Re: KRnet> 2024 KR Gathering web page completed

[K W via KRnet]

Thanks for all the photos. Looks like a good time was had by all.
Cheers
Keith
N2022D

On Wed, Sep 18, 2024 at 3:24 PM  wrote:

> I posted the Gathering photos web page online to krgathering.net this
> morning. Use the left-side link to go to [Past Gatherings] and then to
> [2024 KR Gathering].
>
>
>
> When you browse the photos, be sure you make it down towards the bottom of
> the page. There is a hidden nugget image. Zach got up early on Saturday for
> 90 minutes of yanking and banking creating some skywriting to commemorate
> the event. It’s worth the time to see! We’ve never had something quite that
> special drawn in the air before.
>
>
>
> Thank you to everyone who made the event special. If you have photos you
> want to share on the web page, please send them directly to my personal
> email address below and NOT to this mailing list!
>
>
>
> John Bouyea
> KR-2S/ OR81/ Hillsboro, OR
> 2015 - 2024 *KRGathering.net* Web Guy
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Re: KRnet> 2024 KR Gathering web page completed

[Larry Flesner via KRnet]

Thanks John for all the photos and posting for our viewing.  Here is a 
larger image of Zach's efforts for those that haven't found it yet.


My guess is that was done over 10 to 15 miles of sky.  I built that KR 
but Zach taught it how to write. 🙂


Chris did an even larger one several years ago that I'd ask him to post 
and the inspiration for doing it.


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KRnet> 2024 KR Gathering web page completed

[kr2s]

I posted the Gathering photos web page online to krgathering.net
<https://krgathering.net/>  this morning. Use the left-side link to go to
[Past Gatherings] and then to [2024 KR Gathering].

 

When you browse the photos, be sure you make it down towards the bottom of
the page. There is a hidden nugget image. Zach got up early on Saturday for
90 minutes of yanking and banking creating some skywriting to commemorate
the event. It's worth the time to see! We've never had something quite that
special drawn in the air before. 

 

Thank you to everyone who made the event special. If you have photos you
want to share on the web page, please send them directly to my personal
email address below and NOT to this mailing list!

 

John Bouyea
KR-2S/ OR81/ Hillsboro, OR
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Mailto: k...@bouyea.net 

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Re: KRnet> KR Gathering 2025

[Chris Pryce via KRnet]

Yeah. There was no way I could make it to Mt Vernon in one day without
flying at night. I do not have the required equipment for night VFR so I
ended up landing at Hastings, Nebraska on the first day to sleep.

On Tue, Sep 17, 2024, 08:59 Oscar Zuniga via KRnet 
wrote:

> Netters;
>
> Very interesting and inspiring to read about Chris Pryce's flight to MVN
> for this year's Gathering.  I often sit with SkyVector and a few minutes of
> dreaming time to run some what-ifs and I had run something similar for next
> year in N335KC.  It's roughly equal legs, three fuel stops, but who knows
> how long it might take to fly it from where I am in southern Oregon?
>
> Medford, OR (KMFR) to Twin Falls, ID (KTWF)- 429 statute miles via
> direct.  Fuel stop #1
> KTWF - Laramie, WY (KLAR)- 461 statute via direct.  Fuel stop #2
> KLAR - Marysville KS (KMYZ) - 486 statute via direct.  Fuel stop #3
> KMYZ - KMVN - 430 statute via direct.
>
> Total: 1,806 miles.  If the plane could average 130 MPH over the ground
> (ambitious, to be sure), that would be 14 flight hours.  No way I'm
> attempting that all in one day, especially since MVN is two hours ahead of
> Pacific time.  Lifting off at maybe 5 AM here, it would already be 7 AM at
> Mount Vernon and 14 hours plus fuel stops would be out of the question.  As
> Dirty Harry reminded us, "a man's got to know his limitations".
>
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KRnet> KR Gathering 2025

[Oscar Zuniga via KRnet]

Netters;

Very interesting and inspiring to read about Chris Pryce's flight to MVN for 
this year's Gathering.  I often sit with SkyVector and a few minutes of 
dreaming time to run some what-ifs and I had run something similar for next 
year in N335KC.  It's roughly equal legs, three fuel stops, but who knows how 
long it might take to fly it from where I am in southern Oregon?

Medford, OR (KMFR) to Twin Falls, ID (KTWF)- 429 statute miles via direct.  
Fuel stop #1
KTWF - Laramie, WY (KLAR)- 461 statute via direct.  Fuel stop #2
KLAR - Marysville KS (KMYZ) - 486 statute via direct.  Fuel stop #3
KMYZ - KMVN - 430 statute via direct.

Total: 1,806 miles.  If the plane could average 130 MPH over the ground 
(ambitious, to be sure), that would be 14 flight hours.  No way I'm attempting 
that all in one day, especially since MVN is two hours ahead of Pacific time.  
Lifting off at maybe 5 AM here, it would already be 7 AM at Mount Vernon and 14 
hours plus fuel stops would be out of the question.  As Dirty Harry reminded 
us, "a man's got to know his limitations".

Oscar Zuniga
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Re: KRnet> KR Gathering

[Adam Deem via KRnet]

Griff,

I think it might be of benefit to the entire KR community as I’ve seen very
little discussion from years past about how to evaluate and improve
longitudinal handling deficiencies after an airplane is built, even though
it is very common in the production aircraft test and development process.
Longitudinal stability and pitch sensitivity/pilot induced oscillation
tendencies in the KR series have been discussed at length, but I haven’t
seen any quantitative or standard task-based qualitative flight test
analysis of the issue in the archives, even though many builders have taken
a stab at modifications seek to improve stability.  My goal is to add some
additional data and results of testing to the body of knowledge and help
builders and owners to have the knowledge to improve deficiences if they
exist.

It would also be interesting to recruit a couple experienced pilots with
different aircraft configurations, I’m thinking Mark Langford (multiple
KRs), Chris Pryce (Corvair KR2S w/ mods), Zach Martine (O200 KR2S), John
Shaffer (nose wheel KR2), and any other experienced pilots who wants to
participate in gathering data to gain a better understanding of how well
particular configurations affect the handling qualities.

I think my particular aircraft might be on the more pitch sensitive end of
the spectrum, but I believe it is by no means alone.  My goal is to give
folks some options to consider for making their airplane better behaved and
more enjoyable depending on what phase of build they are in from beginning
to improving an already flying airplane like mine.  I’ve flown a lot of
different aircraft types and my KR is the second most challenging I’ve been
at the controls of to fly well, but I think it doesn’t have to be.

 I’m thinking I’ll either offer up a time, perhaps the evening of the 29th,
to join a Zoom webinar or I can record it for upload to YouTube to share
with those who are interested.  I think I’d prefer to do it on Zoom so
folks can ask questions, though.

If anyone is interested in a Zoom presentation on Sept 29th at 8PM Eastern
time I’ll gladly reserve the time, please replay to me via email or text at
three-three-zero-313-9601.

Blue skies and smooth landings,

Adam Deem



On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 5:52 PM G R Pickett via KRnet 
wrote:

> Adam,
>
> Your presentation **might** benefit me, if I can get back on my project.
> It looks like I’ll get that opportunity this fall/winter.
>
> I would be glad to serve as a proofreader of sounding board for that
> handling qualities/ flight test/improvements that you would have talked
> about.
>
> Griff
>
>
>
> *From:* KRnet  *On Behalf Of *Luis Claudio
> via KRnet
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 15, 2024 9:29 PM
> *To:* Adam Deem via KRnet 
> *Cc:* Luis Claudio 
> *Subject:* Re: KRnet> KR Gathering
>
>
>
> Adam, I think we surely would have enjoyed that, we had plenty of free
> time since a few of our presenters could not make it due to weather. We
> will be returning to KMVN again next year, you can start planning your
> visit now...
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
>
>
> Luis R Claudio
>
>
>
> On Thursday, September 12, 2024 at 06:04:19 PM CDT, Adam Deem via KRnet <
> krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Howdy KR folks,
>
>
>
> I was planning to fly out to Mt. Vernon early in the morning tomorrow and
> stay though the weekend, but it looks like the weather there is going to be
> beyond the KRs capabilities, and my solid IFR backup option from the flying
> club is down for maintenance.  Today was perfect weather but I was tied up
> all day and unable to hit the road when I would have liked due to family
> obligations.
>
>
>
> I was planning to give a briefing on my handling qualities flight test
> program that I conducted on my KR and options for improving longitudinal
> handling qualities.
>
>
>
> I’m not sure if we might have the ability to conduct the briefing to the
> conference room via Zoom, if we do I’d be happy to present it that way.
> Otherwise I’ll plan on adding to it a little and plan to do a very
> extensive one next year, probably in two parts.  I think much of the the
> information will be helpful to many builders and pilots who want to improve
> their KR.
>
>
>
>
>
> Adam
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Re: KRnet> KR Gathering

[G R Pickett via KRnet]

Adam,
Your presentation *might* benefit me, if I can get back on my project.  It 
looks like I'll get that opportunity this fall/winter.
I would be glad to serve as a proofreader of sounding board for that handling 
qualities/ flight test/improvements that you would have talked about.
Griff

From: KRnet  On Behalf Of Luis Claudio via KRnet
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2024 9:29 PM
To: Adam Deem via KRnet 
Cc: Luis Claudio 
Subject: Re: KRnet> KR Gathering

Adam, I think we surely would have enjoyed that, we had plenty of free time 
since a few of our presenters could not make it due to weather. We will be 
returning to KMVN again next year, you can start planning your visit now...

Best regards

Luis R Claudio

On Thursday, September 12, 2024 at 06:04:19 PM CDT, Adam Deem via KRnet 
mailto:krnet@list.krnet.org>> wrote:


Howdy KR folks,

I was planning to fly out to Mt. Vernon early in the morning tomorrow and stay 
though the weekend, but it looks like the weather there is going to be beyond 
the KRs capabilities, and my solid IFR backup option from the flying club is 
down for maintenance.  Today was perfect weather but I was tied up all day and 
unable to hit the road when I would have liked due to family obligations.

I was planning to give a briefing on my handling qualities flight test program 
that I conducted on my KR and options for improving longitudinal handling 
qualities.

I'm not sure if we might have the ability to conduct the briefing to the 
conference room via Zoom, if we do I'd be happy to present it that way.  
Otherwise I'll plan on adding to it a little and plan to do a very extensive 
one next year, probably in two parts.  I think much of the the information will 
be helpful to many builders and pilots who want to improve their KR.


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Re: KRnet> KR Gathering

[Luis Claudio via KRnet]

 Adam, I think we surely would have enjoyed that, we had plenty of free time 
since a few of our presenters could not make it due to weather. We will be 
returning to KMVN again next year, you can start planning your visit now... 
Best regards
Luis R Claudio
On Thursday, September 12, 2024 at 06:04:19 PM CDT, Adam Deem via KRnet 
 wrote:  
 
 Howdy KR folks,
I was planning to fly out to Mt. Vernon early in the morning tomorrow and stay 
though the weekend, but it looks like the weather there is going to be beyond 
the KRs capabilities, and my solid IFR backup option from the flying club is 
down for maintenance.  Today was perfect weather but I was tied up all day and 
unable to hit the road when I would have liked due to family obligations.
I was planning to give a briefing on my handling qualities flight test program 
that I conducted on my KR and options for improving longitudinal handling 
qualities.
I’m not sure if we might have the ability to conduct the briefing to the 
conference room via Zoom, if we do I’d be happy to present it that way.  
Otherwise I’ll plan on adding to it a little and plan to do a very extensive 
one next year, probably in two parts.  I think much of the the information will 
be helpful to many builders and pilots who want to improve their KR.

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KRnet> KR Gathering

[ROB SCHMITT via KRnet]

I flew home yesterday from the KR Gathering so I could tailgate and watch my KC 
Chiefs today. It was great seeing everyone at the Gathering! I think the 
weather reduced the number of attendees but it was certainly was a great time 
for those who did make it. 

Rob Schmitt 
N1853Z
Lee’s Summit MO



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KRnet> KR Gathering

[Adam Deem via KRnet]

Howdy KR folks,

I was planning to fly out to Mt. Vernon early in the morning tomorrow and
stay though the weekend, but it looks like the weather there is going to be
beyond the KRs capabilities, and my solid IFR backup option from the flying
club is down for maintenance.  Today was perfect weather but I was tied up
all day and unable to hit the road when I would have liked due to family
obligations.

I was planning to give a briefing on my handling qualities flight test
program that I conducted on my KR and options for improving longitudinal
handling qualities.

I’m not sure if we might have the ability to conduct the briefing to the
conference room via Zoom, if we do I’d be happy to present it that way.
Otherwise I’ll plan on adding to it a little and plan to do a very
extensive one next year, probably in two parts.  I think much of the the
information will be helpful to many builders and pilots who want to improve
their KR.


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KRnet> KR Gathering schedule

[Evan Burgess via KRnet]

I can’t make it to the gathering but there is a lot of subject matter on the 
schedule that I would like to hear! Any chance some of these presentations will 
end up on the internet? 

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KRnet> KR Gathering

[mark jones via KRnet]


19 DAYS
Are you going to be there? 🛩️

Mark Jones (WunderBird N771MJ) (Deer Slayer N886MJ)
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Re: KRnet> 25 days until the KR Gathering

[kr2s]

My prior message had  a link error posted. The valid KR Gathering home page
is; https://krgathering.net

 

Welcome Chris & Joseph as the latest updates to the [Attendee List] of those
joining us at Mt. Vernon September 12-14!

Larry Flesner has done great organizational work pulling together details
for the event including a forum event schedule. Chris Collins has checked in
the [Pro Shop] order already delivered to the airport. Things are coming
together.

I am aware of a few people that are still planning to attend not yet on the
list. If you are one of those (and even if you're NOT!) please click through
to the [Register to Attend] link on the https://krgathering.net web page.
I'll get your name added to the roster. 

Remember it costs you nothing to attend, to participate and to share in the
knowledge exchange that makes this the time and place for KR-specific info
and fun.

Hope you can make it!

John Bouyea
KR-2S/ OR81/ Hillsboro, OR
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KRnet> 25 days until the KR Gathering

[kr2s]

Welcome Chris & Joseph as the latest updates to the [Attendee List] of those
joining us at Mt. Vernon September 12-14!

Larry Flesner has done great organizational work pulling together details
for the event including a forum event schedule. Chris Collins has checked in
the [Pro Shop] order already delivered to the airport. Things are coming
together.

I am aware of a few people that are still planning to attend not yet on the
list. If you are one of those (and even if you're NOT!) please click through
to the [Register to Attend] link on the https://krgatheing.net web page.
I'll get your name added to the roster. 

Remember it costs you nothing to attend, to participate and to share in the
knowledge exchange that makes this the time and place for KR-specific info
and fun.

Hope you can make it!

 

John Bouyea / OR81/ Hillsboro, OR
N133RM KR-2S - imported, fixed & flying
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Re: KRnet> KR Gathering schedule

[Jeff Scott via KRnet]

 


Just as a point of clarification, Saturday at 1:00 to 2:30 with two subject matters is primarily just a Q&A session for Mark and Me.  Most of the discussion usually ends up with Mark answering questions about the Corvairs and VWs and me answering a few questions about generic aircraft engines, but I thought we would open it up to questions for the A&P regarding airframes and inspections as well.

 

-Jeff Scott

Arkansas Ozarks

 

Sent: Monday, August 05, 2024 at 5:36 PM
From: "Larry Flesner via KRnet" 
To: krnet@list.krnet.org
Cc: "Larry Flesner" 
Subject: KRnet> KR Gathering schedule


 

This is the schedule for the Gathering forums / activities.  If any of the presenters have a conflict, please get back to me.  The Friday forums will be held in the conference room as usual.  A scheduling conflict makes the conference room unavailable to us until 3:00PM on Saturday so we will have flight line activities Saturday morning and a forum in the hangar with P.A. Saturday afternoon.  The Awards Ceremony will be in the conference room.

See you at Mt.Vernon.

Larry Flesner

KR Gathering schedule

Thursday:
First arrivals, fly-bys, catching up with old friends
--EACH EVENING-- Camp fire by the lake - story telling & root beer

Friday 9:30AM – 11:00AM with break 

- Mark Langford - Freebird plans progress update

- Larry Flesner

- Building and flying experimental aircraft" - E-AB registrations

- Building a straight KR the easy way

- Overview of W&B

 Friday    1:00PM – 2:30PM with breaks

-Adam Deem on Full briefing on my handling qualities flight testing and modifications to address handling qualities deficiencies

John Schaffer on Flat Spin Recovery, in a KR-2

Friday 6:00PM – 7:00PM

Luis Claudio on SDS electronic ignition for Corvair and VW conversions as the uniqueness of this system is the ability to shape your power curve from starting the engine to Lean of Peak

 

Saturday    9:30AM – 11:00AM with break

- KR overview on the ramp by KR pilots of their KR’s

Saturday    1:00PM -- 2:30PM with break

-Jeff Scott & Mark Langford on engine Q&A including costs, parts & resources including Corvair, VW &  and certified engines
-Jeff Scott on aircraft systems from the point of view of an A&P that may have to look at your plane

Saturday    evening

Optional group dinner - 6:00PM

Awards ceremony - 7:00PM
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KRnet> KR Gathering

[Larry Flesner via KRnet]

If anyone has aircraft parts / tools / etc. for sale, feel free to bring 
them to the Gathering.  We'll find a table to display items.  Also, if 
you're looking for parts, a list of wanted items posted ahead of time 
might find some of them making their way to the Gathering "for sale".


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KRnet> KR Gathering schedule

[Larry Flesner via KRnet]

This is the schedule for the Gathering forums / activities.  If any of 
the presenters have a conflict, please get back to me.  The Friday 
forums will be held in the conference room as usual.  A scheduling 
conflict makes the conference room unavailable to us until 3:00PM on 
Saturday so we will have flight line activities Saturday morning and a 
forum in the hangar with P.A. Saturday afternoon.  The Awards Ceremony 
will be in the conference room.


See you at Mt.Vernon.

Larry Flesner

KR Gathering schedule

*Thursday:*
First arrivals, fly-bys, catching up with old friends
--EACH EVENING-- Camp fire by the lake - story telling & root beer

Friday9:30AM – 11:00AM with break

- Mark Langford - Freebird plans progress update

- Larry Flesner

- Building and flying experimental aircraft" - E-AB registrations

- Building a straight KR the easy way

- Overview of W&B

Friday1:00PM – 2:30PM with breaks

-Adam Deem on Full briefing on my handling qualities flight testing and 
modifications to address handling qualities deficiencies


John Schaffer on Flat Spin Recovery, in a KR-2

Friday6:00PM – 7:00PM

Luis Claudio on SDS electronic ignition for Corvair and VW conversions 
as the uniqueness of this system is the ability to shape your power 
curve from starting the engine to Lean of Peak


Saturday9:30AM – 11:00AM with break

- KR overview on the ramp by KR pilots of their KR’s

Saturday1:00PM -- 2:30PM with break

-Jeff Scott & Mark Langford on engine Q&A including costs, parts & 
resources including Corvair, VW &and certified engines
-Jeff Scott on aircraft systems from the point of view of an A&P that 
may have to look at your plane


Saturdayevening

Optional group dinner - 6:00PM

Awards ceremony - 7:00PM


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KRnet> Updated: KR Gathering 2024 Registration Now Open

[kr2s]

Registration for the 2024 KR Gathering in Mt Vernon, Illinois September 12 -
14 is now available. Go to https://www.krgathering.net and click the
[Register to Attend] link on the page left-side.

I hope to see a flood on people sign up. Let the party begin!

 

Last year we had a problem getting Pro Shop apparel orders manufactured in
time. I will try again this year to provide those products but we will have
a much earlier order cut-off date. Stand by for updates on that topic. 

 

I thank you for your patience while we solved the technical issue that
delayed the registration function.



John Bouyea
KR-2S/ OR81/ Hillsboro, OR
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KRnet> KR Gathering Planes

[mark jones via KRnet]

Hi guys,
Please send photos to all of us unlucky KR nuts that were not able to make
it this year.
Did N886MJ show up?
Thanks

Mark Jones (N771MJ)
Oldsmar, FL

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Re: KRnet> KR Gathering

[Mark Jones via KRnet]

So sorry I could not make it this year. 
Please send photos of the planes. 
Thanks 

Mark Jones
Oldsmar, Fl

N771MJ  “WunderBird”
www.flykr2s.com
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> On Sep 16, 2023, at 8:40 AM, Jeff Scott via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Well kids, If you are sitting at home today, you're missing some fabulously 
> clear weather and an awesome, low key get together of the KR Family. 
> Competition for peoples choice may be difficult with the KR 360, which we 
> haven't seen since Red Oak in attendance, along with John Scaffer's 
> beautifully refurbished tri-gear retract KR, a very nice Corvair powered KR 
> owned by Adam ??, the touched up KR formerly owned by Larry Flesner, and a 
> few others. If you're building, today would be your opportunity to talk to 
> the experts or catch an introductory flight. Some old friends no longer in 
> attendance are sorely missed, but many are here. It is like a family reunion, 
> without the family fights. 😄
> 
> -Jeff Scott
> Arkansas Ozarks
> Former KR guy
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KRnet> KR Gathering

[Jeff Scott via KRnet]

Well kids, If you are sitting at home today, you're missing some fabulously clear weather and an awesome, low key get together of the KR Family.  Competition for peoples choice may be difficult with the KR 360, which we haven't seen since Red Oak in attendance, along with John Scaffer's beautifully refurbished tri-gear retract KR, a very nice Corvair powered KR owned by Adam ??, the touched up KR formerly owned by Larry Flesner, and a few others.  If you're building, today would be your opportunity to talk to the experts or catch an introductory flight.  Some old friends no longer in attendance are sorely missed, but many are here.  It is like a family reunion, without the family fights.  😄-Jeff ScottArkansas OzarksFormer KR guy--Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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Re: KRnet> 9 Days until the MVN KR Gathering

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Hi Larry. Looking forward to visiting with you and Gwen again, at a
the KR Gathering, among many other KR enthusiasts .John Shaffer


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Re: KRnet> 9 Days until the MVN KR Gathering

[larry howell via KRnet]

Gwen and I will be in Mount Vernon this afternoon to support Chris’s Light 
Sport Expo Thursday thru Saturday.
Then we shall wait a few days for the KR Gathering 
Everyone attending travel safe. I had plenty of reasons to stay home this year, 
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Re: KRnet> 9 Days until the MVN KR Gathering

[robert7721--- via KRnet]

I am still planning to attend. I do have to change my plans up some.

 

I was going to drive over with RV Trailer on Tuesday with the wife. But I
now have a project meeting I can't miss on Friday morning.

 

So now I will be flying in in the KR2S on Friday afternoon. Unfortunately,
the wife will not be coming with me now. I will camp out in a tent. 

 

Thanks,

 

Rob Schmitt

KR2S 

N1852Z

Lees Summit, MO

 

 

 

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KRnet
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2023 9:35 AM
To: KRnet 
Cc: G R Pickett 
Subject: Re: KRnet> 9 Days until the MVN KR Gathering

 

I'm looking forward to getting lots of ideas for my KR2.  Will be arriving
Thursday afternoon (by Car).  That's because Janet Has to have all the
comforts of Oshkosh.  Otherwise I would fly the 172.

Griff

 

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<mailto:k...@bouyea.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2023 10:01 PM
To: 'KRnet' mailto:krnet@list.krnet.org> >
Subject: KRnet> 9 Days until the MVN KR Gathering

 

It's been kind of quiet on the mailing list so I'm poking out a reminder;

Just 9 days until the 2023 KR Gathering! Fingers crossed for good weather
and safe travels.

 

John Bouyea
KR-2S/ OR81/ Hillsboro, OR
2015 - 2023 KRGathering.net Web Guy

 

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Re: KRnet> 9 Days until the MVN KR Gathering

[G R Pickett via KRnet]

I'm looking forward to getting lots of ideas for my KR2.  Will be arriving 
Thursday afternoon (by Car).  That's because Janet Has to have all the comforts 
of Oshkosh.  Otherwise I would fly the 172.
Griff

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Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2023 10:01 PM
To: 'KRnet' 
Subject: KRnet> 9 Days until the MVN KR Gathering

It's been kind of quiet on the mailing list so I'm poking out a reminder;
Just 9 days until the 2023 KR Gathering! Fingers crossed for good weather and 
safe travels.

John Bouyea
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KRnet> 9 Days until the MVN KR Gathering

[kr2s]

It's been kind of quiet on the mailing list so I'm poking out a reminder;

Just 9 days until the 2023 KR Gathering! Fingers crossed for good weather
and safe travels.

 

John Bouyea
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KRnet> !!Cut-Off Notice: KR Gathering Registration Orders for Hats and Shirts

[kr2s]

Hey gang.

This is for everyone planning to attend the KR Gathering
https://krgathering.net this September 14-16 at Mt Vernon.

If you're not coming to the Gathering, just skip this message. Thanks.

 

You can see the hats & shirts here;
https://krgathering.net/web_pages/proshop.htm 



If you're planning on coming and haven't yet registered, please do so ASAP
https://krgathering.net/web_pages/kr-registration-form.htm 

If you want a hat or shirt at the event, you must post your registration
within the next 48 hours. Cutoff for orders is Wednesday night.
If you don't get an immediate email confirmation of your registration,
something is wrong. Let me know fast at k...@bouyea.net

 

If you have already registered, listen up. You can see your registration and
order for a hat or shirt here;
https://krgathering.net/web_pages/AttendeeList.htm PLEASE VERIFY it is
correct!
If it's missing, wrong or you have a question, let me know fast at
k...@bouyea.net 


** The order goes in early morning Thursday, August 24th before I go out of
town. There will be no add-on orders. Period. **
It is possible there may be a few spares at the event but don't count on it;
if you want one, put in an order!

We need you to pay for it cash or check & pick it up at the event. If you
don't make it to the event there isn't a method to get it to you. Bummer I
know.



Sorry, there is no sugar-coating this one. I'm out of time on this venture
and want to be sure nobody is left out.
Thank you for your patience in helping me help you.

 

John Bouyea
KR-2S/ OR81/ Hillsboro, OR
2015 - 2023 KRGathering.net Web Guy

 

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Re: KRnet> 64 Days until the KR Gathering begins

[Ray_pilot via KRnet]

I just registered.  Still in the Sundowner but my KR is almost ready.
Will bring photos.

Ray_pilot
New Orleans


On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 7:11 PM Flesner via KRnet 
wrote:

> On 7/11/2023 5:50 PM, k...@bouyea.net wrote:
> > We have 20 people registered to attend the KR Gathering at this point.
> > I’m guessing some people have forgotten to send in their intent to
> > join us so I’m sending this reminder.
>
>
> +
>
> I'm hoping we get much better attendance that 20.  This is a far cry
> from the first year at Mt.Vernon (2004) with 120+ at the awards
> banquet.  This will be #33 for me this year.  I missed one Gathering
> since 1990 and that was the one in California.  I made it part way there
> but cancelled out and returned home rather than face the winds in
> Oklahoma.  I didn't spend 13 years building to watch it roll up like a
> tumbleweed.  Good decision.  It's still flying today in the hands of
> it's new owner.  I'm hoping to see more than 20 old faces from the
> past.  Get signed up.  It's free...
>
> Larry Flesner
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KRnet> Now just 42 Days until the 2023 MVN KR Gathering

[kr2s]

Summer is slipping away. Hope you all are making good progress on your
airplane projects or getting flight hours in your KR!
Just 42 days until the Mt Vernon Gathering. Looking forward to seeing
everyone and sharing information that makes this such a unique event.
Details on shirts and hats memorializing the 2023 Gathering are coming
together. I expect to have preview images within the next 2 days and will
post them here; https://krgathering.net/web_pages/proshop.htm 

I need to cut off orders August 12th. If you want to buy shirts or hats,
place your order on the [Register to Attend] page
https://krgathering.net/web_pages/kr-registration-form.htm 

In-person payment and delivery are expected. 

 

John Bouyea
KR-2S/ OR81/ Hillsboro, OR
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Re: KRnet> 64 Days until the KR Gathering begins

[Flesner via KRnet]

On 7/11/2023 5:50 PM, k...@bouyea.net wrote:
We have 20 people registered to attend the KR Gathering at this point. 
I’m guessing some people have forgotten to send in their intent to 
join us so I’m sending this reminder.


+

I'm hoping we get much better attendance that 20.  This is a far cry 
from the first year at Mt.Vernon (2004) with 120+ at the awards 
banquet.  This will be #33 for me this year.  I missed one Gathering 
since 1990 and that was the one in California.  I made it part way there 
but cancelled out and returned home rather than face the winds in 
Oklahoma.  I didn't spend 13 years building to watch it roll up like a 
tumbleweed.  Good decision.  It's still flying today in the hands of 
it's new owner.  I'm hoping to see more than 20 old faces from the 
past.  Get signed up.  It's free...


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KRnet> 64 Days until the KR Gathering begins

[kr2s]

We have 20 people registered to attend the KR Gathering at this point. I'm
guessing some people have forgotten to send in their intent to join us so
I'm sending this reminder.

The Gathering site https://krgathering.net/ has a registration link
https://krgathering.net/web_pages/kr-registration-form.htm where you can
send in your registration form.

I'm hoping we have enough people planning to attend to put in an order for
shirts and hats. The deadline to commit to that is arriving fairly soon. If
you plan to attend and would like something from the {Pro Shop]
https://krgathering.net/web_pages/proshop.htm please add that to your
registration form.

Have a good summer & looking forward to another big batch of people signing
up!

Cheers.

John Bouyea / OR81/ Hillsboro, OR
N133RM KR-2S - imported, fixed & flying
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KRnet> 2023 KR Gathering site updates

[kr2s]

Hello all.

This message is an update to changes on the http://krgathering.net web site.

 

[Lodging or Camping Info]

I've contacted an agency trying to get preferred rates for Gathering
attendees who want to stay in a hotel during the event. This info is now
available at the [Lodging or Camping Info] page on http://krgathering.net.
Many, many options available there.

 

[Register to Attend]
We have 10 people who registered for the September 14-16 event at Mt.
Vernon. Always looking for more to sign up so please visit the [Register to
Attend] link on the site as well. You'll receive an immediate email reply to
your sign up. I'll get your name added as soon as possible.


[Pro Shop] 
Part of the sign up form asks if you'd like to buy a shirt or hat at the
event. I'm looking into a source for customized apparel with an embroidered
logo. Cost and options will be based upon how many people select this option
and I'll share that info when we get more people signed up. Last year's
offerings are shown on the [Pro Shop] link and should be representative
samples of this year's offering as well.



Last year we had the event running concurrently with the MidWest Light Sport
Expo. Our timeframe this year returns to a dedicated weekend; that is just
KRs on the field. That should give us more time to visit, trade tales and
gawk at the neat airplanes who fly in. 


Hope to see you there!

 

John Bouyea
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KRnet> KR Gathering 2023

[kr2s]

Hello folks! 

Winter has jumped straight over to summer here in the Pacific Northwest.
Flying weather is upon us. This is a reminder for the KR Gathering event
September 14-16 at Mt. Vernon. You can read about it at
http://krgathering.net 

Welcome to those already registered where you can see their names on the
[Attendee list] link on the left side of the home page.

Hopefully this spurs more people to signal their plans to join the group via
the [Register to Attend] link on the left-side too.

 

Mark is away on holiday for some well-deserved time off. Not sure I deserve
some but I'm headed out Monday for a couple of weeks myself. I hope to
finish my work populating the [Past Gathering] web pages and get that posted
in the next week or 2. 

 

Fly 'em if you've got'em and everyone else, keep on building!

 

John Bouyea
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KRnet> Important Notice to 2022 KR Gathering Attendees

[kr2s]

Short and to the point. During the Gathering, we were all exposed to Covid. 

The approximate 4 day incubation timeframe puts the exposure most probably
Friday or Saturday. The attendee's first symptoms presented Tuesday night
and they were clinically diagnosed Thursday morning. They are following
doctor's orders, are fully vaccinated & boosted and are doing just fine so
far.
We are not publishing their name. We will not support any medical or
political rants on the topic and those who do will have their account
immediately suspended.

I'm forwarding this information to you all to do with as you see fit. Thank
you for your attention. 

John Bouyea
N133RM KR-2S/ OR81/ Hillsboro, OR
KR Net CoAdmin

PS this message was submitted to the list earlier today and it appears to
not have made distribution. . If you did receive it earlier or multiple
times, I apologize.

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KRnet> Important Notice to 2022 KR Gathering Attendees

[kr2s]

Short and to the point. During the Gathering, we were all exposed to Covid. 

The approximate 4 day incubation timeframe puts the exposure most probably
Friday or Saturday. The attendee's first symptoms presented Tuesday night
and they were clinically diagnosed this morning. They are following doctor's
orders, are fully vaccinated & boosted and are doing just fine so far.
We are not publishing their name. We will not support any medical or
political rants on the topic. Members forwarding a rant will be have their
account immediately suspended by the list admin.

I'm forwarding this information to you all to do with as you see fit. Thank
you for your attention. 

John Bouyea
N133RM KR-2S/ OR81/ Hillsboro, OR
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KRnet> Important Notice to 2022 KR Gathering Attendees

[kr2s]

Short and to the point. During the Gathering, we were all exposed to Covid. 

The approximate 4 day incubation timeframe puts the exposure most probably
Friday or Saturday. The attendee's first symptoms presented Tuesday night
and they were clinically diagnosed this morning. They are following doctor's
orders, are fully vaccinated & boosted and are doing just fine so far.
We are not publishing their name. We will not support any medical or
political rants on the topic. Members forwarding a rant will be have their
account immediately suspended by the list admin.

I'm forwarding this information to you all to do with as you see fit. Thank
you for your attention. 

John Bouyea
N133RM KR-2S/ OR81/ Hillsboro, OR
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Re: KRnet> KR Gathering 2022

[lee vandyke2 . com]

Ditto Larry and Chris did a great job.  The Sous Vide sales man did a great job 
also.  Jeff and I made it to his airport yesterday.  I had a small ignition 
issue again, but fixed it quickly.  Low ceilings and a direct crosswind got me 
a late start today.  Made it to Woodward OK tonight.  Should be home tomorrow 
afternoon.  Thank you again Jeff Scott for all of your help and kindness.  You 
are a true friend.

Lee Van Dyke

On Sep 11, 2022, at 4:55 PM, ROB SCHMITT via KRnet  wrote:

 Made it home to Lees Summit MO  this afternoon. My KR2S is flying great.

Great to see everyone again this year!

Thanks to Larry Flesner and Chris Collins for hosting.

Rob Schmitt
N1852Z

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KRnet> KR Gathering 2022

[ROB SCHMITT via KRnet]

Made it home to Lees Summit MO  this afternoon. My KR2S is flying great. 

Great to see everyone again this year!

Thanks to Larry Flesner and Chris Collins for hosting.

Rob Schmitt
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Re: KRnet> KR Gathering Thursday Night Dinner Change-Up

[Chad Robertson via KRnet]

Count me in for the fish fry I am in route but I’m driving unfortunately

Chadrobertson2951@ Gmail.   N6GM

> On Sep 8, 2022, at 7:37 AM, Flesner via KRnet  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 9/8/2022 7:03 AM, G R Pickett via KRnet wrote:
>> Count 2 more for fish fry.  Janet and I will drive in.
>> Griff
>>  
> ++
> 
> I think it is scheduled to start at 4:00PM at the SRT FBO.  Not 100% sure of 
> location.
> 
> Let the pilgrimage begin
> 
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Re: KRnet> KR Gathering Thursday Night Dinner Change-Up

[Flesner via KRnet]

On 9/8/2022 7:03 AM, G R Pickett via KRnet wrote:


Count 2 more for fish fry.  Janet and I will drive in.

Griff


*++*

*I think it is scheduled to start at 4:00PM at the SRT FBO. Not 100% 
sure of location.*


*Let the pilgrimage begin*

*Larry Flesner
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Re: KRnet> KR Gathering Thursday Night Dinner Change-Up

[G R Pickett via KRnet]

Count 2 more for fish fry.  Janet and I will drive in.
Griff

From: KRnet  On Behalf Of ml.simmons--- via KRnet
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 12:13 AM
To: krnet@list.krnet.org
Cc: ml.simm...@frontier.com
Subject: Re: KRnet> KR Gathering Thursday Night Dinner Change-Up

I am driving down from Oshkosh and will arrive around 5-5:30 - so save me a spot

-- Mike Simmons


On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 04:11:16 PM PDT, 
mailto:k...@bouyea.net>> wrote:



This is a heads-up for people attending the Gathering in time for the Thursday 
night dinner.
Chris Collins is putting on a Fish Fry and BBQ starting at 4pm. His invited 
guests are all us KR builders, pilots & owners as well as the early attendees 
for the MidWest LSA Expo. It is very nice of Chris to put this event together 
at the MVN FBO. We'll be operating in the same space as the LSA visitors so 
having an opportunity to meet some of them before the event really gets started 
will be great! Maybe we can convert some of them into becoming KR fans as well.

If there is sufficient interest in going back to the Frosty Mug (our regular 
Thursday night venue) maybe we can make that a Friday night affair.

Paul, if you've made any notice to the Frosty Mug, please let them know at 
least some of us will be at the Fish Fry/ BBQ.

See you all soon!



John Bouyea / OR81/ Hillsboro, OR
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Re: KRnet> KR Gathering Thursday Night Dinner Change-Up

[ml.simmons--- via KRnet]

I am driving down from Oshkosh and will arrive around 5-5:30 - so save me a spot

-- Mike Simmons 

On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 04:11:16 PM PDT,  wrote:  
 
 
This is a heads-up for people attending the Gathering in time for the Thursday 
night dinner.
Chris Collins is putting on a Fish Fry and BBQ starting at 4pm. His invited 
guests are all us KR builders, pilots & owners as well as the early attendees 
for the MidWest LSA Expo. It is very nice of Chris to put this event together 
at the MVN FBO. We’ll be operating in the same space as the LSA visitors so 
having an opportunity to meet some of them before the event really gets started 
will be great! Maybe we can convert some of them into becoming KR fans as well.

If there is sufficient interest in going back to the Frosty Mug (our regular 
Thursday night venue) maybe we can make that a Friday night affair.

Paul, if you’ve made any notice to the Frosty Mug, please let them know at 
least some of us will be at the Fish Fry/ BBQ.

See you all soon!

  

John Bouyea / OR81/ Hillsboro, OR
N133RM KR-2S – imported, fixed & flying
www.bouyea.net/N133RM

  
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KRnet> KR Gathering Thursday Night Dinner Change-Up

[kr2s]

This is a heads-up for people attending the Gathering in time for the
Thursday night dinner.
Chris Collins is putting on a Fish Fry and BBQ starting at 4pm. His invited
guests are all us KR builders, pilots & owners as well as the early
attendees for the MidWest LSA Expo. It is very nice of Chris to put this
event together at the MVN FBO. We'll be operating in the same space as the
LSA visitors so having an opportunity to meet some of them before the event
really gets started will be great! Maybe we can convert some of them into
becoming KR fans as well.

If there is sufficient interest in going back to the Frosty Mug (our regular
Thursday night venue) maybe we can make that a Friday night affair.

Paul, if you've made any notice to the Frosty Mug, please let them know at
least some of us will be at the Fish Fry/ BBQ.

See you all soon!

 

John Bouyea / OR81/ Hillsboro, OR
N133RM KR-2S - imported, fixed & flying
  www.bouyea.net/N133RM

 

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KRnet> KR Gathering

[Flesner via KRnet]

Gathering attendees,


1.  Pay for hats / shirts at the Gathering with cash or check ONLY.  No 
credit cards please.


2.  Forums for Friday and Saturday afternoon will be moved up from 
1:00pm to 1:30pm (John, please correct Gathering site).  The Light Sport 
Expo folks has a 30 minute "fly-by" each day and attendees might like to 
be outside enjoying that.  It's a dual event so we have to be a bit 
flexible.


3.  Anyone wishing to host the Gathering for 2023 should have their 
invitation planned and support all lined up.  The location for 2023 will 
be voted on during the Awards ceremony Saturday evening.


Pack you bags, fill the car / airplane with gas, kiss your honey goodby 
and inform the family that you will be absent.  How many hours?


Larry Flesner

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Re: KRnet> KR Gathering - Latest Registrations

[Luis Claudio via KRnet]

 John, please change the location of the gathering. You message above cites 
Lee's Summit.
Best regards
Luis 
On Saturday, April 9, 2022, 12:32:05 PM CDT, k...@bouyea.net 
 wrote:  
 
 
Welcome to Ed, Luis, Ray & Robert, the latest people to sign up to attend the 
2022 KR Gathering (http://krgathering.net/web_pages/AttendeeList.htm) event 
Sept 8-11 in Lee’s Summit, IL.

As a reminder, this year our Gathering will run at the same time as the Light 
Sport Expo (https://www.midwestlsaexpo.com), all hosted by the incomparable 
Chris Collins, airport manager. When you make your plans for the Gathering, 
you’ll be able to see the KR folks as well as see a bunch of LSA airplanes, 
vendors and fans. This should make for a very entertaining and educational 
event.

As always, there is no fee to attend the KR Gathering. Your registering in 
advance just allows you to pre-order Pro Shop apparel if you’d like. Thanks to 
Larry Flesner to handing the details of our awards as well as caps & shirts for 
those who’d like to buy them.

And remember 2022 is the 50th Anniversary since the KR was introduced. EAA 
Oshkosh is planning on a special recognition during the AirVenture event 
(https://www.eaa.org/airventure) as well. It’s going to be a busy summer. 
Please make your plans now to attend one of both of these events!

  

John Bouyea

N133RM KR-2S – imported, fixed & flying

www.bouyea.net/cur_proj/N133RM 

OR81/ Hillsboro, OR

  
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KRnet> KR Gathering - Latest Registrations

[kr2s]

Welcome to Ed, Luis, Ray & Robert, the latest people to sign up to attend
the 2022 KR Gathering (http://krgathering.net/web_pages/AttendeeList.htm)
event Sept 8-11 in Lee's Summit, IL.

As a reminder, this year our Gathering will run at the same time as the
Light Sport Expo (https://www.midwestlsaexpo.com), all hosted by the
incomparable Chris Collins, airport manager. When you make your plans for
the Gathering, you'll be able to see the KR folks as well as see a bunch of
LSA airplanes, vendors and fans. This should make for a very entertaining
and educational event.

As always, there is no fee to attend the KR Gathering. Your registering in
advance just allows you to pre-order Pro Shop apparel if you'd like. Thanks
to Larry Flesner to handing the details of our awards as well as caps &
shirts for those who'd like to buy them.

And remember 2022 is the 50th Anniversary since the KR was introduced. EAA
Oshkosh is planning on a special recognition during the AirVenture event
(https://www.eaa.org/airventure) as well. It's going to be a busy summer.
Please make your plans now to attend one of both of these events!

 

John Bouyea

N133RM KR-2S - imported, fixed & flying

www.bouyea.net/cur_proj/N133RM 

OR81/ Hillsboro, OR

 

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Re: KRnet> KR Gathering

[Mark Langford]

Chad Robertson wrote:

See https://www.iflygps.com/STORE/Product/annual-data-subscription for 
tablet or phone .  $79.99 per year for VFR for two devices, add $24.99 
for more.  It works on Android devices, Windows, or Apple...iPhone.


Something I left out of my rant the other day is about Foreflight.  I 
have Foreflight also, which I keep on the phone because it has pretty 
good NEXRAD weather depiction, although now iFly is almost as good. 
Foreflight probably does everything you could imagine, but you need a 
pretty big brain in your head to keep it all straightat least I do! 
iFly is very intuitive, and very easy to use.  I once tried to enter the 
GPS coordinates for a waypoint on the way to OSH using my MGL EIFIS, and 
after twenty minutes I gave up.  I went to the iFly and had it done in 
under a minute!  The waypoint was already there on the map, I just 
needed to drag the route over there and it was added!  Lots of people 
swear by ForeFlight, but be prepared for a learning curve, one that I 
couldn't handle.


Mark Langford
m...@n56ml.com
http://www.n56ml.com
Huntsville, AL

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Re: KRnet> KR Gathering

[Chad Robertson via KRnet]

Do you have to have a service plan for the ifly to work on a tablet or does it 
get information from the ADSB I have never used it or foreflight 

Chadrobertson2951@ Gmail.   N6GM

> On Apr 3, 2022, at 12:29 PM, Mark Langford  wrote:
> 
> Larry Flesner wrote:
> >> Registration appears low for the Gathering this year.  If you haven't
> >> already registered please do so at  www.krgathering.net
> 
> With that short list, we could do the banquet at the bar this year!
> 
> Mark Langford
> m...@n56ml.com
> http://www.n56ml.com
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Re: KRnet> KR Gathering

[Mark Langford]

Larry Flesner wrote:
>> Registration appears low for the Gathering this year.  If you haven't
>> already registered please do so at  www.krgathering.net

With that short list, we could do the banquet at the bar this year!

Mark Langford
m...@n56ml.com
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KRnet> KR Gathering

[Flesner via KRnet]

forgot to change subject


Registration appears low for the Gathering this year.  If you haven't 
already registered please do so at  www.krgathering.net


Reminder: this year is a dual event with the Gathering happening at 
Mt.Vernon, Illinois on the same dates as the National Light Sport 
Expo.  Separate events on the ramp but access to both.  One trip for 
both events, a 2 for 1 special event.


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KR>Gathering awards

[Flesner]

Hey everybody   Check out the awards at the Gathering web page.  
http://krgathering.net .  Click on "fly-in schedule" and scroll down to 
the bottom of the page. For several reasons,it was decided to eliminate 
formal judging and present only two awards, "People's Choice" and 
"Greatest distance flown".  Don't forget to vote for your favorite while 
at the Gathering.  While you're on the site to check out the awards go 
ahead and register for the event and place your order for hat / shirt.  
Hats / shirts this year will celebrate the KR 50th anniversary so you 
might want to order and extra one or two.  Price will be in the $15 
range for hats and $30 for shirts.  With the economy being as it is the 
prices my vary a bit but these prices should be close.  No mail orders 
please.  I'm hoping to make the artwork available on the net for those 
that are unable to attend so they can have the hat / shirt purchased at 
a local shop but that is not a done deal yet and may not happen.  I'll 
keep you posted and post photo  of this years art as soon as it is 
available.


Don't forget. This years Gathering is a "duel" event with the Gathering 
taking place at the same time / place (Mt.Vernon) as the Light Sport 
Expo.  One trip, two events, what more could you ask. Put it on your 
calendar and inform family you'll be gone those days no matter what and 
emphasize the "no matter what".


Chris and John, which one of you will take home the "Greatest Distance 
Flown" award ?


Larry Flesner

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KR>Welcome to New KR Gathering Registrants

[John Bouyea]

Welcome to Chad and Kevin, the last 2 people to sign up for the 2022
Gathering at Mt Vernon.

I added the N numbers of the airplanes planning to attend the event to give
you an idea of what you may be able to see there.

If you'd like to register or just see the list, please visit
http://www.krgathering.net/web_pages/AttendeeList.htm 

 

John Bouyea
KR-2S/ OR81/ Hillsboro, OR
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KR>KR Gathering 2022 @ KMVN/ Call to Register

[John Bouyea]

It's never too early to begin your summer flying plans! And 2022 holds 2
special and specific events for you to add to your calendar;

July 25-31 / Oshkosh Air Venture - we're celebrating 50 years since Ken &
Stu introduced the KR to the world

September 8-11 / the KR Gathering returns to Mount Vernon, Illinois and
running in conjunction with the MidWest Light Sport Expo

 

Oshkosh: A group of KRNet members are working with EAA National staff to
help recognize the unique qualities and techniques that made the KR method
famous (and heavily copied!) Details are yet to be worked out but many years
of KRs appearing on the flight line as well, as Mark Langford hosting the KR
Forum, make our airplanes "regulars" at Oshkosh. It would be great if we
could have a large presence and as many airplanes at Oshkosh as possible.
Several people have already committed to attending. It will be great if you
can bring YOUR KR too! I'll let somebody else pick up the ball to talk about
the Oshkosh effort.

 

KR Gathering: After many years' events at KMVN, Chris Collins the airport
manager told Larry Flesner running the Gathering the same weekend as the LSA
event would be a good thing. KRs after all ARE pretty small airplanes! We
have the opportunity to introduce the KR design to a bunch of new people
while we have our regular gathering. Chris plans the KR gang will have
access to the features and functions that make Mt. Vernon such a great
location, even as another event is taking place. Think great facilities,
friendly people, campfires down at the lake, space for camping on location
and everything else. You can read about the Gathering on our dedicated web
site; http://krgathering.net and the MidWest LSA event;
https://www.midwestlsaexpo.com 

 

Another  word about the Mt. Vernon Gathering. Larry Flesner volunteered to
run the apparel concession again. Thanks Larry!
You can help Larry by signing up the attend the Gathering AND let us know if
you want to buy a ball cap and/ or shirt specially embroidered to
commemorate the 50th Year of KR flight.
http://krgathering.net/web_pages/kr-registration-form.htm 

 

Hoping to see you this summer!

 

John Bouyea
KR-2S/ OR81/ Hillsboro, OR
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KR>Re: KR Gathering Website Updates

[John Bouyea]

Ok, I've finally caught up with my XC trip, the nephew's wedding and getting
N133RM off the ground after the annual inspection. 
You can see photos from the 2021 Gathering as well as the Cash Report from
Rob on the http://www.krgathering.net web site.
Look for the " Photos from past KR Gathering Events" and "Cash Flow Report"
links on the home page.
And by the way, it's never too early to start planning to attend the 2022
Gathering at Mt Vernon!
John Bouyea
KR-2S/ OR81/ Hillsboro, OR
2015 - 2021 KRGathering.net Web Guy

-Original Message-
I am still travelling and will get to updating the web site when I return
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KR>Gathering 2021 Presentation Follow-up

[brendan palmer]

All,

Allie and I enjoyed having the opportunity to share at the KR gathering
about how aviation can be used for missions and Bible translation. We are
excited to be serving by using our skills in aviation and engineering to
further the Gospel.

If you are interested in following our journey here is a link to our
monthly email newsletter. (it may also occasionally include a KR picture or
two)
https://mailchi.mp/06753280ff2c/palmers-on-mission

I am also going to work on trying to figure out how to share some of the
solidworks files for the spinner and back plate 3D printed moulds for all
to benefit from. Can also try to share the control stick grip.

Looking forward to flying in next year!

Thanks,

Allie and Brendan Palmer

KR2s (ish) N422AB - Marysville OH - getting close to paint

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KR>KR Gathering Website Updates

[John Bouyea]

Several of you posted about having 2021 Gathering photos to share. I make
these available on the http://KRGathering.net web site.

I am still travelling and will get to updating the web site when I return
home after the coming weekend. Thank you for your patience.

 

John Bouyea
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KR>Re: KR gathering

[Ray_pilot]

Took a bit of a butt whooping.  Nothing a lot of money and energy can't fix.
Definite bummer to have missed it.  But I'm still here.  and I will be
there next year.
Thanks.

Ray_pilot
New Orleans


On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 8:26 AM G R Pickett  wrote:

> Sorry to say, you missed a good one this year.  Small, maybe, but lots of
> airplane talk and everyone got to see something different.
> Though you have to wait to see the whole group, you can always go see the
> KRs close to hurricane alley after they pass by.  And if you get bored with
> that Louisiana winter, come up this way for a refreshing cool-down this
> winter.
> Hope you weathered that storm OK.
> Griff in KC
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ray_pilot 
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 4:17 PM
> To: KRnet 
> Subject: KR>Re: Gathering
>
> Wished I could have made it.  People used to say "wild horses couldn't
> stop me", well, hurricanes can.
> See everyone next year in Mount Vernon.
> Ray_pilot
> New Orleans
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KR>Re: KR gathering

[G R Pickett]

Sorry to say, you missed a good one this year.  Small, maybe, but lots of 
airplane talk and everyone got to see something different.
Though you have to wait to see the whole group, you can always go see the KRs 
close to hurricane alley after they pass by.  And if you get bored with that 
Louisiana winter, come up this way for a refreshing cool-down this winter.
Hope you weathered that storm OK. 
Griff in KC

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Wished I could have made it.  People used to say "wild horses couldn't stop 
me", well, hurricanes can.
See everyone next year in Mount Vernon.
Ray_pilot
New Orleans

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KR>Gathering

[Mark Jones]

Sure would be nice if someone would give us a recap of the Gathering. How many 
KR’s and who took home the awards?
Thanks 

Mark Jones
Oldsmar, Fl

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KR>Gathering

[Flesner]

I enjoyed see old friends and making new ones at the Gathering. Thanks 
to Rob and the crew for pulling it off.


My trip home was great except for the haze.  300 miles in 1:46 minutes 
on less than 10 gallon of fuel thanks to a tailwind that westbounders 
had to fight.


See you all next year at Mt.Vernon.

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KR>Gathering Update

[Rob Schmitt via KRnet]

Gathering Update 9/6/2021,

Everything is on track for the Gathering later this week.

Shirts and hats are ordered, catering for Saturday night is a go.

Camping will be right behind our EAA hangar K on the west side of the
airfield, we will have a porta-potty set up Weds night. 

We have 4 forums set up for the attendees. We will plan to conduct these
presentations in our Large Main Hangar (outdoor conditions). 

Friday
10:00 am.  Presentation by Brendan and Allie Palmer. They will update us on
their KR aircraft build, plus a discussion on Missions and Bible Translation
across the world.
1:00 pm.  Presentation by Rob Schmitt. General KR Aircraft discussion.
General state of the KR aircraft, specifications, resources, engine options,
etc.

Saturday.

10:00 am.  Fiberglass demonstration by Griff Picket. 
1:00 pm. Presentation by Larry Flesner on Weight and Balance. 

Saturday morning will be aircraft judging by EAA Chapter 91 Technical
Advisor Mark Burrow.

6:00 pm. Banquet and Awards Presentation. 

Other than the Saturday night Banquet, we will be using the grills and
griddles from the EAA Chapter for informal breakfasts, lunches, dinners. 
I am sure I will be asking for help from our attendees/Chapter members to
cook these meals as needed. 
Expect just basic burgers, brats, hotdogs, pancakes, etc for these meals.
We'll have a donation jar for those who eat these meals. 

We may have a visitor from the EAA Saturday night after the Banquet.
Charlie Becker (Director, Chapters & Homebuilt Community Manager) is in town
for a family event and plans to drop by. 
He would like to talk with us about AirVenture 2022 and the 50th anniversary
of the KR.  We should be able to plan something special for the KR at next
year's airshow. 

Thanks,

Rob Schmitt
816-309-0099
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To: 'KRnet' 
Subject: RE: KR>Gathering Update 

KR Gathering attendees.

Covid information for Lee's Summit, Jackson Co MO. 

There are no vaccination requirements to attend the gathering. 

We plan to do the majority of the activities in our large open hangar that
many of you will remember from 2017. We do not need to wear masks in this
open hangar. 

We do have an indoor training room which is air conditioned. Weather
permitting, we should still try to do all activities in the hangar if
possible. 

Please bring a mask, there are "County" requirements for wearing masks in
indoor spaces. That may end soon, but there is no guarantee of that. 

Of course, if you desire, please wear a mask at any time you wish. 


Flying in without ADSB is fairly easy. Follow the notification rules and the
ATC folks will gladly let you in to our airport. Every one I have talked to
says there is no hassle from ATC.

Thanks,

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KR>Gathering 2022?

[Flesner]

With the Gathering in just one week I've not heard that anyone will be 
making an offer / invitation to host the 2022 Gathering. The host and 
location for next year is usually determined at this years Gathering.  
Offers anyone?.


Larry Flesner

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KR>Gathering attendance

[Flesner]

With this years Gathering included, I will have made 30 of the last 31 
Gatherings.  I attempted to attend the one missed by taking off from 
southern Illinois in the KR and heading to California but reversed 
course in Arkansas to avoid high winds in Oklahoma.  Joe Horton, with 
his trigear KR, oil dripping from his Corvair engine all over is nose 
wheel pant, continued on and made it to California and back home to 
Pennsylvania without incident. As for me, no guts, no glory.   My KR has 
attended 16 of the last 17 Gatherings.  Some kind of record I'm 
guessing.  See you all in Lees Summit.  Close enough to the date to 
program the GPS for the trip and start checking the weather forecast.


Larry Flesner

Carterville, Illinois

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KR>Gathering Update

[John Bouyea]

Ok, it's time to send an update. The KR GATHERING is returning to Lee's
Summit, MO in 15 days!
A big welcome to David, Keith, Troy & Mike, the latest to sign up for the
event. The full list of attendees is here;
http://www.krgathering.net/web_pages/AttendeeList.htm 
All the details for the event are listed on the web site:
http://www.krgathering.net 
I do not know about current Missouri regulations regarding vaccination
requirements and turn that question over to the event host, Rob Schmitt.
If you've already registered, Thank you and we're looking forward to getting
together again!
If you haven't registered yet, and are thinking about it, please sign up as
soon as possible. The cutoff for ProShop Apparel is Sept. 1.
John Bouyea
KR-2S/ OR81/ Hillsboro, OR
2015 - 2021 KRGathering.net Web Guy

-Original Message-
Can anyone welcomed to attend the KR ...
Also, is vaccinations required for this event?
Dr. Hsu

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KR>Gathering Lodging Page Updated

[John Bouyea]

I added another hotel to the top of the list where several attendees will be
staying. Today's rate is around $94 + taxes & incidentals.
http://www.krgathering.net/web_pages/krlodge.htm 



If you haven't signed up to attend, there's no time like the present.

Oh yes, subbing in for Mark Jones here, "The KR Gathering is just 25 days
away!"

John Bouyea
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KR>Re: 2021 KR Gathering Hotel Recommendations?

[Chad Robertson]

Yes I forgot to mention that at the best Western I used my points there and if 
you’re going to do that the point cost was 24,000 points per night

Chadrobertson2951@ Gmail.   N6GM

> On Aug 15, 2021, at 11:50 AM, Flesner  wrote:
> 
> On 8/15/2021 10:46 AM, John Bouyea wrote:
>> Where are people staying? I looked at the Hampton Inn and it is $149/ night.
>> Ouch.
> 
> +++
> 
> I have reservations at the Comfort Inn at 3701 N. E. Ralph Powell Rd. Lees 
> summit, Mo.  Phone number is 816 554 6688.  My cost is $335 for Th, Fri, Sat 
> nights.  If you have membership in some of the travel sites you may get a 
> much better rate.  I'm pretty sure this is were several other have 
> reservations.  I'll let them confirm.  I think this location comes up as a 
> highway address. Confirm their address when booking.  I found it very 
> confusing and called them twice to confirm.
> 
> There is another Comfort inn in lees summit that is south of the airport.  
> Make sure you know which one you are booking at.
> 
> Larry Flesner
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KR>2021 KR Gathering Hotel Recommendations?

[Flesner]

On 8/15/2021 10:46 AM, John Bouyea wrote:

Where are people staying? I looked at the Hampton Inn and it is $149/ night.
Ouch.


+++

I have reservations at the Comfort Inn at 3701 N. E. Ralph Powell Rd. 
Lees summit, Mo.  Phone number is 816 554 6688.  My cost is $335 for Th, 
Fri, Sat nights.  If you have membership in some of the travel sites you 
may get a much better rate.  I'm pretty sure this is were several other 
have reservations.  I'll let them confirm.  I think this location comes 
up as a highway address. Confirm their address when booking.  I found it 
very confusing and called them twice to confirm.


There is another Comfort inn in lees summit that is south of the 
airport.  Make sure you know which one you are booking at.


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KR>Re: Survey: 2021 KR Gathering Hotel Recommendations?

[Chad Robertson]

I reserved my rooms about a month ago at the best Western I think their rights 
were 129 at night

Chadrobertson2951@ Gmail.   N6GM

> On Aug 15, 2021, at 10:48 AM, John Bouyea  wrote:
> 
> There are a few hotel recommendations posted on the Gathering web page
> http://www.krgathering.net/web_pages/krlodge.htm 
> 
> Where are people staying? I looked at the Hampton Inn and it is $149/ night.
> Ouch.
> 
> John Bouyea
> 
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> 
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> 
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KR>Survey: 2021 KR Gathering Hotel Recommendations?

[John Bouyea]

There are a few hotel recommendations posted on the Gathering web page
http://www.krgathering.net/web_pages/krlodge.htm 

Where are people staying? I looked at the Hampton Inn and it is $149/ night.
Ouch.

John Bouyea

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KR>KR Gathering Web Site Updates

[John Bouyea]

I'm finally back from a camping vacation trip and I updated the Attendee
list and the Pro Shop pages.

Welcome to Allie, Brendan, Robert & Tucker, the latest to register to attend
the 2021 Gathering at Lee's Summit, MO September 10-12.

The year's apparel photos are now current on the Pro Shop web page.

And the home page now reminds us, The KR GATHERING is just 32 days away!

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KR>KR Gathering 2021 registration is now "Open"

[Rob Schmitt via KRnet]

Registration for the 2021 KR Gathering is now open!

Please sign up at http://krgathering.net

There is a link on the left hand side to register for the gathering.
Please make sure to fill in the details on the pager to let us know shirt
sizes, hats, banquet attendance, etc. when you register.


KR Gathering 2021
September 10-12, 2021
Lee's Summit Airport - KLXT
Each year KR enthusiasts, builders, and pilots travel to the KR Gathering to
exchange ideas and learn more about the KR series of aircraft.
We talk to fellow pilots, other builders and take lots of photos to assist
in our building process. The best part is when we make and renew friendships
from past Gatherings. 
2021 is the forty-ninth anniversary of KR flight and returns to Lee's
Summit, MO (KLXT.) This will be the second Gathering here. 
The airport and especially the local EAA Chapter 91 make us feel welcome and
it shows! This year's Gathering is hosted by Rob Schmitt with assistance
from others. 

For more information, please visit the Official KR Gathering Web Page;  

http://krgathering.net




Thanks,

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KR>Re: KR building information - KR Gathering 2021

[Rob Schmitt via KRnet]

For those looking for hands on information on how to build a KR, please
consider coming to the KR Gathering in September. 

While it was cancelled last year due to COVID, this year is looking good. 

The dates are September 10-12. Location is Lee's Summit Airport (KLXT) just
outside of Kansas City, MO. 

Our EAA Chapter 91 will be the host again this year. We conducted the KR
Gathering back in 2017 as well. 

Thanks,

Rob Schmitt
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-Original Message-
From: Mark Langford  
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 6:02 AM
To: KRnet 
Subject: KR>Re: KR building information

Gerald Campbell wrote:

"When I brought what I have I had a friend that was and A&P IA but about the
time I bought my stuff he got sick and did not make it and I do not know
enough to finish what I have and feel good about me or someone else flying
the plane.  I looked at this and believed if someone had some classes or get
togethers where people could learn more about the KR it would be a big hit
but right now I feel like the KR world is fading and fading fast!"

Gerald, Have you looked at all of the web pages and blogs that are listed at
http://www.krnet.org/ ?  There are at least 50 of those sites which detail
almost all aspects of typical KR construction, many in excruciating detail.
Perhaps you should start by reading the plans, searching the links at KRnet
to see what kind of construction details you can find under each of the
"Projects Under Construction" and "Completed KRs" headings.  If you can't
find anything there regarding any given specific aspect of KR building, I'd
be quite surprised.  And then there are the old KR Newsletters. There are
thousands of pages of similar information, complete with photos and
drawings. Some of this stuff is outdated, but many of the construction ideas
that are now commonplace came from these old newsletters.  The link to those
is at http://www.krnet.org/newsletter/ .
Specifically, http://www.krnet.org/newsletter/kr_newsletter.pdf will get
them all in one file, but give it a few minutes to download.

If you don't have time or willpower to do the research and finish the plane,
then yes, perhaps it's time to pass Tim Brown's very nice start on a KR2S
down to someone who is willing to finish the plane and fly it some day...

Mark Langford
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Re: KR> Gathering/Oshkosh.

[larry howell via KRnet]

Alright Mike
That will be great!

Larry H

> On Jul 15, 2020, at 10:21 PM, Mike Sylvester via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> Larry, Count me in. I think I can even talk the wife into coming with me.
> 
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KR> Gathering/Oshkosh.

[Mike Sylvester via KRnet]

Larry, Count me in. I think I can even talk the wife into coming with me.

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Re: KR> KR Gathering/Oshkosh X

[Flesner via KRnet]

On 7/15/2020 8:46 PM, larry howell via KRnet wrote:

I meant 10 years at Mount Vernon

Larry H


+

I think it was around a dozen or so but who's counting?

Larry Flesner


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Re: KR> KR Gathering/Oshkosh X

[larry howell via KRnet]

I meant 10 years at Mount Vernon 

Larry H

> On Jul 15, 2020, at 8:11 PM, larry howell via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> Well as we all know Oshkosh and the KR Gathering were X ed out for this year 
> but there is a Glimmer of Hope that I’m going to grab a hold of!!
> I talked to Chris Collins at MountVernon, Illinois airport home of past KR 
> Gatherings airport that Larry Flesner ramrodded for 20 years or so. Chris is 
> forging ahead with his LightSport Expo in September that he has held for 
> several years. He said to tell all hello and is inviting us all to come and 
> join them! 
> The dates are September 10,11,12th.
> If your interested get your camping gear ready or make motel reservations.
> My wife Gwen and I are planning to be there. If any of you need a flyin 
> function to sooth your soul I recommend you make plans to attend. The KR 
> Group can have impromptu meetings amongst ourselves and enjoy the company if 
> interested.
> Thought I’d give you guys a heads up to plan if your interested at all!!
> 
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Re: KR> KR Gathering/Oshkosh X

[Flesner via KRnet]

On 7/15/2020 8:10 PM, larry howell via KRnet wrote:

The dates are September 10,11,12th.


+

Good news Larry.  Thanks for checking in with Chris.   Keep me posted on 
your travel plans.


Larry Flesner


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Re: KR> KR Gathering/Oshkosh X

[Patrick Panzera via KRnet]

FWIW, the Dragonfly and Quickie people are going forward with their
annual gathering.
KR's share the same VW heritage and would certainly be welcomed. Steve
Bennett used to join us in his KR1.
Mark Langford has joined us as well (once for sure, maybe twice?), but he
drove his VW as his KR2 was still under construction.

https://fieldofdreamsreunion.weebly.com/

Woodring Airport in Enid, OK Sep 18-20

Pat



On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 6:11 PM larry howell via KRnet 
wrote:

> Well as we all know Oshkosh and the KR Gathering were X ed out for this
> year but there is a Glimmer of Hope that I’m going to grab a hold of!!
> I talked to Chris Collins at MountVernon, Illinois airport home of past KR
> Gatherings airport that Larry Flesner ramrodded for 20 years or so. Chris
> is forging ahead with his LightSport Expo in September that he has held for
> several years. He said to tell all hello and is inviting us all to come and
> join them!
> The dates are September 10,11,12th.
> If your interested get your camping gear ready or make motel reservations.
> My wife Gwen and I are planning to be there. If any of you need a flyin
> function to sooth your soul I recommend you make plans to attend. The KR
> Group can have impromptu meetings amongst ourselves and enjoy the company
> if interested.
> Thought I’d give you guys a heads up to plan if your interested at all!!
>
> Larry H
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KR> KR Gathering/Oshkosh X

[larry howell via KRnet]

Well as we all know Oshkosh and the KR Gathering were X ed out for this year 
but there is a Glimmer of Hope that I’m going to grab a hold of!!
I talked to Chris Collins at MountVernon, Illinois airport home of past KR 
Gatherings airport that Larry Flesner ramrodded for 20 years or so. Chris is 
forging ahead with his LightSport Expo in September that he has held for 
several years. He said to tell all hello and is inviting us all to come and 
join them! 
The dates are September 10,11,12th.
If your interested get your camping gear ready or make motel reservations.
My wife Gwen and I are planning to be there. If any of you need a flyin 
function to sooth your soul I recommend you make plans to attend. The KR Group 
can have impromptu meetings amongst ourselves and enjoy the company if 
interested.
Thought I’d give you guys a heads up to plan if your interested at all!!

Larry H



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Re: KR> KR Gathering 2020 cancelled. Rescheduled for 2021

[Ray_pilot via KRnet]

Thanks Rob.  This 2nd wave made it impossible.  Till then, I thought it was
going to happen.
So, next year.  On the good side, I have a real shot at flying (not a
Sundowner) to Lee's Summit.
See you then.

Ray_pilot
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On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 9:48 AM Rob Schmitt via KRnet 
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> The members of the KR Gathering Steering Committee made the decision to
> cancel this year's KR Gathering that we had scheduled in September 2020 at
> the Lee's Summit Airport.
>
> There were just too many issues with the Covid 19 that were going to make
> this difficult for us to execute. The biggest issue was going to be meals
> and meal serving at the EAA Chapter. The county also recently instated new
> mask wearing policies as well. We are just not sure when any of this was
> going to end.
>
> We would however like to try again in 2021 in Lee's Summit.  The tentative
> dates in 2021 will be the weekend of September 10-12. I have already talked
> to the Airport Manger and he is good with these dates.
>
> Sorry for the change, folks.
>
> Rob Schmitt
> N1852Z
> Kansas City, MO
> www.robert7721.com
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KR> KR Gathering 2020 cancelled. Rescheduled for 2021

[Rob Schmitt via KRnet]

The members of the KR Gathering Steering Committee made the decision to
cancel this year's KR Gathering that we had scheduled in September 2020 at
the Lee's Summit Airport. 

There were just too many issues with the Covid 19 that were going to make
this difficult for us to execute. The biggest issue was going to be meals
and meal serving at the EAA Chapter. The county also recently instated new
mask wearing policies as well. We are just not sure when any of this was
going to end.  

We would however like to try again in 2021 in Lee's Summit.  The tentative
dates in 2021 will be the weekend of September 10-12. I have already talked
to the Airport Manger and he is good with these dates. 

Sorry for the change, folks. 

Rob Schmitt
N1852Z
Kansas City, MO
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Re: KR> KR GATHERING 2020

[Mark Langford via KRnet]

Larry Flesner wrote:

> Equipping with ADS-B out also might scare the hell out of me.

I had an eye-opening experience yesterday.  I was flying south to 
photograph some earth dam construction I was interested in near 
Birmingham, and took off in "marginal VFR" weather, which was nothing 
more than lots of puffy little clouds I had to dodge.  I also had to go 
around Huntsville airspace because the KR2 can't climb that high that 
quickly, and there was a particularly tall cloud in that direction 
anyway.  I was tuned to HSV approach just to hear what was going on, 
even though I was staying clear of HSV airspace and clouds.  I heard him 
advising another plane about my direction and altitude, and the other 
pilot said he was IMC at the moment anyway, so couldn't see me 
regardless.  Then I got a call from Approach, by tail number, asking if 
I was aware of the other traffic!  I acknowledged that I had him "on the 
scope", had been watching him, was well above and out of his way, and 
thanked him for the oversight.  ADS-b is really cool in so many ways, 
but that one was a bit unnerving.


I also discovered something cool in the iFlyGPS software on my Android. 
There's a data field ("instrument") called "Altimeter Setting" that you 
can add to the display, which shows the barometric pressure at the 
nearest ADSB reporting station.  So you always know what your altimeter 
should be set to, rather than having to check around local stations to 
get that.  This means less wandering all over the sky to me, which is 
always good


Mark Langford
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KR> ADS-B waivers - WAS: KR GATHERING 2020

[John Bouyea via KRnet]

I see 2 topics here-
1. The AOPA web page talks about getting a "Fringe Airport Policy" waiver and 
that seems it would apply to KLXT.
If you are operating out of one of the listed "capacity-constrained airports" 
you are unlikely to be approved. I doubt any KRs are based in one of these 
facilities.
Randy, I guess it comes down to where you are based. And as is noted 
previously, the different FSDOs have differing interpretations of the rules so 
YRMV...
The AOPA info as quoted;
"You'll need to use the FAA's ADS-B ADAPT 
https://www.faa.gov/nextgen/equipadsb/adapt/ program to make a request to do 
your flight. ADAPT stands for "ADS-B Deviation Authorization Preflight Tool". 
You can make your request no more than 24 hours out and no less than
1 hour before. AOPA has put together a ADAPT fact sheet 
https://www.aopa.org/advocacy/ads-b-adapt that may be helpful as well."
This page also talks about;
" For long-term authorizations for fringe operations in aircraft not equipped 
with ADS-B Out, such as for based aircraft, the ATC facility responsible for 
that airspace can be contacted to enter into a Letter of Agreement (LOA). An 
LOA will replace the need to conduct per-flight requests in ADAPT. This is one 
of the few cases where the local ATC facility is contacted directly. AOPA can 
assist with contact information, see ADAPT contacts."

2. As for initial airworthiness certification, aircraft without engine-driven 
electrical aircraft should be exempted from ADS-B equipage: 
14 CFR 91.215(b)(3) and 91.215(b)(5) specify exemptions for “any aircraft which 
was not originally certificated with an engine-driven electrical system or 
which has not subsequently been certified with such a system installed, 
balloon, or glider.” See 
https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2017/january/19/ads-b-requirement-clarified-for-nonelectrical-aircraft
 

John Bouyea
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M-19 Flying Squirrel build starting…
KR2S – Boat in Progress & For Sale
N133RM KR-2S – restoration completed and flying
OR81/ Hillsboro, OR

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Subject: Re: KR> KR GATHERING 2020
We applied for a waiver at the Fort Worth Office and one of the questions they 
asked was do you have an electrical system. We said yes and that disqualified 
us from going out and coming back. They would allow us to move the airplane out 
for repairs but we had to have an ADSB before we came back



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Re: KR> KR GATHERING 2020

[Randall Smith via KRnet]

We applied for a waiver at the Fort Worth Office and one of the questions they 
asked was do you have an electrical system. We said yes and that disqualified 
us from going out and coming back. They would allow us to move the airplane out 
for repairs but we had to have an ADSB before we came back

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> On May 20, 2020, at 8:02 PM, Flesner via KRnet  wrote:
> 
> On 5/20/2020 5:55 PM, John Bouyea via KRnet wrote:
>> Someone posted a question
>> about the ADS-B requirement due to the proximity of KLXT to KMCI. AOPA
>> recently published guidance regarding getting a waiver of sorts.
>> As quoted;
> 
> 
> 
> I was hoping there was a "wedding cake" airspace around KLTX to sneak under 
> but it is a 30 mile vale requiring transponder.  That means two waivers, one 
> to arrive and one to depart several days later.  I may have ADS-B out by then 
> if I can convince myself to spend the money.  Do you realize how frightening 
> flying can be when you realize all the airplanes that are in the air with 
> you. 50 years of flying and I hardly saw another airplane and now with ADS-B 
> in only they're all over the place.  Equipping with ADS-B out also might 
> scare the hell out of me.
> 
> Larry Flesner
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Re: KR> KR GATHERING 2020

[Flesner via KRnet]

On 5/20/2020 5:55 PM, John Bouyea via KRnet wrote:

Someone posted a question
about the ADS-B requirement due to the proximity of KLXT to KMCI. AOPA
recently published guidance regarding getting a waiver of sorts.
As quoted;




I was hoping there was a "wedding cake" airspace around KLTX to sneak 
under but it is a 30 mile vale requiring transponder.  That means two 
waivers, one to arrive and one to depart several days later.  I may have 
ADS-B out by then if I can convince myself to spend the money.  Do you 
realize how frightening flying can be when you realize all the airplanes 
that are in the air with you. 50 years of flying and I hardly saw 
another airplane and now with ADS-B in only they're all over the place.  
Equipping with ADS-B out also might scare the hell out of me.


Larry Flesner


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Re: KR> KR GATHERING 2020

[John Bouyea via KRnet]

Rob and all,
Glad to hear you have active plans in progress for the KR Gathering at Lee's
Summit. HOPEFULLY this mess that is Corona virus will be at a low spot and
travel will be possible coinciding with the event. Someone posted a question
about the ADS-B requirement due to the proximity of KLXT to KMCI. AOPA
recently published guidance regarding getting a waiver of sorts.
As quoted;
"You'll need to use the FAA's ADS-B ADAPT
https://www.faa.gov/nextgen/equipadsb/adapt/ program to make a request to do
your flight. ADAPT stands for "ADS-B Deviation Authorization Preflight
Tool". You can make your request no more than 24 hours out and no less than
1 hour before. AOPA has put together a ADAPT fact sheet
https://www.aopa.org/advocacy/ads-b-adapt that may be helpful as well."
Looking forward to the 2020 KR Gathering!
John Bouyea
KR-2S/ OR81/ Hillsboro, OR
2015 - 2020 KRGathering.net Web Guy

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Subject: KR> KR GATHERING 2020

KR Gathering 2020

We are still on track to have the KR Gathering the weekend of Sep 11-13 at
Lees Summit Airport (KLXT). 

I just talked with the Airport manager. With the current Covid-19
restrictions, it would be cancelled. But no one is projecting they will last
until September. I have not started ordering shirts/hats/meals yet because
of the current situation. I plan to call him back up around the 1st of July
to confirm. The restrictions affect our EAA Chapter as well, but still think
September will be clear. 

Side note, the Chiefs are playing the Texans on Thursday night September
10th (if the NFL gets to play). I'll be at the game that evening, but I'll
make sure everything is setup for arrivals, etc.

Thanks,

Rob Schmitt
Kansas City, MO
KR2S N1852Z






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Re: KR> KR GATHERING 2020

[Flesner via KRnet]

On 5/15/2020 12:06 PM, Rob Schmitt via KRnet wrote:

We are still on track to have the KR Gathering the weekend of Sep 11-13 at Lees 
Summit Airport (KLXT).


+++

GREAT !!! Keep planning...this will be my 30th KR Gathering in 
the last 31 years and I'd hate to see it cancelled. Football, I'm not so 
excited about


Larry Flesner


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KR> KR GATHERING 2020

[Rob Schmitt via KRnet]

KR Gathering 2020

We are still on track to have the KR Gathering the weekend of Sep 11-13 at Lees 
Summit Airport (KLXT). 

I just talked with the Airport manager. With the current Covid-19 restrictions, 
it would be cancelled. But no one is projecting they will last until September. 
I have not started ordering shirts/hats/meals yet because of the current 
situation. I plan to call him back up around the 1st of July to confirm. The 
restrictions affect our EAA Chapter as well, but still think September will be 
clear. 

Side note, the Chiefs are playing the Texans on Thursday night September 10th 
(if the NFL gets to play). I'll be at the game that evening, but I'll make sure 
everything is setup for arrivals, etc.

Thanks,

Rob Schmitt
Kansas City, MO
KR2S N1852Z






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KR> The KR Gathering.

[Mike Sylvester via KRnet]

I know most of you guys and gals are stuck inside because of this virus but 
have faith that this will pass and we'll all be back in the air soon. That 
being said, Now would be a good time to flip over to the KR Gathering site and 
register to attend. As for me, Once I register it's just even more motivation 
to keep the KR in top shape and ready for the trip Looking forward to 
seeing you there.

Mike Sylvester
kr2s builder
Birmingham,AL.

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Re: KR> KR GATHERING 2020 - and a Chiefs game?

[Rob Schmitt via KRnet]

Ray,

Currently, there are no single game NFL tickets available. All games are
still "TBD" for date and times.  I'll keep looking and post as soon as it
becomes public.

We have a pretty good tailgate group I am in, always fun. That will be open
to any who wish to show up. Kind of like a KR Gathering, but for football. 

Thanks,

Rob


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Subject: Re: KR> KR GATHERING 2020 - and a Chiefs game?

Don't rule that out.  Please just check and see if single game tickets may
be available.  Just for fun.
Maybe other guys might also be interested.  Can always  make sure I'm there
for game time.
If I leave at sun up, I'll be there by early afternoon.


Ray_pilot
New Orleans


On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 4:46 PM Rob Schmitt via KRnet 
wrote:

> We are progressing towards the 2020 KR Gathering. A few had asked if 
> there might be a Chiefs game that weekend.
>
> We'll the answer is most likely yes, but on Thursday night September 
> 10th.
>
>
> https://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article240899
> 886.html
>
>
> Since the Chiefs won the Superbowl, they get to open the season with 
> the 1st official game of the season on Thursday night September 10th. 
> No opponent is set, and to my knowledge, no single game tickets are on 
> sale yet.
>
> Since it is Thursday night, I plan to go to the game myself. I will 
> not completely vacate my host duties - everything will be set up at 
> the airport for camping/parking, etc.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob Schmitt
> Kansas City, MO
> KR2S N1852Z
>
>
>
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Re: KR> KR GATHERING 2020 - and a Chiefs game?

[Ray_pilot via KRnet]

Don't rule that out.  Please just check and see if single game tickets may
be available.  Just for fun.
Maybe other guys might also be interested.  Can always  make sure I'm there
for game time.
If I leave at sun up, I'll be there by early afternoon.


Ray_pilot
New Orleans


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wrote:

> We are progressing towards the 2020 KR Gathering. A few had asked if there
> might be a Chiefs game that weekend.
>
> We'll the answer is most likely yes, but on Thursday night September
> 10th.
>
>
> https://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article240899886.html
>
>
> Since the Chiefs won the Superbowl, they get to open the season with the
> 1st official game of the season on Thursday night September 10th. No
> opponent is set, and to my knowledge, no single game tickets are on sale
> yet.
>
> Since it is Thursday night, I plan to go to the game myself. I will not
> completely vacate my host duties - everything will be set up at the airport
> for camping/parking, etc.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob Schmitt
> Kansas City, MO
> KR2S N1852Z
>
>
>
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KR> KR GATHERING 2020 - and a Chiefs game?

[Rob Schmitt via KRnet]

We are progressing towards the 2020 KR Gathering. A few had asked if there 
might be a Chiefs game that weekend. 

We'll the answer is most likely yes, but on Thursday night September 10th.  

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article240899886.html


Since the Chiefs won the Superbowl, they get to open the season with the 1st 
official game of the season on Thursday night September 10th. No opponent is 
set, and to my knowledge, no single game tickets are on sale yet. 

Since it is Thursday night, I plan to go to the game myself. I will not 
completely vacate my host duties - everything will be set up at the airport for 
camping/parking, etc. 

Thanks,

Rob Schmitt
Kansas City, MO
KR2S N1852Z





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Re: KR> KR GATHERING

[Stef den Boer via KRnet]

Ha ha Bill, and others.
If we (me and my wife) would come to the gathering I will come with an airline. 
From there with a car of a camper. Now I know now the dates of the gathering so 
I can have a look to plan a trip...this will not say that I will definetly come 
but it is something on my list to do hi hi.

Many greats

Stef




> Op 18 januari 2020 om 21:43 schreef ol' weirdo via KRnet 
> :
> 
> 
> Hi Stef,
> If you're planning to attend the KR gathering in September I would suggest
> you make contact with Colin Hales. [You can do in via KRnet] He made his
> trip to Oshkosh via the northern rout. Oshkosh is quite a while before KR
> so come over here to London Canada; about four hours due east of
> Oshkosh and while away the time. I have a room for you..Actually there's
> lots to do. For instance you could check out Quebec City and we could drive
> to Niagara Falls and the other tourist things. And there's many
> exHollanders here so you would be at ease.
> 
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Steph and his dad are building the KR-2S see 
[http://www.masttotaalconcept.nl/kr2](http://www.masttotaalconcept.nl/kr2)

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KR> KR GATHERING

[ol' weirdo via KRnet]

Hi Stef,
If you're planning to attend the KR gathering in September I would suggest
you make contact with Colin Hales. [You can do in via KRnet] He made his
trip to Oshkosh via the northern rout. Oshkosh is quite a while before KR
so come over here to London Canada; about four hours due east of
Oshkosh and while away the time. I have a room for you..Actually there's
lots to do. For instance you could check out Quebec City and we could drive
to Niagara Falls and the other tourist things. And there's many
exHollanders here so you would be at ease.

Bill Weir
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Re: KR> Gathering

[James Croker via KRnet]

Raymond good to hear ya'll made it back to the Big Easy.  We know you was just 
training Don lol!!

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 11:03 AM, Ray_pilot via KRnet 
wrote:   Hello All,
Well, we all had a great Gathering.  Good fun, educational and definitely
motivational.  Thanks to all who helped, attended and educated.  Am
definitely looking forward to next year.

Just FYI.  I have 4 shirts left if anyone didn't make it and still wants
one.  One X-Large and Three Large.  No hats.  Please contact me off list if
you want one and we'll get it done.  Thanks.

Now, brief recap of my adventure homeward.  Left MVN at about 9:30 a.m.
bound for APS with a fuel stop at GNF.  While refueling at GNF I noticed
oil drops on my nosewheel - and there aren't supposed to be any at all,
ever.
So, we pull the cowling and a nice oil film on everything.  And this is at
a little airport in the middle of nowhere with Zero services.  But had only
lost about a quart of oil so it was a very small (or very recent) leak.
Cleaned everything, ran the engine and tried to find the leak.  About the
third time, we figured out it was the Hobbs sensor.  But, what do you do
with no parts and no tools?
Luckily, the ONLY guy at the airport, who saw us out there on the ramp
working on the plane came out of his hangar and asked if we needed any
help.  He was a retired A&P just working on his own planes (he had 3 Cessna
195's - one complete and two projects - beautiful).  Allowed us to come to
his hangar and use his tools and equipment.  He was so funny.  Said he
could not work on the plane because he was retired and feared liability
issues but said we could use any of his tools and do whatever we wanted.
And he wouldn't even tell us what to do.  But he kept looking over our
shoulders and saying, "Not telling you what to do, but if it were me, I
would do this and that".  It almost became fun.  And of course he gave us
any kind of tool or supply we needed.  Eventually we pulled the Hobbs
sensor and replaced it with a plug for the flight home.

Our fuel stop became a 4 hour adventure and then we continued on our
journey home.  Aviation people are the best in the world.

Ray_pilot
New Orleans
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Re: KR> Gathering

[Luis Claudio via KRnet]

 Great outcome glad you made it home safely Ray...  see you next year
Luis R Claudio
On Monday, September 16, 2019, 11:03:20 AM CDT, Ray_pilot via KRnet 
 wrote:  
 
 Hello All,
Well, we all had a great Gathering.  Good fun, educational and definitely
motivational.  Thanks to all who helped, attended and educated.  Am
definitely looking forward to next year.

Just FYI.  I have 4 shirts left if anyone didn't make it and still wants
one.  One X-Large and Three Large.  No hats.  Please contact me off list if
you want one and we'll get it done.  Thanks.

Now, brief recap of my adventure homeward.  Left MVN at about 9:30 a.m.
bound for APS with a fuel stop at GNF.  While refueling at GNF I noticed
oil drops on my nosewheel - and there aren't supposed to be any at all,
ever.
So, we pull the cowling and a nice oil film on everything.  And this is at
a little airport in the middle of nowhere with Zero services.  But had only
lost about a quart of oil so it was a very small (or very recent) leak.
Cleaned everything, ran the engine and tried to find the leak.  About the
third time, we figured out it was the Hobbs sensor.  But, what do you do
with no parts and no tools?
Luckily, the ONLY guy at the airport, who saw us out there on the ramp
working on the plane came out of his hangar and asked if we needed any
help.  He was a retired A&P just working on his own planes (he had 3 Cessna
195's - one complete and two projects - beautiful).  Allowed us to come to
his hangar and use his tools and equipment.  He was so funny.  Said he
could not work on the plane because he was retired and feared liability
issues but said we could use any of his tools and do whatever we wanted.
And he wouldn't even tell us what to do.  But he kept looking over our
shoulders and saying, "Not telling you what to do, but if it were me, I
would do this and that".  It almost became fun.  And of course he gave us
any kind of tool or supply we needed.  Eventually we pulled the Hobbs
sensor and replaced it with a plug for the flight home.

Our fuel stop became a 4 hour adventure and then we continued on our
journey home.  Aviation people are the best in the world.

Ray_pilot
New Orleans
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KR> Gathering

[Ray_pilot via KRnet]

Hello All,
Well, we all had a great Gathering.  Good fun, educational and definitely
motivational.  Thanks to all who helped, attended and educated.  Am
definitely looking forward to next year.

Just FYI.  I have 4 shirts left if anyone didn't make it and still wants
one.  One X-Large and Three Large.  No hats.  Please contact me off list if
you want one and we'll get it done.  Thanks.

Now, brief recap of my adventure homeward.  Left MVN at about 9:30 a.m.
bound for APS with a fuel stop at GNF.  While refueling at GNF I noticed
oil drops on my nosewheel - and there aren't supposed to be any at all,
ever.
So, we pull the cowling and a nice oil film on everything.  And this is at
a little airport in the middle of nowhere with Zero services.  But had only
lost about a quart of oil so it was a very small (or very recent) leak.
Cleaned everything, ran the engine and tried to find the leak.  About the
third time, we figured out it was the Hobbs sensor.  But, what do you do
with no parts and no tools?
Luckily, the ONLY guy at the airport, who saw us out there on the ramp
working on the plane came out of his hangar and asked if we needed any
help.  He was a retired A&P just working on his own planes (he had 3 Cessna
195's - one complete and two projects - beautiful).  Allowed us to come to
his hangar and use his tools and equipment.  He was so funny.  Said he
could not work on the plane because he was retired and feared liability
issues but said we could use any of his tools and do whatever we wanted.
And he wouldn't even tell us what to do.  But he kept looking over our
shoulders and saying, "Not telling you what to do, but if it were me, I
would do this and that".  It almost became fun.  And of course he gave us
any kind of tool or supply we needed.  Eventually we pulled the Hobbs
sensor and replaced it with a plug for the flight home.

Our fuel stop became a 4 hour adventure and then we continued on our
journey home.  Aviation people are the best in the world.

Ray_pilot
New Orleans
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Re: KR> KR Gathering 2019

[John Bouyea via KRnet]

Welcome to the group Chris. Your project sounds exciting so please keep us
updated on your progress and your challenges as they arise.
It's a good thing you are looking at the Ford V8 conversion. Those Chevy
motors aren't any good at all. Ha ha.
John Bouyea
N133RM KR-2S
OR81/ Hillsboro, OR

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From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Amy Rifenberg
via KRnet
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 6:52 AM
To: krnet@list.krnet.org
Cc: Amy Rifenberg
Subject: KR> KR Gathering 2019

I had an awesome time at my first KR gathering.  I want to thank everyone
who made me feel welcome, and shared about their KR on the flightline or
around the campfire.I'm energized to get back to the shop, and look
forward to next year's gathering.  Thanks, Chris.
Now, about those Ford V-8 conversions...
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KR> KR Gathering 2019

[Amy Rifenberg via KRnet]

I had an awesome time at my first KR gathering.  I want to thank everyone
who made me feel welcome, and shared about their KR on the flightline or
around the campfire.I'm energized to get back to the shop, and look
forward to next year's gathering.  Thanks, Chris.
Now, about those Ford V-8 conversions...
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KR> KR Gathering update

[ppaulvsk via KRnet]

Mark Langford talking about the phase 1 testing. Paul ViskBevilleville 
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