Re: [libreoffice-l10n] The word "common" in Chinese conversion dialog

[Cheng-Chia Tseng]

Mihkel Tõnnov 於 2021年8月30日 週一，上午2:47寫道：

> Cheng-Chia Tseng () kirjutas 27.08.2021 kell 02:51:
>
>>
>> Yeah. It is used for Simplified and Traditional Chinese Conversion.
>>>
>>> Common terms are shared in both languages, like Fire “火”, Air “風”, Earth
>>> “土” ,Water “水” ,etc.
>>>
>>> However, different terms referring to the same thing exist between China
>>> and Taiwan.
>>> For example, potato is “土豆” in simplified Chinese while “馬鈴薯” in
>>> traditional Chinese.
>>>
>>>
>> To be more specific and clear, the UI "Common terms" here is actually
>> saying "Daily used common terms, but not the same in both simplified and
>> traditional Chinese."
>>
>
> Thanks for the explanation.
>
> I found that there's an (attempted) explanation also in Help:
> "Common terms are words that have the same meaning in traditional and
> simplified Chinese but are written with different characters." (key-ID ujmVB
> in current master)
> However, this makes no sense to me -- what am I missing?
>

It’s like describing the same thing with different aspects. Taken the
elephants as an example , we can name them with some very special features,
like “four pillars,” “two sharp horns,” “long nose,” etc.

As to the potato here, “土豆” which used in simplified Chinese means “earth
bean,” and “馬鈴薯” in traditional Chinese means “horse bell yam” literally.

This kind of naming variants also exist within different regions of Chinese
speaking people besides the writing system.



> Thanks,
> Mihkel
>
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] The word "common" in Chinese conversion dialog

[Cheng-Chia Tseng]

> Yeah. It is used for Simplified and Traditional Chinese Conversion.
>
> Common terms are shared in both languages, like Fire “火”, Air “風”, Earth
> “土” ,Water “水” ,etc.
>
> However, different terms referring to the same thing exist between China
> and Taiwan.
> For example, potato is “土豆” in simplified Chinese while “馬鈴薯” in
> traditional Chinese.
>
>
To be more specific and clear, the UI "Common terms" here is actually
saying "Daily used common terms, but not the same in both simplified and
traditional Chinese."


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] The word "common" in Chinese conversion dialog

[Cheng-Chia Tseng]

Kevin Suo  於 2021年8月27日 週五 上午8:24寫道：

> As explained in the Help page:
>
> *"Translate common terms*
> Converts words with two or more characters that are in the list of
> common terms. After the list is scanned, the remaining text is converted
> character by character."
>
> The "Common Terms" list can be found on the UI if you open "Tools >
> Language > Chinese Conversion" where there is a "Edit Terms" button.
> Clicking on the button will open an "Edit Dictionary" dialog where you
> can define your Common Terms.
>
> For instance, if I've defined the following in the Common Terms list:
> 中国 --> 美国
> (meaning: China --> United States)
>
> Then if I type (or copy paste) the word 中国 into Writer and check the
> "Translate common terms" opinion in the Chinese Conversion dialog, the
> conversion result would be "美国".
>
> That is to say, the "Common Terms" means the List of Common Terms
> dictionary you have defined by yourself (which is blank by default). In
> other words, it has nothing to do with "shared".
>

Kevin Suo is also right about this.

The "common terms" here means the terms dictionary conversion between
simplified and traditional Chinese.
For example. You can set Term as "土豆 " and Mapping as "馬鈴薯" for referring
to potatoes.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] The word "common" in Chinese conversion dialog

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Mihkel Tõnnov 於 2021年8月27日 週五，上午5:26寫道：

> Hi,
>
> Tuomas Hietala () kirjutas 25.08.2021 kell 19:10:
>
> > Hello Sophie,
> >
> > sophi kirjoitti 25.8.2021 18:56:
> > > below, there is the extended tip:
> > >   > > context="chineseconversiondialog|extended_tip|commonterms">Converts
> > > words with two or more characters that are in the list of common terms.
> > > After the list is scanned, the remaining text is converted character by
> > > character.
> > > So I'd say frequently occurring terms that are in the list.
> > > But I don't write Chinese, so my understanding of the context may be
> > > wrong :)
> >
> > That would be my guess too, but in at least Finnish and Swedish it's
> > currently translated the other way, i.e. "mutually shared". Are those
> > translations based on guessing or knowledge? I have no idea.
> >
>
> Duplicating my comment from Weblate here as well:
> I think it has to be "common" as in "frequent, occurring often" – the other
> meaning would make little sense in this context: if a term is common (as in
> "shared") between Traditional and Simplified script, then what is there to
> convert? Actual Chinese speakers, please correct me if I'm wrong :)


Yeah. It is used for Simplified and Traditional Chinese Conversion.

Common terms are shared in both languages, like Fire “火”, Air “風”, Earth
“土” ,Water “水” ,etc.

However, different terms referring to the same thing exist between China
and Taiwan.
For example, potato is “土豆” in simplified Chinese while “馬鈴薯” in
traditional Chinese.


>
> Anyway, thanks for raising this – if my reasoning is correct, then it means
> the current translation in my language has been wrong for
> gods-know-how-many years.
>
> Best,
> Mihkel
> Estonian translator
>
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[libreoffice-l10n] Ask for adding reviewer for traditional Chinese language

[Cheng-Chia Tseng]

Hi sophi,

I would like to ask for adding translation reviewers for traditional
Chinese on LibreOffice Weblate site.

Jeff Huang: s8321...@gmail.com
Frank Weng: frank...@goodhorse.idv.tw

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[libreoffice-l10n] Weblate: File uploading failed

[Cheng-Chia Tseng]

Hi,

I just tried to upload translation file to libo_ui-master/cuimessages for
traditional Chinese, zh_TW (zh_Hant), but failed. The file is the
attachment.

The process:
1. Download the original translation file
2. Work offline with Poedit
3. Upload the file with parameters below:
File upload mode: Add as translation needing edit,
Processing of strings needing edit: Do not import,
Overwrite existing translations: Checked

Then, the error message shows "right sibling's left-link doesn't match:
block 37929 links to 37930 instead of expected 1 in index
'trans_unit_has_failing_check_2f1475f3'."

Not knowing how to fix it, please help.

Thanks.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate: new hardware

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sophi  於 2019年12月9日 週一 下午7:05寫道：

> Hi,
>
> We have now switched to a dedicated machine to run our Weblate instance.
> Thanks a lot to Guilhem and Christian for their work on that!
>
> If you see "TDF Weblate STAGING - LibreOffice" then, you are on the old
> instance where translations are blocked. If you see "TDF Weblate -
> LibreOffice" then you are on the new instance, DNS has been updated
>
> As soon as everything is checked on the new machine, we will be able to
> upgrade to a newer version. Don't hesitate to send your feedback to the
> list.
>

Are the migration from Pootle to Weblate finished?
Should we work on Weblate instance or Pootle now? Or both are fine?

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate: Missing features, project folder view and search across the whole project

[Cheng-Chia Tseng]

Christian Lohmaier  於 2019年9月17日 週二
下午6:53寫道：

> Hi *,
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 1:54 PM Cheng-Chia Tseng 
> wrote:
> >
> > In Pootle, translators can search specific term/translation in the whole
> > project, such as LibreOffice UI, LibreOffice Help, LibreOffice Online,
> etc.
>
> You can also search in a whole project in weblate.
> But what weblate doesn't offer is limiting search to a "folder" (since
> weblate doesn't have concept of folders)
> So in weblate it is either whole project or single file (component)
>

If I am working on LibreOffice UI/ LibreOffice Online, then I donʼt want to
go through LibreOffice Help when searching.
Fixing translations in LibreOffice Help is kind of time-consuming and
torturing, so I work with UI/Online first. :S


> > This feature enables translators to check existing terms or translations
> > and fix them.
>
> Hmm. I wonder whether an additional Glossary-based check would fill
> this gap in a more elegant way?
> I.e. you add your terms to glossary/terminology and we maybe could
> write a check for strings that don't have a translation that matches
> the glossary.
>

> Weblate already has a default "inconsistent translation" check
> https://docs.weblate.org/en/weblate-3.8/user/checks.html#inconsistent
> that follows a similar idea (but is not enabled in our instance
> currently, since same string is corner case in our project, and more
> likely than not it is in different context that requires different
> translation, so I'm afraid that check would cause too many false
> positives) - and for same string weblate has dedicated "other
> occurrences" section when doing regular translation, example:
>
> https://vm137.documentfoundation.org/translate/libo_ui-master/scaddinsmessages/de/?checksum=f718cc3da84a2ebf


Yeah, I do notice the feature as I work on Weblate to translate the UI of
Weblate for some years.
However, finding inconsistent translations is another issue.

The idea of searching across the whole project mentioned above is mostly
happened when we are "changing the translation of specific terms".


> > Listing the components as folders under the project and searching text
> > across the whole project are quite important features in the daily
> > translation workflow.
>
> But this also sounds also like something that can be done more easily
> offline, with the po files directly?
>

Thatʼs true we can do it offline, but the challenge we face is that Pootle
does this well online and we are used to it. T-T


> That said: if we were to have a solution for aggregation by folder, we
> could put both help and ui into a single project solving your issue?
> Not sure whether I did really understand the problem correctly.
>

Yes! That might be a good solution. :)


> > The way Pootle works is designed to serve multiple translation files
> under
> > different projects which fits LibreOffice well while Weblate is not.
>
> Don't quite get that, since pootle also is limiting stuff on a
> per-project basis. (but within the project it works on folders, with
> automatic aggregation, that's right)
>

Agree. It is more about the user experience part for translators working on
multiple files under one project, although it might seem nothing special.


> > If we are moving to Weblate, and that should be solved to fill the
> missing
> > gap between them.
>
> Can you give a full example of what you do in pootle currently?
> That would help me understand the issue better and maybe come up with
> an easier workaround.
> (Since adding folder-based view on weblate is nothing you should wait
> for - that would likely take a while/if at all...)
>

I typically click "LibreOffice Master UI" first, then click the different
components to translate.
If I find something translated wrongly (I may notice it in fuzzy, under the
translation memory pane below or see it in neighboring strings) when I am
going though the fuzzy/untranlsated strings, I will do the cross search
between projects (such as Master, LibreOffice 6.3 UI, LibreOffice 6.2 UI)
to fix them all at once (like bug fix and backport).

Actually, I totally support the move to Weblate in any time.

I just want to express that Poole has some advantages that we are used to,
and it is always better that we can have that again no matter how much the
time it might take.
There will be more of joy when we translate for LibreOffice projects as
before with folder-based view.
I also work on other small projects which have few files as well. I don't
think folder-based view is needed with those small projects.
However, in my point of view, LibreOffice needs it because of the
complexity of files.

If we canʼt have that after all, it is fine as well because we have
collected opinions an

[libreoffice-l10n] Weblate: Missing features, project folder view and search across the whole project

[Cheng-Chia Tseng]

In Pootle, translators can search specific term/translation in the whole
project, such as LibreOffice UI, LibreOffice Help, LibreOffice Online, etc.

This feature enables translators to check existing terms or translations
and fix them. Weblate only provides the search and replace tool, but not
useful as you typically have to search for existing ones first (view) and
then to decide to replace them all once or manually change them according
to the context one by one (edit).

Listing the components as folders under the project and searching text
across the whole project are quite important features in the daily
translation workflow.

The way Pootle works is designed to serve multiple translation files under
different projects which fits LibreOffice well while Weblate is not.

If we are moving to Weblate, and that should be solved to fill the missing
gap between them.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate instance for testing purposes

[Cheng-Chia Tseng]

Olivier Hallot  於 2019年8月27日 週二 下午11:45寫道：

> Hi
> You can restrict to disply your language only in your profile in
> "translated languages". Then save the setting.
>

Yeah, I have done that already.
I'm talking about Weblate lists one file by one file instead of folder view
display as Pootle does.
That is the problem for me to choose the right project (better to see UI
/Help / Online in group).

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate instance for testing purposes

[Cheng-Chia Tseng]

sophi  於 2019年8月27日 週二 下午10:38寫道：

> Hi all,
>
> We have deployed a Weblate instance for testing purpose here:
> https://vm137.documentfoundation.org/
>
> You can login with your Pootle account. Cloph has updated it with the
> last strings from master.
>
> *NOTE*: *it is for testing purpose only*, the test will go-on until end
> of LibOCon and we will make a decision about migration from Pootle to
> Weblate after this test.
>
> Anonymous making suggestions are not reflected here, only those
> belonging to a group are able to test.
>
> Your feedback is very welcome of course, we will take it into account
> before making a decision.
>

There are too many files and paths. Finding the right one I would like to
translate is so painful.
It will definitely better to use folder-like display as Pootle.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] What's the difference between "Box List" and "List Box"

[Cheng-Chia Tseng]

Thanks a lot! :)

Muhammet Kara  於 2018年12月25日 週二 上午4:43寫道：

> Hi Cheng-Chia,
>
> "Box List Blue", "Box List Green", "Box List Red", "Box List Yellow" are
> names of Table Styles, and they are not related to the "List Box" string in
> the traditional sense. You may find the list of the Table Styles on the
> side panel of Writer: https://pasteboard.co/HTgjMRl.png
>
> Best,
> Muhammet
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Cheng-Chia Tseng" 
> To: "Libreoffice Translation List" 
> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 8:36:18 PM
> Subject: [libreoffice-l10n] What's the difference between "Box List" and
> "List Box"
>
> I'm translating LibreOffice UI Master and find new strings as "Box List
> Blue", "Box List Red", etc.
> I search for some old strings to make the translations consistent and the
> results showing there are strings such as "Form List Box" (string ID:
> RDGEE), List Box (string ID: sGMDt).
>
> Are these two strings intended to be different? Or are they the same?
>
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[libreoffice-l10n] What's the difference between "Box List" and "List Box"

[Cheng-Chia Tseng]

I'm translating LibreOffice UI Master and find new strings as "Box List
Blue", "Box List Red", etc.
I search for some old strings to make the translations consistent and the
results showing there are strings such as "Form List Box" (string ID:
RDGEE), List Box (string ID: sGMDt).

Are these two strings intended to be different? Or are they the same?

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[libreoffice-l10n] To edit the "Language instructions" in the right sidebar of the Pootle

[Cheng-Chia Tseng]

Hi all,

In the old Pootle installation, the administrator of the local language can
set and edit the "Language instructions" at the right sidebar for the
language.

I have set the instructions for traditional Chinese before, and would like
to edit part of the content now. How can I change it?

Thanks.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice download page: Two short strings to translate

[Cheng-Chia Tseng]

Here is the translation of traditional Chinese (zh-tw on system or zh-hant
on web)

To choose another language, click here.
如果要選擇其他語言，請點這裡。

Older versions of LibreOffice (may be unsupported!) are available in the
archive.
舊版的 LibreOffice (可能已沒有支援) 放在存檔庫中。

Joan Montané 於 2018年3月21日 週三，下午3:44寫道：

> Hi, Mike
>
> Catalan (ca) translations below
>
> 2018-03-16 14:48 GMT+01:00 Mike Saunders <
> mike.saund...@documentfoundation.org>:
>
> >
> >
> > To choose another language, click here.
> >
>
> ca: Feu clic aquí per a triar una altra llengua.
>
> >
> > Older versions of LibreOffice (may be unsupported!) are available in the
> > archive.
> >
>
> ca: Teniu disponibles les versions anteriors del LibreOffice en l'arxiu.
> (És possible que no tinguin assistència tècnica!)
>
> Regards,
> Joan Montané
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] The change of the translated strings does not update in recent releases

[Cheng-Chia Tseng]

Sophie <gautier.sop...@gmail.com> 於 2018年2月8日 週四 下午11:41寫道：

> Hi,
> Le 08/02/2018 à 16:18, Cheng-Chia Tseng a écrit :
> > Hi all,
> >
> > There is a big issue I met with the translations provided in recent
> > releases of LibreOffice.
> > In the development stage of 5.3, we change all the "Gallery" translation
> > from "畫廊" into "圖庫" for traditional Chinese language.
> >
> > It can be confirmed that we DO change all of the translations related to
> > Gallery in Pootle.
> >
> https://translations.documentfoundation.org/zh_TW/libo_ui/translate/#search=%E7%95%AB%E5%BB%8A=source,target=case
>
> This link doesn't work for me, could you add the exact link to the
> string so I can get it's ID too.
>

It should be LAb2y.

By the way, vnPii (which is "Image") is still in English in the translated
interface, while 4FE4o (which is "Area") was changed as well but not get
into the recent releases.


> >
> > However, some of the translations are not changed in 5.4 release and 6.0
> > release. After launching LibreOffice 5.4 or 6.0 and checking the
> > translation of "Gallery" in the sidebar, we get "畫廊" still.
> >
> > There are only LibreOffice 5.4 on Linux platform and LibreOffice 6.0 RC
> on
> > Linux platform were changed as expected. But, LibreOffice 6.0 on ALL
> > platforms does not use the existing translations.
> >
> > This problem bothers quite some time, it creates inconsistency of the
> > glossary. Users are keeping complaining. I don't understand what's wrong
> > with the process. What we have translated in Poole just cannot get into
> the
> > recent releases.
> >
> > Is there anyway to prevent this kind of problem in the future?
> >
> > I have filed a bug report as well:
> > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115551
> >
> Cheers
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[libreoffice-l10n] The change of the translated strings does not update in recent releases

[Cheng-Chia Tseng]

Hi all,

There is a big issue I met with the translations provided in recent
releases of LibreOffice.
In the development stage of 5.3, we change all the "Gallery" translation
from "畫廊" into "圖庫" for traditional Chinese language.

It can be confirmed that we DO change all of the translations related to
Gallery in Pootle.
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/zh_TW/libo_ui/translate/#search=%E7%95%AB%E5%BB%8A=source,target=case

However, some of the translations are not changed in 5.4 release and 6.0
release. After launching LibreOffice 5.4 or 6.0 and checking the
translation of "Gallery" in the sidebar, we get "畫廊" still.

There are only LibreOffice 5.4 on Linux platform and LibreOffice 6.0 RC on
Linux platform were changed as expected. But, LibreOffice 6.0 on ALL
platforms does not use the existing translations.

This problem bothers quite some time, it creates inconsistency of the
glossary. Users are keeping complaining. I don't understand what's wrong
with the process. What we have translated in Poole just cannot get into the
recent releases.

Is there anyway to prevent this kind of problem in the future?

I have filed a bug report as well:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115551

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Telegram channels dedicated to l10n

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Kevin Suo  於 2017年11月16日 週四 下午6:40寫道：

> At least 1.3 billion CJK people do not have access to Telegram now - it is
> blocked in Mainland China.
> It will be great if some of you guy use Wechat and we setup a wechat group.
>

WeChat is reported by the media for being confirmed to endanger users'
privacy. I don't encourge CJK people in other region to use WeChat.

Is other alternative instant messaging tool except WeChat you can use  in
China? Such as Signal (https://signal.org/) or Matrix (https://matrix.org/),
or just IRC. We can have a IRC bridge set up to link between the Telegram
group and the IRC chat room.

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[libreoffice-l10n] Re: Ask for Askbot Chinese (Traditional) language enablement

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Cheng-Chia Tseng <pswo10...@gmail.com> 於 2017年9月28日 週四 下午2:05寫道：

> Hi,
>
> We, the translators of Chinese (Traditional) language (locale: zh-TW),
> have finished the translation of Askbot for some months.
>
> I would like to request Askbot for LibreOffice to deploy Chinese
> (Traditional) language.
>
> Thanks!
>

Do I need to contact someone who is in charge of Askbot for LibreOffice
site as well?

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[libreoffice-l10n] Ask for Askbot Chinese (Traditional) language enablement

[Cheng-Chia Tseng]

Hi,

We, the translators of Chinese (Traditional) language (locale: zh-TW), have
finished the translation of Askbot for some months.

I would like to request Askbot for LibreOffice to deploy Chinese
(Traditional) language.

Thanks!

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translation of 4 words for helponline.

[Cheng-Chia Tseng]

I have changed the zh_TW and zh_CN title to better present the difference
and reflect the name used locally.
Also the translation of "contents" of zh_TW is fixed.

Please update it. Thanks! :)

Martin Srebotnjak  於 2017年9月5日 週二 上午4:20寫道：

> Slovenian just landed.
>
> Lp, m.
>
> 2017-09-04 2:20 GMT+02:00 Olivier Hallot :
>
> > Hello l10n team
> >
> > To have the new help online localized I need your assistance to
> > translate 4 words: 'Index', 'Contents', 'Find' and 'Language'.
> >
> > I have set a wiki page with more details at
> > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/NewHelpOnline . Just
> > edit the section of your language using your native character set.
> >
> > Thank you in advance!
> >
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[libreoffice-l10n] Pootle does not response with translation archive upload

[Cheng-Chia Tseng]

Hi,

Because of Pootle being so unstable, I work offline to save my time.

However, I keep encountering uploading error recently. The most frequent
problem met is "504 Gateway Time-out" with large file such as
libo_ui/officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI.po which is 733 kb
in my case while other smaller files are fine. (Sorry that I don't know
what it mean actually)

Is this problem could solved? The problem blocks my workflow and I don't
want to proceed one translation by one and waiting for the slow response of
Pootle.

Thanks.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Bug 104954 - DOCX Export: Heading Styles are Wrong when Open with MSO 2010 (because of translation conflict of "Heading" and "Title")

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锁琨珑 <suokunl...@126.com> 於 2016年12月29日 週四 下午2:32寫道：

> Hi Cheng-Chia, see my reply below:
>
> 在 12/29/2016 02:06 PM, Cheng-Chia Tseng 写道:
> > 锁琨珑 <suokunl...@126.com> 於 2016年12月29日 週四 下午12:35寫道：
> >
> >> Dear All:
> >>
> >> I encountered a bug related to docx export and have managed to find a
> >> solution for this.  The bug is, in some non-english UI, if you apply
> >> some paragraphs the "Heading 1" style then save this document as DOCX,
> >> when reopen with MSO2010 the heading 1 style is showing as inherit from
> >> "Title", which causes all paragraphs of Heading 1 style to be centered
> >> in MSO2010.
> >>
> >> The workaround of this issue is to change the translation of "Heading"
> >> to something different than the localized string for "Title" as shown in
> >> MSO2010. For example, in MSO 2010 the style name for "Title" is "标题",
> >> although the word "Heading" has the same meaning "标题" in Chinese, I
> >> intentionally changed the translation of "Heading" to "标题样式" (meaning
> >> "Heading Styles") so that it does not conflict with the Title style in
> >> MSO2010.
> >>
> > I don't think translating "Heading 1" from "标题 1" to "标题样式 1" would fix
> the
> > problem.
> >
> > If you check the docx file in MSO2010, "Heading 1" still is "Heading 1"
> > style, no matter what the translation is.
> >
> > The problem is that the formatting style of Heading 1 (align to the left)
> > in docx file exported by LibreOffice would change (center) in MSO2010.
> >
> No, I don't mean to change from "Heading 1" to "标题样式 1", I only mean to
> change "Heading" to "标题样式". All the translations for the other "Heading
> N" styles need not be changed. Remember in Writer "Heading N" are all
> based on "Heading".
>

I finally got what you mean! Thanks.

"Heading 1" to "Heading N" all are inherited from the "Heading" style.
However, the localized MSO2010 (e.g. all Chinese variants) use the same
translation "標題" for both "Heading" and "Title."

Thus MSO2010 matches the "Heading" format to "Title" format unexpectedly
and makes all "Heading", "Heading 1" to "Heading N" align to center as
"Title" does.

And you are trying to help MSO2010 match the right  "Heading" style instead
of "Title" style by changing the translation of "Heading" style into
something different from "標題".
However, the way to help MSO2010 makes the translation of "Heading" not
consistent with the Heading from"Heading 1" to "Heading N".

That might be a workaround within LibreOffice for increasing
interoperability with MSO2010, but I think that is far more than what we
should do from our position. Plus, you said the problem is a MSO2010-only
problem, not reproducible with MSO 2013 and 2016. Although Chinese
(traditional) is affected as well like Chinese (simplified), I prefer not
to change the translation. After all, it is that localized MSO not picking
the right style because it uses same translation for both "Heading" and
"Title".


> I don't know the reason behind this, but this change really solves my
> problem.
> If you look at the docx in MSO2010, before make the changes, "标题 1" is
> Based On (基于) "Title (标题)", which is wrong. It should be Based On
> "Heading" in MSO 2010. "Title (标题)" is centered, this caused the heading
> 1 centered.
> After the change the translation of "Heading" to "标题样式", "标题 1" is
> Based On (基于) "Heading (标题样式)", which is correct.
> >> This may be a bug for MSO2010, not for LibreOffice. However, to make the
> >> DOCX files created by LibreOffice showing the correct formating in
> >> MSO2010, I suggest all language teams to check whether this issue exists
> >> in your language, and if yes, make the changes in pootle accordingly.
> >>
> >> See bug https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104954 for
> >> more details.
> >>
> >> --
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> >> LibreOffice Simplified Chinese Localization Team
> >> Voip: 6...@sip.suokunlong.cn
> >> Wechat: @Junglenoo
> >>
> >>
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Bug 104954 - DOCX Export: Heading Styles are Wrong when Open with MSO 2010 (because of translation conflict of "Heading" and "Title")

[Cheng-Chia Tseng]

锁琨珑  於 2016年12月29日 週四 下午12:35寫道：

> Dear All:
>
> I encountered a bug related to docx export and have managed to find a
> solution for this.  The bug is, in some non-english UI, if you apply
> some paragraphs the "Heading 1" style then save this document as DOCX,
> when reopen with MSO2010 the heading 1 style is showing as inherit from
> "Title", which causes all paragraphs of Heading 1 style to be centered
> in MSO2010.
>
> The workaround of this issue is to change the translation of "Heading"
> to something different than the localized string for "Title" as shown in
> MSO2010. For example, in MSO 2010 the style name for "Title" is "标题",
> although the word "Heading" has the same meaning "标题" in Chinese, I
> intentionally changed the translation of "Heading" to "标题样式" (meaning
> "Heading Styles") so that it does not conflict with the Title style in
> MSO2010.
>

I don't think translating "Heading 1" from "标题 1" to "标题样式 1" would fix the
problem.

If you check the docx file in MSO2010, "Heading 1" still is "Heading 1"
style, no matter what the translation is.

The problem is that the formatting style of Heading 1 (align to the left)
in docx file exported by LibreOffice would change (center) in MSO2010.


> This may be a bug for MSO2010, not for LibreOffice. However, to make the
> DOCX files created by LibreOffice showing the correct formating in
> MSO2010, I suggest all language teams to check whether this issue exists
> in your language, and if yes, make the changes in pootle accordingly.
>
> See bug https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104954 for
> more details.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle super slow

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Valter Mura  於 2016年12月5日 週一 上午2:37寫道：

> Il 04/12/2016 18:04, Giovanni Caligaris ha scritto:
> > Anyone having the same issue?
> >
> > I can bearly do any work.
> >
> > -Gio
> >
> Hi Giovanni
>
> I agree with you and Leif.
>
>
Extremely slow and unbearable.
Offline translation works and saves more time, but uploading fails on some
specific  po files. :S

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Pootle keeps "calculating" a file

[Cheng-Chia Tseng]

Same with Chinese (Taiwan) language.
Always calculating the project files
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/zh_TW/

Michael Wolf 於 2016年10月27日 週四，上午4:31寫道：

Mihkel Tõnnov schrieb:
> 2016-10-23 14:19 GMT+03:00 Mihkel Tõnnov :

>> Pootle has been calculating "some data" for this file since yesterday:
>> https://translations.documentfoundation.org/et/
>> libo52_ui/officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI.po
>>
>> I'd like to verify that the file is completely translated before
>> translations get pulled for 5.2.3.2 release, so could someone make Pootle
>> finish whatever it's doing with that file?
>>
>
> Still going at it, also for Amharic and English (UK):
>
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/projects/libo52_ui/officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI.po

Hi,

I have the same issue:

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/hsb/libo_ui/starmath/source.po

Regards,

Michael
Translator for Upper and Lower Sorbian

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle is back!

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Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com 於 2015年6月16日 週二 下午7:26寫道：

 Hi all,

 Good news and thanks to Dwayne's hard work, the migration is done and
 Pootle is running on a new server. You can now reach it on the same
 address as usual:
 https://translations.documentfoundation.org/

 There is an error remaining: anyone with duplicate emails won't be able
 to login. If it's your case, please report to this list and mention the
 mail address we have to delete.

 Please report any other issue you may encounter on this list.
 Thanks to all for your patience, and thanks a lot to Dwayne too.


I cannot find the way the download all the po files and upload them after
offline work.

Offline work is quite vital to my workflow, because Pootle response too
slowly with my internet connection.

Any information?

Thanks!




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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle is back!

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Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com 於 2015年6月18日 週四 下午11:42寫道：

 Hi,
 Le 18/06/2015 17:31, Cheng-Chia Tseng a écrit :
  Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com 於 2015年6月16日 週二 下午7:26寫道：
 
  Hi all,
 
  Good news and thanks to Dwayne's hard work, the migration is done and
  Pootle is running on a new server. You can now reach it on the same
  address as usual:
  https://translations.documentfoundation.org/
 
  There is an error remaining: anyone with duplicate emails won't be able
  to login. If it's your case, please report to this list and mention the
  mail address we have to delete.
 
  Please report any other issue you may encounter on this list.
  Thanks to all for your patience, and thanks a lot to Dwayne too.
 
 
  I cannot find the way the download all the po files and upload them after
  offline work.
 
  Offline work is quite vital to my workflow, because Pootle response too
  slowly with my internet connection.
 
  Any information?
 See the Overview part here:
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/PootleGuide#Overview
 There is a panel on the right hand that contains the links to download
 and upload the translation. So select your language and a project then
 you'll see the panel.


Thank you!!! That's so helpful! :)


 Cheers
 Sophie
 
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Multilingual planet

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On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 The multilingual Planet is now on-line here:
 http://planet.documentfoundation.org/multi/global/

 If you want your blog feed to be added, please send a mail to
 webs...@global.libreoffice.org or open a ticket on Redmine.

 Thanks a lot to Cloph and Charles for pushing this, I'm really happy for
 our Native Language community :)

What a great news! Hooray!

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[libreoffice-l10n] Ask for explanation of weight from starmath

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There is a string weight from starmath/uiconfig/smath/ui (#CDcBD).
I am wondering what is this string actually means.

Is that something like font weight? or line weight? or something else?

I could not translate this word as I do not have enough information. :S



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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] different total words of LibreOffice UI for Chinese (Taiwan)

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Finally I solved with manually checking files, deleting files and
reuploading files.

On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:53 AM, Cheng-Chia Tseng pswo10...@gmail.com wrote:
 I found that pootle seems to have something wrong with LibreOffice 4.1
 - UI / Chinese (Taiwan). [0]

 The total numbers of words in Chinese (Taiwan) is 96172 words, while
 others are 95916 words. Problems are below:

 There are two uiconfig subforders under xmlsecurity folder.
 Other folders with different numbers of words are extensions and uui.

 I have tried Rescan project files and Update against templates but
 does not help.
 Could anybody help fix it?

 0. https://translations.documentfoundation.org/zh_TW/libo_ui/

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[libreoffice-l10n] different total words of LibreOffice UI for Chinese (Taiwan)

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I found that pootle seems to have something wrong with LibreOffice 4.1
- UI / Chinese (Taiwan). [0]

The total numbers of words in Chinese (Taiwan) is 96172 words, while
others are 95916 words. Problems are below:

There are two uiconfig subforders under xmlsecurity folder.
Other folders with different numbers of words are extensions and uui.

I have tried Rescan project files and Update against templates but
does not help.
Could anybody help fix it?

0. https://translations.documentfoundation.org/zh_TW/libo_ui/

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Google Play Store - in need of translation

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Well, I have found out that origninal English content in RemoteHowTo wiki
is not English now, maybe someone have edited it :S

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Impress/RemoteHowTo

I am not good at wiki editing, could someone help fix that?


On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Martin Srebotnjak mi...@filmsi.net wrote:

 And I can confirm - the UI of the app seems to be English only
 although I have localized it in the po files. Something must have gone
 wrong with your build.

 Lp, m.

 2013/2/10 Martin Srebotnjak mi...@filmsi.net:
  Application title: Daljinec za LibreOffice Impress
 
  And it seems you did not include my update I sent to this list
  (addition of the Linux only warning and the Slovenian wiki link).
 
  Thanks, m.
 
  2013/2/10 Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org:
  Martin Srebotnjak wrote:
  Does this mean that the title of the app can also be translated?
 
  Yeps - though use with care. I'd like to keep LibreOffice in this
  prominent place as much as possible.
 
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Google Play Store - in need of translation

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!
  ---%--
 
  Btw,
 
  In first para what is the meaning of free?
 
  And the download page may be confusing for people:
 
  Download LibreOffice from http://www.libreoffice.org/download/ 
 
  Most people will go and download the installer and think that they
  will install an free office suit for their Android device.
 
  Imho:
  Download LibreOffice from http://www.libreoffice.org/download/  (For
  Windows, Mac and GNU/Linux)
 
  May be better.
 
  Best regards,
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Insert button in Insert Table dlg

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On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:43 AM, Mihkel Tõnnov mihh...@gmail.com wrote:

 2013/1/27 Sophie Gautier gautier.sop...@gmail.com

  Hi all,
 
  I found another string still in English (4.0RC2) in the Insert Table
  dialog (Ctrl+F12). The Insert button is in English. Do you get it too ?


Same here with Chinese (Traditional) version.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Using i.../i in strings

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You can only use html markup in where it is supported. For example, those
source strings have html markups should support this.

It means that it is not supported almost the time.


On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 7:47 PM, Sérgio Marques smarque...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 In words like Script, since we in Portugal don´t have a translation for it
 we used iScript/i.

 But now when I was installing the 3.6.4 version, in the extension section
 of the installer there are:

 Scripts for JavaScript
 Scripts for Beanshell
 Scripts for Python

 But what I get is

 iScripts/i for JavaScript
 iScripts/i for Beanshell
 iScripts/i for Python

 Why is this happening? What I really wanted is to make them italic. Am I
 doing something wrong or this doesn´t work? I´ve also applied same tags for
 wildcard and probably others that I can´t recall. Maybe they´re all wrong.


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[libreoffice-l10n] localization enhancement for Chinese (Taiwan)

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Hi, I have encountered two problems with LibreOffice 3.5.
They are about the localization part (technical part), not translatable part.
And sorry, I don't know much about programming. :S

First, Chinese (Taiwan) uses 中一刀 (which means middle one cut) page
size a lot.  It is half size of a letter (8.5in x 5.5in, while letter
is 8.5in x11.1 in).
I have filed a bug, and need someone to help us. [0]

Second, there are two identical Chinese (Taiwan) date format in LibreOffice.
Both are in GGGEE年M月D日 = 中華民國88年12月31日, while one should be
corrected as in GGEE年M月D日 = 民國88年12月31日. [1]

Any comments on how should we do to get helped more easily are
welcome. I will do my best! :)


0. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47176
1. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46947
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] localization enhancement for Chinese (Taiwan)

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On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Sérgio Marques smarque...@gmail.com wrote:

 If I understood correct You should grab the file in

 http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/i18npool/source/localedata/data


 Pick the one You want, create the diff and send it to Eike.

Thanks, Sergio! I created a diff and sent a mail to Eike for that issue. :)

Does anyone know how should I do to add a new page size?


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Quick poll on QA on your localized version

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On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Sophie Gautier gautier.sop...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 This is a quick poll on QA done by your team on the builds in your language,
 please take 5 mn to answer:

 - Are you doing manual tests on the builds?
        . on the RC only?
I have builded for seeing the new UI strings.

        . using Litmus?
No. How to use it? Any guide?

 - Are you running other types of tests
        .which one?
Well, I don't know

 - You are not doing any tests
        . because you're not interested
        . because you don't have the manpower to run them
        . because they are not adapted to your language
        . because you're not aware of any test
I am not aware of any test.


 Thanks a lot for your answers :-)

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[libreoffice-l10n] Win_x86_install_multi.msi language problem on Chinese (Hong Kong)

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LibreOffice now provides two Chinese languages now, one is Chinese
(simplified), the other is Chinese (traditional).
Infact, Chinese (simplified) is zh-cn, and Chinese (traditional) is zh-tw now.

Hong Kong is a place using Chinese (traditional) language, which is zh-hk.
However, since LibreOffice only provides zh-tw now, zh-tw should be
selected instead of zh-hk or zh-cn.

There are some Chinese (traditional) users in Hong Kong complaining
that installer automatically choose Chinese (simplified) for them.
How to solve this problem? Should I file a bug report for them or
inform someone who is dealing with the installer to investigate the
problem?

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Win_x86_install_multi.msi language problem on Chinese (Hong Kong)

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Wow, thank you for the information, Andras! :)


On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 2012/3/2 Cheng-Chia Tseng pswo10...@gmail.com:
 There are some Chinese (traditional) users in Hong Kong complaining
 that installer automatically choose Chinese (simplified) for them.
 How to solve this problem? Should I file a bug report for them or
 inform someone who is dealing with the installer to investigate the
 problem?

 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46181

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: OK and Cancel shortcut key missing in translation

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I am curious why OK and Cancel has shortcut key indication in Linux
version? And underlining a Chinese character is obviously strange and
misleading.

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm very sorry, I replied, but it bounced back from the list ans I did
 not notice. Here is what I wrote:

 Those OK and Cancel buttons are from vcl/source/src.po. Original
 English strings do not have shortcut keys. It is logical, because
 Enter is OK, and Esc is Cancel, there is no need for extra shortcuts O
 and C.

 Best regards,
 Andras

 2012/2/28 Cheng-Chia Tseng pswo10...@gmail.com:
 Any comment or suggestion? If you have an idea popping out, please tell me.

 Thanks.

 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:37 AM, Cheng-Chia Tseng pswo10...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 I have found out that since 3.4, the shortcut key representation for
 OK and Cancel in Chinese (Traditional) is missing.

 For example, ~OK is translated into 確定(~O) and ~Cancel into 取消(~C).
 Nevertheless, they are not showed both in Linux and Windows.

 The screenshot for Linux: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pswo10680/6789597746/
 The screenshot for Windows: 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pswo10680/6789597806/

 At first, I thought it was my fault translating them into ~確定 and ~取消
 something like that.
 I downloaded the zip of translations and did some investigations.
 I used 'grep -r --include=*.po PATTERN .' to search for ~確定, ~取消,
 ~OK and ~Cancel to see if there are strings with the wrong
 translations.
 The result is that I didn't find out any translations wrong (assigning
 the shortcut key to characters which cannot be shortcut keys).

 I am not sure that I have found out all the possibilities or not.

 However, I am curious that if it only happens on Chinese (Traditional)
 interface or not. And if yes, how should I find out the way or the
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Testing current pootle translation

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Pre-release along with language packs are good way to see the
translation result. However, it is kind of late to see the translation
error in that build. Problems are often caught after final release
because of the time to see if translations are well being short.

By the way, Key-ID language build will be awesome to help translators
find out which string is what we see. It will save considerable time
for us. I hope it can be downloaded more easily for translators.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Jon Lachmann j...@lachmann.nu wrote:
 Hi andras,

 Would it be possible to implement an easier procedure to test new 
 translations?
 Maybe integrating them into nightly builds or similar?

 It is very hard to know exactly where in the program a specific phrase will 
 be shown,
 and what other phrases will be along it to create a good total result.

 On a side note: Why are we using an email list instead of a forums for this? 
 Email
 lists are great for small communities that need to gain attention from its 
 members,
 now this list is just becoming flooded since we have so many contributors.

 A forum would be easier to keep clean and reuse information that is already 
 available.
 A mailing list keeps users that are not used to it away from the project too 
 (it sure
 took me a while to join my first list, when i on the other hand didnt 
 hesitate one second
 when joining a forum)

 Best regards Jon

 Hello Jon,

 2012/2/24 Jon Lachmann j...@lachmann.nu:
 Hello!

 How can i
 download and test the latest
 translation from the pootle server in
 libreoffice?


 You need to build LibreOffice from the source code. It is
 not (yet)
 possible to snap-in translations from Pootle to an
 existing
 LibreOffice install.

 For howtos start reading
 here:
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Native_Build

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 regards,
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] Locale data date acceptance patterns, localizers HEADS UP please :)

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On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Eike Rathke er...@redhat.com wrote:
 Hi Cheng-Chia,

 On Tuesday, 2012-01-17 12:22:17 +0800, Cheng-Chia Tseng wrote:

 For zh-TW, full date patterns are:
 Y-M-D
 Y/M/D
 Y.M.D

 Y-M-D is the always accepted ISO 8601 pattern, and Y/M/D is already
 generated from FormatElement formatindex=21, no need for those. Added
 Y.M.D

 And incomplete date patterns are:
 M-D
 M/D
 M.D

 With decimal separator '.' the M.D pattern is not possible, added the
 other two. Also added Y年M月D日 and M月D日 as those are defined in
 the format codes, I hope that was correct..

 http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=fa836f7bf0fcdab6029320bdf7830c561d5ea823

 Thanks
  Eike


Thank you a lot! That was correct. :)


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Cannot find some strings in Pootle

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僅适用樣本 = 僅適用於範本
標准 = 標準
現代式，僅僅适用於公司 = 現代式，僅適用於公司
傳統式，僅僅适用於公司 = 傳統式，僅適用於公司

Thanks for your kindly help! :)

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 2012/1/17 Cheng-Chia Tseng pswo10...@gmail.com:
 I found out that some Chinese (Traditional) translations have some
 wrong characters, and wanted to correct them.

 [Edit]  [AutoText] [Only for Templates]

 and other strings have Only word in the string.

 However, Pootle retuned no result for Only for Templates and even no
 result for their corresponding Chinese translation.
 How could I find them and correct them?

 It is not in Pootle, but in
 extras/source/autotext/lang/zh-TW/template.bau. Please send me the
 correct string, I'll commit it for you.

 Best regards,
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[libreoffice-l10n] Cannot find some strings in Pootle

[Cheng-Chia Tseng]

I found out that some Chinese (Traditional) translations have some
wrong characters, and wanted to correct them.

[Edit]  [AutoText] [Only for Templates]

and other strings have Only word in the string.

However, Pootle retuned no result for Only for Templates and even no
result for their corresponding Chinese translation.
How could I find them and correct them?

Thanks.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] Locale data date acceptance patterns, localizers HEADS UP please :)

[Cheng-Chia Tseng]

Sorry, to add one more pattern.

For zh-TW, full date patterns are:
Y-M-D
Y/M/D
Y.M.D

And incomplete date patterns are:
M-D
M/D
M.D

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Cheng-Chia Tseng pswo10...@gmail.com wrote:
 For zh-TW, full date patterns are:
 Y-M-D
 Y/M/D

 And incomplete date patterns are:
 M-D
 M/D


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Online update service + localized download URLs

[Cheng-Chia Tseng]

Language: zh-tw
Download page: http://zh-tw.libreoffice.org/download/
Pre-release download page: http://zh-tw.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Thanks!


On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 3:46 PM, AWASHIRO Ikuya ik...@fruitsbasket.info wrote:
 Hi,

 On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 22:42:45 +0100
 Jan Holesovsky ke...@suse.cz wrote:

 Our QA guys noticed that the URLs it offers are not localized; ie. you
 are always pointed to the International download URLs, while in many
 cases there are nice translated pages.  Here I need your help :-)
 Please - can you fill in the following form for your language, and send
 back to me?

 Japanese:

 Language: ja
 Download page: http://ja.libreoffice.org/download/
 Pre-release download page: http://ja.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

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[libreoffice-l10n] Kyrgyz language support help

[Cheng-Chia Tseng]

Hi, everyone.

I am the translator of Chinese (Taiwan).

Today, Adylbek, a man lived in Xinjiang, China, contacted me to help
LibreOffice Kyrgyz language support.
He does not speak English well, so I help him to post here.

Kyrgyz language code in ISO 639-1 is ky.
Kyrgyz language has two forms of writing styles now, one is Cyrillic
script, the other is Arabic alphabet.

Kyrgyz people lived in Xinjiang, China uses the traditional writing
style, Arabic alphabet.
Kyrgyz people lived in Kyrgyz Republic, uses Cyrillic script instead
of Arabic alphabet since 1940 due to general Soviet policy.

So how can we help Kyrgyz people lived in Xinjiang to have their
localized version of LibreOffice?
I don't know what the appropriate language code for them. Maybe ky-CN?

If they want to get supported, do they need to provide other information?

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Git migration

[Cheng-Chia Tseng]

By the way, why don't we use Translatewiki.net (or something like
that) to translate the contents of wiki?

For example, there are many English strings at left pane, and cannot
be translated now. It is not good for Asian languages.
If we use Translatewiki.net or other solutions, we can translate them.

On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 4:33 AM, Sophie Gautier gautier.sop...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 Git migration should happen tomorrow. Please monitor the documentation
 you have translated on the wiki, there will be some changes done on
 the English pages that need to be reflected by your translation to
 remain exact.
 If you have any questions on this migration, please don't hesitate to
 ask on the dev list.
 Kind regards
 sophi

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Libreoffice products name (writer, cal, base, ...)

[Cheng-Chia Tseng]

We use Write, Calc, Impress, Base and Math respectively for each
program in Traditional Chinese.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Michael Bauer f...@akerbeltz.org wrote:
 A question though - how are they handled in non-Latin scripts like CJK or
 Hindi/Urdu etc?

 Michael

 03/08/2011 14:50, sgrìobh Sophie Gautier:

 Like the others said, these are application names, so better not
 translate them and keep them to not confuse the users already using
 OOo.




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[libreoffice-l10n] Does Open... button of the initial screen need more room for localization

[Cheng-Chia Tseng]

The localized string for Open... such as Chinese (traditional) used
more room than expectation, so the localized string is overlapped by
the black triangle.
I filed a bug some time ago. [1]

But I later use shorter translation (2 full-width characters instead
of 4 ones) to bypass the issue.

If there are no other translators bothered with this issue, we can
close this bug.
Any inputs?

1. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33794

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