KR>problems with KRnet?
I'd vote to bring the old list up again. Your time is too valuable to do constant maintaince work and hunt for elusive bugs. Not a negitative comment towards anyone's work. thanks jim wogamanYou do good work Mark!
KR>problems with KRnet? Agree with Mark Jones
Agree with Mark Jones!
KR>problems with KRnet?
NetHeads, Although I haven't actually seen it myself, I've gotten reports from Dan and Ed that they've tried to send messages to KRnet several times, and they never got through. Has anybody else sent messages that didn't get through? I suppose as a test, anybody sending messages to KRnet is welcome to CC me on it. When you have a message that was send to both me and the list, and only I get it, that says a lot to the folks who are trying to 1) prove that they have a problem, and 2) might help them to solve it. So for the next couple of days, CC me on your messages and we'll see how big a problem we have. The funny thing is that nobody on CorvAircraft has mentioned a problem. Thanks, Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML at hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
KR>problems with KRnet?
Mark and others. I have seen both Dan's and Ed's post recently. I honestly feel that traffic on the KR Net is just slow right now. May be a lot of folks are away this week being Memorial Day. Also, in your e-mail settings there is an option which allows you to not receive e-mail from yourself. Those not getting their own mail may want to check their settings. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html - Original Message - From: "Mark Langford" To: Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 6:19 AM Subject: KR>problems with KRnet? > NetHeads, > > Although I haven't actually seen it myself, I've gotten reports from Dan and > Ed that they've tried to send messages to KRnet several times, and they > never got through. Has anybody else sent messages that didn't get through? > I suppose as a test, anybody sending messages to KRnet is welcome to CC me > on it. When you have a message that was send to both me and the list, and > only I get it, that says a lot to the folks who are trying to 1) prove that > they have a problem, and 2) might help them to solve it. > > So for the next couple of days, CC me on your messages and we'll see how big > a problem we have. The funny thing is that nobody on CorvAircraft has > mentioned a problem. > > Thanks, > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > N56ML at hiwaay.net > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>problems with KRnet?
Memorial Day and settings have nothing to do with it. I can post to Corvaircraft and send messages to my self with no problems. I'm going to post a test to krnet now and see if is working for me again. ED Ed Blocher Santa Rosa Beach, FL ebloc...@earthlink.net - Original Message - From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR builders and pilots" Cc: "Mark Langford" Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 6:49 AM Subject: Re: KR>problems with KRnet? > Mark and others. I have seen both Dan's and Ed's post recently. I honestly > feel that traffic on the KR Net is just slow right now. May be a lot of > folks are away this week being Memorial Day. Also, in your e-mail settings > there is an option which allows you to not receive e-mail from yourself. > Those not getting their own mail may want to check their settings. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > - Original Message - > From: "Mark Langford" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 6:19 AM > Subject: KR>problems with KRnet? > > > > NetHeads, > > > > Although I haven't actually seen it myself, I've gotten reports from Dan > and > > Ed that they've tried to send messages to KRnet several times, and they > > never got through. Has anybody else sent messages that didn't get > through? > > I suppose as a test, anybody sending messages to KRnet is welcome to CC me > > on it. When you have a message that was send to both me and the list, and > > only I get it, that says a lot to the folks who are trying to 1) prove > that > > they have a problem, and 2) might help them to solve it. > > > > So for the next couple of days, CC me on your messages and we'll see how > big > > a problem we have. The funny thing is that nobody on CorvAircraft has > > mentioned a problem. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > > N56ML at hiwaay.net > > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html >
KR>problems with KRnet?
Hi everyone, I too am having problems with sending e-mail to the net. I believe that this occurs when I create a new message and not a reply. And with that I want to ask if anyone knows what port to use on a venturie for a DG?I got my new one from A/S yesterday and it didn't come with installation instructions. It has two ports. I,m sure I block off the unused port but I would like to know if there is a difference. Thanks Tim KR2 N7038V - Original Message - From: "Mark Langford" To: Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 7:19 AM Subject: KR>problems with KRnet? > NetHeads, > > Although I haven't actually seen it myself, I've gotten reports from Dan and > Ed that they've tried to send messages to KRnet several times, and they > never got through. Has anybody else sent messages that didn't get through? > I suppose as a test, anybody sending messages to KRnet is welcome to CC me > on it. When you have a message that was send to both me and the list, and > only I get it, that says a lot to the folks who are trying to 1) prove that > they have a problem, and 2) might help them to solve it. > > So for the next couple of days, CC me on your messages and we'll see how big > a problem we have. The funny thing is that nobody on CorvAircraft has > mentioned a problem. > > Thanks, > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > N56ML at hiwaay.net > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>problems with KRnet?
Ok That verified that that is the problem on my end, so I'll post with replies only till the problem is solved.And not use my "create mail 'Thanks Tim - Original Message - From: "Timothy Bellville" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 10:55 PM Subject: Re: KR>problems with KRnet? > Hi everyone, > I too am having problems with sending e-mail to the net. I believe that > this occurs when I create a new message and not a reply. > And with that I want to ask if anyone knows what port to use on a venturie > for a DG?I got my new one from A/S yesterday and it didn't come with > installation instructions. It has two ports. I,m sure I block off the unused > port but I would like to know if there is a difference. > Thanks > Tim > KR2 > N7038V > - Original Message - > From: "Mark Langford" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 7:19 AM > Subject: KR>problems with KRnet? > > > > NetHeads, > > > > Although I haven't actually seen it myself, I've gotten reports from Dan > and > > Ed that they've tried to send messages to KRnet several times, and they > > never got through. Has anybody else sent messages that didn't get > through? > > I suppose as a test, anybody sending messages to KRnet is welcome to CC me > > on it. When you have a message that was send to both me and the list, and > > only I get it, that says a lot to the folks who are trying to 1) prove > that > > they have a problem, and 2) might help them to solve it. > > > > So for the next couple of days, CC me on your messages and we'll see how > big > > a problem we have. The funny thing is that nobody on CorvAircraft has > > mentioned a problem. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > > N56ML at hiwaay.net > > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html >
KR>problems with KRnet?
test - Original Message - From: "Timothy Bellville" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 10:58 PM Subject: Re: KR>problems with KRnet? > Ok That verified that that is the problem on my end, so I'll post with > replies only till the problem is solved.And not use my "create mail > 'Thanks > Tim > - Original Message - > From: "Timothy Bellville" > To: "KR builders and pilots" > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 10:55 PM > Subject: Re: KR>problems with KRnet? > > > > Hi everyone, > > I too am having problems with sending e-mail to the net. I believe that > > this occurs when I create a new message and not a reply. > > And with that I want to ask if anyone knows what port to use on a venturie > > for a DG?I got my new one from A/S yesterday and it didn't come with > > installation instructions. It has two ports. I,m sure I block off the > unused > > port but I would like to know if there is a difference. > > Thanks > > Tim > > KR2 > > N7038V > > - Original Message - > > From: "Mark Langford" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 7:19 AM > > Subject: KR>problems with KRnet? > > > > > > > NetHeads, > > > > > > Although I haven't actually seen it myself, I've gotten reports from Dan > > and > > > Ed that they've tried to send messages to KRnet several times, and they > > > never got through. Has anybody else sent messages that didn't get > > through? > > > I suppose as a test, anybody sending messages to KRnet is welcome to CC > me > > > on it. When you have a message that was send to both me and the list, > and > > > only I get it, that says a lot to the folks who are trying to 1) prove > > that > > > they have a problem, and 2) might help them to solve it. > > > > > > So for the next couple of days, CC me on your messages and we'll see how > > big > > > a problem we have. The funny thing is that nobody on CorvAircraft has > > > mentioned a problem. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > > > N56ML at hiwaay.net > > > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > > ___ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>problems with KRnet?
Tim, I received two e-mails from you off the KRnet. How many did you send? Larry Flesner
KR>problems with KRnet?
Tim, Make that three. You're test came through for me. Larry Flesner
KR>problems with KRnet?
Sorry larry, I don't mean to be a pest. I just lost a few messages that were quite long and didn't,t want to re write them till I knew that they would go threw. Tim - Original Message - From: "larry flesner" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 9:43 AM Subject: KR>problems with KRnet? > > > Tim, > > Make that three. You're test came through for me. > > Larry Flesner > > > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>problems with KRnet?
Well, I sent one an hour ago, repying-to one of Dan's many messages that didn't make it to the list. This time I'm replying-to Larry's that DID make it, so that may be the ticket. Either way, it looks like I have one more thing to do today. I know you guys are tired of this, but I may just bring the old kr...@mailinglists.com back up and subscribe everybody on this list to that one, if I can. I have about 10 messages already that I was cc'd on from Dan, Ed, and others, that made it to me, but not to the list. Houston, we have a problem here. Just in case this one makes it, I'll cut and paste it below: I've looked for the perfect mufflers for my Corvair engine for months, but everything I find is big, heavy, and expensive. Just for kicks, I thought I'd check out stock VW air-cooled Beetle tailpipes. They fit my 1.5" stainless exhaust tubing perfectly with their 1.375" outside diameter (I might not ever get them out though), merely act as a chrome-plated exhaust extension, weigh 9 ounces each, and cost $2.75 a piece! Although they will not be tested for performance until later on this summer, right now I have no doubt that these will quieten the engine considerably, while also protecting the bottom of the plane (NACA ducts) during extended ground-run testing. There's a photo at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/corvair/03052321m.jpg . Note the zillion wires to the left, which are instrumentation for the Engine Information System, which is now outdated by a new and improved system, but will still work nicely for what I need. Today I'm working on the aluminum intake system and trying to finish up the dual stick setup. That and a new puppy, a funeral, and a softball game with the 8 year-olds... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
KR>problems with KRnet?
Note: All those were replys. We can't post new mail. Mark L is having it looked into. This is also a reply. ED Ed Blocher Santa Rosa Beach, FL ebloc...@earthlink.net - Original Message - From: "larry flesner" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 8:43 AM Subject: KR>problems with KRnet? > > > Tim, > > Make that three. You're test came through for me. > > Larry Flesner > > > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html >
KR>problems with KRnet?
Hi all Is everyone posting their messages to kr...@mylist.net ? I am wondering why we don't just use yahoo groups. I run two or three yahoo mailing lists and it just keeps working with no problems. Their service is free although there is some advertising. They also provide plenty of space for uploading files, photos etc. Maybe we shouldn't try to muddy the waters at this time but it is a serious alternative. Regards to all Phil Maley Perth Australia
KR>problems with KRnet?
May be a good idea phil, we seem to have a great deal of problems Phil Matheson mathe...@dodo.com.au VH-PKR ( reserved) See our VW Engines and Home built web page at http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com/
KR>problems with KRnet?
Hi Phil, Dan Although it is possible to set up an email list on almost any ISP using freely available list management software, I think to do so would just open up another can of worms. Mark has done a great job of keeping us all together on krnet and I have complete faith that he will find a way to get the present system stabilised. I really only suggested Yahoo groups as a back-stop in case the mylist.net service couldn't recover from its problems. Is it still possible that we don't actually have a problem? My messages and at least some others seem to be going through ok. I've noticed a huge drop-off in email generally over the past couple of weeks. Maybe people are concentrating on other things at the moment. Regards to all Phil Maley Perth Australia
KR>problems with KRnet?
Phil Maley wrote: > I am wondering why we don't just use yahoo groups. I run two or three > yahoo mailing lists and it just keeps working with no problems. Their > service is free although there is some advertising. They also provide > plenty of space for uploading files, photos etc. Maybe we shouldn't > try to muddy the waters at this time but it is a serious alternative. I really don't know what to do. The old list at mailinglists.com worked flawlessly for two years before it just went belly-up for 4 days, but it's back and working fine now. All I have to do is uncheck a couple of boxes and we could migrate back to that one in a heartbeat and leave this one in the dust. I'm not real impressed with the service we've gotten here. I've emailed them with about 10 messages and gotten exactly one reply from a human saying "we'll check into that". Of course service wasn't that great from the previous list either, but then we never needed it either. This list has a lot of handy bells and whistles, but people have always had problems getting signed up for it (which is a hassle for me), and now with most of the messages disappearing, we need to do something different because it's just not getting the job done. I have a personal hangup with yahoo groups. Even if Yahoo doesn't sell your email address to others, you address is just sitting out there for the pickin' by the marketer's search engines. This list and the last were "private" lists, and unless you're a member, you don't have access to the member list, and even then, they are painful to extract (ask me how I know). I'm working on my third week with new email address, and haven't had a single spam message yet! I'd like to keep it that way. And the endless advertising, popups, banner ads, and having to scroll down through it all to get to the actual message just makes me crazy. I AM convinced that there is a problem with this list though. Although only a couple of guys have cc'd me on messages that were sent to the list, at least ten (that I know of) made it to me, but not the list, which absolves their ISP, and strongly suggests a problem at mylist.net. And I've sent serveral myself that didn't make it. I'm assuming that the folks at mylist.net are on vacation this weekend, but will jump on this on Tuesday morning. Maybe we should give them until Wednesday or so to figure it out before we jump ship. Also, if we keep trying to use the system, we might find more clues to help them identify the problem. One difference between this time and the last time is that I have a list of everybody's email address that is on this list, and can easily send a message to all subscribers, regardless of whether the list is working or not. Although it would be a hassle for me to add folks back to the old list myself, I could send a message telling folks to resubscribe, and how to do it, so nobody should be left behind. After Wednesday, we'll think of something, but I'm certainly open to suggestions... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
KR>problems with KRnet?
Mark, I agree with you that we should wait till Wednesday to see if it can be resolved. Absolutely NO to Yahoo or other freebies which bombard us with advertisement and spam. If this list does not get corrected promptly by the people at Mylist then by all means let's go back to Mailinglist. After I joined Road Runner, I did not receive any spam for over a year and now I get it almost daily. You know, if I had helped all those foreigners needing a bank to put their millions in, I could be the richest man in America by now. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html - Original Message - From: "Mark Langford" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 1:33 PM Subject: Re: KR>problems with KRnet? > Phil Maley wrote: > > > I am wondering why we don't just use yahoo groups. I run two or three > > yahoo mailing lists and it just keeps working with no problems. Their > > service is free although there is some advertising. They also provide > > plenty of space for uploading files, photos etc. Maybe we shouldn't > > try to muddy the waters at this time but it is a serious alternative. > > I really don't know what to do. The old list at mailinglists.com worked > flawlessly for two years before it just went belly-up for 4 days, but it's > back and working fine now. All I have to do is uncheck a couple of boxes > and we could migrate back to that one in a heartbeat and leave this one in > the dust. I'm not real impressed with the service we've gotten here. I've > emailed them with about 10 messages and gotten exactly one reply from a > human saying "we'll check into that". Of course service wasn't that great > from the previous list either, but then we never needed it either. This > list has a lot of handy bells and whistles, but people have always had > problems getting signed up for it (which is a hassle for me), and now with > most of the messages disappearing, we need to do something different because > it's just not getting the job done. > > I have a personal hangup with yahoo groups. Even if Yahoo doesn't sell your > email address to others, you address is just sitting out there for the > pickin' by the marketer's search engines. This list and the last were > "private" lists, and unless you're a member, you don't have access to the > member list, and even then, they are painful to extract (ask me how I know). > I'm working on my third week with new email address, and haven't had a > single spam message yet! I'd like to keep it that way. And the endless > advertising, popups, banner ads, and having to scroll down through it all to > get to the actual message just makes me crazy. > > I AM convinced that there is a problem with this list though. Although only > a couple of guys have cc'd me on messages that were sent to the list, at > least ten (that I know of) made it to me, but not the list, which absolves > their ISP, and strongly suggests a problem at mylist.net. And I've sent > serveral myself that didn't make it. I'm assuming that the folks at > mylist.net are on vacation this weekend, but will jump on this on Tuesday > morning. Maybe we should give them until Wednesday or so to figure it out > before we jump ship. Also, if we keep trying to use the system, we might > find more clues to help them identify the problem. > > One difference between this time and the last time is that I have a list of > everybody's email address that is on this list, and can easily send a > message to all subscribers, regardless of whether the list is working or > not. Although it would be a hassle for me to add folks back to the old list > myself, I could send a message telling folks to resubscribe, and how to do > it, so nobody should be left behind. > > After Wednesday, we'll think of something, but I'm certainly open to > suggestions... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html >
KR>problems with KRnet?
this is a test - Original Message - From: "Mark Langford" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 1:33 PM Subject: Re: KR>problems with KRnet? > Phil Maley wrote: > > > I am wondering why we don't just use yahoo groups. I run two or three > > yahoo mailing lists and it just keeps working with no problems. Their > > service is free although there is some advertising. They also provide > > plenty of space for uploading files, photos etc. Maybe we shouldn't > > try to muddy the waters at this time but it is a serious alternative. > > I really don't know what to do. The old list at mailinglists.com worked > flawlessly for two years before it just went belly-up for 4 days, but it's > back and working fine now. All I have to do is uncheck a couple of boxes > and we could migrate back to that one in a heartbeat and leave this one in > the dust. I'm not real impressed with the service we've gotten here. I've > emailed them with about 10 messages and gotten exactly one reply from a > human saying "we'll check into that". Of course service wasn't that great > from the previous list either, but then we never needed it either. This > list has a lot of handy bells and whistles, but people have always had > problems getting signed up for it (which is a hassle for me), and now with > most of the messages disappearing, we need to do something different because > it's just not getting the job done. > > I have a personal hangup with yahoo groups. Even if Yahoo doesn't sell your > email address to others, you address is just sitting out there for the > pickin' by the marketer's search engines. This list and the last were > "private" lists, and unless you're a member, you don't have access to the > member list, and even then, they are painful to extract (ask me how I know). > I'm working on my third week with new email address, and haven't had a > single spam message yet! I'd like to keep it that way. And the endless > advertising, popups, banner ads, and having to scroll down through it all to > get to the actual message just makes me crazy. > > I AM convinced that there is a problem with this list though. Although only > a couple of guys have cc'd me on messages that were sent to the list, at > least ten (that I know of) made it to me, but not the list, which absolves > their ISP, and strongly suggests a problem at mylist.net. And I've sent > serveral myself that didn't make it. I'm assuming that the folks at > mylist.net are on vacation this weekend, but will jump on this on Tuesday > morning. Maybe we should give them until Wednesday or so to figure it out > before we jump ship. Also, if we keep trying to use the system, we might > find more clues to help them identify the problem. > > One difference between this time and the last time is that I have a list of > everybody's email address that is on this list, and can easily send a > message to all subscribers, regardless of whether the list is working or > not. Although it would be a hassle for me to add folks back to the old list > myself, I could send a message telling folks to resubscribe, and how to do > it, so nobody should be left behind. > > After Wednesday, we'll think of something, but I'm certainly open to > suggestions... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html >
KR>problems with KRnet?
Mark, I'm for waiting and giving the list a chance. Might just be some little bug that can be worked out in an hour or so. If not, then we can go back to the old list or whatever. Pat Driscoll -- http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! --
KR>problems with KRnet?
Sorry guys, but this is another test - Original Message - From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 4:08 PM Subject: Re: KR>problems with KRnet? > Mark, > I agree with you that we should wait till Wednesday to see if it can be > resolved. Absolutely NO to Yahoo or other freebies which bombard us with > advertisement and spam. If this list does not get corrected promptly by the > people at Mylist then by all means let's go back to Mailinglist. After I > joined Road Runner, I did not receive any spam for over a year and now I get > it almost daily. You know, if I had helped all those foreigners needing a > bank to put their millions in, I could be the richest man in America by now. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > - Original Message - > From: "Mark Langford" > To: "KR builders and pilots" > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 1:33 PM > Subject: Re: KR>problems with KRnet? > > > > Phil Maley wrote: > > > > > I am wondering why we don't just use yahoo groups. I run two or three > > > yahoo mailing lists and it just keeps working with no problems. Their > > > service is free although there is some advertising. They also provide > > > plenty of space for uploading files, photos etc. Maybe we shouldn't > > > try to muddy the waters at this time but it is a serious alternative. > > > > I really don't know what to do. The old list at mailinglists.com worked > > flawlessly for two years before it just went belly-up for 4 days, but it's > > back and working fine now. All I have to do is uncheck a couple of boxes > > and we could migrate back to that one in a heartbeat and leave this one in > > the dust. I'm not real impressed with the service we've gotten here. > I've > > emailed them with about 10 messages and gotten exactly one reply from a > > human saying "we'll check into that". Of course service wasn't that great > > from the previous list either, but then we never needed it either. This > > list has a lot of handy bells and whistles, but people have always had > > problems getting signed up for it (which is a hassle for me), and now with > > most of the messages disappearing, we need to do something different > because > > it's just not getting the job done. > > > > I have a personal hangup with yahoo groups. Even if Yahoo doesn't sell > your > > email address to others, you address is just sitting out there for the > > pickin' by the marketer's search engines. This list and the last were > > "private" lists, and unless you're a member, you don't have access to the > > member list, and even then, they are painful to extract (ask me how I > know). > > I'm working on my third week with new email address, and haven't had a > > single spam message yet! I'd like to keep it that way. And the endless > > advertising, popups, banner ads, and having to scroll down through it all > to > > get to the actual message just makes me crazy. > > > > I AM convinced that there is a problem with this list though. Although > only > > a couple of guys have cc'd me on messages that were sent to the list, at > > least ten (that I know of) made it to me, but not the list, which absolves > > their ISP, and strongly suggests a problem at mylist.net. And I've sent > > serveral myself that didn't make it. I'm assuming that the folks at > > mylist.net are on vacation this weekend, but will jump on this on Tuesday > > morning. Maybe we should give them until Wednesday or so to figure it out > > before we jump ship. Also, if we keep trying to use the system, we might > > find more clues to help them identify the problem. > > > > One difference between this time and the last time is that I have a list > of > > everybody's email address that is on this list, and can easily send a > > message to all subscribers, regardless of whether the list is working or > > not. Although it would be a hassle for me to add folks back to the old > list > > myself, I could send a message telling folks to resubscribe, and how to do > > it, so nobody should be left behind. > > > > After Wednesday, we'll think of something, but I'm certainly open to > > suggestions... > > > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>problems with KRnet? Yahoo
Just a quick note about Yahoo groups. There is a lot of misconception about their service. Actually I defy anyone to extract another user's email address from Yahoo providing that user has indicated their address should be kept private when they registered. I don't believe I have received any spam as a result of use of Yahoo over several years. In fact there is greater risk of getting added to spam lists via the existing krnet. If you look through the krnet archives you will find almost everybody's email address listed in the body of various messages. It doesn't take a genious to extract those addresses and add them to spam lists. Yahoo do use advertising to pay for the service but in my experience the imposition is quite bearable for the service they provide. I would definitely support going across to yahoo groups. Phil Maley Perth Australia
KR>problems with KRnet? Yahoo
>I would definitely support going across to yahoo groups. >Phil Maley >Perth Australia Before we make an decision, one thing to consider is the file upload feature of Yahoo. Yes, it is true you can upload files for everyone to look at with a generous amount of space. However, to look at the files, you need to have a "Yahoo email address". That email address needs to subscribe to the mailing list as well. I don't think all of us want to get one just to use that feature. So any weight that feature adds in our decision, is non-existent. My 2¢ Ameet Savant asav...@notes.state.ne.us
KR>problems with KRnet? Yahoo
Yes you do need to register with yahoo but you don't need to ever use the yahoo email address. I am registered on about 10 yahoo email lists with my own normal address and they all send emails to me the same as krnet does. It can be set up to send plain text with no attachments allowed etc. And the list controller has full control over all the settings. Regards Phil Maley Perth Australia -Original Message- From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On Behalf Of asav...@notes.state.ne.us
KR>problems with KRnet? Yahoo
Gentlemen: Let's allow the list manager to make those decisions, that's what he gets the big bucks for (humor) and we can get back to discussions related to aircraft rather than the d@#$% list! Dean Allen --- asav...@notes.state.ne.us wrote: > > > > > >I would definitely support going across to yahoo groups. > > >Phil Maley > >Perth Australia > > Before we make an decision, one thing to consider is the file upload > feature of Yahoo. Yes, it is true you can upload files for everyone to look > at with a generous amount of space. However, to look at the files, you need > to have a "Yahoo email address". That email address needs to subscribe to > the mailing list as well. I don't think all of us want to get one just to > use that feature. So any weight that feature adds in our decision, is > non-existent. > > My 2¢ > > Ameet Savant > asav...@notes.state.ne.us > > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html = Dean Allen P.O. Box 4173 Greenville, SC 29608 (704) 348-1715 __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com
KR>problems with KRnet? Yahoo
I agree -Original Message- From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Aggie lewanda Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 8:47 AM To: KR builders and pilots Subject: RE: KR>problems with KRnet? Yahoo Gentlemen: Let's allow the list manager to make those decisions, that's what he gets the big bucks for (humor) and we can get back to discussions related to aircraft rather than the d@#$% list! Dean Allen --- asav...@notes.state.ne.us wrote: > > > > > >I would definitely support going across to yahoo groups. > > >Phil Maley > >Perth Australia > > Before we make an decision, one thing to consider is the file upload > feature of Yahoo. Yes, it is true you can upload files for everyone to > look at with a generous amount of space. However, to look at the > files, you need to have a "Yahoo email address". That email address > needs to subscribe to the mailing list as well. I don't think all of > us want to get one just to use that feature. So any weight that > feature adds in our decision, is non-existent. > > My 2¢ > > Ameet Savant > asav...@notes.state.ne.us > > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html = Dean Allen P.O. Box 4173 Greenville, SC 29608 (704) 348-1715 __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ___ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>problems with KRnet?
Sorry, it failed to get through. But don't feel bad; Santa Rosa Beach is one of my favorite places. ;o) Ron Freiberger mailto: rfreiber...@swfla.rr.com -Original Message- From: krnet-bounces+rfreiberger=swfla.rr@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+rfreiberger=swfla.rr@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Edwin Blocher Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 3:03 PM To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>problems with KRnet? Memorial Day and settings have nothing to do with it. I can post to Corvaircraft and send messages to my self with no problems. I'm going to post a test to krnet now and see if is working for me again. ED Ed Blocher Santa Rosa Beach, FL ebloc...@earthlink.net - Original Message - From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR builders and pilots" Cc: "Mark Langford" Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 6:49 AM Subject: Re: KR>problems with KRnet? > Mark and others. I have seen both Dan's and Ed's post recently. I honestly > feel that traffic on the KR Net is just slow right now. May be a lot of > folks are away this week being Memorial Day. Also, in your e-mail settings > there is an option which allows you to not receive e-mail from yourself. > Those not getting their own mail may want to check their settings. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > - Original Message - > From: "Mark Langford" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 6:19 AM > Subject: KR>problems with KRnet? > > > > NetHeads, > > > > Although I haven't actually seen it myself, I've gotten reports from Dan > and > > Ed that they've tried to send messages to KRnet several times, and they > > never got through. Has anybody else sent messages that didn't get > through? > > I suppose as a test, anybody sending messages to KRnet is welcome to CC me > > on it. When you have a message that was send to both me and the list, and > > only I get it, that says a lot to the folks who are trying to 1) prove > that > > they have a problem, and 2) might help them to solve it. > > > > So for the next couple of days, CC me on your messages and we'll see how > big > > a problem we have. The funny thing is that nobody on CorvAircraft has > > mentioned a problem. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > > N56ML at hiwaay.net > > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > ___ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
