Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com and screen readers

2018-01-20 Thread Lenny McHugh

I did not call them about the site. I had some questions about a product.

-Original Message- 
From: rosecomb...@cox.net

Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 12:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com and screen readers

If I actually have to call Amazon it isn't accessible.  I feel that way
about any website, if I actually have to call them something is definitely
wrong with the site.  I have never called Amazon for anything in the past at
least 8 years.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 12:17 PM
To: JFW List <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com and screen readers

I found this to be quite interesting and helpful. The Amazon web site
detects if you are using jaws, probably other screen readers as well. Anyway
when it detects jaws a screen overlay is also displayed giving phone number
contact information for people with disabilities.
The other day I needed to call and asked Karen to bring up the page on her I
pad. She told me that there is no such number. I came upstairs and there it
was. She since did a search and learned that it detects screen readers.
What great customer service.

---

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com and screen readers

2018-01-20 Thread Tom Fairhurst
Unfortunately, I have. I have written many E-mails and made calls about 
their Amazon Cloud Player and difficulties in downloading purchased music. 
As a result, I refuse to purchase digital music from them. I don't know if 
any improvements have been made recently or not, but having a phone number 
in reach is an improvement. I have explored web sites too numerous to 
mention in which contact information is extremely hard to find or to act 
upon. I will note that I have ordered other things on Amazon and Kindle 
successfully. I ordered an item I couldn't use, and they were very helpful 
with the return.


-Original Message- 
From: rosecomb...@cox.net

Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 11:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com and screen readers

If I actually have to call Amazon it isn't accessible.  I feel that way
about any website, if I actually have to call them something is definitely
wrong with the site.  I have never called Amazon for anything in the past at
least 8 years.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 12:17 PM
To: JFW List <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com and screen readers

I found this to be quite interesting and helpful. The Amazon web site
detects if you are using jaws, probably other screen readers as well. Anyway
when it detects jaws a screen overlay is also displayed giving phone number
contact information for people with disabilities.
The other day I needed to call and asked Karen to bring up the page on her I
pad. She told me that there is no such number. I came upstairs and there it
was. She since did a search and learned that it detects screen readers.
What great customer service.

---

Please visit my web page

It's motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor

There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind

http://www.LennyMcHugh.com

International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to
frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com and screen readers

2018-01-20 Thread Jim Fettgather

Here's why I had found that Amazon phone number to be helpful.
For several weeks I had been attempting to purchase a single edition of a 
newspaper  from the site.
The radio buttons were such that they would trigger prematurely, causing me 
to purchase the incorrect edition.
For three weeks, I called that number, requested a refund for having 
purchased the wrong newspaper, explained the problem as best I could, and 
politely suggested, please please, this problem must be fixed.

It was fixed after my repeated phone calls.
Whenever accessibility is broken, This is not an ideal situation, but at 
least they eventually fixed the problem with purchasing single edition 
newspapers.




-Original Message- 
From: rosecomb...@cox.net

Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 11:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com and screen readers

If I actually have to call Amazon it isn't accessible.  I feel that way
about any website, if I actually have to call them something is definitely
wrong with the site.  I have never called Amazon for anything in the past at
least 8 years.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 12:17 PM
To: JFW List <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com and screen readers

I found this to be quite interesting and helpful. The Amazon web site
detects if you are using jaws, probably other screen readers as well. Anyway
when it detects jaws a screen overlay is also displayed giving phone number
contact information for people with disabilities.
The other day I needed to call and asked Karen to bring up the page on her I
pad. She told me that there is no such number. I came upstairs and there it
was. She since did a search and learned that it detects screen readers.
What great customer service.

---

Please visit my web page

It's motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor

There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind

http://www.LennyMcHugh.com

International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to
frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com and screen readers

2018-01-20 Thread rosecombs52
If I actually have to call Amazon it isn't accessible.  I feel that way
about any website, if I actually have to call them something is definitely
wrong with the site.  I have never called Amazon for anything in the past at
least 8 years.  


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 12:17 PM
To: JFW List <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com and screen readers

I found this to be quite interesting and helpful. The Amazon web site
detects if you are using jaws, probably other screen readers as well. Anyway
when it detects jaws a screen overlay is also displayed giving phone number
contact information for people with disabilities.
The other day I needed to call and asked Karen to bring up the page on her I
pad. She told me that there is no such number. I came upstairs and there it
was. She since did a search and learned that it detects screen readers.
What great customer service.

---

Please visit my web page

It's motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor

There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind

http://www.LennyMcHugh.com

International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to
frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


[JAWS-Users] Amazon.com and screen readers

2018-01-19 Thread Lenny McHugh
I found this to be quite interesting and helpful. The Amazon web site 
detects if you are using jaws, probably other screen readers as well. Anyway 
when it detects jaws a screen overlay is also displayed giving phone number 
contact information for people with disabilities.
The other day I needed to call and asked Karen to bring up the page on her I 
pad. She told me that there is no such number. I came upstairs and there it 
was. She since did a search and learned that it detects screen readers.
What great customer service.

---

Please visit my web page

It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor

There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind

http://www.LennyMcHugh.com

International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2017-01-09 Thread REGilman

Sorry, He will not see this.  He unsubscribed earlier today. 
Thanks,
Bob
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 2:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Gene,

Be specific.  I am a frequent shopper at Amazon, and most of their site is
quite accessible.

You need to learn how to get around the clutter; but it works for the most
part quite well.

Since you weren't specific, I wll just put out some general tips:

1.  Use navigation shortcuts.  In some, but not all listings, the price is
listed in a table.  In some instances, many times with third-party sellers,
it may not be.  In that case either look for a quantity combobox and you
will see the price in that area or do a search for the Dollar-sign aassuming
you are in the states.

2.  I don't use the "accessible site" for some philosophical and logistical
reasons, such as not having a complete description without entering on
another link.  I have noticed, when you want to write a review or leave
seller feedback, with Jaws, IE 11 cuts off and does not display the relevant
frame.  So, you need to use Firefox to do this task.

3.  When you make a purchase, there are buttons und3er shipping options and
payment options where you can change the shipping address, separate
different products to be shipped to different addresses, and choose a
different payment method respectively.

In all, you need a bit of patience, but the site itself is  highly
accessible.

Steve
Lansing, MI

- Original Message -
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarn...@gmail.com>
To: "JAWS Users" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:28 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com


> Hi everyone!
>
> Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented with 
> accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their 
> supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same 
> accessibility challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.
>
> I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other tools 
> that make amazon.com more accessible.
>
> I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and 
> always get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of 
> their site seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.
>
> Cheers!
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2017-01-09 Thread Steve

Gene,

Be specific.  I am a frequent shopper at Amazon, and most of their site is 
quite accessible.


You need to learn how to get around the clutter; but it works for the most 
part quite well.


Since you weren't specific, I wll just put out some general tips:

1.  Use navigation shortcuts.  In some, but not all listings, the price is 
listed in a table.  In some instances, many times with third-party sellers, 
it may not be.  In that case either look for a quantity combobox and you 
will see the price in that area or do a search for the Dollar-sign aassuming 
you are in the states.


2.  I don't use the "accessible site" for some philosophical and logistical 
reasons, such as not having a complete description without entering on 
another link.  I have noticed, when you want to write a review or leave 
seller feedback, with Jaws, IE 11 cuts off and does not display the relevant 
frame.  So, you need to use Firefox to do this task.


3.  When you make a purchase, there are buttons und3er shipping options and 
payment options where you can change the shipping address, separate 
different products to be shipped to different addresses, and choose a 
different payment method respectively.


In all, you need a bit of patience, but the site itself is  highly 
accessible.


Steve
Lansing, MI

- Original Message - 
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarn...@gmail.com>

To: "JAWS Users" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:28 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com



Hi everyone!

Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented with 
accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their 
supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same 
accessibility challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.


I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other tools 
that make amazon.com more accessible.


I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and 
always get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of 
their site seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.


Cheers!

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2017-01-09 Thread Sharon Gosling
I shop on the Amazon site quite a bit and generally have no trouble even 
though I use Firefox instead of IE since the security is better according to 
computer experts. But I  have found that the Amazon app on my iPhone is 
extremely accessible and seems to sync with my cart on the computer.  I find 
it easier to reorder items using the order list on the phone since it is a 
continuous list instead of having items grouped into the separate orders. If 
I actually place the order on the phone it uses the fingerprint to sign in 
which is handy.

Sherrie Gosling

Sherrie Gosling


-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 9:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Gene, I'm sincerely sorry for bringing this about. We are strangers 
communicating via impersonal, easily misconstrued email. I have two 
concerns. One is that we all gain simple access to all websites, a distant 
goal. The other is to reward websites that make accessibility a priority. 
After the recent 60 Minutes episode attacking lawyers who randomly file 
lawsuits against websites, hotels and other institutions for alleged 
violations of the American with Disabilities Act, along with a movement in 
Congress to cut back on private ADA-related lawsuits,  I feel it is even 
more incumbent on us to show appreciation for a company's accessibility 
efforts. Whether or not you agree, and knowing your particular frustration 
with the Amazon website, this is what motivated my posts in this thread.


All of us on this list have different experiences and different levels of 
comfort with online activity. Despite my misgivings about separate 
accessible websites, I understand why many screenreader users gravitate to 
them. Watching family and friends as they grow into senior citizens, I also 
assume that one day I will be equally baffled by ever-changing technology. I 
find it hard enough as it is.


I would still urge you to limit your approach to any website owner to 
specific problems you have. That's all I mean to say.


Let me add that I appreciate your numerous recent contributions to this 
list, as I can tell others do as well.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Gene Warner

Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 8:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

So because you aren't having any problems, that I am and that I've gone so 
far as to do a complete reinstall of Windows and JAWS which doesn't resolve 
the problem to avoid upsetting your perfect little world I should just shut 
up and suffer?


Thank you for that useful and considerate piece of advice!



On 1/8/2017 10:24 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
I don't understand how this responds to what I and others wrote. Like you, 
I use IE. Also, as I said, I don't use their accessibility page exactly 
for the reason you indicate: that such pages risk segregating visually 
impaired people. Often in such cases, information is inadvertently 
excluded that is available on the company's regular website.


The fact is that Amazon's website is unusually accessible. Rather than 
write off an entire website as inaccessible when you may be having 
problems but other screenreader users aren't, contact Amazon and specify 
the exact problem. When I've done so with Amazon, I usually notice a fix 
in the days and weeks to come. I wish all webmasters were as responsive. 
We owe such companies respect.


I've never had to use Amazon's return page, so it may be something for 
Amazon to look into. If no one else on this list has a suggestion for you, 
go ahead and alert them. But if you attack them on the grounds that their 
website is generally inaccessible, you're doing both Amazon and many 
screenreader users an injustice.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 9:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

First of all, I use Internet Explorer, I tried firefox once, but found 
that it introduced its own problems, so I went back to IE.


One common problem is buttons with no meaningful labels, just "button"
or "submit query". When there's only one it's not much of a problem, but 
when you get three buttons next to each other all with the same useless 
label.


Today I had to return an item, I was able to get to the returns page, but 
could not check the check box for the item I was returning, nor could I 
get the drop down list of reasons for my return to work. In the end I had 
to call their customer service and get their help to submit the return 
request. This wasn't the first time I had to do this either, the first was 
several months ago and the problem persists, as does the unlabeled buttons 
problem which is well over a year old.


Honestly, I would think that it wou

Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2017-01-09 Thread Adrian Spratt
Gene, I'm sincerely sorry for bringing this about. We are strangers 
communicating via impersonal, easily misconstrued email. I have two concerns. 
One is that we all gain simple access to all websites, a distant goal. The 
other is to reward websites that make accessibility a priority. After the 
recent 60 Minutes episode attacking lawyers who randomly file lawsuits against 
websites, hotels and other institutions for alleged violations of the American 
with Disabilities Act, along with a movement in Congress to cut back on private 
ADA-related lawsuits,  I feel it is even more incumbent on us to show 
appreciation for a company's accessibility efforts. Whether or not you agree, 
and knowing your particular frustration with the Amazon website, this is what 
motivated my posts in this thread. 

All of us on this list have different experiences and different levels of 
comfort with online activity. Despite my misgivings about separate accessible 
websites, I understand why many screenreader users gravitate to them. Watching 
family and friends as they grow into senior citizens, I also assume that one 
day I will be equally baffled by ever-changing technology. I find it hard 
enough as it is.

I would still urge you to limit your approach to any website owner to specific 
problems you have. That's all I mean to say.

Let me add that I appreciate your numerous recent contributions to this list, 
as I can tell others do as well.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 8:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

So because you aren't having any problems, that I am and that I've gone so far 
as to do a complete reinstall of Windows and JAWS which doesn't resolve the 
problem to avoid upsetting your perfect little world I should just shut up and 
suffer?

Thank you for that useful and considerate piece of advice!



On 1/8/2017 10:24 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
> I don't understand how this responds to what I and others wrote. Like you, I 
> use IE. Also, as I said, I don't use their accessibility page exactly for the 
> reason you indicate: that such pages risk segregating visually impaired 
> people. Often in such cases, information is inadvertently excluded that is 
> available on the company's regular website.
>
> The fact is that Amazon's website is unusually accessible. Rather than write 
> off an entire website as inaccessible when you may be having problems but 
> other screenreader users aren't, contact Amazon and specify the exact 
> problem. When I've done so with Amazon, I usually notice a fix in the days 
> and weeks to come. I wish all webmasters were as responsive. We owe such 
> companies respect.
>
> I've never had to use Amazon's return page, so it may be something for Amazon 
> to look into. If no one else on this list has a suggestion for you, go ahead 
> and alert them. But if you attack them on the grounds that their website is 
> generally inaccessible, you're doing both Amazon and many screenreader users 
> an injustice.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 9:19 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com
>
> First of all, I use Internet Explorer, I tried firefox once, but found that 
> it introduced its own problems, so I went back to IE.
>
> One common problem is buttons with no meaningful labels, just "button"
> or "submit query". When there's only one it's not much of a problem, but when 
> you get three buttons next to each other all with the same useless label.
>
> Today I had to return an item, I was able to get to the returns page, but 
> could not check the check box for the item I was returning, nor could I get 
> the drop down list of reasons for my return to work. In the end I had to call 
> their customer service and get their help to submit the return request. This 
> wasn't the first time I had to do this either, the first was several months 
> ago and the problem persists, as does the unlabeled buttons problem which is 
> well over a year old.
>
> Honestly, I would think that it would be more efficient to use best practices 
> for accessibility on their main site rather than to try to segregate screen 
> reader user to an equally flawed and less functional site. It rather reminds 
> me of how African Americans were treated in the early sixties and before, 
> separate and unequal.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
>
> On 1/8/2017 7:17 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
>> I want to explain. First, I don't use Amazon's accessible page. I agree with 
>> you on that. I also realize the regular Amazon page is 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2017-01-09 Thread Gene Warner
So because you aren't having any problems, that I am and that I've gone 
so far as to do a complete reinstall of Windows and JAWS which doesn't 
resolve the problem to avoid upsetting your perfect little world I 
should just shut up and suffer?


Thank you for that useful and considerate piece of advice!



On 1/8/2017 10:24 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

I don't understand how this responds to what I and others wrote. Like you, I 
use IE. Also, as I said, I don't use their accessibility page exactly for the 
reason you indicate: that such pages risk segregating visually impaired people. 
Often in such cases, information is inadvertently excluded that is available on 
the company's regular website.

The fact is that Amazon's website is unusually accessible. Rather than write 
off an entire website as inaccessible when you may be having problems but other 
screenreader users aren't, contact Amazon and specify the exact problem. When 
I've done so with Amazon, I usually notice a fix in the days and weeks to come. 
I wish all webmasters were as responsive. We owe such companies respect.

I've never had to use Amazon's return page, so it may be something for Amazon 
to look into. If no one else on this list has a suggestion for you, go ahead 
and alert them. But if you attack them on the grounds that their website is 
generally inaccessible, you're doing both Amazon and many screenreader users an 
injustice.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 9:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

First of all, I use Internet Explorer, I tried firefox once, but found that it 
introduced its own problems, so I went back to IE.

One common problem is buttons with no meaningful labels, just "button"
or "submit query". When there's only one it's not much of a problem, but when 
you get three buttons next to each other all with the same useless label.

Today I had to return an item, I was able to get to the returns page, but could 
not check the check box for the item I was returning, nor could I get the drop 
down list of reasons for my return to work. In the end I had to call their 
customer service and get their help to submit the return request. This wasn't 
the first time I had to do this either, the first was several months ago and 
the problem persists, as does the unlabeled buttons problem which is well over 
a year old.

Honestly, I would think that it would be more efficient to use best practices 
for accessibility on their main site rather than to try to segregate screen 
reader user to an equally flawed and less functional site. It rather reminds me 
of how African Americans were treated in the early sixties and before, separate 
and unequal.

Cheers!



On 1/8/2017 7:17 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

I want to explain. First, I don't use Amazon's accessible page. I agree with 
you on that. I also realize the regular Amazon page is dense, which is because 
it's packed with information. But navigating by h for heading and b for button 
gets me to all the areas I usually want.

I used to have difficulty when a page offered periodic shipments, as opposed to 
a one-time purchase. However, Amazon seems to have fixed it. I brought it to 
their attention many months ago, and I'm sure others did, too. It isn't the 
only problem I've alerted them to that they've addressed.

So, where are you finding problems?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Amazon is exceptionally accessible. What specific problems do you experience?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:29 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Hi everyone!

Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented with 
accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their 
supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same accessibility 
challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.

I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other tools that 
make amazon.com more accessible.

I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and always 
get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of their site 
seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.

Cheers!

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For answers to frequently a

Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2017-01-09 Thread Gene Warner
I don't have it, I usually have them call me. But I'm that if there is 
one, you could search google for it.




On 1/8/2017 9:36 PM, dooi...@frontier.com wrote:

Hi Gene,
Polease provide Amazon's Customer Service phone number.
Thank you,
DJM



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 18:19
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

First of all, I use Internet Explorer, I tried firefox once, but found that
it introduced its own problems, so I went back to IE.

One common problem is buttons with no meaningful labels, just "button"
or "submit query". When there's only one it's not much of a problem, but
when you get three buttons next to each other all with the same useless
label.

Today I had to return an item, I was able to get to the returns page, but
could not check the check box for the item I was returning, nor could I get
the drop down list of reasons for my return to work. In the end I had to
call their customer service and get their help to submit the return request.
This wasn't the first time I had to do this either, the first was several
months ago and the problem persists, as does the unlabeled buttons problem
which is well over a year old.

Honestly, I would think that it would be more efficient to use best
practices for accessibility on their main site rather than to try to
segregate screen reader user to an equally flawed and less functional site.
It rather reminds me of how African Americans were treated in the early
sixties and before, separate and unequal.

Cheers!



On 1/8/2017 7:17 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

I want to explain. First, I don't use Amazon's accessible page. I agree

with you on that. I also realize the regular Amazon page is dense, which is
because it's packed with information. But navigating by h for heading and b
for button gets me to all the areas I usually want.


I used to have difficulty when a page offered periodic shipments, as

opposed to a one-time purchase. However, Amazon seems to have fixed it. I
brought it to their attention many months ago, and I'm sure others did, too.
It isn't the only problem I've alerted them to that they've addressed.


So, where are you finding problems?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Amazon is exceptionally accessible. What specific problems do you

experience?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:29 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Hi everyone!

Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented with

accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their
supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same accessibility
challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.


I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other tools

that make amazon.com more accessible.


I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and

always get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of their
site seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.


Cheers!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2017-01-08 Thread Dave
I've used the Amazon returns page, and as usual, don't find any problems 
with the controls, etc. Given that there are so many iterations of JAWS 
version, operating systems, video card/drivers, IE versions, and user 
settings, it's no wonder that we users often have drastically different 
experiences with the same web site.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 19:24
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com


I don't understand how this responds to what I and others wrote. Like you, I 
use IE. Also, as I said, I don't use their accessibility page exactly for 
the reason you indicate: that such pages risk segregating visually impaired 
people. Often in such cases, information is inadvertently excluded that is 
available on the company's regular website.

The fact is that Amazon's website is unusually accessible. Rather than write 
off an entire website as inaccessible when you may be having problems but 
other screenreader users aren't, contact Amazon and specify the exact 
problem. When I've done so with Amazon, I usually notice a fix in the days 
and weeks to come. I wish all webmasters were as responsive. We owe such 
companies respect.

I've never had to use Amazon's return page, so it may be something for 
Amazon to look into. If no one else on this list has a suggestion for you, 
go ahead and alert them. But if you attack them on the grounds that their 
website is generally inaccessible, you're doing both Amazon and many 
screenreader users an injustice.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 9:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

First of all, I use Internet Explorer, I tried firefox once, but found that 
it introduced its own problems, so I went back to IE.

One common problem is buttons with no meaningful labels, just "button"
or "submit query". When there's only one it's not much of a problem, but 
when you get three buttons next to each other all with the same useless 
label.

Today I had to return an item, I was able to get to the returns page, but 
could not check the check box for the item I was returning, nor could I get 
the drop down list of reasons for my return to work. In the end I had to 
call their customer service and get their help to submit the return request. 
This wasn't the first time I had to do this either, the first was several 
months ago and the problem persists, as does the unlabeled buttons problem 
which is well over a year old.

Honestly, I would think that it would be more efficient to use best 
practices for accessibility on their main site rather than to try to 
segregate screen reader user to an equally flawed and less functional site. 
It rather reminds me of how African Americans were treated in the early 
sixties and before, separate and unequal.

Cheers!



On 1/8/2017 7:17 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
> I want to explain. First, I don't use Amazon's accessible page. I agree 
> with you on that. I also realize the regular Amazon page is dense, which 
> is because it's packed with information. But navigating by h for heading 
> and b for button gets me to all the areas I usually want.
>
> I used to have difficulty when a page offered periodic shipments, as 
> opposed to a one-time purchase. However, Amazon seems to have fixed it. I 
> brought it to their attention many months ago, and I'm sure others did, 
> too. It isn't the only problem I've alerted them to that they've 
> addressed.
>
> So, where are you finding problems?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:49 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com
>
> Amazon is exceptionally accessible. What specific problems do you 
> experience?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:29 PM
> To: JAWS Users
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented with 
> accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their 
> supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same 
> accessibility challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.
>
> I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other tools 
> that make amazon.com more accessible.
>
> I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and 
> always get some boiler

Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2017-01-08 Thread Dave
Gene,

I hope I never have your experience with Amazon.com. For whatever reason, I 
find the standard site completely accessible, and don't plan to use any 
other version. I'm using IE11 and don't have your experience with unlabeled 
buttons. Don't know what to suggest, but hope you can ultimately find a 
solution.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarn...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 18:23
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com


I beg your pardon, I fervently hope they wise up and make their site
truly accessible to all, not just a fortunate few.



On 1/8/2017 8:07 PM, Dave wrote:
> Yes, let's hope that Amazon never changes their user interface. It's a 
> very
> nice one for using JAWS. And I also do not use their accessible page -- I
> use the mainstream page.
>
> Dave
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 16:17
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com
>
>
> I want to explain. First, I don't use Amazon's accessible page. I agree 
> with
> you on that. I also realize the regular Amazon page is dense, which is
> because it's packed with information. But navigating by h for heading and 
> b
> for button gets me to all the areas I usually want.
>
> I used to have difficulty when a page offered periodic shipments, as 
> opposed
> to a one-time purchase. However, Amazon seems to have fixed it. I brought 
> it
> to their attention many months ago, and I'm sure others did, too. It isn't
> the only problem I've alerted them to that they've addressed.
>
> So, where are you finding problems?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:49 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com
>
> Amazon is exceptionally accessible. What specific problems do you
> experience?
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Gene Warner
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:29 PM
> To: JAWS Users
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented with
> accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their
> supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same 
> accessibility
> challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.
>
> I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other tools
> that make amazon.com more accessible.
>
> I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and
> always get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of 
> their
> site seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.
>
> Cheers!
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2017-01-08 Thread Dave
...Judywell because I don't like the accessible page, personally. Each 
to their own.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Judy" <bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 18:15
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com


Why don't some of you use the accessible page? I find it a whole lot easier
when checking out and when going through the list of things I've searched
for rather than the regular page.  Judy & Libby



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 8:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Yes, let's hope that Amazon never changes their user interface. It's a very
nice one for using JAWS. And I also do not use their accessible page -- I
use the mainstream page.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 16:17
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com


I want to explain. First, I don't use Amazon's accessible page. I agree with

you on that. I also realize the regular Amazon page is dense, which is
because it's packed with information. But navigating by h for heading and b
for button gets me to all the areas I usually want.

I used to have difficulty when a page offered periodic shipments, as opposed

to a one-time purchase. However, Amazon seems to have fixed it. I brought it

to their attention many months ago, and I'm sure others did, too. It isn't
the only problem I've alerted them to that they've addressed.

So, where are you finding problems?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Amazon is exceptionally accessible. What specific problems do you
experience?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:29 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Hi everyone!

Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented with
accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their
supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same accessibility
challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.

I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other tools
that make amazon.com more accessible.

I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and
always get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of their
site seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.

Cheers!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2017-01-08 Thread Adrian Spratt
Here's Amazon's customer service phone number: 866-216-1072.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of dooi...@frontier.com
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 9:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Hi Gene,
Polease provide Amazon's Customer Service phone number.
Thank you,
DJM



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 18:19
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

First of all, I use Internet Explorer, I tried firefox once, but found that it 
introduced its own problems, so I went back to IE.

One common problem is buttons with no meaningful labels, just "button" 
or "submit query". When there's only one it's not much of a problem, but when 
you get three buttons next to each other all with the same useless label.

Today I had to return an item, I was able to get to the returns page, but could 
not check the check box for the item I was returning, nor could I get the drop 
down list of reasons for my return to work. In the end I had to call their 
customer service and get their help to submit the return request.
This wasn't the first time I had to do this either, the first was several 
months ago and the problem persists, as does the unlabeled buttons problem 
which is well over a year old.

Honestly, I would think that it would be more efficient to use best practices 
for accessibility on their main site rather than to try to segregate screen 
reader user to an equally flawed and less functional site.
It rather reminds me of how African Americans were treated in the early sixties 
and before, separate and unequal.

Cheers!



On 1/8/2017 7:17 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
> I want to explain. First, I don't use Amazon's accessible page. I 
> agree
with you on that. I also realize the regular Amazon page is dense, which is 
because it's packed with information. But navigating by h for heading and b for 
button gets me to all the areas I usually want.
>
> I used to have difficulty when a page offered periodic shipments, as
opposed to a one-time purchase. However, Amazon seems to have fixed it. I 
brought it to their attention many months ago, and I'm sure others did, too.
It isn't the only problem I've alerted them to that they've addressed.
>
> So, where are you finding problems?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:49 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com
>
> Amazon is exceptionally accessible. What specific problems do you
experience?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:29 PM
> To: JAWS Users
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented 
> with
accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their 
supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same accessibility 
challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.
>
> I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other 
> tools
that make amazon.com more accessible.
>
> I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and
always get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of their 
site seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.
>
> Cheers!
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2017-01-08 Thread Adrian Spratt
I don't understand how this responds to what I and others wrote. Like you, I 
use IE. Also, as I said, I don't use their accessibility page exactly for the 
reason you indicate: that such pages risk segregating visually impaired people. 
Often in such cases, information is inadvertently excluded that is available on 
the company's regular website. 

The fact is that Amazon's website is unusually accessible. Rather than write 
off an entire website as inaccessible when you may be having problems but other 
screenreader users aren't, contact Amazon and specify the exact problem. When 
I've done so with Amazon, I usually notice a fix in the days and weeks to come. 
I wish all webmasters were as responsive. We owe such companies respect.

I've never had to use Amazon's return page, so it may be something for Amazon 
to look into. If no one else on this list has a suggestion for you, go ahead 
and alert them. But if you attack them on the grounds that their website is 
generally inaccessible, you're doing both Amazon and many screenreader users an 
injustice.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 9:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

First of all, I use Internet Explorer, I tried firefox once, but found that it 
introduced its own problems, so I went back to IE.

One common problem is buttons with no meaningful labels, just "button" 
or "submit query". When there's only one it's not much of a problem, but when 
you get three buttons next to each other all with the same useless label.

Today I had to return an item, I was able to get to the returns page, but could 
not check the check box for the item I was returning, nor could I get the drop 
down list of reasons for my return to work. In the end I had to call their 
customer service and get their help to submit the return request. This wasn't 
the first time I had to do this either, the first was several months ago and 
the problem persists, as does the unlabeled buttons problem which is well over 
a year old.

Honestly, I would think that it would be more efficient to use best practices 
for accessibility on their main site rather than to try to segregate screen 
reader user to an equally flawed and less functional site. It rather reminds me 
of how African Americans were treated in the early sixties and before, separate 
and unequal.

Cheers!



On 1/8/2017 7:17 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
> I want to explain. First, I don't use Amazon's accessible page. I agree with 
> you on that. I also realize the regular Amazon page is dense, which is 
> because it's packed with information. But navigating by h for heading and b 
> for button gets me to all the areas I usually want.
>
> I used to have difficulty when a page offered periodic shipments, as opposed 
> to a one-time purchase. However, Amazon seems to have fixed it. I brought it 
> to their attention many months ago, and I'm sure others did, too. It isn't 
> the only problem I've alerted them to that they've addressed.
>
> So, where are you finding problems?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:49 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com
>
> Amazon is exceptionally accessible. What specific problems do you experience?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:29 PM
> To: JAWS Users
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented with 
> accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their 
> supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same accessibility 
> challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.
>
> I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other tools 
> that make amazon.com more accessible.
>
> I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and always 
> get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of their site 
> seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.
>
> Cheers!
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2017-01-08 Thread dooie13
Hi Gene,
Polease provide Amazon's Customer Service phone number.
Thank you,
DJM



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 18:19
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

First of all, I use Internet Explorer, I tried firefox once, but found that
it introduced its own problems, so I went back to IE.

One common problem is buttons with no meaningful labels, just "button" 
or "submit query". When there's only one it's not much of a problem, but
when you get three buttons next to each other all with the same useless
label.

Today I had to return an item, I was able to get to the returns page, but
could not check the check box for the item I was returning, nor could I get
the drop down list of reasons for my return to work. In the end I had to
call their customer service and get their help to submit the return request.
This wasn't the first time I had to do this either, the first was several
months ago and the problem persists, as does the unlabeled buttons problem
which is well over a year old.

Honestly, I would think that it would be more efficient to use best
practices for accessibility on their main site rather than to try to
segregate screen reader user to an equally flawed and less functional site.
It rather reminds me of how African Americans were treated in the early
sixties and before, separate and unequal.

Cheers!



On 1/8/2017 7:17 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
> I want to explain. First, I don't use Amazon's accessible page. I agree
with you on that. I also realize the regular Amazon page is dense, which is
because it's packed with information. But navigating by h for heading and b
for button gets me to all the areas I usually want.
>
> I used to have difficulty when a page offered periodic shipments, as
opposed to a one-time purchase. However, Amazon seems to have fixed it. I
brought it to their attention many months ago, and I'm sure others did, too.
It isn't the only problem I've alerted them to that they've addressed.
>
> So, where are you finding problems?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:49 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com
>
> Amazon is exceptionally accessible. What specific problems do you
experience?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:29 PM
> To: JAWS Users
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented with
accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their
supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same accessibility
challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.
>
> I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other tools
that make amazon.com more accessible.
>
> I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and
always get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of their
site seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2017-01-08 Thread Gene Warner
I beg your pardon, I fervently hope they wise up and make their site 
truly accessible to all, not just a fortunate few.




On 1/8/2017 8:07 PM, Dave wrote:

Yes, let's hope that Amazon never changes their user interface. It's a very
nice one for using JAWS. And I also do not use their accessible page -- I
use the mainstream page.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 16:17
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com


I want to explain. First, I don't use Amazon's accessible page. I agree with
you on that. I also realize the regular Amazon page is dense, which is
because it's packed with information. But navigating by h for heading and b
for button gets me to all the areas I usually want.

I used to have difficulty when a page offered periodic shipments, as opposed
to a one-time purchase. However, Amazon seems to have fixed it. I brought it
to their attention many months ago, and I'm sure others did, too. It isn't
the only problem I've alerted them to that they've addressed.

So, where are you finding problems?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Amazon is exceptionally accessible. What specific problems do you
experience?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:29 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Hi everyone!

Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented with
accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their
supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same accessibility
challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.

I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other tools
that make amazon.com more accessible.

I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and
always get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of their
site seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.

Cheers!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2017-01-08 Thread Gene Warner
First of all, I use Internet Explorer, I tried firefox once, but found 
that it introduced its own problems, so I went back to IE.


One common problem is buttons with no meaningful labels, just "button" 
or "submit query". When there's only one it's not much of a problem, but 
when you get three buttons next to each other all with the same useless 
label.


Today I had to return an item, I was able to get to the returns page, 
but could not check the check box for the item I was returning, nor 
could I get the drop down list of reasons for my return to work. In the 
end I had to call their customer service and get their help to submit 
the return request. This wasn't the first time I had to do this either, 
the first was several months ago and the problem persists, as does the 
unlabeled buttons problem which is well over a year old.


Honestly, I would think that it would be more efficient to use best 
practices for accessibility on their main site rather than to try to 
segregate screen reader user to an equally flawed and less functional 
site. It rather reminds me of how African Americans were treated in the 
early sixties and before, separate and unequal.


Cheers!



On 1/8/2017 7:17 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

I want to explain. First, I don't use Amazon's accessible page. I agree with 
you on that. I also realize the regular Amazon page is dense, which is because 
it's packed with information. But navigating by h for heading and b for button 
gets me to all the areas I usually want.

I used to have difficulty when a page offered periodic shipments, as opposed to 
a one-time purchase. However, Amazon seems to have fixed it. I brought it to 
their attention many months ago, and I'm sure others did, too. It isn't the 
only problem I've alerted them to that they've addressed.

So, where are you finding problems?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Amazon is exceptionally accessible. What specific problems do you experience?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:29 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Hi everyone!

Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented with 
accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their 
supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same accessibility 
challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.

I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other tools that 
make amazon.com more accessible.

I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and always 
get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of their site 
seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.

Cheers!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2017-01-08 Thread Judy
Why don't some of you use the accessible page? I find it a whole lot easier
when checking out and when going through the list of things I've searched
for rather than the regular page.  Judy & Libby 

 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 8:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Yes, let's hope that Amazon never changes their user interface. It's a very 
nice one for using JAWS. And I also do not use their accessible page -- I 
use the mainstream page.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 16:17
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com


I want to explain. First, I don't use Amazon's accessible page. I agree with

you on that. I also realize the regular Amazon page is dense, which is 
because it's packed with information. But navigating by h for heading and b 
for button gets me to all the areas I usually want.

I used to have difficulty when a page offered periodic shipments, as opposed

to a one-time purchase. However, Amazon seems to have fixed it. I brought it

to their attention many months ago, and I'm sure others did, too. It isn't 
the only problem I've alerted them to that they've addressed.

So, where are you finding problems?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Amazon is exceptionally accessible. What specific problems do you 
experience?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:29 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Hi everyone!

Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented with 
accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their 
supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same accessibility 
challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.

I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other tools 
that make amazon.com more accessible.

I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and 
always get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of their 
site seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.

Cheers!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2017-01-08 Thread Dave
Yes, let's hope that Amazon never changes their user interface. It's a very 
nice one for using JAWS. And I also do not use their accessible page -- I 
use the mainstream page.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 16:17
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com


I want to explain. First, I don't use Amazon's accessible page. I agree with 
you on that. I also realize the regular Amazon page is dense, which is 
because it's packed with information. But navigating by h for heading and b 
for button gets me to all the areas I usually want.

I used to have difficulty when a page offered periodic shipments, as opposed 
to a one-time purchase. However, Amazon seems to have fixed it. I brought it 
to their attention many months ago, and I'm sure others did, too. It isn't 
the only problem I've alerted them to that they've addressed.

So, where are you finding problems?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Amazon is exceptionally accessible. What specific problems do you 
experience?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:29 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Hi everyone!

Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented with 
accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their 
supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same accessibility 
challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.

I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other tools 
that make amazon.com more accessible.

I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and 
always get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of their 
site seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.

Cheers!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2017-01-08 Thread Adrian Spratt
I want to explain. First, I don't use Amazon's accessible page. I agree with 
you on that. I also realize the regular Amazon page is dense, which is because 
it's packed with information. But navigating by h for heading and b for button 
gets me to all the areas I usually want. 

I used to have difficulty when a page offered periodic shipments, as opposed to 
a one-time purchase. However, Amazon seems to have fixed it. I brought it to 
their attention many months ago, and I'm sure others did, too. It isn't the 
only problem I've alerted them to that they've addressed. 

So, where are you finding problems? 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Amazon is exceptionally accessible. What specific problems do you experience?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:29 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Hi everyone!

Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented with 
accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their 
supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same accessibility 
challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.

I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other tools that 
make amazon.com more accessible.

I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and always 
get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of their site 
seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.

Cheers!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2017-01-08 Thread Adrian Spratt
Amazon is exceptionally accessible. What specific problems do you experience?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:29 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Hi everyone!

Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented with 
accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their 
supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same accessibility 
challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.

I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other tools that 
make amazon.com more accessible.

I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and always 
get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of their site 
seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.

Cheers!

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[JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2017-01-08 Thread Greg Wocher
Hello,
What kinds of issues are you having? I shop with Amazon all the time with out 
any real difficulties. The only issues I have really had are with leaving 
reviews. I did just about all of my holiday shopping here. I use JAWS18 with 
either the latest version of Firefox or Google Chrome.

Regards,
Greg WocherHi everyone!

Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented with 
accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their 
supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same accessibility 
challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.

I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other tools that 
make amazon.com more accessible.

I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and always 
get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of their site 
seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.

Cheers!

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[JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2017-01-08 Thread Gene Warner

Hi everyone!

Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented with 
accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their 
supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same 
accessibility challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.


I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other 
tools that make amazon.com more accessible.


I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and 
always get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of 
their site seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.


Cheers!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

2015-09-19 Thread Pinky
Hi,
Can you explain to me what exactly what research it in jaws does for you
over the regular amazon search? Also can you tell me the jaws hot key for it
as my old mind has forgot again.

Thanks in advance.

Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of DGH
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

I sure hope they don't drop  it.  I use  the Amazon research it several
times a week and never have a problem.  It's convenient and fast for finding
an item.  I may need to type in different wording to find different results
but I always find what I'm looking for.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it


Could someone explain the advantages of using the Amazon.com option in
Research It versus visiting Amazon.com directly?  Using JAWS 16 with Windows
7, I have no trouble either navigating the Amazon.com site or making
purchases.  And for those who find the regular Amazon.com site somewhat
cluttered or difficult to navigate, there is always the accessible version
which is optimized for screen readers.  The trouble with Research It is that
when a web site is modified, Research It often no longer works well with
that site, if at all.  Although the Research It feature was useful and
convenient when it was originally introduced, many users are now reporting
problems with it, and FS should considerdropping it from future releases of
JAWS.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: ratshtron
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

well, to tell you the truth, when it first came out, i tried it and didn't
find it something i would use so i stopped using it and that's why i said
that. end of story and sorry to have offend anyone.
everybody has their own way of doing things and i simply use my browser and
it always works for me. you all have a great day.


Legend has it that on Friday 9/18/2015 06:57 AM, Kurt Miller said:

>Dave,
>
>Thanks. I just can't wrap my head around how such comments can even be 
>made by anyone.
>
>Kurt
>
>-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
>Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 2:11 AM
>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it
>
>Kurt,
>
>Good point.
>
>Dave Carlson
>Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Kurt Miller" <millerb...@gmail.com>
>To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
>Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 09:53 PM
>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it
>
>
>If you never used it, then how do you know it is sh*t?
>It is a great feature and gets used a lot here.
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>On Behalf Of ratshtron
>Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 8:32 PM
>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it
>
>researchit should be scrapped and removed from jaws. its a real piece 
>of sh*t as far as i'm conserned, lol! never used it and never will.
>
>
>Legend has it that on Thursday 9/17/2015 07:17 PM, Alan Robbins said:
>
> >Greg,
> >
> >I have been having this issue sporadically for some time now. I 
> >simply gave up on it and just go straight to the amazon site and 
> >search from there.
> >Also, just tried with the JAWS 17 beta, no go.
> >
> >Best,
> >Al
> >-Original Message-
> >From: JAWS-Users-List
> >[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Greg 
> >Washington
> >Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 7:33 PM
> >To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> >Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it
> >
> >The Amazon product search item in research it is not working on my 
> >Windows 7 computer using latest Jaws 16 with IE as my default 
> >browser.  When I search for items that as recently as yesterday 
> >returned the usual 5 items now Jaws reports there is nothing to 
> >display.  I get the message "press escape to close the results 
> >viewer.  Other choices such as weather and Wikipedia are working 
> >fine.  I have reported this to FS

Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

2015-09-19 Thread Shane Hecker

Try insert+spacebar, then r.

Shane

On 9/19/2015 12:29 PM, Pinky wrote:

Hi,
Can you explain to me what exactly what research it in jaws does for you
over the regular amazon search? Also can you tell me the jaws hot key for it
as my old mind has forgot again.

Thanks in advance.

Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of DGH
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

I sure hope they don't drop  it.  I use  the Amazon research it several
times a week and never have a problem.  It's convenient and fast for finding
an item.  I may need to type in different wording to find different results
but I always find what I'm looking for.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it


Could someone explain the advantages of using the Amazon.com option in
Research It versus visiting Amazon.com directly?  Using JAWS 16 with Windows
7, I have no trouble either navigating the Amazon.com site or making
purchases.  And for those who find the regular Amazon.com site somewhat
cluttered or difficult to navigate, there is always the accessible version
which is optimized for screen readers.  The trouble with Research It is that
when a web site is modified, Research It often no longer works well with
that site, if at all.  Although the Research It feature was useful and
convenient when it was originally introduced, many users are now reporting
problems with it, and FS should considerdropping it from future releases of
JAWS.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: ratshtron
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

well, to tell you the truth, when it first came out, i tried it and didn't
find it something i would use so i stopped using it and that's why i said
that. end of story and sorry to have offend anyone.
everybody has their own way of doing things and i simply use my browser and
it always works for me. you all have a great day.


Legend has it that on Friday 9/18/2015 06:57 AM, Kurt Miller said:


Dave,

Thanks. I just can't wrap my head around how such comments can even be
made by anyone.

Kurt

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 2:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

Kurt,

Good point.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message -
From: "Kurt Miller" <millerb...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 09:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it


If you never used it, then how do you know it is sh*t?
It is a great feature and gets used a lot here.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 8:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

researchit should be scrapped and removed from jaws. its a real piece
of sh*t as far as i'm conserned, lol! never used it and never will.


Legend has it that on Thursday 9/17/2015 07:17 PM, Alan Robbins said:


Greg,

I have been having this issue sporadically for some time now. I
simply gave up on it and just go straight to the amazon site and
search from there.
Also, just tried with the JAWS 17 beta, no go.

Best,
Al
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Greg
Washington
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 7:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

The Amazon product search item in research it is not working on my
Windows 7 computer using latest Jaws 16 with IE as my default
browser.  When I search for items that as recently as yesterday
returned the usual 5 items now Jaws reports there is nothing to
display.  I get the message "press escape to close the results
viewer.  Other choices such as weather and Wikipedia are working
fine.  I have reported this to FS support via email and am awaiting a
response.
Has anyone else experienced this problem today?
Best,
Greg Washington



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

2015-09-19 Thread DGH
The command is, insert spacebar followed by the letter R.
Type in the item you are  looking  for  and then tab one time.
Type the letter  A for Amazon and press enter.
This will bring up 5 search results for that product.
It gives you a short description and the  price.
If you want more information about one of the results or you want to
purchase it, just press enter on the name and it takes you to Amazon so you
can purchase it or see the reviews on that item and also get more
information about it.
I just find it to  be quick and easy.  Almost too easy to spend money.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pinky
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 12:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

Hi,
Can you explain to me what exactly what research it in jaws does for you
over the regular amazon search? Also can you tell me the jaws hot key for it
as my old mind has forgot again.

Thanks in advance.

Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of DGH
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

I sure hope they don't drop  it.  I use  the Amazon research it several
times a week and never have a problem.  It's convenient and fast for finding
an item.  I may need to type in different wording to find different results
but I always find what I'm looking for.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it


Could someone explain the advantages of using the Amazon.com option in
Research It versus visiting Amazon.com directly?  Using JAWS 16 with Windows
7, I have no trouble either navigating the Amazon.com site or making
purchases.  And for those who find the regular Amazon.com site somewhat
cluttered or difficult to navigate, there is always the accessible version
which is optimized for screen readers.  The trouble with Research It is that
when a web site is modified, Research It often no longer works well with
that site, if at all.  Although the Research It feature was useful and
convenient when it was originally introduced, many users are now reporting
problems with it, and FS should considerdropping it from future releases of
JAWS.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: ratshtron
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

well, to tell you the truth, when it first came out, i tried it and didn't
find it something i would use so i stopped using it and that's why i said
that. end of story and sorry to have offend anyone.
everybody has their own way of doing things and i simply use my browser and
it always works for me. you all have a great day.


Legend has it that on Friday 9/18/2015 06:57 AM, Kurt Miller said:

>Dave,
>
>Thanks. I just can't wrap my head around how such comments can even be 
>made by anyone.
>
>Kurt
>
>-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
>Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 2:11 AM
>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it
>
>Kurt,
>
>Good point.
>
>Dave Carlson
>Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Kurt Miller" <millerb...@gmail.com>
>To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
>Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 09:53 PM
>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it
>
>
>If you never used it, then how do you know it is sh*t?
>It is a great feature and gets used a lot here.
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>On Behalf Of ratshtron
>Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 8:32 PM
>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it
>
>researchit should be scrapped and removed from jaws. its a real piece 
>of sh*t as far as i'm conserned, lol! never used it and never will.
>
>
>Legend has it that on Thursday 9/17/2015 07:17 PM, Alan Robbins said:
>
> >Greg,
> >
> >I have been having this issue sporadically for some time now. I 
> >simply gave up on it and just go straight to the amazon site and 
> >search from there.
> >Also, just tried with the JAWS 17 beta, no go.
> >
> >Best,
> >

Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

2015-09-18 Thread Dave Carlson
Kurt,

Good point.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Kurt Miller" <millerb...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 09:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it


If you never used it, then how do you know it is sh*t?
It is a great feature and gets used a lot here.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 8:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

researchit should be scrapped and removed from jaws. its a real piece of
sh*t as far as i'm conserned, lol! never used it and never will.


Legend has it that on Thursday 9/17/2015 07:17 PM, Alan Robbins said:

>Greg,
>
>I have been having this issue sporadically for some time
>now. I simply gave up on it and just go straight to the
>amazon site and search from there.
>Also, just tried with the JAWS 17 beta, no go.
>
>Best,
>Al
>-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List
>[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
>Greg Washington
>Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 7:33 PM
>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it
>
>The Amazon product search item in research it is not working
>on my Windows 7 computer using latest Jaws 16 with IE as my
>default browser.  When I search for items that as recently
>as yesterday returned the usual 5 items now Jaws reports
>there is nothing to display.  I get the message "press
>escape to close the results viewer.  Other choices such as
>weather and Wikipedia are working fine.  I have reported
>this to FS support via email and am awaiting a response.
>Has anyone else experienced this problem today?
>Best,
>Greg Washington
>
>
>
>For answers to frequently asked questions about this list
>visit:
>http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

2015-09-18 Thread matthew dyer
Hi,

Just tried it on a win 10 system and same thing.

Matthew



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Greg Washington
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 7:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

The Amazon product search item in research it is not working on my Windows 7
computer using latest Jaws 16 with IE as my default browser.  When I search
for items that as recently as yesterday returned the usual 5 items now Jaws
reports there is nothing to display.  I get the message "press escape to
close the results viewer.  Other choices such as weather and Wikipedia are
working fine.  I have reported this to FS support via email and am awaiting
a response.  Has anyone else experienced this problem today?
Best,
Greg Washington



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

2015-09-18 Thread Kurt Miller
Dave,

Thanks. I just can't wrap my head around how such comments can even be made
by anyone.

Kurt

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 2:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

Kurt,

Good point.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Kurt Miller" <millerb...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 09:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it


If you never used it, then how do you know it is sh*t?
It is a great feature and gets used a lot here.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 8:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

researchit should be scrapped and removed from jaws. its a real piece of
sh*t as far as i'm conserned, lol! never used it and never will.


Legend has it that on Thursday 9/17/2015 07:17 PM, Alan Robbins said:

>Greg,
>
>I have been having this issue sporadically for some time
>now. I simply gave up on it and just go straight to the
>amazon site and search from there.
>Also, just tried with the JAWS 17 beta, no go.
>
>Best,
>Al
>-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List
>[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
>Greg Washington
>Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 7:33 PM
>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it
>
>The Amazon product search item in research it is not working
>on my Windows 7 computer using latest Jaws 16 with IE as my
>default browser.  When I search for items that as recently
>as yesterday returned the usual 5 items now Jaws reports
>there is nothing to display.  I get the message "press
>escape to close the results viewer.  Other choices such as
>weather and Wikipedia are working fine.  I have reported
>this to FS support via email and am awaiting a response.
>Has anyone else experienced this problem today?
>Best,
>Greg Washington
>
>
>
>For answers to frequently asked questions about this list
>visit:
>http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

2015-09-18 Thread Greg Washington
Dave,
You are right, thanks.  It wasn't working for me earlier today but now it
is.
Greg


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

Greg,

Working again today, so it was indeed a temporary change in the Amazon.com 
API.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Greg Washington" <gregw...@comcast.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 06:20 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it


Shane,
Thanks for your suggestion but unfortunately it didn't work for me.  Here is
FS's response to my report re Amazon.com and research it.

Dear Greg

Thank you for contacting Freedom Scientific technical Support.

This is a known issue that our development team is aware of and working on.
It's possible Amazon is doing some work on the page that's impacting this
issue. Therefore, I recommend trying it later and it may work.

  Be sure to include all previous correspondence pertaining to this matter
when replying to this message so that we might better
assist you.

 Regards,
Mr. Tracey Jackson
technical Support Specialist
Freedom Scientific, Inc
(727)803-8600
supp...@freedomscientific.com
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport
 www.FreedomScientific.com/support.asp

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Shane Hecker
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 9:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

I reported the amazon issue to FS a while back. There is a work around for
it. But first, let me explain what causes this, at least what caused the
problems for me and how to fix it.
When you use the screen reader optimized version of amazon.com, I believe it
puts a cookie on your computer. The cookie tells the browser to default to
that site. This in turn screws with the research-it feature because it is
expecting the main site, not the screen reader optimized version. Hence, you
get "press escape to close results viewer"
with no results.
The fix is to delete cookies. Then, try doing the research-it function and
it should work. If you are signed into an account, I'd suggest signing out
first, close the browser, then delete the cookies.
As a side note, under advanced in internet options, I have it set to not
save encrypted pages to disk and to empty temporary internet files when the
browser is closed. Hope this information is helpful.

Shane
ps: I just tried the research-it function with amazon and it works.

On 9/17/2015 6:33 PM, Greg Washington wrote:
> The Amazon product search item in research it is not working on my
> Windows 7 computer using latest Jaws 16 with IE as my default browser.
> When I search for items that as recently as yesterday returned the
> usual 5 items now Jaws reports there is nothing to display.  I get the
> message "press escape to close the results viewer.  Other choices such
> as weather and Wikipedia are working fine.  I have reported this to FS
> support via email and am awaiting a response.  Has anyone else experienced
this problem today?
> Best,
> Greg Washington
>
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

2015-09-18 Thread Dave Carlson
Greg,

Yes, that's why I use it, as well. It's an easy way to drill down to one or 
two specific product offerings, especially when the search term is vague or 
all-encompassing.

For example when I put in "APC UPS"  to look for an uninterruptable power 
source, I was given a list of 5 of their models, each with a different power 
capacity, along with pricing. Cant get much better than that unless you go 
to a Tag It site or a comparison shopping site.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Greg Washington" <gregw...@comcast.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 06:50 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it


Gerald,
It's just a personal preference in my case.  When I am looking for a
particular product on Amazon I like the uncluttered simple interface of
research it.  It will list five products that match my search criteria along
with the price and when I see one I am interested in I click on it and it
takes me to the item on Amazon's web site.  I too use the amazon web site
often as well but it's nice to have the research option especially when I am
in a hurry to get info on a particular product.

Greg Washington


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it


Could someone explain the advantages of using the Amazon.com option in
Research It versus visiting Amazon.com directly?  Using JAWS 16 with Windows

7, I have no trouble either navigating the Amazon.com site or making
purchases.  And for those who find the regular Amazon.com site somewhat
cluttered or difficult to navigate, there is always the accessible version
which is optimized for screen readers.  The trouble with Research It is that

when a web site is modified, Research It often no longer works well with
that site, if at all.  Although the Research It feature was useful and
convenient when it was originally introduced, many users are now reporting
problems with it, and FS should considerdropping it from future releases of
JAWS.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: ratshtron
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

well, to tell you the truth, when it first came out, i tried it and
didn't find it something i would use so i stopped using it and that's
why i said that. end of story and sorry to have offend anyone.
everybody has their own way of doing things and i simply use my
browser and it always works for me. you all have a great day.


Legend has it that on Friday 9/18/2015 06:57 AM, Kurt Miller said:

>Dave,
>
>Thanks. I just can't wrap my head around how such comments can even be made
>by anyone.
>
>Kurt
>
>-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>Behalf Of Dave Carlson
>Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 2:11 AM
>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it
>
>Kurt,
>
>Good point.
>
>Dave Carlson
>Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Kurt Miller" <millerb...@gmail.com>
>To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
>Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 09:53 PM
>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it
>
>
>If you never used it, then how do you know it is sh*t?
>It is a great feature and gets used a lot here.
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>Behalf Of ratshtron
>Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 8:32 PM
>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it
>
>researchit should be scrapped and removed from jaws. its a real piece of
>sh*t as far as i'm conserned, lol! never used it and never will.
>
>
>Legend has it that on Thursday 9/17/2015 07:17 PM, Alan Robbins said:
>
> >Greg,
> >
> >I have been having this issue sporadically for some time
> >now. I simply gave up on it and just go straight to the
> >amazon site and search from there.
> >Also, just tried with the JAWS 17 beta, no go.
> >
> >Best,
> >Al
> >-Original Message-
> >From: JAWS-Users-List
> >[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
> >Greg Washington
> >Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 7:33 PM
> >To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> >Subj

Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

2015-09-18 Thread DGH
I sure hope they don't drop  it.  I use  the Amazon research it several
times a week and never have a problem.  It's convenient and fast for finding
an item.  I may need to type in different wording to find different results
but I always find what I'm looking for.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy 
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it


Could someone explain the advantages of using the Amazon.com option in
Research It versus visiting Amazon.com directly?  Using JAWS 16 with Windows
7, I have no trouble either navigating the Amazon.com site or making
purchases.  And for those who find the regular Amazon.com site somewhat
cluttered or difficult to navigate, there is always the accessible version
which is optimized for screen readers.  The trouble with Research It is that
when a web site is modified, Research It often no longer works well with
that site, if at all.  Although the Research It feature was useful and
convenient when it was originally introduced, many users are now reporting
problems with it, and FS should considerdropping it from future releases of
JAWS.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: ratshtron
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

well, to tell you the truth, when it first came out, i tried it and didn't
find it something i would use so i stopped using it and that's why i said
that. end of story and sorry to have offend anyone.
everybody has their own way of doing things and i simply use my browser and
it always works for me. you all have a great day.


Legend has it that on Friday 9/18/2015 06:57 AM, Kurt Miller said:

>Dave,
>
>Thanks. I just can't wrap my head around how such comments can even be 
>made by anyone.
>
>Kurt
>
>-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
>Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 2:11 AM
>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it
>
>Kurt,
>
>Good point.
>
>Dave Carlson
>Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Kurt Miller" <millerb...@gmail.com>
>To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
>Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 09:53 PM
>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it
>
>
>If you never used it, then how do you know it is sh*t?
>It is a great feature and gets used a lot here.
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>On Behalf Of ratshtron
>Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 8:32 PM
>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it
>
>researchit should be scrapped and removed from jaws. its a real piece 
>of sh*t as far as i'm conserned, lol! never used it and never will.
>
>
>Legend has it that on Thursday 9/17/2015 07:17 PM, Alan Robbins said:
>
> >Greg,
> >
> >I have been having this issue sporadically for some time now. I 
> >simply gave up on it and just go straight to the amazon site and 
> >search from there.
> >Also, just tried with the JAWS 17 beta, no go.
> >
> >Best,
> >Al
> >-Original Message-
> >From: JAWS-Users-List
> >[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Greg 
> >Washington
> >Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 7:33 PM
> >To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> >Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it
> >
> >The Amazon product search item in research it is not working on my 
> >Windows 7 computer using latest Jaws 16 with IE as my default 
> >browser.  When I search for items that as recently as yesterday 
> >returned the usual 5 items now Jaws reports there is nothing to 
> >display.  I get the message "press escape to close the results 
> >viewer.  Other choices such as weather and Wikipedia are working 
> >fine.  I have reported this to FS support via email and am awaiting a 
> >response.
> >Has anyone else experienced this problem today?
> >Best,
> >Greg Washington
> >
> >
> >
> >For answers to frequently asked questions about this list
> >visit:
> >http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> >
> >
> >For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> >http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>-

Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

2015-09-18 Thread Greg Washington
Shane,
Thanks for your suggestion but unfortunately it didn't work for me.  Here is
FS's response to my report re Amazon.com and research it.

Dear Greg

Thank you for contacting Freedom Scientific technical Support. 

This is a known issue that our development team is aware of and working on.
It's possible Amazon is doing some work on the page that's impacting this
issue. Therefore, I recommend trying it later and it may work. 

  Be sure to include all previous correspondence pertaining to this matter
when replying to this message so that we might better
assist you. 
 
 Regards,
Mr. Tracey Jackson
technical Support Specialist
Freedom Scientific, Inc
(727)803-8600
supp...@freedomscientific.com
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport
 www.FreedomScientific.com/support.asp

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Shane Hecker
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 9:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

I reported the amazon issue to FS a while back. There is a work around for
it. But first, let me explain what causes this, at least what caused the
problems for me and how to fix it.
When you use the screen reader optimized version of amazon.com, I believe it
puts a cookie on your computer. The cookie tells the browser to default to
that site. This in turn screws with the research-it feature because it is
expecting the main site, not the screen reader optimized version. Hence, you
get "press escape to close results viewer" 
with no results.
The fix is to delete cookies. Then, try doing the research-it function and
it should work. If you are signed into an account, I'd suggest signing out
first, close the browser, then delete the cookies.
As a side note, under advanced in internet options, I have it set to not
save encrypted pages to disk and to empty temporary internet files when the
browser is closed. Hope this information is helpful.

Shane
ps: I just tried the research-it function with amazon and it works.

On 9/17/2015 6:33 PM, Greg Washington wrote:
> The Amazon product search item in research it is not working on my 
> Windows 7 computer using latest Jaws 16 with IE as my default browser.  
> When I search for items that as recently as yesterday returned the 
> usual 5 items now Jaws reports there is nothing to display.  I get the 
> message "press escape to close the results viewer.  Other choices such 
> as weather and Wikipedia are working fine.  I have reported this to FS 
> support via email and am awaiting a response.  Has anyone else experienced
this problem today?
> Best,
> Greg Washington
>
>
>
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> .
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

2015-09-18 Thread Gerald Levy


Could someone explain the advantages of using the Amazon.com option in 
Research It versus visiting Amazon.com directly?  Using JAWS 16 with Windows 
7, I have no trouble either navigating the Amazon.com site or making 
purchases.  And for those who find the regular Amazon.com site somewhat 
cluttered or difficult to navigate, there is always the accessible version 
which is optimized for screen readers.  The trouble with Research It is that 
when a web site is modified, Research It often no longer works well with 
that site, if at all.  Although the Research It feature was useful and 
convenient when it was originally introduced, many users are now reporting 
problems with it, and FS should considerdropping it from future releases of 
JAWS.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: ratshtron

Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

well, to tell you the truth, when it first came out, i tried it and
didn't find it something i would use so i stopped using it and that's
why i said that. end of story and sorry to have offend anyone.
everybody has their own way of doing things and i simply use my
browser and it always works for me. you all have a great day.


Legend has it that on Friday 9/18/2015 06:57 AM, Kurt Miller said:


Dave,

Thanks. I just can't wrap my head around how such comments can even be made
by anyone.

Kurt

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 2:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

Kurt,

Good point.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message -
From: "Kurt Miller" <millerb...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 09:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it


If you never used it, then how do you know it is sh*t?
It is a great feature and gets used a lot here.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 8:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

researchit should be scrapped and removed from jaws. its a real piece of
sh*t as far as i'm conserned, lol! never used it and never will.


Legend has it that on Thursday 9/17/2015 07:17 PM, Alan Robbins said:

>Greg,
>
>I have been having this issue sporadically for some time
>now. I simply gave up on it and just go straight to the
>amazon site and search from there.
>Also, just tried with the JAWS 17 beta, no go.
>
>Best,
>Al
>-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List
>[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
>Greg Washington
>Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 7:33 PM
>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it
>
>The Amazon product search item in research it is not working
>on my Windows 7 computer using latest Jaws 16 with IE as my
>default browser.  When I search for items that as recently
>as yesterday returned the usual 5 items now Jaws reports
>there is nothing to display.  I get the message "press
>escape to close the results viewer.  Other choices such as
>weather and Wikipedia are working fine.  I have reported
>this to FS support via email and am awaiting a response.
>Has anyone else experienced this problem today?
>Best,
>Greg Washington
>
>
>
>For answers to frequently asked questions about this list
>visit:
>http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

2015-09-18 Thread Greg Washington
Gerald,
It's just a personal preference in my case.  When I am looking for a
particular product on Amazon I like the uncluttered simple interface of
research it.  It will list five products that match my search criteria along
with the price and when I see one I am interested in I click on it and it
takes me to the item on Amazon's web site.  I too use the amazon web site
often as well but it's nice to have the research option especially when I am
in a hurry to get info on a particular product.

Greg Washington


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy 
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it


Could someone explain the advantages of using the Amazon.com option in 
Research It versus visiting Amazon.com directly?  Using JAWS 16 with Windows

7, I have no trouble either navigating the Amazon.com site or making 
purchases.  And for those who find the regular Amazon.com site somewhat 
cluttered or difficult to navigate, there is always the accessible version 
which is optimized for screen readers.  The trouble with Research It is that

when a web site is modified, Research It often no longer works well with 
that site, if at all.  Although the Research It feature was useful and 
convenient when it was originally introduced, many users are now reporting 
problems with it, and FS should considerdropping it from future releases of 
JAWS.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: ratshtron
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

well, to tell you the truth, when it first came out, i tried it and
didn't find it something i would use so i stopped using it and that's
why i said that. end of story and sorry to have offend anyone.
everybody has their own way of doing things and i simply use my
browser and it always works for me. you all have a great day.


Legend has it that on Friday 9/18/2015 06:57 AM, Kurt Miller said:

>Dave,
>
>Thanks. I just can't wrap my head around how such comments can even be made
>by anyone.
>
>Kurt
>
>-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>Behalf Of Dave Carlson
>Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 2:11 AM
>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it
>
>Kurt,
>
>Good point.
>
>Dave Carlson
>Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Kurt Miller" <millerb...@gmail.com>
>To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
>Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 09:53 PM
>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it
>
>
>If you never used it, then how do you know it is sh*t?
>It is a great feature and gets used a lot here.
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>Behalf Of ratshtron
>Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 8:32 PM
>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it
>
>researchit should be scrapped and removed from jaws. its a real piece of
>sh*t as far as i'm conserned, lol! never used it and never will.
>
>
>Legend has it that on Thursday 9/17/2015 07:17 PM, Alan Robbins said:
>
> >Greg,
> >
> >I have been having this issue sporadically for some time
> >now. I simply gave up on it and just go straight to the
> >amazon site and search from there.
> >Also, just tried with the JAWS 17 beta, no go.
> >
> >Best,
> >Al
> >-Original Message-
> >From: JAWS-Users-List
> >[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
> >Greg Washington
> >Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 7:33 PM
> >To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> >Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it
> >
> >The Amazon product search item in research it is not working
> >on my Windows 7 computer using latest Jaws 16 with IE as my
> >default browser.  When I search for items that as recently
> >as yesterday returned the usual 5 items now Jaws reports
> >there is nothing to display.  I get the message "press
> >escape to close the results viewer.  Other choices such as
> >weather and Wikipedia are working fine.  I have reported
> >this to FS support via email and am awaiting a response.
> >Has anyone else experienced this problem today?
> >Best,
> >Greg Washington
> >
> >
> >
> >For answers to frequently as

Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

2015-09-18 Thread ratshtron
well, to tell you the truth, when it first came out, i tried it and 
didn't find it something i would use so i stopped using it and that's 
why i said that. end of story and sorry to have offend anyone. 
everybody has their own way of doing things and i simply use my 
browser and it always works for me. you all have a great day.



Legend has it that on Friday 9/18/2015 06:57 AM, Kurt Miller said:


Dave,

Thanks. I just can't wrap my head around how such comments can even be made
by anyone.

Kurt

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 2:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

Kurt,

Good point.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message -
From: "Kurt Miller" <millerb...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 09:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it


If you never used it, then how do you know it is sh*t?
It is a great feature and gets used a lot here.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 8:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

researchit should be scrapped and removed from jaws. its a real piece of
sh*t as far as i'm conserned, lol! never used it and never will.


Legend has it that on Thursday 9/17/2015 07:17 PM, Alan Robbins said:

>Greg,
>
>I have been having this issue sporadically for some time
>now. I simply gave up on it and just go straight to the
>amazon site and search from there.
>Also, just tried with the JAWS 17 beta, no go.
>
>Best,
>Al
>-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List
>[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
>Greg Washington
>Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 7:33 PM
>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it
>
>The Amazon product search item in research it is not working
>on my Windows 7 computer using latest Jaws 16 with IE as my
>default browser.  When I search for items that as recently
>as yesterday returned the usual 5 items now Jaws reports
>there is nothing to display.  I get the message "press
>escape to close the results viewer.  Other choices such as
>weather and Wikipedia are working fine.  I have reported
>this to FS support via email and am awaiting a response.
>Has anyone else experienced this problem today?
>Best,
>Greg Washington
>
>
>
>For answers to frequently asked questions about this list
>visit:
>http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

2015-09-18 Thread Dave Carlson
Greg,

Working again today, so it was indeed a temporary change in the Amazon.com 
API.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Greg Washington" <gregw...@comcast.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 06:20 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it


Shane,
Thanks for your suggestion but unfortunately it didn't work for me.  Here is
FS's response to my report re Amazon.com and research it.

Dear Greg

Thank you for contacting Freedom Scientific technical Support.

This is a known issue that our development team is aware of and working on.
It's possible Amazon is doing some work on the page that's impacting this
issue. Therefore, I recommend trying it later and it may work.

  Be sure to include all previous correspondence pertaining to this matter
when replying to this message so that we might better
assist you.

 Regards,
Mr. Tracey Jackson
technical Support Specialist
Freedom Scientific, Inc
(727)803-8600
supp...@freedomscientific.com
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport
 www.FreedomScientific.com/support.asp

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Shane Hecker
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 9:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

I reported the amazon issue to FS a while back. There is a work around for
it. But first, let me explain what causes this, at least what caused the
problems for me and how to fix it.
When you use the screen reader optimized version of amazon.com, I believe it
puts a cookie on your computer. The cookie tells the browser to default to
that site. This in turn screws with the research-it feature because it is
expecting the main site, not the screen reader optimized version. Hence, you
get "press escape to close results viewer"
with no results.
The fix is to delete cookies. Then, try doing the research-it function and
it should work. If you are signed into an account, I'd suggest signing out
first, close the browser, then delete the cookies.
As a side note, under advanced in internet options, I have it set to not
save encrypted pages to disk and to empty temporary internet files when the
browser is closed. Hope this information is helpful.

Shane
ps: I just tried the research-it function with amazon and it works.

On 9/17/2015 6:33 PM, Greg Washington wrote:
> The Amazon product search item in research it is not working on my
> Windows 7 computer using latest Jaws 16 with IE as my default browser.
> When I search for items that as recently as yesterday returned the
> usual 5 items now Jaws reports there is nothing to display.  I get the
> message "press escape to close the results viewer.  Other choices such
> as weather and Wikipedia are working fine.  I have reported this to FS
> support via email and am awaiting a response.  Has anyone else experienced
this problem today?
> Best,
> Greg Washington
>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> .
>


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

2015-09-18 Thread hwolcott

hi:
unfortunately, it still doesn't work for me.


howard wolcott

--
From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 10:24 AM
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it


Greg,

Yes, that's why I use it, as well. It's an easy way to drill down to one 
or
two specific product offerings, especially when the search term is vague 
or

all-encompassing.

For example when I put in "APC UPS"  to look for an uninterruptable power
source, I was given a list of 5 of their models, each with a different 
power

capacity, along with pricing. Cant get much better than that unless you go
to a Tag It site or a comparison shopping site.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Greg Washington" <gregw...@comcast.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 06:50 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it


Gerald,
It's just a personal preference in my case.  When I am looking for a
particular product on Amazon I like the uncluttered simple interface of
research it.  It will list five products that match my search criteria 
along

with the price and when I see one I am interested in I click on it and it
takes me to the item on Amazon's web site.  I too use the amazon web site
often as well but it's nice to have the research option especially when I 
am

in a hurry to get info on a particular product.

Greg Washington


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it


Could someone explain the advantages of using the Amazon.com option in
Research It versus visiting Amazon.com directly?  Using JAWS 16 with 
Windows


7, I have no trouble either navigating the Amazon.com site or making
purchases.  And for those who find the regular Amazon.com site somewhat
cluttered or difficult to navigate, there is always the accessible version
which is optimized for screen readers.  The trouble with Research It is 
that


when a web site is modified, Research It often no longer works well with
that site, if at all.  Although the Research It feature was useful and
convenient when it was originally introduced, many users are now reporting
problems with it, and FS should considerdropping it from future releases 
of

JAWS.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: ratshtron

Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

well, to tell you the truth, when it first came out, i tried it and
didn't find it something i would use so i stopped using it and that's
why i said that. end of story and sorry to have offend anyone.
everybody has their own way of doing things and i simply use my
browser and it always works for me. you all have a great day.


Legend has it that on Friday 9/18/2015 06:57 AM, Kurt Miller said:


Dave,

Thanks. I just can't wrap my head around how such comments can even be 
made

by anyone.

Kurt

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 2:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

Kurt,

Good point.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message -
From: "Kurt Miller" <millerb...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 09:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it


If you never used it, then how do you know it is sh*t?
It is a great feature and gets used a lot here.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 8:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

researchit should be scrapped and removed from jaws. its a real piece of
sh*t as far as i'm conserned, lol! never used it and never will.


Legend has it that on Thursday 9/17/2015 07:17 PM, Alan Robbins said:

>Greg,
>
>I have been having this issue sporadically for some time
>now. I simply gave up on it and just go straight to the
>amazon site and search from there.
>Also, just tried with the JAWS 17 beta, no go.
>
>Best,
>Al
>-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List
>[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
>Greg Washingto

Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

2015-09-17 Thread Ward Dudley

Same here.

Ward

On 9/17/2015 6:33 PM, Greg Washington wrote:

The Amazon product search item in research it is not working on my Windows 7
computer using latest Jaws 16 with IE as my default browser.  When I search
for items that as recently as yesterday returned the usual 5 items now Jaws
reports there is nothing to display.  I get the message "press escape to
close the results viewer.  Other choices such as weather and Wikipedia are
working fine.  I have reported this to FS support via email and am awaiting
a response.  Has anyone else experienced this problem today?
Best,
Greg Washington



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

2015-09-17 Thread Greg Washington
Thanks.  I hope so.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 8:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

Greg,

I'm thinking that Amazon has put up some sort of flash at the beginning of
their web site, that is messing up the API for Research It. Similar
complaints about Google occasionally changing their web site for a special
holiday or anniversary.

Maybe it will work again after today.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message -
From: "Greg Washington" <gregw...@comcast.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 04:33 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it


The Amazon product search item in research it is not working on my Windows 7
computer using latest Jaws 16 with IE as my default browser.  When I search
for items that as recently as yesterday returned the usual 5 items now Jaws
reports there is nothing to display.  I get the message "press escape to
close the results viewer.  Other choices such as weather and Wikipedia are
working fine.  I have reported this to FS support via email and am awaiting
a response.  Has anyone else experienced this problem today?
Best,
Greg Washington



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

2015-09-17 Thread Dave Carlson
Don't blame Research It. It worked for me yesterday, and today it's not. 
I've changed nothing on my computer, neither JAWS nor Internet Explorer. I 
suspect that Amazon has changed something with their API on the web site 
that has resulted in the current problem -- just as those using MLB had 
problems some time back. It's all due to the underlying web sites changing 
something so that Research It can no longer get the information.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

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From: "Alan Robbins" <arobb...@blindhandyman.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 05:17 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it


Greg,

I have been having this issue sporadically for some time
now. I simply gave up on it and just go straight to the
amazon site and search from there.
Also, just tried with the JAWS 17 beta, no go.

Best,
Al
-Original Message-
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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Greg Washington
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 7:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

The Amazon product search item in research it is not working
on my Windows 7 computer using latest Jaws 16 with IE as my
default browser.  When I search for items that as recently
as yesterday returned the usual 5 items now Jaws reports
there is nothing to display.  I get the message "press
escape to close the results viewer.  Other choices such as
weather and Wikipedia are working fine.  I have reported
this to FS support via email and am awaiting a response.
Has anyone else experienced this problem today?
Best,
Greg Washington



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

2015-09-17 Thread Dave Carlson
Greg,

I'm thinking that Amazon has put up some sort of flash at the beginning of 
their web site, that is messing up the API for Research It. Similar 
complaints about Google occasionally changing their web site for a special 
holiday or anniversary.

Maybe it will work again after today.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

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From: "Greg Washington" <gregw...@comcast.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 04:33 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it


The Amazon product search item in research it is not working on my Windows 7
computer using latest Jaws 16 with IE as my default browser.  When I search
for items that as recently as yesterday returned the usual 5 items now Jaws
reports there is nothing to display.  I get the message "press escape to
close the results viewer.  Other choices such as weather and Wikipedia are
working fine.  I have reported this to FS support via email and am awaiting
a response.  Has anyone else experienced this problem today?
Best,
Greg Washington



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

2015-09-17 Thread Shane Hecker
I reported the amazon issue to FS a while back. There is a work around 
for it. But first, let me explain what causes this, at least what caused 
the problems for me and how to fix it.
When you use the screen reader optimized version of amazon.com, I 
believe it puts a cookie on your computer. The cookie tells the browser 
to default to that site. This in turn screws with the research-it 
feature because it is expecting the main site, not the screen reader 
optimized version. Hence, you get "press escape to close results viewer" 
with no results.
The fix is to delete cookies. Then, try doing the research-it function 
and it should work. If you are signed into an account, I'd suggest 
signing out first, close the browser, then delete the cookies.
As a side note, under advanced in internet options, I have it set to not 
save encrypted pages to disk and to empty temporary internet files when 
the browser is closed. Hope this information is helpful.


Shane
ps: I just tried the research-it function with amazon and it works.

On 9/17/2015 6:33 PM, Greg Washington wrote:

The Amazon product search item in research it is not working on my Windows 7
computer using latest Jaws 16 with IE as my default browser.  When I search
for items that as recently as yesterday returned the usual 5 items now Jaws
reports there is nothing to display.  I get the message "press escape to
close the results viewer.  Other choices such as weather and Wikipedia are
working fine.  I have reported this to FS support via email and am awaiting
a response.  Has anyone else experienced this problem today?
Best,
Greg Washington



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[JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

2015-09-17 Thread Greg Washington
The Amazon product search item in research it is not working on my Windows 7
computer using latest Jaws 16 with IE as my default browser.  When I search
for items that as recently as yesterday returned the usual 5 items now Jaws
reports there is nothing to display.  I get the message "press escape to
close the results viewer.  Other choices such as weather and Wikipedia are
working fine.  I have reported this to FS support via email and am awaiting
a response.  Has anyone else experienced this problem today?
Best,
Greg Washington



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

2015-09-17 Thread Kurt Miller
I just tried mine and it is the same thing. Mine worked fine when others
were having issues before.
Kurt

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 8:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

Greg,

I have been having this issue sporadically for some time now. I simply gave
up on it and just go straight to the amazon site and search from there.
Also, just tried with the JAWS 17 beta, no go.

Best,
Al
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Greg Washington
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 7:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

The Amazon product search item in research it is not working on my Windows 7
computer using latest Jaws 16 with IE as my default browser.  When I search
for items that as recently as yesterday returned the usual 5 items now Jaws
reports there is nothing to display.  I get the message "press escape to
close the results viewer.  Other choices such as weather and Wikipedia are
working fine.  I have reported this to FS support via email and am awaiting
a response.
Has anyone else experienced this problem today?
Best,
Greg Washington



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

2015-09-17 Thread Greg Washington
Al,
Thanks for sharing your experience.  I've been going directly to the
www.amazon.com site today as well.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 7:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

Greg,

I have been having this issue sporadically for some time
now. I simply gave up on it and just go straight to the
amazon site and search from there.
Also, just tried with the JAWS 17 beta, no go.

Best,
Al
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Greg Washington
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 7:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

The Amazon product search item in research it is not working
on my Windows 7 computer using latest Jaws 16 with IE as my
default browser.  When I search for items that as recently
as yesterday returned the usual 5 items now Jaws reports
there is nothing to display.  I get the message "press
escape to close the results viewer.  Other choices such as
weather and Wikipedia are working fine.  I have reported
this to FS support via email and am awaiting a response.
Has anyone else experienced this problem today?
Best,
Greg Washington



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

2015-09-17 Thread Alan Robbins
Greg,

I have been having this issue sporadically for some time
now. I simply gave up on it and just go straight to the
amazon site and search from there.
Also, just tried with the JAWS 17 beta, no go.

Best,
Al
-Original Message-
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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Greg Washington
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 7:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

The Amazon product search item in research it is not working
on my Windows 7 computer using latest Jaws 16 with IE as my
default browser.  When I search for items that as recently
as yesterday returned the usual 5 items now Jaws reports
there is nothing to display.  I get the message "press
escape to close the results viewer.  Other choices such as
weather and Wikipedia are working fine.  I have reported
this to FS support via email and am awaiting a response.
Has anyone else experienced this problem today?
Best,
Greg Washington



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

2015-09-17 Thread Greg Washington
To each their own


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 7:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

researchit should be scrapped and removed from jaws. its a real piece 
of sh*t as far as i'm conserned, lol! never used it and never will.


Legend has it that on Thursday 9/17/2015 07:17 PM, Alan Robbins said:

>Greg,
>
>I have been having this issue sporadically for some time
>now. I simply gave up on it and just go straight to the
>amazon site and search from there.
>Also, just tried with the JAWS 17 beta, no go.
>
>Best,
>Al
>-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List
>[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
>Greg Washington
>Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 7:33 PM
>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it
>
>The Amazon product search item in research it is not working
>on my Windows 7 computer using latest Jaws 16 with IE as my
>default browser.  When I search for items that as recently
>as yesterday returned the usual 5 items now Jaws reports
>there is nothing to display.  I get the message "press
>escape to close the results viewer.  Other choices such as
>weather and Wikipedia are working fine.  I have reported
>this to FS support via email and am awaiting a response.
>Has anyone else experienced this problem today?
>Best,
>Greg Washington
>
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

2015-09-17 Thread Greg Washington
Thanks.

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Behalf Of Kurt Miller
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 7:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

I just tried mine and it is the same thing. Mine worked fine when others
were having issues before.
Kurt

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 8:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

Greg,

I have been having this issue sporadically for some time now. I simply gave
up on it and just go straight to the amazon site and search from there.
Also, just tried with the JAWS 17 beta, no go.

Best,
Al
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Greg Washington
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 7:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

The Amazon product search item in research it is not working on my Windows 7
computer using latest Jaws 16 with IE as my default browser.  When I search
for items that as recently as yesterday returned the usual 5 items now Jaws
reports there is nothing to display.  I get the message "press escape to
close the results viewer.  Other choices such as weather and Wikipedia are
working fine.  I have reported this to FS support via email and am awaiting
a response.
Has anyone else experienced this problem today?
Best,
Greg Washington



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

2015-09-17 Thread ratshtron

exactly! that's why researchit will always work one day and not the next.


Legend has it that on Thursday 9/17/2015 08:22 PM, Dave Carlson said:


Don't blame Research It. It worked for me yesterday, and today it's not.
I've changed nothing on my computer, neither JAWS nor Internet Explorer. I
suspect that Amazon has changed something with their API on the web site
that has resulted in the current problem -- just as those using MLB had
problems some time back. It's all due to the underlying web sites changing
something so that Research It can no longer get the information.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

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From: "Alan Robbins" <arobb...@blindhandyman.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 05:17 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it


Greg,

I have been having this issue sporadically for some time
now. I simply gave up on it and just go straight to the
amazon site and search from there.
Also, just tried with the JAWS 17 beta, no go.

Best,
Al
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Greg Washington
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 7:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

The Amazon product search item in research it is not working
on my Windows 7 computer using latest Jaws 16 with IE as my
default browser.  When I search for items that as recently
as yesterday returned the usual 5 items now Jaws reports
there is nothing to display.  I get the message "press
escape to close the results viewer.  Other choices such as
weather and Wikipedia are working fine.  I have reported
this to FS support via email and am awaiting a response.
Has anyone else experienced this problem today?
Best,
Greg Washington



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

2015-09-17 Thread Kurt Miller
If you never used it, then how do you know it is sh*t?
It is a great feature and gets used a lot here.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 8:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it

researchit should be scrapped and removed from jaws. its a real piece of
sh*t as far as i'm conserned, lol! never used it and never will.


Legend has it that on Thursday 9/17/2015 07:17 PM, Alan Robbins said:

>Greg,
>
>I have been having this issue sporadically for some time
>now. I simply gave up on it and just go straight to the
>amazon site and search from there.
>Also, just tried with the JAWS 17 beta, no go.
>
>Best,
>Al
>-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List
>[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
>Greg Washington
>Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 7:33 PM
>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com not working in research it
>
>The Amazon product search item in research it is not working
>on my Windows 7 computer using latest Jaws 16 with IE as my
>default browser.  When I search for items that as recently
>as yesterday returned the usual 5 items now Jaws reports
>there is nothing to display.  I get the message "press
>escape to close the results viewer.  Other choices such as
>weather and Wikipedia are working fine.  I have reported
>this to FS support via email and am awaiting a response.
>Has anyone else experienced this problem today?
>Best,
>Greg Washington
>
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com/access on desktop

2015-05-09 Thread Neil Towery
 Worked like a charm. Surely beats the regular amazon.com site. 
Thanks. Neil 


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Behalf Of valiant8086
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 6:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com/access on desktop

Hi.
Sure, find the amazon.com shortcut you placed on the desktop. Press 
alt+enter while focused on the shortcut. You should be asked an edit box
that says something along the lines of target or perhaps type the
location you want this shortcut to point to. Type into this box (replacing
the existing incorrect contents), http://amazon.com/access; 
and press enter.

Good luck!

Cheers, Sent with Thunderbird 31.3.0 portable On 5/8/2015 6:18 PM, Neil
Towery wrote:
 Hello Folks:

 Wow, y'all know a bunch. Most of it is over my head. But, I do have a 
 question.

   I followed the instructions to put google.com on the desktop. Cool.

   Amazon.com/access is good for screen readers, because it eliminates 
 many links. So, I followed the same method used to put google on the
desktop.

   It worked, but it put the full amazon.com site on the desktop rather 
 than amazon.com/access

 Any suggestions on how to get amazon.com/access on the desktop rather 
 than amazon.com?

 Thanks. Neil

   

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com/access on desktop

2015-05-09 Thread Neil Towery
Mike: 
 Thanks for giviy it a try. Glad I was not the only one interested in
attempting it. 
Neil 
 

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Michael B.
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 9:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com/access on desktop

Hi Neal,

I went to:

www.amazon.com/access

 this is what the address bar reads,

http://www.amazon.com/?_encoding=UTF8ref_=mw_access

The above URL is also what is in the desktop shortcut properties.  I tried
changing the URL in the Amazon desktop properties to:

http://www.amazon.com/access

But, when using the desktop shortcut after making the change to it, 
clicking on it, you are still taken to:

http://www.amazon.com/?_encoding=UTF8ref_=mw_access

I don't know anything about HTML coding but, it doesn't look like a direct
desktop shortcut can be made to Amazon's access website.  Hopefully someone
will figure out a way to do it because I would like to have it as well. 
What I do is open the Run Dialog  type;

www.amazon.com/access

 press enter to take me directly to the site.

Sorry I couldn't have provided more positive information.
Take care.
Mike
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From: Neil Towery
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 3:18 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com/access on desktop


Hello Folks:

Wow, y'all know a bunch. Most of it is over my head. But, I do have a
question.

 I followed the instructions to put google.com on the desktop. Cool.

 Amazon.com/access is good for screen readers, because it eliminates many
links. So, I followed the same method used to put google on the desktop.

 It worked, but it put the full amazon.com site on the desktop rather than
amazon.com/access

Any suggestions on how to get amazon.com/access on the desktop rather than
amazon.com?

Thanks. Neil



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com/access on desktop

2015-05-08 Thread valiant8086

Hi.
Sure, find the amazon.com shortcut you placed on the desktop. Press 
alt+enter while focused on the shortcut. You should be asked an edit box 
that says something along the lines of target or perhaps type the 
location you want this shortcut to point to. Type into this box 
(replacing the existing incorrect contents), http://amazon.com/access; 
and press enter.


Good luck!

Cheers, Sent with Thunderbird 31.3.0 portable
On 5/8/2015 6:18 PM, Neil Towery wrote:

Hello Folks:

Wow, y'all know a bunch. Most of it is over my head. But, I do have a
question.

  I followed the instructions to put google.com on the desktop. Cool.

  Amazon.com/access is good for screen readers, because it eliminates many
links. So, I followed the same method used to put google on the desktop.

  It worked, but it put the full amazon.com site on the desktop rather than
amazon.com/access

Any suggestions on how to get amazon.com/access on the desktop rather than
amazon.com?

Thanks. Neil

  


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com/access on desktop

2015-05-08 Thread Michael B.
Hi Neal,

I went to:

www.amazon.com/access

 this is what the address bar reads,

http://www.amazon.com/?_encoding=UTF8ref_=mw_access

The above URL is also what is in the desktop shortcut properties.  I tried 
changing the URL in the Amazon desktop properties to:

http://www.amazon.com/access

But, when using the desktop shortcut after making the change to it,  
clicking on it, you are still taken to:

http://www.amazon.com/?_encoding=UTF8ref_=mw_access

I don't know anything about HTML coding but, it doesn't look like a direct 
desktop shortcut can be made to Amazon's access website.  Hopefully someone 
will figure out a way to do it because I would like to have it as well. 
What I do is open the Run Dialog  type;

www.amazon.com/access

 press enter to take me directly to the site.

Sorry I couldn't have provided more positive information.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iGoDodgersBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: Neil Towery
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 3:18 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com/access on desktop


Hello Folks:

Wow, y'all know a bunch. Most of it is over my head. But, I do have a
question.

 I followed the instructions to put google.com on the desktop. Cool.

 Amazon.com/access is good for screen readers, because it eliminates many
links. So, I followed the same method used to put google on the desktop.

 It worked, but it put the full amazon.com site on the desktop rather than
amazon.com/access

Any suggestions on how to get amazon.com/access on the desktop rather than
amazon.com?

Thanks. Neil



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[JAWS-Users] Amazon.com/access on desktop

2015-05-08 Thread Neil Towery
Hello Folks:

Wow, y'all know a bunch. Most of it is over my head. But, I do have a
question. 

 I followed the instructions to put google.com on the desktop. Cool. 

 Amazon.com/access is good for screen readers, because it eliminates many
links. So, I followed the same method used to put google on the desktop. 

 It worked, but it put the full amazon.com site on the desktop rather than
amazon.com/access

Any suggestions on how to get amazon.com/access on the desktop rather than
amazon.com? 

Thanks. Neil 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2009-04-05 Thread RJ
www.amazon.com/access Than use the search to find what you are looking for. 
Add to cart and follow the prompts.

RJ
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Has anyone on this list found any tricks to make Amazon.com any more user 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2009-04-05 Thread RJ

Sorry about this. Open a old message
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www.amazon.com/access Than use the search to find what you are looking 
for. Add to cart and follow the prompts.

RJ
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2009-03-29 Thread jo luland
I definitely agree. In addition, several times, I was unable to check out on 
the access page so I was forced to go to the regular page anyway. Since 
then, I only use it to search for what I want and go back to the regular 
page to purchase it.

Jo
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There are a couple of things I do not like about Amazon's accessible site, 
though.  There is no log out button that I can find.  Also, you seem to 
not get the more detailed information and descriptions about the products 
you are shopping for.  It seems to be so scaled down that it loses a lot 
of good info.  Anybody else agree?

Tom
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No, I didn't know about it.  I'll give it a try.  Thanks very much!
Vicky
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have you tried their screen reader friendly site, www.amazon.com/access

Andy


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2009-03-29 Thread Marilyn Walker
It was a Stouffer veal parmigiana witih a veggie.  Certainly not worth 19 
bucks but still a good story.  I keep wondering what the Gristede Brothers 
clerk must have been thinking, packing and sending such a thing to Illinois! 
I'm laughing again.  marilyn 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2009-03-27 Thread Thomas Sagar
There are a couple of things I do not like about Amazon's accessible site, 
though.  There is no log out button that I can find.  Also, you seem to not 
get the more detailed information and descriptions about the products you 
are shopping for.  It seems to be so scaled down that it loses a lot of good 
info.  Anybody else agree?

Tom
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No, I didn't know about it.  I'll give it a try.  Thanks very much!
Vicky
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have you tried their screen reader friendly site, www.amazon.com/access

Andy


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2009-03-27 Thread Marilyn Walker
Tom, I agree, but I usually know exactly what I want--brand, etc. so I 
appreciate getting to it quickly.  I do give amazon credit for trying to 
help, though.  As an aside, I wish jcpenney had as good a site.  marilyn 


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[JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2009-03-26 Thread Victoria Vaughan
Has anyone on this list found any tricks to make Amazon.com any more user 
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I am using JAWS 10, XP professional service Pac 3 and Internet 7.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2009-03-26 Thread Maria Campbell
I just purchased a book on Amazon yesterday without much difficulty.  The 
problem is that there is simply too much propaganda on there trying to get 
you to buy stuff you don't need or want.



Sunny Day
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Wherever we are, God is, and all is well.'


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2009-03-26 Thread Baracco, Andrew W
have you tried their screen reader friendly site, www.amazon.com/access

Andy
 

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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Has anyone on this list found any tricks to make Amazon.com any more
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2009-03-26 Thread Francis E. Khan
When I want to use the Amazon website I type the following
www.amozon.com/access
and I can browse or place an order.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2009-03-26 Thread Baracco, Andrew W
They're not alone in that regard.  BUY.COM does the same thing, and you
have to be careful to find the right buttons for checkout, place order,
etc.  or you may end up with a subscription to a magazine, credit card,
or other merchandise that you do not want, along with a higher bill, of
course.

Andy
 

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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

I just purchased a book on Amazon yesterday without much difficulty.
The problem is that there is simply too much propaganda on there trying
to get you to buy stuff you don't need or want.


Sunny Day
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 Has anyone on this list found any tricks to make Amazon.com any more
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 I am using JAWS 10, XP professional service Pac 3 and Internet 7.

 Thanks for any suggestions!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2009-03-26 Thread Erin Pruitt
I have had similar problems with Amazon and have switched to Barnes and Noble.  
Their site is a little less cluttered and it seems easier to check out without 
inadvertently buying something you 
didn't want.
Erin
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They're not alone in that regard.  BUY.COM does the same thing, and you
have to be careful to find the right buttons for checkout, place order,
etc.  or you may end up with a subscription to a magazine, credit card,
or other merchandise that you do not want, along with a higher bill, of
course.

Andy
 

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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

I just purchased a book on Amazon yesterday without much difficulty.
The problem is that there is simply too much propaganda on there trying
to get you to buy stuff you don't need or want.


Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@sbcglobal.net

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The love of God enfolds us.
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com


 Has anyone on this list found any tricks to make Amazon.com any more
user 
 friendly?  I find it very difficult.
 I am using JAWS 10, XP professional service Pac 3 and Internet 7.

 Thanks for any suggestions!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2009-03-26 Thread Mark
Hi 
 So far I have been blessed with good luck at Amazon.com. They have a good 
selection of downloadable music.

God bless,
Mark
-- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon Mostly 
Clear, 39.0°F Wind:WNW-300° a 
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From: Erin Pruitt erin.pru...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com


I have had similar problems with Amazon and have switched to Barnes and Noble.  
Their site is a little less cluttered and it seems easier to check out without 
inadvertently buying something you 
didn't want.
Erin
- Original Message - 
From: Baracco, Andrew W andrew.bara...@va.gov
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com


They're not alone in that regard.  BUY.COM does the same thing, and you
have to be careful to find the right buttons for checkout, place order,
etc.  or you may end up with a subscription to a magazine, credit card,
or other merchandise that you do not want, along with a higher bill, of
course.

Andy
 

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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Maria
Campbell
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

I just purchased a book on Amazon yesterday without much difficulty.
The problem is that there is simply too much propaganda on there trying
to get you to buy stuff you don't need or want.


Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@sbcglobal.net

The light of God surrounds us.
The love of God enfolds us.
The power of God protects us.
The presence of God watches over us.
Wherever we are, God is, and all is well.'


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From: Victoria Vaughan vrvaug...@mailzone.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:14 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com


 Has anyone on this list found any tricks to make Amazon.com any more
user 
 friendly?  I find it very difficult.
 I am using JAWS 10, XP professional service Pac 3 and Internet 7.

 Thanks for any suggestions!

 Vicky
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2009-03-26 Thread Marilyn Walker
Victoria, you're correct that the Amazon site that everyone uses is 
difficult in that it is so cluttered that it takes ages to find what you 
really want.  There is, however, a version that is blind friendly and even 
sighted people like it.  Go to www.amazon.com/access  for this easily 
navigated version.  marilyn 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

2009-03-26 Thread Victoria Vaughan

No, I didn't know about it.  I'll give it a try.  Thanks very much!
Vicky
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have you tried their screen reader friendly site, www.amazon.com/access

Andy


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Has anyone on this list found any tricks to make Amazon.com any more
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