Re: jetspeed = slowspeed?

2002-08-29 Thread Massimiliano Dessi

Optimization for the jvm

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/docs/tooldocs/linux/java.html

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/docs/tooldocs/solaris/java.html

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/docs/tooldocs/win32/java.html

in the catalina.bat use CATALINA_OPTS or JAVA_OPS  noth both



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From: Anandkumar Ayyachamy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:24 AM
Subject: Re: jetspeed = slowspeed?


 In the catalina .bat file

 Carlos Orrego wrote:

 sorry for the dumb question, but where do you set the CATALINA_OPTIONS to
set -Xmx and -Xms parameters?
 i have been trying to do this for a while with no luck
 
 thx
 
 carlos
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Saddest OfAllKeys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 12:29 PM
 To: Jetspeed Users List
 Subject: Re: jetspeed = slowspeed?
 
 
 
 I'm no expert but try the following:
 
 -- change all logging levels in the
 ~/WEB-INF/conf/*.properties files to be INFO instead
 of DEBUG
 
 -- give Tomcat a lot of memory via the
 CATALINA_OPTIONS. e.g. -Xmx256m and -Xms128m
 
 -- look for velocity caching options in
 TurbineResources.properties and turn it on
 
 Please let us know if you find anything else that
 helps.
 
 thanks,
 Mike
 
 --- Woody Sturges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Andrew,
 
   I'm a newbie too.  Welcome.  Something I noticed
 is that some of the
 example portlets will take a while when you refresh
 the page (especially
 if they're trying to grab stuff off the inet or are
 having problems).
 Have you tried making your new portlet the only one
 on your current
 pane?  That would rule out the effect of other
 portlets interfering with
 response time.  If that does it, then you can slowly
 add portlets to
 identify the problem causer...
 
 Woody
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/28/02 06:44AM 
 
 Hi,
 I'm a jetspeed newbie, impressed with its
 functionality etc.  My only
 concern about using it in production is with
 response time.  A user
 portal
 page takes about 8-10 seconds to appear, even with
 just a 'hello
 world'
 portlet defined for the user.Meanwhile, I have
 some fairly
 intensive
 servlets on the same box that take only 1-2 seconds.
  (800MHz, NT,
 256Mb,
 JRun servlet engine.)
 
 My settings are prettly much out-of-the-box.
 cachedOnName=true
 cachedOnValue=true are set for all portlets.
 
 Are my response times the norm or am I missing
 something?  Would using
 external RDMS rather than Turbine improve things
 (I've tried SQL server
 and
 Sybase with no luck).?
 
 Thanks!
 Andrew
 
 
 
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Re: jetspeed = slowspeed?

2002-08-29 Thread AMackay


Success!
Just to follow up, I modified TurbineResources.properties and changed all
logging from DEBUG to INFO.  I also enabled some more caching as follows:

module.cache=true
services.VelocityService.file.resource.loader.cache = true

This has had quite a noticable affect. Page refreshes are now sub 1 second.
I believe the caching is what did it.  The initial compile after restart is
still over 2 minutes... but I think I can live with that.  Thanks for all
the suggestions!
Andrew


   

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  List

   

   





Just a general note, to the speed, the others have given hints
on how to speed things up already. The mentioned speed in the
beginning of this thread is definitely not normal. I currently
develop into a local jetspeed server and none of my portlets had a
response time
above more than a few miliseconds (tomcat 4.1 increased the speed
which already was good in 3.3.x)

First of all. The first startup takes a little bit of time since
JSPs have to be compiled but after that it should run almost as fast
as a normal JSP page, Velocity is close to non existent in the loading
times. The speed difference between custom JSP pages an jetspeed
portlets/portals is neglegtable from what I saw on my development
system. Kudos to the Velocity/Jetspeed/Turbine developers for that they
did one hell of a job.





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Re: jetspeed = slowspeed?

2002-08-29 Thread Josh Hone

But when you refresh are you bringing any new content up?  For my app, it is 
not worthwhile to refresh just to see the same old cached portlets.

Josh Hone


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Success!
Just to follow up, I modified TurbineResources.properties and changed all
logging from DEBUG to INFO.  I also enabled some more caching as follows:

module.cache=true
services.VelocityService.file.resource.loader.cache = true

This has had quite a noticable affect. Page refreshes are now sub 1 second.
I believe the caching is what did it.  The initial compile after restart is
still over 2 minutes... but I think I can live with that.  Thanks for all
the suggestions!
Andrew



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List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
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slowspeed?
   Please respond to
   Jetspeed Users
   List






Just a general note, to the speed, the others have given hints
on how to speed things up already. The mentioned speed in the
beginning of this thread is definitely not normal. I currently
develop into a local jetspeed server and none of my portlets had a
response time
above more than a few miliseconds (tomcat 4.1 increased the speed
which already was good in 3.3.x)

First of all. The first startup takes a little bit of time since
JSPs have to be compiled but after that it should run almost as fast
as a normal JSP page, Velocity is close to non existent in the loading
times. The speed difference between custom JSP pages an jetspeed
portlets/portals is neglegtable from what I saw on my development
system. Kudos to the Velocity/Jetspeed/Turbine developers for that they
did one hell of a job.





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Re: jetspeed = slowspeed?

2002-08-29 Thread Stephen Jackson

A little late getting in on the topic, but if you are using Linux or Unix add 
the -server option (first one). You should see faster execution. 

On Wednesday 28 August 2002 12:29 pm, you wrote:
 I'm no expert but try the following:

 -- change all logging levels in the
 ~/WEB-INF/conf/*.properties files to be INFO instead
 of DEBUG

 -- give Tomcat a lot of memory via the
 CATALINA_OPTIONS. e.g. -Xmx256m and -Xms128m

 -- look for velocity caching options in
 TurbineResources.properties and turn it on

 Please let us know if you find anything else that
 helps.

 thanks,
 Mike

 --- Woody Sturges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Andrew,
 
I'm a newbie too.  Welcome.  Something I noticed
  is that some of the
  example portlets will take a while when you refresh
  the page (especially
  if they're trying to grab stuff off the inet or are
  having problems).
  Have you tried making your new portlet the only one
  on your current
  pane?  That would rule out the effect of other
  portlets interfering with
  response time.  If that does it, then you can slowly
  add portlets to
  identify the problem causer...
 
  Woody
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/28/02 06:44AM 
 
  Hi,
  I'm a jetspeed newbie, impressed with its
  functionality etc.  My only
  concern about using it in production is with
  response time.  A user
  portal
  page takes about 8-10 seconds to appear, even with
  just a 'hello
  world'
  portlet defined for the user.Meanwhile, I have
  some fairly
  intensive
  servlets on the same box that take only 1-2 seconds.
   (800MHz, NT,
  256Mb,
  JRun servlet engine.)
 
  My settings are prettly much out-of-the-box.
  cachedOnName=true
  cachedOnValue=true are set for all portlets.
 
  Are my response times the norm or am I missing
  something?  Would using
  external RDMS rather than Turbine improve things
  (I've tried SQL server
  and
  Sybase with no luck).?
 
  Thanks!
  Andrew
 
 
 
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jetspeed = slowspeed?

2002-08-28 Thread AMackay

Hi,
I'm a jetspeed newbie, impressed with its functionality etc.  My only
concern about using it in production is with response time.  A user portal
page takes about 8-10 seconds to appear, even with just a 'hello world'
portlet defined for the user.Meanwhile, I have some fairly intensive
servlets on the same box that take only 1-2 seconds.  (800MHz, NT, 256Mb,
JRun servlet engine.)

My settings are prettly much out-of-the-box.  cachedOnName=true
cachedOnValue=true are set for all portlets.

Are my response times the norm or am I missing something?  Would using
external RDMS rather than Turbine improve things (I've tried SQL server and
Sybase with no luck).?

Thanks!
Andrew



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Re: jetspeed = slowspeed?

2002-08-28 Thread Woody Sturges

Andrew,

  I'm a newbie too.  Welcome.  Something I noticed is that some of the
example portlets will take a while when you refresh the page (especially
if they're trying to grab stuff off the inet or are having problems). 
Have you tried making your new portlet the only one on your current
pane?  That would rule out the effect of other portlets interfering with
response time.  If that does it, then you can slowly add portlets to
identify the problem causer...

Woody

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/28/02 06:44AM 
Hi,
I'm a jetspeed newbie, impressed with its functionality etc.  My only
concern about using it in production is with response time.  A user
portal
page takes about 8-10 seconds to appear, even with just a 'hello
world'
portlet defined for the user.Meanwhile, I have some fairly
intensive
servlets on the same box that take only 1-2 seconds.  (800MHz, NT,
256Mb,
JRun servlet engine.)

My settings are prettly much out-of-the-box.  cachedOnName=true
cachedOnValue=true are set for all portlets.

Are my response times the norm or am I missing something?  Would using
external RDMS rather than Turbine improve things (I've tried SQL server
and
Sybase with no luck).?

Thanks!
Andrew



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Re: jetspeed = slowspeed?

2002-08-28 Thread Saddest OfAllKeys


I'm no expert but try the following:

-- change all logging levels in the
~/WEB-INF/conf/*.properties files to be INFO instead
of DEBUG

-- give Tomcat a lot of memory via the
CATALINA_OPTIONS. e.g. -Xmx256m and -Xms128m 

-- look for velocity caching options in
TurbineResources.properties and turn it on

Please let us know if you find anything else that
helps.

thanks,
Mike

--- Woody Sturges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Andrew,
 
   I'm a newbie too.  Welcome.  Something I noticed
 is that some of the
 example portlets will take a while when you refresh
 the page (especially
 if they're trying to grab stuff off the inet or are
 having problems). 
 Have you tried making your new portlet the only one
 on your current
 pane?  That would rule out the effect of other
 portlets interfering with
 response time.  If that does it, then you can slowly
 add portlets to
 identify the problem causer...
 
 Woody
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/28/02 06:44AM 
 Hi,
 I'm a jetspeed newbie, impressed with its
 functionality etc.  My only
 concern about using it in production is with
 response time.  A user
 portal
 page takes about 8-10 seconds to appear, even with
 just a 'hello
 world'
 portlet defined for the user.Meanwhile, I have
 some fairly
 intensive
 servlets on the same box that take only 1-2 seconds.
  (800MHz, NT,
 256Mb,
 JRun servlet engine.)
 
 My settings are prettly much out-of-the-box. 
 cachedOnName=true
 cachedOnValue=true are set for all portlets.
 
 Are my response times the norm or am I missing
 something?  Would using
 external RDMS rather than Turbine improve things
 (I've tried SQL server
 and
 Sybase with no luck).?
 
 Thanks!
 Andrew
 
 
 
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Re: jetspeed = slowspeed?

2002-08-28 Thread Scott

I've found that the default templates (JSP and Velocity) tend to be
extraordinarily slow. I am not sure exactly what causes this. However, I
replaced the majority of the most used with my own, and Jetspeed response
times have increased dramatically, so much so that I am no longer
experiencing any of those annoying drags..

Along the same lines, I've found that after I replaced these templates, I am
unable to create a link to the (default) user creation template (which is in
all of the default locations). The jetspeed:uriLookup type=Enrollment
points to the appropriate place, however, trying to access that href seems
to simply reload the current page. Does it matter if the template I am using
this from is a navigation or a screen (currently it is a navigation,
although in the default templates, the link is made in a screen)?

Thanks,

Scott


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From: Woody Sturges [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 5:28 AM
Subject: Re: jetspeed = slowspeed?


 Andrew,

   I'm a newbie too.  Welcome.  Something I noticed is that some of the
 example portlets will take a while when you refresh the page (especially
 if they're trying to grab stuff off the inet or are having problems).
 Have you tried making your new portlet the only one on your current
 pane?  That would rule out the effect of other portlets interfering with
 response time.  If that does it, then you can slowly add portlets to
 identify the problem causer...

 Woody

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/28/02 06:44AM 
 Hi,
 I'm a jetspeed newbie, impressed with its functionality etc.  My only
 concern about using it in production is with response time.  A user
 portal
 page takes about 8-10 seconds to appear, even with just a 'hello
 world'
 portlet defined for the user.Meanwhile, I have some fairly
 intensive
 servlets on the same box that take only 1-2 seconds.  (800MHz, NT,
 256Mb,
 JRun servlet engine.)

 My settings are prettly much out-of-the-box.  cachedOnName=true
 cachedOnValue=true are set for all portlets.

 Are my response times the norm or am I missing something?  Would using
 external RDMS rather than Turbine improve things (I've tried SQL server
 and
 Sybase with no luck).?

 Thanks!
 Andrew



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RE: jetspeed = slowspeed?

2002-08-28 Thread Wayne A Christian

Are you guys taking average measurements or measuring the first time display?  
Remember that these are JSPs and 
the first display includes the time to compile the underlining JSPs which represent 
the portlet collection.
What refresh/display speeds are you getting after the JSPs compile?

Wayne Christian
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Genesys Telecommunications Labs
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From: Woody Sturges [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 8:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: jetspeed = slowspeed?

Andrew,

  I'm a newbie too.  Welcome.  Something I noticed is that some of the
example portlets will take a while when you refresh the page (especially
if they're trying to grab stuff off the inet or are having problems).
Have you tried making your new portlet the only one on your current
pane?  That would rule out the effect of other portlets interfering with
response time.  If that does it, then you can slowly add portlets to
identify the problem causer...

Woody

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/28/02 06:44AM 
Hi,
I'm a jetspeed newbie, impressed with its functionality etc.  My only
concern about using it in production is with response time.  A user
portal
page takes about 8-10 seconds to appear, even with just a 'hello
world'
portlet defined for the user.Meanwhile, I have some fairly
intensive
servlets on the same box that take only 1-2 seconds.  (800MHz, NT,
256Mb,
JRun servlet engine.)

My settings are prettly much out-of-the-box.  cachedOnName=true
cachedOnValue=true are set for all portlets.

Are my response times the norm or am I missing something?  Would using
external RDMS rather than Turbine improve things (I've tried SQL server
and
Sybase with no luck).?

Thanks!
Andrew



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RE: jetspeed = slowspeed?

2002-08-28 Thread Carlos Orrego

sorry for the dumb question, but where do you set the CATALINA_OPTIONS to set -Xmx and 
-Xms parameters?
i have been trying to do this for a while with no luck

thx

carlos

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From: Saddest OfAllKeys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 12:29 PM
To: Jetspeed Users List
Subject: Re: jetspeed = slowspeed?



I'm no expert but try the following:

-- change all logging levels in the
~/WEB-INF/conf/*.properties files to be INFO instead
of DEBUG

-- give Tomcat a lot of memory via the
CATALINA_OPTIONS. e.g. -Xmx256m and -Xms128m 

-- look for velocity caching options in
TurbineResources.properties and turn it on

Please let us know if you find anything else that
helps.

thanks,
Mike

--- Woody Sturges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Andrew,
 
   I'm a newbie too.  Welcome.  Something I noticed
 is that some of the
 example portlets will take a while when you refresh
 the page (especially
 if they're trying to grab stuff off the inet or are
 having problems). 
 Have you tried making your new portlet the only one
 on your current
 pane?  That would rule out the effect of other
 portlets interfering with
 response time.  If that does it, then you can slowly
 add portlets to
 identify the problem causer...
 
 Woody
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/28/02 06:44AM 
 Hi,
 I'm a jetspeed newbie, impressed with its
 functionality etc.  My only
 concern about using it in production is with
 response time.  A user
 portal
 page takes about 8-10 seconds to appear, even with
 just a 'hello
 world'
 portlet defined for the user.Meanwhile, I have
 some fairly
 intensive
 servlets on the same box that take only 1-2 seconds.
  (800MHz, NT,
 256Mb,
 JRun servlet engine.)
 
 My settings are prettly much out-of-the-box. 
 cachedOnName=true
 cachedOnValue=true are set for all portlets.
 
 Are my response times the norm or am I missing
 something?  Would using
 external RDMS rather than Turbine improve things
 (I've tried SQL server
 and
 Sybase with no luck).?
 
 Thanks!
 Andrew
 
 
 
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Re: jetspeed = slowspeed?

2002-08-28 Thread Brian J. Glas

In the catalina.sh or catalina.bat.
At the top of the file with the JAVA_HOME and CATALINA_HOME, put CATALINA_OPTS= .

Also, if you use different browsers, does it make a difference?  Or is it server side 
slowdown that is the
same for both browsers?

Brian

Carlos Orrego wrote:

 sorry for the dumb question, but where do you set the CATALINA_OPTIONS to set -Xmx 
and -Xms parameters?
 i have been trying to do this for a while with no luck

 thx

 carlos

 -Original Message-
 From: Saddest OfAllKeys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 12:29 PM
 To: Jetspeed Users List
 Subject: Re: jetspeed = slowspeed?

 I'm no expert but try the following:

 -- change all logging levels in the
 ~/WEB-INF/conf/*.properties files to be INFO instead
 of DEBUG

 -- give Tomcat a lot of memory via the
 CATALINA_OPTIONS. e.g. -Xmx256m and -Xms128m

 -- look for velocity caching options in
 TurbineResources.properties and turn it on

 Please let us know if you find anything else that
 helps.

 thanks,
 Mike

 --- Woody Sturges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Andrew,
 
I'm a newbie too.  Welcome.  Something I noticed
  is that some of the
  example portlets will take a while when you refresh
  the page (especially
  if they're trying to grab stuff off the inet or are
  having problems).
  Have you tried making your new portlet the only one
  on your current
  pane?  That would rule out the effect of other
  portlets interfering with
  response time.  If that does it, then you can slowly
  add portlets to
  identify the problem causer...
 
  Woody
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/28/02 06:44AM 
  Hi,
  I'm a jetspeed newbie, impressed with its
  functionality etc.  My only
  concern about using it in production is with
  response time.  A user
  portal
  page takes about 8-10 seconds to appear, even with
  just a 'hello
  world'
  portlet defined for the user.Meanwhile, I have
  some fairly
  intensive
  servlets on the same box that take only 1-2 seconds.
   (800MHz, NT,
  256Mb,
  JRun servlet engine.)
 
  My settings are prettly much out-of-the-box.
  cachedOnName=true
  cachedOnValue=true are set for all portlets.
 
  Are my response times the norm or am I missing
  something?  Would using
  external RDMS rather than Turbine improve things
  (I've tried SQL server
  and
  Sybase with no luck).?
 
  Thanks!
  Andrew
 
 
 
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Re: jetspeed = slowspeed?

2002-08-28 Thread Werner Punz

Just a general note, to the speed, the others have given hints
on how to speed things up already. The mentioned speed in the
beginning of this thread is definitely not normal. I currently
develop into a local jetspeed server and none of my portlets had a 
response time
above more than a few miliseconds (tomcat 4.1 increased the speed
which already was good in 3.3.x)

First of all. The first startup takes a little bit of time since
JSPs have to be compiled but after that it should run almost as fast
as a normal JSP page, Velocity is close to non existent in the loading 
times. The speed difference between custom JSP pages an jetspeed 
portlets/portals is neglegtable from what I saw on my development 
system. Kudos to the Velocity/Jetspeed/Turbine developers for that they 
did one hell of a job.





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Re: jetspeed = slowspeed?

2002-08-28 Thread Anandkumar Ayyachamy

In the catalina .bat file

Carlos Orrego wrote:

sorry for the dumb question, but where do you set the CATALINA_OPTIONS to set -Xmx 
and -Xms parameters?
i have been trying to do this for a while with no luck

thx

carlos

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Subject: Re: jetspeed = slowspeed?



I'm no expert but try the following:

-- change all logging levels in the
~/WEB-INF/conf/*.properties files to be INFO instead
of DEBUG

-- give Tomcat a lot of memory via the
CATALINA_OPTIONS. e.g. -Xmx256m and -Xms128m 

-- look for velocity caching options in
TurbineResources.properties and turn it on

Please let us know if you find anything else that
helps.

thanks,
Mike

--- Woody Sturges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Andrew,

  I'm a newbie too.  Welcome.  Something I noticed
is that some of the
example portlets will take a while when you refresh
the page (especially
if they're trying to grab stuff off the inet or are
having problems). 
Have you tried making your new portlet the only one
on your current
pane?  That would rule out the effect of other
portlets interfering with
response time.  If that does it, then you can slowly
add portlets to
identify the problem causer...

Woody

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/28/02 06:44AM 

Hi,
I'm a jetspeed newbie, impressed with its
functionality etc.  My only
concern about using it in production is with
response time.  A user
portal
page takes about 8-10 seconds to appear, even with
just a 'hello
world'
portlet defined for the user.Meanwhile, I have
some fairly
intensive
servlets on the same box that take only 1-2 seconds.
 (800MHz, NT,
256Mb,
JRun servlet engine.)

My settings are prettly much out-of-the-box. 
cachedOnName=true
cachedOnValue=true are set for all portlets.

Are my response times the norm or am I missing
something?  Would using
external RDMS rather than Turbine improve things
(I've tried SQL server
and
Sybase with no luck).?

Thanks!
Andrew



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