[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
Mike Alsup wrote: I'm *really* excited to be able to run Safari on Windows, but has anyone used this beta? I've never seen anything render so slowly. It's entirely unusable on my XP box. It is also totally annoying that you can't run Safari 3 beta and 2 side by side on a Mac... grrr, Apple is making the same mistakes as Microsoft. Am I missing something? -- Klaus
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
On an (un)related note: Is anybody having rendering quirks with the Safari 3 beta on Win XP? I just noticed that a couple sites of mine that I thought would render well in Safari are messed up. Even Google Ads seems to be affected. Anybody with similar problems? -- Felix PS: Click on the link below for thinkingphp.org to see what I mean. -- http://www.thinkingphp.org http://www.fg-webdesign.de Klaus Hartl wrote: Mike Alsup wrote: I'm *really* excited to be able to run Safari on Windows, but has anyone used this beta? I've never seen anything render so slowly. It's entirely unusable on my XP box. It is also totally annoying that you can't run Safari 3 beta and 2 side by side on a Mac... grrr, Apple is making the same mistakes as Microsoft. Am I missing something? -- Klaus
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
nothing works as expected on my box (xp+sp2), google is broken, and text doesn't display on most of the pages (it only actually appeared on one page - google.com).. and there's no text in the menus.. it seems like they rushed this beta a bit.. dennis. Felix Geisendörfer wrote: On an (un)related note: Is anybody having rendering quirks with the Safari 3 beta on Win XP? I just noticed that a couple sites of mine that I thought would render well in Safari are messed up. Even Google Ads seems to be affected. Anybody with similar problems? -- Felix PS: Click on the link below for thinkingphp.org to see what I mean. -- http://www.thinkingphp.org http://www.fg-webdesign.de Klaus Hartl wrote: Mike Alsup wrote: I'm *really* excited to be able to run Safari on Windows, but has anyone used this beta? I've never seen anything render so slowly. It's entirely unusable on my XP box. It is also totally annoying that you can't run Safari 3 beta and 2 side by side on a Mac... grrr, Apple is making the same mistakes as Microsoft. Am I missing something? -- Klaus
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
Mike Alsup wrote: I'm *really* excited to be able to run Safari on Windows, but has anyone used this beta? I've never seen anything render so slowly. It's entirely unusable on my XP box. It seems that reports of success w/this in XP and Vista are all over the place. Apple's bringing beta back! For me, it works fine from what my limited testing found in Windows 2000, which isn't even listed as being supported. Mike get Safari 3.0 for Windows (or os x) ! http://www.apple.com/safari/download/ -- Chris Scott Adaptive Hosting Solutions, Inc. | Blogzerk - blog hosting http://www.adaptivehostingsolutions.com/ | http://www.blogzerk.com/
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
Actually, I did manage to install Safari 3 and maintain Safari 2. To do this, you have to copy Safari 2 into another folder in the applications folder (I made one called Safari2). So Safari 2 exists in both the folder and the Applications folder. Then I ran the installer, which replaced the Safari 2 in the Applications folder and left Safari 2 in the Safari2 folder alone. Safari 2 loaded successfully after installation complete. On 6/12/07 2:55 AM, Klaus Hartl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Alsup wrote: I'm *really* excited to be able to run Safari on Windows, but has anyone used this beta? I've never seen anything render so slowly. It's entirely unusable on my XP box. It is also totally annoying that you can't run Safari 3 beta and 2 side by side on a Mac... grrr, Apple is making the same mistakes as Microsoft. Am I missing something? -- Klaus
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
I don't know if order matters, but I kept all the elements in alphabetical order when adding this. I inserted it between IEFavoritesWereImported and InputFieldWidthRatio. -Matt On Jun 12, 2007, at 8:16 AM, Franck Marcia wrote: Yes, I did. I applied Matt's tip, restarted Safari and the debug menu appeared right after the help menu. Franck. On 12 juin, 17:05, Mike Alsup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This didn't work for me. Did anyone get the debug menu working on Windows yet? On 6/12/07, Matt Vanderpol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: open %APPDATA%\Apple Computer\Safari\Preferences.plist in your favorite text editor. Add: keyIncludeDebugMenu/key true/ and save it. Restart Safari.
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
Shelane Enos wrote: Actually, I did manage to install Safari 3 and maintain Safari 2. To do this, you have to copy Safari 2 into another folder in the applications folder (I made one called Safari2). So Safari 2 exists in both the folder and the Applications folder. Then I ran the installer, which replaced the Safari 2 in the Applications folder and left Safari 2 in the Safari2 folder alone. Safari 2 loaded successfully after installation complete. cool, I tried it the other way round, which didn't work out (installing Safari 3, copying that app, uninstalling Safari 3 - than I gave up)... Thanks!
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
Klaus Hartl schrieb: Shelane Enos wrote: Actually, I did manage to install Safari 3 and maintain Safari 2. To do this, you have to copy Safari 2 into another folder in the applications when i'm not totally wrong: safari 3 adds some basic libs to your OSX so keeping them side by side is probably the same danger than keeping a sidebyside IE on WIN. micha
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
Mike, This didn't work for me. Did anyone get the debug menu working on Windows yet? It worked for me, but the file isn't created until the first time you run Safari. -Dan
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
The beta does replace the webkit framework in OSX, so everything relying on that will be using the v3 libraries (mail etc). You might be better getting one of the webkit nightly builds (maybe somebody knows which revision corresponds to the beta?) which contain the webkit framework within the application, that way you can test the new features without replacing the v2 webkit framework on your system. http://webkit.org/ Cheers, Eric -Original Message- From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Stuhr Sent: Wednesday, 13 June 2007 1:34 AM To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com Subject: [jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC Klaus Hartl schrieb: Shelane Enos wrote: Actually, I did manage to install Safari 3 and maintain Safari 2. To do this, you have to copy Safari 2 into another folder in the applications when i'm not totally wrong: safari 3 adds some basic libs to your OSX so keeping them side by side is probably the same danger than keeping a sidebyside IE on WIN. micha
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
thanks Shelane! I've been tuned in since 10 am!!! On 6/11/07, Shelane Enos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Macrumors.com is running a continuous AJAX update of the keynote address of WWDC. No more update in 60 seconds countdown. -- Ⓙⓐⓚⓔ - יעקב ʝǡǩȩ ᎫᎪᏦᎬ
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
10:49 amusing safari to make widgets from web pages Woo hoo! On 6/11/07, Ⓙⓐⓚⓔ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks Shelane! I've been tuned in since 10 am!!! On 6/11/07, Shelane Enos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Macrumors.com is running a continuous AJAX update of the keynote address of WWDC. No more update in 60 seconds countdown. -- Ⓙⓐⓚⓔ - יעקב ʝǡǩȩ ᎫᎪᏦᎬ -- Ⓙⓐⓚⓔ - יעקב ʝǡǩȩ ᎫᎪᏦᎬ
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
That’s a feature they’ve previously announced that I’m looking forward to. On 6/11/07 10:52 AM, ?ⓐⓚⓔ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10:49 amusing safari to make widgets from web pages Woo hoo! On 6/11/07, ?ⓐⓚⓔ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks Shelane! I've been tuned in since 10 am!!! On 6/11/07, Shelane Enos [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Macrumors.com http://Macrumors.com is running a continuous AJAX update of the keynote address of WWDC. No more update in 60 seconds countdown.
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
11:09 amSafari On WINDOWS11:09 am18 Million Safari users Marketshare has climbed to 4.9% IE has 78%, Firefox 15%, others 2% We Dream Big On 6/11/07, Shelane Enos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a feature they've previously announced that I'm looking forward to. On 6/11/07 10:52 AM, ?ⓐⓚⓔ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10:49 amusing safari to make widgets from web pages Woo hoo! On 6/11/07, *?ⓐⓚⓔ* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks Shelane! I've been tuned in since 10 am!!! On 6/11/07, *Shelane Enos* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Macrumors.com http://Macrumors.com http://Macrumors.com is running a continuous AJAX update of the keynote address of WWDC. No more update in 60 seconds countdown. -- Ⓙⓐⓚⓔ - יעקב ʝǡǩȩ ᎫᎪᏦᎬ
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
11:17 amInnovative new way for developing for mobile applications. based on iphone having full safari engine...gives us tremendous capability web 2.0 + AJAX apps11:16 amHave been trying to come up with a solution to letting developers write Apps for the iPhone and keep it secure. We've come up with a very sweet solution11:16 amWhat about developers?11:15 am18 days from now11:15 amShips June 29th - 6pm11:15 amONE LAST THING: iPhone THAT MEANS jQuery!! On 6/11/07, Ⓙⓐⓚⓔ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 11:09 amSafari On WINDOWS11:09 am18 Million Safari users Marketshare has climbed to 4.9% IE has 78%, Firefox 15%, others 2% We Dream Big On 6/11/07, Shelane Enos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a feature they've previously announced that I'm looking forward to. On 6/11/07 10:52 AM, ?ⓐⓚⓔ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10:49 amusing safari to make widgets from web pages Woo hoo! On 6/11/07, *?ⓐⓚⓔ* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks Shelane! I've been tuned in since 10 am!!! On 6/11/07, *Shelane Enos* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Macrumors.com http://Macrumors.com http://Macrumors.com is running a continuous AJAX update of the keynote address of WWDC. No more update in 60 seconds countdown. -- Ⓙⓐⓚⓔ - יעקב ʝǡǩȩ ᎫᎪᏦᎬ -- Ⓙⓐⓚⓔ - יעקב ʝǡǩȩ ᎫᎪᏦᎬ
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
get Safari 3.0 for Windows (or os x) ! http://www.apple.com/safari/download/ It didn't install on my os x but the windows version may work. On 6/11/07, Ⓙⓐⓚⓔ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 11:17 amInnovative new way for developing for mobile applications. based on iphone having full safari engine...gives us tremendous capability web 2.0 + AJAX apps11:16 amHave been trying to come up with a solution to letting developers write Apps for the iPhone and keep it secure. We've come up with a very sweet solution11:16 amWhat about developers?11:15 am18 days from now11:15 am Ships June 29th - 6pm11:15 amONE LAST THING: iPhone THAT MEANS jQuery!! On 6/11/07, Ⓙⓐⓚⓔ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 11:09 amSafari On WINDOWS11:09 am18 Million Safari users Marketshare has climbed to 4.9% IE has 78%, Firefox 15%, others 2% We Dream Big On 6/11/07, Shelane Enos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a feature they've previously announced that I'm looking forward to. On 6/11/07 10:52 AM, ?ⓐⓚⓔ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10:49 amusing safari to make widgets from web pages Woo hoo! On 6/11/07, *?ⓐⓚⓔ* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks Shelane! I've been tuned in since 10 am!!! On 6/11/07, *Shelane Enos* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Macrumors.com http://Macrumors.com http://Macrumors.com is running a continuous AJAX update of the keynote address of WWDC. No more update in 60 seconds countdown. -- Ⓙⓐⓚⓔ - יעקב ʝǡǩȩ ᎫᎪᏦᎬ -- Ⓙⓐⓚⓔ - יעקב ʝǡǩȩ ᎫᎪᏦᎬ -- Ⓙⓐⓚⓔ - יעקב ʝǡǩȩ ᎫᎪᏦᎬ
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
Ⓙⓐⓚⓔ wrote: get Safari 3.0 for Windows (or os x) ! http://www.apple.com/safari/download/ It didn't install on my os x but the windows version may work. It installed just fine on Vista64, and then crashed while reading the (just updated) Leopard preview page on Apple's own site. Definitely a beta.
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
did you try it on any jQuery pages? On 6/11/07, Howard Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ⓙⓐⓚⓔ wrote: get Safari 3.0 for Windows (or os x) ! http://www.apple.com/safari/download/ It didn't install on my os x but the windows version may work. It installed just fine on Vista64, and then crashed while reading the (just updated) Leopard preview page on Apple's own site. Definitely a beta. -- Ⓙⓐⓚⓔ - יעקב ʝǡǩȩ ᎫᎪᏦᎬ
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
Ⓙⓐⓚⓔ wrote: did you try it on any jQuery pages? Well, my own work-in-progress works as well as it does on Firefox. The Interface demos seem to be fine, and even pretty quick. Howie
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
I have SERIOUS, SERIOUS doubts that there are 18 million people using Safari. I doubt there are that many people using Macs to be perfectly honest. _ From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 1:11 PM To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com Subject: [jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC 11:09 am Safari On WINDOWS 11:09 am 18 Million Safari users Marketshare has climbed to 4.9% IE has 78%, Firefox 15%, others 2% We Dream Big On 6/11/07, Shelane Enos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a feature they've previously announced that I'm looking forward to. On 6/11/07 10:52 AM, ?ⓐⓚⓔ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10:49 amusing safari to make widgets from web pages Woo hoo! On 6/11/07, ?ⓐⓚⓔ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks Shelane! I've been tuned in since 10 am!!! On 6/11/07, Shelane Enos [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Macrumors.com http://Macrumors.com http://Macrumors.com is running a continuous AJAX update of the keynote address of WWDC. No more update in 60 seconds countdown. -- Ⓙⓐⓚⓔ - יעקב ʝǡǩȩ ᎫᎪᏦᎬ
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
I have SERIOUS, SERIOUS doubts that there are 18 million people using Safari. I doubt there are that many people using Macs to be perfectly honest. I also think that FF numbers are underestimated and IE numbers overesimtated: See http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp -- Felix -- http://www.thinkingphp.org http://www.fg-webdesign.de Andy Matthews wrote: I have SERIOUS, SERIOUS doubts that there are 18 million people using Safari. I doubt there are that many people using Macs to be perfectly honest. *From:* jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of * *Sent:* Monday, June 11, 2007 1:11 PM *To:* jquery-en@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC 11:09 amSafari On WINDOWS 11:09 am18 Million Safari users Marketshare has climbed to 4.9% IE has 78%, Firefox 15%, others 2% We Dream Big On 6/11/07, *Shelane Enos* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a feature they've previously announced that I'm looking forward to. On 6/11/07 10:52 AM, ?ⓐⓚⓔ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10:49 amusing safari to make widgets from web pages Woo hoo! On 6/11/07, *?ⓐⓚⓔ* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks Shelane! I've been tuned in since 10 am!!! On 6/11/07, *Shelane Enos* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Macrumors.com http://Macrumors.com http://Macrumors.com is running a continuous AJAX update of the keynote address of WWDC. No more update in 60 seconds countdown. -- Ⓙⓐⓚⓔ - יעקב ʝǡǩȩ ᎫᎪᏦᎬ
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
I usually merge two sources for browser stats: http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2007/May/browser.php puts Safari at around 3% and http://www.echoecho.com/ (right column, halfway down) places Safari at around 1% So I'd say that 2-3% might be realistic. But how many uniques make up that list? _ From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Felix Geisendörfer Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 2:30 PM To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com Subject: [jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC I have SERIOUS, SERIOUS doubts that there are 18 million people using Safari. I doubt there are that many people using Macs to be perfectly honest. I also think that FF numbers are underestimated and IE numbers overesimtated: See http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp -- Felix -- http://www.thinkingphp.org http://www.fg-webdesign.de Andy Matthews wrote: I have SERIOUS, SERIOUS doubts that there are 18 million people using Safari. I doubt there are that many people using Macs to be perfectly honest. _ From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 1:11 PM To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com Subject: [jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC 11:09 am Safari On WINDOWS 11:09 am 18 Million Safari users Marketshare has climbed to 4.9% IE has 78%, Firefox 15%, others 2% We Dream Big On 6/11/07, Shelane Enos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a feature they've previously announced that I'm looking forward to. On 6/11/07 10:52 AM, ?ⓐⓚⓔ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10:49 amusing safari to make widgets from web pages Woo hoo! On 6/11/07, ?ⓐⓚⓔ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks Shelane! I've been tuned in since 10 am!!! On 6/11/07, Shelane Enos [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Macrumors.com http://Macrumors.com http://Macrumors.com is running a continuous AJAX update of the keynote address of WWDC. No more update in 60 seconds countdown. -- Ⓙⓐⓚⓔ - יעקב ʝǡǩȩ ᎫᎪᏦᎬ
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
I run one site that gets ~ 55k uniques a day with a pretty good global distribution and Safari is 1.2% and another site that gets only about 1000/day and is a more North American, and I get 2.5% Safari users, so I agree 2-3% seems realistic. On 6/11/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I usually merge two sources for browser stats: http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2007/May/browser.php puts Safari at around 3% and http://www.echoecho.com/ (right column, halfway down) places Safari at around 1% So I'd say that 2-3% might be realistic. But how many uniques make up that list? From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Felix Geisendörfer Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 2:30 PM To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com Subject: [jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC I have SERIOUS, SERIOUS doubts that there are 18 million people using Safari. I doubt there are that many people using Macs to be perfectly honest.I also think that FF numbers are underestimated and IE numbers overesimtated: See http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp -- Felix -- http://www.thinkingphp.org http://www.fg-webdesign.de Andy Matthews wrote: I have SERIOUS, SERIOUS doubts that there are 18 million people using Safari. I doubt there are that many people using Macs to be perfectly honest. From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 1:11 PM To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com Subject: [jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC 11:09 amSafari On WINDOWS 11:09 am18 Million Safari users Marketshare has climbed to 4.9% IE has 78%, Firefox 15%, others 2% We Dream Big On 6/11/07, Shelane Enos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a feature they've previously announced that I'm looking forward to. On 6/11/07 10:52 AM, ?ⓐⓚⓔ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10:49 amusing safari to make widgets from web pages Woo hoo! On 6/11/07, ?ⓐⓚⓔ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks Shelane! I've been tuned in since 10 am!!! On 6/11/07, Shelane Enos [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Macrumors.com http://Macrumors.com is running a continuous AJAX update of the keynote address of WWDC. No more update in 60 seconds countdown. -- Ⓙⓐⓚⓔ - יעקב ʝǡǩȩ ᎫᎪᏦᎬ -- .|.. Scott Trudeau scott.trudeau AT gmail DOT com http://sstrudeau.com/ AIM: sodthestreets
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
Actually, since Safari was introduced 3.5 years ago and Apple ships around 5 million Macs/year now, 18 million Safari uses doesn't sound too far off. What's really going to be interesting is Apple has just expanded Safari to two new platforms, Windows and iPhone. This should expand Safari market share dramatically. --- Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have SERIOUS, SERIOUS doubts that there are 18 million people using Safari. I doubt there are that many people using Macs to be perfectly honest. _ From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 1:11 PM To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com Subject: [jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC 11:09 am Safari On WINDOWS 11:09 am 18 Million Safari users Marketshare has climbed to 4.9% IE has 78%, Firefox 15%, others 2% We Dream Big On 6/11/07, Shelane Enos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a feature they've previously announced that I'm looking forward to. On 6/11/07 10:52 AM, ?âââ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10:49 amusing safari to make widgets from web pages Woo hoo! On 6/11/07, ?âââ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks Shelane! I've been tuned in since 10 am!!! On 6/11/07, Shelane Enos [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Macrumors.com http://Macrumors.com http://Macrumors.com is running a continuous AJAX update of the keynote address of WWDC. No more update in 60 seconds countdown. -- â¿âââ - ××¢×§× ÊÇ¡Ç©È© á«áªá¦á¬ Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
Howard Jones schrieb: Ⓙⓐⓚⓔ wrote: did you try it on any jQuery pages? Well, my own work-in-progress works as well as it does on Firefox. The Interface demos seem to be fine, and even pretty quick. to me it's more an alpha. i surfed some more serious sites and it crashed repeatedly. but it's definately better than swift now is. but i wouldn't expect too much from this, since quicktime is so slow on windowze. plus: it doesn't fit into the gui. it will make debugging css and js a little bit easier. just my 0.2€ micha
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
Jonathan Freeman schrieb: This should expand Safari market share dramatically. especially the iphone will boost it :-) micha
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
So 18 million INSTALLS of Safari, maybe. Just because a user has it on their system, doesn't mean they'll use it. Microsoft might as well say that 300 million people use MS Paint for their graphics work. -Original Message- From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Freeman Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 2:36 PM To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com Subject: [jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC Actually, since Safari was introduced 3.5 years ago and Apple ships around 5 million Macs/year now, 18 million Safari uses doesn't sound too far off. What's really going to be interesting is Apple has just expanded Safari to two new platforms, Windows and iPhone. This should expand Safari market share dramatically. --- Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have SERIOUS, SERIOUS doubts that there are 18 million people using Safari. I doubt there are that many people using Macs to be perfectly honest. _ From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 1:11 PM To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com Subject: [jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC 11:09 am Safari On WINDOWS 11:09 am 18 Million Safari users Marketshare has climbed to 4.9% IE has 78%, Firefox 15%, others 2% We Dream Big On 6/11/07, Shelane Enos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a feature they've previously announced that I'm looking forward to. On 6/11/07 10:52 AM, ?â“â“šâ“” [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10:49 amusing safari to make widgets from web pages Woo hoo! On 6/11/07, ?â“â“šâ“” [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks Shelane! I've been tuned in since 10 am!!! On 6/11/07, Shelane Enos [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Macrumors.com http://Macrumors.com http://Macrumors.com is running a continuous AJAX update of the keynote address of WWDC. No more update in 60 seconds countdown. -- â’¿â“â“šâ“” - יעקב ÊÇ¡Ç©È© ᎫᎪá¦áŽ¬ Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
I see your point, but actually that many people probably DO use IE. Most PC users don't bother switching browsers because: a) They don't know any better b) They don't care c) IE works just fine for them so why should they change. -Original Message- From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Scott Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 3:16 PM To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com Subject: [jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC Andy Matthews wrote: So 18 million INSTALLS of Safari, maybe. Just because a user has it on their system, doesn't mean they'll use it. Microsoft might as well say that 300 million people use MS Paint for their graphics work. A more correct analogy would be saying 300 million people use IE... Safari is the default browser for Mac like IE is for Windows. -Original Message- From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Freeman Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 2:36 PM To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com Subject: [jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC Actually, since Safari was introduced 3.5 years ago and Apple ships around 5 million Macs/year now, 18 million Safari uses doesn't sound too far off. What's really going to be interesting is Apple has just expanded Safari to two new platforms, Windows and iPhone. This should expand Safari market share dramatically. --- Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have SERIOUS, SERIOUS doubts that there are 18 million people using Safari. I doubt there are that many people using Macs to be perfectly honest. _ From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 1:11 PM To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com Subject: [jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC 11:09 am Safari On WINDOWS 11:09 am 18 Million Safari users Marketshare has climbed to 4.9% IE has 78%, Firefox 15%, others 2% We Dream Big On 6/11/07, Shelane Enos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a feature they've previously announced that I'm looking forward to. On 6/11/07 10:52 AM, ?â“â“šâ“” [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10:49 amusing safari to make widgets from web pages Woo hoo! On 6/11/07, ?â“â“šâ“” [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks Shelane! I've been tuned in since 10 am!!! On 6/11/07, Shelane Enos [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Macrumors.com http://Macrumors.com http://Macrumors.com is running a continuous AJAX update of the keynote address of WWDC. No more update in 60 seconds countdown. -- â’¿â“â“šâ“” - יעקב ÊÇ¡Ç©È© ᎫᎪá¦áŽ¬ Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ -- Chris Scott Adaptive Hosting Solutions, Inc. | Blogzerk - blog hosting http://www.adaptivehostingsolutions.com/ | http://www.blogzerk.com/
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
I'm *really* excited to be able to run Safari on Windows, but has anyone used this beta? I've never seen anything render so slowly. It's entirely unusable on my XP box. Mike get Safari 3.0 for Windows (or os x) ! http://www.apple.com/safari/download/
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
Works fine on my XP (the one that sits in the corner of my office), though I haven¹t used it extensively. I can¹t believe that they would bother, personally. But what is nice is that is applies smooth font so pages look like they do on the Mac :-) On 6/11/07 3:51 PM, Mike Alsup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm *really* excited to be able to run Safari on Windows, but has anyone used this beta? I've never seen anything render so slowly. It's entirely unusable on my XP box. Mike get Safari 3.0 for Windows (or os x) ! http://www.apple.com/safari/download/
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Mike Alsup wrote on 6/11/2007 3:51 PM: I'm *really* excited to be able to run Safari on Windows, but has anyone used this beta? I've never seen anything render so slowly. It's entirely unusable on my XP box. You should wait to test anything other than your own site with it until the security bugs are patched: - David Maynor said... Yup, we are up to 6 bugs so far. 4 DoS and 2 remote execution. Not bad for an afternoon of idle fuzzing. from: http://erratasec.blogspot.com/2007/06/nce.html - - Bil
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
Sounds like you haven't switched yet. Some of us know the PC in the corner scenario well :) Seriously, I got a Mac because I needed it to test code on, and it's now my only computer. I'm not a mac user, I'm still a diehard PC user, but my brand of hardware has changed (same Intel processor though :) ). This Mac is the best PC I've ever used. Windows boots so much faster on Parallels than it ever did on PC hardware (like 15 seconds from launching parallels to surfing the web in XP). Even going from powered off to XP is faster than booting XP on my PC. My excuse was always one of cost, but I did the math, and it really isn't much more expensive anymore. And it certainly isn't more expensive if you factor in the increase in productivity and the time that I've saved from not fighting with windows so much anymore. Ok, /rant. Back to work. --Erik On 6/11/07, Chris W. Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday, June 11, 2007 3:58 PM Shelane Enos said: Works fine on my XP (the one that sits in the corner of my office), though I haven't used it extensively. Oh *that* computer? The one in the corner of your office? For minute there I thought you were talking about a different computer...
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
I AM a Mac user and have been for more that 15 years now. My PC is the machine that sits in the corner b/c I only use it when I have to, and that¹s for testing web apps only. It¹s a laptop, so it doesn¹t have to get in my way. I just VNC to it from my Mac when I test. :-) On 6/11/07 5:17 PM, Erik Beeson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like you haven't switched yet. Some of us know the PC in the corner scenario well :) Seriously, I got a Mac because I needed it to test code on, and it's now my only computer. I'm not a mac user, I'm still a diehard PC user, but my brand of hardware has changed (same Intel processor though :) ). This Mac is the best PC I've ever used. Windows boots so much faster on Parallels than it ever did on PC hardware (like 15 seconds from launching parallels to surfing the web in XP). Even going from powered off to XP is faster than booting XP on my PC. My excuse was always one of cost, but I did the math, and it really isn't much more expensive anymore. And it certainly isn't more expensive if you factor in the increase in productivity and the time that I've saved from not fighting with windows so much anymore. Ok, /rant. Back to work. --Erik On 6/11/07, Chris W. Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday, June 11, 2007 3:58 PM Shelane Enos said: Works fine on my XP (the one that sits in the corner of my office), though I haven't used it extensively. Oh *that* computer? The one in the corner of your office? For minute there I thought you were talking about a different computer...
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
I'm so old, my mac 512k is still in the closet, I still have a drawer full of floppies! My PC is used for 1 thing, testing IE! It took Safari very well. On 6/11/07, Shelane Enos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I AM a Mac user and have been for more that 15 years now. My PC is the machine that sits in the corner b/c I only use it when I have to, and that's for testing web apps only. It's a laptop, so it doesn't have to get in my way. I just VNC to it from my Mac when I test. :-) On 6/11/07 5:17 PM, Erik Beeson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like you haven't switched yet. Some of us know the PC in the corner scenario well :) Seriously, I got a Mac because I needed it to test code on, and it's now my only computer. I'm not a mac user, I'm still a diehard PC user, but my brand of hardware has changed (same Intel processor though :) ). This Mac is the best PC I've ever used. Windows boots so much faster on Parallels than it ever did on PC hardware (like 15 seconds from launching parallels to surfing the web in XP). Even going from powered off to XP is faster than booting XP on my PC. My excuse was always one of cost, but I did the math, and it really isn't much more expensive anymore. And it certainly isn't more expensive if you factor in the increase in productivity and the time that I've saved from not fighting with windows so much anymore. Ok, /rant. Back to work. --Erik On 6/11/07, *Chris W. Parker* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday, June 11, 2007 3:58 PM Shelane Enos said: Works fine on my XP (the one that sits in the corner of my office), though I haven't used it extensively. Oh *that* computer? The one in the corner of your office? For minute there I thought you were talking about a different computer... -- Ⓙⓐⓚⓔ - יעקב ʝǡǩȩ ᎫᎪᏦᎬ
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
Works fine on my XP (the one that sits in the corner of my office), though I haven't used it extensively. I can't believe that they would bother, personally. But what is nice is that is applies smooth font so pages look like they do on the Mac :-) I'm surprised it's taken them this long. The more they can get people to rely on Apple products, the more likely they are to just buy a Mac next time they buy a PC. Personally, I think it's probably a bit late to enter the browser market. I think it might be hard for them to gain leverage now that Firefox has a good foothold. Also, I've always hated Apple's UI on PC products. I hate that brushed metal look--looks very 1990s to me. -Dan
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Anyone know how to enable the debugging tools (console, etc) in v3.0 for Win? I AM a Mac user and have been for more that 15 years now. My PC is the machine that sits in the corner b/c I only use it when I have to, and that's for testing web apps only. It's a laptop, so it doesn't have to get in my way. I just VNC to it from my Mac when I test. :-)
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
the OS X command is defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1 I guess it's somewhere in the registry... it it exists! On 6/11/07, Mike Alsup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know how to enable the debugging tools (console, etc) in v3.0 for Win? I AM a Mac user and have been for more that 15 years now. My PC is the machine that sits in the corner b/c I only use it when I have to, and that's for testing web apps only. It's a laptop, so it doesn't have to get in my way. I just VNC to it from my Mac when I test. :-) -- Ⓙⓐⓚⓔ - יעקב ʝǡǩȩ ᎫᎪᏦᎬ
[jQuery] Re: Macrumors running live udpates of WWDC
Per a comment on Slashdot (http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl? sid=238141cid=19468947) open %APPDATA%\Apple Computer\Safari\Preferences.plist in your favorite text editor. Add: keyIncludeDebugMenu/key true/ and save it. Restart Safari. -Matt On Jun 11, 2007, at 8:00 PM, Mike Alsup wrote: Anyone know how to enable the debugging tools (console, etc) in v3.0 for Win? I AM a Mac user and have been for more that 15 years now. My PC is the machine that sits in the corner b/c I only use it when I have to, and that's for testing web apps only. It's a laptop, so it doesn't have to get in my way. I just VNC to it from my Mac when I test. :-)
