KR> att. Jim Chuck

[BOB ROBERT]

Jim contact me re your parting out of your KTR1
BOB Lalonde  boblal1941 at gmail.com

KR> Mystery 4th bearing assembly

[BOB ROBERT]

I have a mosler ans there is a collar similar to yours but no screws (good
idea by the way) it houses an oil seal for the crankshaft
The collar is held in place with with JB WELD
This the way that the engine manual says to do it
I assume that you would have to pull the collar forward after breaking the
bond and the collar stays on the crank , to free the crankcase
Any other info email or phone me
BOB Lalonde  boblal1941 at gmail.com  604-220-0460

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 6:00 AM, John via KRnet 
wrote:

> Can you send pictures of the full perimeter at the split line. Also both
> sides. To jmelvin106 at aol dot com
> No guarantees but I might see something to help.
> John
>
>
> In a message dated 11/16/2016 5:46:31 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
> krnet at list.krnet.org writes:
>
> I?m in  the process of tearing down a previously flown 2180. It began life
> as a  Mosler, but has GP heads and potentially other changes. Trouble I?m
> having is,  the case doesn?t want to split. The only place that?s hung up
> is
> right at the  fourth bearing. I?ve checked and re-checked to make sure
> there
> aren?t any  bolts keeping it in place - I think there?s some kind of
> collar keeping it  together. I?ve uploaded a picture to
> http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k510/specteroflight22/IMG_1692.jpg .
> There  were 4 hex head
> screws, which you can see the holes from. I removed those, but  that
> collar or
> whatever it is doesn?t want to move, and the case doesn?t want  to split
> there. Can anyone give me insight on how to remove that  collar?
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KR> Tire Pressures

[Bob Sauer]

What tire pressure is being used for the mains and the nose wheel?  My Plane 
is 700 lbs. and has the suggested rims and tires.

Bob Sauer
Sun City West, AZ
resauer at cox.net
N811RJ 

KR> No pictures

[Bob Sauer]

I, also, donot get the pictures...  attachment scrubbed.

KR> C.G location, Engine centerline

[Bob]

I thought weight and balance was if you comment on your wife's Weight you're 
going to lose your Balance!!
Am I wrongs?


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 2, 2016, at 1:18 PM, Mike Stirewalt via KRnet  list.krnet.org> wrote:
> 
> What's a weight and balance?
> 
> 
> Wall Street Daily
> Peter Schiff: China Just Armed its Financial Missile
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/56162916e7f1531dest01vuc
> 
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KR> 1975 Sport Aviation Magazine

[Bob]

I have a 1975 Sport Aviation Magazine with NI00MW on the cover. This is the 
Wicks Organ Company KR2 piloted by George Gibbons.
Looks mint to me. If anyone would be interested in making an offer for it email 
me off list and I'll send you a few pics.
Bob
iflyexp at gmail.com



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KR> Piston rings

[BOB ROBERT]

This is a shot in the dark
I am in need of piston rings for a 4 ring 0290 Lycoming
Also engine mount rubber bushings
Can anyone help  ??
Thanks BOB Lalonde  in British Columbia Canada
I have a KR2 and a Jodel D11

KR> Convenience Map

[BOB ROBERT]

Got location but does not show my name or other details , how do we modify
or delete ?
Bob lalonde

On Friday, December 25, 2015, Flesner via KRnet 
wrote:

>
>
> Great idea , David.  One question: once I zoom in I can't get it to zoom
> back out.  What's the trick.
>
> Thanks for building the map.  While it's still early, maybe builders could
> stick with the Burgundy flag and fliers could use blue or something like
> that.
>
> Larry Flesner
>
>
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KR> How to measure length of KR1 or KR2s

[Bob]

Hey guys, what is the proper way to measure the length of my KR1 boat stage? I 
am measuring from front edge of firewall to trailing edge of rudder and see 
13'. The plans call for 12'9"
Where am I going wrong? 


Sent from my iPhone

KR> Bob Lee's KR2

[Bob Lee]

Hello Builders,

I have had some interest in Bob's KR2.  Some have asked if I would be
willing to sell parts.  I have done some checking with other builders and
thought about this idea.  I am willing to sell the plane without the engine
as some builders want different engines.  So then I would sell the plane in
one package and the engine in another package.  I am not willing to break
it down further as I am not as versed in the plane as others are plus I
could  wind up having some left over items that I would maybe just have to
trash.

The plane part will include the wing skins and all that goes with that and
the engine is a VW engine from Steve Bennett with a turbo added.  Please
feel free to contact me at shortbus1017 at gmail.com or call me at
404-538-1434.  I will be glad to entertain all offers.

Thank you for your time.
Cheryl Lee

KR> Corvair EGT

[Bob Sauer]

What EGT readings are a good range for the 2700 Corvair engine? 

Bob Sauer
Sun City West, AZ
N811RJ  KR2S

KR> KR2 For Sale

[Bob Lee]

Hello KR Community,

I have had some different interests in Bob's project and wanted to let you
all know that I would be willing to sell the project without the engine.
Just make me a fair offer for the project is all I ask and I will worry
about selling the engine separately.

Also, if any of you are involved in your local flying clubs or EAA
chapters, please let them know this project is for sale.

Thank you for your time.
Cheryl




Regards,

Bob Lee

On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Bob Lee via KRnet 
wrote:

> Hello KR Community,
>
> It is with great sadness that I need to re-list Bob's KR2.  The gentleman
> who purchased the airplane last year and asked me to hold it till the
> weather was good for transporting it has backed out of the deal.  The
> website to look at Bob's plane and work is www.krnet.org/krs/boblee.  I am
> asking $5000 or best offer.  I have lots of extras like plans, books, all
> sorts of materials, nuts and bolts, an engine stand, CD of all KR
> newsletters and a CD of all Bob's work and pictures to go along with the
> airplane when it sells.
>
> You may contact me via Bob's email as I still have it up, my personal email
> of shortbus1017 at gmail.com, or my cell of 404-538-1434.
>
> Happy building and flying to all of you,
> Cheryl
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KR> KR2 For Sale

[Bob Lee]

Sorry for all the confusion as it worked for me but Paul is correct in
taking the period off at the end.  I was at the end of the sentence and
didn't know that would confuse everyone.

Thanks for looking and sharing.
Cheryl






On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Paul Visk via KRnet 
wrote:

> just take the period off the end and there will be no problem.
>
> Paul Visk
> Belleville Il.
> 618-406-4705
> Watch ""Fly Now"  The trailer
> https://youtu.be/A_ZqJYNU54s
>
>  Original message From: Michael Lineback
> via KRnet  Date:06/19/2015  9:13 AM
> (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet  Cc:
> Michael Lineback  Subject: Re: KR> KR2
> For Sale 
> You might want to check your browser the link works for me with
> Firefox,
> Chrome and Internet Explorer.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael
>
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 9:09 AM, R. Lee Jarvis via KRnet <
> krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Cheyl,
> >
> > The link isn't working. Can you check/correct it?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
> >
> >
> >  Original message 
> > From: Bob Lee via KRnet 
> > Date:06/19/2015  9:55 AM  (GMT-05:00)
> > To: KRnet 
> > Cc: Bob Lee 
> > Subject: KR> KR2 For Sale
> >
> > Hello KR Community,
> >
> > It is with great sadness that I need to re-list Bob's KR2.  The gentleman
> > who purchased the airplane last year and asked me to hold it till the
> > weather was good for transporting it has backed out of the deal.  The
> > website to look at Bob's plane and work is www.krnet.org/krs/boblee.  I
> am
> > asking $5000 or best offer.  I have lots of extras like plans, books, all
> > sorts of materials, nuts and bolts, an engine stand, CD of all KR
> > newsletters and a CD of all Bob's work and pictures to go along with the
> > airplane when it sells.
> >
> > You may contact me via Bob's email as I still have it up, my personal
> email
> > of shortbus1017 at gmail.com, or my cell of 404-538-1434.
> >
> > Happy building and flying to all of you,
> > Cheryl
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KR> KR2 For Sale

[Bob Lee]

Hello KR Community,

It is with great sadness that I need to re-list Bob's KR2.  The gentleman
who purchased the airplane last year and asked me to hold it till the
weather was good for transporting it has backed out of the deal.  The
website to look at Bob's plane and work is www.krnet.org/krs/boblee.  I am
asking $5000 or best offer.  I have lots of extras like plans, books, all
sorts of materials, nuts and bolts, an engine stand, CD of all KR
newsletters and a CD of all Bob's work and pictures to go along with the
airplane when it sells.

You may contact me via Bob's email as I still have it up, my personal email
of shortbus1017 at gmail.com, or my cell of 404-538-1434.

Happy building and flying to all of you,
Cheryl

KR> newsletters - 215-266 now available

[BOB (ROBERT)]

I WAS ABLE TO DOWNLOAD NEWSLETTERS #1 TO#167 WITH NO PROBLEM
WHE I DID 168 TO 214 IT STOPPED AT6.81MB AND SAID THAT FILE WAS DAMAGED
215 TO 266 STOPPED AT 2.62 MB SAME PROLEM
IS THERE A SOLUTION
THANKS BOB   SURREY CANADA
- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Langford via KRnet" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 7:21 AM
Subject: KR> newsletters - 215-266 now available


> See http://www.krnet.org/newsletter/ .  Numbers 215-266 are now available.
>
> -- 
> Mark Langford
> ML at N56ML.com
> http://www.n56ml.com 

KR> Victoria B.C.

[BOB (ROBERT)]

BOB.R
I AM IN SURREY BC  , PROBLEM IT IS ON THE MAINLAND
IF YOU HAPPEN TO COME TO THE MAINLAND DEFINATLY LOOK ME UP , at the least 
you can sit in mine
BOB LALONDE  boblal at telus.net   604-220-0460
- Original Message - 
From: "piney--- via KRnet" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 7:15 PM
Subject: KR> Victoria B.C.


> Hi All;I will be Victoria British Columbia from Nov 1 until afternoon of 
> Nov 5th. I am wondering if here is anybody there (or close) with a KR2. I 
> have never ha a flight in one and a anxious to since I now have a project 
> to finish.Please let me know if there is anybody I might do that with, or 
> even just sit in and make airplane noises.ThanksBob R
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KR> Bob Lee's KR2 Project

[Bob Lee]

Hello All -

By now all know that I have had the opportunity to sell Bob's KR2 project.
I have sold it to Bob Russell from Canada. Please welcome him to the KR
family and help him finish Bob's project.  I think it is fitting that his
project was sold to another Bob.

I thank all of you who help me get information together and put on the
website for others to see his project and for all the help that all of you
gave me during Bob's illness and passing.  Bob left a huge hole in my heart
and our childrens hearts as well as others.  Please continue to keep our
family in your prayers as we move forward with our lives without him.

Thank you,
Cheryl Lee

KR> TEST

[Bob Sauer via KRnet]

Name change

resauer at cox.net

KR> web sites

[Bob]

Larry, how about Facebook? It's a great way to share and its free. There is 
already a KR Facebook site but I do not recall who set it up. Several folks are 
already sharing their KR passion on it. Just a thought
Bob Boyd

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 20, 2014, at 3:48 PM, flesner at frontier.com wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Netters,
> 
> Can anyone suggest one or more web sites, without going in to great detail, 
> where pictures can be posted.  I would like to upload a considerable number, 
> (50+)  photos like my tail light which we recently discussed.  I have a web 
> site but it is outdated and I have no idea of the password or how to get in 
> to the site and make changes.  Mark Langford set it up for me years ago.  At 
> this point it is nothing more than a stone tablet,  you can read it but 
> you're not going to alter it in any way. :-)
> 
> Anyway, some site where computer dummies can just post photos and maybe a tag 
> to go on them.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Larry Flesner
> 
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KR> Bob Lee & KR project for sell

[Bob Lee]

Hello -

My name is Cheryl Lee and I am writing on behalf on my husband Bob Lee.  He
is a fellow aircraft builder and is part of these mailing lists.  Some of
you have met him over the years at the KR Gatherings and he has handled the
KR Gathering webiste up until this year.  Late last fall Bob began not
feeling to well.  He had open heart surgery 2 years ago and thought
something might be up with his heart.  So he started seeing his
cardiologist.  He thought he was feeling some better but I didn't really see
much improvement.  In March I had to take him to the hospital and he was
found to be anemic and dehydrated.  They found out he had some ulcers that
were bleeding in his stomach that was causing him to be anemic.  While
finding that out they saw something suspicious on his pancreas and liver.
They brought in an oncologist and did a liver bioposy as they suspected
cancer.  They got his stable and sent us home and we were to get the results
of the bioposy a week later.  We never even suspected cancer.  The day
before we were to get the results from the liver bioposy Bob had a huge
stroke in the left frontal lobe.  This affected his memory, communication
skills and processing skills.  For 5 to 6 days he did not know who he was or
any of his family.  Then finally he started to recognize me and our 3
children.  He has finally started to recognize other immediate family and a
very few friends.  He spent two weeks in the hospital trying to get his
blood stabilized and start therapy.  About 2 weeks ago we moved his to a
rehab center to continue with PT, OT, and speech therapy.  The communication
going in still gets messed up.  Sometimes he understands and others times he
doesn't.  He knows enough to tell you he doesn't understand you or know you.
His speech going out has gotten better but he doesn't always express himself
correctly.  The memory has a long way to go. He doesn't read or write much
as some of this has affect his vision as well.  His balance and walking has
greatly improved and he doesn't need a walker or cane.  Late in the day he
needs assistance as he gets tired.  Hopefully he will be coming home this
upcoming week and we will have in home therapy to continue his progress.  I
will be here with him and working with him as well as he can not drive.  We
have to master things like stairs in our house, taking care of his hygiene
and even the simple things of putting clothes on correctly. He has come a
long way and is doing better each day.  He is heading in the right
direction.  We are working toward his recovery from the stroke and in the
next two weeks will be getting a second opinion on cancer treatment.  They
have a Cancer Care Center in Newnan (an houraway from us) that we will be
going to if they will take him.  I am not sure due to the stroke if he
remembers the possibility of having cancer.

In my work, I am a contractor.  I have no insurance.  All our insurance is
up under Bob right now.  He will not be going back to work as a bus driver
this fall and therfore his benefits will expire.  I am looking to go back to
work then so we will get benefits under me.  Right now my main concern is to
help him recover as much as possible from the stroke and start some cancer
treatments.  When all this came down my children and I were devasted.  But
since then we have pulled together and become strong for Bob with the help
of our family, friends, and neighbors.  The high school that our youngest
son attends is dedicating a baseball game to him come next Friday night,
April 11.  They are taking donations on our behalf.  Please visit the site
of www.eteamz.com/lambertbaseball. The medical bills are coming in and with
our wonderful Obamacare, we have our fair share to pay.  Please donate to
our cause so that I can stay home and take care of Bob to help him more
forward in his recovery.  Any and all donations will be greatly appreciated
no matter the amount.

I do not think that Bob will ever finish his airplane much less fly it.  I
need to sell it as that will help with our medical expenses and mortgage
payments as well.  He has alot of information and pictures of his project on
his website of www.flyboybob.com.  Please go out and view it and pass it
along to anyone who would be interested in buying his project.  He has the
body with retractable landing gear, Steve Bennett motor, Dan Diehl wing
skins, and a nice insturment panel.  I will have to look for the plans.  I
even have some tools that can be purchased as well if a buyer needs them to
help finish the plane.  I do not have a price yet as I need to talk with a
few builders to find out what a fair price would be.  We live Suwanee
Georgia and will be glad to have anyone comelook at the project.  Please
feel free to respond to this email or you may contact me via my personal
email of shortbus1017 at gmail.com or my cell number is 404-538-1434.  I will
be responding to all interested as Bob doesn't understand how to use a cell
phone or his computer right

KR> Project up for sale

[Bob]

Ok guys, the first one to jump on this one is going to get one heck of a deal. 
A friend has decided that age is catching up so he is selling his KR2 project. 
The fuselage is in boat stage, the tail looks pretty much done, elevator and 
rudder controls done landing gear, wheels and tires installed, I think he has a 
fiberglass seat, spars are done, the top of both outer wings have foam 
installed and sanded you just need to install the foam on the under side, he 
will also throw in a few miscellaneous things like a roll of fiberglass and I'm 
not sure what else. His craftsmanship on this is super. He appears to have done 
things right. If you are looking for a really good project then this one will 
give you a great head start. A lot has been done. He is only asking $1,700.00. 
He has a lot more in it and if you ask me this is a good deal.
If you are interested please contact him direct.
Dave Coulson
Email him at coulsonairmotive at hotmail.com
Phone 740-704-2370
He is located in Zanesville Ohio
Bob / Frazeysburg Ohio

Sent from my iPad

KR> Prop available

[Bob]

If you still have the prop I sure could put it to good use
Bob
 iflyexp at gmail.com

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 11, 2014, at 2:46 PM, "W Jennings"  wrote:
> 
> Hello KRNet
> 
> I have a Props Inc 52 x 48 Maple prop with fiberglassed tips and leading edge 
> protection.  I had purchased it new for my Revmaster engine on my KR2, but 
> never got to use it.
> I could send a photo in a few days or so.  Located near Olympia, WA.  If you 
> can use it, you can have it. (free)
> Email me off the list if you're interested.
> 
> Weldon Jennings
> 
> 
> In God We Trust! 
> 
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KR> Pressure testing my wing tanks

[Bob Lee]

Pierre said:
<< "...so I hooked up the compressor,blocked off all the inlet, breather and
other openings, prepared the little water spray can and started the
compressor." >>

I was a little luckier than Pierre, when I built my header tank I got better
advise:  Use a tee going into the tank.  On one side place a baloon and on
the other side place the compressor.  That way, the baloon will limit the
pressure in the tank and you won't distort it with the pressure.

Regards,

Bob Lee
KR-2, 90% done only 68% to go!
Suwanee, GA  USA

KR> STATIC PORT

[BOB (ROBERT)]

STATIC PORT ON THE SIDE OF THE FUSALAGE
IS THERE ANY BEST PLACETO PUT A STATIC PORT ON THE SIDE 
REMEMBER SOME USING 2 LARGE HEADED POP RIVETS 
THANLS BOB IN SURREY BRITISH COLUMBIA CANADA

KR> KR Gathering Website

[Bob Lee]

KR enthusiasts,

The site that hosts www.krgathering.org will be getting a network upgrade
this evening at Midnight EDT.  As part of the upgrade, the ip address of the
site will change.  The upgrade should take fifteen minutes.  Depending on
your local DNS server caching, you could experience an outage from a few
minutes to two hours.  Sorry for any inconvevnience this might yield.

Regards,

Bob Lee
KR-2, 90% done only 68% to go!
Suwanee, GA  USA

KR> Additional testing data with P-mag timing

[Bob Lee]

Jeff,

You wrote:  << However, the additional timing advance will allow you to save 
fuel by burning more of it in the cylinders and less of it in the exhaust, 
especially if you fly throttled back or at high altitudes. >>

Your post begs the question:  How do it know we "fly throttled back or at high 
altitudes"?  What additional data besides ignition trigger does the P-mag have 
to decide to advance the ignition?

Regards,

Bob Lee
KR-2, 90% done only 68% to go!
Suwanee, GA  USA

KR> KR2S for sale

[Bob]

Kiek, Old fashioned paper photos went out by US mail on Monday.
Thanks
Bob
- Original Message - 
From: "kgartrell74" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: KR> KR2S for sale


> Hi Bob-
>
> A lurker of the KR email list, I saw your note about a KR2-S project for
> sale. Been wanting to get started on building one, but have yet to get
> going...maybe a started project will get me in gear!
>
> Any info and/or pics would be great..as well as price. I'm in Amarillo
> Texas.
>
> Thanks -
>
> Kirk Gartrell
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Bob  wrote:
>
>> The time has come to sell my KR2S project. It is located in eastern North
>> Carolina. If you are interested contact me at camrwm at embarqmail.com or 
>> 252-
>> 777- 2492 for details
>>
>> Bob Morrissey
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KR> Gathering hotel

[Bob Lee]

done

-Original Message-
From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org]On Behalf Of
Larry Flesner
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 8:33 AM
To: krnet at list.krnet.org
Subject: KR> Gathering hotel




The "official hotel" for this years Gathering is the Holiday Inn, the
same as past years.  I received the following info from Dianne Morris on
rates.

"I have rooms set up for your event - blocked beginning on  Oct. 3 -
checking out on Oct. 6, 2013.  Your group rate is $99.00 plus taxes,
total per night is $111.89. "

If you plan to book at the Holiday Inn, I'd recommend calling them
direct at 618-244 7100 and tell them you are with the KR
Gathering.  They have doubles and singles with queen size beds.  If
you have any problems, shoot me an e-mail at flesner at frontier.com.

For Bob Lee, please post to the Gathering site. Thanks..

Larry Flesner
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KR> KR2's in South Africa

[BOB (ROBERT)]

Rudi
Could you give me your phone number so that I can contact you as I will be 
staying with friend in the suburbs of Johannesburg
BOB
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To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: KR> KR2's in South Africa


Great Bob!

We have a few in the Pretoria/Johannesburg area, when you are here
please let me know so that we can arrange something!

Regards,
Rudi
r...@rudix.servepics.com

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> I am going to South Africa on holiday  NOV 18 until FEB 15
> Would like to visit some KR's  and projects I am coming from Vancouver 
> Canada
> BOB  bob...@telus.net
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KR> KR2's in South Africa

[BOB (ROBERT)]

I am going to South Africa on holiday  NOV 18 until FEB 15 
Would like to visit some KR's  and projects I am coming from Vancouver Canada
BOB  bob...@telus.net

KR> Tip tanks

[Bob Glidden]

. Creating conditions to get you an unrecoverable spin or an uncontrollable
wing heavy condition at landing speed are things that can get you killed.

 Jeff Scott
 Los Alamos, NM


Jeff is spot on here. Just think if they had only three gallons each and for
our purpose fuel weighs in at 6 LBS a gallon. If your fuel don't transfer
out of one tank you got 18 lbs sitting on the wing tip. When you get slow
the plane is going to be like a teeter-totter. On final is not the place to
practice spin recovery. I don't care how good you think you are it only
takes one time. Some of the best pilot of our time are no longer with us
because of one mistake why increase our odds. Build smart...fly safe..

KR> paint scheme

[Bob Glidden]

If you are going to a good body shop guy, you should not have to tell him
anything. He should be able to tell you..

-Original Message-
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Of Brian Coss
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 9:46 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: RE: KR> paint scheme

my beautiful plans built kr2 is in original white you the primer/filler. is
there any advice on what I should tell the body shop guy, so the modern
primer will adhere to the original primer? Thx :)
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KR> KR crash

[Bob Glidden]

FAA released name of KR pilot in crash. Was Travis O. Berry. Still looking
into what happen..







Bob Glidden

KR2 N807MT (Mouse Trap)

Eminence, Indiana

glid...@ccrtc.com  

KR> Actual work on a KR

[Bob Glidden]

Well prior to the gathering I had no plans to finish the KR in my barn aka
the "mouse trap" but since returning from another AWESOME time at Mt Vernon
I decided that I would drag the plane out and give it a shot. I pulled off
the old firewall and took a 2180 vw off a Corby starlet and I'm headed out
for new plywood today to replace the firewall. I or I guess we since my 15
year old is helping would really like to have the front end repairs done and
the engine hung and get the first run on the engine before turkey day in
November. And I guess since Lee is so busy helping everyone else with their
KR work I will have to do all my composite work myselfthanks buddy,
actually he is going to do a pair of wheel pants I got from John B. he mouse
trap will make it to the gathering next year if I have to tow it. About
three years ago I decided I was going to slow working on airplanes and focus
more on my two boy's activities in their lives and believe me they have
many. Well that has not changed I just found a way to do both...get them
interested in airplanes and working on them. Even the wife thinks working in
the barn on airplanes is a good idea. It really was great seeing everyone
this year and it would be awesome to see 40 KR's at Mt Vernon next year.


Bob Glidden
KR2 N807MT (Mouse Trap)
Eminence, Indiana
glid...@ccrtc.com  

KR> Magneto

[Bob Glidden]

Netters

I am looking for a mag to put on a 2180 VW engine I have for the mouse trap.
I could buy a rebuilt one , but I would really like to find one reasonably
priced. Please email me off net so we can keep the traffic down. 



Bob Glidden 

CX4 #328

Eminence, Indiana

glid...@ccrtc.com

KR> Results

[Bob Glidden]

Here are the results of judging at the gathering.   Best Paint N209JC..
People's Choice N209JC.Best firewall forward N357CJ..Long distance (Steve
Glover).Best panel/interior N51TU. Best KR   N886MJ.. I think that was all
of them.





Bob Glidden

KR2 N807MT (Mouse Trap)

Eminence, Indiana

glid...@ccrtc.com  

KR> KR Gathering "Performance Evaluation"

[Bob Glidden]

I printed it out and loaded it on my lap top. I will bring both with me.

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Mark Langford
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 10:12 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> KR Gathering "Performance Evaluation"

KRnetHeads,

We talked about having a "race" Saturday morning at the Gathering, weather
permitting.  Jeff Lange worked out the details for us a few years ago, and
they're posted at 
http://www.krnet.org/misc/KRGatheringPerformance.pdf .  It's not called a
race because  you don't have to run wide open if you don't want to, although
some folks will want to.  This allows you to gauge your progress in
streamlining or sharpening piloting skills in order to improve performance
from one year to the next.  Planes depart the starting line in order of
expected finish time, so the gaps between planes should grow throughout the
short run, enhancing safety.  I think everybody who's done it has enjoyed
the experience, and I'm looking forward to it again this year.

Anyway, if you want to run it this year, the plan is 9AM Saturday morning.
Please print this out and bring it with you so you'll have the details
already in-hand.

Thanks,

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
website at http://www.N56ML.com 


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KR> Horton

[Bob Glidden]

Cheer up Joe you will get to see me soon


Bob Glidden 
CX4 #328
Eminence, Indiana
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KR> Hotel

[Bob Glidden]

Check the gathering web site, there are some hotels listed on it.
www.krgathering.com 

KR> 20 DAYS YeeeeHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Bob Glidden]

5 or 6 the root beer might be gone...

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Of Mark Jones
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 4:05 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> 20 DAYS YHaaa

>How many days, Mark Jones ???
>Larry Flesner
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20 DAYS. Actually 19 for us die hards who arrive on Thursday. Have me a cold

root beer waiting when I arrive. Most likely my wheels will touch down 
Thursday afternoon around 5-6 PM.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
E-mail: flyk...@charter.net
Web: www.flykr2s.com



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KR> Gathering

[Bob Glidden]

Steve Bray is coming, my gathering is now complete. This is always the best
four day event of the year. Time to start working on the root beer stand..



Bob Glidden 

N807MT (Mouse Trap)

Eminence, Indiana

glid...@ccrtc.com

KR> Judges

[Bob Glidden]

You see Larry that is what I was talking about all Pete thinks about is root
beer and I'm not sure he can think clearly..

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Pete Klapp
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 9:06 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: RE: KR> Judges


Better double the rootbeer order just in case


> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 15:42:24 -0400
> From: car...@ptd.net
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: Re: KR> Judges
> CC: 
> 
> I can see that this years gathering is going to get totally out of 
> hand. Just sayin
> 
> 
> On 8/14/2011 3:06 PM, Bob Glidden wrote:
> > Now wait Larry you said the next judge was up to me. I would really like
to
> > be a little more selective then Pete Klapp. Just sayin...
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf
> > Of Larry Flesner
> > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 10:56 PM
> > To: KRnet
> > Subject: RE: KR> Judges
> >
> > At 09:00 PM 8/13/2011, you wrote:
> >> I'll volunteer to help Bob and Mike judge airplanes.
> >> Pete Klapp
> > 
> >
> > THANKS, PETE. YOU'RE IN...
> >
> > Larry Flesner
> >
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KR> Judges

[Bob Glidden]

Now wait Larry you said the next judge was up to me. I would really like to
be a little more selective then Pete Klapp. Just sayin...

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Larry Flesner
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 10:56 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: RE: KR> Judges

At 09:00 PM 8/13/2011, you wrote:
>I'll volunteer to help Bob and Mike judge airplanes.
>Pete Klapp


THANKS, PETE.  YOU'RE IN...

Larry Flesner


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KR> Gathering update

[Bob Glidden]

Finished the front porch. Last of the honey do list, now to work on the
shop. I think I will have room to work on both the CX4 and the KR..


Bob Glidden 
CX4 #328
Eminence, Indiana
glid...@ccrtc.com

KR> Gathering update

[Bob Glidden]

I feel like I have seen that airplane on the shirts before. But they do look
good. Another good job by Larry.


Bob Glidden 
CX4 #328
Eminence, Indiana
glid...@ccrtc.com

KR> Judges

[Bob Glidden]

Larry I will be there on Thursday and would be interested in judging the
airplanes for you..



Bob Glidden 

CX4 #328

Eminence, Indiana

glid...@ccrtc.com

KR> camping at Oshkosh

[Bob Glidden]

Sweet I would like to get whoever wants to come over for a cook out Monday
evening..let me know we can burn some burgers and brats and have a couple
root beers, I will be there starting Saturday the 23rd.

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Pete Klapp
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 2:50 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: RE: KR> camping at Oshkosh


Bob
I will be camping in Scholler from Monday, July 25th thru Sunday, July 31st
Pete Klapp


> From: glid...@ccrtc.com
> To: lah...@yahoo.com; kr...@mylist.net
> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:19:48 -0400
> CC: 
> Subject: KR> camping at Oshkosh
> 
> Are you camping in or out of Oshkosh...we will be at fondulac again this
> year...
> 
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KR> camping at Oshkosh

[Bob Glidden]

Sorry gang I meant for that to go to Larry H..

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Of Bob Glidden
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 2:20 PM
To: 'Larry H.'; 'KRnet'
Subject: KR> camping at Oshkosh

Are you camping in or out of Oshkosh...we will be at fondulac again this
year...


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KR> camping at Oshkosh

[Bob Glidden]

Are you camping in or out of Oshkosh...we will be at fondulac again this
year...

KR> EAA survey

[Bob Glidden]

The SAA Sport aircraft association (I think) is no more Paul P started it up
a few years back and had a hand full of fly-ins at a grass strip in
Illinois, but it never really went anywhere. It was not all commercialized
about the only thing you could buy there was a t-shirt and some food.

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Of Glenn Martin
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 8:41 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> EAA survey

On 7/6/2011 2:38 PM, Bob Glidden wrote:
> I think it is funny that the founder of EAA Paul P. started SAA a few
years
> back because he said EAA was becoming to commercialized.
What is the SAA?

-- 
Glenn Martin,
KR2 N1333A,
Biloxi, MS

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KR> Canada

[Bob Glidden]

This is to any of our Canadian members, my family and I are going to Niagra
Fall the end of July and was wanting some info on camping in the area. We
have seen some on line, but really don't know what they are like. We will be
camping on the Canada side in a 35' camper. Thanks for any help, please
email me directly at  glid...@ccrtc.com 

KR> EAA survey

[Bob Glidden]

EAA was founded on experimental aircraft, and I'm not thrilled that it's now

being expanded to "spam cans", a segment that is well represented in so many

ways.  Warbirds are nice from a nostalgic standpoint, but if I never had to 
stop another conversation with a KR builder to plug my ears while a Harrier 
showed off in front of the airshow crowd, it would be fine with me.


I think it is funny that the founder of EAA Paul P. started SAA a few years
back because he said EAA was becoming to commercialized. Wonder who
caused/let that happen. It is all about the money now. They would rather
have people giving massages and selling pots and pans then a guy selling
used parts. Anyone that knows me knows I love anything that involves an
airplane and Oshkosh is like therapy. If it was not for the great group of
people that get together every year, (most of them I met through this group)
it would not be worth going. It has became a family trip for us now and has
become the start of our family vacation every year. Oshkosh has always been
the place for anything new in aviation that hits the market. Both EAA and
AOPA are a big voice for GA and do a lot a great things, but I would love to
see the swap meet area get back to what it used to be. Anyone that goes to
Sun-N-Fun knows what I mean, their fly market is awesome. So go ahead and
flame away, but remember this is my opinion and has been shared by many
including the founder himself. We are the members and should have a voice,
if we all keep sending emails to them and voicing our thoughts maybe we can
get it back to the way it was.

KR> KR Gathering Video?

[Bob Vermeulen]

Hey gang,

I see Larry Flesner asking about me in his last post.  I figured I had 
better give everyone an update.  I'm still standing on the green side of 
earth. A lot has happened in the past year since the heart attack and 
stroke.  I've sold both of my planes and my Bridgeport.  Most of my 
tools have been sold and I've really cut back on the things that I do.  
After the stroke, I was mostly blind.  Some of my sight has come back, 
but I'll probably never be able to drive or fly again.  I always tell my 
"doc", I can see everything but I can't see anything.  Funny, but when I 
look straight ahead, everything is in view, but my brain crosses it up.  
Try walking around with your eyes crossed.  That's kinda what it's 
like.  I don't look for pity, just understanding.  The next time I see 
you, I may be looking straight at you, but may not see you.  I still  
get the Digest everyday and reading it takes a little longer than it 
once did, but I look forward to it and love to follow the progress of 
everybody.  Last Sunday I met with Terry ( one of my camera operators/  
partners) and we got to talking about  the "Gathering"  I told him it 
was going to be back at Mt. Vernon again this year and it sounded good 
to him.  If we can, we are going to try to be there this year.  We 
probably wouldn't shoot video, but we sure would like to see everyone 
again.  The "Gathering" is a great event.  If you've ever been to one, 
you know what I mean.  If you haven't, you need to go.  Well worth it!!

Well that's about all there is to report.  Thanks to all you guys that 
have sent me kind notes and thoughts.  I hope to see you at Mt. Vernon.

Bye,

Video Bob
a.k.a. Bob Vermeulen

Omega Productions
Grand Rapids, Michigan

KR> ELT Requirements, External ELT Antenna

[Bob Glidden]

Most ELTs have an internal antenna. 

Sent from my iPod

On Feb 21, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Dave Dunwoodie  wrote:

> I've been studying every KR2 picture I can find and a see only a handful 
> that have an ELA antenna visible.  This brings up a couple of (dummy me) 
> questions:
> 
> 1.  Is an ELT required?  This may sound really stupid, but the lack of 
> visible antennas has me wondering now.
> 
> 2.  What about an internal ELT antenna?  All of my other antennas are 
> internal, why not the ELT?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Dave.
> N1199P
> N8325M
> 
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KR> KR2S for sale

[Bob Glidden]

The FAA also says that we are responsible to self assess ourselves on rather
or not we are medically fit to fly rather we qualify for a medical or not,
and if you have failed a FAA medical you do not qualify for LSA. I would not
want to be on the wrong end of somebody's mishap flying when they should not
be.


It's my understanding that the FAA say's that your aircraft is what you say 
it is. If you call it a powered glider you can fly it without a medical. You

also can fly at any speed and at night. You do have to have a glider 
endorsement on your ticket.

KR>differential compression

[Bob Lee]

Mark,

You stated:
 << I've seen on my engine in the last 330 hours has been 78/80 on one
cylinder.  Most of the rest at 80/80. >>

Two questions come to mind with that good compression:
 1.  What brand of rings are you using?
 2.  Who does your valve jobs?

OK 3 questions:
 3.  What kind of valve job do you use?

Regards,


Bob Lee
N52BL  KR2
Suwanee, GA  USA
92% done only 67% to go!

KR> hanger and compression

[BOB (ROBERT)]

What type of engine ?
Hot or cold?
Bob Lalonde
BC Canada
- Original Message - 
From: "Jonathan Thomas" <prshar...@yahoo.com>
To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 4:18 PM
Subject: KR> hanger and compression


Hey all,
I'm new and currently interested at buying a KR-2 and I was wondering 2 
things. The compressions are 58, 71, 73, 75 is this good? Also, I will be 
moving to the New Orleans area, is there anybody in that area that could 
recommend a good airport to base it out of and any idea of the cost of 
renting a hanger in that area? I tried looking online with little luck.

Thanks,
Jonathan



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KR> KR2 Plans - nV Aero Version

[Bob Glidden]

Wow of all the names I could think of to describe Lee "incredible" never
came to mind...

To: KR Net
Subject: Re: KR> KR2 Plans - nV Aero Version

I had help moving out of Corona from Mr Incredible. :)

KR> KR2S Project For Sale

[Bob Glidden]

You don't need it anyway.

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Eric j Pitts
Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 9:18 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> KR2S Project For Sale

Your link did not work.

On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Jon Finley  wrote:

> Howdy,
>
>
>
> Life has been more than interesting over the last year and it seems that
> course is going to continue. So, without having any control, I need to
sell
> the project that I recently acquired. It is listed on my web site at the
> following link:
>
> http://www.finleyweb.net/Home/KR2SProjectForSale.aspx
>
>
>
> Please email me at jon at finleyweb dot net if interested and able to pick
> her up.
>
>
>
> Location: E98 - Mid Valley Airpark - Los Lunas, NM 87031
>
> Asking Price: $750.00
>
>
>
> Jon Finley
>
> N314JF - Q2 - Subaru EJ-22
>
> http://www.finleyweb.net/Q2Subaru.aspx
>
>
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-- 
Eric Pitts
Terre Haute, Indiana
HTTP://eric.pitts.mystarband.net/KR2S.html

"Life should NOT be a  journey to the grave with the  intention of arriving
safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but  rather to skid in
sideways, chocolate in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn  out
and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"
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KR> New old KR Gathering photos

[Bob Lee]

KRnuts,

For the few of you that are old enough to remember the last century, I made
a discovery this weekend while searching through the basement for old
photographs.  A while back someone had asked about Don Beachum's retract
system.  I knew that I had taken some shots of his plane at a KR Gathering
in a previous century.  Over the holiday break I got the machine from my dad
to convert film to digital images and went hunting for the photos of Don's
plane.  I haven't found those photos yet but I did run across photos from
the 1986 Tulsa, OK KR Gathering, the 1988 and 1989 Covington TN KR
Gatherings, the 1990 Rough River State Park KY KR Gathering, and the 2001
Pine Bluff AK KR Gatherings.  These photos have been uploaded to
krgathering.org.  They have been added to the links at the bottom of the
home page.  You can scroll down to the bottom to find them.

You will see that there is a note asterisked (*) to these links stating:
"Photo quality for these Gatherings (1986 through 2001) are not too good.  I
found the photos in a box in the basement in 2010 and converted them to
digital images from the original film.  It might be good enough to jog the
memory of some of us old timers about Gatherings gone by."

Just in case some of you are wondering, there are only 250 days till the
2011 KR Gathering in Mount Vernon, IL on September 9-10, 2011!

Regards,


Bob Lee
N52BL  KR2
Suwanee, GA  USA
92% done only 67% to go!

KR> vw 2kcc long block

[Bob Lee]

Charles Smith
<< Does anyone know how to identify a type 4 engine? >>

The easiest way is to look at the heads:

Type IV exhaust comes out the bottom of the head.
Tpye I  exhaust comes out the front and rear of the head

Regards,


Bob Lee
N52BL  KR2
Suwanee, GA  USA
92% done only 67% to go! 

KR> Stalls

[Bob Lee]

Mark Langford wrote:

<< I'm not trying to say that a KR is any more dangerous than any other
plane.  >>

For my money Mark, your flight report is completely normal for most
airplanes.  Early in my flight training I did the same thing when learning
accelerated stalls.  While fixating on the airspeed and artificial horizon,
the ball went all the way to the side.  When the wing broke I was inverted
before I knew what happened and pointing straight down.  I was in a Cessna
150 with an instructor at the time.  In the flight debrief, the instructor
told me "I saw it coming but you didn't so I let it happen".  That was one
of those learning moments where you get a lifetime lesson in seconds.  All
these years later I scan the ball continuously to make sure I don't skid
into a problem.

Regards,


Bob Lee
N52BL  KR2
Suwanee, GA  USA
90% done only 69% to go!

KR> 1300# gross weight question

[Bob Hailey]

one more foot on each..slow you down about 2mph..bob
- Original Message -
From: "Craig Williams" <kr2seaf...@yahoo.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 6:12 PM
Subject: RE: KR> 1300# gross weight question


Sure don't mean to scare anyone and you bring up some good points.  I will
revise my gross down to 1200# and find a way to meet that.  Maybe I'll leave
the tail behind.  LOL  That's why I post this stuff.  I want to hear what
you guys have to say.  There is a reason they call them Experimental.  But
that's no reason to be complacent and build a deathtrap.

Thanks again Pete

Craig
www.kr2seafury.com

>
> You guys are really scaring me by ignoring the part gross
> weight plays on
> the design of an aircraft, it's not just a matter of wing
> loading but the
> ultimate strength of the aircraft. A number of years ago
> this was posted
> (look in the archives).
>
> Peter Hudson <phud...@iwvisp.com>
> Tuesday, October 07, 1997 11:10 PM
>





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KR> Don Beachum's Retractsm

[Bob Lee]

Today I received two drawings from Chris Gardner that he had of Don's
retract gear.  I put them on my web site so they are available to those that
would like the information.  Look in the left navigation window of my web
site for "Reference Information".  There is an index at the top of that
page, click on "Don Beachum's Retract Gear" and it will take you to the
images Chris provided.  My web page is:  http://kr.flyboybob.com.

Regards,


Bob Lee
N52BL  KR2
Suwanee, GA  USA
92% done only 67% to go!

KR> RE: KR FBW and other "stuff"

[Bob Buzby]

Hey ! they are going to kick you off this site for saying things like this...be 
Careful what you write...do not Experiment with your writing...

I have been warned twice now...

(in fact, this may be my Third Strike...i can only hope i am Forgiven for this 
Reply...in the Spirit of Experimentalism...)-Bob

> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 14:19:52 -0700
> From: ronwrig...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: KR> RE: KR FBW and other "stuff"
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> 
> Because it is an "EXPERIMENT"..  That's what Experimental aircraft building 
> is all about!!  Fun.  Change.  Try something that no one else has tried.
> 
> Ron
> 
> --- On Wed, 11/3/10, M Blank <bearsfr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > From: M Blank <bearsfr...@hotmail.com>
> > Subject: KR> RE: KR FBW and other "stuff"
> > To: kr...@mylist.net
> > Date: Wednesday, November 3, 2010, 3:41 PM
> > 
> > I am not a KR flier I am in the process of building a KR
> > when I am not flying my Mooney, I have an A/P and lots of
> > nice "gadgets" in the Mooney, but, the Mooney is a much
> > larger plane than a KR. So the question I have is, "What the
> > HECK does any of this yackety yack have to do with building
> > a KR. These things are tiny little planes, would be like
> > trying to turn an MGB into a motorhome.
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > 
> >   
> >   
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KR> welding aluminum

[Bob Buzby]

or, was that Plato...?  (another soul with many Ideas...LOL !)

> From: fatl...@hotmail.com
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: RE: KR> welding aluminum
> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 14:33:15 -0700
> 
> 
> "Necessity is the Mother of Invention..."  -Jonathan Swift  (16th 
> Century ?  -"Gulliver's Travels")
> 
> > Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 17:19:11 -0400
> > Subject: Re: KR> welding aluminum
> > From: jose.fuen...@gmail.com
> > To: kr...@mylist.net
> > 
> > LOL thanks, I have so many custom changes to my BD plane that anyone
> > experenced with the model will note them real fast LOL.
> > 
> > I've been wanting to do a fly by wire design too, would be super easy, but
> > I've been stuck on how to do the backup stick for manual control if
> > something was to happen to the electronics.
> > 
> > joe
> > 
> > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Bob Buzby <fatl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > > excellent experimental philosophy...!   LOL !
> > >
> > > > Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 16:51:44 -0400
> > > > Subject: Re: KR> welding aluminum
> > > > From: jose.fuen...@gmail.com
> > > > To: kr...@mylist.net
> > >  >
> > > > Is the goal here to make alumn tanks?
> > > >
> > > > I did that for my BD4 but, I had made a cardboard mockup of the tank 
> > > > that
> > > > fits in the hole and gave it to a shop and said MAKE IT REAL, they made
> > > it
> > > > real alright LOL.
> > > >
> > > > Next time I'm going to use that foam stuff and place a big bag in the
> > > area
> > > > and fill it with the foam and wait for it to harden, probably alot 
> > > > easier
> > > to
> > > > make a mold that way LOL.
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Craig Williams <kr2seaf...@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > John,
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, all that I have read and seen about gas welding aluminum 
> > > > > indicates
> > > > > that finessing the flame is key.  The only way to learn it is by doing
> > > and
> > > > > getting the feel.  I look forward to the challenge.
> > > > >
> > > > > Craig
> > > > > www.kr2seafury.com
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Tue, 11/2/10, John Caudle <jdl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: John Caudle <jdl...@yahoo.com>
> > > > > Subject: Re: KR> welding aluminum
> > > > > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> > > > > Date: Tuesday, November 2, 2010, 4:48 PM
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Craig,
> > > > >
> > > > > Welding aluminum with gas is about the same as using a TIG.
> > > > > With gas you will also need flux. Aluminum welding takes lots of
> > > practice.
> > > > > I would suggest you pickup some stock that is thinner than what you
> > > > > will be using to build the tank and practice. Heat control is the road
> > > to
> > > > > success.  When the aluminum will turn shinny one of two things will
> > > happen.
> > > > > 1) You make a hole.  2) You start welding.
> > > > >
> > > > > net.org/info.html
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ___
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> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > > Group
> > > > Former Microsoft MVP
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> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
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> > Group
> > Former Microsoft MVP
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KR> welding aluminum

[Bob Buzby]

"Necessity is the Mother of Invention..."  -Jonathan Swift  (16th 
Century ?  -"Gulliver's Travels")

> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 17:19:11 -0400
> Subject: Re: KR> welding aluminum
> From: jose.fuen...@gmail.com
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> 
> LOL thanks, I have so many custom changes to my BD plane that anyone
> experenced with the model will note them real fast LOL.
> 
> I've been wanting to do a fly by wire design too, would be super easy, but
> I've been stuck on how to do the backup stick for manual control if
> something was to happen to the electronics.
> 
> joe
> 
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Bob Buzby <fatl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> > excellent experimental philosophy...!   LOL !
> >
> > > Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 16:51:44 -0400
> > > Subject: Re: KR> welding aluminum
> > > From: jose.fuen...@gmail.com
> > > To: kr...@mylist.net
> >  >
> > > Is the goal here to make alumn tanks?
> > >
> > > I did that for my BD4 but, I had made a cardboard mockup of the tank that
> > > fits in the hole and gave it to a shop and said MAKE IT REAL, they made
> > it
> > > real alright LOL.
> > >
> > > Next time I'm going to use that foam stuff and place a big bag in the
> > area
> > > and fill it with the foam and wait for it to harden, probably alot easier
> > to
> > > make a mold that way LOL.
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Craig Williams <kr2seaf...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > John,
> > > >
> > > > Yes, all that I have read and seen about gas welding aluminum indicates
> > > > that finessing the flame is key.  The only way to learn it is by doing
> > and
> > > > getting the feel.  I look forward to the challenge.
> > > >
> > > > Craig
> > > > www.kr2seafury.com
> > > >
> > > > --- On Tue, 11/2/10, John Caudle <jdl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: John Caudle <jdl...@yahoo.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: KR> welding aluminum
> > > > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> > > > Date: Tuesday, November 2, 2010, 4:48 PM
> > > >
> > > > Hi Craig,
> > > >
> > > > Welding aluminum with gas is about the same as using a TIG.
> > > > With gas you will also need flux. Aluminum welding takes lots of
> > practice.
> > > > I would suggest you pickup some stock that is thinner than what you
> > > > will be using to build the tank and practice. Heat control is the road
> > to
> > > > success.  When the aluminum will turn shinny one of two things will
> > happen.
> > > > 1) You make a hole.  2) You start welding.
> > > >
> > > > net.org/info.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ___
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > > Founding Father (one of and former Vice Prez) of Capital City.NET User's
> > > Group
> > > Former Microsoft MVP
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> >
> 
> 
> 
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> Group
> Former Microsoft MVP
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KR> welding aluminum

[Bob Buzby]

excellent experimental philosophy...!   LOL !

> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 16:51:44 -0400
> Subject: Re: KR> welding aluminum
> From: jose.fuen...@gmail.com
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> 
> Is the goal here to make alumn tanks?
> 
> I did that for my BD4 but, I had made a cardboard mockup of the tank that
> fits in the hole and gave it to a shop and said MAKE IT REAL, they made it
> real alright LOL.
> 
> Next time I'm going to use that foam stuff and place a big bag in the area
> and fill it with the foam and wait for it to harden, probably alot easier to
> make a mold that way LOL.
> 
> Joe
> 
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Craig Williams  wrote:
> 
> > John,
> >
> > Yes, all that I have read and seen about gas welding aluminum indicates
> > that finessing the flame is key.  The only way to learn it is by doing and
> > getting the feel.  I look forward to the challenge.
> >
> > Craig
> > www.kr2seafury.com
> >
> > --- On Tue, 11/2/10, John Caudle  wrote:
> >
> > From: John Caudle 
> > Subject: Re: KR> welding aluminum
> > To: "KRnet" 
> > Date: Tuesday, November 2, 2010, 4:48 PM
> >
> > Hi Craig,
> >
> > Welding aluminum with gas is about the same as using a TIG.
> > With gas you will also need flux. Aluminum welding takes lots of practice.
> > I would suggest you pickup some stock that is thinner than what you
> > will be using to build the tank and practice. Heat control is the road to
> > success.  When the aluminum will turn shinny one of two things will happen.
> > 1) You make a hole.  2) You start welding.
> >
> > net.org/info.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ___
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> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> Group
> Former Microsoft MVP
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KR> Flying last-night with the full-moon

[Bob Buzby]

that is: beyond perfect...   and perfectly beyond......Thank You for your 
written bliss...

> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:24:57 -0700
> From: ttcsem...@yahoo.com
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: KR> Flying last-night with the full-moon
> 
> 
> I went up last night to take log some full-moon time.   I haven't done night 
> flying in many years and can't remember ever flying with a full-moon (in a 
> civilian aircraft).  I tried a couple nights ago but between the time I 
> started my preflight and was ready to climb in for the start the weather went 
> from beautiful moon-light skies to overcast.   And I'm not slow! 
>  
> Last night was perfect.  Skies mostly clear and light and variable surface 
> winds.At around 10pm on this Saturday evening the radio traffic on tower 
> frequency was very light.My airport destination on the eastern plains of 
> Colorado was approx 55 N.miles at 101 degrees Mag Heading.   It was very 
> smooth and found I had a 20mph tailwind at about 2000agl.  The skies seemed 
> to belong to me with almost no air traffic to be seen.It seemed there was 
> plenty of highway traffic far off into the distance.I had the desire to 
> keep flying far into the night and would've if I could only tune into AM 
> radio to keep me company.
>  
> Nearing my destination I keyed 122.9 a few times and the runway lights 
> illuminated.  Coming overhead I could see the nearby Wendy's - convenience 
> store and trinket shop complex was already closed but there was another 
> convience store - gas station open across the street.   Descending into the 
> pattern I could see my moonshine shadow on the empty fields below.  I greased 
> the landing, as usual,  but at the ramp I could find no tiedown ropes or 
> chains whatsoever!   I taxied around in circles looking but found none.  
> With the lack of surface winds and apparent stable weather I decided I could 
> chance it without tying-down.  I parked next to the the only other aircraft 
> on the ramp which was chained down.  HIs windscreen was covered with dew and 
> I wondered if that would happen to my little bird.   It was approaching 
> midnight.
>  
> I walked that 1/2mile in the cold darkness to the convenience store, bought 
> goodies and coffee and headed back.   As I walked along the road some 
> country-guy stopped to offer me a ride in his pickup truck but I told him 
> "I'm just going over to the airport", pointing. 
>  
> I climbed aboard, settled things in, fired it up and continued.I could 
> kiss my motor as it runs so nicely.Taxiing toward a place for runup I 
> passed a tiedown spot with chains.  Curse.  I was concerned about having 
> enough runway to get off so on the roll I gave it 10 degrees of flaps as the 
> book suggests.   My cup of coffee was parked between my legs.  My plane 
> (bluebird) floated off nicely and climbed out over the dark treeless 
> countryside.   Turning left toward home I passed a truck-packed truck-stop 
> after a mile.   I broke out the sandwich and enjoyed the ride and view, 
> steering with my rudder pedals.
>  
> I  kept it a lower altitude to avoid the winds aloft.   I practiced some 
> instrument flying and may as well have been in a simulator as it was so 
> smooth.I passed by some car with headlights on in the middle of a large 
> field and wondered what was going on there.  
>  
> Fast-forward,  arrived at my destination, squeeked it on again made the first 
> turnoff onto the ramp and my nearby parking spot.  The tower didn't even 
> bother to say 'taxi to parking this frequency'.I forgot to say 'goodnight 
> tower' but maybe that would've made them sleepy.
>  
> I'll go somewhere else next time the moon comes around.  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
>   
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KR> progress

[Bob Buzby]

so Beautiful...you have set me to dreaming...Thank You for the post...

> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 20:01:20 +
> From: rkp...@comcast.net
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: KR> progress
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Everyone, 
> 
>  Today I got my nerve up to start cutting on the panel.Before long I realized 
> I made a mistake on the 3 1/8" cut outs, I placed them to close to each 
> other.So to fix the problem I turned the two on the bottom into 2 1/4" holes. 
> One very important thing to remember when building  a Kr, it's not messed up 
> until you can't fix it. 
> 
> Robert Pesak 
> 
> Hermitage, Tn. 
> 
> http://photobucket.com/robertskrs 
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KR> Here's something to ponder

[Bob Buzby]

i love all your crazy ideas...(i think that's how people began to fly in the 
first place...)

> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 13:44:08 -0700
> From: kr2seaf...@yahoo.com
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> CC: t...@corsair82.com
> Subject: KR> Here's something to ponder
> 
> More crazy ideas from the Sea Fury guy.  I got a million of them.  LOL
> 
> 
> I have been thinking alot about my tanks and the aluminum versions I got with 
> the plane.  Don't like them!  Heavy, no access once they are installed and I 
> don't want a header tank either.  Soo, what about using drop tanks on my 
> Seafury.  http://www.kr2seafury.com/resources/1963seafury1of4.jpg  They would 
> be 
> 10" diameter and 30 inches long and that will give me about 12-13 gal each 
> side.  Hard points 12 outside of the WAF seem to be a good spot.  The RAF 
> wing 
> is almost 48 inch chord at that point.  Flat plate area should be small so 
> the 
> only issue I see would be handling.  And the fact that I am headed for an 
> O-235 
> motor.  Which is what I will do If I need to.  My goal is still a 130kt 
> cruise.
> 
> Craig
> www.kr2seafury.com
> 
> 
> 
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KR> KR-1 Plans

[Bob Buzby]

i am happy with what i bought...Ken Rand was an amazing man...'nuff said for 
me...i learned a lot...

> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 13:29:56 -0700
> From: jdl...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Plans
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> 
> Hi Ed,
> 
> I would say they are a little better now... 8 -)
> 
> J.E. Caudle
> 
> Fenwick, WV
> 
> 363TB (On the Bench)
> <>
> 
> Early KR-1 plans were pretty cheap (cost and quality) - at least the set I 
> had -  
> <>
> 
> 
> 
> 
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KR> KR-1 Plans

[Bob Buzby]

mine cost about $70 and i Could build it, too...ji'm just not sure it would 
Fly...

> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 12:55:04 -0700
> From: mijni...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Plans
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> 
> Mine cost $15.00 if I remember right,but I could build the airplane from them.
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Ed Janssen 
> To: KRnet 
> Sent: Mon, October 18, 2010 3:00:51 PM
> Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Plans
> 
> Early KR-1 plans were pretty cheap (cost and quality) - at least the set I 
> had -  sorta gave you an idea how to put the plane together, leaving much to 
> the imagination.  It had such detailed directions as "fit and fair the 
> aileron to the wing."
> 
> Ed J.
> 
> --
> From: "John Caudle" 
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 1:10 PM
> To: "KRnet" 
> Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Plans
> 
> > Hi Matt,
> >
> > Thanks for your reply!  It sounds like I have what you have.
> > The last change was in the 80' (I think...)
> 
> 
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KR> KR-1 Plans

[Bob Buzby]

now you have me laughing...thank you...  

my plans have no fuselage drawings...nor dimensions...

i think a few 'things' were skipped...   fit and fair ! haha !

> From: ejans...@chipsnet.com
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Plans
> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 14:00:51 -0500
> 
> Early KR-1 plans were pretty cheap (cost and quality) - at least the set I 
> had -  sorta gave you an idea how to put the plane together, leaving much to 
> the imagination.  It had such detailed directions as "fit and fair the 
> aileron to the wing."
> 
> Ed J.
> 
> --
> From: "John Caudle" 
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 1:10 PM
> To: "KRnet" 
> Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Plans
> 
> > Hi Matt,
> >
> > Thanks for your reply!  It sounds like I have what you have.
> > The last change was in the 80' (I think...)
>  
> 
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KR> Vinyl Ester

[Bob Lee]

Dan Heath wrote:

<< Anyone know where I can buy VE >>

I always got VE from Dan Diehl.  It worked out much better than the AS stuff
because he promoted it properly for the current season to give a reasonable
working time.

Regards,


Bob Lee
N52BL  KR2
Suwanee, GA  USA
92% done only 67% to go!

KR> krgathering.org

[Bob Lee]

Steve Bennett wrote:

<< Went to look at krgathering.org this evening to see if any photos were
posted of the 2010 gathering along with income/expenditures statement for
this year.  Nothing there.  Anyone know why?  >>

I know why, as I'm the webmaster for KRGathering.org.  I took over 450
images and have not had enough time to sort through them and  get them
online.  I've got them organized but have not yet made the web pages to
display them.  The  financial statement has not yet been made available to
me for posting.  I recall a post by Glenda of her photos at the gathering,
perhaps you could search the archives and find that in the mean time.

Regards,


Bob Lee
N52BL  KR2
Suwanee, GA  USA
92% done only 67% to go!

KR> dual stick assembly

[Bob Lee]

Larry Flesner wrote:
<< The general "side stick" setup has your arm laying on an arm rest and you
move the stick with wrist action.  >>

Greg Martin wrote:
<< I have had a VeriEze and of coarse they have a side stick and it is
not that sensitive.  I liked it very much. >>

There's a point here that needs to be made regarding KR sensativity.  It is
pilot induced in one of two ways:  First, from my very limited time at the
stick of a KR2 I found it initially almost uncontrolable in pitch.  As soon
as Marty Roberts took the stick back it was dead smooth.  On my second
attempt I held my elbow against my side and meerly thought about moving the
controls without actually making control movements and things were much
better.  Most of us that learned to fly in Cessnas and Pipers are accustomed
to significant control movement and control force.  A KR is just different,
not better not worse, but different.  If you get some dual time in a KR you
will quickly figure out what it needs to be controlable.  In a VariEze there
is an armrest to plant your elbow on which makes flying the Eze easy.  Bob
Muse Sr. had a center console in his KR2 for this very reason.  It's just
easier to fly a KR if your elbow is not part of the control system.  Second,
you must insure that you are in the proper CG range to keep yourself safe.
Most will agree that the front half of the published CG range in the plan is
the safe operating area to make a good flying KR.

The best way to wander through the hype about KR sensativity is to ask
someone that has several hundred hours on his KR how it flys.  To a man they
will all say great.  Most of the horor stories are from builders/pilots that
never figured out how to fly a KR safely.  Enough from me for now, I'm back
to the basement to work on my KR!

Regards,


Bob Lee
N52BL  KR2
Suwanee, GA  USA
92% done only 67% to go!

KR> Gathering Hair Dryer

[Bob Lee]

If you left your Hair Dryer at the KR Gathering rescuing a rained out cell
phone please contact me off line so I can get it back to you!

Bob Lee
mailto:  flyboyb...@gmail.com

KR> KR problem- *&%$

[Bob Lee]

Larry,

you wrote:
<< Looking back, I think I've been flying on borrowed time the last
flight or two.  I've noticed my small back up battery didn't look
right on the volt meter but everything was working o.k.  My main
battery is so hefty that I've been starting the engine and running
the pumps and the radio on it without recharging for at least an hour
or two now.  The lesson here is a gradual failure will give you hints
if you bother to pay attention.  If something doesn't seem quite
right it probably isn't. >>

You need a low voltage warning indicator.  It gives you immediate
annunciation of a failed alternator.  There is approximately a 1.5 volt
difference between a fully charged battery and the output of your
alternator.  This difference, 14 volts down to 12.5 volts gives you a
transition to monitor for safe flight.   Typically the low voltage warning
will go off around 13 volts so that when your alternator fails, you have a
fully charged battery to complete the current flight safely with battery
only operation.

You can build you own low voltage warning indicator for $10 worth of parts
using a schematic supplied by Bob Knuckles at his web site
http://www.aeroelectric.com or you can purchase a fully assembled product
from him if you desire.  He has a book "Aeroelectric Connection" that you
can purchase or you can download the pdf for free.  It is a wealth of
information that you can use to keep your bird safe.  The most significant
section of the book deals with his philosophy of reliability.  He doesn't
propose that we strive for zero failures, because failures will happen.  He
builds a case for designing an electrical system that provides the ability
to safely complete each flight to the exhaustion of available fuel on board.
A combination of information and pre-planned proceedures leads to overall
system reliability and safety of flight.  This makes the alternator failure
a maintenance item rather than a flight safety issue.  Hope all goes well
with the alternator repair so that you can fly to the Gatering.  See you in
5 days!

Regards,


Bob Lee
N52BL  KR2
Suwanee, GA  USA
92% done only 67% to go!

KR> keg

[Bob Buzby]

sheesh...was that dude serious...?  that is truly frightening...

light the fire and fly...

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> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: Re: KR> keg
> Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 16:54:30 -0500
> 
> >Quite frankly I'm getting quite sick of all this 'root beer' talk.
> >Cheers,
> 
> Me too. I doubt there will be an actual root beer on the airport.
> 
> Light the fire and tap the keg. There are only 7 days till the fun starts. 
> 
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Stevens Point, WI
> E-mail: flyk...@charter.net
> Web: www.flykr2s.com
> 
> 
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KR> Free Spruce kit and skins

[Bob Hailey]

Walt..disregard previous message..bhailey thanks






walt
- Original Message -
From: "Steven Bedford" 
To: "walt appel" ; "KRnet" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Free Spruce kit and skins


Hello Walt,

I would be interested in the kr-2 spruce kit and plywood. Has anyone made a
firm agreement of picking it up?
Where in Texas are you located? You can email me at s1bedf...@msn.com.

Thanks
Steven Bedford


> Long story short--I have asked for and received help in trying to identify
> a kit my father bought about 30 years ago and never built before he passed
> away. I think it's an early version of the KR-2 from Wick's Aircraft
> Supply. It consists of the spruce kit and some think plywood skins.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Walt
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KR> Free Spruce kit and skins

[Bob Hailey]

walt..I will pick it up if it within 200 miles of Granbury.Tx..built  a home
built aircraft years ago..the work will be excellant theropy in
retirement..send me directions and wait no longer..bob hailey..Bhailey 1@
windstream.net
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To: "walt appel" <waltap...@earthlink.net>; "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Free Spruce kit and skins


Hello Walt,

I would be interested in the kr-2 spruce kit and plywood. Has anyone made a
firm agreement of picking it up?
Where in Texas are you located? You can email me at s1bedf...@msn.com.

Thanks
Steven Bedford


> Long story short--I have asked for and received help in trying to identify
> a kit my father bought about 30 years ago and never built before he passed
> away. I think it's an early version of the KR-2 from Wick's Aircraft
> Supply. It consists of the spruce kit and some think plywood skins.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Walt
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KR> www.krgathering.org down?

[Bob Lee]

The server for krgathering.org has failed and it is being repaired.  No eta
yet for it to be back online.

Regards,


Bob Lee
N52BL  KR2
Suwanee, GA  USA
92% done only 67% to go!

KR> Fuel Tank Vent

[Bob Sauer]

I am to the point of building a new fuel tank for my new fuselage following the 
Oct 09 off airport collision with an earthern berm due to loss of engine power. 
NTSB felt the cause was improper fuel tank venting that caused a vaccuum that 
beat the gravity feed system.

My question is for someone flying with a gravity ONLY fuel system:  How did you 
vent your fuel tank?

Bob Sauer
Sun City West, AZ

KR> KR2 parts for sale

[BOB (ROBERT)]

Daniel
You did not leave contact information
I am looking for an exhaust for a VW engine , let me know
BOB 604-590-2902   bob...@telus.net
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From: "Daniel Root" <rv8...@yahoo.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 12:19 PM
Subject: KR> KR2 parts for sale


>I posted a for sale notice in early March, some of which is still 
>available.
>
>
>
>
> Canopy frame
> Wing attach fittings
> Forward deck
> Turtle deck
>
> Those
> parts are pristine.
>
> There are other
> available parts which are less pristine, but maybe somebody can use them. 
> They include a fuselage which is well past the boat
> stage.  Tail feathers are installed. The
> main spar is installed, and shaped to accept the newer airfoil.  The 
> stick, pedals, horns and cables are also installed.
>
> Pretty
> much all other airframe parts are on hand to complete this aircraft, 
> including
> retractable gear, fuel tank halves, the canopy and frame.  The canopy 
> frame needs to be repaired.  The smoked canopy has a small edge crack, but
> that's fixable too.
>
> Wing spars are fabbed and sealed with epoxy resin.
>
> Of course none of this is brand spanking new, and little of it fits the 
> KR2S which most are building, so the value
> is not what it once was. I?m not even sure that the tank is the currently
> available version.
>
> Make me an offer. Interested
> persons contact me direct. If nobody calls in on this stuff, it's going to 
> the dump.
>
> BTW, there?s a HAPI engine available too.  It?s a low time engine, but due 
> to the number
> of years it?s been sitting around, I don?t want to fly it.  I was thinking 
> of using it in a
> hovercraft.But hey, if someone wants it...
>
>
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KR> need exhaust

[BOB (ROBERT)]

I am in need of an exhaust system for a VW engine 
Thought I would ask the net before ordering from Great Plaines
BOB Lalonde
604-590-2902 
bob...@telus.net

KR> need Mosler style exhaust

[BOB (ROBERT)]

I am in need of exhaust system for my Mosler type engine
BOB Lalonde   604-590-2902bob...@telus.net

KR> Off subject.

[BOB (ROBERT)]

Here in Canada it is mandatory and yes you can be fined  ($100,000 minimum 
of liability )
I carry $3,000,000
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To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Off subject.




Charles

I may be wrong but I don't think there is any federal requirement to have 
insurance but your local authorities may require you to show proof of 
insurance to use their facilities. Our airpark requires owners to have X$ 
liability on their aircraft but guests who fly in are not required to have 
it. It only makes sense to protect yourself with liability insurance even if 
you don't want or can't afford hull insurance.

Jack Cooper

Chuckey TN.


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From: "Charles Burkholder" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2010 8:35:47 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: KR> Off subject.

Hi guys,

I'm not an aircraft owner yet so please excuse my ignorance. As an airplane 
owner are you forced to have insurance on your plane? Do you get fined etc 
if you get caught without???

Cheers,

Charles Burkholder





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KR> Re: Rotisserie

[Bob Lee]

Sid,

Regarding your comment << I'll just have to figure out some other way to
work in the interior of my KR-2 without breaking something.>>

FYI I remove the engine and then put the engine mount directly on an engine
stand forming the front half of the rotiserie.  I just use saw horses for
the tail end.

Regards,


Bob Lee
N52BL  KR2
Suwanee, GA  USA
92% done only 67% to go!

KR> (no subject)

[Bob Buzby]

old fiberglass fishin' rod...

> From: wilder_j...@msn.com
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: RE: KR> (no subject)
> Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 15:30:24 -0700
> 
> 
> Pete,
> 
> I would suggest mail order look for kite spars.. into the wind  in 
> Boulder Colorado has fiberglass wound spars 1/4 in od for about 2-3 bucks.
> 
> I hope that helps.
> 
> -Jeff
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KR> paper pilot certificate

[Bob Lee]

Mike Sylvester wrote:

<< Jeeez Joe, You must be a lot older than you look. I thought everyone had
plastic. >>

When I saw this message I was surprised becasue I thought everyone had
paper.  I used the FAA web site and updated the address on my pilot
certificate while getting a new one issued.  I had not lived at the address
on my pilot certificate for 41 years.  I guess that makes me older than Joe
looks too!

Regards,


Bob Lee
N52BL  KR2
Suwanee, GA  USA
92% done only 67% to go!

KR> DWG Needed

[Bob]

Would some one please make a copy of the inboard wing templated per dwg Rev  
2-18-83 from the dwg laveled inboard/outboard wing template, flap/hardware dwg 
and sent it to me. I will gladly reimburse you for the cost of doing so.

I cut it out of my original dwg. Dumb!

I am rebuilding after my off-airport excursion.

Thank You

Bob Sauer
12327 W Coronet Drive
Sun City West, AZ 85375

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KR> 2600cc VW/Porsche Type 4 for sale

[Bob Lee]

Peter Drake wrote:

<< What weight is the engine? >>

I've got a GPAS 2600 VW type IV engine on my KR2 and it weighed 219.  I got
that from weighing the aircraft with and without the engine and taking the
difference.  I've got an AirResearch Turbo installed so it should be
comprable.  FYI my oil cooler is on the firewall so add a few more pounds if
you've got the oil cooler on the engine.

Regards,


Bob Lee
N52BL  KR2
Suwanee, GA  USA
92% done only 67% to go!

KR> Fw:, service ceiling

[Bob Lee]

Joe,

You wrote: <>

What wing do you have on your KR (airfoil?, taper per plans?, span?).  I'm
interested in how your kr might relate to mine for altitude performance.

Regards,


Bob Lee
N52BL  KR2
Suwanee, GA  USA
92% done only 67% to go!

KR> Re: KRnet Digest, Vol 351, Issue 323

[Bob]

The shoulder harness fastening points were in the reinforced hat shelf 
behind the seats. This was in the KR Newsletter years ago and also I believe 
put out by Rand as the best way. Mine were built to this information.

The shoulder harness stayed fastened to the reinforced shelf, however, the 
shelf which was attached to the sidewalls in multiple places ripped loose 
from the top longeron (the inner one that acts as a doubler). No Glue Joint 
has been found to have failed, all torn wood.

More as I dismantle the wounded areas of the fuselage. My Nascar type 
fiberglass fuel tank withstood the crash , no leaks or cracks. Interior of 
the fuel tank is filled with Explo-Safe.

Bob Sauer
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KR> Phoenix Accident

[Bob]

October 30 started off as a beautiful, sunny day with unlimited 
ceiling/visibility and light/variable winds. After a thorough pre-flight and 
two hi-speed taxi runs, N811RJ took off. The engine was sounding excellent, 
aircraft was stable in all parameters, THEN at 300' began losing power, engine 
still running and no obvious instrument/gauge indication anything was wrong. 
Aircraft entered a left hand l5 degree turn and safely landed upon a dry flat 
area next the riverbed. UNFORTUNATELY, the aircraft slid on the light dust over 
the hard surface for over 450' and impacted an earth berm just before Camelback 
Rd. 

The plane was being flown by an excellent test pilot, who was injured, 
receiving a deep cut in the forehead, requiring 21 stitches, slight abrasions 
on his left hand. He will heal and be okay. 

Test pilot told me he lost power at 300' and the engine responded to mixture 
and throttle, just no power. Shut everything down just be landing. Impact with 
berm at about 40 mph. The shoulder harness attachment points failed, ripping 
the wooden structure from the fuselage. Damage includes spinner & plate, 2 prop 
blades, nose gear, one exhaust pipe, oil filter casting, distributor cap, main 
spar broke loose from fuselage breaking framework around it, pilot side left 
rudder pedal bent, bottom of the fuselage from firewall (firewall loose in a 
few places) to back the pilot seat torn loose.

FAA/NTSB preliminary conclusion is that the fuel tank vent was blocked 
partially somehow at altitude and caused the loss of power.

I HAVE STARTED REBUILDING.
Until I know more,

Bob


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KR> Willie Wilson

[BOB AND MONIQUE]

Willie Wilson could you contact me off the net at  bob...@telus.netThanks 
BOB Lalonde in BC Canada

KR> Replacement Brakes

[Bob]

Anyone out there have some disc brake similar to or Cleveland 30-9 that will 
fit 5" TriStar wheels w/3/4" axles?
Contact me direct at www.resa...@cox.net  with condition and price.

Was hoping to make this years gathering, but brake problems prevent this 
from happening. Everyone have a good time and safe flying. May next year!

Bob Sauer
Sun City West, AZ 


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KR> VW oil viscosity

[Bob Lee]

Mike wrote:

<>

You might want to reconsider using synthetic in a air cooled motor.  One of
the big selling points of synthetic oil is "reduced oil tempreature".
Unfortunately, this is not a good thing for us because the oil temperature
is reduced by the oil's inability to accept heat.  Therefore, the synthetic
oil cannot carry the heat to the cooler as well as petrolium oil.  This
results in an engine that is running hotter even though the oil temperature
is cooler.

When you think about it, friction is a small part of the total engine heat
compared to heat of combustion.  So even if synthetic oil reduces friction,
it does not significantly reduce the overall engine heat load.  Synthetic
oils are great for jets or water cooled engines.  In an air cooled engine
the oil system provides a significant amount of the cooling and pertolium
oil is better at transfering heat to the cooler.

Regards,


Bob Lee
N52BL  KR2
Suwanee, GA  USA
92% done only 67% to go!

KR> Can't stop "Flying Again"

[Bob Lee]

Mark Jones wrote:

<>

Mark, down here in the south, the deer sleep in the morning, they're party
deer and they stay up in the afternoon to early morning looking for fresh
props.  Dan's smart enough to know that flying is best done in the morning
to avoid a deerly departed prop!!

Congratulations Dan, you are finally past the teething stage.  Don't let
Jones talk you into getting a deer strike!

Regards,


Bob Lee
N52BL  KR2
Suwanee, GA  USA
92% done only 67% to go!