KR> Corvair engine for sale

[GARY ROBISON via KRnet]

Complete fire wall forward with 5th bearing including a new 54/60 prop

Starter, generator, carb, oil lines,oil cooler, plated exhausts, nitrated crank

Twin coils and spark splitter resistors for the coils (a motor mount for a KR-1)


I have everything but a crush plate for the prop


Plus I will throw in another corvair  motor and parts That I was going to 
rebuild.


Gary @ 724-459-eight nine four one
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Re: KR> Tornado Fuel Saver

[GARY ROBISON via KRnet]

Larry 

I tried the mesh between two gaskets back in the 70's on my car. Remember when 
Auto gas was getting so high. Turned out it was a great place for ice to build 
up under the carb. Blocked it so bad all it would do was idle then it would 
stall out as the ice melted and drained down the manifold. Great thought - bad 
idea. My screen was about window screen size.

Even tried to energize it with 10 meg resistor running from the coil !! ION 
SPLITER or somethingwonder I still here...

G.Robison

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KR> Not trimming replies! - SOLUTION

[Gary Robison]

He's so cute when he's riled.

Then again he's absolutely right.

I hate scrubbing through the files looking for info
just to scroll and scroll and scroll through endless
undeleated email entrails. 

No time for anything more the t88 is setting up

forward spars are done working on the rear now.

GR.A learner 

Wish I could get to the Gathering but the wife is laid up
maybe next year.



If you ask me about this thread at the Gathering, you'd be well advised 
to hand me a beer first...

KR> what to look for when inspecting/buying a KR project

[Gary Robison]

I have a KR-1 Boat  hanging in my shop if your interested  ?

Building a KR-1.5 SS (super stretched) myself.

Also a VW engine mount an other things.



Gary Robison  
gr49 at comcast.net
724-45nine-eight nine four 1


Subject: Re: KR> what to look for when inspecting/buying a KR project

I do appreciate the replies. just to be clear what I'm after, I am ONLY 
interested in a KR1 single place, original style, less than 50% built. I know a 
lot of discussion takes place here and its easy to forget who is into what, but 
I have been talking about replicating Ken's original KR1 all along, except for 
some sensible improvements to enhance reliability/safety. And it will be 
tri-geared. To that goal, I have purchased a set of new KR1 plans.
If I can find a stock KR1 boat stage that would fantastic and they do 
occasionally come up. 
My question was what to look for in terms of construction detail that may 
indicate a poor build, especially indications that the woodwork cannot be used.

KR> RV-1 CANOPY

[Gary Robison]

Wanted


RV-1 canopy

If you know of anyone who has one for sale
email me below


djgarylynn at verizon.net

Gary
N49GR

KR> Test

[Gary Robison]

Thanks mike

I sent an email yesterday answering Larry about my
spar length and must have miss sent it someplace??

Reason for test !

Gary


- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Carter" 
To: "'KRnet'" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Test


> Test OK
>
> -Original Message-
> From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary 
> Robison
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 2:27 PM
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: KR> Test
>
> TEST
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KR> SPARS and extended wing span

[Gary Robison]

Larry here is a picture of my spar caps and the
2 foot pieces scarfied on.

1 foot for the 2s 1 foot extended

With the scarfs running in opposite directions and
the spruce ply web covering both sides I think
this will be plenty strong. The original use foam
and a couple of layer of glass.

As for the center section spars, along with the
AS5048 airfoil being much thicker when I made
up my spar caps the wood I used was  1/4
thicker than called for in the plans (2" top and bottom)
mine is 2.25" instead of sawing it off I incorporated
into the spar for strength (and a little extra weight)
and then shortened the vertical pieces to maintain the
8.19" over all spar height.

I think it would hold up a tank or at least a Microbus!

Gary 




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>>  This is
>>a KR 1.5 Ss with a 28' span.
> 
> 
> 
> Gary,
> 
> The 28 foot wing span on your project caught my eye.
> Larry Flesner
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[Gary Robison]

TEST

KR> VW timing printout Mark Langford

[Gary Robison]

Thanks Mark

Glad your moving at brisk pace down there
I made the mistake of retireing, now I can't
seem to find time to work on the plane.
I just finnished up the joggle that the cowling
will mate to. I need to order a canopy so I
can get on with the turtle deck. Thinking about
a RV-1 canopy and make it a slider. This is
a KR 1.5 Ss with a 28' span. The Corvair engine
is finished setting on a stand at the end of shop.

This template is for a Sterwart Headwind I
saved from the junk man it set seven years
with gas in it. It will live again. Plane is in great
shape fabric is nice I can not for the life of me
understand why the fellow could not sell it.

I got it for hauling it out of the storage locker !!

Any way thanks for the printout

> Gary Robison wrote:
>
>> Hey Mark can you share the printout for the VW timing
>> wheel I see on your website??
>
> Sure, it's at http://www.n56ml.com/n891jf/2180/degree_wheel.pdf . 
> Disregard IVO/IVC/EVO/IVO stuff though (valve openings), as they are 
> leftovers from the Corvair timing disk that I made the VW one from.  This 
> is sized to fit the SAE 1 prop hub size (5" diameter).
>
> I ran the 2180 for over an hour this weekend, and it's plenty healthy, 
> turning 3600 rpm static, which is pretty mind-blowing considering it would 
> only do 2990 rpm in flight wide open, with the same prop!
>
> I'm almost there...
>
> Mark Langford

KR> VW timing printout Mark Langford

[Gary Robison]

Hey Mark can you share the printout for the VW timing
wheel I see on your website??

Gary 
N49GR

KR> No support group

[Gary Robison]

To All,

My mother in-law is failing so we must return to the homestead.
There  is no support group for this, sorry Mark.

Luv you people, have a great time. learn lots, and make
new life time friends.

I have questions on questions that need answers but
life calls. I will be thinking about you everyone..

My friend Ivan, who is a X2 cancer survivor was going to
fly me out in his new Glasair was understanding.
This was going to be "OUR great adventure."

No Mustard butter, dogs, kraut

Gary

Have a root beer for me
There is always next year

Larry remove Gary and Ivan from PA
Thank you

KR> Mustard Butter

[Gary Robison]

The mustard butter,dogs and kraut are packed 

I am ready !

Gary

KR> Broke My Plane, a little

[Gary Robison]

I Just love this image


I have talked to Mark about this and it makes me feel just great !!!
with my primal attempts EE Haa. Just get on with it
Life is t short. Now days Mark could win a spot landing contest.
Prop stopped out of air out of energyHe learned well...





>> On approach to landing, be sure that your mixture control is on its 
>> optimum rich setting.
>
> Glad you didn't do any serious damage.  After watching that spar breaking 
> test at the Gathering a few years ago, I doubt you hurt the spar at all.
>
> I learned some similar wisdom on my first flight in N56ML.  I was about to 
> "drop it in" from about 6 feet up, and stuffed the throttle from idle to 
> wide open in about a nanosecond.  The prop quit instantly, and I dropped 
> it in anyway, putting 5.5 g's on the g-meter!  See the bottom photo at ML 
> at N56ML.com
> website at http://www.N56ML.com
>  
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KR> TEST

[Gary Robison]

TEST

KR> Glass cloth

[Gary Robison]

1 SQ Foot X 9 will get you there


> Jim L. wrote:
>
>> One has 18 threads per inch and is .008" thick.
>> The other is 15 threads per inch and is .013" thick.
>> Can anyone confirm that either is suitable for use on the KR?
>
> The .008" sounds like what is called for in the KR plans.  It's probably 
> 5.85 oz/yd, and the other is likely 9 oz/yd or so.  I've used various 
> kinds over the years, including both of what you likely have, depending on 
> application.
>
> Mark Langford
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> website at http://www.N56ML.com
> 
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KR> WAFs

[Gary Robison]

- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Pryce" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 5:05 PM
Subject: RE: KR> WAFs


I could use a good set of WAFs too if there are any left.

Chris Pryce
Columbus, MS
On Nov 25, 2012 2:09 PM, "Dan Heath"  wrote:

> Hey, I found a couple more that go with that set.  If you want them, I 
> will
> take them off the old spars and be sure that you get them.
>
> See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics
> See you at the 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN
> Bad Weather at Gathering time, is a killer or a real bummer.
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
> Of Pat and Robin Russo
> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 10:31 AM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> Hexcel Adhesive.
>
>
>
> Will the fellow who is looking for WAF's contact me at
> ...patru...@myfairpoint.net I seem to have lost your address. I put in a
> similar request on the net last year and received 2 sets...freely given.
> They are yours for the postage to mail and the thanks should go to Dan
> Heath...the original owner!!
> Pat Russo
>
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KR> Fixing a mistake

[Gary Robison]

I made a wrong cut on my rear
main spar (AS airfoil)

The spar was to be cut 4.77"
with a 12 deg cut on top and a 9 deg
on the bottom.

I made the 9 degree cut the wrong direction

  this /---/instead of  /---\

I had read some place that if you had cut your
spars for the old airfoil and wanted to use the new one
you could glue up another sparcap and recut it.


To repair mine the piece would be about 1/4" and taper
to 0" 

Do you think this would work ? there would be a 1/4"
not supported by the ply shear.


Gary
N49GR

KR> 0-200

[Gary Robison]

Any one have drawings of an 0-200 
engine mount for the KR ??


Gary Robison
N49GR

KR> o-200 cowling

[Gary Robison]

I need an 0-200 (refurbishable)

Hope you locate a cowl

Gary djgaryl...@verizon.net
N49GR




- Original Message - 
From: "Craig Williams" 
To: "K Rnet" 
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 10:11 PM
Subject: KR> o-200 cowling


> need an O-200 cowling if anyone has one for sale
> 
> Craig
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KR> Thanks Dan Heath

[Gary Robison]

> I put in a similar request on the net last year and received 2 
> sets...freely given.
> They are yours for the postage to mail and the thanks should go to Dan
> Heath...the original owner!!
> Pat Russo


BIG Thank to Dan Heath

Can't believe I am get started on the wings.
Only 180% to go !!

>From Gary

N49GR 

KR> WAFs

[Gary Robison]

Chris,
I have odds and ends of sets coming at me
so when I will surely end up with more than I
need. When the dust settles I will send the rest
to you and you can use what you need and forward
the rest to the next person.

How is that for a deal???

Gary
N49GR





- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Pryce" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 5:05 PM
Subject: RE: KR> WAFs


I could use a good set of WAFs too if there are any left.

Chris Pryce
Columbus, MS
On Nov 25, 2012 2:09 PM, "Dan Heath"  wrote:

> Hey, I found a couple more that go with that set.  If you want them, I 
> will
> take them off the old spars and be sure that you get them.
>
> See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics
> See you at the 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN
> Bad Weather at Gathering time, is a killer or a real bummer.
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
> Of Pat and Robin Russo
> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 10:31 AM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> Hexcel Adhesive.
>
>
>
> Will the fellow who is looking for WAF's contact me at
> ...patru...@myfairpoint.net I seem to have lost your address. I put in a
> similar request on the net last year and received 2 sets...freely given.
> They are yours for the postage to mail and the thanks should go to Dan
> Heath...the original owner!!
> Pat Russo
>
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KR> WAF

[Gary Robison]

Anyone have a set of wing attach fittings they want to part with?

Please contact me off the list at

djgaryl...@verizon.net 

TNX
Gary

KR> friday night

[Gary Robison]

YO you'n's

Friday night at the campfire

I got dogs kraut and mustard butter

A great late night KR snack

Makes your vertical stabilizer stand up 
(Only when mixed with rootbeer)

Leaving PA in the AM

(Rain all the way)
GARY

KR> we made the paper

[Gary Robison]

Larry,
 I changed my hat and shirt order hope it's not to late
If it is that's OK ..your doing one hell of a job

Gary


- Original Message - 
From: "Larry&Sallie Flesner" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 6:05 PM
Subject: KR> we made the paper


> 
> 
> The Gathering made the local Mt.Vernon 
> paper. 
> http://register-news.com/local/x2056647760/KR-fly-in-to-be-held   I 
> spent the day in Mt.Vernon meeting with Chris Collins (airport 
> manager) and Donnie Wilkie (restaurant owner) making final 
> arrangements for the Gathering.  The weather kept me from making the 
> trip by KR so I loaded the first 4 or 5 boxes of "stuff" in my truck 
> and hauled it to Mt.Vernon.  One or two more truck trips and I'm 
> ready to fly the KR north for the big event ! I hope to update 
> the Gathering schedule at www.krgathering.org   in the next day or 
> two.  Stay tuned.   How many days
> 
> Larry Flesner
> 
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KR> Bottom fuselage braces

[Gary Robison]

The plans (KR-2S) show a brace across the fuselage 
behind each wing spar should there be one on each side?


Gary

My plane is epoxy held together with wood.

KR> Building building building

[Gary Robison]

Last year I picked up my KR wood "Kit" at the Gathering

I needed to finish up the Man Cave before I started, and I did.

Then my friend (building a Glastar for 13 years) had cancer
come back into his  life so I redirected some of my time
to his project and it was well worth it. The Star is doing high
speed taxi test and awaiting the DAR's visit.

Me? my GR-1.5Ss "Hair-Trigger" (KR super modified) is approaching
boat stage. I love it. It is now 1:15 AM and I am about to mix some T-88
and make a glue joint before I turn in. I should have started this years
ago. Flying is great but building is...Ahhh yes it is

What is going on with your project?

Gary Robison
K3SJX

"My Plane is Epoxy held together with wood"

KR> Wheels

[Gary Robison]

Dave I am really interested

Gary

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djgaryl...@verizon.net

Or call at 724-459-8941






- Original Message - 
From: "David Rayburn" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Wheels


I have a KR1 project that I started before I was run over by a drunk
in a very large pickup truck. And as you can imagine the medical went
away as soon as they started writing prescriptions for pain
medication. And now I have this very nice KR1 project that has the
same stretch as the KR2S in my shop that needs to find a new builder.
The fuselage is done as are the spars. And there is other stuff that I
bought that goes with the project, Way to much stuff to list. It just
needs to find a builder that wants to save himself allot of money and
time. So if you know anyone that is interested  A Thousand bucks takes
it all. And if I do say so myself the construction is superb.

I  will send you the original gear legs as soon as I can.

Dave



@myfairpoint.net> wrote:
> Yes, please send me the gear legs...I will pay the price and postage. What
> is it that you are selling for a thousand dollars?? What state is the
> project in??. What a pity you are so far away.
> Pat
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Rayburn
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 7:47 PM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> Wheels
>
> I have the landing gear legs that all that stuff mounts to. Maybe I
> should have sent the whole landing gear assemblies. So you could see
> how it all worked and went together. I was just about to take all that
> stuff and sell it as scrap aluminum. If you want the gear legs I will
> let you have them for what ever it was going to bring as scrap. That
> way you could reassemble them and see how they went together.
> Let me know what you think. Also if you know anyone that would be
> interested in buying the rest of my project for $1000.00 it would be a
> great help to me. Anyone starting a new project would save a great
> deal of money and time in building. There must be at least twice that
> amount in materials alone.
>
> Dave 314 971 3433
>
> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Pat and Robin Russo
>  wrote:
>> David
>> Wheels arrivedand what a wonderful bonus,... extra tires and the
>> brakes
>> are discs!! I have built 3 KRs and never saw cable operated discs before.
>> I
>> will definitely use them when I figure out how they are installed. I
>> cannot
>> imagine what or how the springs that you have tied to the AN bolts, are
>> installed. Do you have a sketch you can post me?...otherwise I will ask 
>> on
>> the net. Will send 20 bucks in the morning mail for the postage. Thanks
>> for your help and generosity.
>> Pat
>>
>>
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KR> Staples

[Gary Robison]

Have one ...TNX



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To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Staples


> It is worth getting an electric staple gun
> 

KR> Staples

[Gary Robison]

Getting ready to apply the plywood to my frame.

I think 1/4 inch staples are going to work but they
do not go in very deep. What size did you use?

Yes, I have a nylon string under them and that
seems to work well when pulling one side out.

Gary

KR> Doubler

[Gary Robison]

The upper longeron forward doubler did you
glue it in before or after making the fuselage bend

Just trying to make things easier

Gary 

KR> new photo for KRnet webpage?

[Gary Robison]

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Langford" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 8:47 PM
Subject: KR> new photo for KRnet webpage?


> I've been meaning to ask for a new photo to head up the KRnet website at 
> http://www.krnet.org/ , so if you have a good picture of a KR flying 
> please send it my way for consideration.  Joe's plane has been at the top 
> for long enough!  We'll move it down a notch or two upon receipt of 
> something better, which may be hard to find...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark Langford
> ML at N56ML.com
> website at http://www.N56ML.com
> 
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KR> First start

[Gary Robison]

Nice hair doo in the prop wash !!!

Robert how about some pictures of your
spar mount and what you had to do
to make it work.

Also how you finished the belly slots.

The workmanship looks great


Gary Robison

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Subject: KR> First start




Hi Everyone,

This is the moment I have been waiting for. YE 
H.!

Robert Pesak

KR> flying stories ?

[Gary Robison]

WOW.

Glad to hear your OK Mark...

I am just finishing up my new man cave and as you know
the wood "kit" was pick up during the last KR gathering.

I have gathered up three Corvair engines but I will await the
out come of this latest event before moving forward with them.


Mark, keep us informed about the crank  failure and about your
thoughts on your new project.



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From: "Mark Langford" 
>
> I've got a flying story for you, but I'm not sure if it'll be 
> inspirational!
> Mark Langford
> ML at N56ML.com

KR> comm antenna 1/4 wave length

[Gary Robison]

Pete I have always used 2808/freq. in MHz = 1/4 wave in inches

Gary


Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It's about learning to dance 
in the rain


- Original Message - 
From: "Pete Klapp" 
To: 
>
> Mark /Netters
>
> On your web site, you list the length of each leg of your dipole at 20.3". 
> I went to an online site that will calculate the needed length ,
> www.onlineconversion.com/frequency_wavelength.htm. 

KR> Missing??

[Gary Robison]

Thanks Steve

Gary

- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Glover" 
To: "KR Net" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Missing??


>I gave it to Chris, the airport mgr.  You left it in the hangar.  
> --Original Message--
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> 
> Did anyone happen to see-pickup my bill of materials and invoice at the 
> hangar?
> 
> Gary 
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[Gary Robison]

Thanks Steve...

Gary


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Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Missing??


>I gave it to Chris, the airport mgr.  You left it in the hangar.  
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> Did anyone happen to see-pickup my bill of materials and invoice at the 
> hangar?
> 
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[Gary Robison]

Did anyone happen to see-pickup my bill of materials and invoice at the 
hangar?

Gary 

KR> KR Mustard Receipe

[Gary Robison]

As promised !!


2 cups vinegar
32 0z. yellow mustard
3 cups sugar
1 tlbs salt
1/3 cup fine chopped japaleno peppers 


Mix all ingredients bring to boil for 5 mins stirring
Add   1/2 to 1 cup flour to thicken
Stirring boil 5 more mins

place in sterilized jars
hot water bath for 10 mins


Enjoy

Gary Robison

KR> WICKS ARRIVING ABOUT 09:30 Friday morning at the Gathering

[Gary Robison]

I should have added 
WICKS ARRIVING ABOUT 09:30 Friday morning at the Gathering

KR> WICKS ARRIVING ABOUT 09:30 Friday morning

[Gary Robison]

WICKS ARRIVING ABOUT 09:30 Friday morning

With my spruce !!

 I feel like a kid waiting on Christmas morning



Gary Robison

KR> Wick's at KR Gathering

[Gary Robison]

I will be picking up my wood for my KR
on the 19th after the Gathering been waiting for this
for 8 years finally "A TIME TO BUILD"

perhaps he could bring it along I'll email him....

Gary Robison


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Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:39 PM
Subject: KR> Wick's at KR Gathering


> Hey Guys,This got thought about a little to late but I spoke with Scott 
> Wick today about them coming to the KR Gathering this weekend and to be 
> able to bring along any orders folks may have. He was going to call me 
> back when He found someone to drive in for us and as of 4:30 pm Eastern I 
> have not heard back. Maybe if you have an order you were going to place 
> with Wick's anyway you could place the order and  in special instructions 
> mark to be delivered to the KR Gathering in care of Mount Veron Il. This 
> Saturday. If he gets more than my order it may help get them to 
> attend.Thanks,Joe Horton,Coopersburg, PA.
> 
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KR> Well Here Go's

[Gary Robison]

I hate to clutter up the KRnet with this but I just have
to announce it.

I retired this year on May 1st

I have under construction a 24 X 40 heated/air conditioned 
"MANCAVE" to be completed in time for the gathering.

Today I called and gave up my credit card number for a pile
of spruce and plywood. 

Eight years I have be looking at the KR

Four years ago I bought the plans.

Two years ago I collected 3 Corvair engines.

Let the gluing and sanding begin.

Gary

.001% done 120% to go.

KR> third time is a charm???

[Gary Robison]

Larry just tell me what you want me to do

We can do welding(gas/tigg), wood work, engine tear down (in a hanger)
glass/carbon fiber(small scale), vacuum bagging(small again) Hot wire
foam cutting (shapes with a weller iron), Rust removal (Electrolysis)
I can organize one or two forums. Then I want to have fun also!
The need to learn from others is why I like the KR group always
sharing. Good or bad. We need to know the mistakes too!

email me off here @


djgaryl...@verizon.net

Gary

- Original Message - 
From: "Larry&Sallie Flesner" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:03 PM
Subject: KR> third time is a charm???


>
>
> (THIS IS THE THIRD POST OF THE SAME E-MAIL.  I SENT THE ORIGINAL THIS
> MORNING BUT NEVER GOT IT BACK.  I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO MISS AN
> OPPORTUNITY. :-) )
>
>
>
> With only 210 day left till the 2011 KR Gathering I thought I'd
> better get started with the planning.  Several of you have indicated
> a willingness to help but I hesitate to appoint anyone to a duty
> without them knowing what is involved.  So, I'll post here the areas
> of need and the responsibilities and let anyone that is willing to
> take on the responsibility for that area step forward.
>
> Forums:
> Assume complete responsibility for forums to be conducted to include
> acquiring speakers, setting schedule, determine forum subjects, etc.
> Minimum number of forums would be two, one on engines and one on
> airframe.   Local support provided will be the room and P.A. system.
>
> Awards:
> Assume complete responsibility for Gathering awards to include:
> securing judges to judge KR's, determine categories, determine
> winners based on judging results, design and purchase the awards.  Budget= 
> $225
>
> I currently have a volunteer to do the name tags and help to try to
> streamline the registration.  Chris Collins and crew have pretty much
> said they will take care of the registration table as in the past but
> I'm sure they could use an extra hand or two the days of the Gathering.
>
> I am currently in communications with the Holiday Inn and info should
> be coming out soon on that.  At this point I will assume
> responsibility for the hats and shirts as well as the banquet.  If
> additional needs develop I will ask for additional support.  I will
> be available to anyone who volunteers to answer questions and help
> you with your plans.
>
> For those of you that have attended past Gathering at Mt.Vernon, you
> know what a great facility they have and the great local
> support.  Well, it's getting even better this year.  The airport is
> in the finishing stages of a new 11,800 square foot hangar, complete
> with bathrooms and shower to be used by Gathering campers.  That will
> be in addition to facilities already in place.  Chris and crew are
> looking forward to the Gathering like kids to Christmas.
>
> It won't be long now.  Start making your plans..
>
> Thanks..
>
> Larry Flesner
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KR> Re:Gathering date change

[Gary Robison]

Look people

This is the way it is if you wish to manage the event,,, next
year you can,,, this year it's Larry's next year
then you run it I have been doing this type of thing for years for
different groups all good people but!!!
not everyone can be accommodated that's life who ever said it was fair

Larry  is doing the best he can... a fine job at that,,, just do your part
that is,,, come if you can,,, if not wish everyone who can change their
schedule,,, the best of times... it's like a scrubbed approach just go 
around

Larry I am retiring in April if you need help let me know (anything)

Gary

(I had the guitar at the last gathering )





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From: "Larry&Sallie Flesner" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 8:09 PM
Subject: KR> Re:Gathering date change


> At 08:29 AM 1/27/2011, you wrote:
>>Larry,
>>The date change really scrambles my plans.  How many KR types would
>>have a conflct with actually going to the AOPA spam can happening?
>>Sid Wood
> +++
>
> I've received several e-mails, some good, some disappointing, like
> the one from Sid.  I'm sorry the date change has messed up the plans
> of some of the attendees.  I'll try to make the reason for change a
> bit more clear.
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KR> Foam cutting large scale

[Gary Robison]

Mark

No, not too crazy!!!

Don't you have to be on edge to
do this anyway?

Besides with your flair for the new and untried
an easier way to sculpt your airfoil is in there.

That is one reason I pick the KR. So much
you can do to your own music

My dihedral will start inside the fuselage and
I want to cut/sand it all at one time if I can get
away with it. I just do not want to ruin allot of
foam. End up patching and filling.

Having to wait until spring to start my barn/garage to build in,
and with holes wearing through my plans from leafing,
ones mind wanders. Besides, I think it will work out, plus
others could borrow the machine. It would scale easily.




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From: "Mark Langford" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Foam cutting large scale


> Don't go too crazy guys.  With some 36 grit sandpaper glued to an aluminum
> angle, you can probably sand both wings completely to shape in 2-3 hours.
> That's probably less time than we've killed dreaming up a "better" way to 
> do
> it.  I thought of a "better" way to do it with the internal fiberglass 
> skin,
> and I spent a lot of time doing itbut I'm not sure it was worth the
> extra time.  Do what's worked for others and get on with the job...

KR> Foam cutting large scale

[Gary Robison]

That is interesting Paul

Maybe next time around ask the fellow about the wire.

I could cut smaller blocks and glue  it all together or
glue it all together - paste some .25" thick .25" under sized
airfoil templates on the ends - set the wash out - and let the
wire do the work following the templates.

And here I thought I would be the first one to do this .
.story of my life

Gary

- Original Message - 
From: "Paul & Karen Smith" 


>I buy my foam from a cool room manufacturer. They make their own
> polyurethane foam sheet.
> They pour a mix into a steel reinforced mould 1.2m x 2.4m x 1m deep and 
> lock
> a lid on before it expands.
> This results in a block of predictable density foam that they then cut 
> into
> sheets (any thickness)
> using a computer guided horizontal bandsaw using what looks like the wire
> you have shown.

KR> Foam cutting large scale

[Gary Robison]

Kevin you have it  As a machine, not as hot wire.
We are just exchanging thoughts.

I am not sure, the wire may to fine a grit and may
fill up and not cut.

Just some thinking (Day dreaming)

Gary


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To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Foam cutting large scale


> Interesting web site with that hot wire material.
>
> You guys aren't thinking your going to use this wire for HOT wire cutting
> are you?  I think this is to be used in some sort of machine that would
> move the wire like a saw blade, similar to a band saw. 

KR> Foam cutting large scale

[Gary Robison]

Pat try this for a start

http://www.mtixtl.com/diamondwireof028mmdiax65ml215feetforwiresawcutting-dw028x60.aspx

This is about a buck a foot, I have seen it at .25 a foot.

Gary




- Original Message - 
From: "Patrick and Robin Russo" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Foam cutting large scale


> You've got me thinking here! Is that wire the same that Remington 
> developed
> for hacksaws some decades back? What is the diameter and where did you
> locate it? I have several aluminum hot wire frames, 2'Long to 8'Long and 
> the
> thought of a battery operated bandsaw type frame 6-8 feet long might be 
> fun
> to play with. This will of course add a year or two to the present plane
> projects!!!
> Pat Russo
> - Original Message - >
>> Now, why I am here today. I have built many model aircraft wings out of
>> foam.
>> Much beyond 4 feet hot wiring will start to sag and become useless.
>>
>> I just came across a wire that is rough with a diamond coating. A light
>> came
>> on.
>>

KR> Foam cutting large scale

[Gary Robison]

OK OK I do not post here muchat all ...hardly ever...A LURKER
I have started the Corvair engine project.11 months ago it went idle
I need to get that up and going again.
Because?  WellMy excuse is lack of a place to build...I guess...
As soon a the spring weather dries up I will have a barn built 24 X 40
and get started. Yes I will.((I will !!)) Oh really why? I will 
retire in April and have
no excuses after that.full time KR/Corvair.

Now, why I am here today. I have built many model aircraft wings out of 
foam.
Much beyond 4 feet hot wiring will start to sag and become useless.

I just came across a wire that is rough with a diamond coating. A light came 
on.

What if one where to use this wire, in a frame make it reciprocate and 
slowly
draw it (like a hot wire) through the foam. Yes a perfect smooth contour no 
sanding .
Or make a band saw type arrangement two pulleys spring loaded..maybe

Will the wire load up and not cut? I don't know. I am asking for you 
thoughts
Thought I would order some and see what I could make out of it. It's not 
expensive.

Gary

KR> Mil-spec 6073 vs. any other wood

[Gary Robison]

I'll be interested to know

GR


- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Morehouse" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 24, 2010 12:02 AM
Subject: KR> Mil-spec 6073 vs. any other wood


> I've been reading articles about selecting and testing wood. Lots of good 
> info.
> Besides Sitka Spruce, Port Orford Cedar, Alaskan Yellow Cedar and Hemlock 
> are
> rated as good choices for airplanes. In fact, Eugene Parker wrote an 
> article for
> EAA in 1984(?) in which he ranked Sitka Spruce 3rd in his list of best 
> wood for
> airplanes, POC was number one, AYC was two. Googling POC comes up with
> BearCreekLumber.com. They're a half day's drive from me and quoted Sitka 
> Spruce
> to be 25% more expensive than any of the other three. But this isn't 
> mil-spec
> lumber. As I understand it, they can get very nice wood, but it would be 
> up to
> me to inspect and test it. I read on this board  how Harold Woods suggests 
> going
> about testing each piece by getting them a bit overwidth, ripping a piece 
> the
> full length of the board on both edges, and testing those pieces. Sounds
> straight forward, but does that mean it's as good as mil spec 6073?
>
> So if I buy from ACS or Wicks, I'll get mil spec 6073, which means that 
> some
> knowledgeable person thought this wood would be okay in an airplane. And 
> if I
> buy this mil spec wood, do I still need to go through all the elaborate 
> testing?
> If so, I'd end up with skinnier than called for wood, assuming they sell 
> it in
> the exact width called for.
>
> I'm all for saving money and it would be neat to build with POC, if it's 
> really
> top of the line. But I'm concerned that I may not be able to guarantee, 
> even by
> inspection and testing, that this uncertified wood is as good or better 
> than
> what a professional inspector has already deemed mil spec 6073 worthy. 
> I've
> never inspected wood in this manner and don't know how reliable my tests 
> would
> be. If buying certified wood removes all doubt about it's quality, the 
> several
> hundred dollars extra I'd pay for this may be worth it.
>
> How did you guys go about buying, inspecting, and testing your wood?
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
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KR> Question

[Gary Robison]

Thanks Mark

I will not be at the gathering this year, I spent my time and
money at Oshkosh and what a wonderful waste !!

I wish everyone a good time a great weather this year
see you next

Gary



>>That was I and here is the link: http://www.approach-systems.com/



>>>Last year at the Gathering someone had GPS software on a lap top
and I believe it was freeware. Where did that come from??


Gary Robison
Blairsville, PA 15717
Building KR -1.5ss
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KR> Question

[Gary Robison]

Last year at the Gathering someone had GPS software on a lap top
and I believe it was freeware. Where did that come from??


Gary Robison
Blairsville, PA 15717
Building KR -1.5ss
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KR> AS5048 airfoil

[GARY ROBISON]

I have the coordinates for the AS5048 from the kr net but I get a squiggle 
in them on the lower one at the leading edge

If some one has another set would you send them to me or post them ??


I am trying to get a print out of an intermediate foil at the waf's with my 
bent spars I bought the software and the AS5045
coordinates seem right but the 5048 is not (I took the "0" s off)

TNX

Gary

djgaryl...@verizon.net 

KR> Your Thoughts on my Thoughts

[GARY ROBISON]

Hi  Ron

If you imagine the dihedral bend in the front spar( "5)
beginning in the middle of the stub spar not at the WAF
which is what I want to do the bend will be 5/8 or
.625 the  height of the longeron when it passes that
point (15" from center a 30" overall width) no sweat
there it will fit nicely. The end of the spar will end up
right where it is supposed to, in the outer rib.

The rear spar instead of beginning it's forward travel
at the WAF ( destroying the area you would need for
more flap area) begins at the point it exits the fuselage.
It will end up at the exact same point in the outermost
rib, with the exact same twist. The rear spar will also
pick up it's dihedral bend inside the fuselage not at the
WAF it will need a just a tad more room as it needs
to raise 5 5/8"  it will be.7" as it passes the lower
longeron. I will need to shave .1" off the bottom of the
spar where it rests on the floor of the fuselage. I do
not believe that will hurt its structural strength.

All this is to get rid of the dog leg at the rear of
the wing so I can add a bunch more flap area. The trailing
edge will be strait as an arrow from the fuselage to the
wing tip. Holding the 5" front dihedral and 5 5/8" in
the rear spar.

Not near as complicated as it sounds.

And yes I will loose a small amount of wing area, very small.

I hope this give you a better picture of what I had in mind.

Gary

- Original Message - 
From: "Ron Smith" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:25 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Your Thoughts on my Thoughts




Ron Smith

KR2SSXL

Buckeye Arizona

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http://ronsmith.myphotoalbum.com/albums.php

Gary wrote:

That covers the front spar, the rear one is going to be a little more work.
I will require a dihedral

bend and one that sweeps it forward. My thought is to put the dihedral bend
inside and make the

bend forward just as it leaves the fuselage. Again top and bottom at the
same time in the same jig

one on top of the other.

Ron Smith wrote:

I don't know what you are talking about here. The rear spar is NOT swept 
forward in the center section. It sweeps forward in the outboard section.

Best regards,
Smitty
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KR> Your Thoughts on my Thoughts

[GARY ROBISON]

Hello all,

I have had my plans for a few weeks now and I am chewing on some ideas

that need to be addressed before I get started with the 88.

I really like the idea Mike suggested on his comment page.

Mikes thought was to incorporate the dihedral bend for the spars "inside" 
the fuselage.

Find it here: http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kopinion.html#bent

My thoughts are to do exactly that only not cut the caps into quarter inch 
strips, but to steam

and bend them with a jig holding the proper angle until set. Do them both at 
the same time,

sitting on top of each other, they would be exact complements. Once the 
vertical spreaders

and shear ply was glued on it should be as strong as the strait spar ever 
was.

That covers the front spar, the rear one is going to be a little more work. 
I will require a dihedral

bend and one that sweeps it forward. My thought is to put the dihedral bend 
inside and make the

bend forward just as it leaves the fuselage. Again top and bottom at the 
same time in the same jig

one on top of the other.

Talking to a few wood workers they seem to think the small angles would be a 
easy to do.

They suggested I practice on some clear tighter grain pine to get a feel for 
the small spring back that will occur.

Why?

For very little extra work I will be able to extend the flap area / sand and 
cover

the wing as one unit / it will look super!!!

Now I need to keep the WAF's for transport. This means I need to come up 
with the airfoil template for

those points along the spar.  I am not sure how to produce it?  Plus they 
will be slightly different on each side

of the WAFs . "here I need some help".  If you have an idea ... Light 
the way for me.



I am using the new airfoil with taller spars AS5048 and a AS5045 at the tip. 
Not sure if I am going to use the

extra length of 2s wing I need to think a bit more on that (comments 
welcome)

I will be stretching the fuselage 11" longer than the 2s but it will be 
single place 30" at the shoulders.



Long time ago (the third life time I think) I had a program that I paid a 
bunch of money for that would

lay out a model aircraft wings and airfoils. I still have it but it is on 
floppy ( have none in this machine)

and I think you could only unzip it 3 times. It would do full size airfoil 
templates. Maybe something like

that would work here.





You comments / criticisms (screams ignored)

Gary

KR> Corvair engine build

[GARY ROBISON]

John
What do you mean IF you were to build a KR?
You already are building a KR your doing it right now as you read this.
Start any part of it. Just get going.
Send for the plans. Just to drool over.
Buy an engine.(Corvair)(VW)
Your grandson will soon be old enough to help.(bet he can make great engine 
sounds!)
Lurking is good I lurk too.
When the flyers type
I lurk.

Learn more that way, I do.

Gary




- Original Message - 
From: "GARY ROBISON" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Corvair engine build


John . YOU can do this and you will enjoy it.

Get yourself Wynne's book and a Corvair shop manual (Ebay)
You will need the number of Clark's Corvair (parts)

If you do not wish to do any wild horse power increasing changes you can
handle it!

The only real tools you may have to buy or borrow are torque wrenches.

Keep it clean inside and out and you'll do fine. Lot'a help on here too!

Just a little bigger smile when you pull back on the stick.

I have two dissembled right now watching the 5th bearing crowd for any news.

(didn't we all do rambler heads?)

Check out Mark Langford's webpages also good info there also

Gary




- Original Message - 
From: "John Skorczewski" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 7:22 PM
Subject: KR> Corvair engine build



I`m a long time lurker and a short time member. I have seen the links for W
Wynne Corvair college, and seen the links to the many members with Corvair
engines. My question is this: how difficult is it to convert/rebuild a
Corvair engine if you are not an A&P or an engineer? My main engine
experience is replacing head gaskets on my high school Rambler station
wagon, (I`m so embarrassed!!!) about a hundred years ago. I do woodwork and
I work with my hands, but not on engines. Is this something I can tackle
myself or is it something I should farm out if I were to build a KR?

BTW- I`m the guy that was chasing my 3 yr. old grandson around at the Kr
gathering at MVN. :)

Thanks,Dr John Skorczewski, D.M.D.1325 Jefferson Dr. Nashville, IL 62263
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KR> Corvair engine build

[GARY ROBISON]

John . YOU can do this and you will enjoy it.

Get yourself Wynne's book and a Corvair shop manual (Ebay)
You will need the number of Clark's Corvair (parts)

If you do not wish to do any wild horse power increasing changes you can 
handle it!

The only real tools you may have to buy or borrow are torque wrenches.

Keep it clean inside and out and you'll do fine. Lot'a help on here too!

Just a little bigger smile when you pull back on the stick.

I have two dissembled right now watching the 5th bearing crowd for any news.

(didn't we all do rambler heads?)

Check out Mark Langford's webpages also good info there also

Gary




- Original Message - 
From: "John Skorczewski" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 7:22 PM
Subject: KR> Corvair engine build



I`m a long time lurker and a short time member. I have seen the links for W 
Wynne Corvair college, and seen the links to the many members with Corvair 
engines. My question is this: how difficult is it to convert/rebuild a 
Corvair engine if you are not an A&P or an engineer? My main engine 
experience is replacing head gaskets on my high school Rambler station 
wagon, (I`m so embarrassed!!!) about a hundred years ago. I do woodwork and 
I work with my hands, but not on engines. Is this something I can tackle 
myself or is it something I should farm out if I were to build a KR?

BTW- I`m the guy that was chasing my 3 yr. old grandson around at the Kr 
gathering at MVN. :)

Thanks,Dr John Skorczewski, D.M.D.1325 Jefferson Dr. Nashville, IL 62263
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KR> stobe light

[GARY ROBISON]

Don't know of Dave Baker but these should help


http://www.epanorama.net/circuits/strobo.html
http://members.misty.com/don/kmaxhack.html
http://www.tkk.fi/Misc/Electronics/circuits/strobo_12v.html
http://www3.telus.net/chemelec/Projects/Strobe/Strobe.htm


Lots'a ways to build strobe in there

Gary



- Original Message - 
From: 
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Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:25 AM
Subject: KR> stobe light


I was wondering if anyone know a Dave Baker?.  A few years ago he came up 
with a strobe light made from a Kodak camera , it was simple,  I would like 
to make one just to try it out . If you should know him or have a copy of 
his drawing I would like a copy..
Bob from Covington.Ga




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KR> eBay Motors: DRAWINGS of small double plane KR2 (???? ???????? KR2) (item 320310990235 end time Oct-22-08 12:50:34 PDT)

[GARY ROBISON]

It went off sale today but I reported it also

Gary


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From: "John Gotschall" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: KR> eBay Motors: DRAWINGS of small double plane KR2 ( 
 KR2) (item 320310990235 end time Oct-22-08 12:50:34 PDT)



I read it and reported it also.

can't hurt to let them know more than a few people noticed.

jg




On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 22:20 -0400, Randy Powell wrote:
> This listing on Ebay has been reported to Ebay as the sole intellectual 
> property of Rand Robinson.   It is just plain wrong .
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Parts-Accessories_Aviation-Parts-Gear__DRAWINGS-of-small-double-plane-KR2-KR2_W0QQitemZ320310990235QQddnZPartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQadnZAviationQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20GearQQddiZ2811QQadiZ2877QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item320310990235&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C65%3A10%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245
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