Re: KR> N1436 on display

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

Is 2022 the 50th anniversary of Ken Rand debuted the KR at Oshkosh?
Pete Klapp, N729PK 

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> On Mar 1, 2021, at 8:48 PM, Flesner via KRnet  wrote:
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> On 3/1/2021 7:32 PM, John Bouyea wrote:
>> I don't know EAA's plans yet for Oshkosh/ AirVenture 2021.
> 
> 
> 
> I seem to recall that Airventure is on for this year in some form but 
> wouldn't swear to it.  I'd suggest any and all efforts be directed to 
> Airventure 2022 for the 50th.
> 
> Larry Flesner
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KR> Wheel Pants

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

Netters
Does anyone know if John Backer is still making wheel pants?
If so if anyone has his contact info it would be greatly appreciated. A local 
builder is looking for wheel pants for his project.
Thanks I’m advance for my help you can provide,
Pete Klapp, N729PK 

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Re: KR> First flight of 722KC

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

Congratulations you are now part of an exclusive club!!
Pete Klapp 

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> On Dec 10, 2020, at 3:19 PM, Steve Wattnem via KRnet  
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> Congrats Chris, it must have been a thrill.
> Steve Wattnem
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>> On Dec 10, 2020, at 1:20 PM, jeb via KRnet  wrote:
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>> well done, working a bit on mine, but two puppies and winter/covid slowing 
>> me down
>> 
>>>> On 12/10/20 12:06 PM, Chris Pryce via KRnet wrote:
>>> Net heads,
>>> 
>>> 722KC took to the skies for the first time today. I got a solid 45 minute
>>> flight and a lucky greaser of a landing. I have a small oil leak to fix but
>>> overall a great flying airplane.
>>> 
>>> Chris Pryce
>>> Vacaville, CA
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Re: KR> Pete Klapp's First Flight Photo

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

The step is made from 1-1/4” streamline tubing. I reinforced the truss side 
with 3/32”ply between the truss vertical and the bottom crossmember with a 
5/8”thick mounting area on the inside of the side skin ply. It’s super strong.

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> On Nov 22, 2020, at 2:39 AM, Phillip Matheson via KRnet 
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> Well done Pete. Nice KR. 
> What is the step off or made from. 
> Phil Matheson 
> Australia 
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>> On 22 Nov 2020, at 12:19, Pete Klapp via KRnet  wrote:
>> 
>> There’s a plywood reinforcement between the fuselage bottom and side truss, 
>> really solid
>> Pete 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>> On Nov 21, 2020, at 7:16 PM, Flesner via KRnet  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/21/2020 5:29 PM, John Bouyea via KRnet wrote:
>>>>> Bigger than a RV grin!
>>>>> 
>>>>> _
>>> 
>>> +++
>>> 
>>> Nice looking bird !! More photos please..and performance numbers?.
>>> 
>>> That's a pretty long arm on the entry step.  I hope that doesn't put too 
>>> much stress on the attach and pull out.
>>> 
>>> Larry Flesner
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Re: KR> Pete Klapp's First Flight Photo

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

There’s a plywood reinforcement between the fuselage bottom and side truss, 
really solid
Pete 

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> On Nov 21, 2020, at 7:16 PM, Flesner via KRnet  wrote:
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> On 11/21/2020 5:29 PM, John Bouyea via KRnet wrote:
>> Bigger than a RV grin!
>> 
>>   _
> 
> +++
> 
> Nice looking bird !! More photos please..and performance numbers?.
> 
> That's a pretty long arm on the entry step.  I hope that doesn't put too much 
> stress on the attach and pull out.
> 
> Larry Flesner
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Re: KR> First Flight N729PK

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

Robert
I have my plane at Wadsworth Muni (3G3). You are welcome to stop by. my cell is 
330-388-2074.
Pete


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I am from Massillon, I am building a KR2S that I purchased as an unfinished 
project. What Airport are you fling out of?

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> Netters
>
> YEE HAH! Yet another KR-2S has joined the flying fleet!!! Flew for
> about one hour twenty minutes. Yes KR's are pitch sensitive but we were
> able to adjust. Returned to Mother Earth no worse for wear and tear. Will
> repeat as weather permits.
>
> Pete Klapp, N729PK,
> Canton, OH (330)-388-2074
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KR> First Flight N729PK

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

Netters

YEE HAH!  Yet another KR-2S has joined the flying fleet!!! Flew for about 
one hour twenty minutes. Yes KR's are pitch sensitive but we were able to 
adjust. Returned to Mother Earth no worse for wear and tear. Will repeat as 
weather permits.

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Canton, OH  (330)-388-2074
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Re: KR> Riv-nuts / poly-nuts

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

Larry
How about going to a slightly larger metric size and retapping that hole. Mark 
Langford went to 10 mm WAF bolts when 3/8" were too loose.
He reamed them slightly larger for the 10 mm. Just a thought.
Pete Klapp


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On 10/27/2020 8:05 AM, Flesner via KRnet wrote:
> I have zero access to the inside.  That's my dilemma.

+++

I'm surprised that no one has suggested just rotating the sender and
drilling and tapping new holes.  I'm holding that one in reserve.

Larry Flesner


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KR> Condition Inspection

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

Netters
I’m hopeful that someone has a KR specific condition inspection checklist that 
they can send me. I had one, I think came from Rob Schmitt but I can’t find it. 
I’m meeting with the local FSDO people for my repairman’s certificate this week 
and would like to show them a checklist. Any help would be greatly appreciated. 
Thanks in advance for your help, 
Pete Klapp, Canton, Oh
330-388-2074

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Re: KR> Projects for sale

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

See if the local EAA would take them for a tax write off. That’s how I got my 
project.
Pete Klapp

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It’s getting close to just trashing these projects.  I’m at the time of my life 
where I to clean up my projects.  Make a reasonable offer.


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KR> Check lists

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

Hoping that other KR drivers have made checklists for preflight, takeoff and 
landing that I can use as a starting point. Have about reached the point of no 
more excuses!!! Have corrected issues with the brake pedals (two designs before 
success), carburetor mixture  and a redesign of the nose gear to eliminate a 
bad shimmy issue.
Pete Klapp,N729PK 
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Re: KR> Auto fuel compatibility

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

I have to agree. To avoid any problems I made my tanks (22 gallons total) from 
0.040 aluminum so I can use either mogas or 100 LL. 

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> On Feb 4, 2020, at 2:08 PM, Rob Schmitt via KRnet  
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> 
> I think this is a bad idea (aluminum foil). The foil could come loose and
> potentially clog the strainer, filters, etc. 
> 
> Rob Schmitt
> N1852Z
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> I would never trust that to keep the fuel from getting around the edges. If
> have to use a vulnerable resin and the fuel it may be vulnerable to, better
> to slosh with known reliable barrier.
> 
>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 3:34 AM Mike T via KRnet 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> An idea occurred to me about that: suppose you use vinylester to lay 
>> up one or two layers of heavy-duty aluminum foil on the inside of the 
>> tank?  I've read that vinylester is the most ethanol resistant, and if 
>> the layers are aluminum the gas could only attack the seams.  (And the 
>> seams could be folded over for further protection.  This would 
>> essentially give you a fiberglass tank with the fuel resistance of an
> aluminum tank.
>> 
>> 
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Re: KR> VLOG update on N886MJ

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Try Airplane Plastics, Tipp City, Ohio. I bought my Dragon Fly canopy for $375 
above 7years ago which when I recd it turned out to be a Todd’s canopy which if 
I had gone directly to them I could have gotten for $25 less!! Todd’s is still 
in business even though he was killed in a plane wreck several years ago. The 
inventory of available canopies is priced around $600/ $700.

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> On Jan 23, 2020, at 12:49 AM, Luis Claudio via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
>  Awesome job Craig... truly an inspiration
> Luis R Claudio KR2s N8981S Dallas, Texas
>On Wednesday, January 22, 2020, 09:15:23 PM CST, Craig Williams via KRnet 
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> https://youtu.be/zFlQjcqtI_8
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Re: KR> ADS-B out opt out

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

There are ways around an electrical system. One of my fellow EAA chapter 
members flies a Champ, it has a starter and micro 760 radio which are powered 
by stand alone battery. There is no engine run alternator, they just charge the 
battery after each flight.  Seems to work fine, engine is a c75 which starts 
easily and the radio draw is minimal.

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I'll bite! I am refurbishing the Kr2 Dumbo. Took off the worn out vw
engine. Replacing the retract gear with fixed gear. A continental C-85-8
engine is going on the front. Its an 85 with the 85 cam, o-200 crank, rods
and NFS 10:1 high compression pistons. Only 93 octane or higher will go in
it. I'll have a Odessy battery to power handheld radio and my $150 av8r
GPS. Back up would be Avare on the cell phone. This airplane is for fun and
not atrue cross country plane. Of course I guess it could be. I like
dependability and being able to fly safely down low where's you see the
people and the sights. As for a starter I guess I'll have to buy a Trunk
Monkey!  I've heard they have had a recall on them so I may have to
improvise a home made starter. I'm not an educated man, so don't do this at
home. This is not my main ride.

On Sat, Jan 18, 2020, 1:13 PM Kayak via KRnet  wrote:

> Wow I am surprised no one has anything to say about this one. I will
> try and dig up a summary on what the downsides would be, May be nice
> to be old school, just a handheld vhf and handheld gps... (smartphone
> app)
>
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 9:57 PM Kayak via KRnet 
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> >
> > My project will have no engine driven charging system, which makes
> > ads-b out optional (I may opt in just the same but not being in a
> > matrix and having my every movement viewable online holds some
> > appeal).
> >
> > What are the downsides to this? Is some airspace completely off limits
> > for example, or is just a matter of requesting entry?
> >
> > Just thought this angle may be a good topic for discussion and benefit
> > future projects.
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Re: KR> Alright guys, it's time.....

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

Damn auto correct, it should have read “longerons” not longer ones

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> On Oct 14, 2019, at 9:42 PM, Pete Klapp via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> The wood package supplied by Wicks comes with 14’ material for the longer 
> one. I used all 14’ on my plane. It will help with pitch control. As most 
> KR’s are heavier, 100 hp has become the preferred amount, O-200 or 3 liter 
> Corvair.
> 
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>>> On Oct 14, 2019, at 7:43 AM, Mark Langford via KRnet  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sam Spanovich wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've decided it is time to start looking into building my very own KR2S
>> 
>> Sounds like a greatplan to me, even the tri-gear! I may have to do that
>> on N56ML as well, simply because the airport I fly out of is short and
>> more importantly, only 40' wide. Our runway lights are high, and can
>> inflict some serious damage if we run off the runway.
>> 
>> One thing I would add to your plan is to add one extra bay to the back,
>> like the Pesak/Sylvester/Ballman planes, which in my mind have become
>> the standard bearers for the future of the KR series.  I'd also keep the
>> dark colors to a minimummaybe reduce it to some side trim.
>> 
>> Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
>> ML "at" N56ML.com
>> www.N56ML.com
>> 
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Re: KR> Alright guys, it's time.....

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

The wood package supplied by Wicks comes with 14’ material for the longer one. 
I used all 14’ on my plane. It will help with pitch control. As most KR’s are 
heavier, 100 hp has become the preferred amount, O-200 or 3 liter Corvair.

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> On Oct 14, 2019, at 7:43 AM, Mark Langford via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> Sam Spanovich wrote:
> 
>> I've decided it is time to start looking into building my very own KR2S
> 
> Sounds like a greatplan to me, even the tri-gear! I may have to do that
> on N56ML as well, simply because the airport I fly out of is short and
> more importantly, only 40' wide. Our runway lights are high, and can
> inflict some serious damage if we run off the runway.
> 
> One thing I would add to your plan is to add one extra bay to the back,
> like the Pesak/Sylvester/Ballman planes, which in my mind have become
> the standard bearers for the future of the KR series.  I'd also keep the
> dark colors to a minimummaybe reduce it to some side trim.
> 
> Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
> ML "at" N56ML.com
> www.N56ML.com
> 
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Re: KR> Phase 1 testing

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

Thanks Mike, I’ll do my best

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Subject: Re: KR> Phase 1 testing

Pete, This is great news, Congrats. The only advice I have is what everyone 
told me and it kept me from pounding mine into the ground. Until you get 
comfortable you'll probably land a bit hot and on touchdown she will more than 
likely bounce. If this happens, do not move the stick, with the power off and 
the drag out it will settle back down. If you chase the bounce and try to force 
it down, You'll come down hard on the nose gear. Good luck, we're pulling for 
you.

Mike Sylvester
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Subject: KR> Phase 1 testing

Netters
That time had finally come as the FAA will be coming on Thursday this week the 
inspect and hopefully bless N729PK!!  So now comes flight testing which has me 
in a quandary as I'm being advised not to conduct the first flight myself as I 
am too invested in the plane having spent over a decade building it. I have 
been taking dual instruction to knock the rust off my flying skills, but 
unfortunately it's in a 172.  There is nothing close a a KR anywhere near the 
area. Is there anyone in the KR community to assist me as a start Phase 1? Any 
and all assistance and advise would be GREATLY appreciated.
Hopeful in Ohio,
Pete Klapp, N729PK
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Re: KR> Phase One testing

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

Rick
Have the EAA test manual and am reading it at this very moment. Thanks
Pete

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From: Richard Human 
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 6:44:13 PM
To: 'KRnet'
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Subject: Phase One testing

Pete - if you have not obtained the new EAA publication on flight testing -
by all means do so - it is VERY GOOD and lays out a structured program
including flight test cards. By the end of the Phase One test period you
will know the aircraft and have a POH as well.

I also recommend that all the other KR pilots out there consider buying one
as well to further document your aircraft.

Rick Human
KR-2 N202RH
Houston, TX

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Re: KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 7, Issue 148

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

Rick
I have my plane at Wadsworth (3G3) and am about to start doing some taxing to 
seat the brakes and get comfortable with differential braking for ground 
handling. Any help you can offer would be great. I currently weigh in at 215 
lbs and trying to lose another 15lbs.
Pete 

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> On Jun 24, 2019, at 3:32 PM, Richard Lanning via KRnet  
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> 
> Pete
> This is Rick Lanning in new Lexington ohio I have 65 hours on my kr 2 now 
> with the Corvairs 3000 now it is doing well I have gave one ride to a fellow 
> that weighed 150 pads not sure how much you weigh but if I could give a ride 
> I would be glad I put 200 pds of lead and went up with no problem my plane is 
> heavy though let me know if I can help.
> 
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>> Netters
>> That time had finally come as the FAA will be coming on Thursday this week 
>> the inspect and hopefully bless N729PK!!  So now comes flight testing which 
>> has me in a quandary as I'm being advised not to conduct the first flight 
>> myself as I am too invested in the plane having spent over a decade building 
>> it. I have been taking dual instruction to knock the rust off my flying 
>> skills, but unfortunately it's in a 172.  There is nothing close a a KR 
>> anywhere near the area. Is there anyone in the KR community to assist me as 
>> a start Phase 1? Any and all assistance and advise would be GREATLY 
>> appreciated.
>> Hopeful in Ohio,
>> Pete Klapp, N729PK
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KR> Phase 1 testing

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

Netters
That time had finally come as the FAA will be coming on Thursday this week the 
inspect and hopefully bless N729PK!!  So now comes flight testing which has me 
in a quandary as I'm being advised not to conduct the first flight myself as I 
am too invested in the plane having spent over a decade building it. I have 
been taking dual instruction to knock the rust off my flying skills, but 
unfortunately it's in a 172.  There is nothing close a a KR anywhere near the 
area. Is there anyone in the KR community to assist me as a start Phase 1? Any 
and all assistance and advise would be GREATLY appreciated.
Hopeful in Ohio,
Pete Klapp, N729PK
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Re: KR> VW engine fogger

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

Just remembered that Stabil makes a fogging oil for storage of 2 cycle engines 
that spray
int0 the intake prior to shutdown for storage, probably would be okay for 4 
cycle engines as well.
Pete Klapp

From: KRnet  on behalf of Jeff Scott via KRnet 

Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 10:46 PM
To: krnet@list.krnet.org
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Subject: Re: KR> VW engine fogger

When I pickle engines, I fog the upper part of the cylinders and the crankcases 
using a siphon type solvent gun and polyfiber engine storage oil.
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The top of the cylinders is kind of obvious, but fogging the crankcase you want 
to make sure you are flowing the fogging oil through the crankcase from one end 
to the other to ensure a thorough coating.  Often times I use the oil filler 
neck and the breather tube.  Spray fog in one until you are getting a good flow 
of oil fog out the other, then switch and flow it the other direction.

-Jeff Scott
North AR


> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 at 4:46 PM
> From: "Mike Stirewalt via KRnet" 
> To: krnet@list.krnet.org
> Cc: laser...@juno.com
> Subject: KR> VW engine fogger
>
> I'm imagining a spray can that could be screwed into the oil cap threads
> of the GPAS Type 1 VW engine.  Or, instead of something that fits the
> threads of the oil breather box, something just held in place by hand
> pressure for the short time it would take to "fog" the inside of the
> engine - that part of it below the pistons.  I DO have a can of "fogging
> oil" that I bought I don't remember where.  NAPA probably.
>
> Seems like this would be a good thing to do before running an engine that
> hasn't run in quite a while, or an engine that is being pickled.  Seems
> like this oil fog would coat everything that is not already covered in
> oil.  I'm thinking especially of cam lobes.
>
> Does anyone know of a particular product (like Cam Guard) that's designed
> for this sort of thing?
>
> Another thought - a fitting that would fit a compressor hose that would
> mix air with a bottle of oil, something like we have as a standard
> attachment to a normal pressure washer?  The compressor would be pushing
> air while sucking up oil from a small bottle of oil thus making an misted
> oil spray that could be aimed into the breather box oil entrance hole?
>
> A pressure washer puts out too much pressure to be suitable for what I've
> got in mind, but without checking to see, it may be possible to turn down
> the pressure low enough to make this a reasonable idea.  The crankcase
> breather type would relieve excess pressure as long as pressure wasn't
> ridiculously high.  Maybe a small garden sprayer is a better idea.  It
> could be pumped up to high pressure and inserted into the oil breather
> opening.
>
> A WD-40-sized can is more what I've got in mind but I'm just going
> through ideas in my head - the objective being to blow an oil mist into
> the insides of the engine to thoroughly coat everything below the
> pistons.  The parts of the cylinders above the pistons can be gotten to
> through the spark plug holes.
>
> Anybody ever done anything like this and, if so, did you use "fogging
> oil" or just regular oil combined with some kind of anti-corrosion
> product?
>
> I'd appreciate any thoughts anyone has.  Meanwhile I'll prowl around the
> internet to see what engine manufacturers do when they prepare an engine
> for long periods of sitting, as for shelving in the warehouse as reserve
> stock.
>
> "Cosmoline" pops into my mind as I think about this but I'm thinking this
> is a product used on the exterior of an engine or other machine.
>
> Mike Stirewalt
> KSEE
>
>
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Re: KR> VW engine fogger

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

Most professional paint distributors (those who sell paint to body shops)  can 
put paint into spray cans for minor touch-up. Maybe they can do the same with 
your choice of oil protectorant.
Pete Klapp


From: KRnet  on behalf of Mike Stirewalt via 
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Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 5:46 PM
To: krnet@list.krnet.org
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Subject: KR> VW engine fogger

I'm imagining a spray can that could be screwed into the oil cap threads
of the GPAS Type 1 VW engine.  Or, instead of something that fits the
threads of the oil breather box, something just held in place by hand
pressure for the short time it would take to "fog" the inside of the
engine - that part of it below the pistons.  I DO have a can of "fogging
oil" that I bought I don't remember where.  NAPA probably.

Seems like this would be a good thing to do before running an engine that
hasn't run in quite a while, or an engine that is being pickled.  Seems
like this oil fog would coat everything that is not already covered in
oil.  I'm thinking especially of cam lobes.

Does anyone know of a particular product (like Cam Guard) that's designed
for this sort of thing?

Another thought - a fitting that would fit a compressor hose that would
mix air with a bottle of oil, something like we have as a standard
attachment to a normal pressure washer?  The compressor would be pushing
air while sucking up oil from a small bottle of oil thus making an misted
oil spray that could be aimed into the breather box oil entrance hole?

A pressure washer puts out too much pressure to be suitable for what I've
got in mind, but without checking to see, it may be possible to turn down
the pressure low enough to make this a reasonable idea.  The crankcase
breather type would relieve excess pressure as long as pressure wasn't
ridiculously high.  Maybe a small garden sprayer is a better idea.  It
could be pumped up to high pressure and inserted into the oil breather
opening.

A WD-40-sized can is more what I've got in mind but I'm just going
through ideas in my head - the objective being to blow an oil mist into
the insides of the engine to thoroughly coat everything below the
pistons.  The parts of the cylinders above the pistons can be gotten to
through the spark plug holes.

Anybody ever done anything like this and, if so, did you use "fogging
oil" or just regular oil combined with some kind of anti-corrosion
product?

I'd appreciate any thoughts anyone has.  Meanwhile I'll prowl around the
internet to see what engine manufacturers do when they prepare an engine
for long periods of sitting, as for shelving in the warehouse as reserve
stock.

"Cosmoline" pops into my mind as I think about this but I'm thinking this
is a product used on the exterior of an engine or other machine.

Mike Stirewalt
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Re: KR> RPM source for use with Dynon Skyview

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

Thanks again, that’s good information

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From: KRnet  on behalf of Jeff Scott via KRnet 

Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 10:32:36 PM
To: krnet@list.krnet.org
Cc: Jeff Scott
Subject: Re: KR> RPM source for use with Dynon Skyview

Electric tachs have been known to short, which would take down the ignition 
coil it's tied to.  I've experienced that first hand.  However, you are wiring 
to a Dynon unit, and Dynon already thought of that.  That's why they recommend 
using a 30 kΩ "pull up" resistor.  The Dynon unit isn't going to draw any 
current as it only reads signal voltage and requires virtually no amperage.  A 
30 kΩ resistor as shown in the installation manual should keep a shorted tach 
from taking down the ignition.  That's why Dynon recommends using the resistor. 
 It protects the Dynon from the ignition, and the ignition from the Dynon unit, 
but still allows the Dynon to read the voltage switching up and down at the 
ground side of the coil. If you are concerned about the wire getting shorted, 
put the resistor right at the - terminal of the coil.  If you do the math on 
the 30 kΩ resistor at 12V, it only allows .0004 of an amp (4 ten thousandths of 
an amp) of current to pass through.  That isn't going to affect the ignition if 
you had a dead short on the tach side of the resistor.

Hope this explains the installation well enough.

-Jeff Scott


> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 at 7:57 PM
> From: "Pete Klapp via KRnet" 
> To: KRnet 
> Cc: "Pete Klapp" 
> Subject: Re: KR> RPM source for use with Dynon Skyview
>
> Thanks Joe I’ll chew on this info before doing anything
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 24, 2019, at 11:07 AM, n357cj via KRnet  wrote:
> >
> > HI Pete/Jeff,
> >   I was not going to post to this thread but here I am. I have my EIS wired 
> >  as noted from the negative of the coils (daul). i have a small toggle 
> > swithch right next to the tach on the panel when I switch ignitions I have 
> > to switch the signal to the EIS also to have a reading. I wired it this way 
> > as it was the most common way when I was growing up working on cars. I 
> > understood as Jeff has re-confirmed that it is basicly the way a mag works 
> > also. The disclaimer is that William Wynn strongly (my word) urges a 
> > alternate method, usually a tooth counter, to drive the tach. Granted this 
> > would elminate my need for the swich on the panel. The caution that I 
> > undersatand is the possibility/fear of a short in the wire from the tach or 
> > the instrument that takes the coil out and there by stopping the fan up 
> > front. Just because it hasn't happened does it mean it won't. So decide fro 
> > yourselves the best method.
> > Joe Horton,
> > N357CJ
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "KRnet" 
> > To: "KRnet" 
> > Cc: "Jeff Scott" 
> > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 10:11:25 AM
> > Subject: Re: KR> RPM source for use with Dynon Skyview
> >
> > It occurred to me last night while I was working through some wiring 
> > diagrams for an ignition problem that I put an error in this advice to 
> > Pete.  It is always the - (ground) side of the ignition coil that is 
> > switched, so it is the - side of the ignition coil that would be used as a 
> > tach signal and the equivalent of the "P-lead" from a magneto as a source 
> > for wiring the tach signal.  I'm surprised about a half a dozen of the 
> > scholars here didn't correct me.
> >
> > -Jeff Scott
> >
> > -
> >
> >> Pete,
> >>
> >> I've not wired a Dynon, but in your case, I would assume the + side of an 
> >> ignition coil to be the equivalent of the P-lead on a magneto. The voltage 
> >> on the primary side of your coil may be a bit lower than the voltage on a 
> >> P-lead, but I would use a 30 kΩ "pull up" resistor the same as instructed 
> >> to connect a "P-lead" and go from there using the same instructions as 
> >> outlined for connecting to a "P-lead", then configure for a 6 cyl engine.  
> >> The pulse count should be the same as any 6 cyl Continental or Lycoming 
> >> firing from a magneto.
> >>
> >> -Jeff Scott
> > -
> >
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Re: KR> RPM source for use with Dynon Skyview

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

Thanks Joe I’ll chew on this info before doing anything 

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> On Mar 24, 2019, at 11:07 AM, n357cj via KRnet  wrote:
> 
> HI Pete/Jeff,
>   I was not going to post to this thread but here I am. I have my EIS wired  
> as noted from the negative of the coils (daul). i have a small toggle swithch 
> right next to the tach on the panel when I switch ignitions I have to switch 
> the signal to the EIS also to have a reading. I wired it this way as it was 
> the most common way when I was growing up working on cars. I understood as 
> Jeff has re-confirmed that it is basicly the way a mag works also. The 
> disclaimer is that William Wynn strongly (my word) urges a alternate method, 
> usually a tooth counter, to drive the tach. Granted this would elminate my 
> need for the swich on the panel. The caution that I undersatand is the 
> possibility/fear of a short in the wire from the tach or the instrument that 
> takes the coil out and there by stopping the fan up front. Just because it 
> hasn't happened does it mean it won't. So decide fro yourselves the best 
> method.
> Joe Horton,
> N357CJ
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "KRnet" 
> To: "KRnet" 
> Cc: "Jeff Scott" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 10:11:25 AM
> Subject: Re: KR> RPM source for use with Dynon Skyview
> 
> It occurred to me last night while I was working through some wiring diagrams 
> for an ignition problem that I put an error in this advice to Pete.  It is 
> always the - (ground) side of the ignition coil that is switched, so it is 
> the - side of the ignition coil that would be used as a tach signal and the 
> equivalent of the "P-lead" from a magneto as a source for wiring the tach 
> signal.  I'm surprised about a half a dozen of the scholars here didn't 
> correct me.
> 
> -Jeff Scott
> 
> -
> 
>> Pete,
>> 
>> I've not wired a Dynon, but in your case, I would assume the + side of an 
>> ignition coil to be the equivalent of the P-lead on a magneto. The voltage 
>> on the primary side of your coil may be a bit lower than the voltage on a 
>> P-lead, but I would use a 30 kΩ "pull up" resistor the same as instructed to 
>> connect a "P-lead" and go from there using the same instructions as outlined 
>> for connecting to a "P-lead", then configure for a 6 cyl engine.  The pulse 
>> count should be the same as any 6 cyl Continental or Lycoming firing from a 
>> magneto.
>> 
>> -Jeff Scott
> -
> 
>> 
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Re: KR> RPM source for use with Dynon Skyview

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

Jeff
Thanks for the info. That’s a good idea and starting point 

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> On Mar 22, 2019, at 9:13 PM, Jeff Scott via KRnet  
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> 
>> Subject: KR> RPM source for use with Dynon Skyview
>> 
>> Netters
>> Need to find out what others have used as a rpm source that works with a 
>> Dynon Skyview. The manual I have dated September 2013 for use with firmware 
>> version 7 is not very specific. I know that William has suggested a flywheel 
>> tooth counter like the Stewart automotive. Is there any other ways to pick 
>> up a signal. I am using a 3.0 liter Corvair as my engine. Can I get a signal 
>> form the coils or the dual electronic pickups in my distributor? Any light 
>> that you can shed would be helpful.
>> Pete Klapp
> 
>> 
> -
> 
> Pete,
> 
> I've not wired a Dynon, but in your case, I would assume the + side of an 
> ignition coil to be the equivalent of the P-lead on a magneto. The voltage on 
> the primary side of your coil may be a bit lower than the voltage on a 
> P-lead, but I would use a 30 kΩ "pull up" resistor the same as instructed to 
> connect a "P-lead" and go from there using the same instructions as outlined 
> for connecting to a "P-lead", then configure for a 6 cyl engine.  The pulse 
> count should be the same as any 6 cyl Continental or Lycoming firing from a 
> magneto.
> 
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KR> RPM source for use with Dynon Skyview

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

Netters
Need to find out what others have used as a rpm source that works with a Dynon 
Skyview. The manual I have dated September 2013 for use with firmware version 7 
is not very specific. I know that William has suggested a flywheel tooth 
counter like the Stewart automotive. Is there any other ways to pick up a 
signal. I am using a 3.0 liter Corvair as my engine. Can I get a signal form 
the coils or the dual electronic pickups in my distributor? Any light that you 
can shed would be helpful.
Pete Klapp
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KR> Elevator and rudder cable tension

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

Netters
Any thoughts on cable tension? All cables both elevator and rudder are straight 
pulls, no pulleys in the systems.
Any information gladly appreciated, thanks in advance.
Pete Klapp, N729PK
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Re: KR> Status of N729PK

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

Mike
Finishing minor wiring changes for the comm, detailing spinner, adding some 
closure trim to the air plenum. Most everything else is complete, engine done 
and dyno'd, will be moving to the airport in April. Dynon Skyview still needs 
to be programmed, but my son will be helping with that soon. Hopefully testing 
will go off without too many issues.
Pete


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Subject: KR> Pete Klapp

Pete Klapp, I see you're planning on flying to the Gathering in the KR. Well in 
that case, How about a progress update ? How long to maiden voyage ? Looking 
forward to some details.

Mike Sylvester
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KR> Prop bolts and nuts

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

Netters

Are there specific nuts and bolts that should be used or are standard AN bolts 
and MS17826 self locking castle nuts okay for experimental use. I know that 
specific bolts are called out for certified engine / prop combinations.

Pete Klapp
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KR> Info needed to size a prop???

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Netters

The time has come to purchase a prop for me project. Not sure which one I will 
purchase (Sensnich, Prince, Sterba) but I'm not sure what info is needed. 
My engine is a 3.0 liter Corvair that dyno'd at 95 HP at 3100 RPM which will 
probably be WOT for take-off. what other info do I need to supply to a prop 
manufacturer.

Pete Klapp, almost done building N729PK,

Canton, OH
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Re: KR> Mogas Blues.

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

Netters

Does anyone know of a particular fuel hose that is not affected by 
ethanol-laced fuel. I need to find a suitable hose to complete my fuel line to 
the Ellison fuel injector.

Pete Klapp



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Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2018 3:42 PM
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Subject: Re: KR> Mogas Blues.

  See enclosed photo of what some
chemicals can to do high quality aircraft hose, not to mention carbs,
pumps, etc.


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Re: KR> Procedure

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

Jeff

I tried to access your POH pdf twice, but only got an error message?? Could 
there be an error in the address?

Pete Klapp



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Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 10:39 AM
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The DAR/FAA would like to see that you have a POH for your plane.  I never had 
one for my KR until a few years ago when I finished the SuperCub and wrote one 
for it, then decided I should do the same for the KR.  It's just a document and 
as Stephen says, you'll want to review and update it periodically, especially 
while you are testing/learning the plane.  I copied the one Rob Schmitt had on 
his web site and graciously allowed me to use as a template, then rewrote it 
for my KR.  You're welcome to  do the same from mine.  
<http://jeffsplanes.com/KR/N1213W POH.pdf>  You should be able to easily 
convert the .pdf back to a MSWord document.

The reality is, in planes as simple as the the ones I fly, I keep the 
checklists in my head.  In an emergency situation in a KR, things happen way 
too fast to be trying to read a POH.  But I also find that my head apparently 
leaks as I have departed with the canopy unlatched and the cowl flap in the 
wrong position on more than one occasion, so a checklist card mounted in the 
cockpit wouldn't be a bad thing.

-Jeff Scott
Cherokee Village, AR



Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 7:52 AM
From: "Ken Hurley via KRnet" 
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Subject: KR> Procedure
What do you have for a check list for preflight, engine start up, in flight
emergencies, landing, shut down, and parking (did I list everything?)? Are
they all in your head it on paper?

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Re: KR> Gathering hotel

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Larry

I checked Trivago and $68 + taxes / fees is the best price. I'm not sure if I'm 
flying in and getting a rental or driving 11+ hours. Need to check flights, but 
I'm probably going with Comfort Inn no matter how I get there.

Pete Klapp



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>  Just up the road a mile or two from the airport,  is a Comfort Inn
> & Suites for $68 per night + taxes, I'm sure, but a big difference
> for three nights.

+

That would be the Comfort Inn a t 3701 Ralph Powell Rd, Lee's
Summit.  Phone 816 554 6688


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Re: KR> 20 years...

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

The KR2 fuselage measures approx. 10'-6" from firewall to the stern post, and 
the KR2S is 12'-2" if that helps.

Pete Klapp



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Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 8:29 PM
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Mine is still in production lol.
I need to find a way of identifying which model I have though.
I got it from a friends hanger without a manual or drawings.

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> While Larry is finally getting his engine back together and chomping at the 
> bit to get back in the air, I just started the annual condition inspection on 
> my KR.  This year's annual marks 20 years since it was granted an 
> airworthiness certificate and I started flying it.  The plane currently has 
> 1140 hrs on the airframe, but this year I hit an all time low of 30 hours of 
> flight time in the KR.  :o(   But, with retirement just over the horizon, I'm 
> in hopes the flying time will really pick up in the not too distant future.
>
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Re: KR> Cables and Nico press sleeves.

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While everyone is barking . Speaking of barking, are the Japanese two 
headed monsters still holding you hostage in their lovely country???
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Canton, Ohio


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Re: KR> Dynon Duel Band ADS-B

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Paul

Can you forward that email to the Kr group so we can see what they are offering.

Pete Klapp



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Just got an email from Dynon.  They now have a dual band a ADS-B receiver.  I 
guess we talk some sence  into Kirk at the McMinnville gathering.


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Re: KR> Cowling exit design

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Mark

A number of years ago when Rich Shirley was at Oshkosh and was having 
overheating issues with the Jabiru 3300 in his KR-1, I went to a seminar given 
by a German aerodynamisist to see if I could learn anything useful. She stated 
that cowl cheeks low on the sides was best location. Short of that, the lower 
outboard corners would be the next best place. But somehow, I couldn't remember 
what she said about the ratio of inlet vs. outlet areas.



Subject: Re: Cowling exit design

Pete,

Google "thorp aircraft cooling exit area ratio" and you'll get some
pretty good hits on this.  The ratios vary wildly, from 1:1 to 1:1.3 on
the Van's Air Force site thread at the top.
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>
> Thanks, I'll try to do the curved outlet as my stainless firewall does
> come down.
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: Cowling exit design
>
> I thought it was 1.3 x inlet area for fast airplanes, according to
> Thorp, I believe it was, but I'm not sure I trust my memory either.  I
> don't think you could go wrong with 1.5 though, and that's on the safe
> side.  Try to implement a curved guide at the bottom of the firewall
> like Troy did,

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KR> Cowling Cooling Air design

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

Netters

I working on the lower half of my cowling and need to know the multiplier to 
size the exit area. I vaguely remember that the exit area should be approx. 1.5 
times the total size of the inlet area. Need to qualify that memory. I have 
Tony Bingelis' "Firewal Forward" book, but can't find that multiplier listed 
anywhere.

Any help or info greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Pete Klapp, building N729PK,

Canton, Ohio
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Re: KR> Elevator travel

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

Netters

Check page 59 in the manual. Aileron is +20 and -10 deg, Elevator is +30 and 
-20 deg, and the Rudder is +30 deg left and right.

Pete Klapp, building N729PK,

Canton, Ohio



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I not totally sure. I think it's 20 up and 10 down.

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KR> wing tank building material - vinyl ester

[Pete Klapp]

Joe
Try PBS boat store for vinyl ester. I remember that it was less than $100
Pete Klapp

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bjoenunley via KRnet  wrote:



?Vinyl Ester resin is also used in marine ?applications.  With a little looking 
around ?you may find a supplier in Florida close to? you with no shipping 
needed.
You are correct.  I called boat supply stores down around the water.  The 
smallest quantity that I have found was 1 gallon (more than I could use) for 
$150.  But I will keep looking, thank you.


Joe Nunley CW2 US Army RetiredBaker JROTC Instructor Baker Florida
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KR> HELP FOR KR BUILDING

[Pete Klapp]

Bill
The KR2 that you saw was probably the Porkopolis Pig and your description is 
pretty accurate.
Pete Klapp

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ol' weirdo via KRnet  wrote:

I have been thinking about Phil Hill's unsuccessful search for help for his
KR project and a few points come to mind.


Cal Parker in his plans and instruction booklet tells those who would build
a Teenie to go out to the airport and look at airplanes. Go into the shops
where airplanes are apart. Look at everything because every designer has
the same fundamental problems. Besides Cessna and Piper look at the
Citations and Lears too.

Look at other stuff like boats and race cars. Their problems are not unlike
airplane problems.


A couple stories. It's a few years ago when crossing the border wasn't the
hassle it is now, Peter, who is building a KR, and I flew to Toledo to what
was billed as a KR flyin.

As it worked out, there was one KR and to sum up, it was no thing of
beauty. KR builders have a sanding song. This plane looked as though the
builder had laid the fiberglass on the foam and patted it on with the heal
of his hand. But he got into the plane and flew away.


I listened to Chris Heintz of Zenith tell about standing with some members
of the French equivalent to Transport Canada or whoever and one them said,
"Look at this." One could see just by looking at it that the plane was
crooked. And the owner got in and flew away.


So don't be frightened. Remember, it's only an airplane. As they say, "it's
not a piano."


And don't be led astray by pictures of KRs or anything else. Those pretty
girls in TV soap ads are barely real. They probably use pictures of
different girls to make the ad, a face from one, an arm from another, and
so on.. So when one looks at a picture of part of a KR or other, one is
seeing only that part. The part you see might be beautiful but for the
rest, it might be a good thing to keep it hidden.


Finally, there is the "three times rule" Don't be ashamed to make something
three times, once to sort out how to make it, once to make it right, and
once to make it to the standard you want to maintain. No one ever admits
that. And even though spruce has become expensive, working with it is more
productive than nearly anything else you might do which means it isn?t
expensive after all.

Bill Weir
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KR> First flight, Finally

[Pete Klapp]

Outstanding!! I think I can see your smile all the way up here in Ohio. 
LOL

Pete Klapp



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I finally flew N236MS today




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KR> Micro over "Smooth Prime"?

[Pete Klapp]

Netters

I have been priming my plane with "Smooth Prime" and unfortunately I have found 
a few minor areas that will require a little touch-up micro. Too big to fix 
with future priming and blocking prior to final paint. Is there a problem to 
apply micro over "Smooth Prime"? Any special prep to insure bonding?

Pete Klapp

KR> KR Poll............A, N

[Pete Klapp]

Paul

here's my status

Pete Klapp



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I think it would be fun to find out how many active KR builders there currently 
are. I'll let you determine for yourself if you consider yourself active. Next 
, if you had your first flight this year or you are planning to have it next 
year.
Just email me at ppaulvsk at aol.com.In the subject line put" A" for active 
builder" T" for first flight this year " N" for first flight next yearI will 
give out the results at the gathering.

Paul Visk Belleville IL  618 406 4705
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KR> Smooth Prime problems

[Pete Klapp]

Netters

Several weeks ago, Mike Sylvester posted an email about the problem he had 
sanding the parts had previously primed. What form of Smooth Prime was he 
referring to? The earlier version was a catalyzed formula and the present 
version sold by Aircraft Spruce is in a water-borne formula. I'm about to use 
some on my turtledeck, fwd deck and tail feathers. Any suggestions or pit falls 
to be aware of with the water-borne variety?

Pete Klapp, Canton, OH

KR> Microsoft#$%*

[Pete Klapp]

Larry 
I added Windows 10 to my pc after having problems with my Windows 7 which had 
become corrupted. I was tired of trying to find ways to work around the 
problems (freezing up, changing pages on its own, slowed than dial up, etc). 
Only issue was finding a driver for my old ass printer. Luckily, my son cured 
that problem and all has been great since. Sorry that you had such problems.
Pete Klapp

> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 11:10:50 -0600
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> Subject: Re: KR> Microsoft#$%*
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: gliders at spinn.net
> 
> Happened to a friend of mine exactly the same way. Any idea how to avoid 
> it happening again when Windows installs updates? Custom install?
> Chris K
> 
> On 6/25/2016 10:05 AM, Larry Flesner via KRnet wrote:
> >
> > Microsoft users BEWARE !!!
> >
> > I purchased a refurbished laptop last September so I could get one 
> > with the Windows7 OS.  During updates last week in stuck in the 
> > Windows10 upgrade.
> >
> > Larry Flesner
> >
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KR> VW Engines

[Pete Klapp]

Chris
Check out Roy Szarafinski's Fifth Bearing at roysgarage.com in Osseo, 
Michigan.Pete Klapp, building N729PK,Canton, Ohio

> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 17:44:43 +
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: Re: KR> VW Engines
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: billjacobs386 at yahoo.com
> 
> There are a couple of versions of an additional front mounted bearing.
> It's called a 5th bearing, BTA, (better than air), etc. Go to flycorvair.net 
> or Dan Wesemans Fly with  SPA. Or google Corvallis 5th bearing. Bill Jacobs 
> Daytona Beach, Fl. 
> 
> On Thursday, June 23, 2016 12:44 PM, Kayak Chris via KRnet  list.krnet.org> wrote:
>  
> 
>  Well this set of comments would have me steer well clear of GPASC
> engine. Even if they are reliable when properly mated and assembled,
> it sounds like their crankshaft/hub solution is not very serviceable
> down the line.
> 
> After all these years how can this not been resolved? Presumably the
> revmaster solution is more certain in service and serviceability.
> 
> 
>  Having built one of these several times, I'm not
> > a fan of the keyway setup.  The slots are in hub and crank are shallow, and
> > the key is provided as a square key that you need to grind (or mill) down to
> > something way thinner to fit between hub and crank. Getting a good fit with
> > maximum material is trial and error. The key is only there to ensure the
> > timing mark stays constant if the hub is removed.  The taper is where the
> > power is transferred.
> >
> > Crank and hub are also matched sets due to tolerances on the angle.  The hub
> > still needs to be lapped onto the crank, which is a two-hour chore by hand.
> >
> > The hub/bearing clearance is not consistent. The crank and bearing are sold
> > as a set, and getting a new bearing for an existing crank is iffy.  I've
> > torqued the case to 8 ft-lbs and the crank still spun, then when I torqued
> > it to 14 the crank seized.  No amount of refitting cured that one.  I'm not
> > a great fan of the prop bolt...1/2" RH threads. Revmaster's is .75" LH
> > threads, which can be torqued higher for a better connection. Otherwise, a
> > simple engine backfire can unscrew the prop, despite proper torque and
> > Loctite 620 on the bolt  threads.
> >
> > If the crankshaft's oil seal leaks, the hub isn't going to come off without
> > a 20 ton press, so tear the engine down to replace the seals, and hope the
> > next seals work better.  My luck with those seals has not been good either.
> > That's the only place my engine has lost oil.
> 
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KR> Ethanol

[Pete Klapp]

 Ron
Ethanol free fuel is also available at many marinas, at least here in Ohio.
Pete Klapp, building KR-2S N729PK,
Canton, Ohio

> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 19:19:39 +
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> Subject: Re: KR> Ethanol
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: ronwright5 at yahoo.com
> 
> It is a simple matter to separate the ethanol out of the gas.  They recommend 
> using Premium fuel due to a drop in octane when taking the ethanol out.  Get 
> a clear tank, add ethanol fuel, dump in water and watch it separate out the 
> ethanol/water solution.  Drain out the ethanol/water and you only have 
> unleaded auto fuel left over.  If you want the specific amount of water to 
> use per gallon, Google the question and you will easily find several methods 
> for doing this.  Simple and easy to use.  Doesn't take very long to do it 
> either..
> 
> Another solution was to add a long length of clear tubing to the gas can with 
> a shut off valve at the bottom.  Dump in the water to the fuel, turn the can 
> upside down and shake.  Watch the water/ethanol separate in the clean tubing; 
> open the valve and let the ethanol/water drain out;  what you have left is 
> pure gasoline.
> 
> Works great.  Your choice as to whether or not you want to try it.
> 
> Ron
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 6/6/16, Mike Stirewalt via KRnet  wrote:
> 
>  Subject: KR> Ethanol
>  To: krnet at list.krnet.org
>  Cc: laser147 at juno.com
>  Date: Monday, June 6, 2016, 1:52 PM
>  
>  I had an old Cadillac with a computer
>  display that would read out my
>  real-time fuel consumption.  I imagine most cars have
>  such things these
>  days, althoiugh the Oldsmobile that I replaced my beloved
>  Cadillac with
>  doesn't.  Whenever I would drive cross country and got
>  into the mid-west
>  where ethanol is sold, my fuel mileage would always go
>  down.  
>  
>  I'm impressed by the statement "The fastest cars in the
>  country use it."
>  so obviously I'm suffering form a misconception.  I
>  inherently disliked
>  it because it decreased my fuel mileage and because
>  government welfare to
>  all the farmers who grow corn for ethanol annoyes me
>  too.  Plus, I've
>  never trusted it in my KR.  If I do ever use auto fuel
>  in the KR
>  (GP-2180) I always use Chevron Supreme, which is what I
>  always use in my
>  other vehicles.  Calling Chevron headquarters in San
>  Francisco several
>  years ago, they told me Supreme has 7% ethanol in it. 
>  It may be more
>  now, or less, but thinking I could avoid ethanol by buying
>  top grade
>  gasoline was not correct.  I think it's all got ethanol
>  in it, except for
>  boutique racing shops that sell ethanol-free gas for
>  racing.  Why would
>  racing shops sell ethanol-free gas for racing if "the
>  fastest cars in the
>  country use it."  I'm not arguing here since I'm not
>  very smart, but just
>  relating my experiences.  
>  
>  Steve Bennett said he always ran my engine on ethanol-free
>  gas - which he
>  could get in Omaha.  Here in San Diego it's only
>  available from
>  specialized racing shops.  From Steve's comments on
>  operation of my
>  engine, I've tried to keep ethanol out of the tanks but I
>  have
>  occasionally put some Chevron Supreme in.  It's always
>  mixed with
>  whatever 100LL is already in the tank.  In my aux tank
>  in the wing, made
>  from vinyl ester, I've been religious about never putting
>  anything but
>  100LL in it.  I've heard too many stories about car gas
>  wreaking havoc to
>  tanks and fuel components for me to use it more than very
>  occasionally. 
>  Just my experience.  I'm still learning new things . .
>  .hope we all are. 
>  
>  
>  
>  Nextiva vFAX
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KR> Fuselage to wing fairings?

[Pete Klapp]

Thanks Mark. 

> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 12:58:50 -0500
> Subject: Re: KR> Fuselage to wing fairings?
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: ml at n56ml.com
> 
> Pete Klapp wrote:
> 
>  >>What are you leaning towards? If the fuselage sides are vertical as 
> mine are, is a small fillets okay?<<
> 
> I'd probably do it much like before, except (as I mentioned on the 
> website) I'd run the wing skins all the way to the fuselage and use a 
> small micro fillet on the front part, and where (if) the fuselage starts 
> diverging before the trailing edge I'd transition to a larger fillet 
> like the one I did.
> 
> 
> Mark Langford
> ML at N56ML.com
> http://www.n56ml.com
> 
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KR> Fuselage to wing fairings?

[Pete Klapp]

MarkSO!!! What are you leaning towards? If the fuselage sides are 
vertical as mine are, is a small fillets okay? My fuselage starts to taper into 
prior to trailing edge of the wing so maybe a larger, broader fillet there 
would be a good thing?!Any thoughts?Pete

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> Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 09:56:52 -0500
> Subject: Re: KR> Fuselage to wing fairings?
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: ml at n56ml.com
> 
> HA!  After reading my own stub wing website, I did say that about an 
> airplane...Nemesis, and then recommended exactly what Pete mentioned...a 
> simple micro fillet between the joints.  It's a good thing I did this 
> website...so I'd know how to build my next one the fast and "good enough 
> for KR work" way...
> 
> http://www.n56ml.com/fillets.html
> 
> Mark Langford
> ML at N56ML.com
> http://www.n56ml.com
> 
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KR> Fuselage to wing fairings?

[Pete Klapp]

MarkSorry I got you wrong as the author. Maybe your name was somewhere in the 
post and I thought you had said it. Strega is a highly modified P-51 pylon 
racer, Reno air race type.So based on what you and Larry have done, it looks 
like I'm doing wing root fillets.Thanks, Pete

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> Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 09:39:38 -0500
> Subject: Re: KR> Fuselage to wing fairings?
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: ml at n56ml.com
> 
> Pete Klapp wrote:
> 
> >> I recently read that Mark Langford noted that Strega does not have
> >> large radius fillets. You'd think they would have them as they are
> >> trying tosqueeze every mph that they can from that airframe
> 
> I don't remember saying that about any airplane, and am not sure what a 
> Strega is (Google says "italian for witch" and an Italian liquor).
> 
> I put a fairly large fillet radius between wing and fuselage, using a 3" 
> diameter cardboard tube with some 36 grit floor sander adhesive belt 
> wrapped around it.  4" PVC pipe works fine too. It knocked that job out 
> rather quickly, although glassing any inside radius is a bit of a pain 
> in the butt.  See http://www.n56ml.com/fillets.html for excruciating 
> details on how I did my wing root fillets.  Despite fretting over it for 
> years, the actual job went pretty quickly once I set my mind to it...
> 
> Mark Langford
> ML at N56ML.com
> http://www.n56ml.com
> 
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KR> Fuselage to wing fairings?

[Pete Klapp]

Larry Mine fuselage does not flare out at the top. My fuselage sides are 
vertical and the angle between the inboard stub wings is 90 degrees, same as 
the RV's.Pete

> Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 11:08:44 -0500
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: Re: KR> Fuselage to wing fairings?
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: flesner at frontier.com
> 
> At 10:44 AM 5/26/2016, you wrote:
> >Netters
> >I'm confused as to the necessity of large radius' at the wing root.
> ++
> 
> Most KR's, when built to plans, have the fuselage "flare" out at the 
> top making less than a 90 degree angle at the win root, thus a drag 
> creator.  I think the RV has pretty much a 90 degree angle at that point.
> 
> Easiest way to make a fillet is to glass the top of the wing and let 
> cure.  Place a piece of foam at the wing to fuselage junction and use 
> a cylinder of some type, soda can, pvc pipe, or other of the desired 
> radius wrapped with sand paper and sand to shape.  Having the wing 
> top glassed will keep from sanding the wing foam at that point.  Cut 
> kerfs in the foam block so it conforms easily to the wing shape when 
> gluing in place.  Should take less than an hour to shape and 
> glass.  It doesn't need any flox/resin, just micro if needed for 
> finishing.  The fillet also makes it look more "finished".  Looks 
> follow function.  If it looks fast it probably is.
> 
> Larry Flesner
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KR> Fuselage to wing fairings?

[Pete Klapp]

Netters
I'm confused as to the necessity of large radius' at the wing root. I recently 
read that Mark Langford noted that Strega does not have large radius fillets. 
You'd think they would have them as they are trying to squeeze every mph that 
they can from that airframe. Neither do the RV series of planes, only a "U" 
shaped gasket over the edge of the wing skin were it meets the fuselage side. 
I'm tempted to put a "finger fillet" of flox along the juncture, dressed with a 
light layer of micro for easy finishing.
Thoughts? All info gladly accepted.
Pete Klapp

KR> Facet fuel pump flare?

[Pete Klapp]

Mark Your fuel system page shows your Facet fuel pumps connected to fuel lines 
using AN fittings. I spoke with a "tech?" at Facet and he "thought they were a 
45 deg SAE flare" as they only made fuel pumps for automotive use. Had you had 
any leaks or problems using the 37 deg AN fittings? Did you alter the AN 
fittings to 45 deg?Pete

KR> Canopy Choices

[Pete Klapp]

Matt
Contact Todd's Canopies @954-579-0874, they make Dragonfly canopies. I used one 
on my KR-2S as I made my fuselage 5" wider than stock. There service is great 
and their canopies are well made.
Pete Klapp, building N729PK,
Canton,OH

> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 00:23:48 -0400
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: KR> Canopy Choices
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: crazymonkey16 at ptd.net
> 
> Hey all, I?m about ready to purchase a canopy and get the top half of this 
> boat shaped. I really like the way those Dragonfly canopies look, but they 
> don?t seem to be available anymore. Three questions:
> 1. Has anyone used the Aircraft Spruce KR2 canopy, and do you have pictures? 
> What about other options?
> 2. The original canopy looks like it would cause excess drag due to the 
> abrupt angle change where it meets the forward deck. Is this a valid reason 
> to choose a different canopy, or is the performance difference probably too 
> small to notice?
> 3. Does anyone have a canopy they want to get rid of? I know a guy who?s 
> looking for one? :)
> 
> Matt Quimby
> kr2pilot.blogspot.com
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KR> engine run videos

[Pete Klapp]

ok. It showed up on Facebook.
Pete

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> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 23:33:23 -0400
> Subject: Re: KR> engine run videos
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: pkengr at hotmail.com
> 
> Still nothing?!?!
>  
> > Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 22:32:32 -0400
> > To: krnet at list.krnet.org; corvaircraft at list.corvaircraft.org
> > Subject: KR> engine run videos
> > From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> > CC: PPaulVsk at aol.com
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > I figured out a why to get the video up on the list of my engine  run.  
> > https://www.facebook.com/ppaulvsk/videos/pcb.10207942867583845/1020794286086
> > 3677/?type=3&theater
> > https://www.facebook.com/ppaulvsk/videos/pcb.10207942867583845/1020794286114
> > 3684/?type=3&theater
> >  
> > Paul Visk
> > Belleville Il.
> > 618 406 4705
> > 
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KR> engine run videos

[Pete Klapp]

Still nothing?!?!

> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 22:32:32 -0400
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org; corvaircraft at list.corvaircraft.org
> Subject: KR> engine run videos
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: PPaulVsk at aol.com
> 
> 
>  
> I figured out a why to get the video up on the list of my engine  run.  
> https://www.facebook.com/ppaulvsk/videos/pcb.10207942867583845/1020794286086
> 3677/?type=3&theater
> https://www.facebook.com/ppaulvsk/videos/pcb.10207942867583845/1020794286114
> 3684/?type=3&theater
>  
> Paul Visk
> Belleville Il.
> 618 406 4705
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KR> KR Engine Cowling

[Pete Klapp]

Mark / Netters 
I have run the CG numbers many times using four different datum reference 
points and have determined that I need to move the engine three inches fwd of 
the WW location for a standard KR-2S. As Joe Horton noted, my plane is 1'-3" 
longer than any of the other planes that responded to his request for 
dimensions. My flying CG with me and partial fuel to max gross wt at 1320 goes 
from 1.25" aft of the fwd limit to 3.5" aft of the fwd limit, well within the 
"preferred 6" CG range. All the calculations came within a 1/16" no matter 
where I set the datum. 

My next step is to build the cowling. Ron Willet is making a female mold off a 
cowling plug that I have as we speak. I will do the same after I make some 
slight changes to the plug, to clear the alternator. My question for Mark and 
fellow netters is where to purchase carbon fiber cloth other than Aircraft 
Spruce as they are pretty pricey. Also need to know which weave is best to use.
Thanks in advance for any info, 
Pete Klapp

KR> weight and balance

[Pete Klapp]

 Gary 
My plans manual, ss# 1216, list 15% to 35% MAC for RAF 48 airfoil. I used Diehl 
skins on my project.
 Pete
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Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 19:59:48 -0500
Subject: Re: KR> weight and balance
From: krnet at list.krnet.org
CC: gary769rv at verizon.net

>From my plans, the CG is 15% to 40% of the wing chord.  That was the old wing.

Is it the same with to AS5048 wing?








Gary

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KR> weight and balance

[Pete Klapp]

Larry 
Thanks for the link for the weight and balance handbook.
I've been using the formulas from AC 91-23 DOT manual.
I ran more numbers using several datums: aft of the main gear, several inches 
out in front of the spinner, and the prop flange. 
All the numbers come out good. Empty CG's fall fwd of the RR CG range. When I 
put in values for me, a passenger, various fuel quantities,  baggage in various 
configurations, all the "flying CG's" fell within an 1.75 to 3.5" aft of the RR 
CG range, resulting in a total of about 1.75" change from me and 1/2 fuel to 
max gross wt. Everything fell very close to the middle or better of the 
"preferred 6" CG range". 
Looks like I can move the engine between 2 to 3" fwd of where a WW engine mount 
would locate a Corvair engine.
Thanks for your help and insight.
Pete


> Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 12:42:15 -0500
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: KR> weight and balance
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: flesner at frontier.com
> 
> 
> >
> 
> Here is everything you need to know about weight and balance:
> 
> https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/handbooks_manuals/aircraft/media/FAA-H-8083-1A.pdf
>  
> 
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KR> C.G location,

[Pete Klapp]

Thanks Jeff, Larry, Mark, Dan for all the good advise. Since I don't yet know 
where the engine will be mounted, my best choices for the datum are the 
firewall and a point some distance out in front of the prop independent of the 
spinner. Calculations I have run using the later have yielded acceptable 
results. I am going to re-run the calculations using the firewall datum and see 
if they match. As a bit of info on the temporary motor mount that I build, the 
"tray" that supports the engine is six (6) inches longer than WW version. With 
the tray being 3" closer to 3" farther away from the firewall, I should be able 
to find a suitable location resulting in a fwd CG.  I'll run the numbers and 
publish the results.Pete

> Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 07:37:43 -0500
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: KR> C.G location,
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: flesner at frontier.com
> 
> 
> 
> Mark and Jeff are both correct in saying the spinner is not the ideal 
> place to choose as a datum to calculate W&B as that point could 
> change in the future and cause self induced errors.  I was addressing 
> Pete's concern that using the spinner was giving him errors in his 
> calculations.  I was simply saying that the spinner is as valid a 
> datum point as any other point he chooses for his calculations as 
> long as his measurements and math are correct.  It does add a small 
> factor of complication to the process as the arm increases with each 
> movement of the engine but with minds like ours that should not be a 
> major hurdle.  I would also suggest that Pete pick a more appropriate 
> datum for the future aircraft records.  I used the forward face of 
> the 5 inch prop extension on the 0-200 and that is noted in the 
> aircraft log as well as the W&B sheet in the aircraft.
> 
> Larry Flesner   
> 
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KR> C.G location, Engine centerline

[Pete Klapp]

Guys 
I have done calculations on several different engine locations. The temporary 
engine mount I made allows me to move the engine about five inches fwd and aft. 
I'm using the tip of the spinner as my ref datum so each time I move the engine 
fwd so moves the datum and I'm not sure if that is correct. My calculations as 
I move the engine fwd are moving closer to the fwd RR CG limit, but only in 
very small increments. I would have thought moving the engine five (5) fwd 
would have had a large change in CG location. Should I be using the firewall as 
a datum as it remains constant with respect to the RR CG range? All the 
calculations have placed the flying CG within the RR CG range and the "plane" 
goes over gross before getting to the safe aft CG limit.Looking for advise from 
the smart ones!!!Pete Klapp

> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 09:40:41 -0400
> From: n357cj at ptd.net
> To: pkengr at hotmail.com
> CC: ml at n56ml.com
> Subject: Re: KR> C.G location, Engine centerline
> 
> Hi Pete,
> Just information for you... no advice.. Your Airframe is one of the longest 
> if not thee longest constructed from the information that I have been 
> collecting. by something like 1'-3". The next closest air frame is a flying 
> plane and the dimensions that you sent me are proportional from in front of 
> the main spar to the rear of it. 'having said that and  a moment to digest it 
> I would think that the engine mount would be very similar to length as what 
> Mark and I had made. My gut reaction is that Maybe an extra inch might be 
> appropriate. As far as the thought process of where to shoot for would be 
> half fuel plus some fluff for all the stuff that you end up hauling around 
> like flight bag, some tools, O2, headsets and the like. I have found that I 
> most often fly with just barely under a half to full tank header and 3/4 to 
> nothing in the wing tanks. Taking a trip being the exception when I start at 
> full gross and fly until I have just the one hour reserve left.  The end 
> result that has been very satisfying to me is that I only trim for take off, 
> landing and on a trip going from full gross to empty tanks. Even then the 
> trimming is pretty minimal.
>As a side note my plane really does not like the rear CG even with out the 
> 2" that we all agree is not safe. I really avoid that area completely and try 
> to manage fuel movement from wings to header when I am at fully loaded 
> condition.
> Joe Horton
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Pete Klapp via KRnet" 
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Cc: "Pete Klapp" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 11:04:24 PM
> Subject: Re: KR> C.G location, Engine centerline
> 
> Mark
> I think I going to move the engine a little further fwd such that it 
> calculates out that full fuel and pilot puts the cg right at the fwd end of 
> the cg range. What about changing the location of the cg range, or should I 
> stay with RR location?
> And you don't see a problem with lowering the centerline to 3 to 3.25" below 
> the longerons? I will still have about 9.5" ground clearance.
>  Pete
> > To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> > Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 21:42:07 -0500
> > Subject: Re: KR> C.G location, Engine centerline
> > From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> > CC: ML at N56ML.com
> > 
> > Pete Klapp wrote:
> > 
> > > I have done calculations with pilot plus 1/2 fuel and it falls at 2" into 
> > > the RR cg range, and pilot & passenger plus 3/4 fuel and cg falls within 
> > > 6" preferred cg range, the later coming in right at the aft edge of the 
> > > preferred range. I'm thinking that I would like set the engine such that 
> > > with me and 1/2 fuel that the cg falls right at the fwd cg limit.<
> > 
> > N891JF is right at the forward limit with pilot and full fuel, and I can 
> > tell you that I need a lot of UP trim to keep the nose up, but it's a small 
> > trim tab and I still have plenty of travel left, so it does work.  Forward 
> > is certainly better than too far aft, and even though yours has a 
> > nosewheel, 
> > I wouldn't expect any problems being able to rotate the nose up on takeoff. 
> > It's easy enough to move some things aft if needed later, and it's better 
> > to 
> > start with max stability, rather than min.
> > 
> > > Next question: The horizontal engine centerline with the temporary engine 
> > > mount is 2.5" below the top of the upper longerons. I'd like to drop the 
> > > centerline a little more, 1/2 to 3/4", for better clearance for engine 
> > > cowl

KR> C.G location, Engine centerline

[Pete Klapp]

Mark
I think I going to move the engine a little further fwd such that it calculates 
out that full fuel and pilot puts the cg right at the fwd end of the cg range. 
What about changing the location of the cg range, or should I stay with RR 
location?
And you don't see a problem with lowering the centerline to 3 to 3.25" below 
the longerons? I will still have about 9.5" ground clearance.
 Pete
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 21:42:07 -0500
> Subject: Re: KR> C.G location, Engine centerline
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: ML at N56ML.com
> 
> Pete Klapp wrote:
> 
> > I have done calculations with pilot plus 1/2 fuel and it falls at 2" into 
> > the RR cg range, and pilot & passenger plus 3/4 fuel and cg falls within 
> > 6" preferred cg range, the later coming in right at the aft edge of the 
> > preferred range. I'm thinking that I would like set the engine such that 
> > with me and 1/2 fuel that the cg falls right at the fwd cg limit.<
> 
> N891JF is right at the forward limit with pilot and full fuel, and I can 
> tell you that I need a lot of UP trim to keep the nose up, but it's a small 
> trim tab and I still have plenty of travel left, so it does work.  Forward 
> is certainly better than too far aft, and even though yours has a nosewheel, 
> I wouldn't expect any problems being able to rotate the nose up on takeoff. 
> It's easy enough to move some things aft if needed later, and it's better to 
> start with max stability, rather than min.
> 
> > Next question: The horizontal engine centerline with the temporary engine 
> > mount is 2.5" below the top of the upper longerons. I'd like to drop the 
> > centerline a little more, 1/2 to 3/4", for better clearance for engine 
> > cowling and cooling plenum. Anyone see a problem with that.<
> 
> My CG is 2.375" below the longerons on N56ML, and it's not a problem at all 
> in any respect with my plane.
> 
> Mark Langford
> ML at N56ML.com
> website at http://www.N56ML.com
> 
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KR> C.G location, Engine centerline

[Pete Klapp]

Not a problem as I would still have approx. 9.5" ground clearance.

> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 11:17:21 +1000
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: Re: KR> C.G location, Engine centerline
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: tking58 at gmail.com
> 
> Does dropping the engine centreline create any issues with prop ground
> clearance?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Tony
> 
> On 31 March 2016 at 11:13, Pete Klapp via KRnet 
> wrote:
> 
> > KRNetters

> >
> > Next question: The horizontal engine centerline with the temporary engine
> > mount is 2.5" below the top of the upper longerons. I'd like to drop the
> > centerline a little more, 1/2 to 3/4", for better clearance for engine
> > 
> > Pete Klapp
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KR> C.G location, Engine centerline

[Pete Klapp]

KRNetters
I am in the process of determining the cg on my project. In comparing cg 
location, RR plans show the 8" cg range with the fwd edge of the range starting 
8" aft of the leading edge of the wing. Based on the profile of the 48" rib, 
the leading edge of the cg range is 2" fwd of the front face of the main spar. 
I have Diehl RAF - 48 skins along with inboard skins that Jeannette Rand also 
produced. With those, the leading edge of the wing is 11.5" fwd of the front 
spar face, an 1.5" fwd of RR plans. Should I move the cg envelope fwd by that 
1.5" or use the cg range set by RR.
Next question: Preliminary calculations show my empty cg is approx. an 1" fwd 
of the RR cg location. Knowing that any weight added, passengers, fuel, 
baggage, etc will fall push the flying cg aft, should I fabricate my engine 
mount using this calculated engine position? 
I have done calculations with pilot plus 1/2 fuel and it falls at 2" into the 
RR cg range, and pilot & passenger plus 3/4 fuel and cg falls within 6" 
preferred cg range, the later coming in right at the aft edge of the preferred 
range. I'm thinking that I would like set the engine such that with me and 1/2 
fuel that the cg falls right at the fwd cg limit.

Next question: The horizontal engine centerline with the temporary engine mount 
is 2.5" below the top of the upper longerons. I'd like to drop the centerline a 
little more, 1/2 to 3/4", for better clearance for engine cowling and cooling 
plenum. Anyone see a problem with that.
All advise cheerfully accepted, 
Thanks in advance for any and all assistance.
Pete Klapp

KR> 2016 KR Gathering at Mt Vernon

[Pete Klapp]

Netters
 Has a date been determined for this year's Gathering? I have an obligation 
slated for mid- September that I can schedule around if I know when the 
Gathering will be. Has a website been set up for registration? 
Pete Klapp

KR> Angle of Attack sys

[Pete Klapp]

Thanks Larry. I have been reading up on the Skyview sys which I have for my 
panel. I wasn't aware of all the capabilities of the system. You mentioned that 
you had helped install a Skyview sys w/ AoA in a friend's RV-10. I haven't 
completely digested all the features of the Skyview sys. Does the AoA require 
an additional component or is it a built-in feature of the system? If it is 
part of the system, I may just purchase the static/AoA probe and sell the 
Advanced Flight AoA package. Decisions, decisions.
Pete

> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 22:29:00 -0600
> To: pkengr at hotmail.com
> From: flesner at frontier.com
> Subject: RE: KR> Angle of Attack sys
> 
> At 08:35 PM 2/24/2016, you wrote:
> >I misspoke. The unit I have is the Sport not the Pro version where 
> >you have to install pressure ports in the bottom and top of the wing 
> >somewhere between 15 to 40% of the wing chord.
> 
> 
> Pete,
> 
> Looking at the 125 page document ( 
> http://www.advanced-flight-systems.com/Support/AOAsupport/aoasupport.html 
> ), they seem to imply that it is not that critical as long as you 
> follow the  "don't place near tip, propeller arc, etc., as long as 
> the top and bottom are located at the same % of chord and offset by 2 
> to 4 inches ( I think that's what I read).
> 
> A mid wing location would have a chord of approx 42 inches.  25% 
> would be 10.5 inches and I think that would be just behind the 
> spar.  I'm guessing at these measurements but that's where I think 
> I'd locate them.  A small access panel for installation could be cut 
> BEHIND each port.  Check the site in  blue below.  May be more info there.
> 
> Larry
> 
> 
> ===
> page 40
> 
> There are some places where pressure ports should
> not be located on the wing such as in line with the
> propeller wash, too close to the wing tip, and in areas
> difficult to access. Generally 15% to 40% chord and
> forward of the ailerons will work well. The upper and
> lower ports should be located at the same % chord but
> offset by 2" to 4" spanwise.
> A. Pick the pressure port locations. For the best wing
> port locations, check the Appendix I or better yet,
> our web site at
> www.angle-of-attack.com
> for the
> most recent information.
> 

KR> Angle of Attack sys

[Pete Klapp]

Larry 
I misspoke. The unit I have is the Sport not the Pro version where you have to 
install pressure ports in the bottom and top of the wing somewhere between 15 
to 40% of the wing chord. My question was where along the wing, outside the 
prop wash area, is the best place. Is there a problem  with being to close to 
the wingtip or a fuel cap, does surface  with rivets pose an issue? Those are 
the questions I have. 
Pete

> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 15:21:40 -0600
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: KR> Angle of Attack sys
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: flesner at frontier.com
> 
> At 11:53 AM 2/24/2016, you wrote:
> >Has anyone installed an AOA warning system in their KR-2S? I'm 
> >looking for suggestions as to pressure port locations that anyone 
> >has used for their installation.
> ++
> 
> Pete,
> 
> I looked at the unit you have on line.  Both pressure ports on 
> located on the single pitot assembly.  You simply have to get the 
> pitot assembly located on the wing to be properly aligned for cruise 
> or as directed in the mounting instructions.  As the angle of attack 
> increases at slower speeds, the difference in pressure between the 
> two fixed ports gives you a read on the panel.  The pitot assembly 
> looks exactly like the one installed on a friends RV10.  Once 
> installed, it was calibrated in flight with a simple procedure of 
> doing a 5 degree nose up and down from level flight and then doing a 
> stall.  Yours will have its own specific instructions. If you don't 
> have the procedure for your assembly, contact the manufacturer.
> 
> Larry Flesner 
> 
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KR> KR's and Angle of Attack sys

[Pete Klapp]

Netters 
Has anyone installed an AOA warning system in their KR-2S? I'm looking for 
suggestions as to pressure port locations that anyone has used for their 
installation. I have a Advanced Flight Systems Pro series AOA that I want to 
use in my plane. All suggestions and ideas cheerfully accepted for evaluation.
Pete Klapp, building N729PK,
Canton, OH

KR> FW: Fuselage dimensions for N729PK, rev 1

[Pete Klapp]

Joe
I forgot to mention that that I used the NACA 63009 airfoil and added six 
inches per side to the elevator for a total width of seven (7) feet. The 
vertical stab is an additional 4" taller and I used the NACA 63005 airfoil. The 
wings are RAF 48 as I had the Diehl wing skins and the wing incidence is at 2 
degrees instead of 3-1/2.

> To: n357cj at ptd.net; krnet at list.krnet.org
> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 20:09:52 -0500
> Subject: KR> Fuselage dimensions for N729PK
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org48
> CC: pkengr at hotmail.com
> 
> Joe
> I used all 14' of the longeron material from Wicks as suggested by Mark 
> Langford. Mine measures 28" (2'4") to the front face of the firewall from the 
> front face of the fwd spar. From the front face of the fwd spar to the aft 
> face of the bottom of the stern post, I measured 141" (11'-9"). I added an 
> addition bay to the fuselage. My fuselage is 4" wider than a std KR-2S. Of 
> the additional length, 3" of it was added forward of the front spar, the rest 
> is aft.
> Pete Klapp
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KR> FW: hello from Cincinnati (aera)

[Pete Klapp]

From: pkengr at hotmail.com
To: minskeep at gmail.co
Subject: FW: KR> hello from Cincinnati (aera)
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 12:09:34 -0500






From: pkengr at hotmail.com
To: minskeep1 at gmail.com
Subject: RE: KR> hello from Cincinnati (aera)
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 12:07:12 -0500




Mike
Sorry to hear you are no longer able to fly. Yeah I'm still working on my 
plane. Life gets in the way.
Down to finishing the ailerons which are almost done. That leaves the engine 
mount, cowling, prop and paint.
Have been able to spent more time on it since I retired. Hopefully out of the 
basement this year.
Pete
. 
> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 22:42:44 -0500
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: KR> hello from Cincinnati (aera)
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: minskeep1 at gmail.com
> 
>   hey, we meant about 2-3 years ago at the airfield, (can't remember
> the name ) it is a grass strip . there was a kr gathering so to speak
> of . roy ,s. was there if that helps
> 
> we came to your home to see your project in the basement , I thought
> it was near donr then 90% DONE 90%TO GO . thought you would be flying
> now
> 
> me ? I have had bad health and had to give it up . sold the swift and
> now I just get rides with the local guys . we still live at the
> airport kgeo . we might sell soon as I don't fly anymore .
> 
> just wanted to say hi and tell ya to drop in if you fly down this way 
> sometime.
> 
> -- 
> Michael
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KR> Fuselage dimensions for N729PK

[Pete Klapp]

Joe
I used all 14' of the longeron material from Wicks as suggested by Mark 
Langford. Mine measures 28" (2'4") to the front face of the firewall from the 
front face of the fwd spar. From the front face of the fwd spar to the aft face 
of the bottom of the stern post, I measured 141" (11'-9"). I added an addition 
bay to the fuselage. My fuselage is 4" wider than a std KR-2S. Of the 
additional length, 3" of it was added forward of the front spar, the rest is 
aft.
Pete Klapp

KR> Supplier of aircraft wood

[Pete Klapp]

I went to Wicks. They have a complete kit, all the spruce, in the needed 
lengths, width and thickness to complete a KR-2S. The longeron material comes 
in 14' length which allows you to lengthen a KR to it's best configuration. See 
Mark Langford's site as to best lengthening layout.
Pete Klapp, building KR-2S N729PK,
Canton, OH

> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 10:19:04 -0500
> Subject: Re: KR> Supplier of aircraft wood
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: wdelislesr at carolina.rr.com
> 
> S s_sbal,
> 
> A quick internet search found this;
> 
> http://www.wood-source.com/lumber-and-wood-products/rough-and-dressed-lumber/douglas-fir/douglas-fir-select/
> 
> Hours of Operation:
> Weekdays 7:30am - 5pm
> Saturday 8am - 12 Noon
> 6178 Mitch Owens Rd,
> Manotick, Ontario, Canada
> K4M 1B2
> 
> Tel: 613.822.6800
> Toll Free: 855.822.6800
> Fax: 613.822.6803
> Email: info at wood-source.com
> 
> Wayne DeLisle Sr.
> 
> 
> > KR> Supplier of aircraft wood
> >
> > S s_sbal at hotmail.com
> > Fri Jan 15 20:24:47 EST 2016
> > Previous message (by thread): KR> Supplier of aircraft wood
> 
> > I understand well now the situation with the aircraft wood suppliers. I may 
> > try first to get decent Douglas Fir select lumber that I will test myself. 
> > If I fail to get what I expect, I will order from Wicks or Aircraft Spruce 
> > Canada.
> > Thanks to all !
> >
> >> There really isn't any other aircraft quality wood sources here in Canada 
> >> these days as wood is less popular than it once was.
> >> I used Aircraft Spruce who has a CDN  store at Brantford airport.
> >
> > 
> 
> 
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KR> Aileron spar

[Pete Klapp]

The holes aren't misaligned, but there is about a 1/32+ bow in the aileron spar 
that is causing the bind.
Pete

> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 03:30:13 -0600
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: Re: KR> Aileron spar
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: ppaulvsk at aol.com
> 
> Why is the hinge binding?  Holes misaligned and putting the hinge in a bend. 
> I would just redrill the hinge If so. Remember, keep it simple. 
> 
> 
> Paul Visk Belleville Il 618-406-4705
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Netters
> Have some difficulty with the aileron spars that I have floxed into the wing 
> (Diehl RAF-48 skins). Thought I had them held straight when I glued them in, 
> but when I screw the hinge in place, it's in a bind, not real bad, but not as 
> free as I think it should be. Thinking of re-doing the spars and using rod 
> ends like the Dr. Dean 
> 
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KR> Belly board switch-correction

[Pete Klapp]

I don't remember a specific speed. This is a rough timing to fully extend or 
retract my speed brake. It moves approx. 80 degrees from full up to full down. 
Speed is also a function of where the actuator is mounted on the speed brake in 
relation to the hinge point. Mine is 4" aft o the piano hinge.
Pete Klapp

> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 22:50:57 -0600
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: Re: KR> Belly board switch-correction
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: bjoenunley at gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> Pete,What is your travel speed on your Spal LACT-6 linear actuator, 6" inch 
> travel?  Seems like most are listed as .39 inches per second.  Do you have 
> something faster or is that the rate that you use?
> 
> Joe Nunley CW2 US Army RetiredBaker JROTC Instructor Baker Florida 
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KR> Belly board switch-correction

[Pete Klapp]

Netters 
My speed brake is controlled by a momentary on /off/ on switch (Aircraft Spruce 
#T7-131G1) controlling a Spal LACT-6 linear actuator, 6" inch travel with 
built-in stop limits at each end of travel. Hold momentary on to lower to 
desired angle, approx. 20 degrees per second. Flip to on position and it 
returns to full up position and stops on its own. My speed brake is 9"x30" 
mounted using a piano hinge with six machine screws through a 5/8"x 5/8" strip 
glued to the front face of the aft spar. Pete Klapp

> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:47:08 -0600
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: KR> Belly board switch-correction
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: flesner at frontier.com
> 
> 
> Correction:
> 
> >  (an early model Cessna flap switch) 
> > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8717.JPG  (bottom 
> > left of panel)
> 
> Larry Flesner 
> 
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KR> Aileron spar

[Pete Klapp]

Netters
Have some difficulty with the aileron spars that I have floxed into the wing 
(Diehl RAF-48 skins). Thought I had them held straight when I glued them in, 
but when I screw the hinge in place, it's in a bind, not real bad, but not as 
free as I think it should be. Thinking of re-doing the spars and using rod ends 
like the Dr. Dean method I used for the elevator. And than I could wait the 
leading edge of the aileron for counterweight. Any thoughts or problems with 
that idea. How many rod end bearing would be sufficient to the equal full 
length of the piano hinge?
Pete Klapp

> Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 14:11:37 -0600
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: Re: KR> Aileron spar
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: flesner at frontier.com
> 
> At 12:54 PM 1/3/2016, you wrote:
> >I saw that potential clearance issue with the hinge & angle too. I 
> >guess the angle could be trimmed a bit to give clearance.
> 
> ++
> 
> The drawing for the setup using the aluminum angle looks to over 
> complicate things and adds unnecessary  weight.  Follow the 
> directions on page 87 and 88 of the manual.  That setup works just 
> fine.  The 1/2" cut back on the bottom side of the aileron after 
> removal from the wing allows for sufficient down travel of the 
> aileron.  Note how the two hinge halves are separated by the hinge 
> pivot for correct spacing.  Adapting a setup from other aircraft will 
> only complicate things.
> 
> Trying to get the layer of cloth that the plans call for to wrap the 
> spar to the skins will be tricky.  The 90 degree corners will not 
> want to lay flat.  Lay them on the bias or I found multiple layers of 
> the "deck cloth" (very lightweight glass) worked better as it made 
> the 90 degree corners better.
> 
> I don't think the drawing at the top of page 88 is totally correct as 
> it shows the spars parallel in the neutral position.  I think there 
> should be a wider gap at the bottom to allow sufficient down 
> travel.  Double check the cut back on the bottom side of the aileron 
> for correct assembly (top of page 87).  Once the height of the two 
> spars are determined, cutting the angle of the bottom edge using a 
> table saw or similar makes for a nice fit.
> 
> Larry Flesner 
> 
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KR> KR Gathering

[Pete Klapp]

Paul
I arrive at 12:23 local at Portland on American AA47. I have a car reservation 
at Alamo if anyone needs a ride.
Pete Klapp

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Paul VISK via KRnet  wrote:

Me to. Eta 12:05


Paul ViskBelleville Il618-406-4705

 Original message From: David Mullins via KRnet  Date: 9/2/2015  2:13 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet  Cc: David Mullins  Subject: Re: KR> KR 
Gathering
Off to the Airport,

  See y'all there!
Dave Mullins
Nashua NH

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KR> KR Gathering

[Pete Klapp]

Paul
I arrive at 12:23 local at Portland on American AA47. I have a car reservation 
at Alamo if anyone needs a ride.
Pete Klapp

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Paul VISK via KRnet  wrote:

Me to. Eta 12:05


Paul ViskBelleville Il618-406-4705

 Original message From: David Mullins via KRnet  Date: 9/2/2015  2:13 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet  Cc: David Mullins  Subject: Re: KR> KR 
Gathering
Off to the Airport,

  See y'all there!
Dave Mullins
Nashua NH

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KR> Fwd: KR Gathering Shirt & Hat

[Pete Klapp]

 In the past, we passed the hat for donations to increase the Gathering fund 
but that was strictly  voluntary?!
Pete Klapp


> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 22:45:12 +
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: Re: KR> Fwd: KR Gathering Shirt & Hat
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: kr2jm at sbcglobal.net
> 
> Dan,
>  What does the registration of $25.00 cover?   I don't ever remember seeing 
> it listed befor.
> Jim MoreheadN522pc  is for sale! 
> 
> 
>  On Thursday, July 30, 2015 9:45 AM, Dan Prichard via KRnet  list.krnet.org> wrote:
>
> 
>  > 
> > All,
> >  
> > The shirt will be a tan color with a pocket.  To quote my daughter ?so your 
> > geeky airplane friends can have a place for their pocket protectors and 
> > slide rules?  Wonderful woman but takes after her mother.  The shirts will 
> > sell for $27.00 and the hats for $10.00.  Banquet will be $20.00 and 
> > registration is $25.00.
> > $ 82.00 total.  Order as many as you like.  The cut off for apparel orders 
> > to be available at the gathering will be the 14th of August.  Orders taken 
> > after that will be shipped.  I will have a few extras at the gathering.  If 
> > you don?t plan to attend but want a shirt or hat just let me know before.  
> > Email me at dprich01 at comcast.net.
> >  
> > Dan Prichard
> > 503-715-7178
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > 
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KR> KR Forum at Airventure

[Pete Klapp]

Paul
I'll be there all week with my son and grandsons. My cell is 330-388-2074.
Pete Klapp

> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 09:26:09 +1000
> Subject: Re: KR> KR Forum at Airventure
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: pk.smith at bigpond.net.au
> 
> Hi from Australia, I may be late for the forum but would love to catch up 
> with any KR guys attending. Please PM a phone number so I can go d you. 
> Paul from Brisbane, Australia. 
> 
> Sent from my HTC One XL on the Telstra 4G network
> 
> - Reply message -
> From: "Mark Langford via KRnet" 
> To: "KRnet" 
> Cc: "Mark Langford" 
> Subject: KR> KR Forum at Airventure
> Date: Fri, Jul 3, 2015 9:15 AM
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KR> 2015 KR Gathering @ McMinnville Web Pages Are Up

[Pete Klapp]

 John
Looks like you were able to salvage some or all of those who had previously 
register. But I don't see any info on details for the shirts and hats that were 
placed during the original registration. Should we re-enter that info? Please 
advise.
Thanks, Pete Klapp

> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 21:29:48 -0700
> Subject: KR> 2015 KR Gathering @ McMinnville Web Pages Are Up
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: john at bouyea.net
> 
> The prior KR Gathering web site isn't available any more. I volunteered to
> get something running.  You'll notice what we have again is the web site
> that Bob Lee created and Sheryl passed to Mark Langford. Until Mark gets the
> KRNet.org link repointed, you can see the 2015 KR Gathering @ MMV pages
> here; http://bouyea.net/KRGathering 
> 
>  
> 
> I have most of the 2015 Gathering web pages ready;
> 
> . The Home, Airport Info, Lodging, Schedule, Contacts & Cash Flow
> pages are updated
> 
> . The Prior Gathering photos are available again. Thanks to those
> that said they were having a problem. It was on this end.
> 
> . Marc Bacca & Greg Skidgel sent photos from 2014 and I'll build a
> photo page for Chino that is missing in action. Thanks guys!
> 
> . Steve Glover said he'd get to the Cash Flow numbers soon
> 
>  
> 
> Please note: we lost our current list of attendees. As soon as I get the
> Registration page working (hopefully tomorrow) I'll let you know you can
> sign up again. Sorry about that. Going forward I'll update the roster at
> least weekly.  
> 
>  
> 
> If you have any constructive comments, please address them to me at
> kr2s at bouyea.net Thanks for your patience guys!
> 
>  
> 
> John Bouyea
> 
> N5391M/ KR2
> 
> OR81/ Hillsboro, OR
> 
>  
> 
>  
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KR> Fwd: KR2 World tour.

[Pete Klapp]

Will Colin be at Oshkosh again this year?
Pete Klapp

> Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 09:29:02 +0100
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: KR> Fwd: KR2 World tour.
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: mac.xm657 at gmail.com
> 
> Sorry -should have mentioned -the mag failure is on day 2-if you don't want
> to wade through the whole thing..
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Mac McConnell-Wood 
> Date: Wed, May 27, 2015 at 9:22 AM
> Subject: KR2 World tour.
> To: KRnet 
> 
> 
> Did anyone on the list meet Colin Hales -who flew from UK to Oshkosh?
> He previously flew from UK to Australia-in the same KR2
> I met him briefly in '85 when I was building my standard KR2.G-BVZJ
> He has an online diary at"kr2worldtour"which is well worth a
> read.-Especially his encounter with a fake rotor arm which came from a
> "reliable"source but failed after 5 hours.There was an official warning
> about them , but not seen by Colin until after the event!
> Just thinking about Mark's experience..
> 
> Mac
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KR> FW: April 6, 2015 - Minn. DNR adds 6 new Fire Boss airplanes to aerial firefighting fleet

[Pete Klapp]

Check out the first item under "Aviation Update"!!!
He's BACK

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KR> FW: KRnet archive donation request

[Pete Klapp]

From: pkengr at hotmail.com
To: ml at n56ml.com
Subject: RE: KR> KRnet archive donation request
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 13:32:36 -0500




Sent @25.00. Well worth it for the info this site has provided for me.
Pete Klapp

> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 19:31:50 -0600
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: KR> KRnet archive donation request
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> 
> KRnetHeads,
> 
> Tom Tugan, the guy who saved the KRnet Search Engine from extinction 
> when Rick Maddy was no longer able to support it without a major rework, 
> is working to restore it back to service.  He's run out of space on 
> whatever service he's using, and and is cleaning house trying to make 
> enough room to get it back up again.  I asked if it was time for a round 
> of donations, and his reply was something like "that would help 
> determine how and if I can manage enough disk space to continue".  I 
> sent him $100 through PayPal (he's at tugantek at yahoo.com), and encourage 
> others to send something as well.  The built-in MailMan archive is 
> almost useless by comparison.  The Search Engine allows you to filter 
> several ways, including the sender, date, subject, keywords...all that 
> kind of stuff.
> 
> If everybody on the list could send Tom $5 or so (although I know that's 
> not going to happen),  it would help incentivize a solution to the lack 
> of a search engine. If you don't have a Paypal account, you can send a 
> check to me at 296 Taylor Denton Lane, Harvest, AL 35749 and I'll pass 
> on the $.
> 
> Thanks for helping to support a very useful KRnet resource
> -- 
> Mark Langford
> ML at N56ML.com
> http://www.n56ml.com
> 
> 
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KR> project update

[Pete Klapp]

Bob
I also I'm using capacitance probes from Centroid. I have 40" long probes that 
bend 85 deg just after the sensor head. They were built to be able to bend 
there. I had to make a bending tool to make a tight radius. They mount thru the 
top of the tank and slip into a piece of I/2"  slotted pvc pipe supported by 
bracket mounted inside my alum 12 gallon wing tanks. The pvc pipe prevents the 
probe from touching any part of the tank. Some of the fuel monitor gages, such 
as the "glass panels" ie. Dynon, MGL, etc have the ability to preset 
capacitance values to certain tank levels setting up a curve to approximate 
actual tank levels. I had my probes built with low level alarms that hopefully 
will prevent the possibility of running out of fuel.
Pete Klapp, Canton, OH

> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 21:48:39 -0500
> Subject: Re: KR> project update
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> 
> or just buy a precise fuel totalizer! a far better system, which even shows 
> GPM, etc.
> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 18:14:37 -0600
> > To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> > Subject: Re: KR> project update
> > From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> > 
> > 
> > >  how to use capacitance probes for my wing tanks without placing 
> > > them in the tanks.
> > 
> > ++
> > 
> > Robert,
> > 
> > The only possibility I can envision is to have a stand pipe inside 
> > the cockpit , connected to the tank , where the level of fuel in the 
> > standpipe follows the level in the wing.  In that case, why not just 
> > use a site gauge.  I have 7 foot long probes in my wing tanks running 
> > from root to tip of the outer wing panel.  Because the tank thickness 
> > changes from root to tip, they are not linear.  For wing tanks where 
> > the wing has dihedral there is no perfect system, floats or 
> > otherwise.  Know what fuel you start with, know your fuel burn, and 
> > watch the clock.
> > 
> > Larry Flesner
> > P.S. for Robert.  I'll be in Nashville on occasion as my daughter is 
> > moving there next month.  I'd like to visit your project and promise 
> > not to track dirt into your sterile workshop. :-)  
> > 
> > 
> > ___
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> > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org
> > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
> > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change 
> > options
> 
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KR> nV | Aero back online

[Pete Klapp]

Welcome back, Steve

> To: alexptx at gmail.com; krnet at list.krnet.org
> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 21:30:06 +0100
> Subject: Re: KR> nV | Aero back online
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> 
> Great news! Steve welcom back.
> 
> --
> Steph and his dad are building the KR-2S see   
> http://www.masttotaalconcept.nl/kr2
>  
>  
> 
> 
> >Origineel Bericht
> >Van : krnet at list.krnet.org
> >Datum : 12/01/2015 20:23
> >Aan : krnet at list.krnet.org
> >Onderwerp : KR> nV | Aero back online
> >
> >i am happy to point out that nV|Aero is back online. Please read under the
> >section Recent Updates about Parts and Plans Availability.
> >
> >Thank you Steve for your continued support of the community!
> >
> >Alex Pearson
> >San Antonio, TX
> >___
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> >
> 
> 
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KR> KR2S supplement

[Pete Klapp]

 Steve
Don't let the Beavis and Buttheads of the world diminish what the rest of us 
know about your worth to the KR community.
So do the Marine thing "adapt and overcome", we REALLY need to have you amongst 
us.
Best to you,
Pete Klapp

> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 12:56:27 -0500
> To: n925sg at gmail.com; krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: Re: KR> KR2S supplement
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> 
> Steve,
> 
> I am so very sorry to hear that you have had another customer that has
> pushed you over the edge.  I sent you a private email asking you to
> hang in there a few weeks back. Honestly it is pretty self serving on
> my part to ask you to do so. My Wife's Cancer and treatments are taking
> up all spare time and honestly cash, so even the relatively small amount
> for plans is not in my budget right now. Priorities are what they are
> and next year in the summer may be a go, not now.
> 
> There will always be jerks, impatient children who have never been told no,
> and honestly those looking for a free handout.So for those of us
> who appreciate your very hard work, contributions, and sacrifice to make
> this little plane a realityThank You.
> 
> So please hang in there and this summer I plan on sending you a check for
> the full amount of plans, supplement, shipping etc. for some KR2S plans.
> 
> Secondly if you have appreciated Steve and his work in the KR community
> give him a shout out!
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Michael
> 
> On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Steve G. via KRnet 
> wrote:
> 
> > I told him the refund was no problem. Interestingly, he said he had kr2
> > plans so I recently told him he probably just needed the supplement. Now he
> > asks if someone would be so kind as to scan and provide the 2S drawings for
> > "review" he will be all set.
> >
> > It is in fact my goal to sell nothing so I can freely support all KR
> > builders and provide them with all our technical info.  Then you all can
> > build all our components.  I'm done with it. I quit.  Current orders will
> > be filled then doors are closed. Good luck!
> >
> > Steve Glover
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone 6
> >
> > > On Oct 11, 2014, at 19:48, Mark Langford via KRnet  > > list.krnet.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Gary Wold wrote:
> > >
> > > After more than 2 months of waiting for the plans and a couple notes
> > from Nvaero saying my order was going to sent I came to the conclusion that
> > Nvaero is for whatever reason not interested in doing business with me. I
> > requested they cancel my order and refund the price paid. Guess I'll find
> > something else to build.Please go back to the archive (URL is listed at the
> > bottom of every KRnet email) and search for nvAero, and you'll find this
> > same thread from about two months ago.  KR plans delivery is not something
> > Steve has control over.   I assure you if he could get them to you, he
> > would have done it long ago...
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Mark Langford
> > > ML at N56ML.com
> > > http://www.n56ml.com
> > >
> > >
> > > ___
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> > > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org
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> > > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to
> > change options
> >
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KR> FW: belly board installation in N891JF

[Pete Klapp]

Netters
If you pull the hinge pin, reverse the leaf and re-install the pin, it lines up 
with the underside of the speed brake panel and doesn't require a shim on the 
other hinge leaf. I used 0.125 6061T6 aluminum for speed brake, 9x30", powered 
by a 6" linear actuator. Will deploy to appox. 80 degrees.
Pete Klapp, building N729PK,
Canton, Ohio

> To: flesner at frontier.com; krnet at list.krnet.org
> Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 10:42:52 -0400
> Subject: Re: KR> belly board installation in N891JF
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> 
> Well, since we are doing belly boards ( speed brake ) here is another one.
> I modeled this after Mark Jones' installation.
> 
> http://krbuilder.org/BellyBoard/index.html
>
> 
> See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
> 
> Peoples Choice at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN 
> Best KR at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN 
> Best Interior at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN 
> Best Paint at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN 
> Best Firwwall Forward at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN 
> 
> Best Interior and Panel at 2008 ? KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN
> 
> 
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
> 
> 
> 
> 
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KR> THANKS STEVE

[Pete Klapp]

Steve
Just a quick note the thank You, Kiku, Eric, Marc and Richard for all your hard 
work putting together this year's Gathering.
You really set the bar pretty high for the folks at McMinnville next year   
The workshops were a great addition and really provided those just entering the 
KR world some good tips. 
Once again, thanks for all you did to make this Gathering a success.
Pete Klapp

KR> KR2 plans required

[Pete Klapp]

Hennie
Each set of plans whether sold by Jeanette Rand or Steve Glover have a serial 
number specific to that builder. When I acquired my partial  project, I called 
Jeanette and had that serial number transferred to me. If you make up a serial 
number, it might have already been assigned to someone else's project.
Check with Steve, he may be able to transfer it to you.
Pete Klapp, building N729PK,
Canton, Ohio

> To: Hennie.vanRooyen at exxaro.com; krnet at list.krnet.org
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 17:38:01 -0400
> Subject: Re: KR> KR2 plans required
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> 
> 
> make up your own 
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: Hennie van Rooyen [HQP Alloystream] via KRnet 
> To: KRnet 
> Sent: Wed, Aug 13, 2014 2:38 am
> Subject: KR> KR2 plans required
> 
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I purchased a semi completed KR2S without any plans. In order to register it, 
> I 
> need a new set of plans with a serial number. Can anyone give me a direct 
> link 
> to the best place I should purchase plans for it. I am from South Africa.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Hennie van Rooyen
> 
> 
> This e-mail is confidential and is for the addressee only. 
> Please refer to http://www.exxaro.com/content/main/disclaimer.asp for 
> important 
> disclaimers.
> 
> 
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KR> FW: Elevator trim hinge

[Pete Klapp]

Paul 
I should have also mentioned that I used the brass tube inside another brass 
tube as my hinge. Not sure if the larger was 1/4" ID or OD, but I found two 
that slipped together perfectly with only a couple of thousands clearance like 
Ken's plans call for. I' they can find the correct pieces for you. If not, call 
me at 330-388-2074, I'll get them for you and mail them to you.
Pete Klapp

> To: ppaulvsk at aol.com; krnet at list.krnet.org
> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 22:36:39 -0400
> Subject: Re: KR> Elevator trim hinge
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> PaulContact AeroTech hobby shop, 902 N. Main, North Canton, OH 44720. 
> 330-499-1300.Pete Klapp, building N729PK,Canton, OH
>  
> > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:25:57 -0500
> > To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> > Subject: KR> Elevator trim hinge
> > From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> > 
> > 
> > Does anyone have a source for some  1/4" tubing and the rod that goes into 
> > it for the hinge on the elivator trim tab. I"ve looked in some hobby 
> > stores. But all I can find is  5/32" with a rod that would fit into it. The 
> > plans call for   1/4". 
> > 
> > Paul Visk
> > Belleville Il
> > 618 406 4705
> > 
> > Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4.
> > ___
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> > options
> 
> 
> 
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KR> Elevator trim hinge

[Pete Klapp]

PaulContact AeroTech hobby shop, 902 N. Main, North Canton, OH 44720. 
330-499-1300.Pete Klapp, building N729PK,Canton, OH

> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:25:57 -0500
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: KR> Elevator trim hinge
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> 
> 
> Does anyone have a source for some  1/4" tubing and the rod that goes into it 
> for the hinge on the elivator trim tab. I"ve looked in some hobby stores. But 
> all I can find is  5/32" with a rod that would fit into it. The plans call 
> for   1/4". 
> 
> Paul Visk
> Belleville Il
> 618 406 4705
> 
> Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4.
> ___
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KR> Transponder Antenna

[Pete Klapp]

Mark L / Dan H
Mark in the past, you move your transponder antenna inside as performance is 
degraded due to oil and dirt. And I moved mine inside as well, but now with the 
advent of ABSD-in & out, will an inside location limit signal quality and 
reception due to increase data involved? Dan, where were your antennas located?
I'm also wrestling with transponder location verses comm antenna which is in 
the vert stabilizer like 56ML. Is there a rule of thumb as to proximity. Where 
are yours' located to each other as well as to your ADAHRS. Dynon tech didn't 
have much to offer, "just try it and see if it's a problem". Don't really want 
to drill holes or move it several times if I don't have to.
If anyone else has some thoughts, I'm all ears.
Pete Klapp

KR> FW: Skyview Installation

[Pete Klapp]

Dan / Mark
After some thought, I could mount it on a small platform (3/32 ply) glued to 
the upper aft fuselage horizontal braces behind the left seat. I'll have to 
relocate the transponder antenna which is presently located there. But that can 
be mounted most anywhere. Possibly further aft. Is there a required distance 
between my comm antenna which is in the leading edge of the vert stab and the 
transponder antenna?  I am also installing a backup airspeed indicator. Should 
I use a separate pitot system for the ASI and the ADAHRS? 
Pete

> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 05:25:06 -040ere
> Subject: Re: KR> FW: Skyview Installation
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> 
> I installed my Dynon ADAHRS behind the seat under the shelf.  I made a
> bracket that I can slide it into, and bolt it down.  If you like, I will get
> some pics for you on that installation.  I know that some of the RV guys
> install it in the wing.
> 
>  
> 
> See N64KR at   http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on
> the pics 
> 
>  
> 
> Peoples Choice at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 
> 
> Best KR at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 
> 
> Best Interior at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 
> 
> Best Paint at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 
> 
> Best Firwwall Forward at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 
> 
>  
> 
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> 
> 
> 
> Dan / Mark
> 
> Having install a Skyview / MGL Explorer in your KR's, I'm hoping you can
> answer some questions for me:
> 
> where did you mount the ADAHRS?
> 
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KR> FW: Skyview Installation

[Pete Klapp]

From: pkengr at hotmail.com
To: danrh at alltel.net; ml at n56ml.com
Subject: Skyview Installation
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 17:12:43 -0400










Dan / Mark
Having install a Skyview / MGL Explorer in your KR's, I'm hoping you can answer 
some questions for me:
where did you mount the ADAHRS?
I was thinking of fwd of the panel, but Dynon tech says it will be problematic. 
He suggested in the aft fuselage, but that's where my ELT, transponder and comm 
antennas are. I could move the transponder antenna to one of the wings.
Any help would be appreciated
Pete Klapp

KR> FW: Hotel Information for the KR Gathering September 5 - September 7, 2014

[Pete Klapp]

Lee
Here's info that Marc Baca posted this week as to the hotel reservations at 
Chino. I guess more info will follow as it is finalized.
Pete Klapp

> Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 15:44:17 -0700
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: Re: KR> Hotel Information for the KR Gathering September 5 - 
> September   7, 2014
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> 
> I forgot to mention that we must reserve rooms by August 22, 2014 or the 
> rooms will be released.
> 
> Marc Baca
> 
> 
> 
> On Thursday, May 29, 2014 3:28 PM, Marc Baca via KRnet  list.krnet.org> wrote:
>  
> 
> 
> Hello KR Netters;
> 
> Below is hotel information which has offered a group rate discount for 
> participants of the 2014 KR Gathering.
> 
> Chino Hills Hotel
> 1. 433 Fairfield Ranch Rd, Chino Hills, CA 91709 
> Phone:(909) 606-5995 
>  
> Block rate is $58 per night.  This is a clean, newer property and only about 
> 8 minutes from Chino airport.  There are plenty of restaurants close by 
> just one exit up the 71 Freeway. Be sure to mention the KR Gathering for the 
> group rate.  Standard rates are $80 ? $90 per night otherwise. 
> 
> 
> Marc Baca
> Chino, CA
> N31SB
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KR> identify this brake cylinder?

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

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Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 05:40:30 -0500
Subject: KR> identify this brake cylinder?
From: krnet at list.krnet.org 
Mark
These brake cylinders look very similar to the lower portion of the Rosenhan 
cylinders I have except that mine have the reservoir cast with the piston. The 
castings are very similar, ie. the port, the mount pivot and overall shape. 
Yours must have a remote reservoir higher on the firewall to feed both brakes.I 
agree that the piston needs to be really extended to get them to bleed out any 
air, to the point where the upper O-ring is almost exposed. Tricky procedure to 
do by yourself.Hope this helpsPete Klapp
 Can anybody identify the brake cylinder shown in the enclosed photo?  It's a 
half-inch diameter (unfortunately), and I'm not so sure it's at the top of its 
game, despite my "rebuild job", cleaning it out, blowing out the passages,  and 
putting in new o-rings.   In my first taxi test, I quickly discovered no brakes 
on the right side.  It's not developing pressure at all, and I'm pretty sure 
there's no air in the line.  I'm trying to figure out the internal workings, 
check valve wise.

I'd rather take a serious beating that have to remove this thing, especially 
with the panel in place.  Come to think of it, that's what it'll be...a serious 
beating, but that may have to happen before I can fly it.  Condition inspection 
is done, so now it's the brakes...

Thanks,

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
website at http://www.N56ML.com 



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KR> 2014 KR Gathering

[Pete Klapp]

Are there any updates or info on this year's Gathering?
Pete Klapp

KR> Midwest kr2 owners

[Pete Klapp]

John
I'll be at Sun-n-Fun from Tues @noon till Thursday evening. Call my cell 
330-388-2074 and I'll take a look at it. I'm building a wider, longer version 
of a KR-2S, about 80% done.
Are there any others KR Netters headed to S-n-F this year? Call and we can get 
together for a beer or dinner.Pete Klapp, Canton, OH

> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 11:00:37 -0400
> From: sickafoose33 at gmx.com
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: Re: KR> Midwest kr2 owners
> 
> Hello KR netters.
> I'm a volunteer with Sun-n-Fun and we're preparing for our big show next week.
> I recently became aware that a KR-2 that had been in the museum here has
> been removed from there and it is planned to be sold thru the 'parts mart' 
> here.
> 
> I believe this plane to be Bob Muses old KR. There is no N number on it, so 
> tracing it may be difficult.
> 
> The KR has a VW engine and rests on Deihl gear with a tail wheel.
> It apprears to be in undamaged condition and may make someone an excellent
> starter plane.
> 
> Perhaps some one from the KR-net may be come and see it and offer more input
> than I have here.
> 
> John Sickafoose
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Larry&Sallie Flesner
> Sent: 03/27/14 06:08 PM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> Midwest kr2 owners
> 
> At 05:19 AM 3/27/2014, you wrote: >I am located just west of indianapolis 
> indiana. + Dan, You have one KR builder in 
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