KR>Building wings..Off the 'plane
My problem... not enough garage room for the KRSport wing. I'm curious to know how stiff it'll be after I get one side glassed. Can I detach it from the wing stub and finish the other side mounted on a "custom made" support structure? My goal is 28 foot span, same 36 inch chord at the tips, slotted airfoil at the outer ends, no washout. It sure would be easier if I could take the partially completed wing off with one side glassed. Someone said, "Opinions are like _. Everyone has their own, nobody wants to look at yours". But with no wing to squeeze or twist here, I need some opinions. Ron FreibergerSport pilot in process. mailto: rfreiberger at swfla.rr.com
KR>Building wings..Off the 'plane
It sure would be easier if I could take the partially completed wing off with one side glassed. Ron FreibergerSport pilot in process. The wing will be as floppy as all get out with just one side glassed. You can have things a little off when glassing the first side. But, when you glass the second side you had better have the alignment all correct because that is when everything all ties together. So, I guess the answer is do what ever you want. Just be sure and double check all alingment measurements before doing the second side. Lynn Hyder
KR>Building wings..Off the 'plane
On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:56:20 -0500 "Ron Freiberger" writes: > My problem... not enough garage room for the KRSport wing. I'm > curious to > know how stiff it'll be after I get one side glassed. Can I detach > it from > the wing stub and finish the other side mounted on a "custom made" > support > structure? Ron -- I just finished building wings a week ago and I would not remove the wings half finished. There was still a good deal of flex and twist that could be induced with one side glassed. When the second side was glassed I was amazed at how stiff they became. I could not twist the wing at the tip with it all cured. God luck Joe Horton
KR>Building wings..Off the 'plane
>It sure would be easier if I could take the partially completed wing off >with one side glassed. >Ron Freiberger + Ron, I removed my outer wing panels after glassing the tops. I placed them on a work table, and then built my fuel tanks complete except for the closing which was the bottom side of the wing. There was little if any flex. I did mount them back to the stub wings before glassing the bottom but I see no reason you couldn't do the same with your "custom jig" if it were built to close tolerance. The two critical factors here would be the fit of the wing attach fittings and building the wing true, ZERO WASHOUT in your case. A well built jig should hold the attach fittings as you also have the inboard rib, foam, and glass. My fittings fit perfectly when I reattached my wings. As for holding the wing true, mark your cord lines on the inboard and outboard ribs and attach a piece of "quarter round" trim or some type of platform on which to place a level. SmartLevel would be best but a good bubble level should be just as accurate. Make sure you jig the wing with both cord lines level and it should work out just fine. I'd even go out on a limb and say that if you used a piece of 1/4" ply for the inboard rib and used gussets, that you could do the entire wing on a jig after you glue the ribs in place with the spars attached to the stub wing fittings. I recall you wanted some a__h___ to give you an opinion so I felt obligated to reply. :-) Have a good one. Larry Flesner
KR>Building wings..Off the 'plane
RON , if your very careful you can handle the wings with one side,including leading edge glassed. I did both tops of the wings,removed them and did the bottom,I build a rotersery to aid in tis process,I would supply plans for the rotersery to any one interseted for a tail wheel version. could you have room if you did one wing at-a-time?
KR>Building wings - Off the plane?
I suggest that you build yourself a Flip-O-Matic, ala Mark Langford. You will need it anyway. You must be building the top side on the plane. Carefully remove it, flip your plane, turn the wing over, put it back on and continue on your way. If you don't build it on the plane, you won't be sure it is right, until it is done. then it is too late. N64KR Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC da...@kr-builder.org See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org
KR>Building wings - Off the plane?
You failed to understand that I don't have enough room to build them that way. Ron Freiberger mailto: rfreiber...@swfla.rr.com -Original Message- From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Dan Heath Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 5:43 AM To: kr...@mylist.net Subject: KR>Building wings - Off the plane? I suggest that you build yourself a Flip-O-Matic, ala Mark Langford. You will need it anyway. You must be building the top side on the plane. Carefully remove it, flip your plane, turn the wing over, put it back on and continue on your way. If you don't build it on the plane, you won't be sure it is right, until it is done. then it is too late. N64KR Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC da...@kr-builder.org See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org ___ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>Building wings - Off the plane?
Ron If you haven't mounted your wafs yet you could put them on the outer wings spars, build them complete to your specications bolt the short wing wafs on the fittings you already have in place then line them up to the short wings and drill your holes through the spars and attach them last. That would garrentee they will fit. Hope this makes sense---In other words build it backwards Mike Turner - Original Message - From: Ron Freiberger To: KRnet Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 8:20 AM Subject: RE: KR>Building wings - Off the plane? You failed to understand that I don't have enough room to build them that way. Ron Freiberger mailto: rfreiber...@swfla.rr.com -Original Message- From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Dan Heath Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 5:43 AM To: kr...@mylist.net Subject: KR>Building wings - Off the plane? I suggest that you build yourself a Flip-O-Matic, ala Mark Langford. You will need it anyway. You must be building the top side on the plane. Carefully remove it, flip your plane, turn the wing over, put it back on and continue on your way. If you don't build it on the plane, you won't be sure it is right, until it is done. then it is too late. N64KR Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC da...@kr-builder.org See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org ___ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ___ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>Building wings - Off the plane?
Ron I'm not sure how big a shop you have but I built mine in a 1 car garage and built it with the wings attached. I had it in the garage with the wing span running the length of the garage and the tail and firewall were between the sides. When it was time to flip it over I got the neighbor involved. Worked very well. On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:20:44 -0500 "Ron Freiberger" writes: > You failed to understand that I don't have enough room to build them > that > way. > > Ron Freiberger > mailto: rfreiber...@swfla.rr.com > > -Original Message- > From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On > Behalf Of > Dan Heath > Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 5:43 AM > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: KR>Building wings - Off the plane? > > I suggest that you build yourself a Flip-O-Matic, ala Mark Langford. > You > will need it anyway. You must be building the top side on the > plane. > Carefully remove it, flip your plane, turn the wing over, put it > back on and > continue on your way. If you don't build it on the plane, you won't > be sure > it is right, until it is done. then it is too late. > > > > N64KR > > > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > > > da...@kr-builder.org > > > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering > > > > See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic > > See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!
KR>Building wings - Off the plane?
Ron, Try to find someone building a Mustang II, I helped my father build his wings OFF THE PLANE. Although they are aluminum. I don't see why it can't be done for the KR. Just put in a lot of thought. Steven Phillabaum Auburn, AL (KAUO) On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:20:44 -0500 "Ron Freiberger" wrote: >You failed to understand that I don't have enough room to >build them that >way. > >Ron Freiberger >mailto: rfreiber...@swfla.rr.com > >-Original Message- >From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net >[mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On Behalf Of >Dan Heath >Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 5:43 AM >To: kr...@mylist.net >Subject: KR>Building wings - Off the plane? > >I suggest that you build yourself a Flip-O-Matic, ala >Mark Langford. You >will need it anyway. You must be building the top side >on the plane. >Carefully remove it, flip your plane, turn the wing over, >put it back on and >continue on your way. If you don't build it on the >plane, you won't be sure >it is right, until it is done. then it is too late. > > > >N64KR > > > >Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > > >da...@kr-builder.org > > > >See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering > > > >See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic > >See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org > > ___ >see KRnet list details at >http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > >___ >see KRnet list details at >http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
