Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem

2010-03-24 Thread Eric Van Tol
 -Original Message-
 From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:juniper-nsp-
 boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Shane Ronan
 Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 8:46 AM
 To: Chuck Anderson
 Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem
 
 
 On Mar 8, 2010, at 1:54 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote:
 
  I wonder if that is because the IS-IS Hello PDUs are being sent
  as Ethernet Multicast frames
 
 
 This had been my suspicion as well. Is it possible to disable igmp-
 snooping on the EX2500's?
 
 -Shane

As a follow-up to this problem, the above is exactly what was happening and the 
switch was dropping them.  The only workaround was to configure point-to-point. 
 That said, this problem is going to be fixed in the next version of BladeOS.  
I have a pre-release version installed at the moment and it seems to work fine.

-evt

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Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem

2010-03-09 Thread Shane Ronan


On Mar 8, 2010, at 1:54 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote:


I wonder if that is because the IS-IS Hello PDUs are being sent
as Ethernet Multicast frames



This had been my suspicion as well. Is it possible to disable igmp- 
snooping on the EX2500's?


-Shane

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Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem

2010-03-08 Thread Eric Van Tol
 -Original Message-
 From: Stefan Fouant [mailto:sfou...@shortestpathfirst.net]
 Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 8:04 AM
 To: Eric Van Tol; juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net; Derick Winkworth;
 Juniper-Nsp
 Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem
 
 I could be wrong but if I recall correctly the Hello PDU uses a padding
 TLV to pad the initial hello to the maximum MTU size.  I don't believe
 these packets are fragmentable if I recall considering it's a CLNS frame,
 i.e. no IP header and thus no fragment options.  I think it's already been
 said but the fact that you are using jumbo frames and also because you are
 using EX 2500s (not native JUNOS) makes it extremely suspect that you are
 likely running into some form of MTU issue.

But if I can push through a baby giant packet without even configuring 
anything, wouldn't that mean that large packets are allowed through?

 One other thing you might want to check on the EX 2500 - interface
 counters - look for L2 Channel errors or other inconsistencies which might
 indicate the EX doesn't recognize the Ethertype, etc.

I checked the various counter stats and could not find any errors on any of the 
ports.  In fact, I see this:

Received valid L2 unicast packets:  18473
Received valid IPv4 unicast packets:  18473
Received valid L2 multicast packets:  123024
Received valid non-IP multicast packets:  123000
Received valid IPv4 multicast packets:  24
Received 64 byte packets:  23
Received 65-127 byte packets:  123032
Received 128-255 byte packets:  1
Received 1024-1522 byte packets:  8393
Received 1523-2047 byte packets:  10048
Received octets:  48192973
Received octets in valid non-IP packets:  15127879
Received octets in valid IPv4 packets:  33065094

As an aside, it appears that OSPF works fine if I set that up.  Not a long term 
solution, though.  I do believe that you are on to something, though.  
Unfortunately, I can't see anywhere to configure the EX2500 ports to accept 
specific ethertypes.

Does anyone else have ISIS running _through_ an EX2500?

 Stefan Fouant

-evt
 --Original Message--
 From: Eric Van Tol
 Sender: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
 To: Derick Winkworth
 To: Juniper-Nsp
 Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem
 Sent: Mar 7, 2010 4:42 AM
 
  From: Derick Winkworth [mailto:dwinkwo...@att.net]
  Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 1:26 AM
  To: Eric Van Tol; Juniper-Nsp
  Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem
 
  If its JUNOS, then just configure the MTU normally in the interface
  config on the switch.
 
 It does not run JUNOS and there is no config option for MTU that I can
 find.  I don't believe that it's configurable, but it just works.
 Without configuring anything on the EX2500, I was able to pass 2000-byte
 sized IP packets between the Junipers.
 
 -evt
 
 
 
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Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem

2010-03-08 Thread Jonathan Looney
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Stefan Fouant sfou...@shortestpathfirst.net
 wrote:

 I could be wrong but if I recall correctly the Hello PDU uses a padding TLV
 to pad the initial hello to the maximum MTU size.  I don't believe these
 packets are fragmentable if I recall considering it's a CLNS frame, i.e. no
 IP header and thus no fragment options.




This is also my understanding.  And, this makes me think that you really
should make the MTUs on both sides consistent before you try to troubleshoot
anything else.

-Jon
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Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem

2010-03-08 Thread Eric Van Tol
Both MTUs are consistent and always have been.  I started out with 9216 
physical MTU and 1500 inet MTU, but have since just deleted the custom MTU and 
went with the defaults.  I am quite sure now that this is not an MTU issue, but 
rather a deficiency with the EX2500.  I've opened up a JTAC case and will let 
the list know what the problem turns out to be.

-evt

From: Jonathan Looney [mailto:jonloo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 10:57 AM
To: Eric Van Tol
Cc: Juniper-Nsp
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem


On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Stefan Fouant 
sfou...@shortestpathfirst.netmailto:sfou...@shortestpathfirst.net wrote:
I could be wrong but if I recall correctly the Hello PDU uses a padding TLV to 
pad the initial hello to the maximum MTU size.  I don't believe these packets 
are fragmentable if I recall considering it's a CLNS frame, i.e. no IP header 
and thus no fragment options.



This is also my understanding.  And, this makes me think that you really should 
make the MTUs on both sides consistent before you try to troubleshoot anything 
else.

-Jon
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Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem

2010-03-08 Thread Eric Van Tol
 -Original Message-
 From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:juniper-nsp-
 boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Eric Van Tol
 Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 11:58 AM
 To: Jonathan Looney
 Cc: Juniper-Nsp
 Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem
 
 Both MTUs are consistent and always have been.  I started out with 9216
 physical MTU and 1500 inet MTU, but have since just deleted the custom MTU
 and went with the defaults.  I am quite sure now that this is not an MTU
 issue, but rather a deficiency with the EX2500.  I've opened up a JTAC
 case and will let the list know what the problem turns out to be.
 
 -evt

Sorry for responding to my own post here.  Another helpful tip came in to use 
'point-to-point' in the ISIS config, which had been brought up before but never 
tried.  It appears that this actually works.  The person who suggested it also 
mentioned having similar problems on Force10 switches.  Unfortunately, the 
point-to-point solution won't work for me in the long term :-(

-evt

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Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem

2010-03-08 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 11:57:55AM -0500, Eric Van Tol wrote:
 Both MTUs are consistent and always have been.  I started out with 
 9216 physical MTU and 1500 inet MTU, but have since just deleted the 
 custom MTU and went with the defaults.  I am quite sure now that 
 this is not an MTU issue, but rather a deficiency with the EX2500.  
 I've opened up a JTAC case and will let the list know what the 
 problem turns out to be.

But you didn't have the iso mtu set.  Which means iso was probably 
using 9216-6-6-4-2-3 = 9195 (or 9192-6-6-4-2-3 = 9171) by default for 
a VLAN encapsulated 802.2 LLC frame. Changing the inet MTU doesn't 
affect any non-IP protocols' MTUs.
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Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem

2010-03-08 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 12:51:33PM -0500, Eric Van Tol wrote:
 Sorry for responding to my own post here.  Another helpful tip came 
 in to use 'point-to-point' in the ISIS config, which had been 
 brought up before but never tried.  It appears that this actually 
 works.  The person who suggested it also mentioned having similar 
 problems on Force10 switches.  Unfortunately, the point-to-point 
 solution won't work for me in the long term :-(

Ah.  I wonder if that is because the IS-IS Hello PDUs are being sent 
as Ethernet Multicast frames.  L1 LAN Hellos, L2 LAN Hellos, and P2P 
Hellos use different destination Ethernet Multicast addresses that the 
EX2500 might not be flooding like it should.  Or could it be that you 
have a Level or Area mismatch (I guess not because you haven't turned 
off any Levels, and Level 2 adjacencies don't require matching Area 
IDs)?

What does monitor traffic interface xe-1/2/0 no-resolve 
layer2-headers extensive show?

When I tested with and without point-to-point, I see the following:

normal ethernet, Level 1 LAN Hello:

0:90:69:bc:2c:7e  1:80:c2:0:0:14, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 
69: vlan 999, p 6, LLC, dsap OSI (0xfe) Individual, ssap OSI (0xfe) 
Command, ctrl 0x03: OSI NLPID IS-IS (0x83): length 48
L1 Lan IIH, hlen: 27, v: 1, pdu-v: 1, sys-id-len: 6 (0), max-area: 3 (0)

normal ethernet, Level 2 LAN Hello:

0:90:69:bc:2c:7e  1:80:c2:0:0:15, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 
75: vlan 999, p 6, LLC, dsap OSI (0xfe) Individual, ssap OSI (0xfe) 
Command, ctrl 0x03: OSI NLPID IS-IS (0x83): length 54
L2 Lan IIH, hlen: 27, v: 1, pdu-v: 1, sys-id-len: 6 (0), max-area: 3 (0)

point-to-point, P2P Hello:

0:90:69:bc:2c:7e  9:0:2b:0:0:5, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 
69: vlan 999, p 6, LLC, dsap OSI (0xfe) Individual, ssap OSI (0xfe) 
Command, ctrl 0x03: OSI NLPID IS-IS (0x83): length 48
p2p IIH, hlen: 20, v: 1, pdu-v: 1, sys-id-len: 6 (0), max-area: 3 (0)
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Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem

2010-03-08 Thread Eric Van Tol
 -Original Message-
 From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:juniper-nsp-
 boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Chuck Anderson
 Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 12:55 PM
 To: Juniper-Nsp
 Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem
 
 On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 11:57:55AM -0500, Eric Van Tol wrote:
  Both MTUs are consistent and always have been.  I started out with
  9216 physical MTU and 1500 inet MTU, but have since just deleted the
  custom MTU and went with the defaults.  I am quite sure now that
  this is not an MTU issue, but rather a deficiency with the EX2500.
  I've opened up a JTAC case and will let the list know what the
  problem turns out to be.
 
 But you didn't have the iso mtu set.  Which means iso was probably
 using 9216-6-6-4-2-3 = 9195 (or 9192-6-6-4-2-3 = 9171) by default for
 a VLAN encapsulated 802.2 LLC frame. Changing the inet MTU doesn't
 affect any non-IP protocols' MTUs.

Another person had previously suggested setting iso MTU, which I did, and that 
did not change anything.  The issue seems to be that the EX2500 is dropping the 
ISIS hellos upon ingress.  I've updated the JTAC case and they are attempting 
to replicate it in the lab.  

- evt

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Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem

2010-03-08 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 12:55:29PM -0500, Chuck Anderson wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 11:57:55AM -0500, Eric Van Tol wrote:
  Both MTUs are consistent and always have been.  I started out with 
  9216 physical MTU and 1500 inet MTU, but have since just deleted the 
  custom MTU and went with the defaults.  I am quite sure now that 
  this is not an MTU issue, but rather a deficiency with the EX2500.  
  I've opened up a JTAC case and will let the list know what the 
  problem turns out to be.
 
 But you didn't have the iso mtu set.  Which means iso was probably 
 using 9216-6-6-4-2-3 = 9195 (or 9192-6-6-4-2-3 = 9171) by default for 
 a VLAN encapsulated 802.2 LLC frame. Changing the inet MTU doesn't 
 affect any non-IP protocols' MTUs.

Just to confirm this I tested with a physical mtu 9192, family inet 
mtu 1500 and no family iso mtu configured:

interfaces {
fe-1/0/0 {
vlan-tagging;
mtu 9192;
unit 999 {
vlan-id 999;
family inet {
mtu 1500;
}   
family iso;
}
}
}

You can see that iso is using an MTU of 9171:

l...@main show interfaces fe-1/0/0 extensive | match mtu 
  Link-level type: Ethernet, MTU: 9192, Speed: 10m, Loopback: Disabled,
FIFO errors: 0, HS link CRC errors: 0, MTU errors: 0, Resource errors: 0
Protocol inet, MTU: 1500, Generation: 283, Route table: 3
  Flags: User-MTU
Protocol iso, MTU: 9171, Generation: 282, Route table: 3

But even so, the Hellos don't look to be padded out to the MTU 
(ethernet length is only 75):

0:90:69:bc:2c:7e  1:80:c2:0:0:15, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), 
length 75: vlan 999, p 6, LLC, dsap OSI (0xfe) Individual, ssap OSI 
(0xfe) Command, ctrl 0x03: OSI NLPID IS-IS (0x83): length 54
L2 Lan IIH, hlen: 27, v: 1, pdu-v: 1, sys-id-len: 6 (0), max-area: 3 (0)

This contradicts what it says in the JNCIA Study Guide, page 291:

Therefore, each interface must support the transmission of the 
maximum IS-IS PDU of 1492 bytes. To enforce this requirement, the 
IS-IS Hello PDUs are padded to this maximum value. If the hello gets 
to the neighboring router, the connecting interface supports the 
maximum PDU size. Should the hello not be received by the neighboring 
router, no adjacency forms and this link is not used by IS-IS.

I'm not seeing the IIH's being padded at all (JUNOS 8.4R3.3).

-Chuck, in the middle of preparing for the JNCIE exam.
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Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem

2010-03-08 Thread Sergio D.
Only the first few hellos are padded, please see link from Jeff Doyle's ISIS
OSPF book:

http://gyazo.com/1b872a14f35bd27f859a722ecc3849c5.png

(I have a hard copy of that book as well)

-- 
Sergio Danelli
JNCIE #170
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Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem

2010-03-08 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 01:43:57PM -0700, Sergio D. wrote:
 Only the first few hellos are padded, please see link from Jeff Doyle's ISIS
 OSPF book:
 
 http://gyazo.com/1b872a14f35bd27f859a722ecc3849c5.png
 
 (I have a hard copy of that book as well)

I was testing with a not-yet-up adjacency, with no neighboring routers 
available.  So these were initial hellos I was looking at.  None were 
padded at all.
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Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem

2010-03-08 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 01:43:57PM -0700, Sergio D. wrote:
 Only the first few hellos are padded, please see link from Jeff Doyle's ISIS
 OSPF book:
 
 http://gyazo.com/1b872a14f35bd27f859a722ecc3849c5.png
 
 (I have a hard copy of that book as well)

Of course most people claim isis hello padding is deprecated, including 
Juniper. :)

http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog19/presentations/katz.ppt

Also, turning on isis point-to-point also eliminates all of that DR
election nonsense as well as getting rid of the pesky multicast hello
packets which occasionally break things, but it's always a pain to
remember to turn it on. Personally I wish there was just an interface
unit level point-to-point flag you could set that told all associated
protocols this was a p2p even if it's over ethernet.

-- 
Richard A Steenbergen r...@e-gerbil.net   http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras
GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)
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Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem

2010-03-07 Thread Eric Van Tol
 From: Derick Winkworth [mailto:dwinkwo...@att.net] 
 Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 1:26 AM
 To: Eric Van Tol; Juniper-Nsp
 Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem
 
 If its JUNOS, then just configure the MTU normally in the interface
 config on the switch.

It does not run JUNOS and there is no config option for MTU that I can find.  I 
don't believe that it's configurable, but it just works.  Without configuring 
anything on the EX2500, I was able to pass 2000-byte sized IP packets between 
the Junipers.

-evt



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Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem

2010-03-07 Thread Stefan Fouant
I could be wrong but if I recall correctly the Hello PDU uses a padding TLV to 
pad the initial hello to the maximum MTU size.  I don't believe these packets 
are fragmentable if I recall considering it's a CLNS frame, i.e. no IP header 
and thus no fragment options.  I think it's already been said but the fact that 
you are using jumbo frames and also because you are using EX 2500s (not native 
JUNOS) makes it extremely suspect that you are likely running into some form of 
MTU issue.

One other thing you might want to check on the EX 2500 - interface counters - 
look for L2 Channel errors or other inconsistencies which might indicate the EX 
doesn't recognize the Ethertype, etc.

Stefan Fouant
--Original Message--
From: Eric Van Tol
Sender: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
To: Derick Winkworth
To: Juniper-Nsp
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem
Sent: Mar 7, 2010 4:42 AM

 From: Derick Winkworth [mailto:dwinkwo...@att.net] 
 Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 1:26 AM
 To: Eric Van Tol; Juniper-Nsp
 Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem
 
 If its JUNOS, then just configure the MTU normally in the interface
 config on the switch.

It does not run JUNOS and there is no config option for MTU that I can find.  I 
don't believe that it's configurable, but it just works.  Without configuring 
anything on the EX2500, I was able to pass 2000-byte sized IP packets between 
the Junipers.

-evt



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[j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem

2010-03-06 Thread Eric Van Tol
Hi all,
I've got a strange ISIS problem and I'm hoping another set of eyes can help me 
identify what is wrong here.  I've got an MX960 logically connected to a J2320 
through two EX2500 switches:

MX960 == EX2500 == EX2500 == J2320

I'm simply trying to get ISIS working between the two routers and it's not 
coming up.  Traceoptions don't show anything out of the ordinary.

MX960:
xe-1/2/0 {
vlan-tagging;
mtu 9192;
unit 1 {
vlan-id 1;
family inet {
mtu 1500;
address x.x.x.99/28;
}
family iso;
}
}
lo0 {
unit 0 {
family inet {
address 127.0.0.1/32;
address x.x.x.74/32;
}
family iso {
address 47.0001....00;
}
}
}
...
protocols {
isis {
interface xe-1/2/0.1;
interface lo0.0 {
passive;
}
}
}


J2320:
ge-0/0/0 {
vlan-tagging;
mtu 9192;
unit 1 {
vlan-id 1;
family inet {
mtu 1500;
address x.x.x.100/28;
}
family iso;
}
}
lo0 {
unit 0 {
family inet {
address 127.0.0.1/32;
address x.x.x.75/32;
}
family iso {
address 47.0001....00;
}
}
}
...
protocols {
isis {
interface ge-0/0/0.1;
interface lo0.0 {
passive;
}
}
}

I can ping fine between the two:

r...@router1# run ping x.x.x.99 source x.x.x.100
PING x.x.x.99 (x.x.x.99): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from x.x.x.99: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=4.890 ms
64 bytes from x.x.x.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=2.098 ms
64 bytes from x.x.x.99: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=2.095 ms
64 bytes from x.x.x.99: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=2.130 ms
64 bytes from x.x.x.99: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=4.217 ms
^C
--- x.x.x.99 ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 2.095/3.086/4.890/1.217 ms

If I monitor traffic on either of the interfaces, I see ISIS packets leaving, 
but nothing coming in.  The EX2500s have a very vanilla config and I'm doing no 
filtering on them.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
evt

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Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem

2010-03-06 Thread Walaa Abdel razzak
Hi

- If you have an aggregate between switches, routers... make sure they
are correctly configured from both sides?
- Also Try to check duplex. 
- Is there is possibility to connect the routers directly? This will
isolate the problem.

Best Regards,
Walaa Abdel Razzak

-Original Message-
From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Eric Van Tol
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 3:54 PM
To: Juniper-Nsp
Subject: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem

Hi all,
I've got a strange ISIS problem and I'm hoping another set of eyes can
help me identify what is wrong here.  I've got an MX960 logically
connected to a J2320 through two EX2500 switches:

MX960 == EX2500 == EX2500 == J2320

I'm simply trying to get ISIS working between the two routers and it's
not coming up.  Traceoptions don't show anything out of the ordinary.

MX960:
xe-1/2/0 {
vlan-tagging;
mtu 9192;
unit 1 {
vlan-id 1;
family inet {
mtu 1500;
address x.x.x.99/28;
}
family iso;
}
}
lo0 {
unit 0 {
family inet {
address 127.0.0.1/32;
address x.x.x.74/32;
}
family iso {
address 47.0001....00;
}
}
}
...
protocols {
isis {
interface xe-1/2/0.1;
interface lo0.0 {
passive;
}
}
}


J2320:
ge-0/0/0 {
vlan-tagging;
mtu 9192;
unit 1 {
vlan-id 1;
family inet {
mtu 1500;
address x.x.x.100/28;
}
family iso;
}
}
lo0 {
unit 0 {
family inet {
address 127.0.0.1/32;
address x.x.x.75/32;
}
family iso {
address 47.0001....00;
}
}
}
...
protocols {
isis {
interface ge-0/0/0.1;
interface lo0.0 {
passive;
}
}
}

I can ping fine between the two:

r...@router1# run ping x.x.x.99 source x.x.x.100
PING x.x.x.99 (x.x.x.99): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from x.x.x.99: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=4.890 ms
64 bytes from x.x.x.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=2.098 ms
64 bytes from x.x.x.99: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=2.095 ms
64 bytes from x.x.x.99: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=2.130 ms
64 bytes from x.x.x.99: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=4.217 ms
^C
--- x.x.x.99 ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 2.095/3.086/4.890/1.217 ms

If I monitor traffic on either of the interfaces, I see ISIS packets
leaving, but nothing coming in.  The EX2500s have a very vanilla config
and I'm doing no filtering on them.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
evt

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Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem

2010-03-06 Thread Stefan Fouant
What happens when you reduce the physical MTUs on the MX and the J-Series to 
something smaller?  Same behavior?

Stefan Fouant
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Eric Van Tol e...@atlantech.net
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 07:53:41 
To: Juniper-Nspjuniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem

Hi all,
I've got a strange ISIS problem and I'm hoping another set of eyes can help me 
identify what is wrong here.  I've got an MX960 logically connected to a J2320 
through two EX2500 switches:

MX960 == EX2500 == EX2500 == J2320

I'm simply trying to get ISIS working between the two routers and it's not 
coming up.  Traceoptions don't show anything out of the ordinary.

MX960:
xe-1/2/0 {
vlan-tagging;
mtu 9192;
unit 1 {
vlan-id 1;
family inet {
mtu 1500;
address x.x.x.99/28;
}
family iso;
}
}
lo0 {
unit 0 {
family inet {
address 127.0.0.1/32;
address x.x.x.74/32;
}
family iso {
address 47.0001....00;
}
}
}
...
protocols {
isis {
interface xe-1/2/0.1;
interface lo0.0 {
passive;
}
}
}


J2320:
ge-0/0/0 {
vlan-tagging;
mtu 9192;
unit 1 {
vlan-id 1;
family inet {
mtu 1500;
address x.x.x.100/28;
}
family iso;
}
}
lo0 {
unit 0 {
family inet {
address 127.0.0.1/32;
address x.x.x.75/32;
}
family iso {
address 47.0001....00;
}
}
}
...
protocols {
isis {
interface ge-0/0/0.1;
interface lo0.0 {
passive;
}
}
}

I can ping fine between the two:

r...@router1# run ping x.x.x.99 source x.x.x.100
PING x.x.x.99 (x.x.x.99): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from x.x.x.99: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=4.890 ms
64 bytes from x.x.x.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=2.098 ms
64 bytes from x.x.x.99: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=2.095 ms
64 bytes from x.x.x.99: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=2.130 ms
64 bytes from x.x.x.99: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=4.217 ms
^C
--- x.x.x.99 ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 2.095/3.086/4.890/1.217 ms

If I monitor traffic on either of the interfaces, I see ISIS packets leaving, 
but nothing coming in.  The EX2500s have a very vanilla config and I'm doing no 
filtering on them.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
evt

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Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem

2010-03-06 Thread Bill Blackford
Are the EX2500's configured for jumbos?

-b

-Original Message-
From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net 
[mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Stefan Fouant
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 6:41 AM
To: Eric Van Tol; juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net; Juniper-Nsp
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem

What happens when you reduce the physical MTUs on the MX and the J-Series to 
something smaller?  Same behavior?

Stefan Fouant
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Eric Van Tol e...@atlantech.net
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 07:53:41 
To: Juniper-Nspjuniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem

Hi all,
I've got a strange ISIS problem and I'm hoping another set of eyes can help me 
identify what is wrong here.  I've got an MX960 logically connected to a J2320 
through two EX2500 switches:

MX960 == EX2500 == EX2500 == J2320

I'm simply trying to get ISIS working between the two routers and it's not 
coming up.  Traceoptions don't show anything out of the ordinary.

MX960:
xe-1/2/0 {
vlan-tagging;
mtu 9192;
unit 1 {
vlan-id 1;
family inet {
mtu 1500;
address x.x.x.99/28;
}
family iso;
}
}
lo0 {
unit 0 {
family inet {
address 127.0.0.1/32;
address x.x.x.74/32;
}
family iso {
address 47.0001....00;
}
}
}
...
protocols {
isis {
interface xe-1/2/0.1;
interface lo0.0 {
passive;
}
}
}


J2320:
ge-0/0/0 {
vlan-tagging;
mtu 9192;
unit 1 {
vlan-id 1;
family inet {
mtu 1500;
address x.x.x.100/28;
}
family iso;
}
}
lo0 {
unit 0 {
family inet {
address 127.0.0.1/32;
address x.x.x.75/32;
}
family iso {
address 47.0001....00;
}
}
}
...
protocols {
isis {
interface ge-0/0/0.1;
interface lo0.0 {
passive;
}
}
}

I can ping fine between the two:

r...@router1# run ping x.x.x.99 source x.x.x.100
PING x.x.x.99 (x.x.x.99): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from x.x.x.99: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=4.890 ms
64 bytes from x.x.x.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=2.098 ms
64 bytes from x.x.x.99: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=2.095 ms
64 bytes from x.x.x.99: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=2.130 ms
64 bytes from x.x.x.99: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=4.217 ms
^C
--- x.x.x.99 ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 2.095/3.086/4.890/1.217 ms

If I monitor traffic on either of the interfaces, I see ISIS packets leaving, 
but nothing coming in.  The EX2500s have a very vanilla config and I'm doing no 
filtering on them.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
evt

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Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem

2010-03-06 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 07:53:41AM -0500, Eric Van Tol wrote:
 MX960:
 xe-1/2/0 {
 vlan-tagging;
 mtu 9192;
 unit 1 {
 vlan-id 1;
 family inet {
 mtu 1500;
 address x.x.x.99/28;
 }
 family iso;
 }
 }

Can you try configuring family iso mtu 1500?

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Re: [j-nsp] Strange IS-IS Problem

2010-03-06 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 11:06:16AM -0500, Chuck Anderson wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 07:53:41AM -0500, Eric Van Tol wrote:
  MX960:
  xe-1/2/0 {
  vlan-tagging;
  mtu 9192;
  unit 1 {
  vlan-id 1;
  family inet {
  mtu 1500;
  address x.x.x.99/28;
  }
  family iso;
  }
  }
 
 Can you try configuring family iso mtu 1500?

Actually, you may need mtu 1497:

http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/software/junos/junos56/swconfig56-interfaces/html/interfaces-physical-config5.html
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