KR> BMW BOXER ( candidate ? )

2008-10-12 Thread phil brookman
bmw over here ie r100 65 70 hp version ahev been used for a/c but twith a 
few problems --exhaust valves failing ,

last i heard they were looking ointo sodium filled variety
phil
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> Hey folks .James here . Been a lurker for several years now  .Haven't 
> surfaced for three or four of them !  I've been sitting on the fence " 
> forever "  with regards to power plant selection for the KR . Like every 
> one else , I've watched all types of  venders, ideas and trends come , and 
> then go ! About the mid nineties , Hans Mayer  ( Contact # 45 , RAA rec 
> flyer May 1996 ) was suggesting the BMW boxer engine with one of his 
> custom belt drives . Heck if I was going to disagree with Hans(  !!? ) - 
> but it did seem like quite a stretch . Anyway Hans went on to explain that 
> the KR only needed   18 horses  to maintain altitude .( whoa ) Can any one 
> explain this ? Did he mean the KR-1 , or the original KR-2 - at just over 
> 500 lbs ?  So why the interest in just two jugs now ? Over the years I've 
> noted that even the most potent  F/F installations usually don't result in 
> cruise speeds of much more than 130 to 140 knots ! Mark Langford , ( and 
> every one else ) feel free to jump all over this one ! Now the new R1200S 
> has a claimed 122 hp , and  83 lb-ft with efi .Two thirds of that hp is 
> plenty , and as for the so-so torque - I can think of three different 
> redrives that should fix that ! I do see the potential for more leeway 
> regarding ducting  , w / b maybe this is worth another look ?
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KR> BMW BOXER ( candidate ? )

2008-10-12 Thread Brian Kraut
I would easily buy that a KR-2 will maintain altitude at 18HP.  Mine could
maintain altitude at under 1/4 throttle.  Hey Mark, next time you are up see
what manifold pressure you can maintain altitude at.  That will tell us.

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

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Subject: KR> BMW BOXER ( candidate ? )


Hey folks .James here . Been a lurker for several years now  .Haven't
surfaced for three or four of them !  I've been sitting on the fence "
forever "  with regards to power plant selection for the KR . Like every one
else , I've watched all types of  venders, ideas and trends come , and then
go ! About the mid nineties , Hans Mayer  ( Contact # 45 , RAA rec flyer May
1996 ) was suggesting the BMW boxer engine with one of his custom belt
drives . Heck if I was going to disagree with Hans(  !!? ) - but it did seem
like quite a stretch . Anyway Hans went on to explain that the KR only
needed   18 horses  to maintain altitude .( whoa ) Can any one explain this
? Did he mean the KR-1 , or the original KR-2 - at just over 500 lbs ?  So
why the interest in just two jugs now ? Over the years I've noted that even
the most potent  F/F installations usually don't result in cruise speeds of
much more than 130 to 140 knots ! Mark Langford , ( and every one else )
feel free to jump all over this one ! Now the new R1200S has a claimed 122
hp , and  83 lb-ft with efi .Two thirds of that hp is plenty , and as for
the so-so torque - I can think of three different  redrives that should fix
that ! I do see the potential for more leeway regarding ducting  , w / b
maybe this is worth another look ?
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KR> BMW BOXER ( candidate ? )

2008-10-12 Thread James Wester
Hey folks .James here . Been a lurker for several years now  .Haven't surfaced 
for three or four of them !  I've been sitting on the fence " forever "  with 
regards to power plant selection for the KR . Like every one else , I've 
watched all types of  venders, ideas and trends come , and then go ! About the 
mid nineties , Hans Mayer  ( Contact # 45 , RAA rec flyer May 1996 ) was 
suggesting the BMW boxer engine with one of his custom belt drives . Heck if I 
was going to disagree with Hans(  !!? ) - but it did seem like quite a stretch 
. Anyway Hans went on to explain that the KR only needed   18 horses  to 
maintain altitude .( whoa ) Can any one explain this ? Did he mean the KR-1 , 
or the original KR-2 - at just over 500 lbs ?  So why the interest in just two 
jugs now ? Over the years I've noted that even the most potent  F/F 
installations usually don't result in cruise speeds of much more than 130 to 
140 knots ! Mark Langford , ( and every one else ) feel free to jump all over 
this one ! Now the new R1200S has a claimed 122 hp , and  83 lb-ft with efi 
.Two thirds of that hp is plenty , and as for the so-so torque - I can think of 
three different  redrives that should fix that ! I do see the potential for 
more leeway regarding ducting  , w / b maybe this is worth another look ?


KR> BMW BOXER ( candidate ? )

2008-10-12 Thread Barry Kruyssen
Problems:
- Weight 
- Single ignition
- Carburation\Fuels systems is not designed for aviation
- Cost - BMW stuff is expensive (in Australia anyway) and spare parts are
even more expensive :-)
- Redrive weight and cost and re-engineering

Plusses:
- I don't see any

That's my opinion, for what it's worth - maybe 2 cents

Regards
Barry Kruyssen
Cairns, Australia
k...@bigpond.com
http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm

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Subject: KR> BMW BOXER ( candidate ? )

Hey folks .James here . Been a lurker for several years now  .Haven't
surfaced for three or four of them !  I've been sitting on the fence "
forever "  with regards to power plant selection for the KR . Like every one
else , I've watched all types of  venders, ideas and trends come , and then
go ! About the mid nineties , Hans Mayer  ( Contact # 45 , RAA rec flyer May
1996 ) was suggesting the BMW boxer engine with one of his custom belt
drives . Heck if I was going to disagree with Hans(  !!? ) - but it did seem
like quite a stretch . Anyway Hans went on to explain that the KR only
needed   18 horses  to maintain altitude .( whoa ) Can any one explain this
? Did he mean the KR-1 , or the original KR-2 - at just over 500 lbs ?  So
why the interest in just two jugs now ? Over the years I've noted that even
the most potent  F/F installations usually don't result in cruise speeds of
much more than 130 to 140 knots ! Mark Langford , ( and every one else )
feel free to jump all over this one ! Now the new R1200S has a claimed 122
hp , and  83 lb-ft with efi .Two thirds of that hp is plenty , and as for
the so-so torque - I can think of three different  redrives that should fix
that ! I do see the potential for more leeway regarding ducting  , w / b
maybe this is worth another look ?
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