Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary
Hi Lynn, Try the built-in troubleshooters in w-10, they work great. 1. Press the windows key. 2. Type in, troubleshooting, press enter on, troubleshooting, control panel. 3. Tab one time to, show all link, press enter. 4. Tab one time to, list view. 5. highlight, Background intelligence transfer service, press enter. 6. Tab to the next button, press enter. 7. Follow any prompts, this may fix the problem of the windows updates. If this does not fix the problem. Go to the bottom of the list to, Windows update, resolve problems that prevent you from updating windows. Press enter. Tab to the next button, press enter. Follow the prompts. One of these two built-in troubleshooters should fix the problem. W-10, has an expanded list of troubleshooters, they work great... I hope this helps... Consider the snow flakes Consider the snow flakes, as they fall, bright and beautiful one and all. Watch the snowflakes as they fall, all are different, large and small Look at the snowflakes as they fall, they are One of God's treasures, created for all. Consider Him, as the blizzard blows, let Him warm your heart, and give Him your soul. Take a walk with Him daily in the snow, pray and meditate on Him whenever you go. Remember, God loves you and I, trust in His salvation before you die. Author: Jim Flusche GO BUCKEYES! Win another National title... -Original Message- From: Lynn White Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 2:04 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary I have a question. I updated to Windows 10 and am currently using Jaws 16 and will be installing 17. But, I won't do that until this problem is solved. I was one of those who gost a cumulative update from Microsoft that didn't go through properly. Every day just four in the afternoon, my PC restarts because Windows is still trying to get the update. I understand that this won't be fixed until Microsoft comes up with a fix for this. Is there a way to push the time to say, 2 in the morning? I need to do something so that my programs that run on my station don't get interrupted. Any help is definitely welcomed and appreciated. On 11/10/2015 6:27 PM, Johna Lynn Nordin wrote: When I click on the get windows 10 icon in my system tray it tells me it's validating my windows or something like that then it says it'll notify me when it's ready. How do I know when It's ready? How will I be notified? Via email and if so which email address will it send it to? Thanks Johna -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Moore Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 6:14 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary Hi all, I just wanted you to know that you can up grade to Windows 10 with JAWS 16.0.4350 or JAWS 16.0.4463. You do not have to wait until you receive JAWS 17 to up grade. I up graded with JAWS 16.0.4350 and the experience couldn't have been better. You can use Narrator to do the last couple of steps and JAWS will come back talking. When it does, just remember to uninstall JAWS and Reinstall JAWS even if you upgraded from Windows 8.1. It makes things work so much better in Win 10 if you do. Take care. -Original Message- From: Mike Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 12:27 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility;Says sighted assistance necessary It appeared to me, when I purchased my new SMA for JAWS 18 and 19, and upgraded to 17, that the disk would cost $10. I saw nothing to make me believe that I would be receiving one by mail. I then talked to FS Sales, to make my SMA purchase, and nothing was said about them sending me the disk either. So, unless someone receives one and posts that they did, then I am assuming that there will be no disk sentt. Mike mike.boy...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: Neil Towery Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 11:01 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility;Says sighted assistance necessary Hello Gang: I tried to upgrade an older Dell laptop to Windows 10, yesterday, through the MS Accessibility Help Desk. But, was unsuccessful, because I had so many Windows 7 updates to download and install. Still having to download some today. However, here is my point. While talking to one of the MS helpers, he told me, "Well, Sir, you know that when we do the download for Windows 10, there will be a time, when there is no connection with us, and sighted assistance will be necessary." I replied, "Well, I understand at that point, I can turn on the narrator and complete it without sighted assistance.&qu
Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary
I have a question. I updated to Windows 10 and am currently using Jaws 16 and will be installing 17. But, I won't do that until this problem is solved. I was one of those who gost a cumulative update from Microsoft that didn't go through properly. Every day just four in the afternoon, my PC restarts because Windows is still trying to get the update. I understand that this won't be fixed until Microsoft comes up with a fix for this. Is there a way to push the time to say, 2 in the morning? I need to do something so that my programs that run on my station don't get interrupted. Any help is definitely welcomed and appreciated. On 11/10/2015 6:27 PM, Johna Lynn Nordin wrote: When I click on the get windows 10 icon in my system tray it tells me it's validating my windows or something like that then it says it'll notify me when it's ready. How do I know when It's ready? How will I be notified? Via email and if so which email address will it send it to? Thanks Johna -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Moore Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 6:14 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary Hi all, I just wanted you to know that you can up grade to Windows 10 with JAWS 16.0.4350 or JAWS 16.0.4463. You do not have to wait until you receive JAWS 17 to up grade. I up graded with JAWS 16.0.4350 and the experience couldn't have been better. You can use Narrator to do the last couple of steps and JAWS will come back talking. When it does, just remember to uninstall JAWS and Reinstall JAWS even if you upgraded from Windows 8.1. It makes things work so much better in Win 10 if you do. Take care. -Original Message- From: Mike Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 12:27 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility;Says sighted assistance necessary It appeared to me, when I purchased my new SMA for JAWS 18 and 19, and upgraded to 17, that the disk would cost $10. I saw nothing to make me believe that I would be receiving one by mail. I then talked to FS Sales, to make my SMA purchase, and nothing was said about them sending me the disk either. So, unless someone receives one and posts that they did, then I am assuming that there will be no disk sentt. Mike mike.boy...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: Neil Towery Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 11:01 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility;Says sighted assistance necessary Hello Gang: I tried to upgrade an older Dell laptop to Windows 10, yesterday, through the MS Accessibility Help Desk. But, was unsuccessful, because I had so many Windows 7 updates to download and install. Still having to download some today. However, here is my point. While talking to one of the MS helpers, he told me, "Well, Sir, you know that when we do the download for Windows 10, there will be a time, when there is no connection with us, and sighted assistance will be necessary." I replied, "Well, I understand at that point, I can turn on the narrator and complete it without sighted assistance." He said, "I don't think that is really the case. You need sighted assistance." Well, according to the notes from Jim Flusche, The narrator is totally useable, after the 10 install. Or did I misunderstand Jim's instructions? Two final questions: 1. Does FS send out CDs for the JAWS 17, for those of us with a SMA? 2. Would a CD be a good thing to have for starting a new Windows 10 computer, or can that be done via narrator, as well. Thanks. Have a great Sunday! Neil For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary
Yes, you can do it that way. Just make sure you have the latest Jaws 17 already downloaded to your download folder. Then when your sited friend returns your computer. Turn on narrator to sign and go to your download folder and press enter on your Jaws installation file. You should be just fine. Good luck. Also, you might want to read my tutorial, called, Customizing w-10 with Jaws. Consider the snow flakes Consider the snow flakes, as they fall, bright and beautiful one and all. Watch the snowflakes as they fall, all are different, large and small Look at the snowflakes as they fall, they are One of God's treasures, created for all. Consider Him, as the blizzard blows, let Him warm your heart, and give Him your soul. Take a walk with Him daily in the snow, pray and meditate on Him whenever you go. Remember, God loves you and I, trust in His salvation before you die. Author: Jim Flusche GO BUCKEYES! Win another National title... -Original Message- From: leonard morris Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 9:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary First let me say I really appreciate this information. Secondly, if I choose to let my sighted tech friend install windows 10 based on the information provided here, should I just uninstall v17 first keeping the user settings and just reinstall jaws v17 when the laptop is returned to me? On 11/11/2015 9:40 AM, David Moore wrote: Hi, Here are all the directions for up grading to Windows 10. Here you go, How to upgrade to Windows 10 with Jaws. Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16 or 17. go to: http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder. Download jaws 16.0.4350 or Jaws 17, leave it in your download folder for future use. Download the Microsoft media creation tool at: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version depending on what system you have. Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use. Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder. Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so. press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area. go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a verification email. Now, restart your computer. check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all the latest updates. Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10. Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files and so on from your system. Tip, after running the F S tool, any time you restart your computer, you will get a message from Jaws saying:. The mirror drivers are configured incorrectly, press the spacebar on this message. In w-10, Jaws does not use the mirror drivers, that is the reason for this message. Next, Run the media creation tool. yes, for your users account warning. Choose, update this computer now and press enter. you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says: Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer. This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your download speed. When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10. Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next. Again, the program will run through several screens by itself. Next, press enter on install. now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to complete. After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator. Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away. Almost done. press the next button. choose express settings. press the next button. if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the desktop in your new w-10 PC. Now, this is very important, uninstall and reinstall jaws 16 or 17. This will give you the maximum performance in the w-10 environment. Tips on how to do this. Go to programs and features, press enter on Jaws 16 or 17. Say yes, for your user’s account message. Uninstall Jaws, Keeping shared settings and personal settings. If the Jaws dialog does not tell you to restart, Turn Narrator on, Windows key+enter, restart your computer. Wait the appropriate time for restarting, turn Narrator back on, Windows key+enter. Go to your download folder where you have already put the latest Jaws 16 or 17, set up file. Press enter on the Jaws setup file. Follow the Jaws prompts, to install Jaws 16 or 17. After reinstalling jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them. Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j. Redo the setting to have jaws
Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary
assistance necessary When I click on the get windows 10 icon in my system tray it tells me it's validating my windows or something like that then it says it'll notify me when it's ready. How do I know when It's ready? How will I be notified? Via email and if so which email address will it send it to? Thanks Johna -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Moore Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 6:14 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary Hi all, I just wanted you to know that you can up grade to Windows 10 with JAWS 16.0.4350 or JAWS 16.0.4463. You do not have to wait until you receive JAWS 17 to up grade. I up graded with JAWS 16.0.4350 and the experience couldn't have been better. You can use Narrator to do the last couple of steps and JAWS will come back talking. When it does, just remember to uninstall JAWS and Reinstall JAWS even if you upgraded from Windows 8.1. It makes things work so much better in Win 10 if you do. Take care. -Original Message- From: Mike Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 12:27 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility;Says sighted assistance necessary It appeared to me, when I purchased my new SMA for JAWS 18 and 19, and upgraded to 17, that the disk would cost $10. I saw nothing to make me believe that I would be receiving one by mail. I then talked to FS Sales, to make my SMA purchase, and nothing was said about them sending me the disk either. So, unless someone receives one and posts that they did, then I am assuming that there will be no disk sentt. Mike mike.boy...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: Neil Towery Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 11:01 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility;Says sighted assistance necessary Hello Gang: I tried to upgrade an older Dell laptop to Windows 10, yesterday, through the MS Accessibility Help Desk. But, was unsuccessful, because I had so many Windows 7 updates to download and install. Still having to download some today. However, here is my point. While talking to one of the MS helpers, he told me, "Well, Sir, you know that when we do the download for Windows 10, there will be a time, when there is no connection with us, and sighted assistance will be necessary." I replied, "Well, I understand at that point, I can turn on the narrator and complete it without sighted assistance." He said, "I don't think that is really the case. You need sighted assistance." Well, according to the notes from Jim Flusche, The narrator is totally useable, after the 10 install. Or did I misunderstand Jim's instructions? Two final questions: 1. Does FS send out CDs for the JAWS 17, for those of us with a SMA? 2. Would a CD be a good thing to have for starting a new Windows 10 computer, or can that be done via narrator, as well. Thanks. Have a great Sunday! Neil For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- "Every country has an idenity, history, customs, and culture. It's a unique landscape in determining how its people live, work and play." For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary
Hi, Here are all the directions for up grading to Windows 10. Here you go, How to upgrade to Windows 10 with Jaws. Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16 or 17. go to: http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder. Download jaws 16.0.4350 or Jaws 17, leave it in your download folder for future use. Download the Microsoft media creation tool at: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version depending on what system you have. Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use. Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder. Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so. press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area. go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a verification email. Now, restart your computer. check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all the latest updates. Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10. Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files and so on from your system. Tip, after running the F S tool, any time you restart your computer, you will get a message from Jaws saying:. The mirror drivers are configured incorrectly, press the spacebar on this message. In w-10, Jaws does not use the mirror drivers, that is the reason for this message. Next, Run the media creation tool. yes, for your users account warning. Choose, update this computer now and press enter. you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says: Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer. This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your download speed. When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10. Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next. Again, the program will run through several screens by itself. Next, press enter on install. now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to complete. After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator. Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away. Almost done. press the next button. choose express settings. press the next button. if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the desktop in your new w-10 PC. Now, this is very important, uninstall and reinstall jaws 16 or 17. This will give you the maximum performance in the w-10 environment. Tips on how to do this. Go to programs and features, press enter on Jaws 16 or 17. Say yes, for your user’s account message. Uninstall Jaws, Keeping shared settings and personal settings. If the Jaws dialog does not tell you to restart, Turn Narrator on, Windows key+enter, restart your computer. Wait the appropriate time for restarting, turn Narrator back on, Windows key+enter. Go to your download folder where you have already put the latest Jaws 16 or 17, set up file. Press enter on the Jaws setup file. Follow the Jaws prompts, to install Jaws 16 or 17. After reinstalling jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them. Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j. Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen. All your other settings will be remembered by Jaws. For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time. Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again. In w-8.1, this method usually works the first time. In w-7, you may have to repeat this method two times. It is a little more difficult going from w-7, to w-10, then from w-8.1 to w-10. There are more drivers which much be updated by Microsoft for your w-7 computer to upgrade to w-10. After completing your upgrade to w-10, see my text file, on customizing w-10 with Jaws. Here is a drop box link with 33 tutorials for using win 10 Just enter on the link, go almost to the bottom of the page that comes up, and enter on the download link. You will have this folder with win 10 tutorials in it that will really get you started after you download this folder . Take care. Here is the link: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/x0g6lsnu4map1lm/AADalvpAHamNco1OwroiJ7AUa?dl=0 -Original Message- From: Johna Lynn Nordin Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 7:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility;Says sighted assistance necessary When I click on the get windows 10 icon in my system tray it tells me it's validating my windows or something like that then it says it'll notify me when it's ready. How do I know when It's ready? How will I be notified? Via email and if so which email address will it send it to? Thanks Johna -Origin
Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary
When I click on the get windows 10 icon in my system tray it tells me it's validating my windows or something like that then it says it'll notify me when it's ready. How do I know when It's ready? How will I be notified? Via email and if so which email address will it send it to? Thanks Johna -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Moore Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 6:14 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary Hi all, I just wanted you to know that you can up grade to Windows 10 with JAWS 16.0.4350 or JAWS 16.0.4463. You do not have to wait until you receive JAWS 17 to up grade. I up graded with JAWS 16.0.4350 and the experience couldn't have been better. You can use Narrator to do the last couple of steps and JAWS will come back talking. When it does, just remember to uninstall JAWS and Reinstall JAWS even if you upgraded from Windows 8.1. It makes things work so much better in Win 10 if you do. Take care. -Original Message- From: Mike Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 12:27 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility;Says sighted assistance necessary It appeared to me, when I purchased my new SMA for JAWS 18 and 19, and upgraded to 17, that the disk would cost $10. I saw nothing to make me believe that I would be receiving one by mail. I then talked to FS Sales, to make my SMA purchase, and nothing was said about them sending me the disk either. So, unless someone receives one and posts that they did, then I am assuming that there will be no disk sentt. Mike mike.boy...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: Neil Towery Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 11:01 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility;Says sighted assistance necessary Hello Gang: I tried to upgrade an older Dell laptop to Windows 10, yesterday, through the MS Accessibility Help Desk. But, was unsuccessful, because I had so many Windows 7 updates to download and install. Still having to download some today. However, here is my point. While talking to one of the MS helpers, he told me, "Well, Sir, you know that when we do the download for Windows 10, there will be a time, when there is no connection with us, and sighted assistance will be necessary." I replied, "Well, I understand at that point, I can turn on the narrator and complete it without sighted assistance." He said, "I don't think that is really the case. You need sighted assistance." Well, according to the notes from Jim Flusche, The narrator is totally useable, after the 10 install. Or did I misunderstand Jim's instructions? Two final questions: 1. Does FS send out CDs for the JAWS 17, for those of us with a SMA? 2. Would a CD be a good thing to have for starting a new Windows 10 computer, or can that be done via narrator, as well. Thanks. Have a great Sunday! Neil For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary
Hi all, I just wanted you to know that you can up grade to Windows 10 with JAWS 16.0.4350 or JAWS 16.0.4463. You do not have to wait until you receive JAWS 17 to up grade. I up graded with JAWS 16.0.4350 and the experience couldn't have been better. You can use Narrator to do the last couple of steps and JAWS will come back talking. When it does, just remember to uninstall JAWS and Reinstall JAWS even if you upgraded from Windows 8.1. It makes things work so much better in Win 10 if you do. Take care. -Original Message- From: Mike Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 12:27 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility;Says sighted assistance necessary It appeared to me, when I purchased my new SMA for JAWS 18 and 19, and upgraded to 17, that the disk would cost $10. I saw nothing to make me believe that I would be receiving one by mail. I then talked to FS Sales, to make my SMA purchase, and nothing was said about them sending me the disk either. So, unless someone receives one and posts that they did, then I am assuming that there will be no disk sentt. Mike mike.boy...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: Neil Towery Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 11:01 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility;Says sighted assistance necessary Hello Gang: I tried to upgrade an older Dell laptop to Windows 10, yesterday, through the MS Accessibility Help Desk. But, was unsuccessful, because I had so many Windows 7 updates to download and install. Still having to download some today. However, here is my point. While talking to one of the MS helpers, he told me, "Well, Sir, you know that when we do the download for Windows 10, there will be a time, when there is no connection with us, and sighted assistance will be necessary." I replied, "Well, I understand at that point, I can turn on the narrator and complete it without sighted assistance." He said, "I don't think that is really the case. You need sighted assistance." Well, according to the notes from Jim Flusche, The narrator is totally useable, after the 10 install. Or did I misunderstand Jim's instructions? Two final questions: 1. Does FS send out CDs for the JAWS 17, for those of us with a SMA? 2. Would a CD be a good thing to have for starting a new Windows 10 computer, or can that be done via narrator, as well. Thanks. Have a great Sunday! Neil For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary
They already stated that the disks will be delayed slightly, they always send one, at least they have every year for the past 17 years. Rose Combs roseco...@q.com A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory! -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 10:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary It appeared to me, when I purchased my new SMA for JAWS 18 and 19, and upgraded to 17, that the disk would cost $10. I saw nothing to make me believe that I would be receiving one by mail. I then talked to FS Sales, to make my SMA purchase, and nothing was said about them sending me the disk either. So, unless someone receives one and posts that they did, then I am assuming that there will be no disk sentt. Mike mike.boy...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: Neil Towery Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 11:01 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility;Says sighted assistance necessary Hello Gang: I tried to upgrade an older Dell laptop to Windows 10, yesterday, through the MS Accessibility Help Desk. But, was unsuccessful, because I had so many Windows 7 updates to download and install. Still having to download some today. However, here is my point. While talking to one of the MS helpers, he told me, "Well, Sir, you know that when we do the download for Windows 10, there will be a time, when there is no connection with us, and sighted assistance will be necessary." I replied, "Well, I understand at that point, I can turn on the narrator and complete it without sighted assistance." He said, "I don't think that is really the case. You need sighted assistance." Well, according to the notes from Jim Flusche, The narrator is totally useable, after the 10 install. Or did I misunderstand Jim's instructions? Two final questions: 1. Does FS send out CDs for the JAWS 17, for those of us with a SMA? 2. Would a CD be a good thing to have for starting a new Windows 10 computer, or can that be done via narrator, as well. Thanks. Have a great Sunday! Neil For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary
It appeared to me, when I purchased my new SMA for JAWS 18 and 19, and upgraded to 17, that the disk would cost $10. I saw nothing to make me believe that I would be receiving one by mail. I then talked to FS Sales, to make my SMA purchase, and nothing was said about them sending me the disk either. So, unless someone receives one and posts that they did, then I am assuming that there will be no disk sentt. Mike mike.boy...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: Neil Towery Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 11:01 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility;Says sighted assistance necessary Hello Gang: I tried to upgrade an older Dell laptop to Windows 10, yesterday, through the MS Accessibility Help Desk. But, was unsuccessful, because I had so many Windows 7 updates to download and install. Still having to download some today. However, here is my point. While talking to one of the MS helpers, he told me, "Well, Sir, you know that when we do the download for Windows 10, there will be a time, when there is no connection with us, and sighted assistance will be necessary." I replied, "Well, I understand at that point, I can turn on the narrator and complete it without sighted assistance." He said, "I don't think that is really the case. You need sighted assistance." Well, according to the notes from Jim Flusche, The narrator is totally useable, after the 10 install. Or did I misunderstand Jim's instructions? Two final questions: 1. Does FS send out CDs for the JAWS 17, for those of us with a SMA? 2. Would a CD be a good thing to have for starting a new Windows 10 computer, or can that be done via narrator, as well. Thanks. Have a great Sunday! Neil For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary
Mario, Download and use a free utility called Rufus. It works faster and better than the Microsoft Windows 7 USB/DVD Download Tool. This program requires no installation onto your computer, and you can creat a bootable flash drive or disk with it. You can do an internet search for the download page. Mike -Original Message- From: Mario Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 11:31 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary as I read somewhere, you can create a bootable DVD or USB but only after upgrading first, unless you purchase a retail or OEM copy of windows 10. I would like to know how this would be done so I have notes on the steps to do this once I'm ready. I hope FS will still send out DVDs for JAWS 17, unless someone can tell us different. On 11/8/2015 12:01 PM, Neil Towery wrote: Hello Gang: I tried to upgrade an older Dell laptop to Windows 10, yesterday, through the MS Accessibility Help Desk. But, was unsuccessful, because I had so many Windows 7 updates to download and install. Still having to download some today. However, here is my point. While talking to one of the MS helpers, he told me, "Well, Sir, you know that when we do the download for Windows 10, there will be a time, when there is no connection with us, and sighted assistance will be necessary." I replied, "Well, I understand at that point, I can turn on the narrator and complete it without sighted assistance." He said, "I don't think that is really the case. You need sighted assistance." Well, according to the notes from Jim Flusche, The narrator is totally useable, after the 10 install. Or did I misunderstand Jim's instructions? Two final questions: 1. Does FS send out CDs for the JAWS 17, for those of us with a SMA? 2. Would a CD be a good thing to have for starting a new Windows 10 computer, or can that be done via narrator, as well. Thanks. Have a great Sunday! Neil For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary
Hi all, That tech person on the phone was wrong. I up graded to Windows 10 just like Jim did without any sighted assistance at all. Narrator indeed worked at the end after win 10 had downloaded and installed. When JAWS quit working, Narrator worked the rest of the time. Take care and go win 10. If you follow everything Jim said to do like I did, you will have no trouble at all. Take care. -Original Message- From: Mario Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2015 12:31 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary as I read somewhere, you can create a bootable DVD or USB but only after upgrading first, unless you purchase a retail or OEM copy of windows 10. I would like to know how this would be done so I have notes on the steps to do this once I'm ready. I hope FS will still send out DVDs for JAWS 17, unless someone can tell us different. On 11/8/2015 12:01 PM, Neil Towery wrote: Hello Gang: I tried to upgrade an older Dell laptop to Windows 10, yesterday, through the MS Accessibility Help Desk. But, was unsuccessful, because I had so many Windows 7 updates to download and install. Still having to download some today. However, here is my point. While talking to one of the MS helpers, he told me, "Well, Sir, you know that when we do the download for Windows 10, there will be a time, when there is no connection with us, and sighted assistance will be necessary." I replied, "Well, I understand at that point, I can turn on the narrator and complete it without sighted assistance." He said, "I don't think that is really the case. You need sighted assistance." Well, according to the notes from Jim Flusche, The narrator is totally useable, after the 10 install. Or did I misunderstand Jim's instructions? Two final questions: 1. Does FS send out CDs for the JAWS 17, for those of us with a SMA? 2. Would a CD be a good thing to have for starting a new Windows 10 computer, or can that be done via narrator, as well. Thanks. Have a great Sunday! Neil For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary
If you wait until the windows 10 install is totally done, you should be OK. Pressing Windows key+Enter, will turn narrator on, narrator is much smoother in w-10. You should be able to tab across and set up your computer. Good luck... Consider the snow flakes Consider the snow flakes, as they fall, bright and beautiful one and all. Watch the snowflakes as they fall, all are different, large and small Look at the snowflakes as they fall, they are One of God's treasures, created for all. Consider Him, as the blizzard blows, let Him warm your heart, and give Him your soul. Take a walk with Him daily in the snow, pray and meditate on Him whenever you go. Remember, God loves you and I, trust in His salvation before you die. Author: Jim Flusche GO BUCKEYES! Win another National title... -Original Message- From: Neil Towery Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 12:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility;Says sighted assistance necessary Hello Gang: I tried to upgrade an older Dell laptop to Windows 10, yesterday, through the MS Accessibility Help Desk. But, was unsuccessful, because I had so many Windows 7 updates to download and install. Still having to download some today. However, here is my point. While talking to one of the MS helpers, he told me, "Well, Sir, you know that when we do the download for Windows 10, there will be a time, when there is no connection with us, and sighted assistance will be necessary." I replied, "Well, I understand at that point, I can turn on the narrator and complete it without sighted assistance." He said, "I don't think that is really the case. You need sighted assistance." Well, according to the notes from Jim Flusche, The narrator is totally useable, after the 10 install. Or did I misunderstand Jim's instructions? Two final questions: 1. Does FS send out CDs for the JAWS 17, for those of us with a SMA? 2. Would a CD be a good thing to have for starting a new Windows 10 computer, or can that be done via narrator, as well. Thanks. Have a great Sunday! Neil For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary
as I read somewhere, you can create a bootable DVD or USB but only after upgrading first, unless you purchase a retail or OEM copy of windows 10. I would like to know how this would be done so I have notes on the steps to do this once I'm ready. I hope FS will still send out DVDs for JAWS 17, unless someone can tell us different. On 11/8/2015 12:01 PM, Neil Towery wrote: Hello Gang: I tried to upgrade an older Dell laptop to Windows 10, yesterday, through the MS Accessibility Help Desk. But, was unsuccessful, because I had so many Windows 7 updates to download and install. Still having to download some today. However, here is my point. While talking to one of the MS helpers, he told me, "Well, Sir, you know that when we do the download for Windows 10, there will be a time, when there is no connection with us, and sighted assistance will be necessary." I replied, "Well, I understand at that point, I can turn on the narrator and complete it without sighted assistance." He said, "I don't think that is really the case. You need sighted assistance." Well, according to the notes from Jim Flusche, The narrator is totally useable, after the 10 install. Or did I misunderstand Jim's instructions? Two final questions: 1. Does FS send out CDs for the JAWS 17, for those of us with a SMA? 2. Would a CD be a good thing to have for starting a new Windows 10 computer, or can that be done via narrator, as well. Thanks. Have a great Sunday! Neil For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary
yes on the FS question not sure on the win 10, but you can count on Jim to give you correct info. He knows what he's talking about. he may drink too much coffee but he is a knowledgable guy! -Original Message- From: Neil Towery Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2015 9:01 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility;Says sighted assistance necessary Hello Gang: I tried to upgrade an older Dell laptop to Windows 10, yesterday, through the MS Accessibility Help Desk. But, was unsuccessful, because I had so many Windows 7 updates to download and install. Still having to download some today. However, here is my point. While talking to one of the MS helpers, he told me, "Well, Sir, you know that when we do the download for Windows 10, there will be a time, when there is no connection with us, and sighted assistance will be necessary." I replied, "Well, I understand at that point, I can turn on the narrator and complete it without sighted assistance." He said, "I don't think that is really the case. You need sighted assistance." Well, according to the notes from Jim Flusche, The narrator is totally useable, after the 10 install. Or did I misunderstand Jim's instructions? Two final questions: 1. Does FS send out CDs for the JAWS 17, for those of us with a SMA? 2. Would a CD be a good thing to have for starting a new Windows 10 computer, or can that be done via narrator, as well. Thanks. Have a great Sunday! Neil For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility; Says sighted assistance necessary
Hello Gang: I tried to upgrade an older Dell laptop to Windows 10, yesterday, through the MS Accessibility Help Desk. But, was unsuccessful, because I had so many Windows 7 updates to download and install. Still having to download some today. However, here is my point. While talking to one of the MS helpers, he told me, "Well, Sir, you know that when we do the download for Windows 10, there will be a time, when there is no connection with us, and sighted assistance will be necessary." I replied, "Well, I understand at that point, I can turn on the narrator and complete it without sighted assistance." He said, "I don't think that is really the case. You need sighted assistance." Well, according to the notes from Jim Flusche, The narrator is totally useable, after the 10 install. Or did I misunderstand Jim's instructions? Two final questions: 1. Does FS send out CDs for the JAWS 17, for those of us with a SMA? 2. Would a CD be a good thing to have for starting a new Windows 10 computer, or can that be done via narrator, as well. Thanks. Have a great Sunday! Neil For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
