KR> KR Forum at OSH this year

[Eduardo Barros]

you can make a video about forum
Saludos

Eduardo Barros
San Pedro, Bs. As., Argentina

Mail: eduardo at kr2-egb.com.ar 
Visite el proyecto de construcci?n del avi?n experimental "Kr2 EGB": 
www.kr2-egb.com.ar

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  The EAA released their forum schedule today, and once again we are 
  honored with a spot on Monday in the Forum area.  I am open to 
  suggestions as the content, otherwise I'll just drone on as usual...

  BUILDING AND FLYING THE KR AIRCRAFT
  Monday, July 25
  11:30 AM - 12:45 PM
  Location: Forum Stage 3
  Presenter: Mark Langford
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[billjacobs...@yahoo.com]

Good for you a Mark!
Bill Jacobs


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yearThe EAA released their forum schedule today, and once again we are honored 
with a spot on Monday in the Forum area.  I am open to suggestions as the 
content, otherwise I'll just drone on as usual...BUILDING AND FLYING THE KR 
AIRCRAFTMonday, July 2511:30 AM - 12:45 PMLocation: Forum Stage 3Presenter: 
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[Chris Prata]

well you could mention how Ken Rand crashed a KR1 by *playing a drone* with it 
while filming for a movie/tv show!



 otherwise I'll just drone on as usual...
> 

KR> KR Forum at OSH this year

[Mark Langford]

The EAA released their forum schedule today, and once again we are 
honored with a spot on Monday in the Forum area.  I am open to 
suggestions as the content, otherwise I'll just drone on as usual...

BUILDING AND FLYING THE KR AIRCRAFT
Monday, July 25
11:30 AM - 12:45 PM
Location: Forum Stage 3
Presenter: Mark Langford
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KR> KR Forum at Airventure

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

Thank you Pete, looking forward to meeting you. 
Paul. 

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Paul
I'll be there all week with my son and grandsons. My cell is 330-388-2074.
Pete Klapp

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> Hi from Australia, I may be late for the forum but would love to catch up 
> with any KR guys attending. Please PM a phone number so I can go d you. 
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Hi from Australia, I may be late for the forum but would love to catch up with 
any KR guys attending. Please PM a phone number so I can go d you. 
Paul from Brisbane, Australia. 

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Paul
I'll be there all week with my son and grandsons. My cell is 330-388-2074.
Pete Klapp

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[Mark Langford]

This year's KR Builders and Pilots Forum at Oshkosh Monday morning July 
20th, 8:30 at Forum Stage 3.  See enclosed image for the location (at 
the red balloon), within yards of previous presentations.  GPS 
coordinates are supposedly 43?59'04.8"N 88?33'43.5"W, and it is in the 
main forum area near Homebuilt Camping and Warbirds.  I have to admit 
that it's hard to figure out what's where in an image of the airport in 
"normal" times when OSH isn't going on.

We'll try to concentrate on desirable modifications that can be made 
during KR construction. I'll try to come prepared this year!  As usual, 
after the Forum we'll adjourn to visit several KRs nearby on the field 
(usually either near Homebuilt Headquarters or maybe in Homebuilt Camping).

-- 
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KR> KR Forum-gear placement

[Larry Howell]

Steve I looked at the gear photos on your website and they are just as I 
remember them. The long taper towards the mounting bracket for nose wheel and 
the straight side that goes from bottom to top. I see a taper on the end that 
is the up or top end of the gear. The top cut looks perpendicular to the long 
taper that goes towards the mounting bracket.
I realize we are about to beat this poor horse to death. I am now concerned 
that Sid didn't mount the fiberglass gear properly.


Larry H



> On Jul 10, 2014, at 6:51 PM, "Steve G. via KRnet"  
> wrote:
> 
> It is readily apparent as one side of the taper fits the contour of the 
> mounting bracket perfectly. 
> 
> Steve Glover
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 10, 2014, at 16:32, Flesner  wrote:
>> 
>> At 02:23 PM 7/10/2014, you wrote:
>>> The TD version still has the straight leading edge and rear taper. Tri gear 
>>> is tapered on both sides.
>>> Steve Glover
>> +++
>> 
>> If the tri-gear leg has two tapers, that begs the question: which taper do 
>> you use against the bracket?  I'm assuming the instructions cover that.
>> 
>> Larry Flesner  
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[Jeff Scott]

I would have some concerns about the torque moment of a rearward offset on the 
bolts going through the unidirectional glass gear legs.  The Cessna 120/140 
gear legs were steel.  I don't know how the unidirectional scotchply legs will 
stand up to that, but I would have some concern about them splitting with that 
kind of loading on a hard landing.  This may or may not be a problem, but it's 
something you might want to consider before you do it.  Or perhaps you have 
already considered it and decided it's a non-factor. :o)

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM

>
> Larry,
> Thanks for the input on the Cessna 120 gear legs.
> I have done weight and balance on my KR-2 (and on Larry Flesner's also). 
> Getting very familiar with the Excel spread sheet.  My personal measurements 
> on my KR-2 and using the W & B spread sheet clearly indicates the main 
> wheels need to be moved.  The VW engine has been moved 2 inches forward from 
> the plans call out by putting 2-inch spacers between the fire wall and stock 
> engine mount.  Now in process of building some adapters for the bottom ends 
> of the gear legs to extend the wheel axels 3 inches further aft for total of 
> 20 inches aft of datum (leading edge of the stub wing).
> 
> Sid Wood
> Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
> Mechanicsville, MD, USA

KR> KR Forum-gear placement

[Flesner]

At 02:23 PM 7/10/2014, you wrote:
>The TD version still has the straight leading edge and rear taper. 
>Tri gear is tapered on both sides.
>Steve Glover
+++

If the tri-gear leg has two tapers, that begs the question: which 
taper do you use against the bracket?  I'm assuming the instructions 
cover that.

Larry Flesner  

KR> KR Forum-gear placement

[Larry H]

All I know is that when my friend ordered the new trigear set from Diehl we 
were sent the one side taper one side straight set. I assumed they were all 
like that.
If I had a choice who wouldn't want the double taper!   LOL

Larry H



> On Jul 10, 2014, at 2:23 PM, "Steve G. via KRnet"  
> wrote:
> 
> The TD version still has the straight leading edge and rear taper. Tri gear 
> is tapered on both sides. 
> 
> Steve Glover
> 
> 

KR> KR Forum-gear placement

[Christopher Pryce]

The Diehl gear has two separate leg assemblies for conventional or
tricycle. The tricycle gear legs have angles on both sides. The
conventional gear legs are straight on one side.

Chris Pryce
Burlington, NJ

KR> KR Forum-gear placement

[Mark Jones]

- Original Message - 
> The Diehl gear has two separate leg assemblies for conventional or
> tricycle. The tricycle gear legs have angles on both sides. The
> conventional gear legs are straight on one side.
>
> Chris Pryce

I was going to dispute this statement since I went to nvAero web site and 
looked at the Diehl landing gear there now for sale and it is only tapered 
on one side. But, then I pulled out my construction photos from back when I 
was installing my gear and back then the tri-gear mains were tapered on both 
sides and followed the shape of the aluminum mounting brackets exactly. It 
appears that today the same mains are used for both type gear. Both Larry 
Howell and Chris are correct. Regardless of which type leg you actually 
have, on either set up, the angled side must be inward against the bracket 
flange.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
E-mail: flykr2s at charter.net
Web: www.flykr2s.com

KR> KR Forum-gear placement

[smwood]

Larry,
Thanks for the input on the Cessna 120 gear legs.
I have done weight and balance on my KR-2 (and on Larry Flesner's also). 
Getting very familiar with the Excel spread sheet.  My personal measurements 
on my KR-2 and using the W & B spread sheet clearly indicates the main 
wheels need to be moved.  The VW engine has been moved 2 inches forward from 
the plans call out by putting 2-inch spacers between the fire wall and stock 
engine mount.  Now in process of building some adapters for the bottom ends 
of the gear legs to extend the wheel axels 3 inches further aft for total of 
20 inches aft of datum (leading edge of the stub wing).

Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA

> Mark,
> Your statement below reminds me of my old Cessna 120.  The Cessna 120 
> could nose over if the right situation arose probably mostly from applying 
> too much braking by the pilot. Several 120s I have seen over the years had 
> a horizontal steel bracket bolted to the normal axle bolt holes. This 
> bracket extended several inches forward of course because Cessna 120s are 
> tail draggers. The axle was then bolted to the forward end of the 
> extension. This extension with its extra leverage was supposed to really 
> help prevent a nose over situation on the 120. I always assumed that 
> Cessna made these parts since it is a certified aircraft but I don't know 
> that.
> I would imagine this same principle should work on a nose dragger, with a 
> rearward extension. The twisting moment might need to be considered on the 
> fiberglass landing gear. It may not matter as much as my imagination says 
> it may!
> Just wondering Sid if you have done your weight and balance? I will assume 
> you can't move your engine forward!
> Larry H
>
>> Can't you simply bolt an appropriate sized adapter plate to your current 
>> lower gear attach bracket that extends rearward just enough to keep the 
>> thing off it's tail?  Assuming it's thick enough, I would not expect any 
>> toe/camber geometry changes, although if you have wheel pants, they would 
>> need some reworking to meet up with the gear legs.
>>
>> That's essentially what I did to make my gear longer, except I went down 
>> instead of aft.  Really, I just made a new lower bracket that was longer, 
>> but essentially the same concept.  It worked, but I didn't like the view 
>> over the cowling.  You could also take that approach...redesigned bottom 
>> gear brackets that relocate the wheels further aft.
>>
>> Mark Langford

KR> KR Forum-gear placement

[Steve G.]

The TD version still has the straight leading edge and rear taper. Tri gear is 
tapered on both sides. 

Steve Glover

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 10, 2014, at 12:12, Mark Jones via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> - Original Message - 
>> The Diehl gear has two separate leg assemblies for conventional or
>> tricycle. The tricycle gear legs have angles on both sides. The
>> conventional gear legs are straight on one side.
>> 
>> Chris Pryce
> 
> I was going to dispute this statement since I went to nvAero web site and 
> looked at the Diehl landing gear there now for sale and it is only tapered on 
> one side. But, then I pulled out my construction photos from back when I was 
> installing my gear and back then the tri-gear mains were tapered on both 
> sides and followed the shape of the aluminum mounting brackets exactly. It 
> appears that today the same mains are used for both type gear. Both Larry 
> Howell and Chris are correct. Regardless of which type leg you actually have, 
> on either set up, the angled side must be inward against the bracket flange.
> 
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Stevens Point, WI
> E-mail: flykr2s at charter.net
> Web: www.flykr2s.com
> 
> 
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[Larry Howell]

Mark,
Your statement below reminds me of my old Cessna 120.  The Cessna 120 could 
nose over if the right situation arose probably mostly from applying too much 
braking by the pilot. Several 120s I have seen over the years had a horizontal 
steel bracket bolted to the normal axle bolt holes. This bracket extended 
several inches forward of course because Cessna 120s are tail draggers. The 
axle was then bolted to the forward end of the extension. This extension with 
its extra leverage was supposed to really help prevent a nose over situation on 
the 120. I always assumed that Cessna made these parts since it is a certified 
aircraft but I don't know that.
I would imagine this same principle should work on a nose dragger, with a 
rearward extension. The twisting moment might need to be considered on the 
fiberglass landing gear. It may not matter as much as my imagination says it 
may!
Just wondering Sid if you have done your weight and balance? I will assume you 
can't move your engine forward!
Larry H



> On Jul 5, 2014, at 6:00 PM, Mark Langford via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Can't you simply bolt an appropriate sized adapter plate to your current 
> lower gear attach bracket that extends rearward just enough to keep the thing 
> off it's tail?  Assuming it's thick enough, I would not expect any toe/camber 
> geometry changes, although if you have wheel pants, they would need some 
> reworking to meet up with the gear legs.
> 
> That's essentially what I did to make my gear longer, except I went down 
> instead of aft.  Really, I just made a new lower bracket that was longer, but 
> essentially the same concept.  It worked, but I didn't like the view over the 
> cowling.  You could also take that approach...redesigned bottom gear brackets 
> that relocate the wheels further aft.
> 
> Mark Langford
> ML at N56ML.com
> website at http://

KR> KR Forum-gear placement

[Flesner]

At 06:00 PM 7/5/2014, you wrote:
>I am trying to avoid re-designing my KR-2.
++

Sid,

Is your gear the standard Diehl tri-gear setup?  I'm wondering why 
other tri-gear builders aren't having the same problem.  Are you 
using a step or peg located aft of the wing trail edge to board he 
aircraft?  If so, that could create a problem.  Does it go tail to 
the ground every time you try to board and where exactly are you 
placing your weight when you board?  Need to identify the problem 
before identifying the solution.

Larry Flesner

KR> KR Forum-gear placement

[Rob Schmitt]

Sid,

Assuming you are using 8-16 (some say 14 max) from the front edge of the
wing, my KR2S has a 11.5 cg at same condition, pilot and half fuel.  You are
a little farther aft, but not out of bounds by any means. I know sounds
silly, but can you just add a temp weight forward of the main spar?
Obviously the further forward the less weight it would need to be, but if
you have a spreadsheet set up you could figure it out. 

Rob Schmitt


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A retractable pogo stick on the tail does not seem to practical for my KR-2
at this time.
This morning with just myself onboard and half fuel, the cg is at 12.6
inches.  I tried raising the nose on a fast taxi down the runway.  With an
estimated steady ground speed of 25 knots, I can easily raise the nose wheel
off the pavement with back stick about two inches.  I estimate the speed
because the ASI does not register until 40 knots.  I think I have the cg
about correct for flight, but the cg is only 3.4 inches ahead of the main
wheels.  Hence the tendency to dump on the tail.
If I used longer gear legs, that would move the main wheels further aft. 
But then there would be spring or stiffness issues, along with level stance
on the ground.  If I angled the gear legs further aft, then the bottom of
the leg would need rework to get the toe in correct; that would also need
extra length on the legs with spring and stance considerations.  Mr. Pazmany
shows lots of math to design the gear geometry to properly comply with Part
23.  I am trying to avoid re-designing my KR-2.  I want a practical machine
I can fly now without another year or two down time.
So, not dropping bombs yet, anyone have any other suggestions?

Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA

>
> At 01:11 PM 7/4/2014, you wrote:
>>For tri-gear I am very much aware that the main wheels are not set far 
>>enough to the rear to consistently keep the tail from dumping when 
>>trying to mount or dismount.
>

+++
>
> It's their placement when loaded for flight that is of primary 
> concern.  Put them too far to the rear and it will be more difficult 
> to rotate of takeoff.  One lightweight aircraft that we all know won't 
> even set with the nose wheel on the ground without the pilot on board.  
> If loading and unloading is a problem a retractable tail stand might 
> be in order.  The B-24 puts out a pogo stick when parked.
>
> Larry Flesner
>



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[Adam Tippin]

Sid I don't know what gear you have, but if its the two piece gear, could
you put a spacer between the gear base and spar?

KR> KR Forum

[Rob Schmitt]

Sid,

Afraid I do not have anything specific I can offer on how to fix your KR2,
but I would like to say I've got a KR2S on trigear and have "never" seen
this issue. I've got the standard Diehl trigear setup. True I have no
additional counter balance weights in the tail or heavy trim control stuff.
I also flew quite a bit in Terry Chezik's KR2 trigear as well getting
trained up - I do not recall an issue with his.  I was trying to see if you
had a web page to see your photos, or do you have a weight and balance
spreadsheet?  The weights on my wheels were right at 200 pounds on all three
gear legs when she is empty.  I have my 1st flight weight and balance on my
web site at

http://www.robert7721.com/WeighIn.html

Hope you get her figured out. 

Rob Schmitt


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Mark,
For the KR Forum you could address the cg concerns for different engines and
extending the engine mounts.  Some of the additional things going in the
tail not in the plans could be trim tab motors, elevator counter balance
stuff, wider elevators, antennas and associated wiring, auto pilot servos
and hardware associated with removable turtle decks.  For tri-gear I am very
much aware that the main wheels are not set far enough to the rear to
consistently keep the tail from dumping when trying to mount or dismount. 
Don't know if these issues are addressed in the KR-2S supplement plans.
Today I would not build a two-place KR with a 34-inch wide cockpit: that is
absurd.  Yep, been there, done that.

Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA
---

> If anybody has any input as to what we should talk about at the KR 
> Forum (Monday morning July 28th at 8:30 in Pavilion 4), I'm open to
suggestions.
> I'm hoping my webinar will keep me from having to go over the very 
> basics of KRs, so we should have a lot more time to dedicate to 
> specifics this year around.  I'll steer "newbies" to the webinar with a
handout.
>
> Mark Langford



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[smwood]

A retractable pogo stick on the tail does not seem to practical for my KR-2 
at this time.
This morning with just myself onboard and half fuel, the cg is at 12.6 
inches.  I tried raising the nose on a fast taxi down the runway.  With an 
estimated steady ground speed of 25 knots, I can easily raise the nose wheel 
off the pavement with back stick about two inches.  I estimate the speed 
because the ASI does not register until 40 knots.  I think I have the cg 
about correct for flight, but the cg is only 3.4 inches ahead of the main 
wheels.  Hence the tendency to dump on the tail.
If I used longer gear legs, that would move the main wheels further aft. 
But then there would be spring or stiffness issues, along with level stance 
on the ground.  If I angled the gear legs further aft, then the bottom of 
the leg would need rework to get the toe in correct; that would also need 
extra length on the legs with spring and stance considerations.  Mr. Pazmany 
shows lots of math to design the gear geometry to properly comply with Part 
23.  I am trying to avoid re-designing my KR-2.  I want a practical machine 
I can fly now without another year or two down time.
So, not dropping bombs yet, anyone have any other suggestions?

Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA

>
> At 01:11 PM 7/4/2014, you wrote:
>>For tri-gear I am very much aware that the main wheels are not set
>>far enough to the rear to consistently keep the tail from dumping
>>when trying to mount or dismount.
> +++
>
> It's their placement when loaded for flight that is of primary
> concern.  Put them too far to the rear and it will be more difficult
> to rotate of takeoff.  One lightweight aircraft that we all know
> won't even set with the nose wheel on the ground without the pilot on
> board.  If loading and unloading is a problem a retractable tail
> stand might be in order.  The B-24 puts out a pogo stick when parked.
>
> Larry Flesner
>

KR> KR Forum

[Adam Tippin]

As far as airframe goes, I can only  suggest what I've done.  I have
personally chosen to go with 43" wide at peak. AS5048-AS5046 airfoil plus
ML's tail foils. 14" aft and 2" forward. Tail dragger.

KR> KR Forum-gear placement

[GaryH]

Try this.  See attached doc.

Gary

Soli Deo Gloria

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Subject: KR> KR Forum-gear placement

At 01:11 PM 7/4/2014, you wrote:
>For tri-gear I am very much aware that the main wheels are not set 
>far enough to the rear to consistently keep the tail from dumping 
>when trying to mount or dismount.

+++

It's their placement when loaded for flight that is of primary 
concern.  Put them too far to the rear and it will be more difficult 
to rotate of takeoff.  One lightweight aircraft that we all know 
won't even set with the nose wheel on the ground without the pilot on 
board.  If loading and unloading is a problem a retractable tail 
stand might be in order.  The B-24 puts out a pogo stick when parked.

Larry Flesner 


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KR> KR Forum-gear placement

[Flesner]

At 01:11 PM 7/4/2014, you wrote:
>For tri-gear I am very much aware that the main wheels are not set 
>far enough to the rear to consistently keep the tail from dumping 
>when trying to mount or dismount.
+++

It's their placement when loaded for flight that is of primary 
concern.  Put them too far to the rear and it will be more difficult 
to rotate of takeoff.  One lightweight aircraft that we all know 
won't even set with the nose wheel on the ground without the pilot on 
board.  If loading and unloading is a problem a retractable tail 
stand might be in order.  The B-24 puts out a pogo stick when parked.

Larry Flesner 

KR> KR Forum

[smwood]

Mark,
For the KR Forum you could address the cg concerns for different engines and 
extending the engine mounts.  Some of the additional things going in the 
tail not in the plans could be trim tab motors, elevator counter balance 
stuff, wider elevators, antennas and associated wiring, auto pilot servos 
and hardware associated with removable turtle decks.  For tri-gear I am very 
much aware that the main wheels are not set far enough to the rear to 
consistently keep the tail from dumping when trying to mount or dismount. 
Don't know if these issues are addressed in the KR-2S supplement plans.
Today I would not build a two-place KR with a 34-inch wide cockpit: that is 
absurd.  Yep, been there, done that.

Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA
---

> If anybody has any input as to what we should talk about at the KR Forum 
> (Monday morning July 28th at 8:30 in Pavilion 4), I'm open to suggestions. 
> I'm hoping my webinar will keep me from having to go over the very basics 
> of KRs, so we should have a lot more time to dedicate to specifics this 
> year around.  I'll steer "newbies" to the webinar with a handout.
>
> Mark Langford

KR> KR forum, OSH NOTAM available online

[Mark Langford]

NetHeads,

The KR forum will be at the usual 1PM on Monday in the "GAMA" Pavillion 2 in 
the "Forums Plaza". See the inset in the top left corner of the map at 
http://www.eaaapps.org/images/K09.jpg .  

For those planning on flying into OSH, it makes a lot of sense to order the 
free "NOTAM" (how to successfully fly into and out of OSH during Airventure).  
It's a half-size book that's easy to manage in the cockpit, and they'll deliver 
it to your door for free.

Visit https://secure.eaa.org/airventure/notam_request.html and fill in your 
address to order.  Too easy!

Also, don't forget to get a departure briefing on your way out.

Departure Briefing
All pilots departing on Runway 18/36 before the daily air show should have a 
departure briefing, available on ATIS (128.75), in the EAA AirVenture NOTAM, or 
in the Departure Briefing shack located east of the control tower starting at 7 
a.m., at the tent in South Aircraft Parking (Row 113), or from the roving 
briefer circulation through the South aircraft parking in a vehicle with a 
Departure Briefing sign.

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
website www.n56ml.com 

KR> kr forum

[Noah Visel]

Hey guys I took the time to set up a forum so we can post pictures, manuals,
plans, or anything else KR related you want to  I hope this helps out with
some of the "data" storage limitations of email let me know if there is
anything you want changed
Noah
www.kraircraftforum.com

KR> KR Forum at OSH

[Dan Heath]

Your collection of Clouds and Sunsets is "PRICELESS".  This one is really
neat in the way that the bad weather meets the good.  I am sure glad you had
a way out of that one.  Can't wait to get my Corvair installed, so I can fly
at those altitudes.

How long can you fly that high, without suffering from the affects of low
oxygen?

I finally got my new wheels and brakes installed and connected.  I plan to
fly to Oshkosh, but am scared to death at the thought of it.  Do you know if
anyone is planning for a gathering point and group fly, or does that not
work too well?

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC


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Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 11:16 PM
To: KRnet
Cc: Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft
Subject: KR> KR Forum at OSH

KRNetHeads,

The Forum schedule for OSHkosh just came out, and the KR Builders and Pilots
Forum will be at the usual time and place, 1:00-2:15 on Monday the July 26th
at the GAMA Pavilion number 2 in the Forum Area.  No immediate plans
yet...just stand up there and rant about KRs and answer questions 'til the
time runs out, unless somebody comes up with a better idea (and I can be
convinced of that).  After we get thrown out at 2:15 we usually stand
outside the pavilion and have a meet 'n' greet sort of thing, and this year
I'm hoping Phil Matheson and some of the other Aussie builders/pilots will
show up in time to make the forum. It'd be nice to have a night time
get-together either the night before or the night after the forum.

On another subject entirely. I posted another cloud picture at the top of
http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/sunsets/ a few minutes ago.  It ain't bad
for a bunch of moisture floating around in formation...

Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website at http://www.N56ML.com 


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KR> KR Forum at OSH

[Mark Langford]

KRNetHeads,

The Forum schedule for OSHkosh just came out, and the KR Builders and Pilots 
Forum will be at the usual time and place, 1:00-2:15 on Monday the July 26th at 
the GAMA Pavilion number 2 in the Forum Area.  No immediate plans yet...just 
stand up there and rant about KRs and answer questions 'til the time runs out, 
unless somebody comes up with a better idea (and I can be convinced of that).  
After we get thrown out at 2:15 we usually stand outside the pavilion and have 
a meet 'n' greet sort of thing, and this year I'm hoping Phil Matheson and some 
of the other Aussie builders/pilots will show up in time to make the forum. 
It'd be nice to have a night time get-together either the night before or the 
night after the forum.

On another subject entirely. I posted another cloud picture at the top of 
http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/sunsets/ a few minutes ago.  It ain't bad for 
a bunch of moisture floating around in formation...

Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website at http://www.N56ML.com