Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Strings for LibreOffice websites

[Zeki Bildirici]

 Hi,

Sorry for being away for a while. I need to catch up with the current
situation because I wan't to update the current Turkish website
tr.libreoffice.org.
What is the roadmap & deadline?

Best regards,
Zeki

Ilmari Lauhakangas , 5 Tem 2024 Cum,
17:24 tarihinde şunu yazdı:

> On 5.7.2024 16.51, Tuomas Hietala wrote:
> > Hello Sophie & all,
> >
> > There are a few other components too under the "website" project in
> > Weblate. "extensions" is obviously the extensions website. I'm
> > wondering, though, whether "newdesign" and
> > "mlmmj_footer" are still relevant (or will they be relevant once the new
> > site is launched)? Should they be translated?
>
> newdesign is for the current SilverStripe-based site and mlmmj_footer,
> having a grand total of one string, is for the footer of mailing list
> emails. Seems to be this management software: https://mlmmj.org/
>
> Ilmari
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[libreoffice-l10n] Accesing local silverstripe admin

[Zeki Bildirici]

Hi,

I have been away for a long while. I've created a new username to
access Turkis-tr websites panel from:
https://user.documentfoundation.org/create?skin=bootstrap

my username is kobzeci

Could you please re-authorize me to login as admin role of tr.libreffice.org

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Zeki

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[libreoffice-l10n] Fwd: [libreoffice-website] Request for Turkish Instance of Askbot

[Zeki Bildirici]

Hi,

We have a request for Turkish askbot.

Should we open a ticked on redmine
(https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/projects/infrastructure/issues/new)?

(Askbot software is translted to Turkish at %95 for now:
https://www.transifex.com/askbot/askbot/ .)

Best regards,
Zeki


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From: Muhammet Kara 
Date: 2016-11-14 11:02 GMT+03:00
Subject: [libreoffice-website] Request for Turkish Instance of Askbot
To: webs...@global.libreoffice.org


Hi all,

We would like to have a Turkish instance of the askbot at
https://ask.libreoffice.org/tr/questions/ (or maybe
https://ask.libreoffice.org/tr/sorular/ if it is possible to localize
the URLs) address.

Here are the first three volunteers for the moderation team:

Kara
Gökhan Gurbetoğlu
faruk.omer.cakmak

I appreciate if you could make it happen. :)

Cheers,
Muhammet

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [HEADS UP] Community forum/askbot linked to LibreOffice

[Zeki Bildirici]

2016-08-22 18:41 GMT+03:00 Olivier Hallot :
> Hello L10n Team leaders
Hi,
> The next LO 5.3 release will include a new entry in the applications
> help menu, "Get Help Online".
>
> Menu *Help -> Get Help Online*
>
> This entry aims to quick-link the software to a website with a
> community-driven contents localized website , such as a forum or askbot,
> to be open in the browser. The link will pass the language of your UI
> (not the locale!) to the TDF infra hub.

> Please confirm if you want us to link to the askbot in your language or
> you want the link to point to another website. Beware that your choice
> may not be under TDF infra management.

For Turkish, please add

http://forum.libreoffice.org.tr/

Best regards,
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Request of 2 words translation for Redmine

[Zeki Bildirici]

1 Ara 2015 15:33 tarihinde "Sophie"  yazdı:
>
> Hi all,
Hi Sophie,
> I've a small translation request to be added to redmine, the template is
> ---
> en:
>   label_history_tab_all: History
>   label_history_tab_comments: Comments
> ---

Turkish translation is:
---
tr:
label_history_tab_all: Geçmiş
label_history_tab_comments: Yorumlar  ---
>
Best,
Zeki

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[libreoffice-l10n] Pootle activation and email update

[Zeki Bildirici]

Hi

As pootle updated to its new version, the login process requires a
mail activation. My registered email z...@ozgurlukicin.com was
expired, so i cant do the activation.

Could you please update my account details

Pootle username: zeki
Project: turkish
Project role: administrator
Old e-mail: z...@ozgurlukicin.com
new e-mail: zeki.ozguryazi...@gmail.com

Best regards,
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[libreoffice-l10n] Re: Pootle activation and email update

[Zeki Bildirici]

Please disregard this message, we had done it before.

Sorry,
Zeki

2015-08-01 15:35 GMT+03:00 Zeki Bildirici zeki.ozguryazi...@gmail.com:
 Hi

 As pootle updated to its new version, the login process requires a
 mail activation. My registered email z...@ozgurlukicin.com was
 expired, so i cant do the activation.

 Could you please update my account details

 Pootle username: zeki
 Project: turkish
 Project role: administrator
 Old e-mail: z...@ozgurlukicin.com
 new e-mail: zeki.ozguryazi...@gmail.com

 Best regards,
 Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again

[Zeki Bildirici]

Hi,

I've missed the topic for second time. Sorry for that.

I want to ask that if something said about the new accelerator sign '_'
when placed inside the word, seperates the word and prevents having a
search match.

Best regards,
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] BASIC StrComp and tricky Unicode (Turkish, for example)

[Zeki Bildirici]

Hi Andrew,

I can help you about this issue but i will not be available until next
week.

If the matter is urgent i can forward it to other Turkish users..

Just let you know, there is a bug report abot this -BUT only on Linux
systems which has a username consists i in it. Please see:
https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=68547

also there are some usefull links for i issue on Comment #9

Best regards,
Zeki

2 Oca 2015 10:19 tarihinde Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org
yazdı:


 I am not subscribed to this list, but it was suggested that I might find
someone on this mailing list who can comment on how LO internal Basic
commands behave with respect to Unicode and the current Locale (I am trying
to document the results).

 In the example below, I have a macro that I believe compares a lower case
i (with no dot) to a regular English uppercase i with no dot. I then
compare a regular i with a regular uppercase i. If the internal code
respects locale, then a zero should be displayed and then something that is
not a zero. On my computer with USA English, this macro prints -1 and a
zero.

 I designed this example to work for Turkish because it is an example that
I know.

 Sub StrCompTest
   Print StrComp(ı, I, 0)  ' compare Turkish dotless i with upper case
i
   Print StrComp(i, I, 0)  ' compare lower case i to upper case i
 End Sub


 If someone with a Turkish installation can run this macro and drop me an
email directly (since I am not subscribed), I would appreciate it. I am
trying to provide information outside my limited English speaking
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Fw: [libreoffice-website] Multilingual blog planet: bring up your feeds!

[Zeki Bildirici]

Hi Charles,

Here is my feed details:

RSS:  http://blog.bluzz.net/tag/lo-gezegen/feed/
HG: http://gezegen.linux.org.tr/images/heads/zekibildirici.png
Lang: Turkish  TR-tr

Sorry for top post ;)

Best regards,
Zeki

2014-06-28 12:16 GMT+03:00 Charles-H. Schulz
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org:
 Don't forget to send your blog with your feed no matter what the
 language you're writing is!

 Thanks,

 Charles.

 - Message Transféré -

 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 16:02:05 +0200
 De: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org
 À: proje...@global.libreoffice.org
 Cc: webs...@global.libreoffice.org
 Sujet: [libreoffice-website] Multilingual blog planet: bring up your
 feeds!


 Hello,

 We have made some good progress on the multilingual blog planet, you
 can see a demo and a summary here:
 https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/400

 What we need from you now is to collect your blogs/ and their rss feeds
 so that we can build the multilingual planet.

 Thanks!

 Charles.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Askbot localizations from the LibreOffice Pootle server

[Zeki Bildirici]

Hi Rimas,

Sory for the late reply.

Do you have our askbot translations(Turkish)? We had finished it but
now i see that transifex has an unfinished version there :(

Best regards,
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Documentation for l10n

[Zeki Bildirici]

11 Eki 2013 10:17 tarihinde Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com yazdı:

 Hi all,
Hi Sophie,

 I've written two guides to help new comers with their localization:

 - one about Pootle:
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/PootleGuide

 - one about UI and Help files contents (variables, xml) and some
 grep/sed commands
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UI_and_Help_files_Content_Guide
Thank you for these great guides. İ have written a guide in Turkish but it
became outdated as the pootle upgraded. With your guides the update  of
Turkish guide will be very easy :)

These will help us very much :)

Best regards
Zeki

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[libreoffice-l10n] Re: Excel and Calc Function Comparison List

[Zeki Bildirici]

Hi,

Finally i have completed the list. I've already sent it to Gerry who
helped me to review the first version. Also having your help will be
very good.

The list now contains the following sheets

- Excel vs Calc comparison list
- NEW FUNCTIONS OF CALC which is extracted by (thanks to) Eike from
the most recent build and are not present in the last published
appendix of calc guide
- CALC UNIQUE FUNCTIONS which are not available in Excel
- EXCEL UNIQUE FUNCTIONS which are not available in Calc (which can be
used to submit requests to bugzilla to have)

There may be similar functions like -i think- EFFECT and EFFECTIVE
neds to be spootted...


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Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Selection from in Pivot table - propose of changing English string

[Zeki Bildirici]

Hi,

You may use Pootle's comment box to notify future reviewers.

Btw, Pivot table is build by a selection right? Data source or source might
sound calling a database, which is another option and may confuse users.

We have translated it in Turkish something like 'Selected Area' instead of
'selection from'. But Selection is just fine too. Selection from is not
very bad i think.

Best regards
Zeki

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[libreoffice-l10n] Excel and Calc Function Comparison List

[Zeki Bildirici]

Hi,

As i was not able to find an Excel and Calc comparison list, i think that
it doesn't exits, and i've decided to make one.

I've used Excel 2013 Functions List (as Category) and LibreOffice 3.6.x
Guide(i cannot remember the version).

You may find it here on Google Drive:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtwDODVc-9BcdGhaQjNIZktqMC1WWG9INm5LQWw0VVEusp=sharing

The reason that i want this were actually localization  and standardize the
functions as Microsft Excel for migrations etc. Thus i've also created a Tr
localized comparison list which may help other locales to create one, here
it is:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtwDODVc-9BcdEdEcFEzWTVza0JvOUlsaFhfNm9JN2cusp=sharing

The lists has two sheets, first sheet is the main list compared to Excel,
and the second sheet is created by our guide. The Yellow highlighted cells
are empty functions, which may not exist or which i cannot find(new
functions etc) i highlighted some text with red, that means the equivalent
is not the same.

I see that nearly %99 of the functions match each other some statistical
and trigon. functions differ(aaa.ddd used .)

For localization we will arrange it similar to excel.

Anyway this list will be very useful for everyone i think -if it is
finished!


I ask you for help, if we can finalize it it can be a good appendix to
guides also a reference page on wiki.

@Andras,

You said 1st Spet is the deadline for 4.1.2 RC1, how much time do we have
to finish our translations for 4.1.2 release? Because there is serious work
to do for the functions on Pootle

- Checking the UI and also need to check the help will take time. If we had
our functions, definitions and help in separate po files, it can be easier
but now i think i will search one by one on Pootle.

---

Anyway, what do you think about finalizing this Comparison List? If you may
want to join i can share the the edit permission, or you may have the file
and i can join to the suitable platform.

Best regards,
Zeki

* Ms Excel Function List
http://office.microsoft.com/en-au/excel-help/excel-functions-by-category-HA102752955.aspx?CTT=1

I did not removed the hyperlinks of Excel functions because for new
functions we need to enter bug reports and it is easier to copy and paste
the definition of the function to the bug report

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Bugs to fix in translations

[Zeki Bildirici]

2013/8/26 Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com:
 Hi Zeki,
 Is it possible to have this fixes in upcoming release 4.1.1?

 I pushed the fixes just in case. I don't know about another release
 candidate (rc3) for 4.1.1. Your fixes will be in 4.1.2 for sure.

I wish there will be a RC3, because these are serious errors. And i
feel really sorry when Turkish users started to report issues on
functions. Especially, the corporate users.

On the other hand, talking about translations; functions are
translated in Turkish, because it is easier to learn their
functionality. But the bad thing is, Microsoft Turkish localizers are
not very successful in localizing the function names IMHO... Also
Microsoft has a strange policy to change function names in Excel
versions

The point we stand is interoperatability with MS Excel, because it is
widely used in business and best collobration with Microsoft Excel
users - like or not that's the fact

As per working for best interoperability, i used to work on a
spreadsheet; collected all available calc functions, definitions in
both English and Turkish, published in our wiki and it helped many of
our users. And i wanted to go further and make a cross table with
Excel functions in order to make a reference document and use it for
qa too. But could'nt have time to start anyway...

May be it can be useful by other locales -at least to collect the
functions... Here it is: http://db.tt/lpVxTgGH

I still search for a guide/complete list of translations of function
names English-Turkish.
(Is there a OpenFormula/Calc/Excel cross table?)

There are lists like
http://wwwhome.ewi.utwente.nl/~trieschn/excel/excel.html but they are
not complete or updated. For. ex. ISNA function not listed etc...

My idea to maintaining function names:

- Creating a new category in pootle (both in UI and Help) and moving
all functions to there (I think it is not possible or easy

and

- Creating a reference document, like my spreadsheet or
http://wwwhome.ewi.utwente.nl/~trieschn/excel/excel.html

having a reference document/web interface/page will be fine and make
easier to translate them and maintain them.

On users view, if we have a cross table of functions with Excel,
users(also localization teams) will be delighted to have such
document/web page.

Best regards,
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [The Document Foundation - Pootle server] Rauf KALES tarafından ileti

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23 Ağustos 2013 12:20 tarihinde  rka...@gmail.com yazdı:
 Merhaba
Merhaba,
 Libreoffice 4.1 kullanımında rastladığım bir hatayı paylaşmak istiyorum.
 Fonksiyonlarda yer alan 2 ad. ETOPLA mevcut bunlardan birisi çoklu etoplama 
 yapıyor. Excelde bu yüzden ÇOKETOPLA olarak adlandırılmış. Uygun görülecek 
 bir isimle değiştirilmesinde yarar var. Bu fonksiyonlarda düzgün çalışmıyor. 
 Tahminen bu iki isimin aynı olması bir hataya neden oluyor.

Bilgilendirme için teşekkürler, bu hatayı geçtiğimiz hafta farkettik
:( ve düzelttik. Bir sonraki ara sürümde düzelmiş olacak.

Diğer hata tespitlerimiz için forumunuzdan
http://forum.libreoffice.org.tr/ bize ulaşabilirsiniz.
.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Bugs to fix in translations

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2013/8/22 Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com:

 http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/l10n/error-report/report-4.0.txt
 http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/l10n/error-report/report-4.1.txt

Hi Andras,

Is it possible to have this fixes in upcoming release 4.1.1?

Best regards,
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Deadline for 4.1 translations

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9 Tem 2013 13:22 tarihinde Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com yazdı:

 Hi Zeki,

 On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Zeki Bildirici z...@ozgurlukicin.com
wrote:
  Hi,
Hi Andras,
 release plan[1]. Closing of RC3 is due to next Tuesday, so translation
 deadline is Sunday night/Monday morning at latest.

We are about to finish the translations but we still need time.

If it is possible, can you pull the translations on Monday morning, or
tonight after 12(Hungarian time)

Best regards,
Zeki

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[libreoffice-l10n] Deadline for 4.1 translations

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Hi,

What is the deadline for LibreOffice 4.1(release) translations?

*Sorry for asking if it is announced before.

Best regards
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] 16:10 or 16:9?

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2013/5/27 Olivier Hallot olivier.hal...@documentfoundation.org:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hi,

 Screen 16:10?  TV sets are today usually 16:9... no?

 Mystery?

Detailed discussion is here:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42986

16:10 is still on use and we had requests for that.

Regards,
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations of the help.libreoffice.org main page

[Zeki Bildirici]

Hi,

Here is the Turkish translation of the help mainpage:


{{Lang|{{ProductName}}Yardım'a Hoşgeldiniz!}}

div id=mf-page title=Welcome

[http://www.documentfoundation.org/download/ {{ProductName}}] yardım
uygulamasını kullandığınız için teşekkür ederiz.
{{ProductName}}yazılımıyla ilgili ne zaman yardıma ihtiyacınız olursa
F1 tuşuna basın, ardından bu siteye yönlendirileceksiniz. Alternatif
olarak ana dilinizde çevrimdışı gömülü yardım sürümünü sisteminize
yükleyebilirsiniz.


Eğer sadece yardım içeriğinde gezinmek istiyorsanız, daha kolay
gezinti için lütfen gezintinize başlamak için aşağıdaki giriş
noktalarını takip edin:


* [[Writer/Welcome_to_the_Writer_Help|{{ProductName}} Writer]] (kelime işlemci)

* [[Calc/Welcome_to_the_Calc_Help|{{ProductName}} Calc]] (hesap tabloları)

* [[Impress/Welcome_to_the_Impress_Help|{{ProductName}} Impress]] (sunumlar)

* [[Draw/Welcome_to_the_Draw_Help|{{ProductName}} Draw]] (çizim)

* [[Common/Database_1|{{ProductName}} Base]] (veritabanı işlemleri)

* [[Math/Welcome_to_the_Math_Help|{{ProductName}} Math]] (formül düzenleme)

* [[Basic/Basic_Help|{{ProductName}} Basic]] (Basic dilini kullanarak
programlama)


== Nasıl Katkı Verebilirim ==


Şu anda hala çevrimdışı yardım içeriğini çevrimiçi erişilebilir hale
dönüştürme araçları üzerinde iyileştirmeler yapmaktayız. Daha sonra
yardım içerik sayfalarını iyileştirmek için katılabileceksiniz.
Planlar [http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Wikihelp The
Document Foundation wiki] adresinde bulunmaktadır.


Wiki yazılımı ile ilgili bilgi için
[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents User's Guide] adresine
başvurun.

/div

Best regards,
Zeki



2013/4/11 Leif Lodahl leiflod...@gmail.com:
 This is the Danish translation of the welcome page:

 {{OrigLang|Velkommen til {{ProductName}} hjælpen!}}
 div id=mf-page title=Velkommen
 Tak fordi du bruger
 [http://www.documentfoundation.org/download/{{ProductName}}] hjælpen.
 Tryk på F1 når som helst du ønsker at få hjælp i
 {{ProductName}} programmet, og du vil automatisk blive dirigeret til dette
 sted. Som alternativ kan du installere off-line versionen af hjælpen på dit
 eget sprog.

 Hvis du ønsker at gennemse hjælpen, benyt da denne hovedmenu som indgang
 til at finde rundt:

 * [[Writer/Welcome_to_the_Writer_Help/da|{{ProductName}} Writer]]
 (tekstbehandling)
 * [[Calc/Welcome_to_the_Calc_Help/da|{{ProductName}} Calc]] (regneark)
 * [[Impress/Welcome_to_the_Impress_Help/da|{{ProductName}} Impress]]
 (præsentationer)
 * [[Draw/Welcome_to_the_Draw_Help/da|{{ProductName}} Draw]] (tegninger)
 * [[Common/Database_1/da|{{ProductName}} Base]] (database)
 * [[Math/Welcome_to_the_Math_Help/da|{{ProductName}} Math]]
 (formelredigering)
 * [[Basic/Basic_Help/da|{{ProductName}} Basic]] (programmering med Basic)

 == Hvordan kan du bidrage ==

 På nuværende tidspunkt er vi i gang med at finpudse konvertering fra
 off-line hjælpen. Senere kan du bidrage ved at forbedre hjælpesiderne.
 Disse planer er beskrevet i [
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Wikihelp The Document
 Foundation wiki] (Engelsk).

 Besøg [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents User's Guide] for
 oplysninger om at bruge wiki programmet.
 /div


 Cheers,
 Leif


 2013/1/15 Jan Holesovsky ke...@suse.cz

 Hi,

 I got a report that

 https://help.libreoffice.org/Main_Page

 is not translated - which is true.  In order to be translated to your
 language (one of CA, CS, DA, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, KO, NL, PL, PT,
 PT-BR, RU, SL, SV, VI, ZH-CN, ZH-TW), I'd like to ask you for the
 translation of its source, that is of

 https://help.libreoffice.org/WikiAction/edit/Main_Page

 If you can do it, please send it to me as a reply to this mail - I do
 not want to do Wikihelp editable, as all the pages except the Main_Page
 are still just generated from the LibreOffice Help, and it might lead to
 confusion.

 Thank you a lot,
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [The Document Foundation – Pootle server] message by Fitoschido

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16 Şub 2013 06:30 tarihinde fitosch...@gmail.com yazdı:

 Does Pootle have a way to track a certain user's submissions? Like a
bread crumb.

I was about to ask the same question :)

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site

[Zeki Bildirici]

2013/2/16 Martin Srebotnjak mi...@filmsi.net:
 Hi,
Hi Martin,
 the only survey that would answer how good or bad current help content
 and current organization of help topics as well as need for help by
 the users would be to add a survey system into the LO UI, that would
 report back to a server - where/when do users press F1, what topics
 they look for etc. Upon installation of LO user would be asked if she
 allows LO to report back anonymously about the use of help system.
 Hopefully that could be done in a simple way, I just hope that help
 content calls are small parts of data that could be easily tracked
 back to actual situations.
 Such a query should run for a few months and then the data should be
 mined through to get meaningful results.

I don't think this kind of tracking would give sufficient information.
First there is a technical restriction, this kind of tracking will not
include users which are staying the last stable version. And it is not
a community sense approach, the info will be data only and it will be
accumulated slowly and it will be very hard to comment of the output.
Also many people will ignore such notification. It is a machine way
and gives no space for the people's social behaviour and alternatives.

We should see the help channels together in a complex picture, They
must be taken complementary of each other

 Then one can start talking about other kinds of help etc.

As i said, we shouldn't separate them or put them in order. Help is
needed an it is served in multiple ways, the problem is awareness and
promoting people to use them in any way which suits their needs.

Starting with a simple and friendly survey will be a first step, also
we all know that LibreOffice has a restricted manpower and other
critical priorities. This kind of implementation may never come into
life, or may irritate people to collect their information.

I want to quote David Watson's words, sometimes you don't have to do
it right, you just need to do something, or an old Turkish word
Caravan train is merged on the road We cannot be perfect at the
beginning but we have to start.

I think such survey will also help to make people aware of
LibreOffice's help channels at least which can be considered as a big
gain imho.

Best regards,
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site

[Zeki Bildirici]

Hi,

After reading the replies, and remembering the previous arguments, i
want to point the important distinction between which is better
approach and which way we should improve approach.

Previously i said that we should change people's habits to get help,
and all stuff we had discussed are hypothetical base which we stand
on. But i am wondering that do we know people's choices, habits and
their experiences on reaching help info or their thoughts?

User surveys are best for in this conditions to get to know the users
behavior. I can give my example about a user survey about the Pardus
GNU/Linux which i've prepared and had very good results and feedback
from users. It was about the problems on getting help, inclusion on
contribution and their discouragements and plus and minus points.

Maybe we should issue a survey about the general help picture of
LibreOffice. English is not my native language thus it may have
considered a weird language. I've used kwiksurveys before, that was
very simple and has good options, if we have a better platform then it
will be better.

The basic questions can be as follows:



- Have you ever heard the following help channels of LibreOffice

--- ask.libreoffice.org portal
--- LibreOffice forums
--- LibreOffice user e-mail lists
--- #LibreOffice IRC channel
--- LibreOffice bundled/online help on help.libreoffice.org
--- LibreOffice user guides

- What will you do if you need help on LibreOffice
--- I search the info for the solution on internet
--- Ask to my friends who knows LibreOffice better
--- Ask for help on genereal (non-LibreOffice) forums
--- Ask for help on LibreOffice forums
--- Ask for help on LibreOffice user e-mail lists
--- Search on LibreOffice bundled help
--- Search on LibreOffice Users gide

- If you have used ask.libreoffice.org, could you please rate your
satisfaction (1-10, 1 is worse 10 is very satisfying)
.
(same question for other channels)

- Have you ever used LibreOffice bundled help, to learn new stuff and
improve your skills to use LibreOffice components?

- Have you ever used LibreOffice Guides, to learn new stuff and
improve your skills to use LibreOffice components?

- What do you feel during your search about getting help on LibreOffice
--- I have no idea how to get help for my problem
--- I am generally hopeless to find help, but i keep on trying
--- I rarely find help
--- I am very disappointed about all my this tries to get help
--- I can usually find help
--- I am a self learner and i love to find my own solutions, thus i am confident
--- I always find help from real life friends
--- I can find help from people on various internet platforms

- What do you think about bundled help (help.libreoffice.org)
-- I have no idea about it
-- Yes i know it but i never used it for help
-- It is crap, it gives me no help
-- Not very good but sometimes useful
-- Very good for self learning
-- It is nice, have plenty of information and info about LibreOffice
functions and tips
-- Very good and satisfying

- What do you think about LibreOffice Guides
-- I have no idea about it
-- Yes i know it but i never used one for help
-- It is crap, it gives me no help
-- Not good but sometimes useful
-- It is nice, have plenty of information and info about LibreOffice
functions and tips
-- Very good and satisfying
-- Teaches me all the stuff i need

- Have you ever tried to learn more about using LibreOffice components
and improve your skills by LibreOffice bundled help? If so, please
rate it (1-10, 1 is worse 10 is very satisfying)

- Have you ever tried to learn more about using LibreOffice components
and improve your skills by LibreOffice Guides? If so, please rate it
(1-10, 1 is worse 10 is very satisfying)


- What do you think about ask.libreoffice.org
-- I have no idea about it
-- Ooo, the ghost cowboy town you mean?
-- People are rude and they don't help me
-- Finding answers could be late but it works
-- Nice though
-- Very good, the first place i ask for help and get it
-- Thank god for it!
(irc and e-mail list questions may be added similarly)

- Did you ever got help from using social media (facebook, twitter,
linkedin etc)
-- Never tried, does it works?
-- No, i am not a geek nor my network!
-- Asked some but no one helped me
-- Yes i had some
-- My network is cool, and it is the fastest way to get help

- Have you ever used Microsoft Office bundled help or help portal, if
so, please share your thoughts
(free format answers)



If we could understand people's behavior better, we should focus on
the minuses and improve them.

But i should say that, getting help is about willing to get help and
about self learning and willing to learn more. Which is the key point
that we can promote it by our help resources.


Best regards,
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] Micro-Update published for Impress Remote

[Zeki Bildirici]

12 Şub 2013 02:00 tarihinde Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org
yazdı:

 Hi,

Hi
 just pushed version 1.0.2 to the Play Store, now including 72
 languages and a bugfix for

  * fdo#60487 - sdremote - load default preferences eg. volume control
switch.

Thanks. I've updated it . Btw you mean the Google play app page translation
or UI translation? UI is still English and no options for changing the ui
lang.

Best regards,
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Invalid XML errors in help translations

[Zeki Bildirici]

2013/2/11 Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com:
 Dear localizers,
Hi Andras,
 There is a very important check in Pootle: Invalid XML. When a
 translated segment contains invalid XML, that segment will be
 discarded, and en-US will be used instead. The error message however
 appears in the build log and makes noise.

I've just seen it, Invalid XML check is great. Previously we had to
find strings from your error logs, and fighting with XML check was
hard.

I have fixed one of this. But i cannot find the other string. The
search comes with no results again :(

The first string in a/m gerrit log. At the bottom page for Turkish
starting with: Automatically assigns consecutive numbers to the
footnotes... gaves n result in search.

:(

Also there was 5 invalid xml in help and 3(not sure) in ui.

Currently there are 2 invalid xml checks but i cannot see any wrong xml input.

- 
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/tr/libo_ui/translate.html#unit=32679620
- 
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/tr/libo_help/translate.html#unit=33060896

 https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/gitweb?p=translations.git;a=commitdiff;h=6ee465836d1fee4b4fbe714bde3b804cdda1b4ff

Best regards,
Zeki

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[libreoffice-l10n] Impress Remote translation update for UI and Reference docs for how to.

[Zeki Bildirici]

Hi,

We have translated the Google Play page, however the UI is in English. I am
not sure if we were late to translate the strings in pootle or the current
app is in English only at the moment.

Also we want to write an how to article for our local wiki to promote this
usefull app, is there a reference doc/link/guide which cam be used for it.

Best regards,
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Google Play Store - in need of translation

[Zeki Bildirici]

2013/2/8 Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org:
 Hi there,

 with our 4.0.0 release and the new Impress Remote for Android, TDF now
 has an official Google Play Store - first item there being:

  https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.libreoffice.impressremote

Hi,

Here is the Turkish translation:

---%---

LibreOffice için ücretsiz sunum uzaktan kumanda uygulamasını edinin!
LibreOffice Impress Uzaktan Kumanda slayt sunumlarınıza Android
cihazınız üzerinden -slayt ön izleme, konuşmacı notları ve daha
fazlasını da içerecek şekilde- etkileşlim kurabilmenizi sağlayan bir
uygulamadır.

LibreOffice, Windows, Macintosh ve GNU/Linux için güçlü ve ücretsiz
bir ofis yazılımıdır. LibreOffice, bir ofis yazılımı olmanın ötesinde
sunduğu bileşenlerle, tam anlamıyla bir kişisel üretkenlik takımıdır.
LibreOffice'in size sunduğu; Writer(Kelime İşlemci), Calc(Hesap
Tablosu), Impress(Sunum), Draw(Çizim), Math(Matematik) ve
Base(Veritabanı) uygulamalarının zengin özellikleriyle, bütün belge
oluşturma ve veri işleme ihtiyaçlarınızı karşılayabilirsiniz.
LibreOffice için destek ve belgelendirme ücretsiz olarak;  kullanıcı,
katkıcı ve geliştiricilerden oluşan  geniş, güçlü ve kararlı
topluluğumuz tarafından sizlere sunulmaktadır.

LibreOffice'i http://tr.libreoffice.org/download/ adresinden indirebilirsiniz.

LibreOffice ve LibreOffice Impress Uzaktan Kumanda, The Document
Foundation vakfı tarafından geliştirilen ve topluluk tarafından
yürütüp geliştirilen yazılımlardır.

Bu yazılım, özgür yazılımın ilkelerine inanmış ve emeğini dünya ile
kısıtlanmamış bir biçimde paylaşan sizin gibi kullanıcılar tarafından
geliştirilmiştir.

Bizimle http://tr.libreoffice.org/get-help/ adresinde buluşun!
---%--

Btw,

In first para what is the meaning of free?

And the download page may be confusing for people:

Download LibreOffice from http://www.libreoffice.org/download/ 

Most people will go and download the installer and think that they
will install an free office suit for their Android device.

Imho:
Download LibreOffice from http://www.libreoffice.org/download/  (For
Windows, Mac and GNU/Linux)

May be better.

Best regards,
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Some questions about the translations in LibreOffice 4.0

[Zeki Bildirici]

Serg, Martin,
Thank you
 Own Persona should be in cui/uiconfig/ui.po

Yes there it is. However Pootle cannot find it via search. Also,
clicking on to the ui.po returns empy.
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/tr/libo_ui/cui/uiconfig/

The content of this po file is reachable only by expanding the details
by clicking the arrow and then clicking all files.

 Template Manager opens if you select File  New  Templates

Thanks. I thought it will be somewhere in Format section, as it is a
basic tool about format and styles.

Btw,

In Options -  Personallizatiın, the section named Firefox Personas.
It does not make much sense imho, where it is Firefox Personas and
what is for LibreOffice? Personas for LibreOffice may make better
understanding.

Best regards,
Zeki

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[libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-website] Request for adding Turkish help content on http://help.libreoffice.org/

[Zeki Bildirici]

16 Oca 2013 18:33 tarihinde Zeki Bildirici z...@ozgurlukicin.com yazdı:


 20 Ara 2012 00:52 tarihinde Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com yazdı:
 
  Hi Zeki,
 
  On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Zeki Bildirici z...@ozgurlukicin.com
wrote:
   Hi,
  
   We have completed the Turkish translation of the help content(1) and i
   think it is time to add TR tothe online help site
   (http://help.libreoffice.org/).
   1 - https://translations.documentfoundation.org/tr/libo36x_help/
 
  On January 13 or 14, 2013 I will pull updated translations from
  Pootle, and push them to git for LibreOffice 3.6.5 RC1 release. After
  that Kendy can upload Turkish help translations to
  help.libreoffice.org.

 Hi,

 As the translation discussion is ongoing, i want to ping this exciting
issue :)

Ping :)

 Best regards,
 Zeki

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[libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-website] Request for adding Turkish help content on http://help.libreoffice.org/

[Zeki Bildirici]

2013/1/28 Jan Holesovsky ke...@suse.cz:
 Terribly sorry this takes so much time - we have migrated the wikihelp
 to another server, which is going to be upgraded to a faster one, so I
 do not want to start uploading new help now :-(

When will the upgrade be finished? If it will take too much time for
example months? If so we should consider alternative solutions,
Turkish Linux User Association provided us webspace which our local
forum and wiki works on, we may deploy a local help wiki i think. Or
is there a way to export the help content in HTML? We need searchable
help content, because users first search help in Google. A simple HTML
content will be useful too. This may help other locales which are not
fully completed their help content localization and excluded in
help.libreoffice.org

Best regards,
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Printing PO file without tag

[Zeki Bildirici]

I do not recommend this type of work. XML tags are not that hard and
translating it in pootle is easy.

Also re-placing the tags could be a nightmare, strings with wrong tags are
not implemented in translations.

Regards,
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[libreoffice-l10n] An idea about Online Help redirection

[Zeki Bildirici]

Hi,

I have an idea for the current online help redirection for locales
other than the ones in the current help
site:https://help.libreoffice.org/Main_Page

The current situation for the users(except the ones in helpwiki) makes
no sense, as it redirects directly to English content, and it does not
help to you, as you are probably not an English speaking person.

I am usimg LibreOffice in Turkish and this page makes no sense for me:
https://help.libreoffice.org/swriter/.uno:HelpIndex?Language=trSystem=UNIXVersion=3.6#bm_id3149178

Do you see any usefull information to get help? Or icon recognizing
for kids? Makes any sense for you, if you are a non-english spreaker?
(Also i dont think this welcome page helps to English speakers too; it
will be better that it has only says, welcome to our help content,
please use the search bar or here is a simple navigation tree for
you--which should be the Component and Component main index in embed
help-- What is help?)

Most locales have help packages, and lots of users are not aware to
get them. Common behaviour is to download only installer, also there
are tons of download sites which provide only the multilanguage
installer, not the helppack.

When you click to LibreOffice Help or F1, a dialog might appear and
ask the user to install the help content:


It seems that you have not installed the LibreOffice Help Pack, you may select

------
Install Helppack in your Language  Go to online help
(redirects to download page)
checkbox dont ask me again, go directly to online help
**

If the locale has not online help, it may show only installing
helppack, or ask for redirection to the English content anyway

***

I respect the %100 completion principle, but as a translator suffered
that, i must say, over %50 means a lot... Thousand words,
TWOHUNDREDTWENTYTHOUSAND words and may gather important help content
which are already translated. Not all the content are critical, some
thousand strings are more likely to be useless

We really worked hard to translate it, it is very difficult some
locales may never reach this level. It makes people cry when
translating(I even cried :P) But at least we finished it and
reached to %100

The current sitation is not helping to locales which are 50x99
percent translated. It is only punishment for them to see that wiki
page, and the current work done needs respect as it needs to be seen
by users.

What do you think about this idea?

Best regards,
Zeki

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[libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-website] Request for adding Turkish help content on http://help.libreoffice.org/

[Zeki Bildirici]

20 Ara 2012 00:52 tarihinde Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com yazdı:

 Hi Zeki,

 On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Zeki Bildirici z...@ozgurlukicin.com
wrote:
  Hi,
 
  We have completed the Turkish translation of the help content(1) and i
  think it is time to add TR tothe online help site
  (http://help.libreoffice.org/).
  1 - https://translations.documentfoundation.org/tr/libo36x_help/

 On January 13 or 14, 2013 I will pull updated translations from
 Pootle, and push them to git for LibreOffice 3.6.5 RC1 release. After
 that Kendy can upload Turkish help translations to
 help.libreoffice.org.

Hi,

As the translation discussion is ongoing, i want to ping this exciting
issue :)

Best regards,
Zeki

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[libreoffice-l10n] Request for adding Turkish help content on http://help.libreoffice.org/

[Zeki Bildirici]

Hi,

We have completed the Turkish translation of the help content(1) and i
think it is time to add TR tothe online help site
(http://help.libreoffice.org/).

Best regards,
Zeki

1 - https://translations.documentfoundation.org/tr/libo36x_help/

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[libreoffice-l10n] Latest 3.6.5. RC

[Zeki Bildirici]

Hello,

I need to test the Turkish localization of the 3.6.x. series, but i
think as for the Test Marathon Pre-Relases page only shows 4.0
release.
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/

How can i find the latest 3.6.5 RC installer and helppack for Turkish?

Best Regards,
Zeki

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[libreoffice-l10n] Calc Functions vs Excel Functions

[Zeki Bildirici]

Hello,

//Question for Documentation team:

I was translating Calc functions to Turkish, i was cross checking with
Microsoft Office then i had a suspect that YIELD and RECEIVED was
translated wrong in MS Office Turkish.

While searching the answer for the question Should it be the same,
even if it is wrong? i need to find a comparision list of Calc
Functions vs Excel functions but i  could'nt find.

Is there a comparision list and a migration guide that, this function
covers this function in Excel?

//Question for localization:

Is there a policiy or a suggestion about keeping the translations
parallel with MS Excel?

Best Regards,
Zeki

- Calc Function List in Appendix B of the Calc Guide (imported to
Turkish Wiki for work:
http://wiki.libreoffice.org.tr/Fonksiyonlar%C4%B1n_Tan%C4%B1m%C4%B1
- Short list of MS Excel Function Definitions:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/excel-help/excel-functions-by-category-HP005204211.aspx
- There is a similar page in help but categories shown in another
page: http://help.libreoffice.org/Calc/Functions_by_Category

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle is working again + a new check!

[Zeki Bildirici]

Hi Andras,

I have a string too:

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/tr/libo36x_help/translate.html#unit=24473556

In this string there should be no errors(in case my eyes see wrong).
However it gives an XML error, also this error is shown on the
error.log for tr which you have sent me.

I see a closing tag for switchinline in outdated German and
English(UK) translations? Could it be an error for English source
string?

Best regards,
Zeki

2012/12/5 Sérgio Marques smarque...@gmail.com:
 2012/12/5 Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com


 Nothing is wrong with this. One more false positive. You can remove
 the flag by clicking on it at the Failing checks: area, and you are
 done.


 Great. Thanks.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle is working again + a new check!

[Zeki Bildirici]

06 Ara 2012 09:26 tarihinde Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com yazdı:

 Hi Zeki,

 I don't see the XML error in this segment, probably you have corrected
 it meanwhile. But I don't see the +C in translation. The shortcut is
 Ctrl+Alt+C.
Oh!

I'm not still get used to the new interface. I've missed the horizontal
toolbar in the source text box.

Sorry for the inconvenience :)
Zeki

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[libreoffice-l10n] Turkish translations for LibreOffice are now 100% completed in both UI and Help

[Zeki Bildirici]

Dear localizers,

I am proud to announce we have just completed the Turkish translation
of LibreOffice 3.6 series in both UI and Help files.

When we have started the help was %38 level and it took nearly 6
months of hard work.

We have spotted some more tombalaks, and will uptade the related bug
for the translation errors of the English source.

And i want to spot two more issues,

* There are thousand of duplicate strings, and thousands of Icon
translations, i hope Pootle will have a great suggestion tool in
future :)

* I used English and German lang. for reference, the German
translation is very outdated.

...

Dear Andras,

Could you help us to uptade the LibO 4.0 translations as previously
you have said.

But first of all we request you a last error check for errors and
fatal errors, for pootle we have nearly 900 critical errors. Could you
do it for us :)

After fixing them, it will be better to update 4.0 translations.

Best regards,
Zeki

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[libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] more currencies for donations

[Zeki Bildirici]

25 Eyl 2012 11:30 tarihinde Florian Effenberger 
flo...@documentfoundation.org yazdı:

 Hello,

Hi Florian,

I've misse the recent updates about the donation page.

Having credit card option is great, as the other methods are:
* wire transfer - expensive and requires legal stuff
* Paypal - increasing number of users but, registration and bank side
applications etc.

I think the easiest way to donate from Turkey is Credit card. And i was
waiting that, though i have donated some on monday :)

Well having more currencies great, but i wish Turkish Lira will be in this
list.

After debitting in foreign currencies, banks apply buy/sale transactions
and the amount in local currency is calculated by using a higher rate as
you know. If it is possible adding  TRY - Turkish lira will be good.

Also, -i've missed the thread as i mentioned above- i would like to ask
about the localization of the Donate page. Currently it is only available
in German besides English.

We would be happy to translate it to Turkish and start our campaign to get
donations from Turkey.

Regards,
Zeki

Sent from my mobile. Sorry for the mistypings.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translation bugs to fix in 3.6.2 rc1

[Zeki Bildirici]

2012/9/10 Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com:
 Hi,

Hi Andras,

 Please find the error logs at the usual place:
 http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/l10n/errorlog/

Thanks for your notification.

 However, our process has changed a bit. I will not correct fatal help
 translation errors in git myself any more. A new piece of code has
 been developed, that checks for such errors build time before merge,
 and will not merge strings with errors. See
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52246.

Andras, as i previously said that we are tagging the original strings
with the comment tombalak
http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/msg04672.html

As you said that, the strings with errors will not be merged, i think
it is a good time to share the total list of tomabalaks gathered until
now.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38862200/Tombalaks.ods

Here is the ODS spreadsheet. There are 43 tombalaks noticed bu Turkish
translation team. Most of them are about the missing or wrong emph
tags. I tried to note the reason and the component.

Should i fill a bug report? Or is it fine here?

 So, if you wrote for example emph/ instead of /emph, did not close
 a tag, etc., that segment would be rejected, and English original
 would be used in translation. I'll work on translator-friendly error
 reports later. For now, please check Pootle tests, at least xmltags
 when you translate help.

Will work on it.

Regards,
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New keyboard shortcuts: Ctrl+[ and ]

[Zeki Bildirici]

2012/7/29 Jon Lachmann j...@lachmann.nu:
 The thing I am thinking of is other languages with keyboards short of the [ 
 and ] keys. All translators should check their keyboard layout to see if it 
 is possible to enter the Ctrl+[ and Ctrl+] combinations, otherwise it must be 
 added to the source. The swedish shortcuts added are Ctrl+8 and Ctrl+9 (like 
 in swedish msword).

Hi,

It is impossible to use Ctrl+[ and Ctrl+]  in Turkish keyboard
layout.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#Turkish_.28Q-keyboard.29
because [ and ] are already key combinations as the same reason
Michael Bauer said above.

Although i've looked to MS Office, their said combination for Turkish

CTRL+Shift+ and CTRL+Shift+

doesn't work on MS Office 2007 and 2010 :)  The reason that  and 
are usually made by ccombinations.

However, it works on Office 2013 as
 [Alt+Ctrl+Shift+1]
and
 [Alt+Ctrl+Shift+]
both needs 4 fingers at once and makes no sense.

Regards,
Zeki

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[libreoffice-l10n] Localization Default Biblio Table

[Zeki Bildirici]

Hello,


The default Biblio table comes with English coloumns[1] and maybe it
will be good to have the opportunity to localize this coloumn names.

(By the way, -IMHO-, the bibliography function and inserting
references with LibreOffice is some kind of torture. I wrote my thesis
on LibreOffice with the help of Zotero plug-in most people prefers it
instead of the bundled tools. Hope to have something as easy as Zotero
bundled)

Regards,
Zeki

http://f1207.hizliresim.com/z/m/9vsgy.jpg

PS: The fields for Table and Search Key have not enough place in the UI.

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[libreoffice-l10n] About the Outdated Help Content

[Zeki Bildirici]

Hello,

3 Days ago I asked a question on the documentation list. Besides the
question Tom Davies said that the help content is quite outdated,
while working on the translation of the content i made a suggestion
for marking the outdated content with a unique comment word, which we
can track and report the outdated content.

I qouote the msg here:
http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/msg06389.html
-
2012/6/17 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk

 Hi :)
 The embedded help in English is a bit old and out-of-date now.  Is your
 team checking it works and fixing it as they translate?  If so then it would
 be fantastic if we could translate it back into English!

Actually, we dont checkreport them as we considered them as must be
recent till now. And the loacalizers are not regular users of all the
applications.

We face them sometimes.
eg:https://translations.documentfoundation.org/tr/libo_help/translate.html?unit=14569917

Well, i think there might be a good feedback option for the QA of the
original strings. Pootle has a comment box, which we can add a
unique word to the strings which we may think:

- Outdated,
- Bad wording
- Vanished feature etc.

For exampe a unique word of comment as tombalak, will work sugh a
tag, and it will be possible to track this strings and report them.

What's your opinion?
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What do you think about this idea?

Regards,
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translation errors before 3.6.0 beta2

[Zeki Bildirici]

2012/6/17 Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com:
 Hi,
Hi Andras,

 I'd like to update translations in git tomorrow for the 3.6.0 beta2
 release. Please find the error logs at
 http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/l10n/errorlog/ Please correct errors in
 Pootle, especially the fatal errors.


All errors for tr are fixed.

Thanks.

Best regards,
Zeki

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[libreoffice-l10n] Strings with hassuggestion tags

[Zeki Bildirici]

Hello,

When reviewing the Turkish translations for LibreOffice Help 3.6(and
3.5), in the review tab shows hassuggestion
508 strings (1%) failed However, when  click to the link, Pootle
says: No matching strings to review.
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/tr/libo_help/review.html

After accepting the suggestion, does the sign of the tag remains or is it a bug?


Btw, on project home screen, while pointing the cursor over the
untranslated lines, the notice shows the untranslated words and the
words which needs review.
http://e1206.hizliresim.com/y/j/80yqm.jpg
This review means the fuzzy translations or more?

Regards,
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Strings with hassuggestion tags

[Zeki Bildirici]

2012/6/16 Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com:
 On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 7:17 AM, Zeki Bildirici z...@ozgurlukicin.com wrote:
 Hello,

 When reviewing the Turkish translations for LibreOffice Help 3.6(and
 3.5), in the review tab shows hassuggestion
 508 strings (1%) failed However, when  click to the link, Pootle
 says: No matching strings to review.
 https://translations.documentfoundation.org/tr/libo_help/review.html

 After accepting the suggestion, does the sign of the tag remains or is it a 
 bug?

 I was able to see two strings that had suggestions, (not 508)

Yes, they were recent suggestions made after my e-mail.


 In that context,  X words need review means that there are that many
 words in untranslated strings plus fuzzy strings, when there are
 no untranslated or fuzzy strings that will say 'Complete.

Thanks.

Best regards,
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] REMINDER: 3.6 feature freeze and 3.6.0-beta1 release

[Zeki Bildirici]

Hi,

I think LibreOffice 3.6.x project on Pootle will be created over the
current translations of the 3.5.x series. If so, will it include the
suggesstions and comments from the current translations?

And one more thing, after creating 3.6.x branch there will be no sync
from 3.5.x series right?

Best regards,
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] REMINDER: 3.6 feature freeze and 3.6.0-beta1 release

[Zeki Bildirici]

2012/6/4 Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com:
 I'd love to migrate suggestions and comments but I don't know how to do
 that. If you know, please send me a link to instructions.

That's bad news :) We have over 3.000 words in the needs review cat.
How much time do we have?

Btw, i dont know is it the right topic, but the hassugesstion tag
browsing doesn't work for me anymore:
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/tr/libo35x_help/review.html

 Yes, it is up to translators to keep translations in sync across versions
 (in Pootle).

We will do our best, i hope :)

Regards,
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Online update service + localized download URLs

[Zeki Bildirici]

2 Ocak 2012 23:42 tarihinde Jan Holesovsky ke...@suse.cz yazdı:
 Hi,
Hi,
Turkish download links are:

Language: tr
Download page: http://tr.libreoffice.org/download/
Pre-release download page: http://tr.libreoffice.org/download/test-surumleri/

Regards,
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Individual User Statistics for Pootle

[Zeki Bildirici]

20 Mart 2012 06:23 tarihinde Hossein Noorikhah hossein...@gmail.com yazdı:
 Use any username instead of hossein in url and you will see the
 detailed statistics of that user's contributions. Sadly, Pootle does
 not create hyperlinks when showin usernames.

Thank you. As i can see the members of language project from the
rights page. This will be usefull.

Regards,
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Bugs in LibreOffice 3.5.2 rc1 translations

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19 Mar 2012 09:57 tarihinde Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com yazdı:

 Hi,

Hi Andras,

 Languages with fatal errors: cs, de, sk, tr.

Turkish errors are all fixed.

Thank you for your efforts :)

Regards,
Zeki

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[libreoffice-l10n] Individual User Statistics for Pootle

[Zeki Bildirici]

Hi,

Is there an option for Pootle to see individual statistics of team
members(for example; submissions, suggestions etc). Pootle only shows
the top 5 user data for each section.

It will be nice to see this data by each member individually. This
will help to lead the local teams; motivate users, finding inactive
members and contacting them to suggest being more active on
translations etc.

Regards,
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Website translation

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Hello,

Addin tr-TR will be good for us, we have a Turkish locale site at:
http://tr.libreoffice.org/

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Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Website translation

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21 Ocak 2012 23:00 tarihinde Rimas Kudelis r...@akl.lt yazdı:
 2012.01.21 21:24, Michael Bauer rašė:

 21/01/2012 19:11, sgrìobh Zeki Bildirici:

 Addin tr-TR will be good for us, we have a Turkish locale site at:
 http://tr.libreoffice.org/


 Not that it matters, really, but I notice that the link to gd isn't on the
 Turkish links page - shouldn't those be automated the same way the
 downloads are to save locales to check for random new languages?


 I guess tr didn't choose Subsiteslist Page as the page type, or didn't add
 the $SubsiteList variable to its contents. I'd say we have quite a few not
 really documented tips  tricks when it comes down to website
 administration. Some find those out by inspecting existing code, some others
 probably just copy-paste generated code, which becomes outdated sooner or
 later.

 We should really document stuff better, and everyone can help with that. ;)
 But until it's done, one possibility is to look at how an appropriate page
 is implemented in the Main website, which you should be able to choose in
 Silverstripe's admin interface (there's a drop-down at the top-right).

 Hope this helps,

 Rimas

Hi,

@Michael, i think you are talking about the International Sites
section of tr. gd.libreoffice.org is not there, as you know, i
manually edited that page and it is already outdated.

@Rimas, i will look for it if you provide me a how to page or tips.
But thats my shame still not concantrating on the website mailinin
lists.

And thanks for adding tr translation project.

Regards,
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] Locale data date acceptance patterns, localizers HEADS UP please :)

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12 Ocak 2012 15:43 tarihinde Eike Rathke er...@redhat.com yazdı:
 Hi,
 Just mail me the pattern(s) for your locale, I'll add it then.

Hi,

D.M
D/M
D-M
should be all fine for tr-TR (Turkish). The common seperator is .
but there is not a rule for it so any seperator can be used. I checked
MS Excel and all the above are completed fine.

Regards,
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] From wich print

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07 Ara 2011 01:22 tarihinde Lior Kaplan kaplanl...@gmail.com yazdı:

Hi Lior,

 Well, the from which text is a change I did... the previous text was
 impossible to translate. Screen shot attached.

I think this e-mail list removes attachments. Could you plwase upload it
somewhere on the int(i.e imageshack etc.)

Best regards,
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] From wich print

[Zeki Bildirici]

 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/249/calcprint.png/

Thank you Lior.

Ohh.. I thought it was in some other dialog. Sorry for that. I think I
should install an English version of LibreOffice somewhere :)

Btw, From which print is translated to Turkish as Yazdır, which is
the word Print.

I think Print or Range is the best suit for it cos, when we look at the dialog:

Print - All Pages  or Print - Pages 3-5
Range- All Pages or Range - Pages 3-5

Or the same as MS Excel as Print Range

In MS Excel, the fields are reverse:

http://www.java2s.com/Tutorial/Microsoft-Office-Excel-2007Images/Preview_Worksheet_From_Print_Dialog_Box___In_Print_Dialog_Box_Click_Preview.PNG

Print range -From which print
Print What - No title, but the sections title Range and copies
seems like the title of the first three options. Maybe it should be
better to move to title Range and copies  to the center.

Sorry for my confusion :)

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] From wich print

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Hi,

 You can select, if Calc should print all sheets, selected sheets of
 selected cells. Then you can select what to print from the above
 selected range. For example you want to print the pages 2-3 of the
 selected sheet, this is where you can set it.


 And a screen shot to demonstrate these options.

A screenshot will be good, if available :)

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] l10n bugs to fix for LibreOffice 3.4.4

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2011/10/7 Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com:
 Hi,

Hi Andras,

 Fatal errors:
 ar as bg da de is it mk nl pl pt sk tg tr zh-TW
 I corrected them in git as I could, but please correct them in Pootle, too.

 Non-fatal errors:
 ar as bg bn bs cs da de dgo eo es is it ja kn mk ne nl nn om pl pt rw
 sa-IN sd sk sv sw-TZ tg tr zh-TW

 Log files (from all tools) and error files (from gsicheck tool):
 http://ftp.fsf.hu/LibreOffice/3.4.4-rc1-l10nbugs/

Turkish (tr) errors and fatal errors are fixed i think :)

Best regards,
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations from Pootle pushed to git (for 3.4 rc2), bugs to fix

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Hi Andras,

Thanks to Ayhan he fixed the fatal errors and other errors.

 On Sunday I exported updated po files from Pootle and I pushed them to
 git to the translations module. LibreOffice 3.4 rc2 will contain
 these translation updates. According to the plan rc2 will be 3.4.0
 final, if all go well. So the next translation update will be for 3.4.1.
 I'll do the push next time when a release (3.4.1 rc) is coming.

I understand that the this was the last push befor 3.4 stable relase,
so rc2 translations will be in 3.4?
However, we just managed to achieve %100 percent on 3.4 UI
translations today :( . Is it possible to update Turkish UI files.
It is very important for our campaign to present LibreOffice as it has
a %100 Turkish User Interface.

We gathered a good localization team and thing are getting quite well.
 Turkish translations in Help files are not very good and we have lots
of work to do. We hope to achieve this ratios in Help files as soon as
possible.

Best regards,
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations from Pootle pushed to git (for 3.4 beta3), bugs to fix

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Bugs in Turkish are -now- fixed in 3.4 translations.

Regards,
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations from Pootle pushed to git (for 3.4 rc1), bugs to fix

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H, Andras,

2011/5/2 Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com:
 Log files (from all tools) and error files (from gsicheck tool):
 http://ftp.fsf.hu/LibreOffice/3.4-rc1-l10nbugs/

Bugs in Turkis are all fixed i think.
http://ftp.fsf.hu/LibreOffice/3.4-rc1-l10nbugs/tr.log

Best regards,
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations from Pootle pushed to git (for 3.4 beta3), bugs to fix

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2011/4/25 Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com:


 Please note, however, that there are still bugs in your translations
 that need to be fixed ASAP.

 Locales with bugs:
 as, be, bg, bn, bo, brx, bs, ca-XV, ca, cy, de, dgo, el, eo, et, fa, gl,
 gu, he, hi, hr, id, ka, kk, kn, kok, ks, ku, lt, mai, mk, ml, mn, mni,
 mr, my, nb, ne, nn, nr, nso, oc, om, or, pl, pt-BR, pt, ro, ru, rw,
 sa-IN, sat, sd, sh, sk, sq, sr, st, sv, ta, te, tg, tn, tr, ts, ug, uk,
 uz, vi, zh-CN

 Log files (from all tools) and error files (from gsicheck tool):
 http://ftp.fsf.hu/LibreOffice/3.4-beta3-l10nbugs/

Hi Andras,

I have a problem about this bugs for Turkish language.

I.e Days and Day has the same translation; Gün
1 Gün, 3 Gün. 3 is in plural in its nature so there is no need for an
plurality suffix (ler, ie 3 Günler makes no sense)

Entry double for LANG=tr in file tr.sdf
formula source\core\resource\core_resource.src  0   string  
RID_STRLIST_FUNCTION_NAMES  SC_OPCODE_GET_DAY   0   
tr  GÜN 2002-02-02
02:02:02
formula source\core\resource\core_resource.src  0   string  
RID_STRLIST_FUNCTION_NAMES  SC_OPCODE_GET_DIFF_DATE 0   
tr  GÜN 2002-02-02
02:02:02
Entry double for LANG=tr in file tr.sdf
sw  source\ui\utlui\poolfmt.src 0   string  
STR_POOLCOLL_HEADLINE_BASE  0   tr  Başlık  
2002-02-02
02:02:02
sw  source\ui\utlui\poolfmt.src 0   string  STR_POOLCOLL_LABEL  
0   tr  Başlık  
2002-02-02
02:02:02
Entry double for LANG=tr in file tr.sdf
sw  source\ui\utlui\poolfmt.src 0   string  
STR_POOLCOLL_HEADLINE_BASE  0   tr  Başlık  
2002-02-02
02:02:02
sw  source\ui\utlui\poolfmt.src 0   string  STR_POOLCOLL_DOC_TITEL  
0   tr  Başlık  
2002-02-02
02:02:02

What do you suggest ?

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