that the background is white even though insert with F5 says black on black. If you type some text and change it to the default white font color when you check the RGB values they might still indicate all black but if you select the white text and check the RGB values in the custom color box for font color the RGB is then given correctly for the white color. When using the Attributes and color scheme if I use CTRL with Home to move to the top of this message and then use up arrow key I am told that there is a white background. It does appear that the insert F5 is not working. Also with the Attributes and Color scheme if I read current line I am told there is a white background. Therefore, the reporting of nine zeros for the background white color is not right. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 10:26 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Howdy Rick, Yes, that's what I noticed here as well. Thank you very much for the verification. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, The same condition is true here. The version of Jaws 13 thru 15 doesn't make any difference. - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Good Morning Rick, These are my current settings. With a new message open while in the message edit field, I pressed, Alt + O, for the format menu. For style I have normal checked, Font is set on black, background is set for white, Incoding is Western European Windows, rich text HTML is checked. This is how my emails are all supposedly set. While typing this message I press, Insert + 5, Jaws reports black on black but, once sent received, if I invoke the, Insert + 5, keystroke on the open / received message black on white is reported. So, I'm not sure if what Jaws reports can be trusted or not. I'll have to get my wife other sighted people I know to keep an eye on my messages report back to me if any of them are not readable. Any input about changing background / foreground colors in IE or Windows Explorer would be appreciated. Thank you very much for your reply. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:25 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, From what I just found, it appears that you need to send your message in rich text HTML format in order to change the background color. While in an open message, choose the format menu, make sure that rich text format is checked and then open the background sub-menu, and then choose color from the 3 available options. No first letter navigation in the list of colors, so you will just have arrow to white, and then hit enter to check the box. I believe that the text color is determined by the O/S, and cannot be changed. Unless I don't understand what foreground and background colors that Jaws is reporting, I would say that it is reporting it incorrectly, which may be a bug in Jaws or some type of setting. It reports the same to me whether I am in a plain text or html message, and my background color is set to white for rich text format. I am running
Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors
aren't you folks getting carried away with this? -Original Message- From: Brian Lee Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 3:44 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hello Mike, The insert F5 does not seem to be working correctly. I am not using Outlook Express but Outlook 2013 but this seems to be true in Word as well. If you hold down insert and press F5 twice you will hear 18 zeros. The first nine are for the RGB value for the foreground color and the second set of nine digits is for the RGB values of the background color. For a black character on a default white background the values should be nine zeros and nine digits with 255 as their value. However, if you change to the Attributes and Color scheme and use up arrow when you are on a top line of text you hear that the background is white even though insert with F5 says black on black. If you type some text and change it to the default white font color when you check the RGB values they might still indicate all black but if you select the white text and check the RGB values in the custom color box for font color the RGB is then given correctly for the white color. When using the Attributes and color scheme if I use CTRL with Home to move to the top of this message and then use up arrow key I am told that there is a white background. It does appear that the insert F5 is not working. Also with the Attributes and Color scheme if I read current line I am told there is a white background. Therefore, the reporting of nine zeros for the background white color is not right. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 10:26 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Howdy Rick, Yes, that's what I noticed here as well. Thank you very much for the verification. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, The same condition is true here. The version of Jaws 13 thru 15 doesn't make any difference. - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Good Morning Rick, These are my current settings. With a new message open while in the message edit field, I pressed, Alt + O, for the format menu. For style I have normal checked, Font is set on black, background is set for white, Incoding is Western European Windows, rich text HTML is checked. This is how my emails are all supposedly set. While typing this message I press, Insert + 5, Jaws reports black on black but, once sent received, if I invoke the, Insert + 5, keystroke on the open / received message black on white is reported. So, I'm not sure if what Jaws reports can be trusted or not. I'll have to get my wife other sighted people I know to keep an eye on my messages report back to me if any of them are not readable. Any input about changing background / foreground colors in IE or Windows Explorer would be appreciated. Thank you very much for your reply. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:25 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, From what I just found, it appears that you need to send your message in rich text HTML format in order to change the background color. While in an open message, choose the format menu, make sure that rich text format is checked and then open the background sub-menu, and then choose color from the 3 available options. No first letter navigation in the list of colors, so you will just have arrow to white, and then hit enter to check the box. I believe that the text color is determined by the O/S, and cannot be changed. Unless I don't understand what foreground and background colors that Jaws is reporting, I would say that it is reporting it incorrectly, which may be a bug in Jaws or some type of setting. It reports the same to me whether I am in a plain text or html message, and my background color is set to white for rich text format. I am running Jaws 15 latest build, Win 7. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: Jaws-Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 7:45 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi All, I'm running Win7, Outlook Express, J15. I noticed that background foreground colors in new messages are
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws firefox
Did this problem start when you updated to Firefox 30? Perhaps the problem is with the latest version of Firefox and not with JAWS. Gerald - Original Message - From: Robert Doc Wright godfea...@wrighthere.net To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 2:49 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws firefox For some reason when I open firefox lately I can't move on the page unless I tab. What would cause the virtual pc cursor to suddenly stop working when I'm on a web page? Although when I press jawskey+z it says virtual pc cursor off, which means it was already on but I cannot arrow anywhere on the page? The version of firefox I have is 300.0 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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hello Mike, In my message I meant to say insert with the number 5. The rest of the message still applies. I think the bottom line is that there is a problem with the JAWS application giving the correct foreground and background color and the incorrect RGB values. When I used the attributes with color scheme I did get better results but not always. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@hotmail.com On Jul 7, 2014, at 1:30 PM, Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net wrote: Hi Brian, Try the keystroke, Insert + 5, not, Insert + F5, see if that keystroke will report the colors correctly. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Brian Lee To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hello Mike, The insert F5 does not seem to be working correctly. I am not using Outlook Express but Outlook 2013 but this seems to be true in Word as well. If you hold down insert and press F5 twice you will hear 18 zeros. The first nine are for the RGB value for the foreground color and the second set of nine digits is for the RGB values of the background color. For a black character on a default white background the values should be nine zeros and nine digits with 255 as their value. However, if you change to the Attributes and Color scheme and use up arrow when you are on a top line of text you hear that the background is white even though insert with F5 says black on black. If you type some text and change it to the default white font color when you check the RGB values they might still indicate all black but if you select the white text and check the RGB values in the custom color box for font color the RGB is then given correctly for the white color. When using the Attributes and color scheme if I use CTRL with Home to move to the top of this message and then use up arrow key I am told that there is a white background. It does appear that the insert F5 is not working. Also with the Attributes and Color scheme if I read current line I am told there is a white background. Therefore, the reporting of nine zeros for the background white color is not right. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 10:26 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Howdy Rick, Yes, that's what I noticed here as well. Thank you very much for the verification. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, The same condition is true here. The version of Jaws 13 thru 15 doesn't make any difference. - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Good Morning Rick, These are my current settings. With a new message open while in the message edit field, I pressed, Alt + O, for the format menu. For style I have normal checked, Font is set on black, background is set for white, Incoding is Western European Windows, rich text HTML is checked. This is how my emails are all supposedly set. While typing this message I press, Insert + 5, Jaws reports black on black but, once sent received, if I invoke the, Insert + 5, keystroke on the open / received message black on white is reported. So, I'm not sure if what Jaws reports can be trusted or not. I'll have to get my wife other sighted people I know to keep an eye on my messages report back to me if any of them are not readable. Any input about changing background / foreground colors in IE or Windows Explorer would be appreciated. Thank you very much for your reply. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:25 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, From what I just found, it appears that you need to send your message in rich text HTML format in order to change the background color. While in an open message, choose the format menu, make sure that rich text format is checked and then open the background sub-menu, and then choose color from the 3 available options. No first letter navigation in the list of colors, so you will just have arrow to white, and then hit enter to check the box. I believe that the text color is determined by the O/S, and cannot be changed. Unless I don't
Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors
Hi T, This list is for learning purposes if someone is learning why should that bother you? You have a delete key. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: t. conley To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors aren't you folks getting carried away with this? -Original Message- From: Brian Lee Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 3:44 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hello Mike, The insert F5 does not seem to be working correctly. I am not using Outlook Express but Outlook 2013 but this seems to be true in Word as well. If you hold down insert and press F5 twice you will hear 18 zeros. The first nine are for the RGB value for the foreground color and the second set of nine digits is for the RGB values of the background color. For a black character on a default white background the values should be nine zeros and nine digits with 255 as their value. However, if you change to the Attributes and Color scheme and use up arrow when you are on a top line of text you hear that the background is white even though insert with F5 says black on black. If you type some text and change it to the default white font color when you check the RGB values they might still indicate all black but if you select the white text and check the RGB values in the custom color box for font color the RGB is then given correctly for the white color. When using the Attributes and color scheme if I use CTRL with Home to move to the top of this message and then use up arrow key I am told that there is a white background. It does appear that the insert F5 is not working. Also with the Attributes and Color scheme if I read current line I am told there is a white background. Therefore, the reporting of nine zeros for the background white color is not right. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 10:26 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Howdy Rick, Yes, that's what I noticed here as well. Thank you very much for the verification. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, The same condition is true here. The version of Jaws 13 thru 15 doesn't make any difference. - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Good Morning Rick, These are my current settings. With a new message open while in the message edit field, I pressed, Alt + O, for the format menu. For style I have normal checked, Font is set on black, background is set for white, Incoding is Western European Windows, rich text HTML is checked. This is how my emails are all supposedly set. While typing this message I press, Insert + 5, Jaws reports black on black but, once sent received, if I invoke the, Insert + 5, keystroke on the open / received message black on white is reported. So, I'm not sure if what Jaws reports can be trusted or not. I'll have to get my wife other sighted people I know to keep an eye on my messages report back to me if any of them are not readable. Any input about changing background / foreground colors in IE or Windows Explorer would be appreciated. Thank you very much for your reply. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:25 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, From what I just found, it appears that you need to send your message in rich text HTML format in order to change the background color. While in an open message, choose the format menu, make sure that rich text format is checked and then open the background sub-menu, and then choose color from the 3 available options. No first letter navigation in the list of colors, so you will just have arrow to white, and then hit enter to check the box. I believe that the text color is determined by the O/S, and cannot be changed. Unless I don't understand what foreground and background colors that Jaws is reporting, I would say that it is reporting it incorrectly, which may be a bug in Jaws or some type of setting. It reports the same to me whether I am in a plain text or html message, and my background color is set to white for rich text format. I am running Jaws 15 latest
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you're right, I guess I'm not as much in to this stuff as you -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 4:29 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi T, This list is for learning purposes if someone is learning why should that bother you? You have a delete key. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: t. conley To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors aren't you folks getting carried away with this? -Original Message- From: Brian Lee Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 3:44 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hello Mike, The insert F5 does not seem to be working correctly. I am not using Outlook Express but Outlook 2013 but this seems to be true in Word as well. If you hold down insert and press F5 twice you will hear 18 zeros. The first nine are for the RGB value for the foreground color and the second set of nine digits is for the RGB values of the background color. For a black character on a default white background the values should be nine zeros and nine digits with 255 as their value. However, if you change to the Attributes and Color scheme and use up arrow when you are on a top line of text you hear that the background is white even though insert with F5 says black on black. If you type some text and change it to the default white font color when you check the RGB values they might still indicate all black but if you select the white text and check the RGB values in the custom color box for font color the RGB is then given correctly for the white color. When using the Attributes and color scheme if I use CTRL with Home to move to the top of this message and then use up arrow key I am told that there is a white background. It does appear that the insert F5 is not working. Also with the Attributes and Color scheme if I read current line I am told there is a white background. Therefore, the reporting of nine zeros for the background white color is not right. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 10:26 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Howdy Rick, Yes, that's what I noticed here as well. Thank you very much for the verification. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, The same condition is true here. The version of Jaws 13 thru 15 doesn't make any difference. - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Good Morning Rick, These are my current settings. With a new message open while in the message edit field, I pressed, Alt + O, for the format menu. For style I have normal checked, Font is set on black, background is set for white, Incoding is Western European Windows, rich text HTML is checked. This is how my emails are all supposedly set. While typing this message I press, Insert + 5, Jaws reports black on black but, once sent received, if I invoke the, Insert + 5, keystroke on the open / received message black on white is reported. So, I'm not sure if what Jaws reports can be trusted or not. I'll have to get my wife other sighted people I know to keep an eye on my messages report back to me if any of them are not readable. Any input about changing background / foreground colors in IE or Windows Explorer would be appreciated. Thank you very much for your reply. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:25 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, From what I just found, it appears that you need to send your message in rich text HTML format in order to change the background color. While in an open message, choose the format menu, make sure that rich text format is checked and then open the background sub-menu, and then choose color from the 3 available options. No first letter navigation in the list of colors, so you will just have arrow to white, and then hit enter to check the box. I believe that the text color is determined by the O/S, and cannot be changed. Unless I don't understand what foreground and background colors that Jaws is reporting, I would say that it is reporting it
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I and my 2 partners decide this kind of thing thank you. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:29 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi T, This list is for learning purposes if someone is learning why should that bother you? You have a delete key. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: t. conley To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors aren't you folks getting carried away with this? -Original Message- From: Brian Lee Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 3:44 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hello Mike, The insert F5 does not seem to be working correctly. I am not using Outlook Express but Outlook 2013 but this seems to be true in Word as well. If you hold down insert and press F5 twice you will hear 18 zeros. The first nine are for the RGB value for the foreground color and the second set of nine digits is for the RGB values of the background color. For a black character on a default white background the values should be nine zeros and nine digits with 255 as their value. However, if you change to the Attributes and Color scheme and use up arrow when you are on a top line of text you hear that the background is white even though insert with F5 says black on black. If you type some text and change it to the default white font color when you check the RGB values they might still indicate all black but if you select the white text and check the RGB values in the custom color box for font color the RGB is then given correctly for the white color. When using the Attributes and color scheme if I use CTRL with Home to move to the top of this message and then use up arrow key I am told that there is a white background. It does appear that the insert F5 is not working. Also with the Attributes and Color scheme if I read current line I am told there is a white background. Therefore, the reporting of nine zeros for the background white color is not right. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 10:26 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Howdy Rick, Yes, that's what I noticed here as well. Thank you very much for the verification. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, The same condition is true here. The version of Jaws 13 thru 15 doesn't make any difference. - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Good Morning Rick, These are my current settings. With a new message open while in the message edit field, I pressed, Alt + O, for the format menu. For style I have normal checked, Font is set on black, background is set for white, Incoding is Western European Windows, rich text HTML is checked. This is how my emails are all supposedly set. While typing this message I press, Insert + 5, Jaws reports black on black but, once sent received, if I invoke the, Insert + 5, keystroke on the open / received message black on white is reported. So, I'm not sure if what Jaws reports can be trusted or not. I'll have to get my wife other sighted people I know to keep an eye on my messages report back to me if any of them are not readable. Any input about changing background / foreground colors in IE or Windows Explorer would be appreciated. Thank you very much for your reply. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:25 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, From what I just found, it appears that you need to send your message in rich text HTML format in order to change the background color. While in an open message, choose the format menu, make sure that rich text format is checked and then open the background sub-menu, and then choose color from the 3 available options. No first letter navigation in the list of colors, so you will just have arrow to white, and then hit enter to check the box. I believe that the text color is determined by the O/S,
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Hi T, I'm sorry if I sounded rude. This happened to be a problem for me when sending email to sighted people. They were getting blank message fields it turned out that colors for background foreground were set for black on black so, this thread helped me get the issue resolved. Again, my apologies. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: t. conley To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors you're right, I guess I'm not as much in to this stuff as you -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 4:29 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi T, This list is for learning purposes if someone is learning why should that bother you? You have a delete key. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: t. conley To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors aren't you folks getting carried away with this? -Original Message- From: Brian Lee Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 3:44 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hello Mike, The insert F5 does not seem to be working correctly. I am not using Outlook Express but Outlook 2013 but this seems to be true in Word as well. If you hold down insert and press F5 twice you will hear 18 zeros. The first nine are for the RGB value for the foreground color and the second set of nine digits is for the RGB values of the background color. For a black character on a default white background the values should be nine zeros and nine digits with 255 as their value. However, if you change to the Attributes and Color scheme and use up arrow when you are on a top line of text you hear that the background is white even though insert with F5 says black on black. If you type some text and change it to the default white font color when you check the RGB values they might still indicate all black but if you select the white text and check the RGB values in the custom color box for font color the RGB is then given correctly for the white color. When using the Attributes and color scheme if I use CTRL with Home to move to the top of this message and then use up arrow key I am told that there is a white background. It does appear that the insert F5 is not working. Also with the Attributes and Color scheme if I read current line I am told there is a white background. Therefore, the reporting of nine zeros for the background white color is not right. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 10:26 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Howdy Rick, Yes, that's what I noticed here as well. Thank you very much for the verification. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, The same condition is true here. The version of Jaws 13 thru 15 doesn't make any difference. - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Good Morning Rick, These are my current settings. With a new message open while in the message edit field, I pressed, Alt + O, for the format menu. For style I have normal checked, Font is set on black, background is set for white, Incoding is Western European Windows, rich text HTML is checked. This is how my emails are all supposedly set. While typing this message I press, Insert + 5, Jaws reports black on black but, once sent received, if I invoke the, Insert + 5, keystroke on the open / received message black on white is reported. So, I'm not sure if what Jaws reports can be trusted or not. I'll have to get my wife other sighted people I know to keep an eye on my messages report back to me if any of them are not readable. Any input about changing background / foreground colors in IE or Windows Explorer would be appreciated. Thank you very much for your reply. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:25 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, From what I just found, it appears that you need to send your message in rich text HTML format in order to change
Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors
Hi David, I understand I was wrong! Please accept my apologies. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors I and my 2 partners decide this kind of thing thank you. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:29 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi T, This list is for learning purposes if someone is learning why should that bother you? You have a delete key. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: t. conley To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors aren't you folks getting carried away with this? -Original Message- From: Brian Lee Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 3:44 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hello Mike, The insert F5 does not seem to be working correctly. I am not using Outlook Express but Outlook 2013 but this seems to be true in Word as well. If you hold down insert and press F5 twice you will hear 18 zeros. The first nine are for the RGB value for the foreground color and the second set of nine digits is for the RGB values of the background color. For a black character on a default white background the values should be nine zeros and nine digits with 255 as their value. However, if you change to the Attributes and Color scheme and use up arrow when you are on a top line of text you hear that the background is white even though insert with F5 says black on black. If you type some text and change it to the default white font color when you check the RGB values they might still indicate all black but if you select the white text and check the RGB values in the custom color box for font color the RGB is then given correctly for the white color. When using the Attributes and color scheme if I use CTRL with Home to move to the top of this message and then use up arrow key I am told that there is a white background. It does appear that the insert F5 is not working. Also with the Attributes and Color scheme if I read current line I am told there is a white background. Therefore, the reporting of nine zeros for the background white color is not right. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 10:26 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Howdy Rick, Yes, that's what I noticed here as well. Thank you very much for the verification. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, The same condition is true here. The version of Jaws 13 thru 15 doesn't make any difference. - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Good Morning Rick, These are my current settings. With a new message open while in the message edit field, I pressed, Alt + O, for the format menu. For style I have normal checked, Font is set on black, background is set for white, Incoding is Western European Windows, rich text HTML is checked. This is how my emails are all supposedly set. While typing this message I press, Insert + 5, Jaws reports black on black but, once sent received, if I invoke the, Insert + 5, keystroke on the open / received message black on white is reported. So, I'm not sure if what Jaws reports can be trusted or not. I'll have to get my wife other sighted people I know to keep an eye on my messages report back to me if any of them are not readable. Any input about changing background / foreground colors in IE or Windows Explorer would be appreciated. Thank you very much for your reply. Take Care. Mike This email was sent from my iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:25 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, From what I just found, it appears that you need to send your message in rich text HTML format in order to change the background color. While in an open message, choose the format menu, make sure that
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws firefox
Hi Robert, I just tried this with FF 29.0 to make sure it works with your problem as well. Following the steps also allow you to use the Jaws cursor if it's needed at some point: You can use the JAWS Cursor navigate with arrow keys in Firefox after turning off Firefox's hardware acceleration setting. 1. In Firefox, press ALT+T to open the Tools Menu and then choose Options. 2. From the Advanced options, choose the General tab. 3. Press TAB to move to the Use Hardware Acceleration when Available checkbox. Press the SPACEBAR to clear it, then press ENTER to close the dialog box. 4. Close reopen Firefox. HTH Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Robert Doc Wright To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 11:49 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws firefox For some reason when I open firefox lately I can't move on the page unless I tab. What would cause the virtual pc cursor to suddenly stop working when I'm on a web page? Although when I press jawskey+z it says virtual pc cursor off, which means it was already on but I cannot arrow anywhere on the page? The version of firefox I have is 300.0 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Firefox
I'm having a lot of weird things going on with FF30.0 also. To mention just one, the JAWS cursor can't see anything except various unlabeled graphics. Don't use FF that much so hope others will chime in. Cher -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:05 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws firefox Did this problem start when you updated to Firefox 30? Perhaps the problem is with the latest version of Firefox and not with JAWS. Gerald - Original Message - From: Robert Doc Wright godfea...@wrighthere.net To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 2:49 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws firefox For some reason when I open firefox lately I can't move on the page unless I tab. What would cause the virtual pc cursor to suddenly stop working when I'm on a web page? Although when I press jawskey+z it says virtual pc cursor off, which means it was already on but I cannot arrow anywhere on the page? The version of firefox I have is 300.0 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Firefox
Hi Cher, I don't use FF much at all either but, try the following see if it helps: 1. Open Firefox then open the Settings Center. 2. Arrow down to, Graphics Symbols, right arrow to open. 3. Arrow down to, Graphics Verboscity, press the spacebar until Jaws reports, Labeled. 4. Tab to, okay, press enter, to save your change close the Settings Center. HTH Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Don Cher To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Firefox I'm having a lot of weird things going on with FF30.0 also. To mention just one, the JAWS cursor can't see anything except various unlabeled graphics. Don't use FF that much so hope others will chime in. Cher -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:05 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws firefox Did this problem start when you updated to Firefox 30? Perhaps the problem is with the latest version of Firefox and not with JAWS. Gerald - Original Message - From: Robert Doc Wright godfea...@wrighthere.net To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 2:49 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws firefox For some reason when I open firefox lately I can't move on the page unless I tab. What would cause the virtual pc cursor to suddenly stop working when I'm on a web page? Although when I press jawskey+z it says virtual pc cursor off, which means it was already on but I cannot arrow anywhere on the page? The version of firefox I have is 300.0 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors
Forget it, if it drifts off topic or some other thing to cause me to grumble well that's one thing, nothing today has done that so let me go listen to my indoor football game and you folks carry on with whatever it is you're doing. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 6:25 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi David, I understand I was wrong! Please accept my apologies. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors I and my 2 partners decide this kind of thing thank you. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:29 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi T, This list is for learning purposes if someone is learning why should that bother you? You have a delete key. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: t. conley To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors aren't you folks getting carried away with this? -Original Message- From: Brian Lee Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 3:44 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hello Mike, The insert F5 does not seem to be working correctly. I am not using Outlook Express but Outlook 2013 but this seems to be true in Word as well. If you hold down insert and press F5 twice you will hear 18 zeros. The first nine are for the RGB value for the foreground color and the second set of nine digits is for the RGB values of the background color. For a black character on a default white background the values should be nine zeros and nine digits with 255 as their value. However, if you change to the Attributes and Color scheme and use up arrow when you are on a top line of text you hear that the background is white even though insert with F5 says black on black. If you type some text and change it to the default white font color when you check the RGB values they might still indicate all black but if you select the white text and check the RGB values in the custom color box for font color the RGB is then given correctly for the white color. When using the Attributes and color scheme if I use CTRL with Home to move to the top of this message and then use up arrow key I am told that there is a white background. It does appear that the insert F5 is not working. Also with the Attributes and Color scheme if I read current line I am told there is a white background. Therefore, the reporting of nine zeros for the background white color is not right. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 10:26 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Howdy Rick, Yes, that's what I noticed here as well. Thank you very much for the verification. Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Hi Mike, The same condition is true here. The version of Jaws 13 thru 15 doesn't make any difference. - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background Foreground colors Good Morning Rick, These are my current settings. With a new message open while in the message edit field, I pressed, Alt + O, for the format menu. For style I have normal checked, Font is set on black, background is set for white, Incoding is Western European Windows, rich text HTML is checked. This is how my emails are all supposedly set. While typing this message I press, Insert + 5, Jaws reports black on black but, once sent received, if I invoke the, Insert + 5, keystroke on the open / received message black on white is reported. So, I'm not sure if what Jaws reports can be trusted or not. I'll have to get my wife other sighted people I know to keep an eye on my messages report back to me if any of them are not
[JAWS-Users] Jaws and Windows 8.1
I just bought a laptop using Windows 8.1 and have J5(1) I have lookeda website and cant find anything as to any special settings that might make the OS easier to navigate. Also, in related matters, how do you read messages in Outlook which I assume is part of Office 365? Thanks very much. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Download links for JAWS V15 J15.0.10026- was - Re: fs download for v 5?
Amending the subject line for archival reference. :;) - Original Message - From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] fs download for v 5? Hi Marilyn, Try the following to find out if your system is 32 or 64 bit: below these steps are the download links for both 32 64 bit systems. 1. Press, WindowsKey + Pause, to open system properties. 2. Route the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor, Insert + Numpad minus / Jaws cursor key. 3. Press your page-up key to take the cursor to the top of the page. 4. Arrow down 1 line at a time. Jaws will report XP or Windows7 but, if it's Windows7 keep arrowing down to find out if it's 32 or 64 bit. If it's a 32 bit system you might hear something like X86. Another way to find out: 1. Press your Windows Key to open the start menu. 2. Go to Programs or All Programs press enter. 3. Press enter on Accessories arrow down to system tools press enter. 4. Arrow down to System Information, press enter, tab 1 time, you should hear what OS you are running. You can also arrow down this list to find out more information about your computer. Below are the direct download links for both the 32 64 bit versions of J15 latest, J15.0.10026: 32 Bit Systems: http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J15.0.10026ENU-32bit.exe 64 Bit Systems: http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J15.0.10026ENU-64bit.exe HTH Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. - Original Message - From: Marilyn Walker To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:09 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] fs download for v 5? What is the key stroke to determine whether I have 32 or 64 bit system and key stroke for downloading v 15. Hanks. Marilyn For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Windows 8.1
Lynn, I am afraid that there are no great shortcuts to make Windows 8.1 easier to navigate. What you can do is set it up to boot directly to the desktop like the older versions of Windows did. Here are the steps for doing this: -Open Control Panel either bvia the start screen or by pressing the Windows logo key and pressing the letter X to open the Power Users menu, then scrolling down to Control panel and press enter. -In Control Panel, find either Appearance and Personalization, or Taskbar and Navigation. The one that you find will depend on how you have Control Panel configured. -If you find Appearance and Personalization, open it and click on Taskbar and Navigation, - If you find Taskbar and Navigation, click on that, and then on the Navigation tab inside of this. - Now, check the box that says When I log in or close all open apps, go to the desktop instead of the start screen. - Next, tab down and press enter on the OK button. From now on, when you sign in to Windows or close all open apps, the desktop will appear instead of the start screen. Another thing that you can do is to install an app that puts the start menue back into Windows. Some examples of this are: Classic Shell (www.classicshell.com), Start is Back (www.startisback.com) , or Start 8 (, from (www.stardock.com). I hope these tips help you out, but it would be good if you still tried to get used to the Windows 8.1 interface, because things are probably not going to return to where they were before. Best, Mike -Original Message- From: Lynn White Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 4:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Windows 8.1 I just bought a laptop using Windows 8.1 and have J5(1) I have lookeda website and cant find anything as to any special settings that might make the OS easier to navigate. Also, in related matters, how do you read messages in Outlook which I assume is part of Office 365? Thanks very much. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Getting started with Outlook 2010
Hi All, At work we just switched to Outlook 2010. I know there has been discussion on the list about various features of Outlook, but I didn't follow any of it because I wasn't using Outlook. Now I need to learn quickly. I read the info Jaws 14 contains, which seems pretty extensive. My questions - 1. Are there other sources I should go to for help getting started with Outlook? and 2. Does it make a difference whether I use Jaws 14 or 15? I have both but generally use 14. If 15 works better with Outlook, I'm happy to switch. Thanks for any thoughts and information, Shari For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws firefox
Hi, I've had that problem occasionally. I am glad tabbing works. Thanks Lauren Blessings in Jesus' Name. GOD said, If you will not feel pain, how would you know I'M A HEALER?If you will not feel sadness, how would you know I'M A COMFORTER? If you will not feel like your in the darkness, how would you know I'M YOUR LIGHT? Child, if life is perfect, would you still know me?-author unknown Advice from my cats:Meow when you feel like it. My book:there's more than one way to be okay: www.Theresmorethanoneway.com -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 11:49 AM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws firefox For some reason when I open firefox lately I can't move on the page unless I tab. What would cause the virtual pc cursor to suddenly stop working when I'm on a web page? Although when I press jawskey+z it says virtual pc cursor off, which means it was already on but I cannot arrow anywhere on the page? The version of firefox I have is 300.0 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
