Re: [JAWS-Users] audio file

2015-09-28 Thread Janie Degenshein

it wraps to two lines
would you put it on one please

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From: David Ferrin 
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 5:48 PM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] audio file 


Here it is at long last, hope it helps those of you who are interested.

http://www.jaws-users.com/audio/Windows/RecordingYourVoice
dows10.mp3


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Re: [JAWS-Users] audio file

2015-09-28 Thread Michael Babcock
http://is.gd/SKAjdO 

> On Sep 28, 2015, at 2:54 PM, Michael Babcock  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Sep 28, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Janie Degenshein  wrote:
>> 
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/audio/Windows/RecordingYourVoice 
>> 
>> dows10.mp3
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] audio file

2015-09-28 Thread Michael Babcock

> On Sep 28, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Janie Degenshein  wrote:
> 
> http://www.jaws-users.com/audio/Windows/RecordingYourVoice 
> 
> dows10.mp3

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Re: [JAWS-Users] audio file

2015-09-28 Thread David Ferrin
It is on the server like I said it would be on the Audio page.

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Behalf Of Janie Degenshein
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 5:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] audio file

it wraps to two lines
would you put it on one please

-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 5:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] audio file 

Here it is at long last, hope it helps those of you who are interested.

http://www.jaws-users.com/audio/Windows/RecordingYourVoice
dows10.mp3


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Re: [JAWS-Users] audio file

2015-09-28 Thread valiant8086

Hi.
I just tried recording with two gold wave windows simultaneously, in the 
devices tab of options (f11), I had one window set to record microphone 
-realtek), in the other one, I had that set to (loopback realtek). You 
have to do something that'll be heard in both the microphone and on the 
internal sound at roughly the same time, for this I tried whacking a 
button loudly so I'd hear me pressing the button and the speech 
response. When mixing, I tried to duplicate the noise of me whacking the 
key in the one track to match up with the response from jaws, it's 
definitely kind of complicated, but it worked and it worked 
astonishingly well. I think if one is trying to do a really nice quality 
podcast or just a good quality review of something, this is a good way 
to do it. Just save one of the two files when finished to the hard 
drive, close the window that made the file just saved, and then open the 
file in the remaining window, and that window will be the one you use to 
mix the two files together.


I could try to figure out how to demo this too if anybody thinks they 
might want to try it.



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Developing "very good audiogames" for the blind community 
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On 9/28/2015 5:48 PM, David Ferrin wrote:

Here it is at long last, hope it helps those of you who are interested.

http://www.jaws-users.com/audio/Windows/RecordingYourVoice
dows10.mp3


David Ferrin
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a simpler system that worked perfectly.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] audio file

2015-09-28 Thread David Ferrin
I did mine with a single instance of Gold Wave. Yes the echo in my ears does 
take a bit of getting accustomed to working with it. I fiddled with the 
volume of my voice and jaws before recording. I do my recordings under the 
impression that if a person is going to try whatever the tutorial is about 
then by that point they have achieved certain abilities and can figure 
various things out for themselves.


Do a demo and if it is posted I'll give it a listen as I know there is 
always more than one way to do things on a computer.
-Original Message- 
From: valiant8086

Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 9:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] audio file

Hi.
I just tried recording with two gold wave windows simultaneously, in the
devices tab of options (f11), I had one window set to record microphone
-realtek), in the other one, I had that set to (loopback realtek). You
have to do something that'll be heard in both the microphone and on the
internal sound at roughly the same time, for this I tried whacking a
button loudly so I'd hear me pressing the button and the speech
response. When mixing, I tried to duplicate the noise of me whacking the
key in the one track to match up with the response from jaws, it's
definitely kind of complicated, but it worked and it worked
astonishingly well. I think if one is trying to do a really nice quality
podcast or just a good quality review of something, this is a good way
to do it. Just save one of the two files when finished to the hard
drive, close the window that made the file just saved, and then open the
file in the remaining window, and that window will be the one you use to
mix the two files together.

I could try to figure out how to demo this too if anybody thinks they
might want to try it.


Cheers, Aaron Spears, general Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates
Developing "very good audiogames" for the blind community
http://valiantGalaxy.com Sent with Thunderbird 38.2.0 portable
On 9/28/2015 5:48 PM, David Ferrin wrote:

Here it is at long last, hope it helps those of you who are interested.

http://www.jaws-users.com/audio/Windows/RecordingYourVoice
dows10.mp3


David Ferrin
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from

a simpler system that worked perfectly.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] audio file

2015-09-28 Thread valiant8086

Hi.
That ought to be helpful, yes indeed. The only issue I have with that 
method is that often the microphone is too quiet compared to the level 
of the internally generated audio, as in your demo. In some cases, full 
volume on the microphone wasn't nearly loud enough. Also, there is 
generally some latency to the looped back audio, so you hear what you 
said with a short delay coming through your earphones, pretty 
disconcerting, makes it tough to talk properly.


Also in your audio you didn't mention that the recording application 
needs to be recording from either stereo mix or from loopback that is 
associated with the sound device who's audio you want, plus the 
microphone you're using needs to be listened to on that same audio device.


Lol, did I just punch a bunch of holes in your overview or what, sorry 
about that, I actually did appreciate the walkthrough, dog gone me and 
my views grin.


Btw, there isn't any other methods that I am aware of that don't involve 
using a third party app like sound tap or using a mixer. You can mess 
around with virtual audio cable driver to accomplish this in a 
round-about manner, but it isn't of any better use than the way you cover.


Hmm you know, I wonder if it is possible to use two gold wave or other 
daw windows both recording at the same time, from different inputs one 
being stereo mix or loopback and the other being your microphone, and 
then mix them together, kinda clunky but potentially has better results. 
Probably not possible though, at least not while using both stereo mix 
and mic input at the same time on the same audio device. Might work if 
you have two actual audio devices one of which is doing it's stereo mix 
or loopback and the other audio device is being used just for microphone 
input.





Cheers, Aaron Spears, general Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates 
Developing "very good audiogames" for the blind community 
http://valiantGalaxy.com Sent with Thunderbird 38.2.0 portable

On 9/28/2015 5:48 PM, David Ferrin wrote:

Here it is at long last, hope it helps those of you who are interested.

http://www.jaws-users.com/audio/Windows/RecordingYourVoice
dows10.mp3


David Ferrin
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a simpler system that worked perfectly.



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