[JPP-Devel] svn and new features

2014-04-01 Thread Michael Michaud
Hi,

Thanks, Ede, for your always relevant advices,

r3914 brings two new features :
- date display in Attribute panel is now customizable and use the 
-MM-dd hh:mm:ss.sss
format by default (use display tab in options panel to change it)
- null values are now displayed wih a small null icon in attribute panel 
(as in Kosmo) so that
one can differentiate empty string from null values

Michaël

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Re: [JPP-Devel] Integration of the SkyPrintPlugin into CORE

2014-04-01 Thread Michael Michaud

Hi ,

Although I'm generally not in favour of adding new dependencies
to the core, I think that
- printing is a core feature
- having two printers in PLUS and none in CORE is a bit strange

So my vote is to add the new printer to the CORE

As for the name, an other option would be
File  Print  Printer
File  Print  Printer (advanced)
or
File  Print  Printer (core)
File  Print  Printer (plus)

My two cents

Michaël

I am in favour of Ede's proposal.
Peppe


2014-03-17 20:18 GMT+01:00 edgar.sol...@web.de 
mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de:


On 17.03.2014 18:39, Matthias Scholz wrote:


 Hi,

 If it works on Win/Linux/Mac and 32-bit/64-bit then absolutely
into core. The jar is only about 40 kb and makes it possible to
 Not quite correct. You need the itext jar in the lib folder too ;-)

ok, that's 1MB extra.. that smells like PLUS to me then.

 @All.. is there agreement that this is wanted in CORE, or
would we rather have it in PLUS, to keep CORE lean?
 We can have a File - Print submenu with SkyPrint in CORE and
SkyPrint +
 Geoff's plugin in the PLUS.

 I am undecided, but Printing should be a core feature. However, what
 Matthias proposed maybe best as Geoffs Printing is a bit heavier and
 people should know by now that the goodies come with PLUS
(hopefully).

i'd suggest

File-Print-Printer (Cadplan)
 Printer (SkyPrint)

as to differentiate the two. trying to describe the difference
would be to difficult in a short menu item's text.
this can easily be done with the new install mechanism.
default-plugins.xml can override the install setting of any
extension. the string would go into OJ language files then.

 wrt. to the integration.

 @All.. is there agreement that this is wanted in CORE, or would
we rather have it in PLUS, to keep CORE lean?
 We can have a File - Print submenu with SkyPrint in CORE and
SkyPrint +
 Geoff's plugin in the PLUS.

 Matthias: you might wanna read the old thread on what we
negotiated


http://sourceforge.net/p/jump-pilot/mailman/jump-pilot-devel/thread/5288BF32.3060408%40web.de/#msg31648034
 I read it yesterday again. To get the SkyPrinter run from lib/ext we
 need the itext jar in the lib path. Ede, should i move the
 itext-2.1.7.jar from lib/plus into lib/ and copy
 SkyPrinterPlugIn-1.0.0.jar to the SVN into lib/ext or do you do that
 during release build

for PLUS this is handled easily. everything in trunk/lib/plus/ is
simply copied into lib/ext/ during the PLUS release build. so,
after Jukka or others approved the extension you might simply

- add documentation to etc/readme.txt (section Licensing/PLUS),
read other entries there to get an idea of the needed information
- commit the needed jar to lib/plus/  it will be included in the
next PLUS build

as you volunteered (kind of) now for the extension's maintenance
;) please also generate a proper extension release for sf.net
http://sf.net files, instead of only a jar.
that would be a zip file, containing

ReadMe.txt - with chapters
 Installation - which file to copy where
 Licenses - name, files, component
lib files - needed support jars, extension jar
license files (txt,pdf...) for the components above, download them
from the net

and upload it for users wanting to use the extension with a
barebone CORE OJ only.

regards.. ede


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Re: [JPP-Devel] Integration of the SkyPrintPlugin into CORE

2014-04-01 Thread Michael Michaud

Hi Geoff, Matthias

Thanks a lot for the offer Geoff.

As I'm not a daily user of printing features, my main concern
for now is to rationalize developpements and to develop in a
useful way.
To help heading in that direction, may advice would be
- to make a detailed comparison of skyprinter and cadplan
printer features
- to make a small survey about how people use them and how
they are satisfied with them
- to study how they can converge or how they can complete
each other in future developments

But the first step is probably to make skyprinter available,
either in core or in plus version.

Matthias, what do you think ? Is there already a comparison
between both plugins ?

Best regards,

Michaël



Dear All

I would be quite happy to look at adding any required additional 
functionality to my printer plugin if this would add to the general 
OpenJump capability.  Please let me know what might be useful.


thanks

Geoff


On 18/03/2014 18:02, Rahkonen Jukka (Tike) wrote:


Hi,

Let SkyPrint be in the Plus then. However, then Core will still 
remain without printing capabilities which I think it would deserve.


But there is already the Save view as.. option in Core. If I think 
my own printing needs I need very often not only the map on a paper 
but also title, legend in a good place and fixed, selectable scale. 
Having these features brings the core printer pretty close to Cadplan 
printer plugin so perhaps OJ Core will live without printing options.


For me title and legend and more frequently needed options than 
layered PDF which is the biggest gig in Skyprint.  Perhaps it could 
be possible to add layering into Cadplan printer which also seems to 
be able to write PDF files with iText.


I have a small wish for the SkyPrint plugin: it could have a dropdown 
menu for selecting the most common paper sizes for PDF dimensions.


-Jukka Rahkonen-

*Lähettäjä:*Giuseppe Aruta [mailto:giuseppe_ar...@yahoo.it]
*Lähetetty:* 18. maaliskuuta 2014 11:05
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*Aihe:* Re: [JPP-Devel] Integration of the SkyPrintPlugin into CORE

I am in favour of Ede's proposal.

Peppe

2014-03-17 20:18 GMT+01:00 edgar.sol...@web.de 
mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de:


On 17.03.2014 18:39, Matthias Scholz wrote:


 Hi,

 If it works on Win/Linux/Mac and 32-bit/64-bit then absolutely 
into core. The jar is only about 40 kb and makes it possible to

 Not quite correct. You need the itext jar in the lib folder too ;-)

ok, that's 1MB extra.. that smells like PLUS to me then.


 @All.. is there agreement that this is wanted in CORE, or would 
we rather have it in PLUS, to keep CORE lean?


 We can have a File - Print submenu with SkyPrint in CORE and 
SkyPrint +

 Geoff's plugin in the PLUS.

 I am undecided, but Printing should be a core feature. However, what
 Matthias proposed maybe best as Geoffs Printing is a bit heavier and
 people should know by now that the goodies come with PLUS (hopefully).

i'd suggest

File-Print-Printer (Cadplan)
 Printer (SkyPrint)

as to differentiate the two. trying to describe the difference would 
be to difficult in a short menu item's text.
this can easily be done with the new install mechanism. 
default-plugins.xml can override the install setting of any 
extension. the string would go into OJ language files then.



 wrt. to the integration.

 @All.. is there agreement that this is wanted in CORE, or would we 
rather have it in PLUS, to keep CORE lean?


 We can have a File - Print submenu with SkyPrint in CORE and 
SkyPrint +

 Geoff's plugin in the PLUS.


 Matthias: you might wanna read the old thread on what we negotiated

 
http://sourceforge.net/p/jump-pilot/mailman/jump-pilot-devel/thread/5288BF32.3060408%40web.de/#msg31648034

 I read it yesterday again. To get the SkyPrinter run from lib/ext we
 need the itext jar in the lib path. Ede, should i move the
 itext-2.1.7.jar from lib/plus into lib/ and copy
 SkyPrinterPlugIn-1.0.0.jar to the SVN into lib/ext or do you do that
 during release build

for PLUS this is handled easily. everything in trunk/lib/plus/ is 
simply copied into lib/ext/ during the PLUS release build. so, after 
Jukka or others approved the extension you might simply


- add documentation to etc/readme.txt (section Licensing/PLUS), read 
other entries there to get an idea of the needed information
- commit the needed jar to lib/plus/  it will be included in the 
next PLUS build


as you volunteered (kind of) now for the extension's maintenance ;) 
please also generate a proper extension release for sf.net 
http://sf.net files, instead of only a jar.

that would be a zip file, containing

ReadMe.txt - with chapters
 Installation - which file to copy where
 Licenses - name, files, component
lib files - needed support jars, extension jar
license files (txt,pdf...) for the components above, download them 
from the net


and upload it for users wanting to use the extension with a barebone 
CORE OJ only.


regards.. ede



Re: [JPP-Devel] svn and new features

2014-04-01 Thread Giuseppe Aruta
Hi Michael,
thanks for the improvements on attribute panel.
Today I tested the new date format/panel option.
a) I add a date attribute, digit some dates and modify default value: The
format seems to remain -MM-dd hh:mm:ss.sss  even if I set to other
format
b) it is not possible to modify hous/minutes/seconds/milliseconds. The
values on my computer are set to a 12:00:00.000 standard value whatever
input I do (and whatever time of the day is). There must be something I
don't understand.
c) There is an option on Time Panel -MM-ddThh:mm:ss.sss which is not
standardized and it doesn't work (it gives back an illegal pattern
Character T error message)
d) saving to SHP and open the corresponding DBF file with Libreoffice
base,  the format is shown as mm/dd/yy format (only date no time), googling
around I found that this is a pacularity of dBase format. I wander if the
time field is saved for other file formats of OpenJUMP (es postgis)

best regards

Peppe



2014-04-01 8:38 GMT+02:00 Michael Michaud m.michael.mich...@orange.fr:

 Hi,

 Thanks, Ede, for your always relevant advices,

 r3914 brings two new features :
 - date display in Attribute panel is now customizable and use the
 -MM-dd hh:mm:ss.sss
 format by default (use display tab in options panel to change it)
 - null values are now displayed wih a small null icon in attribute panel
 (as in Kosmo) so that
 one can differentiate empty string from null values

 Michaël


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Re: [JPP-Devel] Integration of the SkyPrintPlugin into CORE

2014-04-01 Thread Larry Becker
Jukka has it right.  I think of it as two parts: a printer (or PDF) driver,
and a screen print utility.  It should be possible for Cadplan to use the
SkyPrint driver, just as it uses the ISA print driver now, if Geoff is
willing.  I would recommend that the SkyPrint driver be put in core so that
developers can count on it being there.

The only (minor) difficulty I see is the printing of the map furniture
through iText.  As I recall, I had to put in special code to support North
arrows and scale bars in SkyJUMP.

I want to thank Mattias for his good work in porting the capability, since
I was too lazy.  8-)

It may be useful to review this
threadhttp://jump-pilot-devel-openjump-develop-and-use.1063199.n5.nabble.com/JPP-Devel-RenderingManager-modes-in-skyjump-td5708408.html#a5708423from
March of last year on the same topic.

regards,
Larry Becker


On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Rahkonen Jukka (Tike) 
jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi wrote:

  Hi,



 In my opinion SkyPrint is not really a printer plugin.  It is rather an
 enhanced PrintScreen utility that sends the map from your screen to
 printer.  It has some very  good features which makes the print quality
 better than really using print screen or Save view as... option of OpenJUMP.
 These include some style adjustments and a possibility to double the raster
 image resolution.  The unique feature in SkyPrint is that it can write out
 layered PDF where each map layer from OpenJUMP is written as a separate PDF
 layer. The visibility of layers can be controlled with the layer tool of
 Acrobat Reader. I am not sure if any other viewer support this feature.



 Why I would call it PrintScreen utility is that it is missing all features
 that printed maps tend to have: Title, legend, scale, North Arrow etc.



 The SkyPrint UI shows the advanced features it has but here is the list of
 enhancement option it has for those who have not tried it:

 - Remove transparency

 - Print page border

 - Remove fills from basic style

 - Remove fills for color themes

 - Adjust line width by percent

 - Double raster image resolution



 SkyPrint creates very good quality prints and layered PDF is very nice
 format for many purposes but SkyPrint as the only printing utility is
 rather limited. Better long termo option would be to enhance the Cadplan
 printer with PDF layers and quality enhancement options.



 -Jukka Rahkonen-





 Michael Michaud wrote:



 Hi Geoff, Matthias

 Thanks a lot for the offer Geoff.

 As I'm not a daily user of printing features, my main concern
 for now is to rationalize developpements and to develop in a
 useful way.
 To help heading in that direction, may advice would be
 - to make a detailed comparison of skyprinter and cadplan
 printer features
 - to make a small survey about how people use them and how
 they are satisfied with them
 - to study how they can converge or how they can complete
 each other in future developments

 But the first step is probably to make skyprinter available,
 either in core or in plus version.

 Matthias, what do you think ? Is there already a comparison
 between both plugins ?

 Best regards,

 Michaël


 Dear All

 I would be quite happy to look at adding any required additional
 functionality to my printer plugin if this would add to the general
 OpenJump capability.  Please let me know what might be useful.

 thanks

 Geoff

  On 18/03/2014 18:02, Rahkonen Jukka (Tike) wrote:

  Hi,



 Let SkyPrint be in the Plus then. However, then Core will still remain
 without printing capabilities which I think it would deserve.

 But there is already the Save view as.. option in Core. If I think my
 own printing needs I need very often not only the map on a paper but also
 title, legend in a good place and fixed, selectable scale. Having these
 features brings the core printer pretty close to Cadplan printer plugin so
 perhaps OJ Core will live without printing options.

 For me title and legend and more frequently needed options than layered
 PDF which is the biggest gig in Skyprint.  Perhaps it could be possible to
 add layering into Cadplan printer which also seems to be able to write PDF
 files with iText.



 I have a small wish for the SkyPrint plugin: it could have a dropdown menu
 for selecting the most common paper sizes for PDF dimensions.



 -Jukka Rahkonen-



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 [mailto:giuseppe_ar...@yahoo.itgiuseppe_ar...@yahoo.it]

 *Lähetetty:* 18. maaliskuuta 2014 11:05
 *Vastaanottaja:* OpenJump develop and use
 *Aihe:* Re: [JPP-Devel] Integration of the SkyPrintPlugin into CORE



 I am in favour of Ede's proposal.

 Peppe



 2014-03-17 20:18 GMT+01:00 edgar.sol...@web.de:

 On 17.03.2014 18:39, Matthias Scholz wrote:
 
 
  Hi,
 
  If it works on Win/Linux/Mac and 32-bit/64-bit then absolutely into
 core. The jar is only about 40 kb and makes it possible to
  Not quite correct. You need the itext jar in the lib folder too ;-)

 ok, that's 1MB extra.. that smells like PLUS to me then.



Re: [JPP-Devel] Integration of the SkyPrintPlugin into CORE

2014-04-01 Thread Stefan Steiniger
Thanks for the analysis Jukka  Larry. So now my 2 cents:
I haven't used SkyPrint but a couple of times Geoffs plugin.
After reading Jukkas and Larry's comment I think we should put SkyPrint 
in Core, but maybe rename it Screen Print or PDF Print. This way it 
may also be clear what is does focus on, in comparison to Cadplans print 
plugin that does a lot more and is for plotting maps (do people still 
do that? ;).

thanks to the programmers!

cheers,
stefan

Am 01.04.14 09:46, schrieb Larry Becker:
 Jukka has it right.  I think of it as two parts: a printer (or PDF)
 driver, and a screen print utility.  It should be possible for Cadplan
 to use the SkyPrint driver, just as it uses the ISA print driver now,
 if Geoff is willing.  I would recommend that the SkyPrint driver be put
 in core so that developers can count on it being there.

 The only (minor) difficulty I see is the printing of the map furniture
 through iText.  As I recall, I had to put in special code to support
 North arrows and scale bars in SkyJUMP.

 I want to thank Mattias for his good work in porting the capability,
 since I was too lazy.  8-)

 It may be useful to review this thread
 http://jump-pilot-devel-openjump-develop-and-use.1063199.n5.nabble.com/JPP-Devel-RenderingManager-modes-in-skyjump-td5708408.html#a5708423
 from March of last year on the same topic.

 regards,
 Larry Becker


 On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Rahkonen Jukka (Tike)
 jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi wrote:

 Hi,

 __ __

 In my opinion SkyPrint is not really a printer plugin.  It is rather
 an enhanced PrintScreen utility that sends the map from your screen
 to printer. It has some very  good features which makes the print
 quality better than really using print screen or Save view as…
 option of OpenJUMP. These include some style adjustments and a
 possibility to double the raster image resolution.  The unique
 feature in SkyPrint is that it can write out layered PDF where each
 map layer from OpenJUMP is written as a separate PDF layer. The
 visibility of layers can be controlled with the layer tool of
 Acrobat Reader. I am not sure if any other viewer support this
 feature.

 __ __

 Why I would call it PrintScreen utility is that it is missing all
 features that printed maps tend to have: Title, legend, scale, North
 Arrow etc. 

 __ __

 The SkyPrint UI shows the advanced features it has but here is the
 list of enhancement option it has for those who have not tried it:

 - Remove transparency

 - Print page border

 - Remove fills from basic style

 - Remove fills for color themes

 - Adjust line width by percent

 - Double raster image resolution

 __ __

 SkyPrint creates very good quality prints and layered PDF is very
 nice format for many purposes but SkyPrint as the only printing
 utility is rather limited. Better long termo option would be to
 enhance the Cadplan printer with PDF layers and quality enhancement
 options.

 __ __

 -Jukka Rahkonen-

 __ __

 __ __

 Michael Michaud wrote:

 __ __

 Hi Geoff, Matthias

 Thanks a lot for the offer Geoff.

 As I'm not a daily user of printing features, my main concern
 for now is to rationalize developpements and to develop in a
 useful way.
 To help heading in that direction, may advice would be
 - to make a detailed comparison of skyprinter and cadplan
 printer features
 - to make a small survey about how people use them and how
 they are satisfied with them
 - to study how they can converge or how they can complete
 each other in future developments

 But the first step is probably to make skyprinter available,
 either in core or in plus version.

 Matthias, what do you think ? Is there already a comparison
 between both plugins ?

 Best regards,

 Michaël
 

 Dear All

 I would be quite happy to look at adding any required additional
 functionality to my printer plugin if this would add to the
 general OpenJump capability.  Please let me know what might be
 useful.

 thanks

 Geoff

 

 On 18/03/2014 18:02, Rahkonen Jukka (Tike) wrote:

 Hi,

 

 Let SkyPrint be in the Plus then. However, then Core will
 still remain without printing capabilities which I think it
 would deserve. 

 But there is already the “Save view as..” option in Core. If
 I think my own printing needs I need very often not only the
 map on a paper but also title, legend in a good place and
 fixed, selectable scale. Having these features brings the
 core printer pretty close to Cadplan printer plugin so
 

Re: [JPP-Devel] Integration of the SkyPrintPlugin into CORE

2014-04-01 Thread Giuseppe Aruta
Hi Stefan,
there are still people who have to plot map, like me.
Recently I had to print again old  GIS projects (geological maps) and I
gave a chance to OpenJUMP/Cadplann printer with very nice results.
I used embedded OJ geological symbols for point symbols
For linear symbols I developed line symbol classes to use as decorations.
And for areal symbols I simple used my own patterns with Geof's
JumpFillPattern plugin (embedded into OJ PLus).
 I put a (sample map here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/opensit/files/Programmi%20e%20corsi/sample_maps/Auletta_geo.png/download.

It is a low quality derived image from a high PDF export.
Best regards
Peppe



2014-04-01 18:11 GMT+02:00 Stefan Steiniger sst...@geo.uzh.ch:

 Thanks for the analysis Jukka  Larry. So now my 2 cents:
 I haven't used SkyPrint but a couple of times Geoffs plugin.
 After reading Jukkas and Larry's comment I think we should put SkyPrint
 in Core, but maybe rename it Screen Print or PDF Print. This way it
 may also be clear what is does focus on, in comparison to Cadplans print
 plugin that does a lot more and is for plotting maps (do people still
 do that? ;).

 thanks to the programmers!

 cheers,
 stefan

 Am 01.04.14 09:46, schrieb Larry Becker:
  Jukka has it right.  I think of it as two parts: a printer (or PDF)
  driver, and a screen print utility.  It should be possible for Cadplan
  to use the SkyPrint driver, just as it uses the ISA print driver now,
  if Geoff is willing.  I would recommend that the SkyPrint driver be put
  in core so that developers can count on it being there.
 
  The only (minor) difficulty I see is the printing of the map furniture
  through iText.  As I recall, I had to put in special code to support
  North arrows and scale bars in SkyJUMP.
 
  I want to thank Mattias for his good work in porting the capability,
  since I was too lazy.  8-)
 
  It may be useful to review this thread
  
 http://jump-pilot-devel-openjump-develop-and-use.1063199.n5.nabble.com/JPP-Devel-RenderingManager-modes-in-skyjump-td5708408.html#a5708423
 
  from March of last year on the same topic.
 
  regards,
  Larry Becker
 
 
  On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Rahkonen Jukka (Tike)
  jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  __ __
 
  In my opinion SkyPrint is not really a printer plugin.  It is rather
  an enhanced PrintScreen utility that sends the map from your screen
  to printer. It has some very  good features which makes the print
  quality better than really using print screen or Save view as...
  option of OpenJUMP. These include some style adjustments and a
  possibility to double the raster image resolution.  The unique
  feature in SkyPrint is that it can write out layered PDF where each
  map layer from OpenJUMP is written as a separate PDF layer. The
  visibility of layers can be controlled with the layer tool of
  Acrobat Reader. I am not sure if any other viewer support this
  feature.
 
  __ __
 
  Why I would call it PrintScreen utility is that it is missing all
  features that printed maps tend to have: Title, legend, scale, North
  Arrow etc. 
 
  __ __
 
  The SkyPrint UI shows the advanced features it has but here is the
  list of enhancement option it has for those who have not tried
 it:
 
  - Remove transparency
 
  - Print page border
 
  - Remove fills from basic style
 
  - Remove fills for color themes
 
  - Adjust line width by percent
 
  - Double raster image resolution
 
  __ __
 
  SkyPrint creates very good quality prints and layered PDF is very
  nice format for many purposes but SkyPrint as the only printing
  utility is rather limited. Better long termo option would be to
  enhance the Cadplan printer with PDF layers and quality enhancement
  options.
 
  __ __
 
  -Jukka Rahkonen-
 
  __ __
 
  __ __
 
  Michael Michaud wrote:
 
  __ __
 
  Hi Geoff, Matthias
 
  Thanks a lot for the offer Geoff.
 
  As I'm not a daily user of printing features, my main concern
  for now is to rationalize developpements and to develop in a
  useful way.
  To help heading in that direction, may advice would be
  - to make a detailed comparison of skyprinter and cadplan
  printer features
  - to make a small survey about how people use them and how
  they are satisfied with them
  - to study how they can converge or how they can complete
  each other in future developments
 
  But the first step is probably to make skyprinter available,
  either in core or in plus version.
 
  Matthias, what do you think ? Is there already a comparison
  between both plugins ?
 
  Best regards,
 
  Michaël
  
 
  Dear All
 
  I would be quite happy to look at adding any required additional
  

Re: [JPP-Devel] Integration of the SkyPrintPlugin into CORE

2014-04-01 Thread Stefan Steiniger
Nice map! :)
so you and Andrei, both impress me with what OJ can actually do.

salduos
stefan

Am 01.04.14 13:18, schrieb Giuseppe Aruta:
 Hi Stefan,
 there are still people who have to plot map, like me.
 Recently I had to print again old  GIS projects (geological maps) and I
 gave a chance to OpenJUMP/Cadplann printer with very nice results.
 I used embedded OJ geological symbols for point symbols
 For linear symbols I developed line symbol classes to use as
 decorations. And for areal symbols I simple used my own patterns with
 Geof's JumpFillPattern plugin (embedded into OJ PLus).
   I put a (sample map here:
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/opensit/files/Programmi%20e%20corsi/sample_maps/Auletta_geo.png/download.

 It is a low quality derived image from a high PDF export.
 Best regards
 Peppe



 2014-04-01 18:11 GMT+02:00 Stefan Steiniger sst...@geo.uzh.ch
 mailto:sst...@geo.uzh.ch:

 Thanks for the analysis Jukka  Larry. So now my 2 cents:
 I haven't used SkyPrint but a couple of times Geoffs plugin.
 After reading Jukkas and Larry's comment I think we should put SkyPrint
 in Core, but maybe rename it Screen Print or PDF Print. This way it
 may also be clear what is does focus on, in comparison to Cadplans print
 plugin that does a lot more and is for plotting maps (do people still
 do that? ;).

 thanks to the programmers!

 cheers,
 stefan

 Am 01.04.14 09 tel:01.04.14%2009:46, schrieb Larry Becker:
   Jukka has it right.  I think of it as two parts: a printer (or PDF)
   driver, and a screen print utility.  It should be possible for
 Cadplan
   to use the SkyPrint driver, just as it uses the ISA print
 driver now,
   if Geoff is willing.  I would recommend that the SkyPrint driver
 be put
   in core so that developers can count on it being there.
  
   The only (minor) difficulty I see is the printing of the map
 furniture
   through iText.  As I recall, I had to put in special code to support
   North arrows and scale bars in SkyJUMP.
  
   I want to thank Mattias for his good work in porting the capability,
   since I was too lazy.  8-)
  
   It may be useful to review this thread
  
 
 http://jump-pilot-devel-openjump-develop-and-use.1063199.n5.nabble.com/JPP-Devel-RenderingManager-modes-in-skyjump-td5708408.html#a5708423
   from March of last year on the same topic.
  
   regards,
   Larry Becker
  
  
   On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Rahkonen Jukka (Tike)
   jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi
 mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi
 mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi wrote:
  
   Hi,
  
   __ __
  
   In my opinion SkyPrint is not really a printer plugin.  It is
 rather
   an enhanced PrintScreen utility that sends the map from your
 screen
   to printer. It has some very  good features which makes the print
   quality better than really using print screen or Save view as…
   option of OpenJUMP. These include some style adjustments and a
   possibility to double the raster image resolution.  The unique
   feature in SkyPrint is that it can write out layered PDF
 where each
   map layer from OpenJUMP is written as a separate PDF layer. The
   visibility of layers can be controlled with the layer tool of
   Acrobat Reader. I am not sure if any other viewer support this
   feature.
  
   __ __
  
   Why I would call it PrintScreen utility is that it is missing all
   features that printed maps tend to have: Title, legend,
 scale, North
   Arrow etc. 
  
   __ __
  
   The SkyPrint UI shows the advanced features it has but here
 is the
   list of enhancement option it has for those who have not
 tried it:
  
   - Remove transparency
  
   - Print page border
  
   - Remove fills from basic style
  
   - Remove fills for color themes
  
   - Adjust line width by percent
  
   - Double raster image resolution
  
   __ __
  
   SkyPrint creates very good quality prints and layered PDF is very
   nice format for many purposes but SkyPrint as the only printing
   utility is rather limited. Better long termo option would be to
   enhance the Cadplan printer with PDF layers and quality
 enhancement
   options.
  
   __ __
  
   -Jukka Rahkonen-
  
   __ __
  
   __ __
  
   Michael Michaud wrote:
  
   __ __
  
   Hi Geoff, Matthias
  
   Thanks a lot for the offer Geoff.
  
   As I'm not a daily user of printing features, my 

Re: [JPP-Devel] svn and new features

2014-04-01 Thread Michael Michaud

Hi Peppe,

thanks for the improvements on attribute panel.
Today I tested the new date format/panel option.

Thanks for the tests


a) I add a date attribute, digit some dates and modify default value: 
The format seems to remain -MM-dd hh:mm:ss.sss even if I set to 
other format
b) it is not possible to modify hous/minutes/seconds/milliseconds. The 
values on my computer are set to a 12:00:00.000 standard value 
whatever input I do (and whatever time of the day is). There must be 
something I don't understand.
c) There is an option on Time Panel -MM-ddThh:mm:ss.sss which is 
not standardized and it doesn't work (it gives back an illegal 
pattern Character T error message)

Yes, yes and yes, there were several bugs which should be fixed now.
Could you please test again ?

d) saving to SHP and open the corresponding DBF file with Libreoffice 
base,  the format is shown as mm/dd/yy format (only date no time), 
googling around I found that this is a pacularity of dBase format. I 
wander if the time field is saved for other file formats of OpenJUMP 
(es postgis)
Yes, OpenJUMP can read/write timestamp to/from postgis. I think it is 
also OK with jml.


Michaël


best regards

Peppe



2014-04-01 8:38 GMT+02:00 Michael Michaud m.michael.mich...@orange.fr 
mailto:m.michael.mich...@orange.fr:


Hi,

Thanks, Ede, for your always relevant advices,

r3914 brings two new features :
- date display in Attribute panel is now customizable and use the
-MM-dd hh:mm:ss.sss
format by default (use display tab in options panel to change it)
- null values are now displayed wih a small null icon in attribute
panel
(as in Kosmo) so that
one can differentiate empty string from null values

Michaël


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Re: [JPP-Devel] Integration of the SkyPrintPlugin into CORE

2014-04-01 Thread Michael Michaud
Hi
 Nice map! :)
 so you and Andrei, both impress me with what OJ can actually do.
Yes, very impressive !
Let us know. How much was done with OpenJUMP ?

Michaël

 salduos
 stefan

 Am 01.04.14 13:18, schrieb Giuseppe Aruta:
 Hi Stefan,
 there are still people who have to plot map, like me.
 Recently I had to print again old  GIS projects (geological maps) and I
 gave a chance to OpenJUMP/Cadplann printer with very nice results.
 I used embedded OJ geological symbols for point symbols
 For linear symbols I developed line symbol classes to use as
 decorations. And for areal symbols I simple used my own patterns with
 Geof's JumpFillPattern plugin (embedded into OJ PLus).
I put a (sample map here:
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/opensit/files/Programmi%20e%20corsi/sample_maps/Auletta_geo.png/download.

 It is a low quality derived image from a high PDF export.
 Best regards
 Peppe



 2014-04-01 18:11 GMT+02:00 Stefan Steiniger sst...@geo.uzh.ch
 mailto:sst...@geo.uzh.ch:

  Thanks for the analysis Jukka  Larry. So now my 2 cents:
  I haven't used SkyPrint but a couple of times Geoffs plugin.
  After reading Jukkas and Larry's comment I think we should put SkyPrint
  in Core, but maybe rename it Screen Print or PDF Print. This way it
  may also be clear what is does focus on, in comparison to Cadplans print
  plugin that does a lot more and is for plotting maps (do people still
  do that? ;).

  thanks to the programmers!

  cheers,
  stefan

  Am 01.04.14 09 tel:01.04.14%2009:46, schrieb Larry Becker:
Jukka has it right.  I think of it as two parts: a printer (or PDF)
driver, and a screen print utility.  It should be possible for
  Cadplan
to use the SkyPrint driver, just as it uses the ISA print
  driver now,
if Geoff is willing.  I would recommend that the SkyPrint driver
  be put
in core so that developers can count on it being there.
   
The only (minor) difficulty I see is the printing of the map
  furniture
through iText.  As I recall, I had to put in special code to support
North arrows and scale bars in SkyJUMP.
   
I want to thank Mattias for his good work in porting the capability,
since I was too lazy.  8-)
   
It may be useful to review this thread
   
  
 http://jump-pilot-devel-openjump-develop-and-use.1063199.n5.nabble.com/JPP-Devel-RenderingManager-modes-in-skyjump-td5708408.html#a5708423
from March of last year on the same topic.
   
regards,
Larry Becker
   
   
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Rahkonen Jukka (Tike)
jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi
  mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi
  mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi wrote:
   
Hi,
   
__ __
   
In my opinion SkyPrint is not really a printer plugin.  It is
  rather
an enhanced PrintScreen utility that sends the map from your
  screen
to printer. It has some very  good features which makes the print
quality better than really using print screen or Save view as…
option of OpenJUMP. These include some style adjustments and a
possibility to double the raster image resolution.  The unique
feature in SkyPrint is that it can write out layered PDF
  where each
map layer from OpenJUMP is written as a separate PDF layer. The
visibility of layers can be controlled with the layer tool of
Acrobat Reader. I am not sure if any other viewer support this
feature.
   
__ __
   
Why I would call it PrintScreen utility is that it is missing all
features that printed maps tend to have: Title, legend,
  scale, North
Arrow etc. 
   
__ __
   
The SkyPrint UI shows the advanced features it has but here
  is the
list of enhancement option it has for those who have not
  tried it:
   
- Remove transparency
   
- Print page border
   
- Remove fills from basic style
   
- Remove fills for color themes
   
- Adjust line width by percent
   
- Double raster image resolution
   
__ __
   
SkyPrint creates very good quality prints and layered PDF is very
nice format for many purposes but SkyPrint as the only printing
utility is rather limited. Better long termo option would be to
enhance the Cadplan printer with PDF layers and quality
  enhancement
options.
   
__ __
   
-Jukka Rahkonen-
   
__ __
   
__ __
   
Michael Michaud