KR> OSH Schedule

[rparker]

Maybe I missed it but are their any planned KR-Net activities at OSH this year?

As luck may have it, I just happened to have some business travel scheduled in 
the region that week and am thinking about heading up on Friday for the final 
weekend.  ;--)

Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH

KR> re Wet runways in the winter

[rparker]

Are you sure it wasnt a lobster that crawled up into your undercarriage?
:--)


Reminds me of the winter day I flew up to see your plane and at 10 out I
called to see which was the active runway, I got a response and on final
wondered why the runway I was given was snow covered yet the intersecting
runway was plowed.  After correcting and landing on the plowed runway I
noticed that every airplane that was outside was on ski's. My Archer was
not equipped with ski's.

Stumpy Grinder and his wife Martha were from Portland, Maine. Every year
they went to the Portland Fair, and every year Stumpy said " Ya know
Mahtha, I'd like ta get a ride in that theah aihplane."

and every year Martha would say "I know Stumpy, but that ihplane ride
costs ten dollahs and ten dollahs is ten dollahs."

So Stumpy says " By Jeebers Mahtha, I'm 71 yeahs old, if I don't go this
time I may nevah go."

Martha replies " Stumpy, that there aihplane ride is ten dollahs...and ten
dollahs is ten dollahs."

So the pilot overhears them and says " Folks, I'll make you a deal, I'll
take you both up for a ride, if you can stay quiet for the entire ride and
not say ONE word, I won't charge you, but just one word and it's ten
dollars."

They agree and up they go the pilot does all kinds of twists and
turns, rolls and dives, but not a word is heard, he does it one more time,
still nothing... so he lands.

He turns to Stumpy as they come to a stop and says " By golly, I did
everything I could think of to get you to holler out, but you didn't."

And Stumpy replies " Well, I was gonna say something when Mahtha fell
out...but ten dollahs is ten dollahs!


Rich Parker

Peterborough, NH

KR> Formation Flying

[rparker]

Sorry this isnt kr related but I couldnt bear not to share some great
pictures and fun flying experience with you all.

After about an 11 months of flying nothing but PIC (Passenger in Coach) I
managed to get some stick time this past saturday doing formation
aerobatics in a Romanian built Yak-52 for almost 4 hours. The Yak is what
the russian military used to train their jet pilots. ONe of my partners in
my 172 XP bought the Yak about a year ago. undoubtedly the best aerobatic
plane you can buy for under $60K. I can see a big argument with my wife in
the near future.  I've never been inverted so many times. My camera was
stuck up on the mid section canopy when my canopy section slid open. thank
god for a strong 5 point harness. I had no intention of actually using the
parachute I was wearing.

Pics can be viewed at [LINK: http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/]
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com

Rich Parker

Peterborough, NH

KR> good to be in the air again

[rparker]

I looked at my log book this morning and the last time I flew my plane was
Dec 18th :-( my 100+ hours this year has been PIC ( passenger in Coach)

however I got the chance today to fly (GIB) in a friends Yak-52 Russion
aerobatic trainer today.  [LINK:
http://homepage.mac.com/steve.fox/PhotoAlbum5.html]
http://homepage.mac.com/steve.fox/PhotoAlbum5.html

There were 3 Yak-52' doing almost 4 hours of up to + and - 5 g aerobatic
formation flying near Glens Falls NY. I'm am exhausted!   Hopefully the
pictures I took in the loops and rolls will come up.  My butt was
puckering up pretty tight. We were inverted in a negative G pull at 180
knots, and my camera had floated up and stuck up against the canopy (there
was no way I could hold onto it, I was busy leaving my fingerprints on the
rear instrument) and the canopy slid open. almost lost the camera. It
probably would have hit the plane behind us. I'll admit I had to puke a
little bit of coffee in my glove at the end of the last sortie to keep
from making a mess of the back seat and the brand new parachute I was
wearing. I'm sure glad I didnt have to use the chute  8-)

Rich Parker

Peterborough, NH

KR> re: Fuel pump backup

[rparker]

Sounds like automating your back up fuel pump would be a good idea.

Their are a few different methods I can think of to do this. Monitoring
your fuel pressure with a pressure switch which can then activate an
annunciator light as well as the back up pump or measuing the current to
the main pump, to do the same.

Rich Parker

Peterbrough NH

New garage is almost complete so I guess I can get back to building. :-)

[LINK: http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/] http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com

KR> Getting rid of metal airplane

[rparker]

FYI,

For any metal airplane lurkers on the list or anyone who cant wait to get
their KR completed and wants to fly in the meantime, I just put my Titan
Tornado project up for sale on E-bay so that I can focus on my KR.

The e-bay item number is 4569007768

Rich Parker

KR> Re: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 292

[rparker]

I'm not sure if its still kosher to sell KR and Aviation related parts up here 
but I just put a Warp Drive prop item #  4566322010 and a Garmin 190 GPS Nav 
Com item number 4566319361 up for sale on E-bay.

Rich Parker

KR> Re: over the hump!

[rparker]

Mark, 

Dont get too comfortable to let your guard down.

Rich Parker 

Peterborough, NH

>

Message: 11
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:16:51 -0500
From: "Mark Langford" 
Subject: KR> over the hump!
To: "KRnet" 
Cc: Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft 
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

...Bottom line is that I'm no longer afraid of this thing and feel like 
I'm going to make it as a contributing KR pilot and Corvair tester after all.  
I'm with ya...

KR> Harbor Freight

[rparker]

I'd argue that statement that "Chinese tools arent near the quality required to 
build an airplane" as I'd bet everybody on this list is using chinese made 
tools and doesnt even know it. Craftsman power tools are still made by Ryob as 
they have been for years. You could use Sears as proof that chinese tools can 
be just as good as american given a good quality control plan. Even the 
"Japanese"tools are being made in China. I travel to Japan frequently and they 
are outsourcing just as we are due to high cost of living. 

I just built a 2 story addition with $99 pneumatic nailing guns from Harbor 
Freight. I then lent one to my friend who's $300 porter cable gun broke. He put 
them side by side and couldnt tell the difference apart from the color. For 
that price I considered it disposable and I would be happy if it got me through 
that one job. even after dropping it onto my driveway from 17 feet up, it 
worked fine after being straightened by a few blows by a calibrated hammer.  

I have an educated intelligent Chinese engineer who works for me and she'll 
tell you there are 1.3 billion people in China very motivated to increase their 
standard of living and they know its not by producing inferior products. They 
know the value of improving their quality and are working hard to do it. 

I've ordered lots of tools from harbor freight which have been made in China, 
Russia etc. some havent been as good as I'd like however the price of the tool 
met the mission it was intended to meet. 

The quality of your workmanship shouldnt depend on a tool whether it be a spoon 
or a tablesaw.  

Rich Parker 

Peterborough, NH

>>

Message: 7
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 18:13:41 -0500
From: "Robert L. Stone" 
Subject: KR> Foreign made tools
To: "KR Builders Pilots" 
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Builders
 Be very carful about buying tool from discount houses.  Most of the tools 
they sell are made in China, or Tiwan and a lot of them are not anywhere near 
the quality that is required to build an aircraft or anything else for that 
matter.  Someone advised the purchase of a band saw should be from Sears and I 
agree because the reason stated was replacement parts availability.  Also the 
quality of most of the power tools available from countries in the far east are 
below standard.  Buy the best even if you have to save up.  I have a drill 
press made by Rockwell that is 37 years old, and still very much serviceable.  
My large combination belt/disk sander is a craftsman and its 33 years old. My 
grinder is a Craftsman and it's 33 years old also and all I have ever replaced 
is the stone wheels.  Quality tools will last a lifetime and the extra cost is 
well worth the quality and durability

Bob Stone, Hareker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com

KR> KR's and Wives

[rparker]

I had to forward those comments to my wife and ask her the question "which one 
do you resemble?"
Unfortunately I'm in basically in the same boat as Mark J.

I wonder what the percentage of completed homebuilts is for single men is vs 
married men...

Rich Parker

Peterborough, NH

>I drove my wife's  Audi to tow the plane, while she followed in my GTI.
>Then we ran back home and each carried a wing back.  She helped me get the
>wings installed, and afterward gave me a big hug and said something like
>"welcome to your dream"...

>Mark,
>You have a real jewel of a wife there. Many of us envy you. Tell Jeannie we 
>are proud that she supports you so. >Through my seven years of building, my 
>wife never supported me. As a matter of fact, there were a couple of >times 
>she threatened the plane with a chain saw. Now that it is flying, she is 
>starting to show more pride in it in >the fact that we now own an airplane. 
>Funny thing is that she told me I should upgrade to a larger plane so we as >a 
>family can go places. HaI am going places in my KR. She can drive..

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI

KR> Project update - Low Cost KR?

[rparker]

I need to update my building page as  I'm still building although VERY slowly.  
- 

Last spring I decided that my 24x24 garage wasnt big enough for building an 
airplane and other toys so I decided to build a 2 story 3 car garage - 24'x40'  
Did everything myself from digging and pouring the foundation right up to the 
cupola. Entitled - "How I Spent My Summer, Fall, Winter, Spring Vacation"  
giving me a grand total of almost 2800 square feet of workspace + 1800 square 
feet of living space - but thats the wifes domain. 

The KR2S is in there under a parachute however in the process I managed to add 
to the collection an ARF Titan Tornado, Rotax 582, 2 snowmobiles 4 dirtbikes 
buying (another one today) and lots of air tools, welding equipment, trailers, 
etc.   Had to buy the wife a new mercedes to shut her up - I also lost a bay to 
that 

I'll never buy another house with anything less than a 5 car garage!

Although I think I'll have one of the lowest cost Kr's, the accessories and 
activities during the building process probably come to about $130k !  If she 
had really crunched the numbers she would have been smarter to let me buy that 
Cirrus!

Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/

Message: 4
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 17:43:00 -0800 (PST)
From: Ron Smith 
Subject: KR> Looking at the list
To: kr...@mylist.net
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Kr's under construction, I see alot of projects that have not been updated in 
years. I was wondering if these guys lost their digital cameras 
or,..lost interest?

Dave Mullins? That guy building the Italian job?  Updates?

Just wondering...it's Friday after all.

Ron Smith,
Kr2s creeping along.

KR> Re: Blue foam

[rparker]

I used locally purchased pink foam and an electric palm sander with pretty good 
results. the paper needs to be fairly agressive and keep it moving. sanding by 
hand would take years though!

Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/

---Original Message---

> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 05:43:03 -0600
> From: "Mark Jones" 
> Subject: KR> Re: Blue Foam
> To: "KR Net" 
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Advice from experienceMy tail feathers are Dow Corning blue
> polystyrene 2lb density that I bought from a builder supply. I cursed mine
> the whole time I was sanding the foam to the airfoil shape. I would be
> willing to bet that I spent at least five hours just sanding the foam to
> shape. Yes, that blue foam is inexpensive and easy to get but unless you are
> a pro at hot wiring foam and have the correct hot wiring equipment, I would
> not ever use the blue foam. I tried hot wiring mine before sanding and
> screwed that up also. Had to remove the foam, install more, hot wired it
> again to rough shape and then started sanding. Trust me, the blue foam does
> not sand as easily as the polyurethane does. I still have a full sheet of
> 4'x8'x2" blue foam that anyone can have if they come and get it.
> 
> I am off to the airport right now for a full day of KR
> YeeHaa!!!
> 
> Mark Jones (N886MJ...FIRST FLIGHT made 3-20-2005)
> Wales, WI  USA
> E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
> http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html

KR> Re: Parachutes Vs Ballistic chutes

[rparker]

The Far's havent caught up regarding ballistic parachutes for good reason. 

A ballistic parachute and a (personal) parachute serve 2 different functions. 
The ballistic parachute is used to slow the decent of a (crippled?) airplane 
(and possibly its occupants)  while a parachute functions to slow the decent of 
the person wearing it. 

Far's require one to wear a parachute if certain pitch and bank limits are 
exceeded - as a result of pilots going inverted after forgetting to put on 
their seat belts and inadvertantly falling out of the airplane, or if the 
occupant needs to exit the aircraft, such as in a structural failure where no 
(BRS exists) or a fire. A BRS sure isnt going to help you in a fire. 

Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/

KR> Re: Sport Aviation

[rparker]

Good artice on Steves plane. We all need to write and remind sport aviation 
that this aircraft is what homebuilt aircrafts are all about - not snap 
together RV type kits. 

$12.2k sounds pretty good but I'll, have that beat by a few K.  It helps to 
have picked up a completely rebuilt corvair engine for $208, a warp drive prop 
for $150, GPS/Com for $300, Diehl gear for $150, wheels, brakes, brakes 
cylinders for $150 (all from crashed planes)  and used local building supply 
for foam. The biggest money items I bought were dragonfly canopy, and Deihl 
skins for $2k total. You have to be in a position to act quick when the 
opportunities arise to get the best deal. 

Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/

KR> (no subject)

[rparker]

good update Mark, 

for the rest of you: 
I think Mark L figured out the marketing secret for these kitplane 
manufacturers when they publish their build times. 

Just like Mark L has on his web site = "hands on time only" divided by 3.  
(Said he built everthing 3 times) 

4800/ 3 = 1600 !   

Therefore anybody can build a KR in less than a year !

If anybody thinks Mark has anything less than 48 thousand hours planning, 
designing, redesighing, working on, drawing, publishing, assisting other 
buildersetc... their nuts!  He's got more KR expertise than Ken Rand. I think 
I'm going to refer to my airplane project at the ML2S  

you cant kid a kidder Mark!

:--)

Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/ 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
Behalf Of Mark Langford
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 10:56 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> teeny weeny project update

Sorry to interupt all the very informative lamination and parachute threads,
but a few of you might be interested in
http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/#update .

What we need is a few good Rustoleum posts...

Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
see homebuilt airplane at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net

KR> Soda for gathering

[rparker]

My vote is for Yueng Ling -  but its got to be from the Pottsville PA plant! 
That cheap immitation Yueng Ling they make in Florida and distribute down south 
is horrible

For those of you who think we are speaking Chinese visit 
http://www.yuengling.com/

I'd think somebody on this list could manufacture some immitation bombs that 
would hang off the main spar and could also accept a tap!  

That would be a moneymaker at sun and fun, Oshkosh, etc ! 

Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/ 

KR> So Cal

[rparker]

greetings from muddy California 

I seem to remember a few KR-pilots listing as being at Corona airport. I hope 
you got your planes out. 

If you are planning on landing at Corona Airport anytime soon make sure you 
strap your floats on and wear your hip boots.  

Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/

KR> poweder coating

[rparker]

FYI, 

Just saw an ad for a powder coating system for $89
75 high temerperature paint colors available. 

http://www.hotcoat.com

Rich Parker 
Peterborough, NH

KR> Buying another aircraft kit

[rparker]

Never can have too many airplanes just too many wives. 

Santa came a couple of days early.  I just bought (more like stole) an almost 
ready to fly Titan Tornado 1 project for $2k delivered. The kit alone sells for 
$10,590.  Got to break the news to my wife before it shows up.

I'm going to have to buy her a big ice scraper for her car as she isnt going to 
be able to park in the new garage this winter, I dont even have the garage 
doors hung and its full - 2 airplanes, 4 motorcycles, 2 snowmobiles, tractor, 
snowblower, etc. 

Merry Christmas

Rich Parker
Peterborough NH

KR> Quad input corvair

[rparker]

Has anyone ever talked to William Wynne about drilling 2 more intake holes in 
the intake manifolds. There was an article years ago showing great horsepower 
gains as a result. Just wondering what his take is on it. 

Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH

KR> new KR on E-bay

[rparker]

looks like a winner. has flown and has 3 engines, lots of parts.  located in 
Michigan  (its not mine)

Ebay Item number: 4505340085

Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/

KR> Re: Dog tale

[rparker]

Having a chocolate and a yellow lab myself I can share your pain. 

Make yourself a nice big wooden box with a hinged lid and a sign that says 
"leave packages here" and place it by the door. 

Its easier to train the Fed Ex Man than a stubborn lab.


Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/

KR> Re: Steve Glovers Seats

[rparker]

 I've been contemplating how I'm going to do my seat covers and was sharing 
Marks latest gathering pics (Steve Glovers seats) with a guy here who came up 
with the irrigation pipe fuel tank idea, and happens to dumpster dive at 
automobile dealerships a lot and we've figured it out.

Seems that when heated seat heaters dont work the dealers strip off the nicely 
stitched leather which has about an inch of foam on it and they replace the 
heaters and seat covers. The perfectly good seat covers go in the dumpster. My 
friend has a half dozen pairs in assorted colors. With only some minor 
stitching for controls and a standard sling seat or composite support 
underneath, they will work quite nicely 

Also he mentioned that there are a lot of 400 cubic inch high performance race 
cars that have resorted to using 2 garden tractor batteries to save weight. if 
they can start that big an engine, I guess a corvair shouldnt be out of the 
question.

Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/

KR> Lonely

[rparker]

Wow, it sounds great already. I'm stuck taking a class at MIT this week and 
cant make it.  

Cant wait to see Mark Langfords pictures though. I hope the exitement carries 
through to make next years gathering even better. 

Just the fact that Mark langford's plane will be there next year should raise 
enough interest to bring everyone back plus more. I wont miss it. 

Its going to be lonely here on the krnet for the next few days. :--(

Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/

KR> re:KR project for sale

[rparker]

Forget his airplane, click onto his home page and check out the chicks in his 
"Daytona" folder!

Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/

List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 22:28:08 -0500
From: "Mark Jones" 
Subject: KR> KR project for sale
To: "KR Net" 
Message-ID: <002c01c49df8$b6f3d5a0$6401a...@wi.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

One of the most unique KR projects is again up for sale. The owner has decided 
that his place in aviation is in partnership with another on a certified plane. 
This plane is truly a work of craftsmanship and will definitely be an 
eyecatcher. It is one of the most highly modified KR fuselages out there. 
Please take a close look and contact Steve McGee at lmc...@maqs.net  if you are 
interested. See the e-mail below.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI  USA 
E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at   
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html


- Original Message - 
From: Steve and Lori McGee 
To: Mark Jones 
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 7:12 PM
Subject: KR project for sale


Mark - please forward to the KRnet - thanks.

KR project for sale.  Over $5000 invested and many hours.  $2000 hauls it away. 
 Much hardware and supplies.  Virtually enough to keep you busy for the winter 
with no other purchases.  Foam, aluminum for tanks, epoxy and glass, steel, 
aluminum, canopy, enough to near finish the airframe without another 
expediture.  If you are thinking of starting a KR project and want a fast and 
inexpensive start, this is the one!  All receipts and pics that were taken will 
be passed on also.  

No I do not want to bother piecing out.  All or nothing.
Located in Central Wisconsin.
Steve McGee  608-587-2359  cell 608-697-8488  e-mail  lmc...@maqs.net  
See project at http://www.geocities.com/magoosus/plane.html
Just in time to start a project for the winter!

KR> New Mystery Navy jet

[rparker]

FYI, 

I just received 2 picture of what could be the Aurora aircraft. 

I have a couple of friends looking into it. I posted them to one of my 
websites. thought you guys might be interested in seeing it if you havent 
already.


http://www.vsoep.com/Aurora1.jpg

http://www.vsoep.com/Aurora2.jpg

Anybody think they can make their KR look like it?

Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH

KR> Aurora

[rparker]

Ok the gig is up.  I was thinking there was no way that a mach 7 aircraft could 
have that much wing area and especially aileron.

I was told it was a cardboard mock up for a movie and sent another picture.

Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/

KR> Primer lines to Engine

[rparker]

Ask Mark Jones about primers at the gathering.

Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/

KR> Z24 dist

[rparker]

I dont see why that wouldnt work, just need to marry the Z24 distributor to a 
shaft with gear from the engine you are using. Dan woodward from KnightHawke 
Gyrocopters used to take a ford escort distributor and use it in his soob EA-81 
and EJ-22's  

Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/

>>
a nissan z24 motor has 8 spark plugs two per cly, two coils the cap has two 
coil posts and fire the plugs at the same time. I dont know if you could fit 
ine of these to a 009 dist but its worth a try. put in the pickups and 240sx  
Go 
look at one at pepboys, wild looking
>Am I only dreaming, or does someone know of a single distributor, twin
> point, separate ignition that will fit a type 4 VW?? for the 8 spark set
up.
> Instead of using a Mag.


Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/

KR> re: Flight time

[rparker]

Thats not correct. taxi time is included in your PIC hours. 

Simulator time can also be logged. Simulators dont have "N" numbers  therefore 
I would think  your "experimental simulator" should also be valid. You cant get 
a better simulator than what you have. Check with your CFI and look in the 
Far/Aim.

Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/


>>>
i think that it is only the Flight time that counts, Virg

Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/

KR> Re: Bill Clapp's KR2S

[rparker]

Sweet! 

This was just what I needed to see to get me back building Thanks!

Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/

.


For those of you that can't wait to see Bill Clapp's plane at the Gathering,
see http://www.krnet.org/krs/wc/ .

KR> (no subject)

[rparker]

Only 10 1/2 months ago  Now I'm really juiced. I'm leaving work early.

Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/



That's a great looking KR!  I can't wait to see it in person in Mt. Vernon.
To appreciate just how hard Bill has worked, here is the stage his KR was in
just 10 1/2 months ago when I drove out to see it!  It just shows you how
quickly you can build these planes.  Now, we just got get Bill to tell us
his secret at the gathering   :-)

http://www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/Bill_Clapp_KR2S.html

Dean Cooper
Jacksonville, FL
Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net
See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html

KR> PVC Fuel tanks

[rparker]

A guy at work had a great suggestion. Instead of using PVC wing tanks we could 
use aluminum thin walled aggricultural tubing. the stuff used in the giant 
travelling irrigators. It comes in standard sizes from 2 to 12 inch diameter, 
from .050 to 094 wall thickness.  I think you can get end fittings as well or 
have it welded.

http://www.hipco-ne.com/scope.htm

Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/

KR> (no subject)

[rparker]

Dress them up to look like bombs ! 

Just be careful flying to the northeast - We have fighters running up here down 
the Connecticut river along the Vermont/NH border. I think they are trying to 
keep the Vermonters out of the USA. And stay out of sight of the nuke plants! 
;--)

Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/

Message: 10
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 10:14:32 -0500
From: "Mark Langford" 
Subject: Re: KR> PVC Fuel tanks
To: "KRnet" 
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Rich Parker wrote:

>> A guy at work had a great suggestion. Instead of using PVC wing tanks we
could use aluminum thin walled aggricultural tubing. the stuff used in the
giant travelling irrigators. It comes in standard sizes from 2 to 12 inch
diameter, from .050 to 094 wall thickness. <<

You just won "most useful post" with that one!  That's exactly what I'll
need if I ever decide to add some range with wing tanks.  A 60" long tube 6"
in diameter would give me over 7 gallons, all of which would be usable.  One
in each wing would have to be considered "ultra long endurance".  They'd be
practically wieghtless, except for the fuel...

Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
N56ML at hiwaay.net
see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford

KR> "explosafe" foam

[rparker]

I also looked into that. My good friend is a cheif engineer for Rogers Foam who 
used to supply explosion proof foams to the military for fuel tanks and others. 
His exacts words were "they got out of that business, we tried them all and 
they all shed particles that clog fuel lines"

Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/

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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 12:39:01 -0400
From: "Allen Wiesner " 
Subject: Re: KR> PVC Fuel tanks
To: "KRnet" 
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>> A guy at work had a great suggestion. Instead of using PVC wing tanks we
could use aluminum thin walled agricultural tubing. the stuff used in the
giant traveling irrigators. It comes in standard sizes from 2 to 12 inch
diameter, from .050 to 094 wall thickness. <<

>You just won "most useful post" with that one!

I agree, but with a question.  Would the "explosafe" type foam filler act as
a baffle?  if not, what would we use for slosh baffles?

Allen G. Wiesner  KR-2SS/TD S/N 1118
65 Franklin Street
Ansonia, CT  06401-1240

(203) 732-0508

flash...@usadatanet.net

KR> foam and radial engines

[rparker]

I've done the same (pink foam and West Systems) from my local building supply. 
I flew in KR Kip's KR2 years ago and it was completed in 1985 with pink foam 
and is still flying today. I hot wired (albeit poorly in my kr-youth) my 
empenage and power sanded my turtledecks with great success. 

BTW, I managed to pick up a case for a small 9 cylinder radial engine. Its 
about 14 inches in diameter. I'm bringing it into work to see if we can manage 
to whip up a 9 cylinder 2 stroke radial. An engine guy at work thinks we  can 
get close to a couple hundred horsepower for under 200 lbs.


Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/


List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 07:13:51 -0400
From: "patrusso" 
Subject: Re: KR> polystyrene
To: "KRnet" 
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I have used blue and pink styrofoam insulation directly from the local
building supply store for my entire aircraft Using West System Epoxy, I
slurried after vacuuming thoroughly, squeege off the slurry, lightly lay in
a coat of  straight epoxy, apply 6 oz. clothe and squeege again. So far so
good!
Pat in Vermont
- Original Message -
From: "Stephen Jacobs" 
To: "'KRnet'" 
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 12:50 AM
Subject: RE: KR> polystyrene

KR> DAR visit

[rparker]

Mark, 

Can you review for us what paperwork he required and looked at?


Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/

KR> Project and parts for sale

[rparker]

I put up a ragwing special project for sale on e-bay if anone knows someone 
that might be interested. 

The parts alone are worth much more than my asking price.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2488410668&ssPageName=ADME:B:LC:MT:1


Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/

KR> Re: To The Airport

[rparker]

You'll sleep better knowing the kids wont be able to poke any holes in it. :--)

Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark Jones 
  To: KR Net ; 
Corvaircraft 
  Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 2:36 PM
  Subject: KR> To The Airport


  Here is a link of some photos of moving my KR to the airport.
  
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/toairport.html

  Mark Jones (N886MJ)
  Wales, WI  USA 
  E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
  Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at   
  http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html

KR> Re: To The Airport/escape from kids

[rparker]

I currently have a drawing chalked on the side of my plane and used to have a 
completed elevator. now its in need of repair. 

Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/

   ---Original Message---
   > From: David Mullins 
   > Subject: Re: KR> Re: To The Airport
   > Sent: Aug 30 2004 17:40:19
   >
   >  Rich,
   >  
   >  Does that advice come from experience?
   >  
   >  Dave Mullins
   >  Nashua, New Hampshire
   >  
   >  rparker wrote:
   >  
   >  >You'll sleep better knowing the kids wont be able to poke any holes in 
it. :--)
   >  >
   >  >Rich Parker
   >  >Peterborough, NH
   >  >rpar...@wwhotspots.com
   >  >http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/
   >  >
   >  >  
   >  >
   ---Original Message---

KR> Kitplanes - 20 most influential

[rparker]

Nice to see Ken Rand finally got some recognition for developing the KR. This 
months Kitplanes continues to list the 20 most influential people of the 
homebuilt industry. Unfortunately its listed as an "industry" 

I happen to think that all homebuilt airplanes are descendants of the KR.
Even those darn RV's, - however they just lost a chromasone somewhere along the 
line - 

RV-4 compared to a F4U Corsair ? come on!  Sorry - Dana I cant resist. 

Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/

KR> Re: aluminum honeycomb

[rparker]

FYI, anyone near texas might be interested in this aluminum honeycomb. Its 
being used on the new beebe aircraft.

I'm not the seller nor know the seller.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=61597&item=3834043107&rd=1

Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH  

KR> Linear Actuator

[rparker]

FYI, 

Mark Jones turned me on to a linear actuator for his belly flap and I managed 
to find a decent looking one for $110  + $22 for a nice 2 way rocker switch and 
relays from Wizard Automotive in Fla. I believe the units sell for $280 through 
the company that makes that flying peice of cookie cutter sheet metal that Dana 
has in his garage. - Those things took up entirely too much real estate at OSH 
! you've seen one, you've seen them all. ;--) 

12vdc, 13 inches of travel, 110 pounds of force.  Be careful you dont bind it 
against something or it will rip itself off its mounts!

I can send pictures or more info if desired. (I'm not selling them)

I did however pickup locally a Ragwing Special project from a family that the 
builder passed away.  I'll let it go to a Kr net member for my cost of $1500. 
engine prop, gear etc included.  I figure their is less than 150 hours of build 
time left and it should be worth between $12 and $15K 

E-mail me at rpar...@wwhotspots.com for details.

Rich Parker
Peterborough, NH

KR> corvair and Oshkosh

[rparker]

Couple of unrelated questions. 

1. Has anyone figured out the maximum angle forwards and backwards that a 
corvair engine with stock oil pan can be tipped before starving the fuel pump 
pickup?

2. Is the KR crowd oshkosh schedule posted anywhere? I know there has probably 
been discussion but I missed it. I'm flying to Illinois on Monday and havent 
yet decided if I'm going to hang around and go up for opening day. If there is 
beer and brats available Monday or Tuesday night I might swing up there.

Rich Parker
KR-2S
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com

KR> the 'killer turn'

[rparker]

You forgot option 3: if you are turning base to final, you probably dont have 
enough altitude to recover so bend over and kiss your a@% goodbye.

Although its no longer mandatory training, I'd recommend stall spin training. 

If you've never done spins, the first one you ever do will give you a much 
better appreciation for stalls than just recovering from a little wing 
buffetting.  the first time I spun, I was practicing take off stalls and 
started from too fast of a simulated takeoff speed and put my 172XP on its 
back, then went into a spin. Although I verbally went through my spin recovery 
- opposite rudder, retrard throttle, forward stick, I was hauling back on the 
stick as hard as I could while repeating "forward stick" as the ground was 
spinning faster and faster in my windscreen. Fortunately my buddy (a CFI) told 
me to let go of the stick.

Rich Parker
Peterborough,NH


   ---Original Message---
   > From: larry flesner 
   > Subject: KR> the 'killer turn'
   > Sent: Jul 06 2004 09:28:28
   >
   >  After my novel on the "A of A / stall" post I visited my "reading room"
   >  and realized I should have touched on one more thing, the "killer
   >  turn" and how it relates to A of A / stall.
   >  
   >  That's generally the turn from base to final where we find ourselves
   >  overshooting the runway centerline.  I've done it many times when
   >  not allowing for wind or not starting the turn soon enough.
   >  
   >  Our reaction is generally to increase the bank angle to vector more
   >  lift forces in the direction of the turn to increase the turn rate.  This
   >  requires more lift to maintain our current rate of decent so we
   >  increase the back pressure (more pitch for more A of A).  We usually
   >  are adding more "inside the turn rudder" also  which causes us to
   >  be "cross-controlling" which really bites us if we stall.  Anyway,
   >  the further off centerline we drift the more we bank to correct and
   >  we keep adding back pressure (increasing the A of A) to maintain
   >  our rate of decent and increase the rate of turn.  At some point
   >  we will exceed the ability of the wing to generate enough lift at
   >  that indicated airspeed to do what we want because we have reached
   >  the stall A of A.  Our over use of "inside the turn" rudder will generally
   >  cause the "inside the turn" wing ( the low wing) to stall first and
   >  it tucks under, rolling us inverted and turning us into a dust ball.
   >  
   >  When you find yourself in that situation you have two options.  With
   >  either option you must keep the A of A below the stall angle.
   >  
   >  #1 (and generally not the best one) is to increase your speed
   >  so you can generate more lift at a lower A of A.  You can do
   >  this with power, usually a slow response, or lower the nose
   >  to pick up speed.  When you lower the nose (less A of A) there
   >  is less lift being generated and thus less drag so the aircraft
   >  accellerates.  At a higher airspeed we can return to a higher
   >  bank angle and increase our A of A to save the turn if we had
   >  enough altitude for the maneuver and don't go beyond the stall
   >  A of A.  When low to the ground this thought seldom
   >  crosses our mind.  That's why you've been pulling back on the
   >  stick (yoke) to begin with.  
   >  
   >  # 2 (the best if terrain is not a concern) is to forget trying to
   >  save the turn and the approach.  Roll to wings level so that
   >  all lift generated can be used to check the rate of decent.
   >  With all lift generate at 90 degrees to the ground we don't
   >  need such a high A of A to generate enough lift to check
   >  our decent at the slower airspeed.  Fly out of the situation
   >  and do a better job on the approach next time.  Keep the
   >  A of A below the stall angle and you won't find youself
   >  eating dirt.
   >  
   >  Terrain and/or brain lock are the killers.  We either go brain
   >  dead and keeping pulling back on the yoke until we reach
   >  the stall A of A  /OR/  we have flown into a situation where
   >  terrain keeps us from rolling level and vectoring all lift
   >  to check our rate of decent.  That could be lack of altitude or
   >  landing below surrounding terrain.  The key is to not get yourself
   >  into that situation to begin with and ,if you do, take corrective
   >  action before you run out of options.  Keep the A of A below the
   >  stall angle and if you don't hit the ground you can try it again.
   >  
   >  Question:  Can you stall an airplane, while inverted, by pulling back
   >  on the stick.  
   >  Answer:  Yes, with enough pitch forces to place the wing at a higher
   >  A of A then the stall angle will cause the wing to stall, even if
   >  inverted.  This can happen easily, such as the top of a loop, if
   >  some of the initial back pressure on the stick is not released.
   >  This of course differs from airplane to airplane and is depen

KR> Ellison

[rparker]

I was just reading an article in the may issue of Sport Aviation about a guy 
who bought a pitts with an ellison and he explained that the engine will run 
with the Ellison at full mixture lean. page 58. 2nd, paragraph.

I'd be interested in what the engine shut down procedure is in the checklist.

FYI.   I'm in the process of completing an addition to my house. a 24 x 40 
3-1/2 car garage.
My wife thinks I did it for the 920 square foot master bedroom suite above, 
however its really just designed for more airplane working space. I used 
TJI-560 engineered joists so I have no lally columns. Great for completely 
assembling my plane with wings attached ! I'd recommend nothing less to new 
builders. :-)

Rich Parker
KR2S
Peterborough, NH
rpar...@wwhotspots.com
http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/

KR> Reduction Drive Unit

[rparker]

I have a 172 XP that has 11 inches of clearance and I feel thats cutting it 
close.  

   ---Original Message---
   > From: Wood, Sidney M. 
   > Subject: RE: KR> Reduction Drive Unit
   > Sent: 09 Jun 2004 12:28:38
   >
   >  Tony Bengelis in his engine installation book, "Bengelis On Engines" 
(available from www.eaa.org or www.aircraftspruce.com ) recommends 9" minimum 
prop clearance.
   >  Sid Wood, KR-2 N6242
   >  Mechanicsville, MD USA
   >  sidney.w...@titan.com
   >  
   >  
   >  -Original Message-
   >  From:  krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]  On 
Behalf Of virginia
   >  Sent:  Tuesday, June 08, 2004 1:49 AM
   >  To:KRnet
   >  Subject:   KR> Reduction Drive Unit
   >  
   >  I like the idea of a reduction drive unit, to swing a larger, hence more
   >  efficient prop. My concern is the ground clearnce, which at the monet 
looks
   >  like some 6". What should be a minimum here?
   >  
   >  PETER WASTNEY ENGINEERING LTD
   >  222 Wakapuaka Road
   >  RD1
   >  Nelson
   >  
   >  Tel: 03 545 0848
   >  Fax: 03 545 0848
   >  Web: www.pwe.co.nz
   >  
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KR> Re: bolts and screws into aluminum should be heli-coiled

[rparker]

its Anti seize lubricant you can get it at any parts store. looks like aluminum 
dust suspended in silicone grease.

Rich Parker
Peterborough,NH USA

http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/~theparkers/kr/kr.htm

   ---Original Message---
   > From: Dan Heath 
   > Subject: KR> Re: bolts and screws into aluminum should be heli-coiled
   > Sent: Jun 10 2004 05:13:23
   >
   >  You do need "case savers" for your head studs, but I have never had them 
for
   >  plugs or anything else. There is a special grease that you should apply to
   >  the threads of your plugs, but I am having a senior minute and can't think
   >  of what it is called.
   >  
   >  See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics
   >  
   >  "There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for
   >  building has long since expired."
   >  
   >  Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC
   >  
   >  See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering
   >  
   >  See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org
   >  
   >  
   >  
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