Re: [JAWS-Users] need help from the general membership

[Steve]

I have the same issue; I can reply to messages, but none of the ones I 
originate will go through.



- Original Message - 
From: "Humberto Rodriguez" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2018 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help from the general membership



Hello David:

My ISP is Windstream and I receive the list messages OK, my problem is the
other way around, often when I write to the list, but not everytime, it 
says

it cannot be delivered without giving a reason.

Humberto



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf 
Of

David Ferrin
Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 5:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help from the general membership

The following domains are currently blocking messages from this domain
refusing delivery. There are 3 at this time but my memory is only giving 
me

2 right off hand. I am sure Mike will come up with the third.

Never the less the point to this message subscribers using:

sbcglobal.net
or
bellsouth.net

are not receiving anything from this domain, both list traffic and also
personal correspondence.

If any of you out there can help by contacting any such list members and
explaining the problem we would appreciate it.

They in turn need to call their ISPs to find out what they can on that 
end.


We have lost a lot of good members over the years because of stuff like
this.

David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help from the general membership

[Humberto Rodriguez]

Hello David:

My ISP is Windstream and I receive the list messages OK, my problem is the
other way around, often when I write to the list, but not everytime, it says
it cannot be delivered without giving a reason.

Humberto



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
David Ferrin
Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 5:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help from the general membership

The following domains are currently blocking messages from this domain
refusing delivery. There are 3 at this time but my memory is only giving me
2 right off hand. I am sure Mike will come up with the third. 

Never the less the point to this message subscribers using:

sbcglobal.net
or
bellsouth.net

are not receiving anything from this domain, both list traffic and also
personal correspondence. 

If any of you out there can help by contacting any such list members and
explaining the problem we would appreciate it. 

They in turn need to call their ISPs to find out what they can on that end. 

We have lost a lot of good members over the years because of stuff like
this. 

David Ferrin
A clear conscience is normally the result of a failing memory.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help from the general membership

[David Ferrin]

We got them covered, Rick had it even if you would not have.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 6:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help from the general membership

Hi David,

I can't be sure, but I think the 3rd domain was:
@att.net
Take Care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2018 2:54 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help from the general membership


The following domains are currently blocking messages from this domain
refusing delivery. There are 3 at this time but my memory is only giving me
2 right off hand. I am sure Mike will come up with the third.

Never the less the point to this message subscribers using:

sbcglobal.net
or
bellsouth.net

are not receiving anything from this domain, both list traffic and also
personal correspondence.

If any of you out there can help by contacting any such list members and
explaining the problem we would appreciate it.

They in turn need to call their ISPs to find out what they can on that end.

We have lost a lot of good members over the years because of stuff like
this.

David Ferrin
A clear conscience is normally the result of a failing memory.
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For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help from the general membership

[Moderator]

AT, Bellsouth and sbcglobal
All under the AT umbrella.

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2018 5:54 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help from the general membership


The following domains are currently blocking messages from this domain 
refusing delivery. There are 3 at this time but my memory is only giving me 
2 right off hand. I am sure Mike will come up with the third.

Never the less the point to this message subscribers using:

sbcglobal.net
or
bellsouth.net

are not receiving anything from this domain, both list traffic and also 
personal correspondence.

If any of you out there can help by contacting any such list members and 
explaining the problem we would appreciate it.

They in turn need to call their ISPs to find out what they can on that end.

We have lost a lot of good members over the years because of stuff like 
this.

David Ferrin
A clear conscience is normally the result of a failing memory.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help from the general membership

[Mike B.]

Hi David,

I can't be sure, but I think the 3rd domain was:
@att.net
Take Care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2018 2:54 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help from the general membership


The following domains are currently blocking messages from this domain 
refusing delivery. There are 3 at this time but my memory is only giving me 
2 right off hand. I am sure Mike will come up with the third.

Never the less the point to this message subscribers using:

sbcglobal.net
or
bellsouth.net

are not receiving anything from this domain, both list traffic and also 
personal correspondence.

If any of you out there can help by contacting any such list members and 
explaining the problem we would appreciate it.

They in turn need to call their ISPs to find out what they can on that end.

We have lost a lot of good members over the years because of stuff like 
this.

David Ferrin
A clear conscience is normally the result of a failing memory.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

[JAWS-Users] need help from the general membership

[David Ferrin]

The following domains are currently blocking messages from this domain refusing 
delivery. There are 3 at this time but my memory is only giving me 2 right off 
hand. I am sure Mike will come up with the third. 

Never the less the point to this message subscribers using:

sbcglobal.net
or
bellsouth.net

are not receiving anything from this domain, both list traffic and also 
personal correspondence. 

If any of you out there can help by contacting any such list members and 
explaining the problem we would appreciate it. 

They in turn need to call their ISPs to find out what they can on that end. 

We have lost a lot of good members over the years because of stuff like this. 

David Ferrin
A clear conscience is normally the result of a failing memory.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help in understanding jaws any books or tutorials, , out there?

[chris judge]

Hi Susan. I'm glad you got this sorted out. I've been dealing with Cathy Ann
Murtha for years, and have purchased many of her resources. I might have
some more helpful resources for you. If interested, write me off list.
chrisjud...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Susan Ward
Sent: March 17, 2018 9:51 PM
To: jaws users <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help in understanding jaws any books or
tutorials, , out there?

Hello. I actually got the book on a thumb drive yesterday  and I did email
Cathy who did put the book together and will check it out during the week
and she did resend a new link and the download did work so just thought I
would give everyone the update. Thanks for all of the suggestions. Oh
another thing when are they going to get the audio ducking fixed? I would
really love to have this feature cause it drives me crazy when listening to
music in a web page with no controls to raise or lower the volume. I know in
NVDA it works which is really nice. That would be a huge improvement if the
people who work on that to please to keep that in mind. Thank you.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help in understanding jaws any books or tutorials, , out there?

[Susan Ward]

Hello. I actually got the book on a thumb drive yesterday  and I did 
email Cathy who did put the book together and will check it out during 
the week and she did resend a new link and the download did work so just 
thought I would give everyone the update. Thanks for all of the 
suggestions. Oh another thing when are they going to get the audio 
ducking fixed? I would really love to have this feature cause it drives 
me crazy when listening to music in a web page with no controls to raise 
or lower the volume. I know in NVDA it works which is really nice. That 
would be a huge improvement if the people who work on that to please to 
keep that in mind. Thank you.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help in understanding jaws any books or tutorials, out there?

[chris judge]

If you have a problem with your download, contact Cathy Ann. I'm sure she
will resolve it. I've been purchasing material from her for years now, and
have had nothing but positive experiences.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Susan Ward
Sent: March 16, 2018 3:54 PM
To: jaws users <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help in understanding jaws any books or
tutorials, out there?

  Hello. Well no such luck, I did buy the book from access technology
institute and did not see anything after I downloaded the file cause when I
went to extract the file it had nothing inside. I did buy Emerging in to
Jaws 2018 and was reading once you make the purchase which I did through pay
pal no refunds and it was 94.99. If anyone has a copy could you email it to
me as an attachment just don't like getting ripped off like this. I did look
on the freedom scientific website and the training material they want you to
purchase am not going to do it since it is 750 dollars on an SD card, and I
did not know about anything about access technology institute, so if
anything could use some help here. I mainly want the jaws book only, am not
interested in Office. 
Thank you.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help in understanding jaws any books or tutorials, out there?

[Adrian Spratt]

Susan,

The name of the woman behind ATI is CathyAnne Murtha. If you do a Google search 
for the company name and hers, you should find an email link for her. In fact, 
there's one on the ATI website from which you made your purchase. She's no 
rip-off artist, so contact her and explain the problem.

As for VFO, they offer some training that is free and some that requires 
payment. Again, go to the help part of the JAWS file menu for free materials.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Susan Ward
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 2:54 PM
To: jaws users <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help in understanding jaws any books or 
tutorials, out there?

  Hello. Well no such luck, I did buy the book from access technology institute 
and did not see anything after I downloaded the file cause when I went to 
extract the file it had nothing inside. I did buy Emerging in to Jaws 2018 and 
was reading once you make the purchase which I did through pay pal no refunds 
and it was 94.99. If anyone has a copy could you email it to me as an 
attachment just don't like getting ripped off like this. I did look on the 
freedom scientific website and the training material they want you to purchase 
am not going to do it since it is 750 dollars on an SD card, and I did not know 
about anything about access technology institute, so if anything could use some 
help here. I mainly want the jaws book only, am not interested in Office. 
Thank you.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help in understanding jaws any books or tutorials, out there?

[Susan Ward]

 Hello. Well no such luck, I did buy the book from access technology 
institute and did not see anything after I downloaded the file cause 
when I went to extract the file it had nothing inside. I did buy 
Emerging in to Jaws 2018 and was reading once you make the purchase 
which I did through pay pal no refunds and it was 94.99. If anyone has a 
copy could you email it to me as an attachment just don't like getting 
ripped off like this. I did look on the freedom scientific website and 
the training material they want you to purchase am not going to do it 
since it is 750 dollars on an SD card, and I did not know about anything 
about access technology institute, so if anything could use some help 
here. I mainly want the jaws book only, am not interested in Office. 
Thank you.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help in understanding jaws any books or tutorials out there?

[chris judge]

Hi. If you install jaws you will get all of the training material under the
help menu. It's presented in Daisy format. Jaws has it's own daisy player,
FS reader, which works well.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Susan Ward
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 10:57 AM
To: jaws users <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help in understanding jaws any books or tutorials
out there?

  Hello I was wondering if there any books or tutorials of jaws that are
current so I can understand it better. I did come across this one book from
the access technology institute and the book does cover jaws and is
95 dollars and is on Jaws 2018, does anyone know if its well worth the money
cause was reading about it and they walk through every setting and with the
book you get all text and audio formats to help you out. I am coming from
Window Eyes and use NVDA that is also a good screen reader so just wondering
what other people think. Thank you.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help in understanding jaws any books or tutorials out there?

[Orlando Enrique Fiol]

Hi Sue. I definitely recognize your name from the GWMicro lists we 
both were on for the past twenty years. Needless to say, I'm a 
proficient Window-eyes user who read the proverbial writing on the 
wall and migrated to Jaws. While I'm nowhere near as deeply involved 
with Jaws as I was with Window-eyes, I can do all my computer work 
without much trouble. How advanced of a Window-eyes user are you? Did 
you ever write your own setfiles or at least install Window-eyes 
apps? I'm just trying to get a sense of where you're coming from. 
Raul Gallegos, whom you surely remember from his stint at GWMicro, 
has created some written and audio Jaws tutorials that I think cover 
many basics.
In any case, I'm available to answer any specific questions or just 
to empathize while you transition to Jaws. Don't hesitate to keep in touch.


Orlando Enrique Fiol
Ph.D. Candidate in Music Theory
University of Pennsylvania
Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist, Arranger, Performer 
and Pedagogue

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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help in understanding jaws any books or tutorials out there?

[Adrian Spratt]

Susan,

I have used ATI's textbooks for Office 2010 with JAWS and most recently word 
2016 with JAWS. The books are not perfect, but they are pretty comprehensive, 
which is nice to have in one place. Where they omit information or where the 
advice given is debatable, you can always post specific questions here and 
elsewhere. 

Rick recommends the free JAWS training materials you can find via the JAWS help 
menu. I agree with him that Dan Clark does a good job. If you have difficulty 
navigating this area of the JAWS menu, please post again.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Susan Ward
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 9:57 AM
To: jaws users <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help in understanding jaws any books or tutorials 
out there?

  Hello I was wondering if there any books or tutorials of jaws that are 
current so I can understand it better. I did come across this one book from the 
access technology institute and the book does cover jaws and is
95 dollars and is on Jaws 2018, does anyone know if its well worth the money 
cause was reading about it and they walk through every setting and with the 
book you get all text and audio formats to help you out. I am coming from 
Window Eyes and use NVDA that is also a good screen reader so just wondering 
what other people think. Thank you.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help in understanding jaws any books or tutorials out there?

[Rick Justice]

Hi Susan,
Personally, before I spent any money, I would download the free training 
material for Jaws.
You can get the training material in Daisy format, and Dan Clark, in the 
training department, does an excellent job of walking
you through the different aspects of Jaws.
You can access this info by going to the "Help" menu in Jaws


HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message - 

From: "Susan Ward" <groov...@juno.com>
To: "jaws users" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 9:56 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help in understanding jaws any books or tutorials 
out there?


  Hello I was wondering if there any books or tutorials of jaws that are
current so I can understand it better. I did come across this one book
from the access technology institute and the book does cover jaws and is
95 dollars and is on Jaws 2018, does anyone know if its well worth the
money cause was reading about it and they walk through every setting and
with the book you get all text and audio formats to help you out. I am
coming from Window Eyes and use NVDA that is also a good screen reader
so just wondering what other people think. Thank you.

1 Simple Trick Removes Eye Bags & Lip Lines In Seconds
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[JAWS-Users] need help in understanding jaws any books or tutorials out there?

[Susan Ward]

 Hello I was wondering if there any books or tutorials of jaws that are 
current so I can understand it better. I did come across this one book 
from the access technology institute and the book does cover jaws and is 
95 dollars and is on Jaws 2018, does anyone know if its well worth the 
money cause was reading about it and they walk through every setting and 
with the book you get all text and audio formats to help you out. I am 
coming from Window Eyes and use NVDA that is also a good screen reader 
so just wondering what other people think. Thank you.


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[JAWS-Users] need help using jaws tandem

[Mike Bernard]

Hi everyone,
I'm helping someone to solve a minor problem and I'm using Jaws Tandem to
gain access to their computer. However, at the point where I'm supposed to
receive the special code to which I have to give the other person so that
they can create the connection, I keep getting an error message that says,
"Meeting not allowed. The cereal number is not allowed to connect. Please
contact customer service for assistance." This is the first time that either
of us have ever tried using Jaws tandem so we're not all that familiar with
it. Have any of you ever received this error message when trying to connect
to someone's computer via tandem? Why is jaws giving me this message? Any
help would greatly be appreciated. Thanks.
Mike  
 
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help installing jaws dimmo 18 to windows 8 64 bit

[Mike B.]

Hi Amber,

What kind of help do you need?
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Amber Gilmore
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 2:47 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need help installing jaws dimmo 18 to windows 8 64 bit




Sent from my iPhone. My computer died and a sited friend let me use a laptop 
i can install in earlier versions of windows but 8 is giving me problems, 
can i get some help please, thanks,  amber
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[JAWS-Users] Need help installing jaws dimmo 18 to windows 8 64 bit

[Amber Gilmore]

Sent from my iPhone. My computer died and a sited friend let me use a laptop i 
can install in earlier versions of windows but 8 is giving me problems, can i 
get some help please, thanks,  amber
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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

[Judy Jones]

Thanks very much.  Is quite a coincidence that her name is also Judy Jones.
I am in Twin Falls, Idaho.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 11:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

My apologies, it stands to reason that there would be multiple Judys on a
list this size.

-Original Message-
From: Judy Jones
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 9:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

Yes, this is my e-mail address, but is the only one.

I did notice there is another Judy on this list.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 5:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

Thank you, I'll try it out right now. She must have a couple of addresses
like many of us.

-Original Message-
From: David Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 7:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

Hello;
I believe Judy Jones has sent in test messages using the following email
address.

Judy Jones sonshine...@gmail.com


   Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 7:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

I know this is a rather odd request, but for some reason SBC Global is
blocking out this domain as far as I am aware at least.

The problem is Judy Jones is not receiving list mail and wrote to me
privately for help, but when I wrote back her ISP rejected my message.

So if anybody out there knows her please let her know what is going on. Her
email address is:

bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net

This happens quite often as this domain generates a large amount of email
and some times gets flagged as a source of Spam. Thank you to who ever does
this.

People have to contact their ISPs and explain the problem although many of
them simply deny that they are doing such a thing. A large number of list
subscribers have gone to GMail or other web based email services. So thanks
again in advance.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

[Kevin]

I only have one email address on this list, guess I'm special!

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin 
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 4:59 AM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member 

Thank you, I'll try it out right now. She must have a couple of addresses 
like many of us.


-Original Message- 
From: David Whitehead

Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 7:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

Hello;
I believe Judy Jones has sent in test messages using the following email
address.

Judy Jones sonshine...@gmail.com


  Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 7:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

I know this is a rather odd request, but for some reason SBC Global is
blocking out this domain as far as I am aware at least.

The problem is Judy Jones is not receiving list mail and wrote to me
privately for help, but when I wrote back her ISP rejected my message.

So if anybody out there knows her please let her know what is going on. Her
email address is:

bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net

This happens quite often as this domain generates a large amount of email
and some times gets flagged as a source of Spam. Thank you to who ever does
this.

People have to contact their ISPs and explain the problem although many of
them simply deny that they are doing such a thing. A large number of list
subscribers have gone to GMail or other web based email services. So thanks
again in advance.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

[David Ferrin]

It isn't like we keep a running account of all list members, no apology 
required. They both have the same name, ever been wrong it has happened to 
me.


-Original Message- 
From: David Whitehead

Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 11:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

Mr. David Ferrin,
Sorry, I caused somewhat of an issue.
I didn't realize that there are 2 Judy Jone's on the list,

One is a gmail address, the other a SBC Global
Sorry for the mix up.

  Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 10:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

Hi, David,

I know I do not have the perfect memory, but I do not remember contacting
you.  I am getting list messages.

If you can send me a copy of that message, that should jog my memory, if, in
fact, I did write you.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 5:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

I know this is a rather odd request, but for some reason SBC Global is
blocking out this domain as far as I am aware at least.

The problem is Judy Jones is not receiving list mail and wrote to me
privately for help, but when I wrote back her ISP rejected my message.

So if anybody out there knows her please let her know what is going on. Her
email address is:

bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net

This happens quite often as this domain generates a large amount of email
and some times gets flagged as a source of Spam. Thank you to who ever does
this.

People have to contact their ISPs and explain the problem although many of
them simply deny that they are doing such a thing. A large number of list
subscribers have gone to GMail or other web based email services. So thanks
again in advance.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

[David Ferrin]

The member in question has a SBC global address.

-Original Message- 
From: Judy Jones 
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 10:10 AM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member 


No, this is not Judy Jones.  There is another Judy on the list.  The e-mail
below is not mine.  Mine is sonshine...@gmail.com

Judy
Jones

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of REGilman
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 6:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

Your welcome.
Bob

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 7:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

I know this is a rather odd request, but for some reason SBC Global is
blocking out this domain as far as I am aware at least. 


The problem is Judy Jones is not receiving list mail and wrote to me
privately for help, but when I wrote back her ISP rejected my message. 


So if anybody out there knows her please let her know what is going on. Her
email address is:

bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net

This happens quite often as this domain generates a large amount of email
and some times gets flagged as a source of Spam. Thank you to who ever does
this. 


People have to contact their ISPs and explain the problem although many of
them simply deny that they are doing such a thing. A large number of list
subscribers have gone to GMail or other web based email services. So thanks
again in advance.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

[David Ferrin]

My apologies, it stands to reason that there would be multiple Judys on a 
list this size.


-Original Message- 
From: Judy Jones

Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 9:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

Yes, this is my e-mail address, but is the only one.

I did notice there is another Judy on this list.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 5:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

Thank you, I'll try it out right now. She must have a couple of addresses
like many of us.

-Original Message-
From: David Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 7:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

Hello;
I believe Judy Jones has sent in test messages using the following email
address.

Judy Jones sonshine...@gmail.com


  Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 7:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

I know this is a rather odd request, but for some reason SBC Global is
blocking out this domain as far as I am aware at least.

The problem is Judy Jones is not receiving list mail and wrote to me
privately for help, but when I wrote back her ISP rejected my message.

So if anybody out there knows her please let her know what is going on. Her
email address is:

bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net

This happens quite often as this domain generates a large amount of email
and some times gets flagged as a source of Spam. Thank you to who ever does
this.

People have to contact their ISPs and explain the problem although many of
them simply deny that they are doing such a thing. A large number of list
subscribers have gone to GMail or other web based email services. So thanks
again in advance.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

[Judy Jones]

Okay, great!

Judy Jones

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of REGilman
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 8:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

Right,
I emailed the other Judy in question.
Thanks,
Bob 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 10:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

No, this is not Judy Jones.  There is another Judy on the list.  The e-mail
below is not mine.  Mine is sonshine...@gmail.com

Judy
Jones

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of REGilman
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 6:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

Your welcome.
Bob

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 7:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

I know this is a rather odd request, but for some reason SBC Global is
blocking out this domain as far as I am aware at least. 

The problem is Judy Jones is not receiving list mail and wrote to me
privately for help, but when I wrote back her ISP rejected my message. 

So if anybody out there knows her please let her know what is going on. Her
email address is:

bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net

This happens quite often as this domain generates a large amount of email
and some times gets flagged as a source of Spam. Thank you to who ever does
this. 

People have to contact their ISPs and explain the problem although many of
them simply deny that they are doing such a thing. A large number of list
subscribers have gone to GMail or other web based email services. So thanks
again in advance.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

[David Whitehead]

Mr. David Ferrin,
Sorry, I caused somewhat of an issue.
I didn't realize that there are 2 Judy Jone's on the list,

One is a gmail address, the other a SBC Global
Sorry for the mix up.

       Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 10:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

Hi, David,

I know I do not have the perfect memory, but I do not remember contacting
you.  I am getting list messages.

If you can send me a copy of that message, that should jog my memory, if, in
fact, I did write you.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 5:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

I know this is a rather odd request, but for some reason SBC Global is
blocking out this domain as far as I am aware at least. 

The problem is Judy Jones is not receiving list mail and wrote to me
privately for help, but when I wrote back her ISP rejected my message. 

So if anybody out there knows her please let her know what is going on. Her
email address is:

bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net

This happens quite often as this domain generates a large amount of email
and some times gets flagged as a source of Spam. Thank you to who ever does
this. 

People have to contact their ISPs and explain the problem although many of
them simply deny that they are doing such a thing. A large number of list
subscribers have gone to GMail or other web based email services. So thanks
again in advance.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

[REGilman]

Right, 
I emailed the other Judy in question.
Thanks,
Bob 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 10:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

No, this is not Judy Jones.  There is another Judy on the list.  The e-mail
below is not mine.  Mine is sonshine...@gmail.com

Judy
Jones

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of REGilman
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 6:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

Your welcome.
Bob

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 7:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

I know this is a rather odd request, but for some reason SBC Global is
blocking out this domain as far as I am aware at least. 

The problem is Judy Jones is not receiving list mail and wrote to me
privately for help, but when I wrote back her ISP rejected my message. 

So if anybody out there knows her please let her know what is going on. Her
email address is:

bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net

This happens quite often as this domain generates a large amount of email
and some times gets flagged as a source of Spam. Thank you to who ever does
this. 

People have to contact their ISPs and explain the problem although many of
them simply deny that they are doing such a thing. A large number of list
subscribers have gone to GMail or other web based email services. So thanks
again in advance.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

[Judy Jones]

No, this is not Judy Jones.  There is another Judy on the list.  The e-mail
below is not mine.  Mine is sonshine...@gmail.com

Judy
Jones

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of REGilman
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 6:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

Your welcome.
Bob

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 7:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

I know this is a rather odd request, but for some reason SBC Global is
blocking out this domain as far as I am aware at least. 

The problem is Judy Jones is not receiving list mail and wrote to me
privately for help, but when I wrote back her ISP rejected my message. 

So if anybody out there knows her please let her know what is going on. Her
email address is:

bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net

This happens quite often as this domain generates a large amount of email
and some times gets flagged as a source of Spam. Thank you to who ever does
this. 

People have to contact their ISPs and explain the problem although many of
them simply deny that they are doing such a thing. A large number of list
subscribers have gone to GMail or other web based email services. So thanks
again in advance.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

[Judy Jones]

Hi, David,

I know I do not have the perfect memory, but I do not remember contacting
you.  I am getting list messages.

If you can send me a copy of that message, that should jog my memory, if, in
fact, I did write you.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 5:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

I know this is a rather odd request, but for some reason SBC Global is
blocking out this domain as far as I am aware at least. 

The problem is Judy Jones is not receiving list mail and wrote to me
privately for help, but when I wrote back her ISP rejected my message. 

So if anybody out there knows her please let her know what is going on. Her
email address is:

bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net

This happens quite often as this domain generates a large amount of email
and some times gets flagged as a source of Spam. Thank you to who ever does
this. 

People have to contact their ISPs and explain the problem although many of
them simply deny that they are doing such a thing. A large number of list
subscribers have gone to GMail or other web based email services. So thanks
again in advance.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

[Judy Jones]

I have not sent test messages, but did respond to a test message.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 5:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

Hello;
I believe Judy Jones has sent in test messages using the following email
address.

Judy Jones sonshine...@gmail.com


       Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 7:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

I know this is a rather odd request, but for some reason SBC Global is
blocking out this domain as far as I am aware at least. 

The problem is Judy Jones is not receiving list mail and wrote to me
privately for help, but when I wrote back her ISP rejected my message. 

So if anybody out there knows her please let her know what is going on. Her
email address is:

bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net

This happens quite often as this domain generates a large amount of email
and some times gets flagged as a source of Spam. Thank you to who ever does
this. 

People have to contact their ISPs and explain the problem although many of
them simply deny that they are doing such a thing. A large number of list
subscribers have gone to GMail or other web based email services. So thanks
again in advance.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

[Judy Jones]

Yes, this is my e-mail address, but is the only one.

I did notice there is another Judy on this list.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 5:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

Thank you, I'll try it out right now. She must have a couple of addresses
like many of us.

-Original Message-
From: David Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 7:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

Hello;
I believe Judy Jones has sent in test messages using the following email
address.

Judy Jones sonshine...@gmail.com


   Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 7:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

I know this is a rather odd request, but for some reason SBC Global is
blocking out this domain as far as I am aware at least.

The problem is Judy Jones is not receiving list mail and wrote to me
privately for help, but when I wrote back her ISP rejected my message.

So if anybody out there knows her please let her know what is going on. Her
email address is:

bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net

This happens quite often as this domain generates a large amount of email
and some times gets flagged as a source of Spam. Thank you to who ever does
this.

People have to contact their ISPs and explain the problem although many of
them simply deny that they are doing such a thing. A large number of list
subscribers have gone to GMail or other web based email services. So thanks
again in advance.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

[REGilman]

Your welcome.
Bob

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 7:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

I know this is a rather odd request, but for some reason SBC Global is
blocking out this domain as far as I am aware at least. 

The problem is Judy Jones is not receiving list mail and wrote to me
privately for help, but when I wrote back her ISP rejected my message. 

So if anybody out there knows her please let her know what is going on. Her
email address is:

bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net

This happens quite often as this domain generates a large amount of email
and some times gets flagged as a source of Spam. Thank you to who ever does
this. 

People have to contact their ISPs and explain the problem although many of
them simply deny that they are doing such a thing. A large number of list
subscribers have gone to GMail or other web based email services. So thanks
again in advance.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

[David Ferrin]

Thank you, I'll try it out right now. She must have a couple of addresses 
like many of us.


-Original Message- 
From: David Whitehead

Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 7:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

Hello;
I believe Judy Jones has sent in test messages using the following email
address.

Judy Jones sonshine...@gmail.com


  Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 7:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

I know this is a rather odd request, but for some reason SBC Global is
blocking out this domain as far as I am aware at least.

The problem is Judy Jones is not receiving list mail and wrote to me
privately for help, but when I wrote back her ISP rejected my message.

So if anybody out there knows her please let her know what is going on. Her
email address is:

bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net

This happens quite often as this domain generates a large amount of email
and some times gets flagged as a source of Spam. Thank you to who ever does
this.

People have to contact their ISPs and explain the problem although many of
them simply deny that they are doing such a thing. A large number of list
subscribers have gone to GMail or other web based email services. So thanks
again in advance.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

[David Whitehead]

Hello;
I believe Judy Jones has sent in test messages using the following email
address.

Judy Jones sonshine...@gmail.com


       Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 7:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

I know this is a rather odd request, but for some reason SBC Global is
blocking out this domain as far as I am aware at least. 

The problem is Judy Jones is not receiving list mail and wrote to me
privately for help, but when I wrote back her ISP rejected my message. 

So if anybody out there knows her please let her know what is going on. Her
email address is:

bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net

This happens quite often as this domain generates a large amount of email
and some times gets flagged as a source of Spam. Thank you to who ever does
this. 

People have to contact their ISPs and explain the problem although many of
them simply deny that they are doing such a thing. A large number of list
subscribers have gone to GMail or other web based email services. So thanks
again in advance.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

[JAWS-Users] need help contacting a list member

[David Ferrin]

I know this is a rather odd request, but for some reason SBC Global is blocking 
out this domain as far as I am aware at least. 

The problem is Judy Jones is not receiving list mail and wrote to me privately 
for help, but when I wrote back her ISP rejected my message. 

So if anybody out there knows her please let her know what is going on. Her 
email address is:

bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net

This happens quite often as this domain generates a large amount of email and 
some times gets flagged as a source of Spam. Thank you to who ever does this. 

People have to contact their ISPs and explain the problem although many of them 
simply deny that they are doing such a thing. A large number of list 
subscribers have gone to GMail or other web based email services. So thanks 
again in advance.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC

[Tom Fairhurst]

All I can say is that sometimes, reading a document by page may be 
preferable, as loading a large document can take time and may be sluggish. 
You can move page by page, or go to a specific page in the document. 
Changing the web setting is definitely preferable.


-Original Message- 
From: Audiobookfan

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 4:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC

Thanks to everyone who responded. I did get the solution in a private
email. Here's what worked:

Click the accessibility setup assistant. In the setup assistant do the
following: click next until you find read single page... set this to
read entire document. then click next until you see open in web browser
and uncheck it. then click next and finally finish.

Both of these items needed adjustment. The values above were not the
defaults.

I can now read my document, but it did take quite a while to load the
document. It's over 100 pages. Then, as I arrowed down through the
document, it seemed a little sluggish. Not snappy like reading a web
page or text document in Notepad. Is this normal for a PDF document?

Thanks,
Jeff

On 6/15/2017 3:03 AM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
I've just located David Whitehead's instructions for making Adobe Reader X 
accessible. I can't be sure, but I think they also apply to Adobe DC. I'll 
copy them below. But first, a friend wrote the following off-list:


One note on your suggestion: If you do get that dialog (when Adobe opens a 
PDF file) and check to use the current settings for the future, the choice 
will not be presented the next time. Or at least that's what I get with 
Adobe Acrobat.


Now to David Whitehead's instructions:
1, Open adobe,
2, press ctrl+k (preferences),
3, now press the letter "g"'general,
4, now tab and Uncheck, Enable Protected Mode at startup.
You need to change another setting so, tab until you have General 
highlighted again.
5. With General highlighted, press the letter I, until you have Internet 
highlighted.
6. Tab to, Display PDF in browser, if this box is checked press the 
spacebar to uncheck it.
7. Tab to the okay button, press enter to close preferences & save your 
changes, & press Alt + F4 to close Adobe.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Jorge Rivas

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 12:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC

Hey,
Teacher Mr. Adrian, thanks, I need to do this to my new machine, that 
flies like a butterfly and stings like a bee!

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 12:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC

Yes, JAWS's convenient OCR is probably the simplest way of handling this 
problem. but I'm wondering why nothing was spoken. Typically, I get an 
Adobe dialog asking how I want the PDF file made readable. I click on my 
choice and wait. Sometimes the document is read, sometimes I'm told it's 
"blank."


Jeff, did you set up Adobe Reader for accessibility? If not, open 
Adobe/Acrobat and press control-k. JAWS will verbalize "Accessibility" 
right away. Go from there.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Jared Rimer

Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 11:40 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC

You can also do d for document which would work for those image documents.

On 6/14/2017 19:17, Steve wrote:

You may have one of those lovely image pdf files that Adobe can't
convert to text.
Try the Jaws convenient OCR Insert-space, then O, then W for Window or
S for screen or C for image.

- Original Message - From: "Audiobookfan"
<listening...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:53 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC



Based on a suggestion from the Win10 list, I just installed Adobe
Reader DC on my Windows 10 (1703) computer. I'm using JAWS 18 latest
version.

I open a PDF document, but I can't figure out how to make it read.
Arrowing up and down just says blank or it's completely silent.
Tabbing just says tab, but no text is spoken. What am I doing wrong?
How do I get JAWS to read a PDF document?

Jeff

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For

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC

[Audiobookfan]

Thanks to everyone who responded. I did get the solution in a private 
email. Here's what worked:


Click the accessibility setup assistant. In the setup assistant do the 
following: click next until you find read single page... set this to
read entire document. then click next until you see open in web browser 
and uncheck it. then click next and finally finish.


Both of these items needed adjustment. The values above were not the 
defaults.


I can now read my document, but it did take quite a while to load the 
document. It's over 100 pages. Then, as I arrowed down through the 
document, it seemed a little sluggish. Not snappy like reading a web 
page or text document in Notepad. Is this normal for a PDF document?


Thanks,
Jeff

On 6/15/2017 3:03 AM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

I've just located David Whitehead's instructions for making Adobe Reader X 
accessible. I can't be sure, but I think they also apply to Adobe DC. I'll copy 
them below. But first, a friend wrote the following off-list:

One note on your suggestion: If you do get that dialog (when Adobe opens a PDF 
file) and check to use the current settings for the future, the choice will not 
be presented the next time. Or at least that's what I get with Adobe Acrobat.

Now to David Whitehead's instructions:
1, Open adobe,
2, press ctrl+k (preferences),
3, now press the letter "g"'general,
4, now tab and Uncheck, Enable Protected Mode at startup.
You need to change another setting so, tab until you have General highlighted 
again.
5. With General highlighted, press the letter I, until you have Internet 
highlighted.
6. Tab to, Display PDF in browser, if this box is checked press the spacebar to 
uncheck it.
7. Tab to the okay button, press enter to close preferences & save your changes, 
& press Alt + F4 to close Adobe.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jorge Rivas
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 12:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC

Hey,
Teacher Mr. Adrian, thanks, I need to do this to my new machine, that flies 
like a butterfly and stings like a bee!
Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 12:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC

Yes, JAWS's convenient OCR is probably the simplest way of handling this problem. but I'm 
wondering why nothing was spoken. Typically, I get an Adobe dialog asking how I want the 
PDF file made readable. I click on my choice and wait. Sometimes the document is read, 
sometimes I'm told it's "blank."

Jeff, did you set up Adobe Reader for accessibility? If not, open Adobe/Acrobat and press 
control-k. JAWS will verbalize "Accessibility" right away. Go from there.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jared Rimer
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 11:40 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC

You can also do d for document which would work for those image documents.

On 6/14/2017 19:17, Steve wrote:

You may have one of those lovely image pdf files that Adobe can't
convert to text.
Try the Jaws convenient OCR Insert-space, then O, then W for Window or
S for screen or C for image.

- Original Message - From: "Audiobookfan"
<listening...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:53 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC



Based on a suggestion from the Win10 list, I just installed Adobe
Reader DC on my Windows 10 (1703) computer. I'm using JAWS 18 latest
version.

I open a PDF document, but I can't figure out how to make it read.
Arrowing up and down just says blank or it's completely silent.
Tabbing just says tab, but no text is spoken. What am I doing wrong?
How do I get JAWS to read a PDF document?

Jeff

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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correspondence address.  Please E-mail through my web site www.jaredrimer.net 
for faster response times.  Thanks for your support.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC

[Adrian Spratt]

I've just located David Whitehead's instructions for making Adobe Reader X 
accessible. I can't be sure, but I think they also apply to Adobe DC. I'll copy 
them below. But first, a friend wrote the following off-list:

One note on your suggestion: If you do get that dialog (when Adobe opens a PDF 
file) and check to use the current settings for the future, the choice will not 
be presented the next time. Or at least that's what I get with Adobe Acrobat.

Now to David Whitehead's instructions:
1, Open adobe,
2, press ctrl+k (preferences),
3, now press the letter "g"'general,
4, now tab and Uncheck, Enable Protected Mode at startup. 
You need to change another setting so, tab until you have General highlighted 
again.
5. With General highlighted, press the letter I, until you have Internet 
highlighted.
6. Tab to, Display PDF in browser, if this box is checked press the spacebar to 
uncheck it.
7. Tab to the okay button, press enter to close preferences & save your 
changes, & press Alt + F4 to close Adobe.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jorge Rivas
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 12:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC

Hey,
Teacher Mr. Adrian, thanks, I need to do this to my new machine, that flies 
like a butterfly and stings like a bee!
Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 12:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC

Yes, JAWS's convenient OCR is probably the simplest way of handling this 
problem. but I'm wondering why nothing was spoken. Typically, I get an Adobe 
dialog asking how I want the PDF file made readable. I click on my choice and 
wait. Sometimes the document is read, sometimes I'm told it's "blank." 

Jeff, did you set up Adobe Reader for accessibility? If not, open Adobe/Acrobat 
and press control-k. JAWS will verbalize "Accessibility" right away. Go from 
there. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jared Rimer
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 11:40 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC

You can also do d for document which would work for those image documents.

On 6/14/2017 19:17, Steve wrote:
> You may have one of those lovely image pdf files that Adobe can't 
> convert to text.
> Try the Jaws convenient OCR Insert-space, then O, then W for Window or 
> S for screen or C for image.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Audiobookfan" 
> <listening...@gmail.com>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:53 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC
> 
> 
>> Based on a suggestion from the Win10 list, I just installed Adobe 
>> Reader DC on my Windows 10 (1703) computer. I'm using JAWS 18 latest 
>> version.
>>
>> I open a PDF document, but I can't figure out how to make it read. 
>> Arrowing up and down just says blank or it's completely silent. 
>> Tabbing just says tab, but no text is spoken. What am I doing wrong? 
>> How do I get JAWS to read a PDF document?
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

--
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correspondence address.  Please E-mail through my web site www.jaredrimer.net 
for faster response times.  Thanks for your support.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC

[Jorge Rivas]

Hey,
Teacher Mr. Adrian, thanks, I need to do this to my new machine, that flies
like a butterfly and stings like a bee!
Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 12:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC

Yes, JAWS's convenient OCR is probably the simplest way of handling this
problem. but I'm wondering why nothing was spoken. Typically, I get an Adobe
dialog asking how I want the PDF file made readable. I click on my choice
and wait. Sometimes the document is read, sometimes I'm told it's "blank." 

Jeff, did you set up Adobe Reader for accessibility? If not, open
Adobe/Acrobat and press control-k. JAWS will verbalize "Accessibility" right
away. Go from there. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jared Rimer
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 11:40 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC

You can also do d for document which would work for those image documents.

On 6/14/2017 19:17, Steve wrote:
> You may have one of those lovely image pdf files that Adobe can't 
> convert to text.
> Try the Jaws convenient OCR Insert-space, then O, then W for Window or 
> S for screen or C for image.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Audiobookfan" 
> <listening...@gmail.com>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:53 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC
> 
> 
>> Based on a suggestion from the Win10 list, I just installed Adobe 
>> Reader DC on my Windows 10 (1703) computer. I'm using JAWS 18 latest 
>> version.
>>
>> I open a PDF document, but I can't figure out how to make it read. 
>> Arrowing up and down just says blank or it's completely silent. 
>> Tabbing just says tab, but no text is spoken. What am I doing wrong? 
>> How do I get JAWS to read a PDF document?
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

--
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correspondence address.  Please E-mail through my web site
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC

[Adrian Spratt]

Yes, JAWS's convenient OCR is probably the simplest way of handling this 
problem. but I'm wondering why nothing was spoken. Typically, I get an Adobe 
dialog asking how I want the PDF file made readable. I click on my choice and 
wait. Sometimes the document is read, sometimes I'm told it's "blank." 

Jeff, did you set up Adobe Reader for accessibility? If not, open Adobe/Acrobat 
and press control-k. JAWS will verbalize "Accessibility" right away. Go from 
there. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jared Rimer
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 11:40 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC

You can also do d for document which would work for those image documents.

On 6/14/2017 19:17, Steve wrote:
> You may have one of those lovely image pdf files that Adobe can't 
> convert to text.
> Try the Jaws convenient OCR Insert-space, then O, then W for Window or 
> S for screen or C for image.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Audiobookfan" 
> <listening...@gmail.com>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:53 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC
> 
> 
>> Based on a suggestion from the Win10 list, I just installed Adobe 
>> Reader DC on my Windows 10 (1703) computer. I'm using JAWS 18 latest 
>> version.
>>
>> I open a PDF document, but I can't figure out how to make it read. 
>> Arrowing up and down just says blank or it's completely silent. 
>> Tabbing just says tab, but no text is spoken. What am I doing wrong? 
>> How do I get JAWS to read a PDF document?
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

--
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correspondence address.  Please E-mail through my web site www.jaredrimer.net 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC

[Jared Rimer]

You can also do d for document which would work for those image documents.

On 6/14/2017 19:17, Steve wrote:
You may have one of those lovely image pdf files that Adobe can't 
convert to text.
Try the Jaws convenient OCR Insert-space, then O, then W for Window or S 
for screen or C for image.


- Original Message - From: "Audiobookfan" <listening...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:53 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC


Based on a suggestion from the Win10 list, I just installed Adobe 
Reader DC on my Windows 10 (1703) computer. I'm using JAWS 18 latest 
version.


I open a PDF document, but I can't figure out how to make it read. 
Arrowing up and down just says blank or it's completely silent. 
Tabbing just says tab, but no text is spoken. What am I doing wrong? 
How do I get JAWS to read a PDF document?


Jeff

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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



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correspondence address.  Please E-mail through my web site 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC

[Steve]

You may have one of those lovely image pdf files that Adobe can't convert to 
text.
Try the Jaws convenient OCR Insert-space, then O, then W for Window or S for 
screen or C for image.


- Original Message - 
From: "Audiobookfan" <listening...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:53 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC


Based on a suggestion from the Win10 list, I just installed Adobe Reader 
DC on my Windows 10 (1703) computer. I'm using JAWS 18 latest version.


I open a PDF document, but I can't figure out how to make it read. 
Arrowing up and down just says blank or it's completely silent. Tabbing 
just says tab, but no text is spoken. What am I doing wrong? How do I get 
JAWS to read a PDF document?


Jeff

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[JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC

[Audiobookfan]

Based on a suggestion from the Win10 list, I just installed Adobe Reader 
DC on my Windows 10 (1703) computer. I'm using JAWS 18 latest version.


I open a PDF document, but I can't figure out how to make it read. 
Arrowing up and down just says blank or it's completely silent. Tabbing 
just says tab, but no text is spoken. What am I doing wrong? How do I 
get JAWS to read a PDF document?


Jeff

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[JAWS-Users] need help with DAISY player

[Susan Wojtecki]

-- 
susan


Hi everyone,
Can anyone tell me whether the FS reader can be used to open and play
Bookshare DAISY  files? If so, what is the folder pathname in Windows
10 so the downloaded titles can be found? I know there used to be a
Victor tool for this but it's no longer being supported and the
Bookshare website seems to be promoting their webreader rather than
any tool for downloading and saving titles. Since this may be straying
from the topic of JAWS, I'd prefer responses off list to
susan.wojte...@gmail.com if anyone can advise what works for them. Oh,
and am using current JAWS version, assuming FS reader will work for my
purposes  Tia.

Susan

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Mail

[Maria Campbell]

If you are using Thunderbird, you need to turn off message pane with the 
f8 key.  Then you will be able to tab between your folders and messages.






lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
things, it does not exist at all.

On 3/16/2017 9:39 AM, Matthew Dyer wrote:

Hi,


What version of jfw are you using?  If 18  you will want to make sure 
that caret is enabled by pressing f7 and you should be set. Also you 
might have to press f6 to jump to the reading pain the first time you 
open a message.  It is a pain, but it should work. VFO should try to 
do something abolut this.  The vertual currser no longer works as it 
should after an update to the mail app.



Matthew




On 03/16/2017 07:57 AM, Gail the U. S. Male wrote:
Hello, I'm using the Mail program in Windows 10, trying to figure out 
which
I want to be my long term e-mail client, mail, thunderbird, or 
outlook.  How
do you go about reading the messages. I can see the list, which says 
left
pane, but if I hit enter on the message header, nothing seems to 
happen. Any

help will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Mail

[Matthew Dyer]

Hi,


What version of jfw are you using?  If 18  you will want to make sure 
that caret is enabled by pressing f7 and you should be set. Also you 
might have to press f6 to jump to the reading pain the first time you 
open a message.  It is a pain, but it should work. VFO should try to do 
something abolut this.  The vertual currser no longer works as it should 
after an update to the mail app.



Matthew




On 03/16/2017 07:57 AM, Gail the U. S. Male wrote:

Hello, I'm using the Mail program in Windows 10, trying to figure out which
I want to be my long term e-mail client, mail, thunderbird, or outlook.  How
do you go about reading the messages. I can see the list, which says left
pane, but if I hit enter on the message header, nothing seems to happen. Any
help will be greatly appreciated.

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[JAWS-Users] Need help with Mail

[Gail the U. S. Male]

Hello, I'm using the Mail program in Windows 10, trying to figure out which
I want to be my long term e-mail client, mail, thunderbird, or outlook.  How
do you go about reading the messages. I can see the list, which says left
pane, but if I hit enter on the message header, nothing seems to happen. Any
help will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[TheHangMan]

Tom,
Windows enter is the correct command for Windows 10.
Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 3:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Becky, I may be wrong, but I wonder if you set up this command for Narrator.
It doesn't work on my Windows 7 machine and never has. As a result, I was
able to assign this same command to start NVDA.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Becky Buckner
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

I am using windows 7 and Alt with control and the letter N will bring up
Narrator.
- Original Message -
From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


> Tom,
>
> Let's start over. In Windows 7, the simplest or most reliable way to
> invoke Narrator is to press Windows key+r to bring up the "run"
> dialog, then type narrator. Wait a second or two and Narrator starts
> speaking. To close Narrator, tab twice to "Exit." Press spacebar, then
> alt-y to confirm.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:45 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues
>
> Jim:
>
> I just tried Windows key plus enter to launch Narrator, but couldn't
> get it to come up.
>
> Perhaps I should clarify that I'm using Windows 7 and Jaws 17 here.
>
> Can you do this with Jaws active?
>
> I tried both with and without Jaws, but had no luck.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Tom Behler
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Jim
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:38 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues
>
> Press Windows key+Enter, yes this is a toggle keystroke, press it once
> to turn Narrator on, press it again to turn narrator off.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:02 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues
>
> Hello.
>
> I have conflicting instructions here regarding how to start Windows
> Narrator.
>
> One set of instructions says hit the Windows key plus enter
> simultaneously; this supposedly is a toggle to turn Narrator on and off.
>
> Another set of instructions I have here says to hit the windows key
> plus the letter U. to open the access center;  and then press Alt N to
> launch narrator.
>
> Can someone tell me which of these instructions are accurate?
>
> Thanks as always!
>
> Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of TheHangMan
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:35 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues
>
> Tom,
> I just press the spacebar once and the password box comes up.
> If, nothing happens on start up, I switch to narrator and it gets the
> job done.
> Jorge
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:13 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues
>
> Thanks, Mike.
>
> I appreciate these additional instructions, and will save for future
> reference, should the problem recur.
>
> Tom Behler
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:43 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues
>
> Hi
>
> Unfortunately, the items in the start-up folder are only started after
> the user has logged in.  So putting an icon for JAWS in the start-up
> folder will not provide speech on the log-in screen.  Now that JAWS is
> speaking on the log-in screen, , you could do the following to help if
> you

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Adrian Spratt]

Becky, I may be wrong, but I wonder if you set up this command for Narrator. It 
doesn't work on my Windows 7 machine and never has. As a result, I was able to 
assign this same command to start NVDA.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Becky Buckner
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

I am using windows 7 and Alt with control and the letter N will bring up 
Narrator.
- Original Message -
From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


> Tom,
>
> Let's start over. In Windows 7, the simplest or most reliable way to 
> invoke Narrator is to press Windows key+r to bring up the "run" 
> dialog, then type narrator. Wait a second or two and Narrator starts 
> speaking. To close Narrator, tab twice to "Exit." Press spacebar, then 
> alt-y to confirm.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:45 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues
>
> Jim:
>
> I just tried Windows key plus enter to launch Narrator, but couldn't 
> get it to come up.
>
> Perhaps I should clarify that I'm using Windows 7 and Jaws 17 here.
>
> Can you do this with Jaws active?
>
> I tried both with and without Jaws, but had no luck.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Tom Behler
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Jim
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:38 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues
>
> Press Windows key+Enter, yes this is a toggle keystroke, press it once 
> to turn Narrator on, press it again to turn narrator off.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:02 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues
>
> Hello.
>
> I have conflicting instructions here regarding how to start Windows 
> Narrator.
>
> One set of instructions says hit the Windows key plus enter 
> simultaneously; this supposedly is a toggle to turn Narrator on and off.
>
> Another set of instructions I have here says to hit the windows key 
> plus the letter U. to open the access center;  and then press Alt N to 
> launch narrator.
>
> Can someone tell me which of these instructions are accurate?
>
> Thanks as always!
>
> Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of TheHangMan
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:35 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues
>
> Tom,
> I just press the spacebar once and the password box comes up.
> If, nothing happens on start up, I switch to narrator and it gets the 
> job done.
> Jorge
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:13 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues
>
> Thanks, Mike.
>
> I appreciate these additional instructions, and will save for future 
> reference, should the problem recur.
>
> Tom Behler
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:43 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues
>
> Hi
>
> Unfortunately, the items in the start-up folder are only started after 
> the user has logged in.  So putting an icon for JAWS in the start-up 
> folder will not provide speech on the log-in screen.  Now that JAWS is 
> speaking on the log-in screen, , you could do the following to help if 
> you have the JAWS starting problem again.
>
> 1.  Start the computer and wait until JAWS starts talking on the 
> log-in screen.
> 2.  Press tab until you get to the password for your user id, counting 
> the number of times you had to press tab
>
> if JAWS again does not speak on the log-in screen, after waitin

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Tom Behler]

Thanks, Adrian.

I got it now.

Very easy.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,

Let's start over. In Windows 7, the simplest or most reliable way to invoke
Narrator is to press Windows key+r to bring up the "run" dialog, then type
narrator. Wait a second or two and Narrator starts speaking. To close
Narrator, tab twice to "Exit." Press spacebar, then alt-y to confirm.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Jim:

I just tried Windows key plus enter to launch Narrator, but couldn't get it
to come up.

Perhaps I should clarify that I'm using Windows 7 and Jaws 17 here.

Can you do this with Jaws active?

I tried both with and without Jaws, but had no luck.

What am I doing wrong?

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Press Windows key+Enter, yes this is a toggle keystroke, press it once to
turn Narrator on, press it again to turn narrator off.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hello.

I have conflicting instructions here regarding how to start Windows
Narrator.

One set of instructions says hit the Windows key plus enter simultaneously;
this supposedly is a toggle to turn Narrator on and off.

Another set of instructions I have here says to hit the windows key plus the
letter U. to open the access center;  and then press Alt N to launch
narrator.

Can someone tell me which of these instructions are accurate?

Thanks as always!

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,
I just press the spacebar once and the password box comes up.
If, nothing happens on start up, I switch to narrator and it gets the job
done.
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Thanks, Mike.

I appreciate these additional instructions, and will save for future
reference, should the problem recur.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi

Unfortunately, the items in the start-up folder are only started after the
user has logged in.  So putting an icon for JAWS in the start-up folder will
not provide speech on the log-in screen.  Now that JAWS is speaking on the
log-in screen, , you could do the following to help if you have the JAWS
starting problem again.

1.  Start the computer and wait until JAWS starts talking on the log-in
screen.
2.  Press tab until you get to the password for your user id, counting the
number of times you had to press tab

if JAWS again does not speak on the log-in screen, after waiting for a while
when you turn the computer on, press tab the number of times you counted,
enter your password and press enter.  This should get you logged in.

When you're logged in, you can always start JAWS by pressing Windows-key and
type JAWS?? and press enter. ?? is the version of JAWS you want to start 17,
18, etc..


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:39
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

That's what I believe I did last night.

Kind of stumbled upon the solution, but at least it seems to have worked.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 7:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Another method if you are still having the s

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Becky Buckner]

I am using windows 7 and Alt with control and the letter N will bring up 
Narrator.
- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues



Tom,

Let's start over. In Windows 7, the simplest or most reliable way to 
invoke Narrator is to press Windows key+r to bring up the "run" dialog, 
then type narrator. Wait a second or two and Narrator starts speaking. To 
close Narrator, tab twice to "Exit." Press spacebar, then alt-y to 
confirm.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Behler

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Jim:

I just tried Windows key plus enter to launch Narrator, but couldn't get 
it to come up.


Perhaps I should clarify that I'm using Windows 7 and Jaws 17 here.

Can you do this with Jaws active?

I tried both with and without Jaws, but had no luck.

What am I doing wrong?

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Jim

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Press Windows key+Enter, yes this is a toggle keystroke, press it once to 
turn Narrator on, press it again to turn narrator off.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Behler

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hello.

I have conflicting instructions here regarding how to start Windows 
Narrator.


One set of instructions says hit the Windows key plus enter 
simultaneously; this supposedly is a toggle to turn Narrator on and off.


Another set of instructions I have here says to hit the windows key plus 
the letter U. to open the access center;  and then press Alt N to launch 
narrator.


Can someone tell me which of these instructions are accurate?

Thanks as always!

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of TheHangMan

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,
I just press the spacebar once and the password box comes up.
If, nothing happens on start up, I switch to narrator and it gets the job 
done.

Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Behler

Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Thanks, Mike.

I appreciate these additional instructions, and will save for future 
reference, should the problem recur.


Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien

Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi

Unfortunately, the items in the start-up folder are only started after the 
user has logged in.  So putting an icon for JAWS in the start-up folder 
will not provide speech on the log-in screen.  Now that JAWS is speaking 
on the log-in screen, , you could do the following to help if you have the 
JAWS starting problem again.


1.  Start the computer and wait until JAWS starts talking on the log-in 
screen.
2.  Press tab until you get to the password for your user id, counting the 
number of times you had to press tab


if JAWS again does not speak on the log-in screen, after waiting for a 
while when you turn the computer on, press tab the number of times you 
counted, enter your password and press enter.  This should get you logged 
in.


When you're logged in, you can always start JAWS by pressing Windows-key 
and type JAWS?? and press enter. ?? is the version of JAWS you want to 
start 17, 18, etc..



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Behler

Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:39
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

That's what I believe I did last night.

Kind of stumbled upon the solution, but at least it seems to have worked.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Ferrin

Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 7:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Another method if you 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Adrian Spratt]

Tom,

Let's start over. In Windows 7, the simplest or most reliable way to invoke 
Narrator is to press Windows key+r to bring up the "run" dialog, then type 
narrator. Wait a second or two and Narrator starts speaking. To close Narrator, 
tab twice to "Exit." Press spacebar, then alt-y to confirm.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Jim:

I just tried Windows key plus enter to launch Narrator, but couldn't get it to 
come up.

Perhaps I should clarify that I'm using Windows 7 and Jaws 17 here.

Can you do this with Jaws active?

I tried both with and without Jaws, but had no luck.

What am I doing wrong?

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Press Windows key+Enter, yes this is a toggle keystroke, press it once to turn 
Narrator on, press it again to turn narrator off.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hello.

I have conflicting instructions here regarding how to start Windows Narrator.

One set of instructions says hit the Windows key plus enter simultaneously; 
this supposedly is a toggle to turn Narrator on and off.

Another set of instructions I have here says to hit the windows key plus the 
letter U. to open the access center;  and then press Alt N to launch narrator.

Can someone tell me which of these instructions are accurate?

Thanks as always!

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of TheHangMan
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,
I just press the spacebar once and the password box comes up.
If, nothing happens on start up, I switch to narrator and it gets the job done.
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Thanks, Mike.

I appreciate these additional instructions, and will save for future reference, 
should the problem recur.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi

Unfortunately, the items in the start-up folder are only started after the user 
has logged in.  So putting an icon for JAWS in the start-up folder will not 
provide speech on the log-in screen.  Now that JAWS is speaking on the log-in 
screen, , you could do the following to help if you have the JAWS starting 
problem again.

1.  Start the computer and wait until JAWS starts talking on the log-in screen.
2.  Press tab until you get to the password for your user id, counting the 
number of times you had to press tab

if JAWS again does not speak on the log-in screen, after waiting for a while 
when you turn the computer on, press tab the number of times you counted, enter 
your password and press enter.  This should get you logged in.

When you're logged in, you can always start JAWS by pressing Windows-key and 
type JAWS?? and press enter. ?? is the version of JAWS you want to start 17, 
18, etc..


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:39
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

That's what I believe I did last night.

Kind of stumbled upon the solution, but at least it seems to have worked.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 7:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Another method if you are still having the startup problem would be to take a 
JAWS icon and place it in the startup folder, IE the same place where speak 
drop box and things like that go to fire up on system boot.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.co

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[andy t]

Hello Tom the key stroke to launch narrator in windows 7 is windows key plus 
the letter u HTH.


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Behler

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Jim:

I just tried Windows key plus enter to launch Narrator, but couldn't get it
to come up.

Perhaps I should clarify that I'm using Windows 7 and Jaws 17 here.

Can you do this with Jaws active?

I tried both with and without Jaws, but had no luck.

What am I doing wrong?

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Press Windows key+Enter, yes this is a toggle keystroke, press it once to
turn Narrator on, press it again to turn narrator off.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hello.

I have conflicting instructions here regarding how to start Windows
Narrator.

One set of instructions says hit the Windows key plus enter simultaneously;
this supposedly is a toggle to turn Narrator on and off.

Another set of instructions I have here says to hit the windows key plus the
letter U. to open the access center;  and then press Alt N to launch
narrator.

Can someone tell me which of these instructions are accurate?

Thanks as always!

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,
I just press the spacebar once and the password box comes up.
If, nothing happens on start up, I switch to narrator and it gets the job
done.
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Thanks, Mike.

I appreciate these additional instructions, and will save for future
reference, should the problem recur.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi

Unfortunately, the items in the start-up folder are only started after the
user has logged in.  So putting an icon for JAWS in the start-up folder will
not provide speech on the log-in screen.  Now that JAWS is speaking on the
log-in screen, , you could do the following to help if you have the JAWS
starting problem again.

1.  Start the computer and wait until JAWS starts talking on the log-in
screen.
2.  Press tab until you get to the password for your user id, counting the
number of times you had to press tab

if JAWS again does not speak on the log-in screen, after waiting for a while
when you turn the computer on, press tab the number of times you counted,
enter your password and press enter.  This should get you logged in.

When you're logged in, you can always start JAWS by pressing Windows-key and
type JAWS?? and press enter. ?? is the version of JAWS you want to start 17,
18, etc..


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:39
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

That's what I believe I did last night.

Kind of stumbled upon the solution, but at least it seems to have worked.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 7:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Another method if you are still having the startup problem would be to take
a JAWS icon and place it in the startup folder, IE the same place where
speak drop box and things like that go to fire up on system boot.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Mike:

It turns out that, for reasons I can't explain, my computer reverted back to
jaws 16, which I also have on the machine.

Now that I'm back in Jaws 17, Outlook is performing as it should.

I still need to trouble-shoot the log-on screen startup issue, but these
steps you gave me should help.

I'll

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Adrian Spratt]

Tom,

Your notes need to distinguish which keystrokes apply to which Windows system. 
I believe windows key+enter brings up Narrator only for Windows 10. I know for 
a fact it doesn't work in Windows 7, which I believe is your system, as it's 
also mine. I just tested. Word to the wise: You can always test suggestions 
like this yourself!!

The second way does work in Win7.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hello.

I have conflicting instructions here regarding how to start Windows Narrator.

One set of instructions says hit the Windows key plus enter simultaneously; 
this supposedly is a toggle to turn Narrator on and off.

Another set of instructions I have here says to hit the windows key plus the 
letter U. to open the access center;  and then press Alt N to launch narrator.

Can someone tell me which of these instructions are accurate?

Thanks as always!

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of TheHangMan
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,
I just press the spacebar once and the password box comes up.
If, nothing happens on start up, I switch to narrator and it gets the job done.
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Thanks, Mike.

I appreciate these additional instructions, and will save for future reference, 
should the problem recur.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi

Unfortunately, the items in the start-up folder are only started after the user 
has logged in.  So putting an icon for JAWS in the start-up folder will not 
provide speech on the log-in screen.  Now that JAWS is speaking on the log-in 
screen, , you could do the following to help if you have the JAWS starting 
problem again.

1.  Start the computer and wait until JAWS starts talking on the log-in screen.
2.  Press tab until you get to the password for your user id, counting the 
number of times you had to press tab

if JAWS again does not speak on the log-in screen, after waiting for a while 
when you turn the computer on, press tab the number of times you counted, enter 
your password and press enter.  This should get you logged in.

When you're logged in, you can always start JAWS by pressing Windows-key and 
type JAWS?? and press enter. ?? is the version of JAWS you want to start 17, 
18, etc..


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:39
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

That's what I believe I did last night.

Kind of stumbled upon the solution, but at least it seems to have worked.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 7:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Another method if you are still having the startup problem would be to take a 
JAWS icon and place it in the startup folder, IE the same place where speak 
drop box and things like that go to fire up on system boot.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Mike:

It turns out that, for reasons I can't explain, my computer reverted back to 
jaws 16, which I also have on the machine.

Now that I'm back in Jaws 17, Outlook is performing as it should.

I still need to trouble-shoot the log-on screen startup issue, but these steps 
you gave me should help.

I'll keep the steps handy, and continue work on the startup screen issue in the 
morning.

Thank you for your quick response.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi Tom,

You can try the following for your 1st issue, but I can't help with your 2nd
issue:
Note: The steps below were

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Tom Behler]

Jim:

I just tried Windows key plus enter to launch Narrator, but couldn't get it
to come up.

Perhaps I should clarify that I'm using Windows 7 and Jaws 17 here.

Can you do this with Jaws active?

I tried both with and without Jaws, but had no luck.

What am I doing wrong?

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Press Windows key+Enter, yes this is a toggle keystroke, press it once to
turn Narrator on, press it again to turn narrator off.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hello.

I have conflicting instructions here regarding how to start Windows
Narrator.

One set of instructions says hit the Windows key plus enter simultaneously;
this supposedly is a toggle to turn Narrator on and off.

Another set of instructions I have here says to hit the windows key plus the
letter U. to open the access center;  and then press Alt N to launch
narrator.

Can someone tell me which of these instructions are accurate?

Thanks as always!

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,
I just press the spacebar once and the password box comes up.
If, nothing happens on start up, I switch to narrator and it gets the job
done.
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Thanks, Mike.

I appreciate these additional instructions, and will save for future
reference, should the problem recur.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi

Unfortunately, the items in the start-up folder are only started after the
user has logged in.  So putting an icon for JAWS in the start-up folder will
not provide speech on the log-in screen.  Now that JAWS is speaking on the
log-in screen, , you could do the following to help if you have the JAWS
starting problem again.

1.  Start the computer and wait until JAWS starts talking on the log-in
screen.
2.  Press tab until you get to the password for your user id, counting the
number of times you had to press tab

if JAWS again does not speak on the log-in screen, after waiting for a while
when you turn the computer on, press tab the number of times you counted,
enter your password and press enter.  This should get you logged in.

When you're logged in, you can always start JAWS by pressing Windows-key and
type JAWS?? and press enter. ?? is the version of JAWS you want to start 17,
18, etc..


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:39
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

That's what I believe I did last night.

Kind of stumbled upon the solution, but at least it seems to have worked.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 7:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Another method if you are still having the startup problem would be to take
a JAWS icon and place it in the startup folder, IE the same place where
speak drop box and things like that go to fire up on system boot.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Mike:

It turns out that, for reasons I can't explain, my computer reverted back to
jaws 16, which I also have on the machine.

Now that I'm back in Jaws 17, Outlook is performing as it should.

I still need to trouble-shoot the log-on screen startup issue, but these
steps you gave me should help.

I'll keep the steps handy, and continue work on the startup screen issue in
the morning.

Thank you for your quick response.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Tom Behler]

Thanks, Jim.

Appreciate the confirmation.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Press Windows key+Enter, yes this is a toggle keystroke, press it once to
turn Narrator on, press it again to turn narrator off.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hello.

I have conflicting instructions here regarding how to start Windows
Narrator.

One set of instructions says hit the Windows key plus enter simultaneously;
this supposedly is a toggle to turn Narrator on and off.

Another set of instructions I have here says to hit the windows key plus the
letter U. to open the access center;  and then press Alt N to launch
narrator.

Can someone tell me which of these instructions are accurate?

Thanks as always!

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,
I just press the spacebar once and the password box comes up.
If, nothing happens on start up, I switch to narrator and it gets the job
done.
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Thanks, Mike.

I appreciate these additional instructions, and will save for future
reference, should the problem recur.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi

Unfortunately, the items in the start-up folder are only started after the
user has logged in.  So putting an icon for JAWS in the start-up folder will
not provide speech on the log-in screen.  Now that JAWS is speaking on the
log-in screen, , you could do the following to help if you have the JAWS
starting problem again.

1.  Start the computer and wait until JAWS starts talking on the log-in
screen.
2.  Press tab until you get to the password for your user id, counting the
number of times you had to press tab

if JAWS again does not speak on the log-in screen, after waiting for a while
when you turn the computer on, press tab the number of times you counted,
enter your password and press enter.  This should get you logged in.

When you're logged in, you can always start JAWS by pressing Windows-key and
type JAWS?? and press enter. ?? is the version of JAWS you want to start 17,
18, etc..


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:39
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

That's what I believe I did last night.

Kind of stumbled upon the solution, but at least it seems to have worked.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 7:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Another method if you are still having the startup problem would be to take
a JAWS icon and place it in the startup folder, IE the same place where
speak drop box and things like that go to fire up on system boot.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Mike:

It turns out that, for reasons I can't explain, my computer reverted back to
jaws 16, which I also have on the machine.

Now that I'm back in Jaws 17, Outlook is performing as it should.

I still need to trouble-shoot the log-on screen startup issue, but these
steps you gave me should help.

I'll keep the steps handy, and continue work on the startup screen issue in
the morning.

Thank you for your quick response.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi Tom,

You can try the following for your 1st issue, but I can't help with your 2nd

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Jim]

Press Windows key+Enter, yes this is a toggle keystroke, press it once to
turn Narrator on, press it again to turn narrator off.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hello.

I have conflicting instructions here regarding how to start Windows
Narrator.

One set of instructions says hit the Windows key plus enter simultaneously;
this supposedly is a toggle to turn Narrator on and off.

Another set of instructions I have here says to hit the windows key plus the
letter U. to open the access center;  and then press Alt N to launch
narrator.

Can someone tell me which of these instructions are accurate?

Thanks as always!

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,
I just press the spacebar once and the password box comes up.
If, nothing happens on start up, I switch to narrator and it gets the job
done.
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Thanks, Mike.

I appreciate these additional instructions, and will save for future
reference, should the problem recur.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi

Unfortunately, the items in the start-up folder are only started after the
user has logged in.  So putting an icon for JAWS in the start-up folder will
not provide speech on the log-in screen.  Now that JAWS is speaking on the
log-in screen, , you could do the following to help if you have the JAWS
starting problem again.

1.  Start the computer and wait until JAWS starts talking on the log-in
screen.
2.  Press tab until you get to the password for your user id, counting the
number of times you had to press tab

if JAWS again does not speak on the log-in screen, after waiting for a while
when you turn the computer on, press tab the number of times you counted,
enter your password and press enter.  This should get you logged in.

When you're logged in, you can always start JAWS by pressing Windows-key and
type JAWS?? and press enter. ?? is the version of JAWS you want to start 17,
18, etc..


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:39
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

That's what I believe I did last night.

Kind of stumbled upon the solution, but at least it seems to have worked.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 7:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Another method if you are still having the startup problem would be to take
a JAWS icon and place it in the startup folder, IE the same place where
speak drop box and things like that go to fire up on system boot.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Mike:

It turns out that, for reasons I can't explain, my computer reverted back to
jaws 16, which I also have on the machine.

Now that I'm back in Jaws 17, Outlook is performing as it should.

I still need to trouble-shoot the log-on screen startup issue, but these
steps you gave me should help.

I'll keep the steps handy, and continue work on the startup screen issue in
the morning.

Thank you for your quick response.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi Tom,

You can try the following for your 1st issue, but I can't help with your 2nd
issue:
Note: The steps below were performed running Windows 7 & JAWS versions 15
thru 18.  These steps won't work with Windows 8 or 10, & why they won't is
below my steps.
For those of you that have Jaws set to start at the Windows log-in screen,
but it doesn't, this might work for you.  I looked in, 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Tom Behler]

Hello.

I have conflicting instructions here regarding how to start Windows
Narrator.

One set of instructions says hit the Windows key plus enter simultaneously;
this supposedly is a toggle to turn Narrator on and off.

Another set of instructions I have here says to hit the windows key plus the
letter U. to open the access center;  and then press Alt N to launch
narrator.

Can someone tell me which of these instructions are accurate?

Thanks as always!

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,
I just press the spacebar once and the password box comes up.
If, nothing happens on start up, I switch to narrator and it gets the job
done.
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Thanks, Mike.

I appreciate these additional instructions, and will save for future
reference, should the problem recur.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi

Unfortunately, the items in the start-up folder are only started after the
user has logged in.  So putting an icon for JAWS in the start-up folder will
not provide speech on the log-in screen.  Now that JAWS is speaking on the
log-in screen, , you could do the following to help if you have the JAWS
starting problem again.

1.  Start the computer and wait until JAWS starts talking on the log-in
screen.
2.  Press tab until you get to the password for your user id, counting the
number of times you had to press tab

if JAWS again does not speak on the log-in screen, after waiting for a while
when you turn the computer on, press tab the number of times you counted,
enter your password and press enter.  This should get you logged in.

When you're logged in, you can always start JAWS by pressing Windows-key and
type JAWS?? and press enter. ?? is the version of JAWS you want to start 17,
18, etc..


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:39
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

That's what I believe I did last night.

Kind of stumbled upon the solution, but at least it seems to have worked.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 7:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Another method if you are still having the startup problem would be to take
a JAWS icon and place it in the startup folder, IE the same place where
speak drop box and things like that go to fire up on system boot.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Mike:

It turns out that, for reasons I can't explain, my computer reverted back to
jaws 16, which I also have on the machine.

Now that I'm back in Jaws 17, Outlook is performing as it should.

I still need to trouble-shoot the log-on screen startup issue, but these
steps you gave me should help.

I'll keep the steps handy, and continue work on the startup screen issue in
the morning.

Thank you for your quick response.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi Tom,

You can try the following for your 1st issue, but I can't help with your 2nd
issue:
Note: The steps below were performed running Windows 7 & JAWS versions 15
thru 18.  These steps won't work with Windows 8 or 10, & why they won't is
below my steps.
For those of you that have Jaws set to start at the Windows log-in screen,
but it doesn't, this might work for you.  I looked in, msconfig, & found
that JAWS Freedom Scientific wasn't at the top of the list on the Start-up
Page / Tab, so this is what I did.
1. Press, Windows key + R, to open the run dialog.
2. Type, *msconfig*, without the stars, & press enter.
3. Press, control + tab, until you get to the, Start-up Page / Tab.
4. I arrowed down the list, & unchecked any items above, JAW

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[TheHangMan]

Tom,
I just press the spacebar once and the password box comes up.
If, nothing happens on start up, I switch to narrator and it gets the job
done.
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Thanks, Mike.

I appreciate these additional instructions, and will save for future
reference, should the problem recur.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi

Unfortunately, the items in the start-up folder are only started after the
user has logged in.  So putting an icon for JAWS in the start-up folder will
not provide speech on the log-in screen.  Now that JAWS is speaking on the
log-in screen, , you could do the following to help if you have the JAWS
starting problem again.

1.  Start the computer and wait until JAWS starts talking on the log-in
screen.
2.  Press tab until you get to the password for your user id, counting the
number of times you had to press tab

if JAWS again does not speak on the log-in screen, after waiting for a while
when you turn the computer on, press tab the number of times you counted,
enter your password and press enter.  This should get you logged in.

When you're logged in, you can always start JAWS by pressing Windows-key and
type JAWS?? and press enter. ?? is the version of JAWS you want to start 17,
18, etc..


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:39
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

That's what I believe I did last night.

Kind of stumbled upon the solution, but at least it seems to have worked.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 7:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Another method if you are still having the startup problem would be to take
a JAWS icon and place it in the startup folder, IE the same place where
speak drop box and things like that go to fire up on system boot.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Mike:

It turns out that, for reasons I can't explain, my computer reverted back to
jaws 16, which I also have on the machine.

Now that I'm back in Jaws 17, Outlook is performing as it should.

I still need to trouble-shoot the log-on screen startup issue, but these
steps you gave me should help.

I'll keep the steps handy, and continue work on the startup screen issue in
the morning.

Thank you for your quick response.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi Tom,

You can try the following for your 1st issue, but I can't help with your 2nd
issue:
Note: The steps below were performed running Windows 7 & JAWS versions 15
thru 18.  These steps won't work with Windows 8 or 10, & why they won't is
below my steps.
For those of you that have Jaws set to start at the Windows log-in screen,
but it doesn't, this might work for you.  I looked in, msconfig, & found
that JAWS Freedom Scientific wasn't at the top of the list on the Start-up
Page / Tab, so this is what I did.
1. Press, Windows key + R, to open the run dialog.
2. Type, *msconfig*, without the stars, & press enter.
3. Press, control + tab, until you get to the, Start-up Page / Tab.
4. I arrowed down the list, & unchecked any items above, JAWS Freedom
Scientific, on the Start-up Page / Tab.
Note: Only uncheck the items / programs above JAWS Freedom Scientific, &
nothing else.  Pay close attention to what you uncheck because you are going
to recheck these items / programs shortly.
5. Tab to the, Okay, button, press the spacebar, & tab 1 time to, Restart, &
press enter to restart your computer.
6. Once your computer is booted up repeat steps 1 thru 3, & you will notice
that JAWS Freedom Scientific is now at the top of the list.
7. Now, arrow down the list of items / programs on the Start-up Page / Tab,
check the items / programs that you unchecked previously, & repeat step #5.
Now Jaws should start on the Windows log-in screen when your computer
starts.  I did the ab

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Tom Behler]

Thanks, Mike.

I appreciate these additional instructions, and will save for future
reference, should the problem recur.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi

Unfortunately, the items in the start-up folder are only started after the
user has logged in.  So putting an icon for JAWS in the start-up folder will
not provide speech on the log-in screen.  Now that JAWS is speaking on the
log-in screen, , you could do the following to help if you have the JAWS
starting problem again.  

1.  Start the computer and wait until JAWS starts talking on the log-in
screen.  
2.  Press tab until you get to the password for your user id, counting the
number of times you had to press tab

if JAWS again does not speak on the log-in screen, after waiting for a while
when you turn the computer on, press tab the number of times you counted,
enter your password and press enter.  This should get you logged in.

When you're logged in, you can always start JAWS by pressing Windows-key and
type JAWS?? and press enter. ?? is the version of JAWS you want to start 17,
18, etc..


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:39
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

That's what I believe I did last night.

Kind of stumbled upon the solution, but at least it seems to have worked.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 7:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Another method if you are still having the startup problem would be to take
a JAWS icon and place it in the startup folder, IE the same place where
speak drop box and things like that go to fire up on system boot.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Mike:

It turns out that, for reasons I can't explain, my computer reverted back to
jaws 16, which I also have on the machine.

Now that I'm back in Jaws 17, Outlook is performing as it should.

I still need to trouble-shoot the log-on screen startup issue, but these
steps you gave me should help.

I'll keep the steps handy, and continue work on the startup screen issue in
the morning.

Thank you for your quick response.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi Tom,

You can try the following for your 1st issue, but I can't help with your 2nd
issue:
Note: The steps below were performed running Windows 7 & JAWS versions 15
thru 18.  These steps won't work with Windows 8 or 10, & why they won't is
below my steps.
For those of you that have Jaws set to start at the Windows log-in screen,
but it doesn't, this might work for you.  I looked in, msconfig, & found
that JAWS Freedom Scientific wasn't at the top of the list on the Start-up
Page / Tab, so this is what I did.
1. Press, Windows key + R, to open the run dialog.
2. Type, *msconfig*, without the stars, & press enter.
3. Press, control + tab, until you get to the, Start-up Page / Tab.
4. I arrowed down the list, & unchecked any items above, JAWS Freedom
Scientific, on the Start-up Page / Tab.
Note: Only uncheck the items / programs above JAWS Freedom Scientific, &
nothing else.  Pay close attention to what you uncheck because you are going
to recheck these items / programs shortly.
5. Tab to the, Okay, button, press the spacebar, & tab 1 time to, Restart, &
press enter to restart your computer.
6. Once your computer is booted up repeat steps 1 thru 3, & you will notice
that JAWS Freedom Scientific is now at the top of the list.
7. Now, arrow down the list of items / programs on the Start-up Page / Tab,
check the items / programs that you unchecked previously, & repeat step #5.
Now Jaws should start on the Windows log-in screen when your computer
starts.  I did the above steps on 4 different computers, both desktop &
lattop, 'm not going to say it works everytime, but it sure works most of
the time, which I can say is a damn site better than before I followed the
above steps.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Tom Behler
To: 'Jaws users list'
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 5:40 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Tw

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Mike O'Brien]

Hi

Unfortunately, the items in the start-up folder are only started after the
user has logged in.  So putting an icon for JAWS in the start-up folder will
not provide speech on the log-in screen.  Now that JAWS is speaking on the
log-in screen, , you could do the following to help if you have the JAWS
starting problem again.  

1.  Start the computer and wait until JAWS starts talking on the log-in
screen.  
2.  Press tab until you get to the password for your user id, counting the
number of times you had to press tab

if JAWS again does not speak on the log-in screen, after waiting for a while
when you turn the computer on, press tab the number of times you counted,
enter your password and press enter.  This should get you logged in.

When you're logged in, you can always start JAWS by pressing Windows-key and
type JAWS?? and press enter. ?? is the version of JAWS you want to start 17,
18, etc..


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:39
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

That's what I believe I did last night.

Kind of stumbled upon the solution, but at least it seems to have worked.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 7:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Another method if you are still having the startup problem would be to take
a JAWS icon and place it in the startup folder, IE the same place where
speak drop box and things like that go to fire up on system boot.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Mike:

It turns out that, for reasons I can't explain, my computer reverted back to
jaws 16, which I also have on the machine.

Now that I'm back in Jaws 17, Outlook is performing as it should.

I still need to trouble-shoot the log-on screen startup issue, but these
steps you gave me should help.

I'll keep the steps handy, and continue work on the startup screen issue in
the morning.

Thank you for your quick response.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi Tom,

You can try the following for your 1st issue, but I can't help with your 2nd
issue:
Note: The steps below were performed running Windows 7 & JAWS versions 15
thru 18.  These steps won't work with Windows 8 or 10, & why they won't is
below my steps.
For those of you that have Jaws set to start at the Windows log-in screen,
but it doesn't, this might work for you.  I looked in, msconfig, & found
that JAWS Freedom Scientific wasn't at the top of the list on the Start-up
Page / Tab, so this is what I did.
1. Press, Windows key + R, to open the run dialog.
2. Type, *msconfig*, without the stars, & press enter.
3. Press, control + tab, until you get to the, Start-up Page / Tab.
4. I arrowed down the list, & unchecked any items above, JAWS Freedom
Scientific, on the Start-up Page / Tab.
Note: Only uncheck the items / programs above JAWS Freedom Scientific, &
nothing else.  Pay close attention to what you uncheck because you are going
to recheck these items / programs shortly.
5. Tab to the, Okay, button, press the spacebar, & tab 1 time to, Restart, &
press enter to restart your computer.
6. Once your computer is booted up repeat steps 1 thru 3, & you will notice
that JAWS Freedom Scientific is now at the top of the list.
7. Now, arrow down the list of items / programs on the Start-up Page / Tab,
check the items / programs that you unchecked previously, & repeat step #5.
Now Jaws should start on the Windows log-in screen when your computer
starts.  I did the above steps on 4 different computers, both desktop &
lattop, 'm not going to say it works everytime, but it sure works most of
the time, which I can say is a damn site better than before I followed the
above steps.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Tom Behler
To: 'Jaws users list'
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 5:40 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


Hello, everyone.



Today, I suddenly have been experiencing two Jaws issues.  Any help with
either of them would be appreciated.



I am using Jaws 17 professional, and Windows 7 here.



1.  When I re-boot my computer after a shut-down, Jaws no longer speaks at
the log-in screen.  I seem to recall that someone else had this issue the
other day, but don't recall the solutio

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Tom Behler]

That's what I believe I did last night.

Kind of stumbled upon the solution, but at least it seems to have worked.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 7:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Another method if you are still having the startup problem would be to take
a JAWS icon and place it in the startup folder, IE the same place where
speak drop box and things like that go to fire up on system boot.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Mike:

It turns out that, for reasons I can't explain, my computer reverted back to
jaws 16, which I also have on the machine.

Now that I'm back in Jaws 17, Outlook is performing as it should.

I still need to trouble-shoot the log-on screen startup issue, but these
steps you gave me should help.

I'll keep the steps handy, and continue work on the startup screen issue in
the morning.

Thank you for your quick response.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi Tom,

You can try the following for your 1st issue, but I can't help with your 2nd
issue:
Note: The steps below were performed running Windows 7 & JAWS versions 15
thru 18.  These steps won't work with Windows 8 or 10, & why they won't is
below my steps.
For those of you that have Jaws set to start at the Windows log-in screen,
but it doesn't, this might work for you.  I looked in, msconfig, & found
that JAWS Freedom Scientific wasn't at the top of the list on the Start-up
Page / Tab, so this is what I did.
1. Press, Windows key + R, to open the run dialog.
2. Type, *msconfig*, without the stars, & press enter.
3. Press, control + tab, until you get to the, Start-up Page / Tab.
4. I arrowed down the list, & unchecked any items above, JAWS Freedom
Scientific, on the Start-up Page / Tab.
Note: Only uncheck the items / programs above JAWS Freedom Scientific, &
nothing else.  Pay close attention to what you uncheck because you are going
to recheck these items / programs shortly.
5. Tab to the, Okay, button, press the spacebar, & tab 1 time to, Restart, &
press enter to restart your computer.
6. Once your computer is booted up repeat steps 1 thru 3, & you will notice
that JAWS Freedom Scientific is now at the top of the list.
7. Now, arrow down the list of items / programs on the Start-up Page / Tab,
check the items / programs that you unchecked previously, & repeat step #5.
Now Jaws should start on the Windows log-in screen when your computer
starts.  I did the above steps on 4 different computers, both desktop &
lattop, 'm not going to say it works everytime, but it sure works most of
the time, which I can say is a damn site better than before I followed the
above steps.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Tom Behler
To: 'Jaws users list'
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 5:40 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


Hello, everyone.



Today, I suddenly have been experiencing two Jaws issues.  Any help with
either of them would be appreciated.



I am using Jaws 17 professional, and Windows 7 here.



1.  When I re-boot my computer after a shut-down, Jaws no longer speaks at
the log-in screen.  I seem to recall that someone else had this issue the
other day, but don't recall the solution.  I have checked "automatically
start Jaws at the log-on screen" in basic Jaws options, and also have told
Jaws to always start after the log-on screen for me as the main user.
Currently, the only way I can start Jaws is via sighted assistance.



And



2.  I am using Outlook 2016 to manage both my University and personal g-mail
accounts.  In both accounts, Jaws is now giving me a very expanded list view
in my message folders, rather than the short list view I have been
accustomed to.  The long message list view gives me many more details than
I'd like.  The abbreviated list view starts with an unread or read status
notification, which is very helpful.  I'm not sure how to get the shorter
list view back.  Currently, the folder pane is set to normal, the reading
pain is set to off, and the to do bar is off.



Thanks for any help anyone can provide.



This is very frustrating, since I don't know what caused these sudden
changes in Jaws behavior.



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan







For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this lis

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Tom Behler]

That's what I thought, but apparently, that did not happen yesterday for
some reason.

I think I have everything resolved now.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,

You mentioned that you were in a different version of JAWS at one point. If
you installed a newer version, it will usually take over the logon, even if
you don't set it up.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Tom Behler" <tombeh...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 19:24
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


Dave:

I just did what you suggested, and made sure the option to automatically
start Jjaws at the log-on screen was checked.  I also checked the other
option to always start Jaws for myself as the main user.

Things now seem to be working properly again.

Not sure how things got changed, so I'll have to monitor things to be sure
they remain the same.

Am actually considering upgrading to Jaws 18, since it is covered by my SMA,
and since I've heard good things about the functionality of the latest
update.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,

Insert+J when you have JAWS 17 running. Then Options/Basics. Go through
Insert+all
the checkboxes in the "Automatically Start JAWS" section. It's likely that
something got unchecked.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Tom Behler" <tombeh...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 19:06
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


Mike:

It turns out that, for reasons I can't explain, my computer reverted back to
jaws 16, which I also have on the machine.

Now that I'm back in Jaws 17, Outlook is performing as it should.

I still need to trouble-shoot the log-on screen startup issue, but these
steps you gave me should help.

I'll keep the steps handy, and continue work on the startup screen issue in
the morning.

Thank you for your quick response.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi Tom,

You can try the following for your 1st issue, but I can't help with your 2nd
issue:
Note: The steps below were performed running Windows 7 & JAWS versions 15
thru 18.  These steps won't work with Windows 8 or 10, & why they won't is
below my steps.
For those of you that have Jaws set to start at the Windows log-in screen,
but it doesn't, this might work for you.  I looked in, msconfig, & found
that JAWS Freedom Scientific wasn't at the top of the list on the Start-up
Page / Tab, so this is what I did.
1. Press, Windows key + R, to open the run dialog.
2. Type, *msconfig*, without the stars, & press enter.
3. Press, control + tab, until you get to the, Start-up Page / Tab.
4. I arrowed down the list, & unchecked any items above, JAWS Freedom
Scientific, on the Start-up Page / Tab.
Note: Only uncheck the items / programs above JAWS Freedom Scientific, &
nothing else.  Pay close attention to what you uncheck because you are going
to recheck these items / programs shortly.
5. Tab to the, Okay, button, press the spacebar, & tab 1 time to, Restart, &
press enter to restart your computer.
6. Once your computer is booted up repeat steps 1 thru 3, & you will notice
that JAWS Freedom Scientific is now at the top of the list.
7. Now, arrow down the list of items / programs on the Start-up Page / Tab,
check the items / programs that you unchecked previously, & repeat step #5.
Now Jaws should start on the Windows log-in screen when your computer
starts.  I did the above steps on 4 different computers, both desktop &
lattop, 'm not going to say it works everytime, but it sure works most of
the time, which I can say is a damn site better than before I followed the
above steps.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
To: 'Jaws users list'
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 5:40 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


Hello, everyone.



Today, I suddenly have been experiencing two Jaws issues.  Any help with
either of them would be appreciated.



I am using Jaws 17 professional, and Windows 7 here.



1.  When I re

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Tom Behler]

Thanks, Mike.

I'll take all of this under advisement as I upgrade to Jaws 18 here.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 11:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi Tom,

It is a good idea to keep at least 1 earlier version of Jaws installed. 
Personally I have J15 thru J18 on all my computers.  The trick is to always
make sure that the version of Jaws you want to use as the default is
correctly configured to do so after updating.  Also, I only keep the Jaws
version icon that I use as the default on my desktop so there's no confusion
if I need to click on the desktop icon because my shortcut keystroke doesn't
work.  My sure fire method for starting any version of Jaws is pinning them
to the Taskbar, & I've got to say I can't recall anytime as of yet when
using a Taskbar keystroke has failed me.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Tom Behler
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


This particular computer is a Dell Lattitude 6540 laptop, running Windows 7.

I always thought it wise to keep an earlier version of Jaws on a computer,
should the most recent version get corrupted, but now, I'm not sure that is
a good idea.

Anyway, may try to upgrade to Jaws 18 soon, and will see what happens from
there.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Something similar used to happen to  me on an old laptop. Never could figure
out why, but it hasn't happened on any of my subsequent machines.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 7:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Dave:

I just did what you suggested, and made sure the option to automatically
start Jjaws at the log-on screen was checked.  I also checked the other
option to always start Jaws for myself as the main user.

Things now seem to be working properly again.

Not sure how things got changed, so I'll have to monitor things to be sure
they remain the same.

Am actually considering upgrading to Jaws 18, since it is covered by my SMA,
and since I've heard good things about the functionality of the latest
update.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,

Insert+J when you have JAWS 17 running. Then Options/Basics. Go through
Insert+all
the checkboxes in the "Automatically Start JAWS" section. It's likely that
something got unchecked.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Tom Behler" <tombeh...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 19:06
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


Mike:

It turns out that, for reasons I can't explain, my computer reverted back to
jaws 16, which I also have on the machine.

Now that I'm back in Jaws 17, Outlook is performing as it should.

I still need to trouble-shoot the log-on screen startup issue, but these
steps you gave me should help.

I'll keep the steps handy, and continue work on the startup screen issue in
the morning.

Thank you for your quick response.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi Tom,

You can try the following for your 1st issue, but I can't help with your 2nd
issue:
Note: The steps below were performed running Windows 7 & JAWS versions 15
thru 18.  These steps won't work with Windows 8 or 10, & why they won't is
below my steps.
For those of you that have Jaws set to start at the Windows log-in screen,
but it doesn't, this might work for you.  I looked in, msconfig, & found
that JAWS Freedom Scientific wasn't at the top of the list on the Start-up
Page / Tab, so this is what I did.
1. Press, Windows key + R, to open the run dialog.
2. Type, *msconfig*, without the stars, & press enter.
3. Press, control + tab, until you get to the, Start-up Page / Tab.
4. I arrowed down the list, & unchecked any items above, JAWS Freedom
Scientific, on the Start-up Page / Tab.
Note: Only un

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[David Ferrin]

Another method if you are still having the startup problem would be to take 
a JAWS icon and place it in the startup folder, IE the same place where 
speak drop box and things like that go to fire up on system boot.


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Behler

Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Mike:

It turns out that, for reasons I can't explain, my computer reverted back to
jaws 16, which I also have on the machine.

Now that I'm back in Jaws 17, Outlook is performing as it should.

I still need to trouble-shoot the log-on screen startup issue, but these
steps you gave me should help.

I'll keep the steps handy, and continue work on the startup screen issue in
the morning.

Thank you for your quick response.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi Tom,

You can try the following for your 1st issue, but I can't help with your 2nd
issue:
Note: The steps below were performed running Windows 7 & JAWS versions 15
thru 18.  These steps won't work with Windows 8 or 10, & why they won't is
below my steps.
For those of you that have Jaws set to start at the Windows log-in screen,
but it doesn't, this might work for you.  I looked in, msconfig, & found
that JAWS Freedom Scientific wasn't at the top of the list on the Start-up
Page / Tab, so this is what I did.
1. Press, Windows key + R, to open the run dialog.
2. Type, *msconfig*, without the stars, & press enter.
3. Press, control + tab, until you get to the, Start-up Page / Tab.
4. I arrowed down the list, & unchecked any items above, JAWS Freedom
Scientific, on the Start-up Page / Tab.
Note: Only uncheck the items / programs above JAWS Freedom Scientific, &
nothing else.  Pay close attention to what you uncheck because you are going
to recheck these items / programs shortly.
5. Tab to the, Okay, button, press the spacebar, & tab 1 time to, Restart, &
press enter to restart your computer.
6. Once your computer is booted up repeat steps 1 thru 3, & you will notice
that JAWS Freedom Scientific is now at the top of the list.
7. Now, arrow down the list of items / programs on the Start-up Page / Tab,
check the items / programs that you unchecked previously, & repeat step #5.
Now Jaws should start on the Windows log-in screen when your computer
starts.  I did the above steps on 4 different computers, both desktop &
lattop, 'm not going to say it works everytime, but it sure works most of
the time, which I can say is a damn site better than before I followed the
above steps.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Tom Behler
To: 'Jaws users list'
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 5:40 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


Hello, everyone.



Today, I suddenly have been experiencing two Jaws issues.  Any help with
either of them would be appreciated.



I am using Jaws 17 professional, and Windows 7 here.



1.  When I re-boot my computer after a shut-down, Jaws no longer speaks at
the log-in screen.  I seem to recall that someone else had this issue the
other day, but don't recall the solution.  I have checked "automatically
start Jaws at the log-on screen" in basic Jaws options, and also have told
Jaws to always start after the log-on screen for me as the main user.
Currently, the only way I can start Jaws is via sighted assistance.



And



2.  I am using Outlook 2016 to manage both my University and personal g-mail
accounts.  In both accounts, Jaws is now giving me a very expanded list view
in my message folders, rather than the short list view I have been
accustomed to.  The long message list view gives me many more details than
I'd like.  The abbreviated list view starts with an unread or read status
notification, which is very helpful.  I'm not sure how to get the shorter
list view back.  Currently, the folder pane is set to normal, the reading
pain is set to off, and the to do bar is off.



Thanks for any help anyone can provide.



This is very frustrating, since I don't know what caused these sudden
changes in Jaws behavior.



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan







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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. 



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Gail the U. S. Male]

Tom, I would highly recommend you're upgrading! I get much better results
using 18 than I did with Jaws 17.  Running a windows 10 dell laptop 64 bit
processor.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Dave:

I just did what you suggested, and made sure the option to automatically
start Jjaws at the log-on screen was checked.  I also checked the other
option to always start Jaws for myself as the main user.

Things now seem to be working properly again.

Not sure how things got changed, so I'll have to monitor things to be sure
they remain the same.

Am actually considering upgrading to Jaws 18, since it is covered by my SMA,
and since I've heard good things about the functionality of the latest
update.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,

Insert+J when you have JAWS 17 running. Then Options/Basics. Go through 
Insert+all
the checkboxes in the "Automatically Start JAWS" section. It's likely that
something got unchecked.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Tom Behler" <tombeh...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 19:06
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


Mike:

It turns out that, for reasons I can't explain, my computer reverted back to
jaws 16, which I also have on the machine.

Now that I'm back in Jaws 17, Outlook is performing as it should.

I still need to trouble-shoot the log-on screen startup issue, but these
steps you gave me should help.

I'll keep the steps handy, and continue work on the startup screen issue in
the morning.

Thank you for your quick response.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi Tom,

You can try the following for your 1st issue, but I can't help with your 2nd
issue:
Note: The steps below were performed running Windows 7 & JAWS versions 15
thru 18.  These steps won't work with Windows 8 or 10, & why they won't is
below my steps.
For those of you that have Jaws set to start at the Windows log-in screen,
but it doesn't, this might work for you.  I looked in, msconfig, & found
that JAWS Freedom Scientific wasn't at the top of the list on the Start-up
Page / Tab, so this is what I did.
1. Press, Windows key + R, to open the run dialog.
2. Type, *msconfig*, without the stars, & press enter.
3. Press, control + tab, until you get to the, Start-up Page / Tab.
4. I arrowed down the list, & unchecked any items above, JAWS Freedom
Scientific, on the Start-up Page / Tab.
Note: Only uncheck the items / programs above JAWS Freedom Scientific, &
nothing else.  Pay close attention to what you uncheck because you are going
to recheck these items / programs shortly.
5. Tab to the, Okay, button, press the spacebar, & tab 1 time to, Restart, &
press enter to restart your computer.
6. Once your computer is booted up repeat steps 1 thru 3, & you will notice
that JAWS Freedom Scientific is now at the top of the list.
7. Now, arrow down the list of items / programs on the Start-up Page / Tab,
check the items / programs that you unchecked previously, & repeat step #5.
Now Jaws should start on the Windows log-in screen when your computer
starts.  I did the above steps on 4 different computers, both desktop &
lattop, 'm not going to say it works everytime, but it sure works most of
the time, which I can say is a damn site better than before I followed the
above steps.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Tom Behler
To: 'Jaws users list'
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 5:40 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


Hello, everyone.



Today, I suddenly have been experiencing two Jaws issues.  Any help with
either of them would be appreciated.



I am using Jaws 17 professional, and Windows 7 here.



1.  When I re-boot my computer after a shut-down, Jaws no longer speaks at
the log-in screen.  I seem to recall that someone else had this issue the
other day, but don't recall the solution.  I have checked "automatically
start Jaws at the log-on screen" in basic Jaws options, and also have told
Jaws to always start after the log-on screen for me as the main user.
Currently, the only way I can start Jaws is via sighted assistance.



And

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Mike B.]

Hi Tom,

It is a good idea to keep at least 1 earlier version of Jaws installed. 
Personally I have J15 thru J18 on all my computers.  The trick is to always 
make sure that the version of Jaws you want to use as the default is 
correctly configured to do so after updating.  Also, I only keep the Jaws 
version icon that I use as the default on my desktop so there's no confusion 
if I need to click on the desktop icon because my shortcut keystroke doesn't 
work.  My sure fire method for starting any version of Jaws is pinning them 
to the Taskbar, & I've got to say I can't recall anytime as of yet when 
using a Taskbar keystroke has failed me.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Behler
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


This particular computer is a Dell Lattitude 6540 laptop, running Windows 7.

I always thought it wise to keep an earlier version of Jaws on a computer,
should the most recent version get corrupted, but now, I'm not sure that is
a good idea.

Anyway, may try to upgrade to Jaws 18 soon, and will see what happens from
there.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Something similar used to happen to  me on an old laptop. Never could figure
out why, but it hasn't happened on any of my subsequent machines.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 7:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Dave:

I just did what you suggested, and made sure the option to automatically
start Jjaws at the log-on screen was checked.  I also checked the other
option to always start Jaws for myself as the main user.

Things now seem to be working properly again.

Not sure how things got changed, so I'll have to monitor things to be sure
they remain the same.

Am actually considering upgrading to Jaws 18, since it is covered by my SMA,
and since I've heard good things about the functionality of the latest
update.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,

Insert+J when you have JAWS 17 running. Then Options/Basics. Go through
Insert+all
the checkboxes in the "Automatically Start JAWS" section. It's likely that
something got unchecked.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Tom Behler" <tombeh...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 19:06
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


Mike:

It turns out that, for reasons I can't explain, my computer reverted back to
jaws 16, which I also have on the machine.

Now that I'm back in Jaws 17, Outlook is performing as it should.

I still need to trouble-shoot the log-on screen startup issue, but these
steps you gave me should help.

I'll keep the steps handy, and continue work on the startup screen issue in
the morning.

Thank you for your quick response.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi Tom,

You can try the following for your 1st issue, but I can't help with your 2nd
issue:
Note: The steps below were performed running Windows 7 & JAWS versions 15
thru 18.  These steps won't work with Windows 8 or 10, & why they won't is
below my steps.
For those of you that have Jaws set to start at the Windows log-in screen,
but it doesn't, this might work for you.  I looked in, msconfig, & found
that JAWS Freedom Scientific wasn't at the top of the list on the Start-up
Page / Tab, so this is what I did.
1. Press, Windows key + R, to open the run dialog.
2. Type, *msconfig*, without the stars, & press enter.
3. Press, control + tab, until you get to the, Start-up Page / Tab.
4. I arrowed down the list, & unchecked any items above, JAWS Freedom
Scientific, on the Start-up Page / Tab.
Note: Only uncheck the items / programs above JAWS Freedom Scientific, &
nothing else.  Pay close attention to what you uncheck because you are going
to recheck these items / programs shortly.
5. Tab to the, Okay, button, press the spacebar, & tab 1 time to, Restart, &
press enter to restart your computer.
6. Once your computer is booted up r

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Dave]

Tom,

You mentioned that you were in a different version of JAWS at one point. If 
you installed a newer version, it will usually take over the logon, even if 
you don't set it up.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Behler" <tombeh...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 19:24
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


Dave:

I just did what you suggested, and made sure the option to automatically
start Jjaws at the log-on screen was checked.  I also checked the other
option to always start Jaws for myself as the main user.

Things now seem to be working properly again.

Not sure how things got changed, so I'll have to monitor things to be sure
they remain the same.

Am actually considering upgrading to Jaws 18, since it is covered by my SMA,
and since I've heard good things about the functionality of the latest
update.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,

Insert+J when you have JAWS 17 running. Then Options/Basics. Go through
Insert+all
the checkboxes in the "Automatically Start JAWS" section. It's likely that
something got unchecked.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Tom Behler" <tombeh...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 19:06
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


Mike:

It turns out that, for reasons I can't explain, my computer reverted back to
jaws 16, which I also have on the machine.

Now that I'm back in Jaws 17, Outlook is performing as it should.

I still need to trouble-shoot the log-on screen startup issue, but these
steps you gave me should help.

I'll keep the steps handy, and continue work on the startup screen issue in
the morning.

Thank you for your quick response.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi Tom,

You can try the following for your 1st issue, but I can't help with your 2nd
issue:
Note: The steps below were performed running Windows 7 & JAWS versions 15
thru 18.  These steps won't work with Windows 8 or 10, & why they won't is
below my steps.
For those of you that have Jaws set to start at the Windows log-in screen,
but it doesn't, this might work for you.  I looked in, msconfig, & found
that JAWS Freedom Scientific wasn't at the top of the list on the Start-up
Page / Tab, so this is what I did.
1. Press, Windows key + R, to open the run dialog.
2. Type, *msconfig*, without the stars, & press enter.
3. Press, control + tab, until you get to the, Start-up Page / Tab.
4. I arrowed down the list, & unchecked any items above, JAWS Freedom
Scientific, on the Start-up Page / Tab.
Note: Only uncheck the items / programs above JAWS Freedom Scientific, &
nothing else.  Pay close attention to what you uncheck because you are going
to recheck these items / programs shortly.
5. Tab to the, Okay, button, press the spacebar, & tab 1 time to, Restart, &
press enter to restart your computer.
6. Once your computer is booted up repeat steps 1 thru 3, & you will notice
that JAWS Freedom Scientific is now at the top of the list.
7. Now, arrow down the list of items / programs on the Start-up Page / Tab,
check the items / programs that you unchecked previously, & repeat step #5.
Now Jaws should start on the Windows log-in screen when your computer
starts.  I did the above steps on 4 different computers, both desktop &
lattop, 'm not going to say it works everytime, but it sure works most of
the time, which I can say is a damn site better than before I followed the
above steps.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
To: 'Jaws users list'
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 5:40 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


Hello, everyone.



Today, I suddenly have been experiencing two Jaws issues.  Any help with
either of them would be appreciated.



I am using Jaws 17 professional, and Windows 7 here.



1.  When I re-boot my computer after a shut-down, Jaws no longer speaks at
the log-in screen.  I seem to recall that someone else had this issue the
other day, but don't recall the solution.  I have checked "automatically
start Jaws at the log-on screen" in basic Jaws options, and also have told
Jaws to always start after the log-on screen for me as the main user.
Currently, the 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Tom Behler]

This particular computer is a Dell Lattitude 6540 laptop, running Windows 7.

I always thought it wise to keep an earlier version of Jaws on a computer,
should the most recent version get corrupted, but now, I'm not sure that is
a good idea.

Anyway, may try to upgrade to Jaws 18 soon, and will see what happens from
there.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Something similar used to happen to  me on an old laptop. Never could figure
out why, but it hasn't happened on any of my subsequent machines.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 7:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Dave:

I just did what you suggested, and made sure the option to automatically
start Jjaws at the log-on screen was checked.  I also checked the other
option to always start Jaws for myself as the main user.

Things now seem to be working properly again.

Not sure how things got changed, so I'll have to monitor things to be sure
they remain the same.

Am actually considering upgrading to Jaws 18, since it is covered by my SMA,
and since I've heard good things about the functionality of the latest
update.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,

Insert+J when you have JAWS 17 running. Then Options/Basics. Go through 
Insert+all
the checkboxes in the "Automatically Start JAWS" section. It's likely that
something got unchecked.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Tom Behler" <tombeh...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 19:06
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


Mike:

It turns out that, for reasons I can't explain, my computer reverted back to
jaws 16, which I also have on the machine.

Now that I'm back in Jaws 17, Outlook is performing as it should.

I still need to trouble-shoot the log-on screen startup issue, but these
steps you gave me should help.

I'll keep the steps handy, and continue work on the startup screen issue in
the morning.

Thank you for your quick response.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi Tom,

You can try the following for your 1st issue, but I can't help with your 2nd
issue:
Note: The steps below were performed running Windows 7 & JAWS versions 15
thru 18.  These steps won't work with Windows 8 or 10, & why they won't is
below my steps.
For those of you that have Jaws set to start at the Windows log-in screen,
but it doesn't, this might work for you.  I looked in, msconfig, & found
that JAWS Freedom Scientific wasn't at the top of the list on the Start-up
Page / Tab, so this is what I did.
1. Press, Windows key + R, to open the run dialog.
2. Type, *msconfig*, without the stars, & press enter.
3. Press, control + tab, until you get to the, Start-up Page / Tab.
4. I arrowed down the list, & unchecked any items above, JAWS Freedom
Scientific, on the Start-up Page / Tab.
Note: Only uncheck the items / programs above JAWS Freedom Scientific, &
nothing else.  Pay close attention to what you uncheck because you are going
to recheck these items / programs shortly.
5. Tab to the, Okay, button, press the spacebar, & tab 1 time to, Restart, &
press enter to restart your computer.
6. Once your computer is booted up repeat steps 1 thru 3, & you will notice
that JAWS Freedom Scientific is now at the top of the list.
7. Now, arrow down the list of items / programs on the Start-up Page / Tab,
check the items / programs that you unchecked previously, & repeat step #5.
Now Jaws should start on the Windows log-in screen when your computer
starts.  I did the above steps on 4 different computers, both desktop &
lattop, 'm not going to say it works everytime, but it sure works most of
the time, which I can say is a damn site better than before I followed the
above steps.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Tom Behler
To: 'Jaws users list'
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 5:40 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


Hello, everyone.



Today, I suddenly have been experiencing two Ja

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Cristóbal]

Something similar used to happen to  me on an old laptop. Never could figure
out why, but it hasn't happened on any of my subsequent machines.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 7:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Dave:

I just did what you suggested, and made sure the option to automatically
start Jjaws at the log-on screen was checked.  I also checked the other
option to always start Jaws for myself as the main user.

Things now seem to be working properly again.

Not sure how things got changed, so I'll have to monitor things to be sure
they remain the same.

Am actually considering upgrading to Jaws 18, since it is covered by my SMA,
and since I've heard good things about the functionality of the latest
update.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,

Insert+J when you have JAWS 17 running. Then Options/Basics. Go through 
Insert+all
the checkboxes in the "Automatically Start JAWS" section. It's likely that
something got unchecked.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Tom Behler" <tombeh...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 19:06
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


Mike:

It turns out that, for reasons I can't explain, my computer reverted back to
jaws 16, which I also have on the machine.

Now that I'm back in Jaws 17, Outlook is performing as it should.

I still need to trouble-shoot the log-on screen startup issue, but these
steps you gave me should help.

I'll keep the steps handy, and continue work on the startup screen issue in
the morning.

Thank you for your quick response.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi Tom,

You can try the following for your 1st issue, but I can't help with your 2nd
issue:
Note: The steps below were performed running Windows 7 & JAWS versions 15
thru 18.  These steps won't work with Windows 8 or 10, & why they won't is
below my steps.
For those of you that have Jaws set to start at the Windows log-in screen,
but it doesn't, this might work for you.  I looked in, msconfig, & found
that JAWS Freedom Scientific wasn't at the top of the list on the Start-up
Page / Tab, so this is what I did.
1. Press, Windows key + R, to open the run dialog.
2. Type, *msconfig*, without the stars, & press enter.
3. Press, control + tab, until you get to the, Start-up Page / Tab.
4. I arrowed down the list, & unchecked any items above, JAWS Freedom
Scientific, on the Start-up Page / Tab.
Note: Only uncheck the items / programs above JAWS Freedom Scientific, &
nothing else.  Pay close attention to what you uncheck because you are going
to recheck these items / programs shortly.
5. Tab to the, Okay, button, press the spacebar, & tab 1 time to, Restart, &
press enter to restart your computer.
6. Once your computer is booted up repeat steps 1 thru 3, & you will notice
that JAWS Freedom Scientific is now at the top of the list.
7. Now, arrow down the list of items / programs on the Start-up Page / Tab,
check the items / programs that you unchecked previously, & repeat step #5.
Now Jaws should start on the Windows log-in screen when your computer
starts.  I did the above steps on 4 different computers, both desktop &
lattop, 'm not going to say it works everytime, but it sure works most of
the time, which I can say is a damn site better than before I followed the
above steps.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Tom Behler
To: 'Jaws users list'
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 5:40 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


Hello, everyone.



Today, I suddenly have been experiencing two Jaws issues.  Any help with
either of them would be appreciated.



I am using Jaws 17 professional, and Windows 7 here.



1.  When I re-boot my computer after a shut-down, Jaws no longer speaks at
the log-in screen.  I seem to recall that someone else had this issue the
other day, but don't recall the solution.  I have checked "automatically
start Jaws at the log-on screen" in basic Jaws options, and also have told
Jaws to always start after the log-on screen for me as the main user.
Currently, the only way I can start Jaws is via sighted assistance.



And



2.  I am 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Tom Behler]

Dave:

I just did what you suggested, and made sure the option to automatically
start Jjaws at the log-on screen was checked.  I also checked the other
option to always start Jaws for myself as the main user.

Things now seem to be working properly again.

Not sure how things got changed, so I'll have to monitor things to be sure
they remain the same.

Am actually considering upgrading to Jaws 18, since it is covered by my SMA,
and since I've heard good things about the functionality of the latest
update.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Tom,

Insert+J when you have JAWS 17 running. Then Options/Basics. Go through 
Insert+all
the checkboxes in the "Automatically Start JAWS" section. It's likely that
something got unchecked.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Tom Behler" <tombeh...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 19:06
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


Mike:

It turns out that, for reasons I can't explain, my computer reverted back to
jaws 16, which I also have on the machine.

Now that I'm back in Jaws 17, Outlook is performing as it should.

I still need to trouble-shoot the log-on screen startup issue, but these
steps you gave me should help.

I'll keep the steps handy, and continue work on the startup screen issue in
the morning.

Thank you for your quick response.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi Tom,

You can try the following for your 1st issue, but I can't help with your 2nd
issue:
Note: The steps below were performed running Windows 7 & JAWS versions 15
thru 18.  These steps won't work with Windows 8 or 10, & why they won't is
below my steps.
For those of you that have Jaws set to start at the Windows log-in screen,
but it doesn't, this might work for you.  I looked in, msconfig, & found
that JAWS Freedom Scientific wasn't at the top of the list on the Start-up
Page / Tab, so this is what I did.
1. Press, Windows key + R, to open the run dialog.
2. Type, *msconfig*, without the stars, & press enter.
3. Press, control + tab, until you get to the, Start-up Page / Tab.
4. I arrowed down the list, & unchecked any items above, JAWS Freedom
Scientific, on the Start-up Page / Tab.
Note: Only uncheck the items / programs above JAWS Freedom Scientific, &
nothing else.  Pay close attention to what you uncheck because you are going
to recheck these items / programs shortly.
5. Tab to the, Okay, button, press the spacebar, & tab 1 time to, Restart, &
press enter to restart your computer.
6. Once your computer is booted up repeat steps 1 thru 3, & you will notice
that JAWS Freedom Scientific is now at the top of the list.
7. Now, arrow down the list of items / programs on the Start-up Page / Tab,
check the items / programs that you unchecked previously, & repeat step #5.
Now Jaws should start on the Windows log-in screen when your computer
starts.  I did the above steps on 4 different computers, both desktop &
lattop, 'm not going to say it works everytime, but it sure works most of
the time, which I can say is a damn site better than before I followed the
above steps.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Tom Behler
To: 'Jaws users list'
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 5:40 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


Hello, everyone.



Today, I suddenly have been experiencing two Jaws issues.  Any help with
either of them would be appreciated.



I am using Jaws 17 professional, and Windows 7 here.



1.  When I re-boot my computer after a shut-down, Jaws no longer speaks at
the log-in screen.  I seem to recall that someone else had this issue the
other day, but don't recall the solution.  I have checked "automatically
start Jaws at the log-on screen" in basic Jaws options, and also have told
Jaws to always start after the log-on screen for me as the main user.
Currently, the only way I can start Jaws is via sighted assistance.



And



2.  I am using Outlook 2016 to manage both my University and personal g-mail
accounts.  In both accounts, Jaws is now giving me a very expanded list view
in my message folders, rather than the short list view I have been
accustomed to.  The long message list view gives me many more details than
I'd like.  The abbreviated list view starts with an unread or read status
notification, which is very helpful.  

Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Dave]

Tom,

Insert+J when you have JAWS 17 running. Then Options/Basics. Go through all 
the checkboxes in the "Automatically Start JAWS" section. It's likely that 
something got unchecked.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Behler" <tombeh...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 19:06
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


Mike:

It turns out that, for reasons I can't explain, my computer reverted back to
jaws 16, which I also have on the machine.

Now that I'm back in Jaws 17, Outlook is performing as it should.

I still need to trouble-shoot the log-on screen startup issue, but these
steps you gave me should help.

I'll keep the steps handy, and continue work on the startup screen issue in
the morning.

Thank you for your quick response.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi Tom,

You can try the following for your 1st issue, but I can't help with your 2nd
issue:
Note: The steps below were performed running Windows 7 & JAWS versions 15
thru 18.  These steps won't work with Windows 8 or 10, & why they won't is
below my steps.
For those of you that have Jaws set to start at the Windows log-in screen,
but it doesn't, this might work for you.  I looked in, msconfig, & found
that JAWS Freedom Scientific wasn't at the top of the list on the Start-up
Page / Tab, so this is what I did.
1. Press, Windows key + R, to open the run dialog.
2. Type, *msconfig*, without the stars, & press enter.
3. Press, control + tab, until you get to the, Start-up Page / Tab.
4. I arrowed down the list, & unchecked any items above, JAWS Freedom
Scientific, on the Start-up Page / Tab.
Note: Only uncheck the items / programs above JAWS Freedom Scientific, &
nothing else.  Pay close attention to what you uncheck because you are going
to recheck these items / programs shortly.
5. Tab to the, Okay, button, press the spacebar, & tab 1 time to, Restart, &
press enter to restart your computer.
6. Once your computer is booted up repeat steps 1 thru 3, & you will notice
that JAWS Freedom Scientific is now at the top of the list.
7. Now, arrow down the list of items / programs on the Start-up Page / Tab,
check the items / programs that you unchecked previously, & repeat step #5.
Now Jaws should start on the Windows log-in screen when your computer
starts.  I did the above steps on 4 different computers, both desktop &
lattop, 'm not going to say it works everytime, but it sure works most of
the time, which I can say is a damn site better than before I followed the
above steps.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Tom Behler
To: 'Jaws users list'
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 5:40 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


Hello, everyone.



Today, I suddenly have been experiencing two Jaws issues.  Any help with
either of them would be appreciated.



I am using Jaws 17 professional, and Windows 7 here.



1.  When I re-boot my computer after a shut-down, Jaws no longer speaks at
the log-in screen.  I seem to recall that someone else had this issue the
other day, but don't recall the solution.  I have checked "automatically
start Jaws at the log-on screen" in basic Jaws options, and also have told
Jaws to always start after the log-on screen for me as the main user.
Currently, the only way I can start Jaws is via sighted assistance.



And



2.  I am using Outlook 2016 to manage both my University and personal g-mail
accounts.  In both accounts, Jaws is now giving me a very expanded list view
in my message folders, rather than the short list view I have been
accustomed to.  The long message list view gives me many more details than
I'd like.  The abbreviated list view starts with an unread or read status
notification, which is very helpful.  I'm not sure how to get the shorter
list view back.  Currently, the folder pane is set to normal, the reading
pain is set to off, and the to do bar is off.



Thanks for any help anyone can provide.



This is very frustrating, since I don't know what caused these sudden
changes in Jaws behavior.



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan







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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Tom Behler]

Mike:

It turns out that, for reasons I can't explain, my computer reverted back to
jaws 16, which I also have on the machine.

Now that I'm back in Jaws 17, Outlook is performing as it should.

I still need to trouble-shoot the log-on screen startup issue, but these
steps you gave me should help.

I'll keep the steps handy, and continue work on the startup screen issue in
the morning.

Thank you for your quick response.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

Hi Tom,

You can try the following for your 1st issue, but I can't help with your 2nd
issue:
Note: The steps below were performed running Windows 7 & JAWS versions 15
thru 18.  These steps won't work with Windows 8 or 10, & why they won't is
below my steps.
For those of you that have Jaws set to start at the Windows log-in screen,
but it doesn't, this might work for you.  I looked in, msconfig, & found
that JAWS Freedom Scientific wasn't at the top of the list on the Start-up
Page / Tab, so this is what I did.
1. Press, Windows key + R, to open the run dialog.
2. Type, *msconfig*, without the stars, & press enter.
3. Press, control + tab, until you get to the, Start-up Page / Tab.
4. I arrowed down the list, & unchecked any items above, JAWS Freedom
Scientific, on the Start-up Page / Tab.
Note: Only uncheck the items / programs above JAWS Freedom Scientific, &
nothing else.  Pay close attention to what you uncheck because you are going
to recheck these items / programs shortly.
5. Tab to the, Okay, button, press the spacebar, & tab 1 time to, Restart, &
press enter to restart your computer.
6. Once your computer is booted up repeat steps 1 thru 3, & you will notice
that JAWS Freedom Scientific is now at the top of the list.
7. Now, arrow down the list of items / programs on the Start-up Page / Tab,
check the items / programs that you unchecked previously, & repeat step #5.
Now Jaws should start on the Windows log-in screen when your computer
starts.  I did the above steps on 4 different computers, both desktop &
lattop, 'm not going to say it works everytime, but it sure works most of
the time, which I can say is a damn site better than before I followed the
above steps.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Tom Behler
To: 'Jaws users list'
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 5:40 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


Hello, everyone.



Today, I suddenly have been experiencing two Jaws issues.  Any help with
either of them would be appreciated.



I am using Jaws 17 professional, and Windows 7 here.



1.  When I re-boot my computer after a shut-down, Jaws no longer speaks at
the log-in screen.  I seem to recall that someone else had this issue the
other day, but don't recall the solution.  I have checked "automatically
start Jaws at the log-on screen" in basic Jaws options, and also have told
Jaws to always start after the log-on screen for me as the main user.
Currently, the only way I can start Jaws is via sighted assistance.



And



2.  I am using Outlook 2016 to manage both my University and personal g-mail
accounts.  In both accounts, Jaws is now giving me a very expanded list view
in my message folders, rather than the short list view I have been
accustomed to.  The long message list view gives me many more details than
I'd like.  The abbreviated list view starts with an unread or read status
notification, which is very helpful.  I'm not sure how to get the shorter
list view back.  Currently, the folder pane is set to normal, the reading
pain is set to off, and the to do bar is off.



Thanks for any help anyone can provide.



This is very frustrating, since I don't know what caused these sudden
changes in Jaws behavior.



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan







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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Mike B.]

Hi Tom,

You can try the following for your 1st issue, but I can't help with your 2nd 
issue:
Note: The steps below were performed running Windows 7 & JAWS versions 15 
thru 18.  These steps won't work with Windows 8 or 10, & why they won't is 
below my steps.
For those of you that have Jaws set to start at the Windows log-in screen, 
but it doesn't, this might work for you.  I looked in, msconfig, & found 
that JAWS Freedom Scientific wasn't at the top of the list on the Start-up 
Page / Tab, so this is what I did.
1. Press, Windows key + R, to open the run dialog.
2. Type, *msconfig*, without the stars, & press enter.
3. Press, control + tab, until you get to the, Start-up Page / Tab.
4. I arrowed down the list, & unchecked any items above, JAWS Freedom 
Scientific, on the Start-up Page / Tab.
Note: Only uncheck the items / programs above JAWS Freedom Scientific, & 
nothing else.  Pay close attention to what you uncheck because you are going 
to recheck these items / programs shortly.
5. Tab to the, Okay, button, press the spacebar, & tab 1 time to, Restart, & 
press enter to restart your computer.
6. Once your computer is booted up repeat steps 1 thru 3, & you will notice 
that JAWS Freedom Scientific is now at the top of the list.
7. Now, arrow down the list of items / programs on the Start-up Page / Tab, 
check the items / programs that you unchecked previously, & repeat step #5.
Now Jaws should start on the Windows log-in screen when your computer 
starts.  I did the above steps on 4 different computers, both desktop & 
lattop, 'm not going to say it works everytime, but it sure works most of 
the time, which I can say is a damn site better than before I followed the 
above steps.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Behler
To: 'Jaws users list'
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 5:40 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues


Hello, everyone.



Today, I suddenly have been experiencing two Jaws issues.  Any help with
either of them would be appreciated.



I am using Jaws 17 professional, and Windows 7 here.



1.  When I re-boot my computer after a shut-down, Jaws no longer speaks at
the log-in screen.  I seem to recall that someone else had this issue the
other day, but don't recall the solution.  I have checked "automatically
start Jaws at the log-on screen" in basic Jaws options, and also have told
Jaws to always start after the log-on screen for me as the main user.
Currently, the only way I can start Jaws is via sighted assistance.



And



2.  I am using Outlook 2016 to manage both my University and personal g-mail
accounts.  In both accounts, Jaws is now giving me a very expanded list view
in my message folders, rather than the short list view I have been
accustomed to.  The long message list view gives me many more details than
I'd like.  The abbreviated list view starts with an unread or read status
notification, which is very helpful.  I'm not sure how to get the shorter
list view back.  Currently, the folder pane is set to normal, the reading
pain is set to off, and the to do bar is off.



Thanks for any help anyone can provide.



This is very frustrating, since I don't know what caused these sudden
changes in Jaws behavior.



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan







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[JAWS-Users] Need Help With Two Jaws Issues

[Tom Behler]

Hello, everyone.

 

Today, I suddenly have been experiencing two Jaws issues.  Any help with
either of them would be appreciated.

 

I am using Jaws 17 professional, and Windows 7 here.

 

1.  When I re-boot my computer after a shut-down, Jaws no longer speaks at
the log-in screen.  I seem to recall that someone else had this issue the
other day, but don't recall the solution.  I have checked "automatically
start Jaws at the log-on screen" in basic Jaws options, and also have told
Jaws to always start after the log-on screen for me as the main user.
Currently, the only way I can start Jaws is via sighted assistance.

 

And

 

2.  I am using Outlook 2016 to manage both my University and personal g-mail
accounts.  In both accounts, Jaws is now giving me a very expanded list view
in my message folders, rather than the short list view I have been
accustomed to.  The long message list view gives me many more details than
I'd like.  The abbreviated list view starts with an unread or read status
notification, which is very helpful.  I'm not sure how to get the shorter
list view back.  Currently, the folder pane is set to normal, the reading
pain is set to off, and the to do bar is off.

 

Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

 

This is very frustrating, since I don't know what caused these sudden
changes in Jaws behavior.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Outlook 2010 message rules wizard

[The Iowa Gal]

Hi John, thanks so much for this, will give it a try and I'll get back to
you if I run into any snags. Best, Norma


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of john_Justice
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 7:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Outlook 2010 message rules wizard

Norma,
Your folders  are arranged in what Windows calls a tree.  But, before you
can create a new folder, you first have to choose the option indicating that
you want to move the message to a folder.  Once you have checked that box,
you will be presented with a list of your current folders.  In order to
create a new one, use your up arrow to go to the top of the list and listen
for the root of the tree, usually your name.  Then shift tab to where New
Folder is indicated.  Press enter to activate that option.  Type the name of
the folder.  Confirm that it will contain mail or post items.  Then tab to
Okay and press enter.  

Using this method, the folder will be shown in your main tree display.  
Be careful to always move to the top because you will inadvertently create a
folder within a folder.  For example, if your focus is on the In box, you
can create a folder within the In box.  Personally, I don't do that because
accessing those folders in Outlook 10 can be difficult. 


This is very general but it might help to clear up some of the confusion.
Please feel free to e-mail me off list if you need further clarification.

JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of john r vaugh...@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 9:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Outlook 2010 message rules wizard

Norma, to create a rule, while in the "in box" and on a message, I press the
application key and down arrow to rules.  This puts me in the dialogue box
with a number of controls that deal with various parameters to make the rule
which I get to by tabbing through the dialogue box.
Hope this works for you.
John
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of The Iowa Gal
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2016 8:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Outlook 2010 message rules wizard

Hi, thanks for this, but it doesn't allow me to create a new folder to
direct messages to. Unless I am missing something, which is certainly
possible. Guess if I can't get the list boxes to read I'll contact Jaws tech
support. Thanks, Norma


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 1:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Outlook 2010 message rules wizard

The way I create a rule in Outlook 2010 is to highlight a message I'd like
to be diverted to the new folder, then press the application key, then arrow
up to "rules submenu," press enter, and go from there.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of The Iowa Gal
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 10:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Outlook 2010 message rules wizard

Hi group,

I'm using Jaws 17 latest build with outlook 2010. When in the message rules
wizard, Jaws is not reading the list of items in the list boxes. I'm using
the wizard that comes up when I go to File then Info then  I hit the "Manage
Rules and Alerts" button. I have created rules previously but I thought
there was a simpler wizard than the one I'm trying to use now. Sort of a
quick and dirty method that, as I recall, was more useable with Jaws.
Anyway, I would appreciate some assistance with this process, and thanks in
advance.

Best,
Norma



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Outlook 2010 message rules wizard

[john_Justice]

Norma,
Your folders  are arranged in what Windows calls a tree.  But, before you
can create a new folder, you first have to choose the option indicating that
you want to move the message to a folder.  Once you have checked that box,
you will be presented with a list of your current folders.  In order to
create a new one, use your up arrow to go to the top of the list and listen
for the root of the tree, usually your name.  Then shift tab to where New
Folder is indicated.  Press enter to activate that option.  Type the name of
the folder.  Confirm that it will contain mail or post items.  Then tab to
Okay and press enter.  

Using this method, the folder will be shown in your main tree display.  
Be careful to always move to the top because you will inadvertently create a
folder within a folder.  For example, if your focus is on the In box, you
can create a folder within the In box.  Personally, I don't do that because
accessing those folders in Outlook 10 can be difficult. 


This is very general but it might help to clear up some of the confusion.
Please feel free to e-mail me off list if you need further clarification.

JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of john r vaugh...@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 9:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Outlook 2010 message rules wizard

Norma, to create a rule, while in the "in box" and on a message, I press the
application key and down arrow to rules.  This puts me in the dialogue box
with a number of controls that deal with various parameters to make the rule
which I get to by tabbing through the dialogue box.
Hope this works for you.
John
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of The Iowa Gal
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2016 8:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Outlook 2010 message rules wizard

Hi, thanks for this, but it doesn't allow me to create a new folder to
direct messages to. Unless I am missing something, which is certainly
possible. Guess if I can't get the list boxes to read I'll contact Jaws tech
support. Thanks, Norma


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 1:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Outlook 2010 message rules wizard

The way I create a rule in Outlook 2010 is to highlight a message I'd like
to be diverted to the new folder, then press the application key, then arrow
up to "rules submenu," press enter, and go from there.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of The Iowa Gal
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 10:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Outlook 2010 message rules wizard

Hi group,

I'm using Jaws 17 latest build with outlook 2010. When in the message rules
wizard, Jaws is not reading the list of items in the list boxes. I'm using
the wizard that comes up when I go to File then Info then  I hit the "Manage
Rules and Alerts" button. I have created rules previously but I thought
there was a simpler wizard than the one I'm trying to use now. Sort of a
quick and dirty method that, as I recall, was more useable with Jaws.
Anyway, I would appreciate some assistance with this process, and thanks in
advance.

Best,
Norma



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Outlook 2010 message rules wizard

[john r vaugh...@comcast.net]

Norma, to create a rule, while in the "in box" and on a message, I press the
application key and down arrow to rules.  This puts me in the dialogue box
with a number of controls that deal with various parameters to make the rule
which I get to by tabbing through the dialogue box.
Hope this works for you.
John
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of The Iowa Gal
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2016 8:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Outlook 2010 message rules wizard

Hi, thanks for this, but it doesn't allow me to create a new folder to
direct messages to. Unless I am missing something, which is certainly
possible. Guess if I can't get the list boxes to read I'll contact Jaws tech
support. Thanks, Norma


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 1:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Outlook 2010 message rules wizard

The way I create a rule in Outlook 2010 is to highlight a message I'd like
to be diverted to the new folder, then press the application key, then arrow
up to "rules submenu," press enter, and go from there.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of The Iowa Gal
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 10:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Outlook 2010 message rules wizard

Hi group,

I'm using Jaws 17 latest build with outlook 2010. When in the message rules
wizard, Jaws is not reading the list of items in the list boxes. I'm using
the wizard that comes up when I go to File then Info then  I hit the "Manage
Rules and Alerts" button. I have created rules previously but I thought
there was a simpler wizard than the one I'm trying to use now. Sort of a
quick and dirty method that, as I recall, was more useable with Jaws.
Anyway, I would appreciate some assistance with this process, and thanks in
advance.

Best,
Norma



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Outlook 2010 message rules wizard

[TheHangMan]

 Hi,
Outlook:
Try moving a mail to a folder by pressing control shift V,
Then tab to the new button enter...,
That will create a new folder and name it, and Create the rule later,
Since the wizard ain't wizzing...
Jorge






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Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 10:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Outlook 2010 message rules wizard

Norma,

I create a new folder independently with the shift-control-e shortcut before
setting a message rule. I believe a new folder can be created while setting
a message rule, but I find that dialog difficult enough. Doing the two steps
separately simplifies the procedure. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of The Iowa Gal
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 8:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Outlook 2010 message rules wizard

Hi, thanks for this, but it doesn't allow me to create a new folder to
direct messages to. Unless I am missing something, which is certainly
possible. Guess if I can't get the list boxes to read I'll contact Jaws tech
support. Thanks, Norma


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 1:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Outlook 2010 message rules wizard

The way I create a rule in Outlook 2010 is to highlight a message I'd like
to be diverted to the new folder, then press the application key, then arrow
up to "rules submenu," press enter, and go from there.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of The Iowa Gal
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 10:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Outlook 2010 message rules wizard

Hi group,

I'm using Jaws 17 latest build with outlook 2010. When in the message rules
wizard, Jaws is not reading the list of items in the list boxes. I'm using
the wizard that comes up when I go to File then Info then  I hit the "Manage
Rules and Alerts" button. I have created rules previously but I thought
there was a simpler wizard than the one I'm trying to use now. Sort of a
quick and dirty method that, as I recall, was more useable with Jaws.
Anyway, I would appreciate some assistance with this process, and thanks in
advance.

Best,
Norma



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Outlook 2010 message rules wizard

[Adrian Spratt]

Norma,

I create a new folder independently with the shift-control-e shortcut before 
setting a message rule. I believe a new folder can be created while setting a 
message rule, but I find that dialog difficult enough. Doing the two steps 
separately simplifies the procedure. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of The Iowa Gal
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 8:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Outlook 2010 message rules wizard

Hi, thanks for this, but it doesn't allow me to create a new folder to direct 
messages to. Unless I am missing something, which is certainly possible. Guess 
if I can't get the list boxes to read I'll contact Jaws tech support. Thanks, 
Norma


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 1:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Outlook 2010 message rules wizard

The way I create a rule in Outlook 2010 is to highlight a message I'd like to 
be diverted to the new folder, then press the application key, then arrow up to 
"rules submenu," press enter, and go from there.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of The Iowa Gal
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 10:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Outlook 2010 message rules wizard

Hi group,

I'm using Jaws 17 latest build with outlook 2010. When in the message rules 
wizard, Jaws is not reading the list of items in the list boxes. I'm using the 
wizard that comes up when I go to File then Info then  I hit the "Manage Rules 
and Alerts" button. I have created rules previously but I thought there was a 
simpler wizard than the one I'm trying to use now. Sort of a quick and dirty 
method that, as I recall, was more useable with Jaws.
Anyway, I would appreciate some assistance with this process, and thanks in 
advance.

Best,
Norma



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Outlook 2010 message rules wizard

[The Iowa Gal]

Hi, thanks for this, but it doesn't allow me to create a new folder to
direct messages to. Unless I am missing something, which is certainly
possible. Guess if I can't get the list boxes to read I'll contact Jaws tech
support. Thanks, Norma


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 1:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Outlook 2010 message rules wizard

The way I create a rule in Outlook 2010 is to highlight a message I'd like
to be diverted to the new folder, then press the application key, then arrow
up to "rules submenu," press enter, and go from there.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of The Iowa Gal
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 10:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Outlook 2010 message rules wizard

Hi group,

I'm using Jaws 17 latest build with outlook 2010. When in the message rules
wizard, Jaws is not reading the list of items in the list boxes. I'm using
the wizard that comes up when I go to File then Info then  I hit the "Manage
Rules and Alerts" button. I have created rules previously but I thought
there was a simpler wizard than the one I'm trying to use now. Sort of a
quick and dirty method that, as I recall, was more useable with Jaws.
Anyway, I would appreciate some assistance with this process, and thanks in
advance.

Best,
Norma



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Outlook 2010 message rules wizard

[Adrian Spratt]

The way I create a rule in Outlook 2010 is to highlight a message I'd like to 
be diverted to the new folder, then press the application key, then arrow up to 
"rules submenu," press enter, and go from there.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of The Iowa Gal
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 10:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Outlook 2010 message rules wizard

Hi group,

I'm using Jaws 17 latest build with outlook 2010. When in the message rules 
wizard, Jaws is not reading the list of items in the list boxes. I'm using the 
wizard that comes up when I go to File then Info then  I hit the "Manage Rules 
and Alerts" button. I have created rules previously but I thought there was a 
simpler wizard than the one I'm trying to use now. Sort of a quick and dirty 
method that, as I recall, was more useable with Jaws.
Anyway, I would appreciate some assistance with this process, and thanks in 
advance.

Best,
Norma



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[JAWS-Users] Need help with Outlook 2010 message rules wizard

[The Iowa Gal]

Hi group,

I'm using Jaws 17 latest build with outlook 2010. When in the message rules
wizard, Jaws is not reading the list of items in the list boxes. I'm using
the wizard that comes up when I go to File then Info then  I hit the "Manage
Rules and Alerts" button. I have created rules previously but I thought
there was a simpler wizard than the one I'm trying to use now. Sort of a
quick and dirty method that, as I recall, was more useable with Jaws.
Anyway, I would appreciate some assistance with this process, and thanks in
advance.

Best,
Norma



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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help installing Goldwave scripts

[Robert Arrabito]

Hi Mike,

Your instructions did the trick and all is well now. Many thanks for your
help.


Rob
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: May-31-16 1:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: need help installing Goldwave
scripts

Hi

The scripts need to be in the enu folder, not the PersonalizedSettings
folder.  So once the scripts are back in the enu folder, go to the JAWS
window or menu , open the options menu and press enter on Manage Application
Settings.  In Manage Application settings, make sure that the entry for
GoldWave is checked.  If it is not checked, press the space bar to check it
and tab to the OK button and press enter to close Manage Application
Settings.  Also make sure that at least one of the files has the file
extension .jsb.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Robert Arrabito
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 08:27
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: need help installing Goldwave scripts

Hi Mario,

Many thanks for getting back to me. I did press insert plus q and was told
that the default scripts were loaded.

I also note that within the enu folder there is a folder called
PersonalizedSettings so I closed Goldwave and then moved the Goldwave
scripts from Enu to this folder. I then ran Goldwave and pressed insert plus
q and again was told that the default scripts were loaded. 


Rob


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mario
Sent: May-30-16 7:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] need help installing Goldwave scripts

Rob, sorry for responding late, but if you press insert+q, are you told that
the default settings are loaded? if so, the scripts weren't recognized
correctly. this is the first step in troubleshooting this kind of issue.




 Original Message 
From: Robert Arbitrator
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help installing Goldwave scripts
Date: Sunday, May 29, 2016 10:16:15 AM EST
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>

Hi all,



I am having problems installing the Goldwave scripts for JFW 17 on my 64-bit
Windows 7 PC. I am running Goldwave 6.22 and downloaded the latest Goldwave
scripts contained in file goldwave_5-6_jaws_scripts_2_0.zip.



I unpacked the zip file and placed the contents in folder:



C:\Users\My User Name\AppData\Roaming\Freedom
Scientific\JAWS\17.0\Settings\enu



I then ran Goldwave and the scripts do not work. I would greatly appreciate
any advice. Thanks.





Regards,

Rob

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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help installing Goldwave scripts

[Mario]

Rob, sorry for responding late, but if you press insert+q, are you told 
that the default settings are loaded? if so, the scripts weren't 
recognized correctly. this is the first step in troubleshooting this 
kind of issue.





 Original Message 
From: Robert Arbitrator
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help installing Goldwave scripts
Date: Sunday, May 29, 2016 10:16:15 AM EST
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>

Hi all,



I am having problems installing the Goldwave scripts for JFW 17 on my 64-bit
Windows 7 PC. I am running Goldwave 6.22 and downloaded the latest Goldwave
scripts contained in file goldwave_5-6_jaws_scripts_2_0.zip.



I unpacked the zip file and placed the contents in folder:



C:\Users\My User Name\AppData\Roaming\Freedom
Scientific\JAWS\17.0\Settings\enu



I then ran Goldwave and the scripts do not work. I would greatly appreciate
any advice. Thanks.





Regards,

Rob

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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help installing Goldwave scripts

[Mario]

sorry for 2 dumb questions, but

if you press insert+q, does it say that default scripts are loaded?

and if pressing insert+0, does JAWS ask for a name for a new script file?


 Original Message 
From: Robert Arrabito
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help installing Goldwave scripts
Date: Sunday, May 29, 2016 10:16:15 AM EST
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>

Hi all,



I am having problems installing the Goldwave scripts for JFW 17 on my 64-bit
Windows 7 PC. I am running Goldwave 6.22 and downloaded the latest Goldwave
scripts contained in file goldwave_5-6_jaws_scripts_2_0.zip.



I unpacked the zip file and placed the contents in folder:



C:\Users\My User Name\AppData\Roaming\Freedom
Scientific\JAWS\17.0\Settings\enu



I then ran Goldwave and the scripts do not work. I would greatly appreciate
any advice. Thanks.





Regards,

Rob

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[JAWS-Users] need help installing Goldwave scripts

[Robert Arrabito]

Hi all,

 

I am having problems installing the Goldwave scripts for JFW 17 on my 64-bit
Windows 7 PC. I am running Goldwave 6.22 and downloaded the latest Goldwave
scripts contained in file goldwave_5-6_jaws_scripts_2_0.zip. 

 

I unpacked the zip file and placed the contents in folder:

 

C:\Users\My User Name\AppData\Roaming\Freedom
Scientific\JAWS\17.0\Settings\enu

 

I then ran Goldwave and the scripts do not work. I would greatly appreciate
any advice. Thanks.

 

 

Regards,

Rob

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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

[Mario]

yes.

--- Original Message 
From: Steve
Sent: Tuesday, Apr 12, 2016 4:25:11 PM EST
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

Did you sign-in to webvisum with your Webvisum account?

- Original Message -
From: Mario
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.


I browse to webvisum.com, login, find and activate the download
link,press alt+a to allow when I hear the message to do so,... and then
nothing else happens.

 Original Message 
From: Steve
Sent: Monday, Apr 11, 2016 5:07:33 PM EST
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

I'm not sure, have you tried just going to Webvisum from his computer with
Firefox?  When you are there, there is a link to install the extension.
   You may
need to press alt-A to tell Firefox you want to allow the add-in.


- Original Message -
From: Mario
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.


on my computer, Web Visum still works in Firefox 45.0.1. I think it's
because I have WV set to automatically sign me in when FF is started. I
also have FF set to not automatically update.

occasionally, I use my nephews computer that runs Windows 8, and it has
FF 40, but when I search for the WV extension, there's no match. why is
WV not listed? FF hasn't been updated to 45yet.

 Original Message 
From: Steve
Sent: Monday, Apr 11, 2016 3:53:14 PM EST
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

It (Webvisum) still works with Firefox--or it did a week ago when I last
used
it--just not with the newer versions of Firefoox.

- Original Message -
From: Gerald Levy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.



No, JAWS cannot decode image captchas.  The only way to solve captchas
without sighted help is to use Webvisum with Firefox, which is no longer
supported,  or Rumola, which works with both Firefox and IE and costs a
measily 99 cents a year.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Ron Kolesar
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 9:57 PM
To: JAWS Users Mailing List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

For my fellow JAWS users.
I have been trying to set up an account out on STEAM for online games.
Like most web pages these days it takes a security capture code.
Now most companies these days  are offering a audio challenge.
But Valve corporation, the company behind the STEAM online gaming web page
isn’t even offering we blind gamers a audio challenge.
The web address is at
www.steampowered.com
I can get through all of the fields except when it comes to the security
capture screen.
Even my sighted father couldn’t even read the stupid security capture info
to me.
So, I’m running windows 10 and the latest copy of jaws 17.
Can we get jaws to read capture screen info to us?
That way, we too may enjoy some of these web pages.
Very Thankfully Yours,
Ron Kolesar who’s known in the FSX Flight simulator world as the Blind
Pilot.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

[Gerald Levy]

If you are using Firefox 45, the latest version, Webvisum will not work with 
it because this version of Firefox disables unsigned, third-party add-ons 
like Webvisum that do not comply with Mozilla's new security standards. 
Webvisum will only work with Firefox 42 or earlier.  Somebody on another 
list posted a Drop Box link to a hacked or modified version of Webvisum that 
supposedly works with Firefox 45.  However, I would caution against using 
this version because its origin and hence its safety are unknown.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Steve

Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 4:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

Did you sign-in to webvisum with your Webvisum account?

- Original Message - 
From: Mario

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.


I browse to webvisum.com, login, find and activate the download
link,press alt+a to allow when I hear the message to do so,... and then
nothing else happens.

 Original Message 
From: Steve
Sent: Monday, Apr 11, 2016 5:07:33 PM EST
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

I'm not sure, have you tried just going to Webvisum from his computer with
Firefox?  When you are there, there is a link to install the extension.
 You may
need to press alt-A to tell Firefox you want to allow the add-in.


- Original Message -
From: Mario
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.


on my computer, Web Visum still works in Firefox 45.0.1. I think it's
because I have WV set to automatically sign me in when FF is started. I
also have FF set to not automatically update.

occasionally, I use my nephews computer that runs Windows 8, and it has
FF 40, but when I search for the WV extension, there's no match. why is
WV not listed? FF hasn't been updated to 45yet.

 Original Message 
From: Steve
Sent: Monday, Apr 11, 2016 3:53:14 PM EST
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

It (Webvisum) still works with Firefox--or it did a week ago when I last
used
it--just not with the newer versions of Firefoox.

- Original Message -
From: Gerald Levy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.



No, JAWS cannot decode image captchas.  The only way to solve captchas
without sighted help is to use Webvisum with Firefox, which is no longer
supported,  or Rumola, which works with both Firefox and IE and costs a
measily 99 cents a year.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Ron Kolesar
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 9:57 PM
To: JAWS Users Mailing List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

For my fellow JAWS users.
I have been trying to set up an account out on STEAM for online games.
Like most web pages these days it takes a security capture code.
Now most companies these days  are offering a audio challenge.
But Valve corporation, the company behind the STEAM online gaming web page
isn’t even offering we blind gamers a audio challenge.
The web address is at
www.steampowered.com
I can get through all of the fields except when it comes to the security
capture screen.
Even my sighted father couldn’t even read the stupid security capture info
to me.
So, I’m running windows 10 and the latest copy of jaws 17.
Can we get jaws to read capture screen info to us?
That way, we too may enjoy some of these web pages.
Very Thankfully Yours,
Ron Kolesar who’s known in the FSX Flight simulator world as the Blind
Pilot.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

[Steve]

Did you sign-in to webvisum with your Webvisum account?

- Original Message - 
From: Mario
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.


I browse to webvisum.com, login, find and activate the download
link,press alt+a to allow when I hear the message to do so,... and then
nothing else happens.

 Original Message 
From: Steve
Sent: Monday, Apr 11, 2016 5:07:33 PM EST
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

I'm not sure, have you tried just going to Webvisum from his computer with
Firefox?  When you are there, there is a link to install the extension.
  You may
need to press alt-A to tell Firefox you want to allow the add-in.


- Original Message -
From: Mario
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.


on my computer, Web Visum still works in Firefox 45.0.1. I think it's
because I have WV set to automatically sign me in when FF is started. I
also have FF set to not automatically update.

occasionally, I use my nephews computer that runs Windows 8, and it has
FF 40, but when I search for the WV extension, there's no match. why is
WV not listed? FF hasn't been updated to 45yet.

 Original Message 
From: Steve
Sent: Monday, Apr 11, 2016 3:53:14 PM EST
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

It (Webvisum) still works with Firefox--or it did a week ago when I last
used
it--just not with the newer versions of Firefoox.

- Original Message -
From: Gerald Levy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.



No, JAWS cannot decode image captchas.  The only way to solve captchas
without sighted help is to use Webvisum with Firefox, which is no longer
supported,  or Rumola, which works with both Firefox and IE and costs a
measily 99 cents a year.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Ron Kolesar
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 9:57 PM
To: JAWS Users Mailing List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

For my fellow JAWS users.
I have been trying to set up an account out on STEAM for online games.
Like most web pages these days it takes a security capture code.
Now most companies these days  are offering a audio challenge.
But Valve corporation, the company behind the STEAM online gaming web page
isn’t even offering we blind gamers a audio challenge.
The web address is at
www.steampowered.com
I can get through all of the fields except when it comes to the security
capture screen.
Even my sighted father couldn’t even read the stupid security capture info
to me.
So, I’m running windows 10 and the latest copy of jaws 17.
Can we get jaws to read capture screen info to us?
That way, we too may enjoy some of these web pages.
Very Thankfully Yours,
Ron Kolesar who’s known in the FSX Flight simulator world as the Blind
Pilot.
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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

[Mario]

I browse to webvisum.com, login, find and activate the download 
link,press alt+a to allow when I hear the message to do so,... and then 
nothing else happens.


 Original Message 
From: Steve
Sent: Monday, Apr 11, 2016 5:07:33 PM EST
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

I'm not sure, have you tried just going to Webvisum from his computer with
Firefox?  When you are there, there is a link to install the extension. 
 You may

need to press alt-A to tell Firefox you want to allow the add-in.


- Original Message -
From: Mario
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.


on my computer, Web Visum still works in Firefox 45.0.1. I think it's
because I have WV set to automatically sign me in when FF is started. I
also have FF set to not automatically update.

occasionally, I use my nephews computer that runs Windows 8, and it has
FF 40, but when I search for the WV extension, there's no match. why is
WV not listed? FF hasn't been updated to 45yet.

 Original Message 
From: Steve
Sent: Monday, Apr 11, 2016 3:53:14 PM EST
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

It (Webvisum) still works with Firefox--or it did a week ago when I last
used
it--just not with the newer versions of Firefoox.

- Original Message -
From: Gerald Levy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.



No, JAWS cannot decode image captchas.  The only way to solve captchas
without sighted help is to use Webvisum with Firefox, which is no longer
supported,  or Rumola, which works with both Firefox and IE and costs a
measily 99 cents a year.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Ron Kolesar
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 9:57 PM
To: JAWS Users Mailing List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

For my fellow JAWS users.
I have been trying to set up an account out on STEAM for online games.
Like most web pages these days it takes a security capture code.
Now most companies these days  are offering a audio challenge.
But Valve corporation, the company behind the STEAM online gaming web page
isn’t even offering we blind gamers a audio challenge.
The web address is at
www.steampowered.com
I can get through all of the fields except when it comes to the security
capture screen.
Even my sighted father couldn’t even read the stupid security capture info
to me.
So, I’m running windows 10 and the latest copy of jaws 17.
Can we get jaws to read capture screen info to us?
That way, we too may enjoy some of these web pages.
Very Thankfully Yours,
Ron Kolesar who’s known in the FSX Flight simulator world as the Blind
Pilot.
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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

[David Moore]

Hi,
I just found that Web Visum is now signed and is updated to run on new 
versions of Firefox. Web Visum is alive again! Here is the link to download 
it:

https://t.co/YSXVIZPmxY

-Original Message- 
From: Mario

Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 4:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

on my computer, Web Visum still works in Firefox 45.0.1. I think it's
because I have WV set to automatically sign me in when FF is started. I
also have FF set to not automatically update.

occasionally, I use my nephews computer that runs Windows 8, and it has
FF 40, but when I search for the WV extension, there's no match. why is
WV not listed? FF hasn't been updated to 45yet.

 Original Message 
From: Steve
Sent: Monday, Apr 11, 2016 3:53:14 PM EST
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

It (Webvisum) still works with Firefox--or it did a week ago when I last
used
it--just not with the newer versions of Firefoox.

- Original Message -
From: Gerald Levy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.



No, JAWS cannot decode image captchas.  The only way to solve captchas
without sighted help is to use Webvisum with Firefox, which is no longer
supported,  or Rumola, which works with both Firefox and IE and costs a
measily 99 cents a year.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Ron Kolesar
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 9:57 PM
To: JAWS Users Mailing List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

For my fellow JAWS users.
I have been trying to set up an account out on STEAM for online games.
Like most web pages these days it takes a security capture code.
Now most companies these days  are offering a audio challenge.
But Valve corporation, the company behind the STEAM online gaming web page
isn’t even offering we blind gamers a audio challenge.
The web address is at
www.steampowered.com
I can get through all of the fields except when it comes to the security
capture screen.
Even my sighted father couldn’t even read the stupid security capture info
to me.
So, I’m running windows 10 and the latest copy of jaws 17.
Can we get jaws to read capture screen info to us?
That way, we too may enjoy some of these web pages.
Very Thankfully Yours,
Ron Kolesar who’s known in the FSX Flight simulator world as the Blind
Pilot.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

[Steve]

I'm not sure, have you tried just going to Webvisum from his computer with 
Firefox?  When you are there, there is a link to install the extension.  You 
may 
need to press alt-A to tell Firefox you want to allow the add-in.


- Original Message - 
From: Mario
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.


on my computer, Web Visum still works in Firefox 45.0.1. I think it's
because I have WV set to automatically sign me in when FF is started. I
also have FF set to not automatically update.

occasionally, I use my nephews computer that runs Windows 8, and it has
FF 40, but when I search for the WV extension, there's no match. why is
WV not listed? FF hasn't been updated to 45yet.

 Original Message 
From: Steve
Sent: Monday, Apr 11, 2016 3:53:14 PM EST
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

It (Webvisum) still works with Firefox--or it did a week ago when I last
used
it--just not with the newer versions of Firefoox.

- Original Message -
From: Gerald Levy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.



No, JAWS cannot decode image captchas.  The only way to solve captchas
without sighted help is to use Webvisum with Firefox, which is no longer
supported,  or Rumola, which works with both Firefox and IE and costs a
measily 99 cents a year.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Ron Kolesar
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 9:57 PM
To: JAWS Users Mailing List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

For my fellow JAWS users.
I have been trying to set up an account out on STEAM for online games.
Like most web pages these days it takes a security capture code.
Now most companies these days  are offering a audio challenge.
But Valve corporation, the company behind the STEAM online gaming web page
isn’t even offering we blind gamers a audio challenge.
The web address is at
www.steampowered.com
I can get through all of the fields except when it comes to the security
capture screen.
Even my sighted father couldn’t even read the stupid security capture info
to me.
So, I’m running windows 10 and the latest copy of jaws 17.
Can we get jaws to read capture screen info to us?
That way, we too may enjoy some of these web pages.
Very Thankfully Yours,
Ron Kolesar who’s known in the FSX Flight simulator world as the Blind
Pilot.
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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

[Mario]

on my computer, Web Visum still works in Firefox 45.0.1. I think it's 
because I have WV set to automatically sign me in when FF is started. I 
also have FF set to not automatically update.


occasionally, I use my nephews computer that runs Windows 8, and it has 
FF 40, but when I search for the WV extension, there's no match. why is 
WV not listed? FF hasn't been updated to 45yet.


 Original Message 
From: Steve
Sent: Monday, Apr 11, 2016 3:53:14 PM EST
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

It (Webvisum) still works with Firefox--or it did a week ago when I last 
used

it--just not with the newer versions of Firefoox.

- Original Message -
From: Gerald Levy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.



No, JAWS cannot decode image captchas.  The only way to solve captchas
without sighted help is to use Webvisum with Firefox, which is no longer
supported,  or Rumola, which works with both Firefox and IE and costs a
measily 99 cents a year.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Ron Kolesar
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 9:57 PM
To: JAWS Users Mailing List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

For my fellow JAWS users.
I have been trying to set up an account out on STEAM for online games.
Like most web pages these days it takes a security capture code.
Now most companies these days  are offering a audio challenge.
But Valve corporation, the company behind the STEAM online gaming web page
isn’t even offering we blind gamers a audio challenge.
The web address is at
www.steampowered.com
I can get through all of the fields except when it comes to the security
capture screen.
Even my sighted father couldn’t even read the stupid security capture info
to me.
So, I’m running windows 10 and the latest copy of jaws 17.
Can we get jaws to read capture screen info to us?
That way, we too may enjoy some of these web pages.
Very Thankfully Yours,
Ron Kolesar who’s known in the FSX Flight simulator world as the Blind
Pilot.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

[Steve]

It (Webvisum) still works with Firefox--or it did a week ago when I last used 
it--just not with the newer versions of Firefoox.

- Original Message - 
From: Gerald Levy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.



No, JAWS cannot decode image captchas.  The only way to solve captchas
without sighted help is to use Webvisum with Firefox, which is no longer
supported,  or Rumola, which works with both Firefox and IE and costs a
measily 99 cents a year.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Ron Kolesar
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 9:57 PM
To: JAWS Users Mailing List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

For my fellow JAWS users.
I have been trying to set up an account out on STEAM for online games.
Like most web pages these days it takes a security capture code.
Now most companies these days  are offering a audio challenge.
But Valve corporation, the company behind the STEAM online gaming web page
isn’t even offering we blind gamers a audio challenge.
The web address is at
www.steampowered.com
I can get through all of the fields except when it comes to the security
capture screen.
Even my sighted father couldn’t even read the stupid security capture info
to me.
So, I’m running windows 10 and the latest copy of jaws 17.
Can we get jaws to read capture screen info to us?
That way, we too may enjoy some of these web pages.
Very Thankfully Yours,
Ron Kolesar who’s known in the FSX Flight simulator world as the Blind
Pilot.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

[Gerald Levy]

No, JAWS cannot decode image captchas.  The only way to solve captchas 
without sighted help is to use Webvisum with Firefox, which is no longer 
supported,  or Rumola, which works with both Firefox and IE and costs a 
measily 99 cents a year.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Ron Kolesar

Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 9:57 PM
To: JAWS Users Mailing List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

For my fellow JAWS users.
I have been trying to set up an account out on STEAM for online games.
Like most web pages these days it takes a security capture code.
Now most companies these days  are offering a audio challenge.
But Valve corporation, the company behind the STEAM online gaming web page 
isn’t even offering we blind gamers a audio challenge.

The web address is at
www.steampowered.com
I can get through all of the fields except when it comes to the security 
capture screen.
Even my sighted father couldn’t even read the stupid security capture info 
to me.

So, I’m running windows 10 and the latest copy of jaws 17.
Can we get jaws to read capture screen info to us?
That way, we too may enjoy some of these web pages.
Very Thankfully Yours,
Ron Kolesar who’s known in the FSX Flight simulator world as the Blind 
Pilot.

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

[JAWS-Users] need help with security capture screens.

[Ron Kolesar]

For my fellow JAWS users. 
I have been trying to set up an account out on STEAM for online games. 
Like most web pages these days it takes a security capture code. 
Now most companies these days  are offering a audio challenge. 
But Valve corporation, the company behind the STEAM online gaming web page 
isn’t even offering we blind gamers a audio challenge. 
The web address is at
www.steampowered.com
I can get through all of the fields except when it comes to the security 
capture screen. 
Even my sighted father couldn’t even read the stupid security capture info to 
me. 
So, I’m running windows 10 and the latest copy of jaws 17. 
Can we get jaws to read capture screen info to us? 
That way, we too may enjoy some of these web pages. 
Very Thankfully Yours, 
Ron Kolesar who’s known in the FSX Flight simulator world as the Blind Pilot.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

[JAWS-Users] need help with Jaws and braille edge

[Joey Lamperis]

Hi all,

I had a question about Jaws and a braille edge.
Does anybody use one?

Thanks,

Joseph Lamperis

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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] need help!!! not able to get windows 10

[Londa Peterson]

This happened to me. I ran system restore and got it back. I reserved my
copy for my Lenovo. Just because it downloads doesn't mean I have to install
it. From what I'm hearing so far, though, I think I will probably do so. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve  Shannon Cook
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 9:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help!!! not able to get windows 10

I had the Get Windows 10 icon in my system tray and did not reserve my copy
and now my icon is no longer there.  What do I need to do?  Thanks in
advance!

Steve Cook
Steve on Dice World: Steve6009
Steve on Twitter: @SteveCook67
Today I married my best friend.  
The one that I laugh with, live for, love.
October 11, 2003 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of parts
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 4:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help!!! not able to get windows 10

I did all the updates and it's not there.

 - Original Message -
From: Rose Combs roseco...@q.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:39:51 -0700
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help!!! not able to get windows 10

Update, update and update.  Once they are all installed you will get the
icon to get Windows 10.


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three 
times the
memory!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List 
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of petras
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help!!! not able to get windows 10

So what I do to bypass it? I'm in Clifornia.

 - Original Message -
From: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 17:29:42 -0700
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help!!! not able to get windows 10

Petras,

You may have waited too long, or perhaps it is not available in
your part of
the world.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message -
From: petras zumbage...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 05:13 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help!!! not able to get windows 10


Well it's not and I dont have the notification.

 - Original Message -
From: Dialup@56k dialup...@bigpond.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 10:10:01 +1000
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help!!! not able to get windows 10

Windows 10 has to be 'reserved'.
Glen

***

On 30-Jul-15 9:33 am, petras wrote:
 Hi, I tried every possible thing to get windows 10 and I can't
even
 download it.  I never reserved it nor the get windows 10 is
there.  I
 need help.  I'm using jaws 16.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help!!! not able to get windows 10

[Michael Boyd]

Hi all,

If you do not have or cannot get the Get Windows 10 icon in your system 
tray, click on the following link which will take you to a page on the 
Microsoft web site which explains how you can try getting it, and if you are 
not getting it, some possibilities as to why you are not.


https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3081048

Mike
mike@comcast.net


-Original Message- 
From: Steve  Shannon Cook

Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 8:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help!!! not able to get windows 10

I had the Get Windows 10 icon in my system tray and did not reserve my copy
and now my icon is no longer there.  What do I need to do?  Thanks in
advance!

Steve Cook
Steve on Dice World: Steve6009
Steve on Twitter: @SteveCook67
Today I married my best friend.
The one that I laugh with, live for, love.
October 11, 2003

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of parts
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 4:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help!!! not able to get windows 10

I did all the updates and it's not there.

- Original Message -
From: Rose Combs roseco...@q.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:39:51 -0700
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help!!! not able to get windows 10

Update, update and update.  Once they are all installed you will get the
icon to get Windows 10.


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three
times the
memory!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of petras
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help!!! not able to get windows 10

So what I do to bypass it? I'm in Clifornia.

- Original Message -
From: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 17:29:42 -0700
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help!!! not able to get windows 10

Petras,

You may have waited too long, or perhaps it is not available in
your part of
the world.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message -
From: petras zumbage...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 05:13 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help!!! not able to get windows 10


Well it's not and I dont have the notification.

- Original Message -
From: Dialup@56k dialup...@bigpond.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 10:10:01 +1000
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help!!! not able to get windows 10

Windows 10 has to be 'reserved'.
Glen

***

On 30-Jul-15 9:33 am, petras wrote:
Hi, I tried every possible thing to get windows 10 and I can't
even
download it.  I never reserved it nor the get windows 10 is
there.  I
need help.  I'm using jaws 16.

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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