Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF files won't read at all

[Steve]

Do no files read, or just a particular one?  If it is a particular one, it 
may be an image file which you will need to scan using Jaws document 
recognition, or open it with a OCR program that scans .pdf files like 
OpenBook or Kurzweil.
- Original Message - 
From: "joanne" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 8:37 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF files won't read at all


I don't know if Adobe Reader is not installed properly, and unfortunately I 
can't find a good converter except Docuscan which is way costly.  Is 
another Adobe version more accessible, or is there something I should check 
or uncheck as far as accessibility is concerned?  Or should I set more 
graphics or some other helpful way of reading that may be listed under 
configuration manager?


Thanks.

Joanne
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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

[Adrian Spratt]

Try the JAWS convenient OCR feature. Press JAWS key+spacebar, release, then o 
for OCR, then d for document. It can take a few moments, but the operation 
usually produces a decent conversion in a separate window.

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Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 9:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

Good morning all.

This is my day for multiple inquiries. Who can tell me how to get JAWS 17 to 
read a pdf file when it says that it is an empty document? I tried using the 
JAWS cursor, but it did not help the situation. I am using Windows 10 on a dell 
laptop. Many thanks.
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

[Bissett, Tom]

You can use the convenient OCR feature to read these documents.
When you have the document open in acrobat reader press the jawsKey+spacebar, 
followed by the letter O, then press the letter D and the OCR will begin.  
Regards
Tom Bisset
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Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 9:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

Good morning all.

This is my day for multiple inquiries. Who can tell me how to get JAWS 17 to 
read a pdf file when it says that it is an empty document? I tried using the 
JAWS cursor, but it did not help the situation. I am using Windows 10 on a dell 
laptop. Many thanks.
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] pdf files

[david]

hello;
you should find the download on the folloing page;

note;

nake sure you uncheck;
 
Yes, install Google Chrome as my default browser.Yes, install Google Chrome.

Learn more
 | 
Install Option

 
Yes, install Google Toolbar for Internet Explorer.


http://get.adobe.com/reader/

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 11:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] pdf files

Hi everyone good morning,
I am needing the programs needed to open PDF files, acrobate,adobe reader 
If anyone knows any more than please share?
If you can send me the direct link that would be awesome!
I run jaws 15, windows 7 office 2010
Thanks
sugar

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night.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] pdf files with two columns

[Ryan West]

Hello Annette,

Thank you , but no I do not have that or any ocr other than the one jaws has 
and it is not ment for changing any format.  Thanks again.


Sincerely, Ryan West

-Original Message- 
From: Annette Carr

Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 4:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] pdf files with two columns

If you have OpenBook, have you tried using the Freedom Printer?

Annette


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 6:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] pdf files with two columns

Hi Ryan,

I posted your question to a couple of other lists'  below are the replies I
received:

From: Flor Lynch
Hi Mike,

Can the file be saved as text (from Adobe Reader) and, if so, have you tried
it; and what were the results like?
Flor

From: net bat
i don't know if this will work. but in the views pull down there is a option
for 2 page view.
Net bat

From: Axel Krueger
Can you use an OCR in a virtual print mode?  You can choose single  column
Axelbefore you save the file.

From: Drew Hunthausen
Ryan,
Is this a paper for a school, and do you have any DSS resources on campus
that could help you with this. I'm only asking because when I was in
college, I graduated last year, I had this same problem and had the DSS
staff help me out. I had a number of text resources that needed to be
translated so I could read them and I knew it would take hours and hours to
translate them myself. Just a suggestion.
Drew

From: Charles Coe
Hi,

You might want to try FS Open Book 9 if you have a scanner.
Charles

From: Kevin Hourigan
Hi. Isn't the virtual cursor supposed to deal with that.
Kevin

Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Ryan West
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 11:39 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] pdf files with two columns


Hello listers,

I come across pdf text books that for some reason are created in two
columns.  Please help if you know how to get them into one column so jaws
will read them properly.  I am in the middle of writing a research paper and

need to read this pdf and reference it.  Thanks for any help you can
provide.

Sincerely, Ryan West
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Re: [JAWS-Users] pdf files with two columns

[Annette Carr]

You might want to consider purchasing the following product from 

Premier Assistive Technology
1309 N. William St.
Joliet, IL 60435
Phone: 815-927-7390
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http://www.readingmadeez.com/products/PurchaseProducts.php

Text Cloner Pro is a scanning package designed to work with your screen
reader's own voice capabilities (e.g., JAWS, Window-Eyes). It features a
high-performance Optical Character Recognition (OCR) engine, as well as a
built-in spell checker. One-touch functionality means all important tasks
can be accomplished with a single keystroke. Text Cloner Pro handles
multiple columns automatically and recognizes and adjusts for pages inserted
at an angle.  $99 


Text-To-AudioC (Version 10.0) 

Text-To-Audio is a high-end application that can quickly and easily convert
electronic text to a variety of audio formats, including WAV and MP3.
Create audio files of study notes, textbooks or classroom handouts.  $69

If you are enrolled at an university, they might have an accessible OCR
package installed on a workstation for you to use or they might have a
service available to do this for you.

HTH,
Annette


 



 



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Ryan West
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 10:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] pdf files with two columns

Hello Annette,

Thank you , but no I do not have that or any ocr other than the one jaws has
and it is not ment for changing any format.  Thanks again.

Sincerely, Ryan West

-Original Message-
From: Annette Carr
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 4:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] pdf files with two columns

If you have OpenBook, have you tried using the Freedom Printer?

Annette


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 6:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] pdf files with two columns

Hi Ryan,

I posted your question to a couple of other lists'  below are the replies I
received:

From: Flor Lynch
Hi Mike,

Can the file be saved as text (from Adobe Reader) and, if so, have you tried
it; and what were the results like?
Flor

From: net bat
i don't know if this will work. but in the views pull down there is a option
for 2 page view.
Net bat

From: Axel Krueger
Can you use an OCR in a virtual print mode?  You can choose single  column
Axelbefore you save the file.

From: Drew Hunthausen
Ryan,
Is this a paper for a school, and do you have any DSS resources on campus
that could help you with this. I'm only asking because when I was in
college, I graduated last year, I had this same problem and had the DSS
staff help me out. I had a number of text resources that needed to be
translated so I could read them and I knew it would take hours and hours to
translate them myself. Just a suggestion.
Drew

From: Charles Coe
Hi,

You might want to try FS Open Book 9 if you have a scanner.
Charles

From: Kevin Hourigan
Hi. Isn't the virtual cursor supposed to deal with that.
Kevin

Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Ryan West
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 11:39 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] pdf files with two columns


Hello listers,

I come across pdf text books that for some reason are created in two
columns.  Please help if you know how to get them into one column so jaws
will read them properly.  I am in the middle of writing a research paper and

need to read this pdf and reference it.  Thanks for any help you can
provide.

Sincerely, Ryan West
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Re: [JAWS-Users] pdf files with two columns

[Mike B.]

Hi Ryan,

I posted your question to a couple of other lists'  below are the replies I 
received:

From: Flor Lynch
Hi Mike,

Can the file be saved as text (from Adobe Reader) and, if so, have you
tried it; and what were the results like?
Flor

From: net bat
i don't know if this will work. but in the views pull down there is a option
for 2 page view.
Net bat

From: Axel Krueger
Can you use an OCR in a virtual print mode?  You can choose single  column
Axelbefore you save the file.

From: Drew Hunthausen
Ryan,
Is this a paper for a school, and do you have any DSS resources on campus
that could help you with this. I'm only asking because when I was in
college, I graduated last year, I had this same problem and had the DSS
staff help me out. I had a number of text resources that needed to be
translated so I could read them and I knew it would take hours and hours to
translate them myself. Just a suggestion.
Drew

From: Charles Coe
Hi,

You might want to try FS Open Book 9 if you have a scanner.
Charles

From: Kevin Hourigan
Hi. Isn't the virtual cursor supposed to deal with that.
Kevin

Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Ryan West
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 11:39 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] pdf files with two columns


Hello listers,

I come across pdf text books that for some reason are created in two 
columns.  Please help if you know how to get them into one column so jaws 
will read them properly.  I am in the middle of writing a research paper and 
need to read this pdf and reference it.  Thanks for any help you can 
provide.

Sincerely, Ryan West
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Re: [JAWS-Users] pdf files with two columns

[Annette Carr]

If you have OpenBook, have you tried using the Freedom Printer?

Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 6:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] pdf files with two columns

Hi Ryan,

I posted your question to a couple of other lists'  below are the replies I
received:

From: Flor Lynch
Hi Mike,

Can the file be saved as text (from Adobe Reader) and, if so, have you tried
it; and what were the results like?
Flor

From: net bat
i don't know if this will work. but in the views pull down there is a option
for 2 page view.
Net bat

From: Axel Krueger
Can you use an OCR in a virtual print mode?  You can choose single  column
Axelbefore you save the file.

From: Drew Hunthausen
Ryan,
Is this a paper for a school, and do you have any DSS resources on campus
that could help you with this. I'm only asking because when I was in
college, I graduated last year, I had this same problem and had the DSS
staff help me out. I had a number of text resources that needed to be
translated so I could read them and I knew it would take hours and hours to
translate them myself. Just a suggestion.
Drew

From: Charles Coe
Hi,

You might want to try FS Open Book 9 if you have a scanner.
Charles

From: Kevin Hourigan
Hi. Isn't the virtual cursor supposed to deal with that.
Kevin

Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Ryan West
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 11:39 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] pdf files with two columns


Hello listers,

I come across pdf text books that for some reason are created in two 
columns.  Please help if you know how to get them into one column so jaws 
will read them properly.  I am in the middle of writing a research paper and

need to read this pdf and reference it.  Thanks for any help you can 
provide.

Sincerely, Ryan West
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Re: [JAWS-Users] pdf files with two columns

[justin williams]

I have copied files from pdf into a word document. Sometimes it read okay,
and sometimes not.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 7:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] pdf files with two columns

If you have OpenBook, have you tried using the Freedom Printer?

Annette


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 6:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] pdf files with two columns

Hi Ryan,

I posted your question to a couple of other lists'  below are the replies I
received:

From: Flor Lynch
Hi Mike,

Can the file be saved as text (from Adobe Reader) and, if so, have you tried
it; and what were the results like?
Flor

From: net bat
i don't know if this will work. but in the views pull down there is a option
for 2 page view.
Net bat

From: Axel Krueger
Can you use an OCR in a virtual print mode?  You can choose single  column
Axelbefore you save the file.

From: Drew Hunthausen
Ryan,
Is this a paper for a school, and do you have any DSS resources on campus
that could help you with this. I'm only asking because when I was in
college, I graduated last year, I had this same problem and had the DSS
staff help me out. I had a number of text resources that needed to be
translated so I could read them and I knew it would take hours and hours to
translate them myself. Just a suggestion.
Drew

From: Charles Coe
Hi,

You might want to try FS Open Book 9 if you have a scanner.
Charles

From: Kevin Hourigan
Hi. Isn't the virtual cursor supposed to deal with that.
Kevin

Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Ryan West
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 11:39 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] pdf files with two columns


Hello listers,

I come across pdf text books that for some reason are created in two 
columns.  Please help if you know how to get them into one column so jaws 
will read them properly.  I am in the middle of writing a research paper and

need to read this pdf and reference it.  Thanks for any help you can 
provide.

Sincerely, Ryan West
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Re: [JAWS-Users] pdf files with two columns

[Annette Carr]

Copying the text from a PDF file and pasting it into a word doc is different
than using the Adobe Save to Text or the OpenBook FreedomPrinter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of justin williams
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] pdf files with two columns

I have copied files from pdf into a word document. Sometimes it read okay,
and sometimes not.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 7:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] pdf files with two columns

If you have OpenBook, have you tried using the Freedom Printer?

Annette


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 6:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] pdf files with two columns

Hi Ryan,

I posted your question to a couple of other lists'  below are the replies I
received:

From: Flor Lynch
Hi Mike,

Can the file be saved as text (from Adobe Reader) and, if so, have you tried
it; and what were the results like?
Flor

From: net bat
i don't know if this will work. but in the views pull down there is a option
for 2 page view.
Net bat

From: Axel Krueger
Can you use an OCR in a virtual print mode?  You can choose single  column
Axelbefore you save the file.

From: Drew Hunthausen
Ryan,
Is this a paper for a school, and do you have any DSS resources on campus
that could help you with this. I'm only asking because when I was in
college, I graduated last year, I had this same problem and had the DSS
staff help me out. I had a number of text resources that needed to be
translated so I could read them and I knew it would take hours and hours to
translate them myself. Just a suggestion.
Drew

From: Charles Coe
Hi,

You might want to try FS Open Book 9 if you have a scanner.
Charles

From: Kevin Hourigan
Hi. Isn't the virtual cursor supposed to deal with that.
Kevin

Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Ryan West
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 11:39 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] pdf files with two columns


Hello listers,

I come across pdf text books that for some reason are created in two
columns.  Please help if you know how to get them into one column so jaws
will read them properly.  I am in the middle of writing a research paper and

need to read this pdf and reference it.  Thanks for any help you can
provide.

Sincerely, Ryan West
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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF files and Word Conversion

[tcorson2]

Word 2010.  Go into menu with alt key, then arrow right until you hear pdf 
and then enter and you will see the option to save the file as a pdf.


Donna


-Original Message- 
From: jerry martin

Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 4:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF files and Word Conversion

Hello listers:

I believe that someone on this list had mentioned that Word has a conversion 
feature for converting PDF files into word documents.  If this is true, 
could you tell me which version of Word it is, and what the steps are to 
perform this function?


Many thanks.
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF files and Word Conversion

[jerry martin]

Donna;:

Will one of the other options be of saving it as a word document?  Thanks.
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From: tcors...@cfl.rr.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF files and Word Conversion


Word 2010.  Go into menu with alt key, then arrow right until you hear pdf 
and then enter and you will see the option to save the file as a pdf.


Donna


-Original Message- 
From: jerry martin

Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 4:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF files and Word Conversion

Hello listers:

I believe that someone on this list had mentioned that Word has a 
conversion feature for converting PDF files into word documents.  If this 
is true, could you tell me which version of Word it is, and what the steps 
are to perform this function?


Many thanks.
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF files and Word Conversion

[tcorson2]

If you use alt f and then arrow down through that menu, you will find 
different options as to how to save in different formats.  Explore.



-Original Message- 
From: jerry martin

Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 5:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF files and Word Conversion

Donna;:

Will one of the other options be of saving it as a word document?  Thanks.
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From: tcors...@cfl.rr.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF files and Word Conversion


Word 2010.  Go into menu with alt key, then arrow right until you hear pdf 
and then enter and you will see the option to save the file as a pdf.


Donna


-Original Message- 
From: jerry martin

Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 4:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF files and Word Conversion

Hello listers:

I believe that someone on this list had mentioned that Word has a 
conversion feature for converting PDF files into word documents.  If this 
is true, could you tell me which version of Word it is, and what the steps 
are to perform this function?


Many thanks.
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF files and Word Conversion

[Flor Lynch]

I know of some free, but inaccessible, programs that will convert from 
pdf to word. You can do it (accessibly) in Abbyy FineReader - larger 
files in the paid version.


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From: tcors...@cfl.rr.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF files and Word Conversion


Word 2010.  Go into menu with alt key, then arrow right until you hear 
pdf and then enter and you will see the option to save the file as a 
pdf.


Donna


-Original Message- 

From: jerry martin

Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 4:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF files and Word Conversion

Hello listers:

I believe that someone on this list had mentioned that Word has a 
conversion feature for converting PDF files into word documents.  If 
this is true, could you tell me which version of Word it is, and what 
the steps are to perform this function?


Many thanks.
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF files and Word Conversion

[jerry martin]

Thanks so much.  Have a good weekend, and Happy father's Day to all of the 
dads out there.
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Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF files and Word Conversion


Word 2010.  Go into menu with alt key, then arrow right until you hear pdf 
and then enter and you will see the option to save the file as a pdf.


Donna


-Original Message- 
From: jerry martin

Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 4:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF files and Word Conversion

Hello listers:

I believe that someone on this list had mentioned that Word has a 
conversion feature for converting PDF files into word documents.  If this 
is true, could you tell me which version of Word it is, and what the steps 
are to perform this function?


Many thanks.
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF files and Word Conversion

[brad]

What about taking a pdf and saving it as a word file, the other way around.

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Word 2010.  Go into menu with alt key, then arrow right until you hear pdf
and then enter and you will see the option to save the file as a pdf.

Donna


-Original Message-
From: jerry martin
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 4:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF files and Word Conversion

Hello listers:

I believe that someone on this list had mentioned that Word has a conversion
feature for converting PDF files into word documents.  If this is true,
could you tell me which version of Word it is, and what the steps are to
perform this function?

Many thanks.
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF files and Word Conversion

[inthaneelf]

if your referring to my post you have the conversion backwords, it converts 
word docs into .pdf documents


take care,
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 1:30 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF files and Word Conversion



Hello listers:

I believe that someone on this list had mentioned that Word has a 
conversion feature for converting PDF files into word documents.  If this 
is true, could you tell me which version of Word it is, and what the steps 
are to perform this function?


Many thanks.
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF files?

[Sugar]

have you tried open book, if you do have this?
I use open book 8, with an xp jaws 11 on my lap top and I never have 
problems;I do just copy and paste whatever I am scanning for later..smile

sugar

Let Your Light So Shine before men,
so that they may see your good works and glorify our heavenly father in 
heaven.

`Matthew 5:16
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 2:37 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF files?


What do I need to open and read PDF documents?  I thought it was adobe, 
but

whenever I try and open a PDF file, it asks what program to open with, and
adobe flash player is not on the list.  Furthermore, I thought it was
supposed to open them with adobe automatically?  Suggestions?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF files?

[tcivi31]

It is Adobe reader. Which I believe   is down loadable for free on  the 
Adobe Web site. Tom
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF files?


What do I need to open and read PDF documents?  I thought it was adobe, 
but

whenever I try and open a PDF file, it asks what program to open with, and
adobe flash player is not on the list.  Furthermore, I thought it was
supposed to open them with adobe automatically?  Suggestions?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF files?

[Chris Smart]

yes you use Adobe reader, not flash player!

In Windows, change the application association for the file type 
pdf to whatever program you wish.


At 05:37 PM 2/7/2012, you wrote:
What do I need to open and read PDF documents?  I thought it was 
adobe, but
whenever I try and open a PDF file, it asks what program to open 
with, and

adobe flash player is not on the list.  Furthermore, I thought it was
supposed to open them with adobe automatically?  Suggestions?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

[ckrugman]

try reading the document by using the left to right top to bottom or raw 
print stream settings. This will generally correct the spacing and running 
issues that frequently occur when using theinfer reading order from 
document setting. I do this quite often when there is a problem with the 
document and it usually corrects the problem.

Chuck
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From: Nancy Feldman nancy_feld...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 4:46 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files



Good Morning,

I am at my wit's end with PDF files, so I thought I'd inquire for help 
here.
If there's a better forum for this, or we should be discussing it off 
list,

I'd be happy to do that.

I've used JAWS to read basic PDF files, ones with practically no 
formatting.

For instance, a novel in PDF format tends to read pretty well.

But I purchase a lot of PDF documents from www.drivethrurpg.com, and most 
of
them aren't read very well by JAWS.  I've seen many of the following 
errors.


No spaces between words

On two-column pages, the columns being smashed together and read as one
nonsensical block of text

With tables, the left hand column being presented first, and then the 
right

hand column, not side by side, but all the left hand column entries first,
and then the right.
Whole sections of books that JAWS cannot see at all, even though I am
assured there is text there

One pair of files where the author used lots of notes in the text and JAWS
had no idea where to put them, so it just reads them mixed up with the 
rest

of the text.

Because of all of these difficulties, I've concluded that I may need new
strategies for dealing with PDF files.  Perhaps I'm doing something wrong?

What are the optimal settings to use when opening a PDF file?  Is there
anything I can do to improve the conversion of PDF documents to text?  I
seem to recall that there's a place that we can Email PDF documents to, 
and

it'll convert them. Is it any good? The problem with that approach is most
of these documents are larger than 10 MB, which I believe exceeds the
largest Email attachment I can send.

I welcome all suggestions and insights.  Failing that, I will contact the
publishers and ask if I can get copies of the documents I've purchased in 
an

alternate electronic format.  It's just very frustrating to know that the
information is there and available, but still inaccessible to me.  Before 
I

contact the publishers, though, I want to make certain that I'm not doing
anything wrong.

Many thanks.

Nancy

I've tried saving files to text, and the


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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

[Nancy Feldman]

I've tried both of those. You are right that sometimes it corrects the
problems, but with a few stubborn files, it's still just gibberish.

And in some cases, JAWS can't see the text at all, even though it's real
text, not an image, and even though sighted readers see it just fine.


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ckrug...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 4:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

try reading the document by using the left to right top to bottom or raw 
print stream settings. This will generally correct the spacing and running 
issues that frequently occur when using theinfer reading order from 
document setting. I do this quite often when there is a problem with the 
document and it usually corrects the problem.
Chuck
- Original Message - 
From: Nancy Feldman nancy_feld...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 4:46 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files


 Good Morning,

 I am at my wit's end with PDF files, so I thought I'd inquire for help 
 here.
 If there's a better forum for this, or we should be discussing it off 
 list,
 I'd be happy to do that.

 I've used JAWS to read basic PDF files, ones with practically no 
 formatting.
 For instance, a novel in PDF format tends to read pretty well.

 But I purchase a lot of PDF documents from www.drivethrurpg.com, and most 
 of
 them aren't read very well by JAWS.  I've seen many of the following 
 errors.

 No spaces between words

 On two-column pages, the columns being smashed together and read as one
 nonsensical block of text

 With tables, the left hand column being presented first, and then the 
 right
 hand column, not side by side, but all the left hand column entries first,
 and then the right.
 Whole sections of books that JAWS cannot see at all, even though I am
 assured there is text there

 One pair of files where the author used lots of notes in the text and JAWS
 had no idea where to put them, so it just reads them mixed up with the 
 rest
 of the text.

 Because of all of these difficulties, I've concluded that I may need new
 strategies for dealing with PDF files.  Perhaps I'm doing something wrong?

 What are the optimal settings to use when opening a PDF file?  Is there
 anything I can do to improve the conversion of PDF documents to text?  I
 seem to recall that there's a place that we can Email PDF documents to, 
 and
 it'll convert them. Is it any good? The problem with that approach is most
 of these documents are larger than 10 MB, which I believe exceeds the
 largest Email attachment I can send.

 I welcome all suggestions and insights.  Failing that, I will contact the
 publishers and ask if I can get copies of the documents I've purchased in 
 an
 alternate electronic format.  It's just very frustrating to know that the
 information is there and available, but still inaccessible to me.  Before 
 I
 contact the publishers, though, I want to make certain that I'm not doing
 anything wrong.

 Many thanks.

 Nancy

 I've tried saving files to text, and the


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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

[inthane]

since were heading out in left field here I'll contact you off list, smile

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www.alacorncomputer.com
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From: Nancy Feldman nancy_feld...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files



Hi Elf,

I play numerous games, and often pick up indie games.  In truth, most 
indie

games are accessible, but when they're not, most publishers are willing to
work with me to get copies in alternative formats.

So, the primary offenders are:

Just about everything from White Wolf. I'd love to read their books, new 
and
old, but PDF conversions are absolutely, positively terrible.  One 
example,

Promethean, has a whole chapter that JAWS and other PDF interpreters (like
the one on the Braille Sense) cannot see at all.  Most books, like the
Exalted series, jumble everything together, or don't read the text in a
logical flow.

Dresden Files:  This is a small press game.  They did some cool layout
stuff, with numerous comments interspersed throughout the text that are
meant to provide levity and insight, but which simply confuse JAWS and 
other

PDF processes.

Amaranthine:  Another small press book.  This author didn't respond, and 
the
text is simply disorganized, with the thread of the text being lost at 
least

once per page.

Traveller: The tables are not presented logically, and Traveller has tons
and tons of tables.

Pathfinder: Mostly just text being presented out of order.

Can you help with any of these?

I believe in all cases Acrobat Reader says that these documents are
untagged.  I've been told that tagging is a time-consuming, tedious 
process.


Nancy


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From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of inthane
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

being an avid gamer myself, may I ask what system your attempting to find
useable .pdf books of?

I have translations of several systems here, and have openbook which many
times does a fair job of translating them to text.

elf
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
own the might and majesty of an alacorn
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
- Original Message - 
From: Nancy Feldman nancy_feld...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 4:46 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files



Good Morning,

I am at my wit's end with PDF files, so I thought I'd inquire for help
here.
If there's a better forum for this, or we should be discussing it off
list,
I'd be happy to do that.

I've used JAWS to read basic PDF files, ones with practically no
formatting.
For instance, a novel in PDF format tends to read pretty well.

But I purchase a lot of PDF documents from www.drivethrurpg.com, and most
of
them aren't read very well by JAWS.  I've seen many of the following
errors.

No spaces between words

On two-column pages, the columns being smashed together and read as one
nonsensical block of text

With tables, the left hand column being presented first, and then the
right
hand column, not side by side, but all the left hand column entries 
first,

and then the right.
Whole sections of books that JAWS cannot see at all, even though I am
assured there is text there

One pair of files where the author used lots of notes in the text and 
JAWS

had no idea where to put them, so it just reads them mixed up with the
rest
of the text.

Because of all of these difficulties, I've concluded that I may need new
strategies for dealing with PDF files.  Perhaps I'm doing something 
wrong?


What are the optimal settings to use when opening a PDF file?  Is there
anything I can do to improve the conversion of PDF documents to text?  I
seem to recall that there's a place that we can Email PDF documents to,
and
it'll convert them. Is it any good? The problem with that approach is 
most

of these documents are larger than 10 MB, which I believe exceeds the
largest Email attachment I can send.

I welcome all suggestions and insights.  Failing that, I will contact the
publishers and ask if I can get copies of the documents I've purchased in
an
alternate electronic format.  It's just very frustrating to know that the
information is there and available, but still inaccessible to me.  Before
I
contact the publishers, though, I want to make certain that I'm not doing
anything wrong.

Many thanks.

Nancy

I've tried saving files to text, and the


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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

[inthane]

being an avid gamer myself, may I ask what system your attempting to find 
useable .pdf books of?


I have translations of several systems here, and have openbook which many 
times does a fair job of translating them to text.


elf
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
own the might and majesty of an alacorn
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
- Original Message - 
From: Nancy Feldman nancy_feld...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 4:46 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files



Good Morning,

I am at my wit's end with PDF files, so I thought I'd inquire for help 
here.
If there's a better forum for this, or we should be discussing it off 
list,

I'd be happy to do that.

I've used JAWS to read basic PDF files, ones with practically no 
formatting.

For instance, a novel in PDF format tends to read pretty well.

But I purchase a lot of PDF documents from www.drivethrurpg.com, and most 
of
them aren't read very well by JAWS.  I've seen many of the following 
errors.


No spaces between words

On two-column pages, the columns being smashed together and read as one
nonsensical block of text

With tables, the left hand column being presented first, and then the 
right

hand column, not side by side, but all the left hand column entries first,
and then the right.
Whole sections of books that JAWS cannot see at all, even though I am
assured there is text there

One pair of files where the author used lots of notes in the text and JAWS
had no idea where to put them, so it just reads them mixed up with the 
rest

of the text.

Because of all of these difficulties, I've concluded that I may need new
strategies for dealing with PDF files.  Perhaps I'm doing something wrong?

What are the optimal settings to use when opening a PDF file?  Is there
anything I can do to improve the conversion of PDF documents to text?  I
seem to recall that there's a place that we can Email PDF documents to, 
and

it'll convert them. Is it any good? The problem with that approach is most
of these documents are larger than 10 MB, which I believe exceeds the
largest Email attachment I can send.

I welcome all suggestions and insights.  Failing that, I will contact the
publishers and ask if I can get copies of the documents I've purchased in 
an

alternate electronic format.  It's just very frustrating to know that the
information is there and available, but still inaccessible to me.  Before 
I

contact the publishers, though, I want to make certain that I'm not doing
anything wrong.

Many thanks.

Nancy

I've tried saving files to text, and the


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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

[Nancy Feldman]

Hi Elf,

I play numerous games, and often pick up indie games.  In truth, most indie
games are accessible, but when they're not, most publishers are willing to
work with me to get copies in alternative formats.

So, the primary offenders are:

Just about everything from White Wolf. I'd love to read their books, new and
old, but PDF conversions are absolutely, positively terrible.  One example,
Promethean, has a whole chapter that JAWS and other PDF interpreters (like
the one on the Braille Sense) cannot see at all.  Most books, like the
Exalted series, jumble everything together, or don't read the text in a
logical flow.

Dresden Files:  This is a small press game.  They did some cool layout
stuff, with numerous comments interspersed throughout the text that are
meant to provide levity and insight, but which simply confuse JAWS and other
PDF processes.

Amaranthine:  Another small press book.  This author didn't respond, and the
text is simply disorganized, with the thread of the text being lost at least
once per page.

Traveller: The tables are not presented logically, and Traveller has tons
and tons of tables.

Pathfinder: Mostly just text being presented out of order.

Can you help with any of these?

I believe in all cases Acrobat Reader says that these documents are
untagged.  I've been told that tagging is a time-consuming, tedious process.

Nancy


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of inthane
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

being an avid gamer myself, may I ask what system your attempting to find 
useable .pdf books of?

I have translations of several systems here, and have openbook which many 
times does a fair job of translating them to text.

elf
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
 own the might and majesty of an alacorn
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
 for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
- Original Message - 
From: Nancy Feldman nancy_feld...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 4:46 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files


 Good Morning,

 I am at my wit's end with PDF files, so I thought I'd inquire for help 
 here.
 If there's a better forum for this, or we should be discussing it off 
 list,
 I'd be happy to do that.

 I've used JAWS to read basic PDF files, ones with practically no 
 formatting.
 For instance, a novel in PDF format tends to read pretty well.

 But I purchase a lot of PDF documents from www.drivethrurpg.com, and most 
 of
 them aren't read very well by JAWS.  I've seen many of the following 
 errors.

 No spaces between words

 On two-column pages, the columns being smashed together and read as one
 nonsensical block of text

 With tables, the left hand column being presented first, and then the 
 right
 hand column, not side by side, but all the left hand column entries first,
 and then the right.
 Whole sections of books that JAWS cannot see at all, even though I am
 assured there is text there

 One pair of files where the author used lots of notes in the text and JAWS
 had no idea where to put them, so it just reads them mixed up with the 
 rest
 of the text.

 Because of all of these difficulties, I've concluded that I may need new
 strategies for dealing with PDF files.  Perhaps I'm doing something wrong?

 What are the optimal settings to use when opening a PDF file?  Is there
 anything I can do to improve the conversion of PDF documents to text?  I
 seem to recall that there's a place that we can Email PDF documents to, 
 and
 it'll convert them. Is it any good? The problem with that approach is most
 of these documents are larger than 10 MB, which I believe exceeds the
 largest Email attachment I can send.

 I welcome all suggestions and insights.  Failing that, I will contact the
 publishers and ask if I can get copies of the documents I've purchased in 
 an
 alternate electronic format.  It's just very frustrating to know that the
 information is there and available, but still inaccessible to me.  Before 
 I
 contact the publishers, though, I want to make certain that I'm not doing
 anything wrong.

 Many thanks.

 Nancy

 I've tried saving files to text, and the


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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

[Flor Lynch]

nancy,

it seems to me that the limitations you mention are due in large part to 
the free Adobe Reader's limitations. there is an Adobe Professional 
Edition, which (I believe) costs about $300, that would apparently 
convert those pdf's properly. Another option, if you have it, is to use 
OCR software to convert the pdf's and image pdf's into documents that 
will read more coherently. the other day, I came across a heavily tabled 
pdf, which read fine on the internet but which - when downloaded, JAWS12 
and the free Adobe Reader had difficulty with. it reads properly when 
converted by Kurzweil 1000, OCR,and would read well thus if converted by 
Open Book, etc.



- Original Message - 
From: Nancy Feldman nancy_feld...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 12:46 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files



Good Morning,

I am at my wit's end with PDF files, so I thought I'd inquire for help 
here.
If there's a better forum for this, or we should be discussing it off 
list,

I'd be happy to do that.

I've used JAWS to read basic PDF files, ones with practically no 
formatting.

For instance, a novel in PDF format tends to read pretty well.

But I purchase a lot of PDF documents from www.drivethrurpg.com, and 
most of
them aren't read very well by JAWS.  I've seen many of the following 
errors.


No spaces between words

On two-column pages, the columns being smashed together and read as 
one

nonsensical block of text

With tables, the left hand column being presented first, and then the 
right
hand column, not side by side, but all the left hand column entries 
first,

and then the right.
Whole sections of books that JAWS cannot see at all, even though I am
assured there is text there

One pair of files where the author used lots of notes in the text and 
JAWS
had no idea where to put them, so it just reads them mixed up with the 
rest

of the text.

Because of all of these difficulties, I've concluded that I may need 
new
strategies for dealing with PDF files.  Perhaps I'm doing something 
wrong?


What are the optimal settings to use when opening a PDF file?  Is 
there
anything I can do to improve the conversion of PDF documents to text? 
I
seem to recall that there's a place that we can Email PDF documents 
to, and
it'll convert them. Is it any good? The problem with that approach is 
most

of these documents are larger than 10 MB, which I believe exceeds the
largest Email attachment I can send.

I welcome all suggestions and insights.  Failing that, I will contact 
the
publishers and ask if I can get copies of the documents I've purchased 
in an
alternate electronic format.  It's just very frustrating to know that 
the
information is there and available, but still inaccessible to me. 
Before I
contact the publishers, though, I want to make certain that I'm not 
doing

anything wrong.

Many thanks.

Nancy

I've tried saving files to text, and the


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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

[Nancy Feldman]

Hi Flor,

Thanks for the suggestion. I knew I could use OpenBook to convert image PDFs
to something readable.  Most of the PDFs I purchase actually have textual
content, though, it just comes out wrong.
A
M I able to use OpenBook to convert regular PDF documents?

I'm curious enough I guess I'll go find out right now.

Again, thanks for the idea.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 7:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

nancy,

it seems to me that the limitations you mention are due in large part to 
the free Adobe Reader's limitations. there is an Adobe Professional 
Edition, which (I believe) costs about $300, that would apparently 
convert those pdf's properly. Another option, if you have it, is to use 
OCR software to convert the pdf's and image pdf's into documents that 
will read more coherently. the other day, I came across a heavily tabled 
pdf, which read fine on the internet but which - when downloaded, JAWS12 
and the free Adobe Reader had difficulty with. it reads properly when 
converted by Kurzweil 1000, OCR,and would read well thus if converted by 
Open Book, etc.


- Original Message - 
From: Nancy Feldman nancy_feld...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 12:46 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files


 Good Morning,

 I am at my wit's end with PDF files, so I thought I'd inquire for help 
 here.
 If there's a better forum for this, or we should be discussing it off 
 list,
 I'd be happy to do that.

 I've used JAWS to read basic PDF files, ones with practically no 
 formatting.
 For instance, a novel in PDF format tends to read pretty well.

 But I purchase a lot of PDF documents from www.drivethrurpg.com, and 
 most of
 them aren't read very well by JAWS.  I've seen many of the following 
 errors.

 No spaces between words

 On two-column pages, the columns being smashed together and read as 
 one
 nonsensical block of text

 With tables, the left hand column being presented first, and then the 
 right
 hand column, not side by side, but all the left hand column entries 
 first,
 and then the right.
 Whole sections of books that JAWS cannot see at all, even though I am
 assured there is text there

 One pair of files where the author used lots of notes in the text and 
 JAWS
 had no idea where to put them, so it just reads them mixed up with the 
 rest
 of the text.

 Because of all of these difficulties, I've concluded that I may need 
 new
 strategies for dealing with PDF files.  Perhaps I'm doing something 
 wrong?

 What are the optimal settings to use when opening a PDF file?  Is 
 there
 anything I can do to improve the conversion of PDF documents to text? 
 I
 seem to recall that there's a place that we can Email PDF documents 
 to, and
 it'll convert them. Is it any good? The problem with that approach is 
 most
 of these documents are larger than 10 MB, which I believe exceeds the
 largest Email attachment I can send.

 I welcome all suggestions and insights.  Failing that, I will contact 
 the
 publishers and ask if I can get copies of the documents I've purchased 
 in an
 alternate electronic format.  It's just very frustrating to know that 
 the
 information is there and available, but still inaccessible to me. 
 Before I
 contact the publishers, though, I want to make certain that I'm not 
 doing
 anything wrong.

 Many thanks.

 Nancy

 I've tried saving files to text, and the


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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

[Annette Carr]

At work I have Adobe Professional and also OPenBook 9.  I have found that
the OCR feature in Adobe Professional does a pretty good job on many of
those Empty PDF documents.  When I am not successful in Adobe
Professional, then I use the OpenBook Freedom printer and send the file to
OpenBook.  I do not have to deal much with locked PDF files from publishers
or PDF's that rely heavily on tables.  So, I do not know how much use you
will get from this information.

Annette

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Feldman
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 9:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

Hi Flor,

Thanks for the suggestion. I knew I could use OpenBook to convert image PDFs
to something readable.  Most of the PDFs I purchase actually have textual
content, though, it just comes out wrong.
A
M I able to use OpenBook to convert regular PDF documents?

I'm curious enough I guess I'll go find out right now.

Again, thanks for the idea.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 7:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

nancy,

it seems to me that the limitations you mention are due in large part to the
free Adobe Reader's limitations. there is an Adobe Professional Edition,
which (I believe) costs about $300, that would apparently convert those
pdf's properly. Another option, if you have it, is to use OCR software to
convert the pdf's and image pdf's into documents that will read more
coherently. the other day, I came across a heavily tabled pdf, which read
fine on the internet but which - when downloaded, JAWS12 and the free Adobe
Reader had difficulty with. it reads properly when converted by Kurzweil
1000, OCR,and would read well thus if converted by Open Book, etc.


- Original Message -
From: Nancy Feldman nancy_feld...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 12:46 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files


 Good Morning,

 I am at my wit's end with PDF files, so I thought I'd inquire for help 
 here.
 If there's a better forum for this, or we should be discussing it off 
 list,
 I'd be happy to do that.

 I've used JAWS to read basic PDF files, ones with practically no 
 formatting.
 For instance, a novel in PDF format tends to read pretty well.

 But I purchase a lot of PDF documents from www.drivethrurpg.com, and 
 most of
 them aren't read very well by JAWS.  I've seen many of the following 
 errors.

 No spaces between words

 On two-column pages, the columns being smashed together and read as 
 one
 nonsensical block of text

 With tables, the left hand column being presented first, and then the 
 right
 hand column, not side by side, but all the left hand column entries 
 first,
 and then the right.
 Whole sections of books that JAWS cannot see at all, even though I am
 assured there is text there

 One pair of files where the author used lots of notes in the text and 
 JAWS
 had no idea where to put them, so it just reads them mixed up with the 
 rest
 of the text.

 Because of all of these difficulties, I've concluded that I may need 
 new
 strategies for dealing with PDF files.  Perhaps I'm doing something 
 wrong?

 What are the optimal settings to use when opening a PDF file?  Is 
 there
 anything I can do to improve the conversion of PDF documents to text? 
 I
 seem to recall that there's a place that we can Email PDF documents 
 to, and
 it'll convert them. Is it any good? The problem with that approach is 
 most
 of these documents are larger than 10 MB, which I believe exceeds the
 largest Email attachment I can send.

 I welcome all suggestions and insights.  Failing that, I will contact 
 the
 publishers and ask if I can get copies of the documents I've purchased 
 in an
 alternate electronic format.  It's just very frustrating to know that 
 the
 information is there and available, but still inaccessible to me. 
 Before I
 contact the publishers, though, I want to make certain that I'm not 
 doing
 anything wrong.

 Many thanks.

 Nancy

 I've tried saving files to text, and the


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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

[Nancy Feldman]

Thanks, Annette.

The PDFs I purchase don't have images, they have text.  I'm not sure if
they're locked, or just have lots of complex layout that JAWS doesn't know
how to decipher.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 8:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

At work I have Adobe Professional and also OPenBook 9.  I have found that
the OCR feature in Adobe Professional does a pretty good job on many of
those Empty PDF documents.  When I am not successful in Adobe
Professional, then I use the OpenBook Freedom printer and send the file to
OpenBook.  I do not have to deal much with locked PDF files from publishers
or PDF's that rely heavily on tables.  So, I do not know how much use you
will get from this information.

Annette

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Feldman
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 9:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

Hi Flor,

Thanks for the suggestion. I knew I could use OpenBook to convert image PDFs
to something readable.  Most of the PDFs I purchase actually have textual
content, though, it just comes out wrong.
A
M I able to use OpenBook to convert regular PDF documents?

I'm curious enough I guess I'll go find out right now.

Again, thanks for the idea.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 7:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

nancy,

it seems to me that the limitations you mention are due in large part to the
free Adobe Reader's limitations. there is an Adobe Professional Edition,
which (I believe) costs about $300, that would apparently convert those
pdf's properly. Another option, if you have it, is to use OCR software to
convert the pdf's and image pdf's into documents that will read more
coherently. the other day, I came across a heavily tabled pdf, which read
fine on the internet but which - when downloaded, JAWS12 and the free Adobe
Reader had difficulty with. it reads properly when converted by Kurzweil
1000, OCR,and would read well thus if converted by Open Book, etc.


- Original Message -
From: Nancy Feldman nancy_feld...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 12:46 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files


 Good Morning,

 I am at my wit's end with PDF files, so I thought I'd inquire for help 
 here.
 If there's a better forum for this, or we should be discussing it off 
 list,
 I'd be happy to do that.

 I've used JAWS to read basic PDF files, ones with practically no 
 formatting.
 For instance, a novel in PDF format tends to read pretty well.

 But I purchase a lot of PDF documents from www.drivethrurpg.com, and 
 most of
 them aren't read very well by JAWS.  I've seen many of the following 
 errors.

 No spaces between words

 On two-column pages, the columns being smashed together and read as 
 one
 nonsensical block of text

 With tables, the left hand column being presented first, and then the 
 right
 hand column, not side by side, but all the left hand column entries 
 first,
 and then the right.
 Whole sections of books that JAWS cannot see at all, even though I am
 assured there is text there

 One pair of files where the author used lots of notes in the text and 
 JAWS
 had no idea where to put them, so it just reads them mixed up with the 
 rest
 of the text.

 Because of all of these difficulties, I've concluded that I may need 
 new
 strategies for dealing with PDF files.  Perhaps I'm doing something 
 wrong?

 What are the optimal settings to use when opening a PDF file?  Is 
 there
 anything I can do to improve the conversion of PDF documents to text? 
 I
 seem to recall that there's a place that we can Email PDF documents 
 to, and
 it'll convert them. Is it any good? The problem with that approach is 
 most
 of these documents are larger than 10 MB, which I believe exceeds the
 largest Email attachment I can send.

 I welcome all suggestions and insights.  Failing that, I will contact 
 the
 publishers and ask if I can get copies of the documents I've purchased 
 in an
 alternate electronic format.  It's just very frustrating to know that 
 the
 information is there and available, but still inaccessible to me. 
 Before I
 contact the publishers, though, I want to make certain that I'm not 
 doing
 anything wrong.

 Many thanks.

 Nancy

 I've tried saving files to text, and the


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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

[Flor Lynch]

I sometimes use my Kurzweil 1000 on an untagged and textual pdf (where 
there is no problem with JAWS) in order to find out more accurate 
information on layout of a page, (this being a newspaper. Some of the 
text is not where it should be on the page. K1000 does a better job than 
the free Adobe Reader, even if it's a little slower to get going.) 
Adobe's accessibility tools from the screen-reader's end do not solve 
all the problems we may encounter with pdf's, image or text.


- Original Message - 
From: Nancy Feldman nancy_feld...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files



Hi Flor,

Thanks for the suggestion. I knew I could use OpenBook to convert 
image PDFs
to something readable.  Most of the PDFs I purchase actually have 
textual

content, though, it just comes out wrong.
A
M I able to use OpenBook to convert regular PDF documents?

I'm curious enough I guess I'll go find out right now.

Again, thanks for the idea.


-Original Message-

From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor 
Lynch

Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 7:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

nancy,

it seems to me that the limitations you mention are due in large part 
to

the free Adobe Reader's limitations. there is an Adobe Professional
Edition, which (I believe) costs about $300, that would apparently
convert those pdf's properly. Another option, if you have it, is to 
use

OCR software to convert the pdf's and image pdf's into documents that
will read more coherently. the other day, I came across a heavily 
tabled
pdf, which read fine on the internet but which - when downloaded, 
JAWS12

and the free Adobe Reader had difficulty with. it reads properly when
converted by Kurzweil 1000, OCR,and would read well thus if converted 
by

Open Book, etc.


- Original Message - 

From: Nancy Feldman nancy_feld...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 12:46 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files



Good Morning,

I am at my wit's end with PDF files, so I thought I'd inquire for 
help

here.
If there's a better forum for this, or we should be discussing it off
list,
I'd be happy to do that.

I've used JAWS to read basic PDF files, ones with practically no
formatting.
For instance, a novel in PDF format tends to read pretty well.

But I purchase a lot of PDF documents from www.drivethrurpg.com, and
most of
them aren't read very well by JAWS.  I've seen many of the following
errors.

No spaces between words

On two-column pages, the columns being smashed together and read as
one
nonsensical block of text

With tables, the left hand column being presented first, and then the
right
hand column, not side by side, but all the left hand column entries
first,
and then the right.
Whole sections of books that JAWS cannot see at all, even though I am
assured there is text there

One pair of files where the author used lots of notes in the text and
JAWS
had no idea where to put them, so it just reads them mixed up with 
the

rest
of the text.

Because of all of these difficulties, I've concluded that I may need
new
strategies for dealing with PDF files.  Perhaps I'm doing something
wrong?

What are the optimal settings to use when opening a PDF file?  Is
there
anything I can do to improve the conversion of PDF documents to text?
I
seem to recall that there's a place that we can Email PDF documents
to, and
it'll convert them. Is it any good? The problem with that approach is
most
of these documents are larger than 10 MB, which I believe exceeds the
largest Email attachment I can send.

I welcome all suggestions and insights.  Failing that, I will contact
the
publishers and ask if I can get copies of the documents I've 
purchased

in an
alternate electronic format.  It's just very frustrating to know that
the
information is there and available, but still inaccessible to me.
Before I
contact the publishers, though, I want to make certain that I'm not
doing
anything wrong.

Many thanks.

Nancy

I've tried saving files to text, and the


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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

[Flor Lynch]

If they were locked, you'd know because you'd be asked for a password to 
unlock them to make available for reading, printing, etc. Again, where 
Adobe professional is not available, the OCR option is worth trying also 
on untagged or inaccessibly structured pdf's.


- Original Message - 
From: Nancy Feldman nancy_feld...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files



Thanks, Annette.

The PDFs I purchase don't have images, they have text.  I'm not sure 
if
they're locked, or just have lots of complex layout that JAWS doesn't 
know

how to decipher.


-Original Message-

From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Annette 
Carr

Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 8:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

At work I have Adobe Professional and also OPenBook 9.  I have found 
that
the OCR feature in Adobe Professional does a pretty good job on many 
of

those Empty PDF documents.  When I am not successful in Adobe
Professional, then I use the OpenBook Freedom printer and send the 
file to
OpenBook.  I do not have to deal much with locked PDF files from 
publishers
or PDF's that rely heavily on tables.  So, I do not know how much use 
you

will get from this information.

Annette

-Original Message-

From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nancy 
Feldman

Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 9:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

Hi Flor,

Thanks for the suggestion. I knew I could use OpenBook to convert 
image PDFs
to something readable.  Most of the PDFs I purchase actually have 
textual

content, though, it just comes out wrong.
A
M I able to use OpenBook to convert regular PDF documents?

I'm curious enough I guess I'll go find out right now.

Again, thanks for the idea.


-Original Message-

From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor 
Lynch

Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 7:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

nancy,

it seems to me that the limitations you mention are due in large part 
to the
free Adobe Reader's limitations. there is an Adobe Professional 
Edition,
which (I believe) costs about $300, that would apparently convert 
those
pdf's properly. Another option, if you have it, is to use OCR software 
to

convert the pdf's and image pdf's into documents that will read more
coherently. the other day, I came across a heavily tabled pdf, which 
read
fine on the internet but which - when downloaded, JAWS12 and the free 
Adobe
Reader had difficulty with. it reads properly when converted by 
Kurzweil

1000, OCR,and would read well thus if converted by Open Book, etc.


- Original Message -

From: Nancy Feldman nancy_feld...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 12:46 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files



Good Morning,

I am at my wit's end with PDF files, so I thought I'd inquire for 
help

here.
If there's a better forum for this, or we should be discussing it off
list,
I'd be happy to do that.

I've used JAWS to read basic PDF files, ones with practically no
formatting.
For instance, a novel in PDF format tends to read pretty well.

But I purchase a lot of PDF documents from www.drivethrurpg.com, and
most of
them aren't read very well by JAWS.  I've seen many of the following
errors.

No spaces between words

On two-column pages, the columns being smashed together and read as
one
nonsensical block of text

With tables, the left hand column being presented first, and then the
right
hand column, not side by side, but all the left hand column entries
first,
and then the right.
Whole sections of books that JAWS cannot see at all, even though I am
assured there is text there

One pair of files where the author used lots of notes in the text and
JAWS
had no idea where to put them, so it just reads them mixed up with 
the

rest
of the text.

Because of all of these difficulties, I've concluded that I may need
new
strategies for dealing with PDF files.  Perhaps I'm doing something
wrong?

What are the optimal settings to use when opening a PDF file?  Is
there
anything I can do to improve the conversion of PDF documents to text?
I
seem to recall that there's a place that we can Email PDF documents
to, and
it'll convert them. Is it any good? The problem with that approach is
most
of these documents are larger than 10 MB, which I believe exceeds the
largest Email attachment I can send.

I welcome all suggestions and insights.  Failing that, I will contact
the
publishers and ask if I can get copies of the documents I've 
purchased

in an
alternate electronic format.  It's just very frustrating to know that
the
information

Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

[David]

hello there;

1, open your PDF with adobe 10x.

2, press the alt-key, right arrow to edit,
now up arrow and enter on,
accessibility sub-menu,
and then enter on,
change reading options,
now, a wizard will come up, use your arrow key and select;
Reading Order: Use reading order in raw print stream

now tab,
and down arrow to select, read entire document,
now tab,
enter on start button,

also, did you  go through the,
setup assistant?

- Original Message - 
From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 1:38 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files


Hi Guys,

I am very new to JAWS, so I apologise in advance for my lack of knowledge. 
I have been sent a PDF form and have been assured that it is accessible and 
can be completed and then printed off.

I have never opened a PDF on Windows before as I am generally a Mac user, 
but sadly VoiceOver on the Mac does not play nicely with Adobe products.

I opened the PDF in Adobe Acrobat 10 and the version of JAWS is 11.  Should 
the PDF start reading automatically?  I have tabbed around and also hit the 
arrow keys, but nothing seems to happen.

I can get the application menus to work, but I can't seem to get JAWS to 
speak anything on the 7 page document.  I have enough sight to see that it 
is not a blank page.

Do I have to do anything specific with a interactive form?  Or is there a 
keyboard shortcut I am not pressing to tell JAWS to start reading the PDF?

Many thanks in advance and if anyone would rather discuss this off list, 
then feel free to email me.

Chris

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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

[LaMcAs]

Hi Alan

Why bother with printing it at all?

Open OpenBook and open the pdf file there and OB will do what is needed to
read it to you!

Just like you get paper stuff through your post to read you just scan it,
having the computer copy of something just cuts out the scanning bit.

You can print anything you produce to the OpenBook Virtual printer, I'm
pretty sure of that but if I'm wrong someone will correct me!


Larry  Elliot GD (Guide Dog)
London, UK


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From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Alan Dicey
Sent: 30 January 2011 19:14
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

Hello Friends,
I never receive many PDF Files, and the ones I do are usually advertising,
so I never bother with them.

I am sorry if this question sounds stupid, but instead of worrying about
Adobe  which I have not really had any success with for years, if I ever
receive anything important, can I simply print out the PDF file, and scan it
with Open Book?

I mean, there is an option to print out the PDF file correct?

Once again, I apologize if this is off the wall, just never had any luck
with using Adobe  .

I am a pretty lame JAWS user!
Even though I have been using it for 11 years now!

With Best Regards,
Alan
Miami, Florida
Alan Dicey, President
United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA Yes, Blind and Visually
Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess!
United States Braille Chess Association Home Page: 
http://AmericanBlindChess.org


- Original Message -
From: David davidwhitehead1...@cogeco.ca
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files


 hello there;

 1, open your PDF with adobe 10x.

 2, press the alt-key, right arrow to edit,
 now up arrow and enter on,
 accessibility sub-menu,
 and then enter on,
 change reading options,
 now, a wizard will come up, use your arrow key and select;
 Reading Order: Use reading order in raw print stream

 now tab,
 and down arrow to select, read entire document,
 now tab,
 enter on start button,

 also, did you  go through the,
 setup assistant?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 1:38 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files


 Hi Guys,

 I am very new to JAWS, so I apologise in advance for my lack of knowledge.
 I have been sent a PDF form and have been assured that it is accessible 
 and
 can be completed and then printed off.

 I have never opened a PDF on Windows before as I am generally a Mac user,
 but sadly VoiceOver on the Mac does not play nicely with Adobe products.

 I opened the PDF in Adobe Acrobat 10 and the version of JAWS is 11. 
 Should
 the PDF start reading automatically?  I have tabbed around and also hit 
 the
 arrow keys, but nothing seems to happen.

 I can get the application menus to work, but I can't seem to get JAWS to
 speak anything on the 7 page document.  I have enough sight to see that it
 is not a blank page.

 Do I have to do anything specific with a interactive form?  Or is there a
 keyboard shortcut I am not pressing to tell JAWS to start reading the PDF?

 Many thanks in advance and if anyone would rather discuss this off list,
 then feel free to email me.

 Chris

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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

[Chris Moore]

Yup did all that and still no luck!  However, the document can be read out by 
the built in screen reader that comes with Acrobat Reader, but I don't think 
that allows me to fill in form fields.
On 30 Jan 2011, at 18:51, David wrote:

 hello there;
 
 1, open your PDF with adobe 10x.
 
 2, press the alt-key, right arrow to edit,
 now up arrow and enter on,
 accessibility sub-menu,
 and then enter on,
 change reading options,
 now, a wizard will come up, use your arrow key and select;
 Reading Order: Use reading order in raw print stream
 
 now tab,
 and down arrow to select, read entire document,
 now tab,
 enter on start button,
 
 also, did you  go through the,
 setup assistant?
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 1:38 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files
 
 
 Hi Guys,
 
 I am very new to JAWS, so I apologise in advance for my lack of knowledge. 
 I have been sent a PDF form and have been assured that it is accessible and 
 can be completed and then printed off.
 
 I have never opened a PDF on Windows before as I am generally a Mac user, 
 but sadly VoiceOver on the Mac does not play nicely with Adobe products.
 
 I opened the PDF in Adobe Acrobat 10 and the version of JAWS is 11.  Should 
 the PDF start reading automatically?  I have tabbed around and also hit the 
 arrow keys, but nothing seems to happen.
 
 I can get the application menus to work, but I can't seem to get JAWS to 
 speak anything on the 7 page document.  I have enough sight to see that it 
 is not a blank page.
 
 Do I have to do anything specific with a interactive form?  Or is there a 
 keyboard shortcut I am not pressing to tell JAWS to start reading the PDF?
 
 Many thanks in advance and if anyone would rather discuss this off list, 
 then feel free to email me.
 
 Chris
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

[Van Der Walt Riana]

Dear Alan,

I've never got pdf files  to convert successfully using openbook 7.02,
even though one is supposed to be able to do it via the virtual printer,
as openbook hangs the pc and I ended up having to restart, as all
speech, including jaws was gone.

If the document in pdf is printed material and not graphics, the
versions of Jaws since version 10 works ok with Adobe from version 8.

The alternative option would be to use a mainstream scanning program
like omnipage with jaws, or Kurzweil.

I don't personally have experience doing the OCR with Omnipage, but a
blind colleague  gets good results with Omnipage and assists me
regularly with conversions of court cases.

Regards,

Riana


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Alan Dicey
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 11:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

Dear Larry ,
I did not know that!

I am just about as lame with Open Book as I am with JAWS!
LOL!

I best take this to the Open Book list then, but thank you for the great

tip!
Sounds great!

With Best Regards,
Alan
Miami, Florida
Alan Dicey, President
United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA
Yes, Blind and Visually Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess!
United States Braille Chess Association Home Page: 
http://AmericanBlindChess.org


- Original Message - 
From: LaMcAs lamca...@yahoo.co.uk
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files


 Hi Alan

 Why bother with printing it at all?

 Open OpenBook and open the pdf file there and OB will do what is
needed to
 read it to you!

 Just like you get paper stuff through your post to read you just scan
it,
 having the computer copy of something just cuts out the scanning bit.

 You can print anything you produce to the OpenBook Virtual printer,
I'm
 pretty sure of that but if I'm wrong someone will correct me!


 Larry  Elliot GD (Guide Dog)
 London, UK


 -Original Message-
 From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Alan
Dicey
 Sent: 30 January 2011 19:14
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

 Hello Friends,
 I never receive many PDF Files, and the ones I do are usually
advertising,
 so I never bother with them.

 I am sorry if this question sounds stupid, but instead of worrying
about
 Adobe  which I have not really had any success with for years, if I
ever
 receive anything important, can I simply print out the PDF file, and
scan 
 it
 with Open Book?

 I mean, there is an option to print out the PDF file correct?

 Once again, I apologize if this is off the wall, just never had any
luck
 with using Adobe  .

 I am a pretty lame JAWS user!
 Even though I have been using it for 11 years now!

 With Best Regards,
 Alan
 Miami, Florida
 Alan Dicey, President
 United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA Yes, Blind and
Visually
 Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess!
 United States Braille Chess Association Home Page:
 http://AmericanBlindChess.org


 - Original Message -
 From: David davidwhitehead1...@cogeco.ca
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 1:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files


 hello there;

 1, open your PDF with adobe 10x.

 2, press the alt-key, right arrow to edit,
 now up arrow and enter on,
 accessibility sub-menu,
 and then enter on,
 change reading options,
 now, a wizard will come up, use your arrow key and select;
 Reading Order: Use reading order in raw print stream

 now tab,
 and down arrow to select, read entire document,
 now tab,
 enter on start button,

 also, did you  go through the,
 setup assistant?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 1:38 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files


 Hi Guys,

 I am very new to JAWS, so I apologise in advance for my lack of 
 knowledge.
 I have been sent a PDF form and have been assured that it is
accessible
 and
 can be completed and then printed off.

 I have never opened a PDF on Windows before as I am generally a Mac
user,
 but sadly VoiceOver on the Mac does not play nicely with Adobe
products.

 I opened the PDF in Adobe Acrobat 10 and the version of JAWS is 11.
 Should
 the PDF start reading automatically?  I have tabbed around and also
hit
 the
 arrow keys, but nothing seems to happen.

 I can get the application menus to work, but I can't seem to get JAWS
to
 speak anything on the 7 page document.  I have enough sight to see
that 
 it
 is not a blank page.

 Do I have to do anything specific with a interactive form?  Or is
there a
 keyboard shortcut I am not pressing to tell JAWS to start reading the

 PDF?

 Many thanks in advance and if anyone would rather discuss this off
list,
 then feel free to email me.

 Chris

Re: [JAWS-Users] pdf files

[Kimsan]

Phil:
I just did it on my computer, so hopefully it will work for you.
I just pressed windows key F, typed in PDF and everything that has
to do with PDF's came up. Emails, documents, etc. Take care buddy!

Please visit me on facebook at blindgu...@gmail.com or follow me on twitter
at www.twitter.com/kimsansong


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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Phil Templet
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 8:29 AM
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] pdf files

Is there a way to locate all PDF files on your computer?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] pdf files

[Steve]

Sure, do a windows search (windows key f), put in *.pdf, have it start 
searching in your hard drive's root directory i.e. c:\ and then check the 
box to search in all subfolders.


Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI

- Original Message - 
From: Phil Templet ptemp...@lsvi.org

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 11:29 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] pdf files



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Re: [JAWS-Users] pdf files

[Jeronimo Schöber]

Hello,
when in the search dialogue of windows select files and folders. Next 
activate a button that has to be called something like more options.

Select adobe acrobat document. Leave the file name empty and voilà.
All pdf documents.
I always hope I am clear enough since I don't know the exact names of the 
buttons and menus in an english version of windows.

So be creative.
Everything I did was reachable by tab key. No need for Jaws cursor.
Cheers
Jeronimo

- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan blindgu...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] pdf files



Phil:
I just did it on my computer, so hopefully it will work for you.
I just pressed windows key F, typed in PDF and everything that has
to do with PDF's came up. Emails, documents, etc. Take care buddy!

Please visit me on facebook at blindgu...@gmail.com or follow me on 
twitter

at www.twitter.com/kimsansong


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Phil Templet
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 8:29 AM
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] pdf files

Is there a way to locate all PDF files on your computer?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] pdf files

[Mark Stimson]

Hi Phil,

There is a software program called CommonLook PDF Enterprise Compliance
Management Framework (or ECMF) which automatically locates PDF documents on
systems.  Furthermore, it gives you verification of which of those PDFs are
Section 508 and W3C complaint, and are likely to work well with JAWS.  If
you're located in California, contact me directly for more info.  If not,
contact NetCentric directly www.net-centric.com .

Best regards, Mark

Mark Stimson, Ph.D.
Accessibility Specialist
ma...@accessingenuity.com 
www.DocumentAccessibility.com 
www.AccessIngenuity.com 



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To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] pdf files

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Re: [JAWS-Users] pdf files and jaws

[Marilyn Walker]

Jeffrey, perhaps it is just my system, etc., but the first link said url 
can't be found.  marilyn 


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