[JOYnet] Prayer for the Pope (fwd)
Dear JY's, Forwarding an e-mail which I have received from one of my friends. With prayers, Greg Note: forwarded message attached. Missed your favourite TV serial last night? Try the new, Yahoo! TV. visit http://in.tv.yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] via web8005.mail.in.yahoo.com; 19 Mar 2003 15:18:55 +0500 (IST) X-Track: 1: 100 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from f28.sea2.hotmail.com (EHLO hotmail.com) (207.68.165.28) by mta103.mail.in.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Mar 2003 15:18:55 +0500 (IST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 01:48:54 -0800 Received: from 61.1.72.233 by sea2fd.sea2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:48:52 GMT X-Originating-IP: [61.1.72.233] X-Originating-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Gloria Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: Prayer for the Pope (fwd) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 15:18:52 +0530 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2003 09:48:54.0010 (UTC) FILETIME=[C0B00DA0:01C2EDFC] Content-Length: 956 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from text/html by demime 1.01a From: THERESA LOBO To: LOBO AUTA , Gloria Lobo Subject: Prayer for the Pope (fwd) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 12:41:45 +0530 (IST)His Holiness is specifically requesting that we pray for him in the Knowledge that his time among us is limited. By the same token, email is such a powerful tool for calling for help in praying an Our Father for him, which is all that will save him, and that we forward this to as many people around the world as is possible. Please don't forget to include him in your prayers, as well as forwarding this email. 1. Pope John Paul made this request about 3 weeks ago on praying the Angelus before the pilgrims in St. Peter's Square. He says that only through prayer will he be given strength from those who prayed. Let us help the Pope, whose prayers have helped so many of us. 2. Please send this to all your friends. 3. With your cooperation, in just a few days, millions of human beings willhave offered their prayers for John Paul II, and by the same token, offered their prayers to God. Let us never forget the power of prayer. _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
[JOYnet] INFORMATION
Dear JY's, Could I have the contact Nos. or e-mail id's of JY's in Dubai. Thanks, With prayerful wishes, Greg Missed your favourite TV serial last night? Try the new, Yahoo! TV. visit http://in.tv.yahoo.com === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
[JOYnet] The Other Woman
Dear JY's, Forwarding a mail which I have recived and I feel ite's worth sharing with everyone. Thanks, Greg Note: forwarded message attached. X-Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] via web8005.mail.in.yahoo.com; 31 Jan 2003 15:05:30 +0500 (IST) X-Track: 1: 100 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from webmail31.rediffmail.com (HELO rediffmail.com) (202.54.124.130) by mta101.in.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 2003 15:05:30 +0500 (IST) Received: (qmail 26745 invoked by uid 510); 31 Jan 2003 09:43:04 - Date: 31 Jan 2003 09:43:04 - Received: from unknown (210.212.160.187) by rediffmail.com via HTTP; 31 jan 2003 09:43:04 - MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Agnelo Anthony Cardozo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Agnelo Anthony Cardozo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: Fw: The Other Woman Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 3695 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/mixed by demime 0.99c.8 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Note: Forwarded message attached -- Orignal Message -- From: cleta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fw: The Other Woman MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: 001f01c2c8f2$087632c0$[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: cleta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fw: The Other Woman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.99c.8 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain - Original Message - From: Eddie Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 8:44 PM Subject: The Other Woman The Other Woman - Courtesy Vishwanath After 21 years of marriage, I discovered a new way of keeping alive the spark of love. A little while ago I had started to go out with another woman. It was really my wife's idea. I know that you love her, she said one day, taking me by surprise. But I love YOU, I protested. I know, but you also love her. The other woman that my wife wanted me to visit was my mother, who has been a widow for 19 years, but the demands of my work and my three children had made it possible to visit her only occasionally. That night I called to invite her to go out for dinner and a movie. What's wrong, are you well, she asked? My mother is the type of woman who suspects that a late night call or a surprise invitation is a sign of bad news. I thought that it would be pleasant to pass some time with you, I responded. Just the two of us. She thought about it for a moment then said I would like that very much. That Friday after work, as I drove over to pick her up I was a bit nervous. When I arrived at her house, I noticed that she, too, seemed to be nervous about our date. She waited in the door with her coat on. She had curled her hair and was wearing the dress that she had worn to celebrate her last wedding anniversary. She smiled from a face that was as radiant as an angel's. I told my friends that I was going to go out with my son, and they were impressed, she said, as she got into the car. They can't wait to hear about our meeting. We went to a restaurant that, although not elegant, was very nice and cozy. My mother took my arm as if she were the First Lady. After we sat down, I had to read the menu.Her eyes could only read large print. Half way through the entree, I lifted my eyes and saw Mom sitting there staring at me. A nostalgic smile was on her lips. It was I who used to have to read the menu when you were small!, she said. Then it's time that you relax and let me return the favor, I responded. During the dinner we had an agreeable conversation - nothing extraordinary - but catching up on recent events of each others life. We talked so much that we missed the movie. As we arrived at her house later, she said I'll go out with you again, but only if you let me invite you. I agreed. How was your dinner date? asked my wife when I got home. Very nice. Much more so than I could have imagined, I answered. A few days later my mother died of a massive heart attack. It happened so suddenly that I didn't have a chance to do anything for her. Some time later, I received an envelope with a copy of a restaurant receipt from the same place mother and I had dined. An attached note said: I paid this bill in advance. I was almost sure that I couldn't be there but, never-the-less, I paid for two plates - one for you and the other for you wife. You will never know what that night meant for me. I love you. At that moment I understood the importance of saying, in time: I LOVE YOU and to give our loved ones the time that they deserve. Nothing in life is more important than your family. Give them the time they
[JOYnet] prayer
Dear Jy's Please pray for my wife who will be undergoing a surgery on Saturday the 7Th @ 6.00 am Thanking You all, With prayerful wishes, Greg This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join To get a standard help message on the list services send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] Thank You
Dear Jy's, Finally the biopsy report of my wife has come. Doctor has explained to me as follows. He says that there are three stages. 1) Normal stage 2) Abnormal stage 3) Cancer stage. From the second stage it seems 10 % people do recover and go back to the Normal stage. Remaining 90% it seems proceed towards the Cancer stage. My wife happens to be in the second stage and the doctor will be observing her for the next two months to see where the developments lead to. Once again I request all of you to pray that my wife may recover unto the Will of our Lord and for HIS Glory Amen. I also thank you all for your prayers and also for writing to me.I express my inability to thank each of you individually. May our Lord bless you all. With prayerful wishes, Greg This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join To get a standard help message on the list services send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] Fwd: The Third Secret of Fatima
--- paul navel remigio fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: paul navel remigio fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: The Third Secret of Fatima Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:29:39 + From: john vendokaran [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: The Third Secret of Fatima Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 19:04:01 +0530 From: TECHNICAL LIBRARY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Savio D Souza (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED],Anthony De Souza (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED], Claudette D'Souza (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED], Cynthiareis (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED],G_Misquita (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED],Johnvin_Tren (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED],Philip F. D'Souza (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The Third Secret of Fatima Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 13:51:32 +0300 Subject: FW: [Fwd: Third Secret of Fatima] LUCIA REVEALS THE THIRD SECRET OF FATIMA Independently of any Creed or Religion, is better to be prepared and be in good terms with GOD, though we never know when we will be leaving this world... THE LAST SECRET OF FATIMA The church has given permission to reveal to the people the last part of the message. The Blessed Virgin appeared to three children in Fatima, Portugal in 1917. This is a proven fact. One of these children is still alive, her name is Lucia, and she is a recluse nun and lives in a European monastery. Lucia disclosed the message for the first time to Pope Pio XXII whom, after reading it sealed and stored it away without making it public. Later John XXIII read it and in the same manner as his predecessor, kept it out of public eye because he knew that once revealed, it will bring desperation and panic to human kind. Now the time has come and permission has been granted from Pope John Paul II to reveal it to the children of God in order not to create panic but to make people aware of this important message so everybody can be prepared. The Virgin told Lucia: Go my child and tell the world what will come to pass during the years 1950 - 2001. Men are not practicing the Commandments that our father has given us. Evil is governing the world and is harvesting hate and resentment all over. Men will fabricate mortal weapons that will destroy the world in minutes and half of the human race will be destroyed. The war will begin against Rome and there will be conflicts amongst religious orders. God will allow all natural phenomenon like smoke, hale, cold, water, fire, flood, earthquakes winds and inclement weather will slowly batter the planet. These things will come to pass in the year 2002. Thos who does not believe, this is the time. Your beloved mother tells you - those lacking charity towards others and those who do not love thy neighbor like my beloved Son has loved you all cannot survive. They will wish to have died. Millions are imaginable, they will come and there is no doubt. Our Lord God will punish severely those who do not believe in him, those who despite him and those who did not have time for him. I call upon all of you to come to my son Jesus Christ. God helps the world but all of those who do not show fidelity and loyalty will be destroyed. Father Agustin who lives in Fatima said that Pope Paul VI gave him permission to visit Sister Lucia who is a recluse nun (she does not leave the monastery nor is allowed to receive any visitors). Father Agustin
[JOYnet] SATURDAY OF ORDINARY TIME WEEK 17
The Lord spoke to Moses(saying) Set the fiftieth year apart and proclaim freedom to all During this year anyone who has been sold as slave shall return to his family The whole year shall be sacred to you. The fifieth year was called the 'jubilee year' The word jubilee comes from the Hebrew word Jubel, the horn that was blown to announce the start of the year, With the start of the year all debts were cancelled, Jesus used the idea of the 'jubilee year' to teach people of the 'messianic age' which began with His coming(Luke 4.18) His coming meant that the spiritual debts of all people were cancelled, and that all people were freed from the slavery of Satan and sin. What am I doing with my new freedom ? The fall of the first Adam was the end of the beginning. The rise of the second Adam[Jesus] was the beginning of the end. - S.W.DUFFIELD Want to sell your car? advertise on Yahoo Autos Classifieds. It's Free!! visit http://in.autos.yahoo.com This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOYnet] NANDITAS QUESTION
greg dsilva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Nandita, From my end I will definately say that it is not whether the Church should change with the changing times,but The Church is changing with the changing times. There are so many things which can be observed as compared to the past. 1)As a child I remember the priest offering mass by facing the main alter.Today he faces the people. 2)The Holy Eucharist was celebrated in latin only.Today the church has changed its attitude towards this and so we find that if you go to gujarat the mass is celebrated in Gujarati.In Goa it is in Konkani and so on. 3)In the past on Good Friday people mostly would dressup in black.Today the church is emphasizing that it is not a day to be sad but instead to be happy because it is due to good friday that the doors of Heaven were opened and Easter Sunday followed. 4)Alowing Lay people to distribute Holy Communion. Earlier only consecrated hands were supposed to touch the Tebernacle. 5)Fulfilling the obligation i.e. Sunday Mass. Today the church allows you to go for Mass on Saturdays to fulfill your Sunday obligation. 6)Today even if you attend a funeral mass on Sunday,or a mass celebrated for christening,you need not go for a special or routine mass held as per church timings on that Sunday. 7)In Goa most of the churches have the Passion of Christ celebrated during Lent with the statue of Christ posing in different forms thus giving us a deeper meaning and understanding of the sufferings undergone by christ for our sake.But today the new churches built in Goa and are doing away with this system,all because the church has decided to change with the present times. 8)Having death anniversary masses and blessing of the graves is now restricted to the first year only.So much so that the church discourages to offer masses for the dead with the title like third death anniversary or say fifth death anniversary and so on,but instead the church says this mass is offered for the soul of so and so. 9)Distributing Holy communion on the palm rather than the tongue is a vital change. 10)Priests are given the facility to move around like civilians with pants,shirts and t-shirts.(The choice being totally of the priest)as compared to the past when we always found them with cassocks. 11)Nuns are also given the facilty to change to sarees and skirt-blouses. 12)Earlier if a nun had to leave her congregation she had to wait after intimation of her desire,till it was confirmed by the Pope.Today she can just intimate and leave.No need to wait. So Nandita,I think I have expressed quite a bit and to cut short I would like to say BYE,but before that I would like to tell you that a Cynod has taken place in Goa last month almost after 50 years.One of the aspects of the Cynod was to discuss the various changes required by the Church for the benefit of laity. WITH THIS I WISH YOU ALL THE VERY BEST FOR THE DEBATE. WITH LOVE AND PRAYERFUL WISHES, GREG Yahoo! Movies - Vote for your nominees in our online Oscars pool. --0-1929177837-1015846335=:31979-- - Yahoo! Movies- Vote for your nominees in our online Oscars pool. This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Download Yahoo! Messenger, with Webcam facility This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOYnet] Fwd: failure delivery
Dear Nandita, From my end I will definately say that it is not whether the Church should change with the changing times,but The Church is changing with the changing times. There are so many things which can be observed as compared to the past. 1)As a child I remember the priest offering mass by facing the main alter.Today he faces the people. 2)The Holy Eucharist was celebrated in latin only.Today the church has changed its attitude towards this and so we find that if you go to gujarat the mass is celebrated in Gujarati.In Goa it is in Konkani and so on. 3)In the past on Good Friday people mostly would dressup in black.Today the church is emphasizing that it is not a day to be sad but instead to be happy because it is due to good friday that the doors of Heaven were opened and Easter Sunday followed. 4)Alowing Lay people to distribute Holy Communion. Earlier only consecrated hands were supposed to touch the Tebernacle. 5)Fulfilling the obligation i.e. Sunday Mass. Today the church allows you to go for Mass on Saturdays to fulfill your Sunday obligation. 6)Today even if you attend a funeral mass on Sunday,or a mass celebrated for christening,you need not go for a special or routine mass held as per church timings on that Sunday. 7)In Goa most of the churches have the Passion of Christ celebrated during Lent with the statue of Christ posing in different forms thus giving us a deeper meaning and understanding of the sufferings undergone by christ for our sake.But today the new churches built in Goa and are doing away with this system,all because the church has decided to change with the present times. 8)Having death anniversary masses and blessing of the graves is now restricted to the first year only.So much so that the church discourages to offer masses for the dead with the title like third death anniversary or say fifth death anniversary and so on,but instead the church says this mass is offered for the soul of so and so. 9)Distributing Holy communion on the palm rather than the tongue is a vital change. 10)Priests are given the facility to move around like civilians with pants,shirts and t-shirts.(The choice being totally of the priest)as compared to the past when we always found them with cassocks. 11)Nuns are also given the facilty to change to sarees and skirt-blouses. 12)Earlier if a nun had to leave her congregation she had to wait after intimation of her desire,till it was confirmed by the Pope.Today she can just intimate and leave.No need to wait. So Nandita,I think I have expressed quite a bit and to cut short I would like to say BYE,but before that I would like to tell you that a Cynod has taken place in Goa last month almost after 50 years.One of the aspects of the Cynod was to discuss the various changes required by the Church for the benefit of laity. WITH THIS I WISH YOU ALL THE VERY BEST FOR THE DEBATE. WITH LOVE AND PRAYERFUL WISHES, GREG --- nandita carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Friends, I am writing to you after a very long break.This time it is with a favour.I am going for a debate to Auckland University and my moot is...'Should the Church change with the changing times'And I am affirming.I was wondering if any of you have material from all our previous debates that we have had ,on Joynet.Or if not, it would also appreciate fresh commentsany ideas for this topic... Looking forward to hearing from you, Love in Jesus, Nandita Carvalho, New Zealand. - - Yahoo! Movies - Vote for your nominees in our online Oscars pool. --0-1929177837-1015846335=:31979-- - Yahoo! Movies- Vote for your nominees in our online Oscars pool. This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOYnet] WHAT ACCORDING TO YOU IS INTIMACY WITH CHRIST ? ? ?
Dear Jason, Yesterday Mr.Joseph wrote in ODB dt.11/03/02 about a violinist who was playing before an audience when one string broke.As he continued playing two more strings snapped and he was left with only one string left to complete his presentation.He did complete it with that one string left on his violin. So also when Paul and Silas were imprisoned,instead of being sad and meditating over their situation they sang praises and prayed to the Lord.In the bargain the jailer and his entire household were converted and baptised. In PARABLENET to we find Irma giving an instance of Suffering for the Salvation of Others.Here a man was beaten by his friend(a captian)for his catholic faith which made the girlfriend of the captian to stay away from the captian.But this man rushes whole heartedly to help his friend(captian)when he is beaten and fallen on the ground.The captian is moved beyond understanding to realise how this friend of his could help him when he himself had harmed him so much.The result was that the captian accepted Christ. With the above I would like to sum up saying that to love God and to show this practically amongst your fellowmen,by forgetting yourself as the first priority is INTIMACY WITH CHRIST. I HOPE there is some light thrown on the subject you mentioned. with love and prayerful wishes, GREG --- JASON:) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear JYs In recent mails I have got a lot of sharing (some from JY) about what is intimacy with Christ and how to be intimate with Christ. With all those sharing I realised one thing. Just as you can get mushy with your beloved you can also get mushy with Christ. And that is one of the special highlights of sharing an intimacy with Christ. Psalm 63 gives us exactly an example of such Intimacy: :1 O God, You are My God and I long for you :2 My Soul is thirsty for you. :3 Your Constant love is better than life. :6 As I lie in Bed, I remember you. All night long I think of you. :7 Because you have always been my help :8 I cling to you and your hands keep me safe. Hence on this subject can you guys (maybe on your personal experience with Christ) tell me, WHAT ACCORDING TO YOU IS INTIMACY WITH CHRIST. urs in faith Jason No matter how big our need is, It is small compared to God's ability to take care of it. This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] Re:Re:(JOYNET)WOMAN'S DAY
Dear Jason, Thanks for your message,its interesting.With this I am sharing two thoughts that have come to my mind. 1)When is MAN'S day celebrated? We also should give women a chance to wish us for the difference we have made in their lives. 2)IT IS SAID(I do not know for sure)but it is said,that when God created man He rested for a while.After that He created woman and since then till today neither has God rested nor is man resting. THANKS TO THE WOMAN'S ERA THAT has KEPT AND IS STILL KEEPING GOD AND MAN CONSTANTLY BUSY. BYE, WITH LOVE, GREG This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] REQUESTING A PRAYER FOR GUJARAT
Dear JYs, I request all of you to pray that the riots in gujarat stops,as the result of riots is not at all positive. So many people will lose their lives and many be put to hardships for no fault of theirs.I have faced many such riots in Ahmedabad and hence the request. Thanking You, With Love and prayerful wishes, GREG This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] reply TO SHIJA DANIEL
DEAR SHIJA, Nice to receive your e-mail and this is what I have to say.In your e-mail you have stated that you were going to the catholic church previously.This is one point by itself.First try to find out how you landed in the catholic church.Is it by chance or by birth?And also for how long?That should display the number of years you have been going to the Catholic church.It also means that going to a catholic church was based on some faith,in which you were beleiving.So analyse that part also for yourself.The Catholic Church beleives in Mary and till the time you left the catholic church you were beleiving and praying to Mary and Jesus.So once again you know why you were doing so. Now you want to know WHY we should pray through Mary.The answer lies within you.The fact that you were going to the catholic church and praying to Mother Mary in itself is a self explanatory answer to the question you are facing today. please do free to reciprocate, with love and prayerful wishes, GREG This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOYnet] Alternate explanation for Mark 6:3
DEAR PATHROSE, Your alternate explanation requires a clarification with reference from the Bible,or a belief which is accepted and preached by the Church.This topic is purely related to faith and can lead a person to alter his faith. With love and prayers, GREG --- pathrose alphus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 6:3 Isnt this the carpenter, the son5 of Mary6 and brother of James, Joses, Judas, and Simon? And arent his sisters here with us? And they took offense at him. Friends, This verse is subject to much debate among biblical scholars and lay people alike. Besides the explanation offered by Joynetters on the doubt raised by Jannet, there is an alternate explanation, which is based on the tradition of some Eastern Churches. St.Joseph, foster father of our Lord, and his legal father, was a widower when he became engaged to the Blessed Virgin. The brothers and sisters mentioned in the scipture are his children by the previous marriage. St. Joseph led a celebate life after the death of his first spouse. This explanation, I think, is easier than the cousin theory. Jesus was considered as the son of St. Joseph during His ministry. He was acclaimed as the Son of David, because of his legal status as the son of St. Joseph. So the other children of St.Joseph will naturally be called His siblings. I am not very sure about the official position of the Church on this topic. Thomas Acchan and other ordained members of the Joynet may clarify on this. But I think that since no dogmatic statement Ex-Cathedra is there on this topic, a Catholic is free to take recourse in the alternate explanation offered. Love Alphus Pathrose, Kochi, India Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] SOMETHING TO DECIDE UPON
Hi Joynetters, Pl.ponder on this. They lie on the table side by side, The Holy Bible and the TV guide. One is well worn and cherished with pride, Not the Bible...but the TV guide. One is used daily to help folks decide, No, not the Bible...but the TV guide. As the pages are turned, what shall they see, Oh, what does it matter, turn on the TV. Then confusion reigns, they can't all agree, On what they should watch on the old TV. So they open the book in which they confide, No, not the Bible...but the TV guide. The word of God is seldom read, Maybe a verse as they fall into bed. Exhausted and sleepy and tired as can be, Not from reading the Bible...from watching TV. So then back to the table side by side, Lie the Holy Bible and the TV guide. No time for prayer, no time for the Word, The plan of Salvation is seldom heard. But forgiveness of sin, so full and free, Is found in the Bible...not on TV. Author Unknown This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] DOUBTS-IDOL WORSHIP
Dear Lukose, Nice to have your questionaire.The little that I know I would like to share with you. In Ahmedabad there is a school by the name St. Francis Xavier's High School,was built by the Jesuits who came from Spain.The land was donated by a non catholic.At the entrance of the building is a BUST of the gentleman who donated this land. Further more in the same school they have something called 'THE ROLL OF HONOUR'.This is because some students of the school bring name and fame to the school in public,be it in board exams or in sports at the all schools level,or at the state level etc.In this case the snaps of these students appear in the annual magazine. So also in the churches we find statues of saints. According to me the saints are honoured for their heroic deeds done in a humble manner and for sure are accepted by the church (after a lot of scrutiny) to have entered thr kingdom of heaven. As the saints are given this honour in public,their statues are kept for us as a model to follow their path,so that we attain what they have acheived. This is my contribution towards your question.Please let me know if there is something more fruitful. With love and prayerful wishes, GREG This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOYnet] DOUBTS- IDOL WORSHIP
Dear Lukose, Nice to have your questionaire.The little that I know I would like to share with you. In Ahmedabad there is a school by the name St. Francis Xavier's High School,was built by the Jesuits who came from Spain.The land was donated by a non catholic.At the entrance of the building is a BUST of the gentleman who donated this land. Further more in the same school they have something called 'THE ROLL OF HONOUR'.This is because some students of the school bring name and fame to the school in public,be it in board exams or in sports at the all schools level,or at the state level etc.In this case the snaps of these students appear in the annual magazine. So also in the churches we find statues of saints. According to me the saints are honoured for their heroic deeds done in a humble manner and for sure are accepted by the church (after a lot of scrutiny) to have entered thr kingdom of heaven. As the saints are given this honour in public,their statues are kept for us as a model to follow their path,so that we attain what they have acheived. With love and prayerful wishes, GREG --- Lukose James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Joy netters, I HAVE GOT A QUESTION.CAN ANY ONE HELP ME. IS THERE ANY JUSTIFICATION FOR PLACING STATUES IN CHURCHES? WHAT IS THEIR RELEVANCE WITH RESPECT TO OUR SPIRITUAL LIFE? Of course I agree that catholic teaching does not allow us to worship these statues. But the sad truth is that the majority of the Catholics believe that these statues have some power by themselves. The authorities themselves promote this kind of worship in some churches well known for the miracles performed there. I am not giving examples. I know that you can be an idol worshipper at heart without worshipping a statue. Any thing that is given more importance than the almighty God becomes an idol. So no one can say that they are not idol worshippers, including the Protestants, even though they claim so. And also if our attitude towards these statues is right, there is nothing wrong about praying before them. But unfortunately this is not the case with the majority. According to some, all we have to do is to make these people aware that God himself is the only one worthy to be worshipped and nothing or no one has power of its or his own unless given by God himself. NOW MY QUESTION IS- WHY PLACE STATUES IN THE CHURCHES (CAUSING MANY TO FALL) AND LATER TEACH PEOPLE HOW THEIR ATTITUDE TOWARDS THEM SHOULD BE? THE PRESCENCE OF STATUES MAYNOT BE HARMLESS BY ITSELF. WHY NOT AVOID THIS HARMLESS THING, WHICH CAUSES MANY TO FALL? OR ARE THEY BY ANY WAY NECESSERY FOR OUR SPIRITUAL LIFE? ROMANS 14:13 YOU SHOULD DECIDE NEVER TO DO ANY THING THAT WOULD MAKE YOUR BROTHER STUMBLE OR FALL INTO SIN. ROMANS 14:20,21 ALL FOODS MAY BE EATEN, BUT IT IS WRONG TO EAT ANYTHING THAT WILL CAUSE SOMENE ELSE TO FALL INTO SIN. THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS TO KEEP FROM EATING MEAT, DRINKING WINE, OR DOING ANYTHING ELSE THAT WILL MAKE YOUR BROTHER FALL. IF THE CASE IS SO WITH FOOD, WHAT ABOUT OTHER ONES? WHAT JUSTIFICATION IS THERE FOR US FOR PERFORMING SOME RITUALS VERY MUCH SIMILAR TO THOSE PERFOMED IN HINDU TEMPLES? WE ALL KNOW THAT IF WE WORSHIP ANY LIVING OR NONLIVING THING IT ACQUIRES POWER. IT IS SATAN WHO GIVES THIS POWER. IF PEOPLE VISITING THE SO CALLED PILGRIMAGE CENTRES (THOSE WHO CONSIDER JESUS AS ONLY ONE AMONG THE GODS) RECEIVE MIRACLES, THEN CAN WE SAY THAT THESE MIRACLES ARE FROM GOD? IF THOSE WHO BELIEVE THAT THE STATUES HAVE A POWER OF THEIR OWN RECEIVE MIRACLES, THEN CAN WE SAY THAT THEY ARE FROM GOD? IF THEIR VISITING THESE CHURCHES DOES NOT MAKE THEM ACCEPT JESUS AS THE LORD AND SAVIOUR, AS THE ONLY WAY, DESPITE THE MIRACLES, CAN WE SAY THAT THESE MIRACLES ARE FROM GOD? I AM NOT CRITICIZING ANY ONE. I WAS JUST SHAIRING MY VIEWS.THEY MAY BE RIGHT OR WRONG. I COUNT ON ALL OF YOU TO CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG. A FELLOW BELIEVER TOLD ME THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAD A VERY GOOD REASON BEHIND PLACING STATUES IN THE CHURCHES. CAN ANY ONE HEIP ME ON THIS SUBJECT? LOVE TO ALL Lukose. This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] This mail is generated from
REENY-Re: [JOYnet] Urgent:prayer to saints
HELLO REENY, NICE MEETING YOU OVER THIS MAIL. ANSWERING YOUR DOUBT. SAINTS ARE NOT GOD,BUT THEY ARE A MODEL FOR THE LIVING CHRISTIANS TO FOLLOW THEIR FOOTSTEPS TO ATTAIN SALVATION. WHY DO WE PRAY TO SAINTS? IT IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALREADY ENTERED ETERNAL LIFE AFTER FULFILLING THEIR MISSION ON EARTH AND BEING TOTALLY IN THE COMPANY OF GOD,THEY PLEAD ON OUR BEHALF TO OUR SAVIOUR TO SAVE US. TAKE AN EXAMPLE OF YOUR OFFICE.IN CASE YOU WANT LEAVE AND YOU KNOW THAT THE SITUATION IS SUCH THAT YOUR LEAVE APPLICATION WILL BE REJECTED,THEN YOU DEFINATELY APPROACH SOMEONE WHO IS CLOSE TO YOUR BOSS AND YOU REQUEST THIS PERSON TO OBTAIN LEAVE FOR YOU.AND THEN SAY YOUR LEAVE IS GRANTED SO THE PERSON WHO HAS REQUESTED FOR YOUR LEAVE ON YOUR BEHALF IS LIKE THE SAINT IN HEAVEN.THE SAME THING HAPPENS WHEN WE PRAY TO THE SAINTS. YOU CAN ALSO TELL YOUR FRIEND THAT WE PRAY TO THE SAINTS BUT WE DO NOT ADORE THEM SO THE QUESTION OF BREAKING ANY COMMANDMENT DOES NOT ARISE. THERE IS ALSO A CUSTOM WHERIN WHEN A CHILD IS BORN THE PARENTS REFER TO THE CHURCH CALENDER ON WHICH YOU CAN FIND THE SAINT OR SAINTS WHOSE FEAST IS CELEBRATED. AND SOME PARENTS DO CHOOSE THIS NAME FOR THEIR CHILD,AS THEY FIRMLY WANT THEIR CHILD TO BE LIKE THAT SAINT.ALSO THIS SAINT NOW BECOMES THE PATRON SAINT OF THE CHILD. REGARDING PRAYING TO THE DEAD.I CAN TELL YOU THAT YOU CAN PRAY TO THE DEAD THAT IS YOUR NEAR AND DEAR ONES. I KNOW OF A PRIEST WHO TOLD US IN HIS SERMON THAT WHENEVER HE IS IN NEED OF HELP,HE FIRST PRAYS TO HIS MOTHER WHO IS DEAD SINCE LONG. HOPE THIS WILL SERVE YOU TO SOME EXTENT. LOVE AND PRAYERFUL WISHES, GREG --- reeny mathew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello all.. Praise God!!! I have a question which needs answr immediately...we all know there is always a doubt for the protestants regarding why we seek help of saints when it is said in scriptures that we have only one mediator...here in our firm there is an arguement rregarding thisthis is a question forwarded by one of them: One simple doubt.. Why cant we find any example in Bible where someone request prayer to someone who is physicaly dead??. also So are you accepting that you are indeed praying to the saints??... This is exactly the problem. Who is worthy to be prayed??.. Since one and only one, God, is worthy to be prayed, if we pray to some one else, we are unknowing making them our God, unknowingly breaking the most important commandment. IS THERE ANY SCRIPTURE REGARDING THIS... regards Reeny,Cochin _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: REENY-Re: [JOYnet] Urgent:prayer to saints
It is better if you contact any priest from your parish,because they are well versed with the Bible. I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA. GREG --- reeny mathew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can i know Is there anywhere mentioned in the Bible regarding this praying to those who r physically dead? reeny,Cochin From: greg dsilva [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: REENY-Re: [JOYnet] Urgent:prayer to saints Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 04:13:37 + (GMT) HELLO REENY, NICE MEETING YOU OVER THIS MAIL. ANSWERING YOUR DOUBT. SAINTS ARE NOT GOD,BUT THEY ARE A MODEL FOR THE LIVING CHRISTIANS TO FOLLOW THEIR FOOTSTEPS TO ATTAIN SALVATION. WHY DO WE PRAY TO SAINTS? IT IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALREADY ENTERED ETERNAL LIFE AFTER FULFILLING THEIR MISSION ON EARTH AND BEING TOTALLY IN THE COMPANY OF GOD,THEY PLEAD ON OUR BEHALF TO OUR SAVIOUR TO SAVE US. TAKE AN EXAMPLE OF YOUR OFFICE.IN CASE YOU WANT LEAVE AND YOU KNOW THAT THE SITUATION IS SUCH THAT YOUR LEAVE APPLICATION WILL BE REJECTED,THEN YOU DEFINATELY APPROACH SOMEONE WHO IS CLOSE TO YOUR BOSS AND YOU REQUEST THIS PERSON TO OBTAIN LEAVE FOR YOU.AND THEN SAY YOUR LEAVE IS GRANTED SO THE PERSON WHO HAS REQUESTED FOR YOUR LEAVE ON YOUR BEHALF IS LIKE THE SAINT IN HEAVEN.THE SAME THING HAPPENS WHEN WE PRAY TO THE SAINTS. YOU CAN ALSO TELL YOUR FRIEND THAT WE PRAY TO THE SAINTS BUT WE DO NOT ADORE THEM SO THE QUESTION OF BREAKING ANY COMMANDMENT DOES NOT ARISE. THERE IS ALSO A CUSTOM WHERIN WHEN A CHILD IS BORN THE PARENTS REFER TO THE CHURCH CALENDER ON WHICH YOU CAN FIND THE SAINT OR SAINTS WHOSE FEAST IS CELEBRATED. AND SOME PARENTS DO CHOOSE THIS NAME FOR THEIR CHILD,AS THEY FIRMLY WANT THEIR CHILD TO BE LIKE THAT SAINT.ALSO THIS SAINT NOW BECOMES THE PATRON SAINT OF THE CHILD. REGARDING PRAYING TO THE DEAD.I CAN TELL YOU THAT YOU CAN PRAY TO THE DEAD THAT IS YOUR NEAR AND DEAR ONES. I KNOW OF A PRIEST WHO TOLD US IN HIS SERMON THAT WHENEVER HE IS IN NEED OF HELP,HE FIRST PRAYS TO HIS MOTHER WHO IS DEAD SINCE LONG. HOPE THIS WILL SERVE YOU TO SOME EXTENT. LOVE AND PRAYERFUL WISHES, GREG --- reeny mathew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello all.. Praise God!!! I have a question which needs answr immediately...we all know there is always a doubt for the protestants regarding why we seek help of saints when it is said in scriptures that we have only one mediator...here in our firm there is an arguement rregarding thisthis is a question forwarded by one of them: One simple doubt.. Why cant we find any example in Bible where someone request prayer to someone who is physicaly dead??. also So are you accepting that you are indeed praying to the saints??... This is exactly the problem. Who is worthy to be prayed??.. Since one and only one, God, is worthy to be prayed, if we pray to some one else, we are unknowing making them our God, unknowingly breaking the most important commandment. IS THERE ANY SCRIPTURE REGARDING THIS... regards Reeny,Cochin _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED
[JOYnet] Fwd: Fwd: Prayer Request
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