[jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I)
Thanks for all guys! @Alexandre nice link thanks for sharing On Dec 17, 4:00 pm, ".net junkie" wrote: > i i like you tutorial very much its a gr8 effort. keep it up. hope to > see more soon :)
[jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I)
i i like you tutorial very much its a gr8 effort. keep it up. hope to see more soon :)
[jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I)
Yes, interesting... And while I could agree with Jeff's assertion that web apps shouldn't necessarily mimic desktop apps too closely, causing confused expectations based on prior experience, the interface through which we access those web apps might do well to bring some familiarity from the desktop so as to not dilute the user's comfort and confidence by being completely foreign. > -Original Message- > From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:jquery...@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Alexandre Plennevaux > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 10:53 AM > To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I) > > > As a matter of fact, just had a good read exactly on this topic at the > ever excellent Coding Horror blog: > http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000869.html > > On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Rick Faircloth > wrote: > > > > Yes, keep up the good work. I don't of anyone whose coding can't be > > improved! > > We're all continuously learning. > > > > An "OS Interface" such as you're creating might be just the type of > > interface > > that could bridge the gap between typical desktop OS users and the new > > "Cloud" crowd. A familiar face on something new. > > > > Rick > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:jquery...@googlegroups.com] On > >> Behalf Of Alexandre > Plennevaux > >> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 10:18 AM > >> To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com > >> Subject: [jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I) > >> > >> > >> ... and we will continue to read and comment on them, Adrian! Thanks a > >> lot for sharing ! > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:09 PM, AdrianMG wrote: > >> > > >> > One more thing! Thanks you for your opinions I will try to improve my > >> > english and tutorials to give more info and better explanations to the > >> > readers. > >> > > >> > Bye! > >> > > >> > On Dec 17, 4:01 pm, AdrianMG wrote: > >> >> Hi guys, I don't understand some replies... I just want to say that > >> >> the mistakes in english are because I am not good enough in english as > >> >> I would like to be, not for writting tutorials fast or similar. > >> >> > >> >> And as I said in the tutorial, it's only the first part of a serie > >> >> focused on creating a os web interface, just that hehe. > >> >> > >> >> On Dec 16, 11:57 pm, "Rick Faircloth" > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > D'oh! :o) > >> >> > >> >> > > -Original Message- > >> >> > > From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com > >> >> > > [mailto:jquery...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael > Geary > >> >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 5:39 PM > >> >> > > To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com > >> >> > > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part > >> >> > > I) > >> >> > >> >> > > Never mind, you beat me to it! > >> >> > >> >> > > > From: Michael Geary > >> >> > >> >> > > > Excellent point, Rick. > >> >> > >> >> > > > But I think there may be a little typo that changed the > >> >> > > > meaning to something other than what you intended? :-) > >> >> > >> >> > > > > From: Rick Faircloth > >> >> > >> >> > > > > No faster way to kill someone's enthusiasm than to simply tear > >> >> > > > > something down without any encouragement. > >> >> > >> >> > > > > It's like I tell my kids... you can't applaud the effort if not > >> >> > > > > the > >> >> > > > > performance. And, if asked, give encouraging criticism. > > > >
[jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I)
As a matter of fact, just had a good read exactly on this topic at the ever excellent Coding Horror blog: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000869.html On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote: > > Yes, keep up the good work. I don't of anyone whose coding can't be improved! > We're all continuously learning. > > An "OS Interface" such as you're creating might be just the type of interface > that could bridge the gap between typical desktop OS users and the new > "Cloud" crowd. A familiar face on something new. > > Rick > >> -Original Message- >> From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:jquery...@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Alexandre Plennevaux >> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 10:18 AM >> To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com >> Subject: [jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I) >> >> >> ... and we will continue to read and comment on them, Adrian! Thanks a >> lot for sharing ! >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:09 PM, AdrianMG wrote: >> > >> > One more thing! Thanks you for your opinions I will try to improve my >> > english and tutorials to give more info and better explanations to the >> > readers. >> > >> > Bye! >> > >> > On Dec 17, 4:01 pm, AdrianMG wrote: >> >> Hi guys, I don't understand some replies... I just want to say that >> >> the mistakes in english are because I am not good enough in english as >> >> I would like to be, not for writting tutorials fast or similar. >> >> >> >> And as I said in the tutorial, it's only the first part of a serie >> >> focused on creating a os web interface, just that hehe. >> >> >> >> On Dec 16, 11:57 pm, "Rick Faircloth" >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > D'oh! :o) >> >> >> >> > > -Original Message- >> >> > > From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:jquery...@googlegroups.com] >> >> > > On Behalf Of Michael Geary >> >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 5:39 PM >> >> > > To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com >> >> > > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I) >> >> >> >> > > Never mind, you beat me to it! >> >> >> >> > > > From: Michael Geary >> >> >> >> > > > Excellent point, Rick. >> >> >> >> > > > But I think there may be a little typo that changed the >> >> > > > meaning to something other than what you intended? :-) >> >> >> >> > > > > From: Rick Faircloth >> >> >> >> > > > > No faster way to kill someone's enthusiasm than to simply tear >> >> > > > > something down without any encouragement. >> >> >> >> > > > > It's like I tell my kids... you can't applaud the effort if not >> >> > > > > the >> >> > > > > performance. And, if asked, give encouraging criticism. > >
[jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I)
Yes, keep up the good work. I don't of anyone whose coding can't be improved! We're all continuously learning. An "OS Interface" such as you're creating might be just the type of interface that could bridge the gap between typical desktop OS users and the new "Cloud" crowd. A familiar face on something new. Rick > -Original Message- > From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:jquery...@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Alexandre Plennevaux > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 10:18 AM > To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I) > > > ... and we will continue to read and comment on them, Adrian! Thanks a > lot for sharing ! > > > On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:09 PM, AdrianMG wrote: > > > > One more thing! Thanks you for your opinions I will try to improve my > > english and tutorials to give more info and better explanations to the > > readers. > > > > Bye! > > > > On Dec 17, 4:01 pm, AdrianMG wrote: > >> Hi guys, I don't understand some replies... I just want to say that > >> the mistakes in english are because I am not good enough in english as > >> I would like to be, not for writting tutorials fast or similar. > >> > >> And as I said in the tutorial, it's only the first part of a serie > >> focused on creating a os web interface, just that hehe. > >> > >> On Dec 16, 11:57 pm, "Rick Faircloth" > >> wrote: > >> > >> > D'oh! :o) > >> > >> > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:jquery...@googlegroups.com] > >> > > On Behalf Of Michael Geary > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 5:39 PM > >> > > To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com > >> > > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I) > >> > >> > > Never mind, you beat me to it! > >> > >> > > > From: Michael Geary > >> > >> > > > Excellent point, Rick. > >> > >> > > > But I think there may be a little typo that changed the > >> > > > meaning to something other than what you intended? :-) > >> > >> > > > > From: Rick Faircloth > >> > >> > > > > No faster way to kill someone's enthusiasm than to simply tear > >> > > > > something down without any encouragement. > >> > >> > > > > It's like I tell my kids... you can't applaud the effort if not the > >> > > > > performance. And, if asked, give encouraging criticism.
[jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I)
... and we will continue to read and comment on them, Adrian! Thanks a lot for sharing ! On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:09 PM, AdrianMG wrote: > > One more thing! Thanks you for your opinions I will try to improve my > english and tutorials to give more info and better explanations to the > readers. > > Bye! > > On Dec 17, 4:01 pm, AdrianMG wrote: >> Hi guys, I don't understand some replies... I just want to say that >> the mistakes in english are because I am not good enough in english as >> I would like to be, not for writting tutorials fast or similar. >> >> And as I said in the tutorial, it's only the first part of a serie >> focused on creating a os web interface, just that hehe. >> >> On Dec 16, 11:57 pm, "Rick Faircloth" >> wrote: >> >> > D'oh! :o) >> >> > > -Original Message- >> > > From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:jquery...@googlegroups.com] On >> > > Behalf Of Michael Geary >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 5:39 PM >> > > To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com >> > > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I) >> >> > > Never mind, you beat me to it! >> >> > > > From: Michael Geary >> >> > > > Excellent point, Rick. >> >> > > > But I think there may be a little typo that changed the >> > > > meaning to something other than what you intended? :-) >> >> > > > > From: Rick Faircloth >> >> > > > > No faster way to kill someone's enthusiasm than to simply tear >> > > > > something down without any encouragement. >> >> > > > > It's like I tell my kids... you can't applaud the effort if not the >> > > > > performance. And, if asked, give encouraging criticism.
[jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I)
One more thing! Thanks you for your opinions I will try to improve my english and tutorials to give more info and better explanations to the readers. Bye! On Dec 17, 4:01 pm, AdrianMG wrote: > Hi guys, I don't understand some replies... I just want to say that > the mistakes in english are because I am not good enough in english as > I would like to be, not for writting tutorials fast or similar. > > And as I said in the tutorial, it's only the first part of a serie > focused on creating a os web interface, just that hehe. > > On Dec 16, 11:57 pm, "Rick Faircloth" > wrote: > > > D'oh! :o) > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:jquery...@googlegroups.com] On > > > Behalf Of Michael Geary > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 5:39 PM > > > To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com > > > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I) > > > > Never mind, you beat me to it! > > > > > From: Michael Geary > > > > > Excellent point, Rick. > > > > > But I think there may be a little typo that changed the > > > > meaning to something other than what you intended? :-) > > > > > > From: Rick Faircloth > > > > > > No faster way to kill someone's enthusiasm than to simply tear > > > > > something down without any encouragement. > > > > > > It's like I tell my kids... you can't applaud the effort if not the > > > > > performance. And, if asked, give encouraging criticism.
[jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I)
Hi guys, I don't understand some replies... I just want to say that the mistakes in english are because I am not good enough in english as I would like to be, not for writting tutorials fast or similar. And as I said in the tutorial, it's only the first part of a serie focused on creating a os web interface, just that hehe. On Dec 16, 11:57 pm, "Rick Faircloth" wrote: > D'oh! :o) > > > -Original Message- > > From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:jquery...@googlegroups.com] On > > Behalf Of Michael Geary > > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 5:39 PM > > To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com > > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I) > > > Never mind, you beat me to it! > > > > From: Michael Geary > > > > Excellent point, Rick. > > > > But I think there may be a little typo that changed the > > > meaning to something other than what you intended? :-) > > > > > From: Rick Faircloth > > > > > No faster way to kill someone's enthusiasm than to simply tear > > > > something down without any encouragement. > > > > > It's like I tell my kids... you can't applaud the effort if not the > > > > performance. And, if asked, give encouraging criticism.
[jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I)
D'oh! :o) > -Original Message- > From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:jquery...@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Michael Geary > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 5:39 PM > To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I) > > > Never mind, you beat me to it! > > > From: Michael Geary > > > > Excellent point, Rick. > > > > But I think there may be a little typo that changed the > > meaning to something other than what you intended? :-) > > > > From: Rick Faircloth > > > > > > No faster way to kill someone's enthusiasm than to simply tear > > > something down without any encouragement. > > > > > > It's like I tell my kids... you can't applaud the effort if not the > > > performance. And, if asked, give encouraging criticism.
[jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I)
Never mind, you beat me to it! > From: Michael Geary > > Excellent point, Rick. > > But I think there may be a little typo that changed the > meaning to something other than what you intended? :-) > > From: Rick Faircloth > > > > No faster way to kill someone's enthusiasm than to simply tear > > something down without any encouragement. > > > > It's like I tell my kids... you can't applaud the effort if not the > > performance. And, if asked, give encouraging criticism.
[jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I)
Maybe it's Obvious. Sorta. (OS). On Dec 16, 2:53 pm, "Rick Faircloth" wrote: > Just take it on face value... did you even look at it? > It's obviously an operating system interface. And, yes, > this is Part 1 of a series, he stated. You don't have to > know everything right away to appreciate what's already been done! > > Rick > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:jquery...@googlegroups.com] On > > Behalf Of donb > > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:22 PM > > To: jQuery (English) > > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I) > > > I may seem a bit dense, but what's the objective here? And is 'OS' > > Operating System, Open Source, something else? Maybe Part 2 clears > > all this up, but some intro/background would help a lot. > > > On Dec 16, 7:57 am, AdrianMG wrote: > > > Finally here you have the First Part of this series of tutorials to > > > recreate an OS Web Interface with our lovely jQuery javascript > > > library. > > > > Here you have the link guys, I hope you can use it for your personal > > > projects: > > > >http://yensdesign.com/2008/12/creating-an-os-web-interface-in-jquery-...- > > >Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
[jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I)
Excellent point, Rick. But I think there may be a little typo that changed the meaning to something other than what you intended? :-) -Mike > From: Rick Faircloth > > No faster way to kill someone's enthusiasm than to simply > tear something down without any encouragement. > > It's like I tell my kids... you can't applaud the effort if > not the performance. And, if asked, give encouraging criticism.
[jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I)
Or, rather...you *can* applaud the effort if not always the performance. > -Original Message- > From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:jquery...@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Rick Faircloth > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 4:58 PM > To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I) > > > Hi, Ricardo... > > I haven't complained about anyone's criticism of the "tutorial" aspect > of what has been presented...it's the "what-good-is-this" mentality > concerning what Adrian had created that I thought was in poor taste. > > My mention of tutorials was to remind everyone that this was obviously > the first steps for someone working on a project. > > No faster way to kill someone's enthusiasm than to simply tear something > down without any encouragement. > > It's like I tell my kids... you can't applaud the effort if not the > performance. And, if asked, give encouraging criticism. > > Rick > > > -Original Message- > > From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:jquery...@googlegroups.com] On > > Behalf Of Ricardo Tomasi > > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 3:29 PM > > To: jQuery (English) > > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I) > > > > > > I have to agree with Alexandre. It's a nice demonstration of skill, > > but pasting hundreds of lines of code in boxes is not exactly > > 'teaching'. I bet most beginners would get lost pretty quickly with > > the code and end up just copy/pasting it. And for intermediate/ > > advanced JS programmers this isn't very useful, as it is just a > > background with some drag & drop funcionality. > > > > Before you say that "it's just the start" I'll have to point out that, > > despite it's simplicity, there are already many flaws: > > - the text below the icons is selectable (and gets selected on double > > click) > > - same goes for 'start' and the clock > > - cursor for dragging is a 'text selection' cursor > > - with just a little fiddling with the icons you'll get unrequested > > copies of them sitting around from failed drag&drop operations > > - you can drag icons off screen and lose them forever > > - icons can overlap and have an arbitrary z-index which you can't > > control or reorganize > > > > This is just *so* far from something functional and useful that the > > "tutorial" title can be considered misleading. > > > > However it's a very nice demonstration of how jQuery makes it very > > easy to mock up something that looks and reacts (at first look) pretty > > much like an OS GUI. > > > > Sorry if I'm being harsh, but everyone is entitled to an opinion :] > > > > - ricardo > > > > On Dec 16, 6:05 pm, "Alexandre Plennevaux" > > wrote: > > > Rick, I read the tutorial in its entirety before commenting. This > > > document lacks structure and not only that, I could have pointed the > > > many english mistakes, because obviously this was written quite fast, > > > and i'm sure with a little more care and some more mindset framing, it > > > should be perfect. I don't know what you consider a tutorial, but as > > > for me, a tutorial means something meant to teach. In this document, > > > adam shows obvious skills, but does not teach, hence i'd call this a > > > demo. > > > I meant to be constructive because he shows a lot of enthusiasm and > > > that's his strength. But telling him this "tutorial" is perfect won't > > > help him improve, nor the jquery community as a whole. > > > > > > hope this helps clarify my comments. > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Alexandre > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Rick Faircloth > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Just take it on face value... did you even look at it? > > > > It's obviously an operating system interface. And, yes, > > > > this is Part 1 of a series, he stated. You don't have to > > > > know everything right away to appreciate what's already been done! > > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > >> -Original Message- > > > >> From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:jquery...@googlegroups.com] > > > >> On Behalf Of donb > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:22 PM > > > >> To: jQuery (English) > > > >> Subject: [jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I) > > > > > > >> I may seem a bit dense, but what's the objective here? And is 'OS' > > > >> Operating System, Open Source, something else? Maybe Part 2 clears > > > >> all this up, but some intro/background would help a lot. > > > > > > >> On Dec 16, 7:57 am, AdrianMG wrote: > > > >> > Finally here you have the First Part of this series of tutorials to > > > >> > recreate an OS Web Interface with our lovely jQuery javascript > > > >> > library. > > > > > > >> > Here you have the link guys, I hope you can use it for your personal > > > >> > projects: > > > > > > >> >http://yensdesign.com/2008/12/creating-an-os-web-interface-in-jquery-...
[jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I)
Hi, Ricardo... I haven't complained about anyone's criticism of the "tutorial" aspect of what has been presented...it's the "what-good-is-this" mentality concerning what Adrian had created that I thought was in poor taste. My mention of tutorials was to remind everyone that this was obviously the first steps for someone working on a project. No faster way to kill someone's enthusiasm than to simply tear something down without any encouragement. It's like I tell my kids... you can't applaud the effort if not the performance. And, if asked, give encouraging criticism. Rick > -Original Message- > From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:jquery...@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Ricardo Tomasi > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 3:29 PM > To: jQuery (English) > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I) > > > I have to agree with Alexandre. It's a nice demonstration of skill, > but pasting hundreds of lines of code in boxes is not exactly > 'teaching'. I bet most beginners would get lost pretty quickly with > the code and end up just copy/pasting it. And for intermediate/ > advanced JS programmers this isn't very useful, as it is just a > background with some drag & drop funcionality. > > Before you say that "it's just the start" I'll have to point out that, > despite it's simplicity, there are already many flaws: > - the text below the icons is selectable (and gets selected on double > click) > - same goes for 'start' and the clock > - cursor for dragging is a 'text selection' cursor > - with just a little fiddling with the icons you'll get unrequested > copies of them sitting around from failed drag&drop operations > - you can drag icons off screen and lose them forever > - icons can overlap and have an arbitrary z-index which you can't > control or reorganize > > This is just *so* far from something functional and useful that the > "tutorial" title can be considered misleading. > > However it's a very nice demonstration of how jQuery makes it very > easy to mock up something that looks and reacts (at first look) pretty > much like an OS GUI. > > Sorry if I'm being harsh, but everyone is entitled to an opinion :] > > - ricardo > > On Dec 16, 6:05 pm, "Alexandre Plennevaux" > wrote: > > Rick, I read the tutorial in its entirety before commenting. This > > document lacks structure and not only that, I could have pointed the > > many english mistakes, because obviously this was written quite fast, > > and i'm sure with a little more care and some more mindset framing, it > > should be perfect. I don't know what you consider a tutorial, but as > > for me, a tutorial means something meant to teach. In this document, > > adam shows obvious skills, but does not teach, hence i'd call this a > > demo. > > I meant to be constructive because he shows a lot of enthusiasm and > > that's his strength. But telling him this "tutorial" is perfect won't > > help him improve, nor the jquery community as a whole. > > > > hope this helps clarify my comments. > > > > Best, > > > > Alexandre > > > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Rick Faircloth > > > > wrote: > > > > > Just take it on face value... did you even look at it? > > > It's obviously an operating system interface. And, yes, > > > this is Part 1 of a series, he stated. You don't have to > > > know everything right away to appreciate what's already been done! > > > > > Rick > > > > >> -Original Message- > > >> From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:jquery...@googlegroups.com] On > > >> Behalf Of donb > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:22 PM > > >> To: jQuery (English) > > >> Subject: [jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I) > > > > >> I may seem a bit dense, but what's the objective here? And is 'OS' > > >> Operating System, Open Source, something else? Maybe Part 2 clears > > >> all this up, but some intro/background would help a lot. > > > > >> On Dec 16, 7:57 am, AdrianMG wrote: > > >> > Finally here you have the First Part of this series of tutorials to > > >> > recreate an OS Web Interface with our lovely jQuery javascript > > >> > library. > > > > >> > Here you have the link guys, I hope you can use it for your personal > > >> > projects: > > > > >> >http://yensdesign.com/2008/12/creating-an-os-web-interface-in-jquery-...
[jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I)
I have to agree with Alexandre. It's a nice demonstration of skill, but pasting hundreds of lines of code in boxes is not exactly 'teaching'. I bet most beginners would get lost pretty quickly with the code and end up just copy/pasting it. And for intermediate/ advanced JS programmers this isn't very useful, as it is just a background with some drag & drop funcionality. Before you say that "it's just the start" I'll have to point out that, despite it's simplicity, there are already many flaws: - the text below the icons is selectable (and gets selected on double click) - same goes for 'start' and the clock - cursor for dragging is a 'text selection' cursor - with just a little fiddling with the icons you'll get unrequested copies of them sitting around from failed drag&drop operations - you can drag icons off screen and lose them forever - icons can overlap and have an arbitrary z-index which you can't control or reorganize This is just *so* far from something functional and useful that the "tutorial" title can be considered misleading. However it's a very nice demonstration of how jQuery makes it very easy to mock up something that looks and reacts (at first look) pretty much like an OS GUI. Sorry if I'm being harsh, but everyone is entitled to an opinion :] - ricardo On Dec 16, 6:05 pm, "Alexandre Plennevaux" wrote: > Rick, I read the tutorial in its entirety before commenting. This > document lacks structure and not only that, I could have pointed the > many english mistakes, because obviously this was written quite fast, > and i'm sure with a little more care and some more mindset framing, it > should be perfect. I don't know what you consider a tutorial, but as > for me, a tutorial means something meant to teach. In this document, > adam shows obvious skills, but does not teach, hence i'd call this a > demo. > I meant to be constructive because he shows a lot of enthusiasm and > that's his strength. But telling him this "tutorial" is perfect won't > help him improve, nor the jquery community as a whole. > > hope this helps clarify my comments. > > Best, > > Alexandre > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Rick Faircloth > > wrote: > > > Just take it on face value... did you even look at it? > > It's obviously an operating system interface. And, yes, > > this is Part 1 of a series, he stated. You don't have to > > know everything right away to appreciate what's already been done! > > > Rick > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:jquery...@googlegroups.com] On > >> Behalf Of donb > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:22 PM > >> To: jQuery (English) > >> Subject: [jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I) > > >> I may seem a bit dense, but what's the objective here? And is 'OS' > >> Operating System, Open Source, something else? Maybe Part 2 clears > >> all this up, but some intro/background would help a lot. > > >> On Dec 16, 7:57 am, AdrianMG wrote: > >> > Finally here you have the First Part of this series of tutorials to > >> > recreate an OS Web Interface with our lovely jQuery javascript > >> > library. > > >> > Here you have the link guys, I hope you can use it for your personal > >> > projects: > > >> >http://yensdesign.com/2008/12/creating-an-os-web-interface-in-jquery-...
[jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I)
Rick, I read the tutorial in its entirety before commenting. This document lacks structure and not only that, I could have pointed the many english mistakes, because obviously this was written quite fast, and i'm sure with a little more care and some more mindset framing, it should be perfect. I don't know what you consider a tutorial, but as for me, a tutorial means something meant to teach. In this document, adam shows obvious skills, but does not teach, hence i'd call this a demo. I meant to be constructive because he shows a lot of enthusiasm and that's his strength. But telling him this "tutorial" is perfect won't help him improve, nor the jquery community as a whole. hope this helps clarify my comments. Best, Alexandre On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote: > > Just take it on face value... did you even look at it? > It's obviously an operating system interface. And, yes, > this is Part 1 of a series, he stated. You don't have to > know everything right away to appreciate what's already been done! > > Rick > >> -Original Message- >> From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:jquery...@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of donb >> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:22 PM >> To: jQuery (English) >> Subject: [jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I) >> >> >> I may seem a bit dense, but what's the objective here? And is 'OS' >> Operating System, Open Source, something else? Maybe Part 2 clears >> all this up, but some intro/background would help a lot. >> >> On Dec 16, 7:57 am, AdrianMG wrote: >> > Finally here you have the First Part of this series of tutorials to >> > recreate an OS Web Interface with our lovely jQuery javascript >> > library. >> > >> > Here you have the link guys, I hope you can use it for your personal >> > projects: >> > >> > http://yensdesign.com/2008/12/creating-an-os-web-interface-in-jquery-... > >
[jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I)
Just take it on face value... did you even look at it? It's obviously an operating system interface. And, yes, this is Part 1 of a series, he stated. You don't have to know everything right away to appreciate what's already been done! Rick > -Original Message- > From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:jquery...@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of donb > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:22 PM > To: jQuery (English) > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I) > > > I may seem a bit dense, but what's the objective here? And is 'OS' > Operating System, Open Source, something else? Maybe Part 2 clears > all this up, but some intro/background would help a lot. > > On Dec 16, 7:57 am, AdrianMG wrote: > > Finally here you have the First Part of this series of tutorials to > > recreate an OS Web Interface with our lovely jQuery javascript > > library. > > > > Here you have the link guys, I hope you can use it for your personal > > projects: > > > > http://yensdesign.com/2008/12/creating-an-os-web-interface-in-jquery-...
[jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I)
i meant AdrianMG, not Liam ! On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Alexandre Plennevaux wrote: > yup i must say i am also doubtful on the actual "tutorial". I'm trying > to be constructive so please don't take offense of my personal remark: > > This is more of a demo, it's not really explaining how to do it. For > instance, a tutorial should explain the rationale of a web OS > interface. AFAIK that's not such a popular choice for web apps. Not > that it shouldn't be, but some argumentation on its potential > (usability?) for end users would be good. > Then deconstruct this "OS interface" into, indeed, drag 'n drop, start > menu, desktop icons, and present the list of forthcoming tutorials. > > All this should wipe away any of the doubts i had while reading it. > > thanks liam for the effort, keep on improving it, but don't be afraid > to describe/analyse a problem before jumping on its solution. > > > best, > > alexandre > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:22 PM, donb wrote: >> >> I may seem a bit dense, but what's the objective here? And is 'OS' >> Operating System, Open Source, something else? Maybe Part 2 clears >> all this up, but some intro/background would help a lot. >> >> On Dec 16, 7:57 am, AdrianMG wrote: >>> Finally here you have the First Part of this series of tutorials to >>> recreate an OS Web Interface with our lovely jQuery javascript >>> library. >>> >>> Here you have the link guys, I hope you can use it for your personal >>> projects: >>> >>> http://yensdesign.com/2008/12/creating-an-os-web-interface-in-jquery-... >
[jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I)
yup i must say i am also doubtful on the actual "tutorial". I'm trying to be constructive so please don't take offense of my personal remark: This is more of a demo, it's not really explaining how to do it. For instance, a tutorial should explain the rationale of a web OS interface. AFAIK that's not such a popular choice for web apps. Not that it shouldn't be, but some argumentation on its potential (usability?) for end users would be good. Then deconstruct this "OS interface" into, indeed, drag 'n drop, start menu, desktop icons, and present the list of forthcoming tutorials. All this should wipe away any of the doubts i had while reading it. thanks liam for the effort, keep on improving it, but don't be afraid to describe/analyse a problem before jumping on its solution. best, alexandre On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:22 PM, donb wrote: > > I may seem a bit dense, but what's the objective here? And is 'OS' > Operating System, Open Source, something else? Maybe Part 2 clears > all this up, but some intro/background would help a lot. > > On Dec 16, 7:57 am, AdrianMG wrote: >> Finally here you have the First Part of this series of tutorials to >> recreate an OS Web Interface with our lovely jQuery javascript >> library. >> >> Here you have the link guys, I hope you can use it for your personal >> projects: >> >> http://yensdesign.com/2008/12/creating-an-os-web-interface-in-jquery-...
[jQuery] Re: Creating an OS Web Interface in jQuery (Part I)
I may seem a bit dense, but what's the objective here? And is 'OS' Operating System, Open Source, something else? Maybe Part 2 clears all this up, but some intro/background would help a lot. On Dec 16, 7:57 am, AdrianMG wrote: > Finally here you have the First Part of this series of tutorials to > recreate an OS Web Interface with our lovely jQuery javascript > library. > > Here you have the link guys, I hope you can use it for your personal > projects: > > http://yensdesign.com/2008/12/creating-an-os-web-interface-in-jquery-...
