Re: [j-nsp] LACP on mixed virtual chassis QFX5100/EX4300

[Vincent Clement]

Hi Farid :)

Yes, but was assuming we talk about 48T, so only 10G as far as I know, no
way to negociate 1G.

Vincent

2015-11-05 10:54 GMT+01:00 Bouzemarene, Farid (ATS) <
farid.bouzemar...@avnet.com>:

> Hi vincent ;)
>
> QFX support 1g also but you have to use 1g SFP !
>
> I had no luck with Cisco or other vendors optics but with juniper ( or
> solidoptics / juniper ) there is no problem .
>
> Farid
>
> -Original Message-
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> Of Vincent Clement
> Sent: mercredi 4 novembre 2015 19:12
> To: Michael Loftis
> Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] LACP on mixed virtual chassis QFX5100/EX4300
>
> Hello,
>
> Pretty sure QFX in 10G only, so if you want to achieve that, you'll have
> to use a uplink module to have 10G on 4300 side.
>
> Vincent
>
> 2015-11-04 2:23 GMT+01:00 Michael Loftis <mlof...@wgops.com>:
>
> > I'd take a closer look at show interfaces. When a link is 1gig QFX
> > calls it ge-. So you can have an ex-0/0/1 and a ge-0/0/1 but only one
> > is active as I do not believe tri rate SFP+ is supported.
> >
> > On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, ThienDuc Nguyen
> > <thienduc.ngu...@zayo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I was trying to create a LACP bundle between two ports : one on a
> > > EX4300, the other on a QFX5100.
> > > Both link have their speed negotiated at 1GE (but the interface name
> > > on
> > the
> > > QFX is xe-, I can't force it to ge-, and their are no way to force
> > > the speed on the QFX).
> > > if I set the lacp speed to 1ge, the configuration can't commit
> > > because it sees the QFX interface as a 10G interface...
> > >
> > >
> > > Is their a special knob to activate it, or I need to create LACP on
> > > the same device family ?  (the version is  14.1X53-D30.3)
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
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Re: [j-nsp] LACP on mixed virtual chassis QFX5100/EX4300

[Vincent Clement]

Auto-correct: seems I was wrong, I thought that because no negocation
options on xe interfaces, but should be supported as you said.
I'll make more tests, but I had trouble trying to connect 1G/100M on
QFX5100-48T with old devices.

Vincent

2015-11-05 11:04 GMT+01:00 Vincent Clement <vclement.m...@gmail.com>:

> Hi Farid :)
>
> Yes, but was assuming we talk about 48T, so only 10G as far as I know, no
> way to negociate 1G.
>
> Vincent
>
> 2015-11-05 10:54 GMT+01:00 Bouzemarene, Farid (ATS) <
> farid.bouzemar...@avnet.com>:
>
>> Hi vincent ;)
>>
>> QFX support 1g also but you have to use 1g SFP !
>>
>> I had no luck with Cisco or other vendors optics but with juniper ( or
>> solidoptics / juniper ) there is no problem .
>>
>> Farid
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: juniper-nsp [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf
>> Of Vincent Clement
>> Sent: mercredi 4 novembre 2015 19:12
>> To: Michael Loftis
>> Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
>> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] LACP on mixed virtual chassis QFX5100/EX4300
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Pretty sure QFX in 10G only, so if you want to achieve that, you'll have
>> to use a uplink module to have 10G on 4300 side.
>>
>> Vincent
>>
>> 2015-11-04 2:23 GMT+01:00 Michael Loftis <mlof...@wgops.com>:
>>
>> > I'd take a closer look at show interfaces. When a link is 1gig QFX
>> > calls it ge-. So you can have an ex-0/0/1 and a ge-0/0/1 but only one
>> > is active as I do not believe tri rate SFP+ is supported.
>> >
>> > On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, ThienDuc Nguyen
>> > <thienduc.ngu...@zayo.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi
>> > >
>> > > I was trying to create a LACP bundle between two ports : one on a
>> > > EX4300, the other on a QFX5100.
>> > > Both link have their speed negotiated at 1GE (but the interface name
>> > > on
>> > the
>> > > QFX is xe-, I can't force it to ge-, and their are no way to force
>> > > the speed on the QFX).
>> > > if I set the lacp speed to 1ge, the configuration can't commit
>> > > because it sees the QFX interface as a 10G interface...
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Is their a special knob to activate it, or I need to create LACP on
>> > > the same device family ?  (the version is  14.1X53-D30.3)
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > >
>> > > *Thien Duc Nguyen*
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Re: [j-nsp] LACP on mixed virtual chassis QFX5100/EX4300

[Luis Mercado]

If you want to do 1g on QFX you need to use an SFP transceiver. If you want to 
do 10g you need an SFP+ transceiver.  
This is specific to the QFX platform you are using... Check here for the 
QFX5100, make sure yours is a match..


http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/release-independent/junos/topics/reference/specifications/interface-qfx5100-support.html

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Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 5:29 AM
To: Bouzemarene, Farid (ATS)
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Subject: Re: [j-nsp] LACP on mixed virtual chassis QFX5100/EX4300

Auto-correct: seems I was wrong, I thought that because no negocation options 
on xe interfaces, but should be supported as you said.
I'll make more tests, but I had trouble trying to connect 1G/100M on 
QFX5100-48T with old devices.

Vincent

2015-11-05 11:04 GMT+01:00 Vincent Clement <vclement.m...@gmail.com>:

> Hi Farid :)
>
> Yes, but was assuming we talk about 48T, so only 10G as far as I know, 
> no way to negociate 1G.
>
> Vincent
>
> 2015-11-05 10:54 GMT+01:00 Bouzemarene, Farid (ATS) <
> farid.bouzemar...@avnet.com>:
>
>> Hi vincent ;)
>>
>> QFX support 1g also but you have to use 1g SFP !
>>
>> I had no luck with Cisco or other vendors optics but with juniper ( 
>> or solidoptics / juniper ) there is no problem .
>>
>> Farid
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: juniper-nsp [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On 
>> Behalf Of Vincent Clement
>> Sent: mercredi 4 novembre 2015 19:12
>> To: Michael Loftis
>> Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
>> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] LACP on mixed virtual chassis QFX5100/EX4300
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Pretty sure QFX in 10G only, so if you want to achieve that, you'll 
>> have to use a uplink module to have 10G on 4300 side.
>>
>> Vincent
>>
>> 2015-11-04 2:23 GMT+01:00 Michael Loftis <mlof...@wgops.com>:
>>
>> > I'd take a closer look at show interfaces. When a link is 1gig QFX 
>> > calls it ge-. So you can have an ex-0/0/1 and a ge-0/0/1 but only 
>> > one is active as I do not believe tri rate SFP+ is supported.
>> >
>> > On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, ThienDuc Nguyen 
>> > <thienduc.ngu...@zayo.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi
>> > >
>> > > I was trying to create a LACP bundle between two ports : one on a 
>> > > EX4300, the other on a QFX5100.
>> > > Both link have their speed negotiated at 1GE (but the interface 
>> > > name on
>> > the
>> > > QFX is xe-, I can't force it to ge-, and their are no way to 
>> > > force the speed on the QFX).
>> > > if I set the lacp speed to 1ge, the configuration can't commit 
>> > > because it sees the QFX interface as a 10G interface...
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Is their a special knob to activate it, or I need to create LACP 
>> > > on the same device family ?  (the version is  14.1X53-D30.3)
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > >
>> > > *Thien Duc Nguyen*
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Re: [j-nsp] LACP on mixed virtual chassis QFX5100/EX4300

[Michael Loftis]

It isn't 10G only. They support 10g/1g/100m but I don't know if they do tri
rate. And when you insert a 1G SFP it enumerates as ge-n/n/n not as xe- --
I have something like a dozen of these in production and a few 1G SFPs so
not just guessing here.

On Wednesday, November 4, 2015, Vincent Clement 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Pretty sure QFX in 10G only, so if you want to achieve that, you'll have
> to use a uplink module to have 10G on 4300 side.
>
> Vincent
>
> 2015-11-04 2:23 GMT+01:00 Michael Loftis  >:
>
>> I'd take a closer look at show interfaces. When a link is 1gig QFX calls
>> it
>> ge-. So you can have an ex-0/0/1 and a ge-0/0/1 but only one is active as
>> I
>> do not believe tri rate SFP+ is supported.
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, ThienDuc Nguyen > >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi
>> >
>> > I was trying to create a LACP bundle between two ports : one on a
>> EX4300,
>> > the other on a QFX5100.
>> > Both link have their speed negotiated at 1GE (but the interface name on
>> the
>> > QFX is xe-, I can't force it to ge-, and their are no way to force the
>> > speed on the QFX).
>> > if I set the lacp speed to 1ge, the configuration can't commit because
>> it
>> > sees the QFX interface as a 10G interface...
>> >
>> >
>> > Is their a special knob to activate it, or I need to create LACP on the
>> > same device family ?  (the version is  14.1X53-D30.3)
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > *Thien Duc Nguyen*
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Re: [j-nsp] LACP on mixed virtual chassis QFX5100/EX4300

[ThienDuc Nguyen]

Hi,
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Tobias Heister 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Am 03.11.2015 um 23:23 schrieb ThienDuc Nguyen:
>
>> I was trying to create a LACP bundle between two ports : one on a EX4300,
>> the other on a QFX5100.
>> Both link have their speed negotiated at 1GE (but the interface name on
>> the
>> QFX is xe-, I can't force it to ge-, and their are no way to force the
>> speed on the QFX).
>> if I set the lacp speed to 1ge, the configuration can't commit because it
>> sees the QFX interface as a 10G interface...
>>
>>
>> Is their a special knob to activate it, or I need to create LACP on the
>> same device family ?  (the version is  14.1X53-D30.3)
>>
>
> From what you wrote i would suspect that you use a QFX5100 copper version?
> If they behave anything like the EX45XX Copper Versions the interfaces
> will always be xe- regardless of them being only used with 1GE neighbors.
> Would be funny if the interface name would change when lower speeds are
> negotiated.
>

Yes, it's the 48T version. When I rename it to ge-, the xe- interface is
still here, and yes it would be funny ;-)
Note that this version is 3 rate (100m, 1g, 10g).


> Probably the config parser checks the physical interfaces and finds out
> that it is a 10G interface on QFX and 1G Interface on EX and will not
> commit as mixed speed AEs are only supported in later MX code.
>
> I do not know a way around that and do not have copper QFX at hand to
> check. Probably you will have hit one of these corner case situations that
> nobody thought about and nobody ever encountered and nobody ever asked
> about (at least if you ask jtac :))


Thanks a lot, I think next step will be jtac and new code.

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Re: [j-nsp] LACP on mixed virtual chassis QFX5100/EX4300

[Chris Burton]

As far as I know there is no way to set the link speed (only the link-mode
for duplex) on the underlying interfaces in a AE bundle (and they are always
labeled xe-), at least on the code I am running on the QFX5100-48T.  You ca
specify the link-speed for a AE interface which I presume sets the speed of
the underlying bundled interfaces, but I have not tested this out as I have
no EX switches.

set ae9 aggregated-ether-options link-speed ?
Possible completions:
  100g Links are 100G
  100m Links are 100M
  10g  Links are 10G
  1g   Links are 1G
  40g  Links are 40G
  50g  Links are 50G
  80g  Links are 80G
  8g   Links are 8G
  oc192Links are OC-192

Chris

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Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 10:28 AM
To: ThienDuc Nguyen; juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] LACP on mixed virtual chassis QFX5100/EX4300

Hi,

Am 03.11.2015 um 23:23 schrieb ThienDuc Nguyen:
> I was trying to create a LACP bundle between two ports : one on a 
> EX4300, the other on a QFX5100.
> Both link have their speed negotiated at 1GE (but the interface name 
> on the QFX is xe-, I can't force it to ge-, and their are no way to 
> force the speed on the QFX).
> if I set the lacp speed to 1ge, the configuration can't commit because 
> it sees the QFX interface as a 10G interface...
>
>
> Is their a special knob to activate it, or I need to create LACP on 
> the same device family ?  (the version is  14.1X53-D30.3)

 From what you wrote i would suspect that you use a QFX5100 copper version?
If they behave anything like the EX45XX Copper Versions the interfaces will
always be xe- regardless of them being only used with 1GE neighbors. Would
be funny if the interface name would change when lower speeds are
negotiated.

Probably the config parser checks the physical interfaces and finds out that
it is a 10G interface on QFX and 1G Interface on EX and will not commit as
mixed speed AEs are only supported in later MX code.

I do not know a way around that and do not have copper QFX at hand to check.
Probably you will have hit one of these corner case situations that nobody
thought about and nobody ever encountered and nobody ever asked about (at
least if you ask jtac :))

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Re: [j-nsp] LACP on mixed virtual chassis QFX5100/EX4300

[Chris Burton]

Have you tried just setting the EX side and leaving the link-speed statement 
off of the QFX side, since the QFX interfaces are hardcoded to auto negotiate 
only that might work?

 

Chris

 

From: ThienDuc Nguyen [mailto:thienduc.ngu...@zayo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 14:19 PM
To: Chris Burton
Cc: Tobias Heister; juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] LACP on mixed virtual chassis QFX5100/EX4300

 

 

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Chris Burton <chris.bur...@speakeasy.net> 
wrote:

As far as I know there is no way to set the link speed (only the link-mode
for duplex) on the underlying interfaces in a AE bundle (and they are always
labeled xe-), at least on the code I am running on the QFX5100-48T.  You ca
specify the link-speed for a AE interface which I presume sets the speed of
the underlying bundled interfaces, but I have not tested this out as I have
no EX switches.

set ae9 aggregated-ether-options link-speed ?

   

If you set the speed to 1G for example, the commit script failed because of the 
xe- interface seen as a 10G interface.

And yes, the speed is blocked as auto (in the show interface extensive | match 
speed)

 

 

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Re: [j-nsp] LACP on mixed virtual chassis QFX5100/EX4300

[Vincent Clement]

Hello,

Pretty sure QFX in 10G only, so if you want to achieve that, you'll have to
use a uplink module to have 10G on 4300 side.

Vincent

2015-11-04 2:23 GMT+01:00 Michael Loftis :

> I'd take a closer look at show interfaces. When a link is 1gig QFX calls it
> ge-. So you can have an ex-0/0/1 and a ge-0/0/1 but only one is active as I
> do not believe tri rate SFP+ is supported.
>
> On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, ThienDuc Nguyen 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I was trying to create a LACP bundle between two ports : one on a EX4300,
> > the other on a QFX5100.
> > Both link have their speed negotiated at 1GE (but the interface name on
> the
> > QFX is xe-, I can't force it to ge-, and their are no way to force the
> > speed on the QFX).
> > if I set the lacp speed to 1ge, the configuration can't commit because it
> > sees the QFX interface as a 10G interface...
> >
> >
> > Is their a special knob to activate it, or I need to create LACP on the
> > same device family ?  (the version is  14.1X53-D30.3)
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > *Thien Duc Nguyen*
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Re: [j-nsp] LACP on mixed virtual chassis QFX5100/EX4300

[Tobias Heister]

Hi,

Am 03.11.2015 um 23:23 schrieb ThienDuc Nguyen:

I was trying to create a LACP bundle between two ports : one on a EX4300,
the other on a QFX5100.
Both link have their speed negotiated at 1GE (but the interface name on the
QFX is xe-, I can't force it to ge-, and their are no way to force the
speed on the QFX).
if I set the lacp speed to 1ge, the configuration can't commit because it
sees the QFX interface as a 10G interface...


Is their a special knob to activate it, or I need to create LACP on the
same device family ?  (the version is  14.1X53-D30.3)


From what you wrote i would suspect that you use a QFX5100 copper version?
If they behave anything like the EX45XX Copper Versions the interfaces will 
always be xe- regardless of them being only used with 1GE neighbors. Would be 
funny if the interface name would change when lower speeds are negotiated.

Probably the config parser checks the physical interfaces and finds out that it 
is a 10G interface on QFX and 1G Interface on EX and will not commit as mixed 
speed AEs are only supported in later MX code.

I do not know a way around that and do not have copper QFX at hand to check. 
Probably you will have hit one of these corner case situations that nobody 
thought about and nobody ever encountered and nobody ever asked about (at least 
if you ask jtac :))

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[j-nsp] LACP on mixed virtual chassis QFX5100/EX4300

[ThienDuc Nguyen]

Hi

I was trying to create a LACP bundle between two ports : one on a EX4300,
the other on a QFX5100.
Both link have their speed negotiated at 1GE (but the interface name on the
QFX is xe-, I can't force it to ge-, and their are no way to force the
speed on the QFX).
if I set the lacp speed to 1ge, the configuration can't commit because it
sees the QFX interface as a 10G interface...


Is their a special knob to activate it, or I need to create LACP on the
same device family ?  (the version is  14.1X53-D30.3)

Thanks,

*Thien Duc Nguyen*
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Re: [j-nsp] LACP on mixed virtual chassis QFX5100/EX4300

[Michael Loftis]

I'd take a closer look at show interfaces. When a link is 1gig QFX calls it
ge-. So you can have an ex-0/0/1 and a ge-0/0/1 but only one is active as I
do not believe tri rate SFP+ is supported.

On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, ThienDuc Nguyen 
wrote:

> Hi
>
> I was trying to create a LACP bundle between two ports : one on a EX4300,
> the other on a QFX5100.
> Both link have their speed negotiated at 1GE (but the interface name on the
> QFX is xe-, I can't force it to ge-, and their are no way to force the
> speed on the QFX).
> if I set the lacp speed to 1ge, the configuration can't commit because it
> sees the QFX interface as a 10G interface...
>
>
> Is their a special knob to activate it, or I need to create LACP on the
> same device family ?  (the version is  14.1X53-D30.3)
>
> Thanks,
>
> *Thien Duc Nguyen*
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