[jQuery] Zope3/JQuery Sprint
Hi all I'm a core developer of Zope3 and we organize a Zope3 Sprint in the Boston Area. One task whould be to integrate JQuery using JSON RPC. And intergrate JSON RPC support for JQuery which JQuery doesn't support right now. We also thinking about to build a Zope3 application server release which offers built in JQuery and JSON libraries ready to use for deveopers. You can see some early prototyping here: http://alpha.z3c.org Let me know if somebody is interested to join us at the sprint in Concord, MA, USA. The sprint starts Monday, September 24, 2007 at 9:00 am EST and lasts until Friday, September 28, 2007 in the afternoon. The goal of the sprint is to work on Zope 3 core packages or technologies closely related to it. The topics that we will be able to address will heavily depend on the participants. For more info about the Zope3 sprint: http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/FoliageSprint You can read more about Zope3 here: http://www.zope.org/ Just a general question to all of you; Is anybody using JQuery on top of Zope3 or another Python framework? If yes, we started uploading some JQuery plugin libraries to the PyPi: http://pypi.python.org/pypi?%3Aaction=searchterm=jquery Regards Roger Ineichen _ Projekt01 GmbH www.projekt01.ch Boesch 65 6331 Hünenberg phone +41 (0)41 781 01 78 mobile+41 (0)79 340 52 32 fax +41 (0)41 781 00 78 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ END OF MESSAGE
[jQuery] AW: [jQuery] Re: JSON MIME type?
Hi Stephan, Yehuda -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Stephan Beal Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. August 2007 17:47 An: jQuery (English) Betreff: [jQuery] Re: JSON MIME type? On Aug 23, 5:33 pm, Michael Randolph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using the jQuery Form plugin to call an ASP.NET 2.0 page. The call works just fine, but the response never comes back right. If the Response.ContentType is set to text/plain the page gets forwarded to a plain text JSON result. json is in fact plain text. It is only turned into an Object by passing that text to eval(). Once you get the response text, simply do: eval(responseText). Mime types are not only describing the content format which get sent, they describe more, e.g. the application which should get used. Web servers need this information for act as needed. We at Zope 3 implemented request factories using the Twisted server which get used if a relevant Mime type get sent from a client. This means JSON calls from the JQuery lib to a Zope 3 server will fail because of the bad JSON mime type set in JQuery. Is there a way to change the existing text/plain to the recommended application/json for JSON calls? Michael, Probably you can use the json client lib I've implemented for Zope3 supporting application/json. svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/jquery.javascript/trunk/src/jquery/javascript/ js Regards Roger Ineichen _ END OF MESSAGE
[jQuery] AW: [jQuery] Re: OT: A Big Idea
Hi Christof -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Christof Donat Gesendet: Montag, 30. Juli 2007 11:53 An: jquery-en@googlegroups.com Betreff: [jQuery] Re: OT: A Big Idea Hi, I wanted to comment your blogpost, but could not register. Anyway. http://commadot.com/?p=581 I would love your thoughts on it. I don't understand, why people think that this idea is so great, but i'm not 100% shure if I have really understood it. Do you whant to use a HTML rendering engine inside flash or do you whant to use a HTML rendering plugin? I case you whant to use a HTML renderer in flash. Why? You can use flash for any rendering stuff if you need exact virusal reproduction. What do you gain when you give HTML to the flash film? In case you'd like a HTML plugin. Why? People won't install it, because basically their browser does HTML rendering for them. And they don't care about standards, otherwise noone would ever have used Netscape 2 or Internet Explorer 6. I understand you whant a single rendering engine to make shure that your HTML/CSS code always looks the same. I don't. 1. The web has never been designed to give you exactly the same results everywhere. It has been designed to give the user the best possible access to the information independent from his eventual disabilities. Use the tool as it is and don't complain that your hammer is not a saw. I'm pretty sure the web in a couple years whould be the same but the tools will drasticly change. Take a look and see what's going on right now. 2. If you still need exact visual reproduction of something, there is always flash. You can not have accessability and exact visual reproduction at the same time as much as you never can exactly measure position and momentum at the same time. That's the idea behind it. They like to change this in the future. Isn't that a good idea? 3. We have had a browser engine to rule them all, IE, but noone ever liked it. You just change the dictator but stay in domination. Having multiple browser engines gives the users back their freedom of choice. For web developers an designers it sometimes is a pita, but in the whole it is better to have a pita for some and freedom or all. I guess the idea behind the concept is to get a way to use a specific rendering engine in different browsers. This means the software we speak about is a piece of midleware which runs in a browser of the users choice and is able to render the visited page with the engine the developer decides to use. This would make the develeopers choose the rendering engine and the user the browser. Isn't that freedom? btw, I think we could get in trouble in the near future if we just buy what others do. I think it's more then interesting to try to get a foot into the door and develop a middleware which makes it possibible to let us choose rendering engines etc. This yould make us much more independent from the browser companies and give us the prower we need. I don't telling everything will become better and there will be no rendering problems or bugs etc. But the idea is really interesting. Regards Roger Ineichen Christof
[jQuery] http://:/ issue?
Hi all I have on my server and see it on this page too: http://dev.iceburg.net/jquery/jqModal/ a problem. There is a call to http://:/ initialized from the JQuery library. Any idea what forces JQuery to do this call? Regards Roger Ineichen _ Projekt01 GmbH www.projekt01.ch _ END OF MESSAGE
[jQuery] AW: [jQuery] Re: http://:/ issue?
Hi Erik I see it on different pages. Here is one: http://alpha.z3c.org/ It happens with JQuery packed or full version, also with version 1.1.3.1. or 1.1.2 I have this issue only with IE7. Here's a traffic report. See no. 5 after jquery.pack.js: 110:36:42:421 0.234 s GET 200 7.06 K text/html http://alpha.z3c.org/ 210:36:42:656 0.172 s GET 200 10.70 K application/x-javascript http://alpha.z3c.org/@@/xmlhttp.js 310:36:42:843 0.109 s GET 200 6.89 K application/x-javascript http://alpha.z3c.org/@@/json.js 410:36:42:968 0.249 s GET 200 21.04 K application/x-javascript http://alpha.z3c.org/@@/jquery.pack.js 510:36:43:265 0.000 s GET 0 (None)http://:/ 610:36:43:265 0.078 s GET 200 2.60 K application/x-javascript http://alpha.z3c.org/@@/jsonform.validate.js 710:36:43:343 0.171 s GET 200 13.13 K application/x-javascript http://alpha.z3c.org/@@/interface.js 810:36:43:531 0.061 s GET 200 3.38 K application/x-javascript http://alpha.z3c.org/@@/jquery.livesearch.js 910:36:43:609 0.124 s GET 200 7.01 K application/x-javascript http://alpha.z3c.org/@@/jquery.corner.js 10 10:36:43:765 0.046 s GET 200 1.64 K application/x-javascript http://alpha.z3c.org/@@/demo.js 11 10:36:43:828 0.139 s GET 200 6.33 K application/x-javascript http://alpha.z3c.org/@@/jquery.resteditor.js 12 10:36:43:968 0.063 s GET 200 1.70 K text/css http://alpha.z3c.org/ ... more images Regards Roger Ineichen -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Erik Beeson Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. Juli 2007 09:50 An: jquery-en@googlegroups.com Betreff: [jQuery] Re: http://:/ issue? When do you see such a thing happening? I'm using firebug to watch all network traffic and I don't see that request, nor do I see any javascript errors that would indicate something isn't right... --Erik On 7/11/07, Roger Ineichen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I have on my server and see it on this page too: http://dev.iceburg.net/jquery/jqModal/ a problem. There is a call to http://:/ initialized from the JQuery library. Any idea what forces JQuery to do this call? Regards Roger Ineichen _ Projekt01 GmbH www.projekt01.ch _ END OF MESSAGE
[jQuery] AW: [jQuery] Re: AW: [jQuery] Re: http://:/ issue?
Hi Mike Betreff: [jQuery] Re: AW: [jQuery] Re: http://:/ issue? I don't see it happening here. This is the URL list I got using IE7 and Fiddler2: [...] No funny /:/ in the list. Not sure what that is about or why you're seeing it. What tool are you using to watch the traffic? I'm using HTTP Analyzer from: http://www.ieinspector.com/ The IE 7 really tries to call http://:/ and this ends in not finish loading the page. It's not only a traffic tool issue. I also removed any other JS and CSS and it still happens with only jquery.js and no other css or javascript. It's really bad because the thickbox page shows up without any layout if this happens. I also have to say, that I've the multi version IE installed next to the IE 7. But the IE 7 installation is the original one. But I don't think that has to do with the issue. Regards Roger Ineichen _ END OF MESSAGE -Mike From: Roger Ineichen I see it on different pages. Here is one: http://alpha.z3c.org/ It happens with JQuery packed or full version, also with version 1.1.3.1. or 1.1.2 I have this issue only with IE7. Here's a traffic report. See no. 5 after jquery.pack.js: 110:36:42:421 0.234 s GET 200 7.06 K text/html http://alpha.z3c.org/ 210:36:42:656 0.172 s GET 200 10.70 K application/x-javascript http://alpha.z3c.org/@@/xmlhttp.js 310:36:42:843 0.109 s GET 200 6.89 K application/x-javascript http://alpha.z3c.org/@@/json.js 410:36:42:968 0.249 s GET 200 21.04 K application/x-javascript http://alpha.z3c.org/@@/jquery.pack.js 510:36:43:265 0.000 s GET 0 (None)http://:/ 610:36:43:265 0.078 s GET 200 2.60 K application/x-javascript http://alpha.z3c.org/@@/jsonform.validate.js ...
[jQuery] different name and id issue?
Hi all
We at the Zope3 dev mailinglist have a question to
you genious JQuery developers. We run into a IE 67 issue
related to DOM element id and name.
The following two onclick handler return both
Bar as value in IE 6 and 7. Does anybody know why?
html
headtitletest/title/head
body
form
input type=submit name=foo id=bar value=Bar /
input type=submit name=baz id=foo value=Foo /
/form
span onclick=javascript:alert(document.getElementById('bar').value)bar
(ok)/span
span onclick=javascript:alert(document.getElementById('foo').value)foo
(problem on IE 6 7)/span
/body
/html
What rule whould you recommend for generate
id and name attributes for a framework which
generates input fields, buttons etc.
In the new form framework we are developing right now,
do we generate element id and name values like:
id=form-widgets-lastname name=form.widgets.lastname
Is this acceptable or is there any reason using another
naming convention for element ids and names?
Thanks for any hint.
Regards
Roger Ineichen
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[jQuery] AW: [jQuery] Re: different name and id issue?
Hi Klaus Betreff: [jQuery] Re: different name and id issue? [...] This is a known IE bug. Id and the name attribute share the same namespace in IE giving you the (unexpected) result you're talking of (getElementById gives you the first occurence of an element with the given id or name). I wonder what the developers were thinking... jQuery has fixed this by the way when using an id selector. I didn't except anything else ;-) [...] id=form-widgets-lastname name=form.widgets.lastname Is this acceptable or is there any reason using another naming convention for element ids and names? I haven't seen periods in name attributes yet, but they are allowed per HTML spec. Another option would be to use the underscore: id=form-widgets-lastname name=form_widgets_lastname What is more important is to avoid that a name attribute matches an id, which both variants do provide. That's good to know. Thanks a lot Klaus Regards Roger Ineichen _ END OF MESSAGE
[jQuery] Re: EXTjs.com
Subject: [jQuery] EXTjs.com http://extjs.com Just launched. fyi. Wow, very interesting work. Hmm, it's not valid CSS, HTML and does not fit if you need to support WAI or 508 standards. Does anybody know if Ext will support accessibility in the future? JQuery and Ext could be a dream team if so. But anyway it's one of the coolest widget package. Regards Roger Ineichen _ Projekt01 GmbH
