[lace] bobbin turning and pins

2003-08-26 Thread Lorelei Halley
Robin
I think you are right.  I've turned a few hundred bobbins, mostly for my own
use or for gifts.  And I have had problems with Honiton style bobbin necks
breaking, and even some larger ones.  The solution that works is not to
insert a pin, but to stop turning when you reach the neck diameter that you
think puts the bobbin in danger.  At that point change from a turning chisel
to sand paper, with the machine running.  The machine is still doing all the
work.  All you have to do is gently slide the sandpaper along the line of
the neck (having first cut the sandpaper into strips just about the same
length as the neck.  Start with medium coarse sandpaper.  Vacuum the dust,
switch to the next finest grade, all the say down to 200 or even 400 grit.
If the shape is simple you can do the final sanding of the whole bobbin this
way.  When it is smooth enough, take it off the lathe and use a saw tool on
the end of a flexible shaft machine to cut off the little extensions at the
top and bottom of the bobbin which held it in the machine.

This is the method I've used to prevent breakage.  In my experience any
bobbin heck delicate enough to break while being turned will absolutely for
sure break if you try to either ram a pin down the neck with brute force, or
try to drill a hole inside it.

Lorelei

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[lace] Bobbbin from York

2003-08-26 Thread Ken and Barbara Saltern
About 5 years ago I too was in York and found the shop that has been talked
about in the Shambles. There were bobbins in the window and we went in and
asked about them and out came the box from under the counter. (It seemed that
in every shop that was where they were stored- you had to ask for them). That
was where I bought my first 2 bone bobbins. We were on a tour of the UK and as
the rest of the people on our bus bought big items and then wondered how they
would fit them in their suitcases, I continued to buy bobbins and had no
trouble packing them to come home.
Barbara
Nazareth PA USA where it is getting warm again ( just in time for school)

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[lace] Re: Conservation - Ironing Linens

2003-08-26 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Monday, Aug 25, 2003, at 11:34 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It is natural to think you should iron linens before putting them into
storage. [...]

However, consider this labor-saving information...

I was taught in conservation classes that although it is imperative to 
wash
linens immedately after use (remember white wine and milk spills do 
not show,
but develop into brown stains later) -- that unless you have a 
museum-quality
storage system of rollers onto which you can put your linens or a way 
to store
linens flat without folds -- it is best to put the linens away without
pressing or ironing.
VBG I never took any conservation classes, but my innate laziness 
with common sense and experience following closely, taught me the same 
lesson :) *Not only*, may you have to touch up your linens when 
you're ready to use them after a long rest; you may have to 
re-launder and re-press them, because ironed stuff (tablecloths, 
napkins, etc), if stored folded, tends to develop yellow along the 
creases. For the birds... g

While I'm less concerned about the potential damage to threads than 
Jeri is (am not a collector; don't have anything that's museum quality 
and worth babying), I resent any time spent on household chores, since 
it's always taken away from lacemaking (or lace discussing, or lace 
designing)... So. If it's really nice, I wash it, fold it, but stuff 
either tissue paper or cotton fabric between the layers, to make the 
folds rounder. Iron it when it's needed (usually once or twice a year, 
at most). If it's nothing special, I wash it, and don't worry about 
it; leave it in the one day basket. When the day comes that I do need 
it, I re-wash it, and *then* iron  :)

There! I've admitted to my shortcomings it in public...  Dare say it'll 
curl Jeri's hair in horror, but I find it amusing that being lazy and 
being trained can produce similiar end-results... :)

Yours, about to ditch a couple of pairs of DH's trousers. One's white, 
one light blue, and both develop a yellow crease without ever being 
ironed -- just by being hung for more than a couple of months on the 
same clothes-hanger. So, back they're sent to the laundry room, and he 
ends up never (or almost never) wearing them... Surely, he doesn't need 
them? g

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Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
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[lace] query that's driving me nuts!

2003-08-26 Thread Jo Christodoulides
Dear folks,
Please tell me what 'DH' stands for!!  I understand it means your 'otherhalf' but 
what's the DH stand for?  It's driving me nuts trying to figure it out.  'Dotty 
Husband'? 'Darling Husband'?  
Many thanks!
Jo in sunny Cyprus




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Re: [lace] query that's driving me nuts!

2003-08-26 Thread Ruth Budge
Well, I've always assumed it stood for Dear Husband - but when I think about
it, there are lots of other possibilities:  Dratted Husband?;  Drivelling
Husband?;  Delectable Husband?;  Dangerous Husband?;.the list seems to
grow the more I think about it!!!

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)

Jo Christodoulides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Dear folks,
Please tell me what 'DH' stands for!! I understand it means your 'otherhalf'
but what's the DH stand for? It's driving me nuts trying to figure it out.
'Dotty Husband'? 'Darling Husband'? 
Many thanks!
Jo in sunny Cyprus



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[lace] York bobbins

2003-08-26 Thread Neil Keats
In 1990 my daughter bought me three bobbins while visiting York in England and was told
that the maker was an 80 year old man.  I would like to know the name of the maker if
anyone can help.  There can't have been many bobbin turners fitting that description.  
One
of the bobbins was made from bog oak.  Your help will be appreciated.
Neil Keats in Newcastle, Australia at the mouth of the Hunter River, the home of the
fabulous Hunter Shiraz and Semillon wines.

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[lace] Photo gallery

2003-08-26 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I've just added three pictures to the arachne Webshots community gallery.  
They are the three pieces of lace I made for each DD 's wedding - more on 
my own website if you are really interested!
Thank you Avital (?) for setting it up.
Look at  http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003-date

Brenda

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Re: [lace] Photo gallery

2003-08-26 Thread Avital Pinnick
Brenda wrote:
 I've just added three pictures to the arachne Webshots community gallery.  

Very nice! Your daughters must have had long engagements, to enable you to make all 
that lace. ;-)

 Thank you Avital (?) for setting it up.
 Look at  http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003-date

You're welcome. It really took only two minutes. We should have done it ages ago, but 
I didn't think of it until Ann-Marie suggested Webshots.

I've got a couple questions about other photos in the gallery. 

Patty, is your Painted Beds bookmark really painted? 

Ilske, how long did it take you to make the Vologda collar? What kind of pillow did 
you use?

Best wishes,

Avital

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Re: [lace] Photo gallery

2003-08-26 Thread Ilske und Peter Thomsen
Dear Avital,
 
 Ilske, how long did it take you to make the Vologda collar? What kind of
 pillow did you use?
On this collar, it is in two parts, I worked on them together 80 hours
without pulling the thread on the bobbins and pricking. At that time I had
only two flat pillows from about 60 cm in diameter, so I used one of them
and put the pricking once or twice away. Today I would take a piece of
styrodur big enough to have the pricking on it and enough space around that
I could work comfotable.
I used Bockens linnen 35/2 in light and dark violet and Mez-Sticktwist
4-fach for the decoration.
I am designing since years another one but there are so many other ideas, I
am afraid this one will never be born.
Greetings
Ilske

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Re: [lace] lace frog and Paris before Binche? (long)

2003-08-26 Thread Clay Blackwell
Hi Eva -

 Does one have to master a certain kind of lace before
beeing allowed to
 start with another?
 There was the question of Paris before Binche some
digests ago.

You are right that there are teachers who have very strong
feelings about what order you should work your lace.  And,
in my experience, most teachers of Binche these days are
Europeans, and they prefer that you have a good foundation
in Flanders ground.  Knowing kat stitch or Paris Ground is
also a help.

But the fact is, working a few samples of the grounds in
question in order to be comfortable with how they work is
sufficient for many people.  I began Binche this summer.  I
had worked in Flanders, but without a teacher...  I used
Mary Niven's book, and the book by Rombach-de Kieivid and
taught myself.  Then, again using a book (Michael Giusiana's
first book...) I began working with snowflakes in samples.
By the time I took a class, I was comfortable enough with
the patterns to put things together.

One word of caution:  the advantage of having a teacher as
you learn is that you develop good skills every step of the
way.  When you start off with a book, it's possible to
miss the sentence that says, do it this way, and you
might end up with a habit which is not good, and which is
hard to break.  Your lace might look decent enough that
you - and your teacher - don't realize the problem.  I've
continued to work on my Binche, and in reading other books
have discovered flaws in the way I work.  It's harder to
change a habit than it is to build a good one from the
beginning!

Clay

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RE: [lace] lace frog and Paris before Binche? (very long)

2003-08-26 Thread Panza, Robin
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Does one have to master a certain kind of lace before beeing allowed to
start with another?  There was the question of Paris before Binche some
digests ago.

That is the basic question, and there are two aspects to the answer.

The first aspect has to do with process people versus product people.
Some people are product-oriented.  They care about mastering a technique in
order to produce the best possible X.  Anything that does not lead to a
complete X is not of interest to them.  They do not understand trying a
technique if it won't lead to a finished object.  They do not enjoy solving
puzzles, like crossword puzzles, because all you have at the end is a
filled-in puzzle.  Nothing useful.  My father, for example, made jewelry
(and cabinetry before that) until all family members had something from him.
Then there wasn't any reason for him to make more jewelry or furniture.
There was no need for any finished product, so he had no interest in
pursuing the activity.  

I, on the other hand, am a process-oriented person.  I do my hobbies because
I love the doing.  I don't care if I finish (unless an item is meant for a
present).  In lacemaking, I love figuring out how a piece is constructed.
It's like a puzzle to be solved, and I don't need to make a useable length
in order to solve the puzzle.  My father is just as good at solving problems
as I am, but has no interest in doing something just to solve the puzzle.
My friends have crowned me Queen of the Unfinished Projects (I have the
T-shirt to prove it!), because I flit from craft to craft, from technique to
technique.

The other aspect of this question is mastery versus exploration.  Some
people approach something like lacemaking from the point of view of becoming
a master at it.  They will pick a style and devote themselves to that style.
These people tend to take a book and work every (or most) patterns from the
beginning (no matter how boring and ugly) to the end.  Only then do they
feel they've learned that style.  To become a master, one should serve an
apprenticeship.  You should work a long time at small, simple jobs before
you are good enough to tackle the fun stuff.  *Extreme* members of this
view become lace police, the ones who scold, you can't use a Cluny trail
crossing in that Beds pattern, or, you aren't good enough to take a
workshop yet, or, you can't do this Milanese pattern unless you've done at
least one yard of each of the braids.

I am an explorer, with no interest in mastery.  For people like me, a
workshop or a new book is for exposure to new ideas and new techniques.  I
may or may not choose to pursue that subject any further, once I've had the
exposure.  I have enough ability and talent to grasp the essentials from
working one of the middle patterns in the book--I don't need to start with
pattern 1--so why should I waste all that time working dull patterns before
tackling something inspiring?  I will never be a Master at a technique, but
I have no interest in being important.  I make lace to *learn*, not to be an
expert.  Again, it's the process (learning) that interests me, not the
product (being an acknowledged Master).

Many (NOT all) product people and many (NOT all) who do things to become
masters do not understand process people and explorers.  They look down
their noses at them, because process people may not complete the project and
explorers don't ever become masters.  This is the part *I* don't understand.
Process people and explorers generally understand the mentality of the
others but choose to go their own way.  Why can't the others understand
them?

I was very lucky.  The lace teacher I found nurtured us in whatever
direction we wanted to go.  Even the first lesson was a choice of 3 patterns
(all three were all-CTCT, but in different patterns).  The second lesson was
a sampler (torchon ground with an assortment of diamonds of CT, CTC, CTCT,
etc).  After that, she brought in many designs of varying styles and varying
difficulty, and we each chose what appealed to us.  She lost one student who
needed a more structured lesson plan, but her style was perfect for me.

just my 15 cents (much too long to be just 2 cents),
Robin P.
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http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com 

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[lace] Book search

2003-08-26 Thread The Hildebrand Clan
I have been corresponding with Brian in Australia.  He has shown interest 
in a box of antique bobbins I have owned for years.  There are 71 of my 
bobbins on display at

 http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/hildbrnd/lace/ 

for those of you interested in seeing these bobbins.  My daughter has set 
up the web site she is a computer science student hare at the university.

Lengthy intro but I would be interested in finding a copy of 
Success to the lace pillow by Christine and David Springett as 
recommended by Brian.

Thank-you in advance to anyone who knows of a copy for sale. I am in 
Canada so that would be preferable but not necessary.

Johanna

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[lace] Miss Channer's Mat

2003-08-26 Thread FRM Haddad
Lately we've heard from several who are about to make Miss Channer's Mat.
From where is the pattern available? I've been given to understand that it
is no longer in print.  My lace goal is to one day be able to make the
above-mentioned mat, although at the rate I'm going, it would take several
lifetimes to get good enough! But you gotta have a dream!

Rose-Marie
Abbotsford, BC, Canada
where we might actually get some rain!

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Re: [lace] Miss Channer's Mat

2003-08-26 Thread Esther Perry
Lately we've heard from several who are about to make Miss Channer's Mat.
From where is the pattern available? I've been given to understand that it
is no longer in print.  My lace goal is to one day be able to make the
above-mentioned mat, although at the rate I'm going, it would take several
lifetimes to get good enough! But you gotta have a dream!
Yes, ditto here.
Does anyone know, who owns/holds the copyright to the pattern?
Or is it still under copyright?
If still under copyright, I wonder if the holder might be persuaded to
make copies as needed. With today's technology, it is possible to
make few or even one copy at a time, on good quality paper for
little money.
Just a thought...
Greetings from Beautiful British Columbia
Esther Perry
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Re: [lace] Miss Channer's Mat

2003-08-26 Thread WaltonVS
Hi, the pattern and copy right is held by a publishing company. Ruth Bean. 
they are not willing at the moment to publish it due, I understand, to the high 
costs. It is a very intricate pattern to print and has to be done properly. 
They do know that suppliers like me are willing to stock them but they say they 
would cost too much.

 KEEP LACING, VIVIENNE, BIGGINS

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Re: [lace] Miss Channer's Mat

2003-08-26 Thread Barron
speaking of Miss Channer's Mat - did the lucky ebay bidder in the USA -
sorry I can't remember who it was - ever recieve the mat and if she did is
she happy with her purchase?

jenny barron
Scotland

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Re: [lace] Miss Channer's Mat

2003-08-26 Thread Sue Babbs
Vivienne
Do you have an email address for the publisher, Ruth Bean? If you forwarded it to
Arachne, then everyone who wanted a copy of Miss Channer's Mat, could write to that
address telling them that they would like to purchase a copy and please would they
reprint it. That would at least give them a clear idea of the demand
Sue

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RE: [lace] Miss Channer's Mat

2003-08-26 Thread Michele
In a communication 8/15/03 from Nigel at Ruth Bean,
he wrote We are considering whether to reprint 
Miss Channer's Lace Mat...

Perhaps a show of interest would help them decide in
our favor.

Here's an email addy for them:
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Michele
in hot and sunny Utah

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Subject: [lace] Miss Channer's Mat


Lately we've heard from several who are about to make Miss Channer's Mat.
From where is the pattern available? I've been given to understand that it
is no longer in print.  My lace goal is to one day be able to make the
above-mentioned mat, although at the rate I'm going, it would take several
lifetimes to get good enough! But you gotta have a dream!

Rose-Marie
Abbotsford, BC, Canada
where we might actually get some rain!

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Re: [lace] Miss Channer's Mat

2003-08-26 Thread alice howell
At 10:07 AM 8/26/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Vivienne
Do you have an email address for the publisher, Ruth Bean? If you
forwarded it to Arachne, then everyone who wanted a copy of Miss Channer's
Mat, could write to that address telling them that they would like to
purchase a copy and please would they reprint it. That would at least give
them a clear idea of the demand Sue


Sue, we did that a few months ago.  That's when we got the reply that
Vivienne just reported.  We can only hope that sometime in the future, she
will change her mind.


Alice in Oregon - Recovering from a 5-day lace design workshop.
Oregon Country Lacemakers  
Arachne Secret Pal Administrator  
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Re: [lace] Book search

2003-08-26 Thread Diana Smith
In the last couple of weeks there was a copy of Christine and David's book
on offer on ebay - though gone now it does appear occasionally.
The two spiral inscription bobbins numbers 29 and 30 were both made by Jesse
Compton of Deanshanger, Northamptonshire.
Diana (Northamptonshire, UK)


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 I have been corresponding with Brian in Australia.  He has shown interest
 in a box of antique bobbins I have owned for years.  There are 71 of my
 bobbins on display at

  http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/hildbrnd/lace/

 for those of you interested in seeing these bobbins.  My daughter has set
 up the web site she is a computer science student hare at the university.

 Lengthy intro but I would be interested in finding a copy of
 Success to the lace pillow by Christine and David Springett as
 recommended by Brian.

 Thank-you in advance to anyone who knows of a copy for sale. I am in
 Canada so that would be preferable but not necessary.

 Johanna

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Re: [lace] pricking

2003-08-26 Thread Thelacebee
A couple of years ago I taught a lady who was absolutely desperate to learn to make 
lace.

However, she didn't see why she should waste time doing the following:

1) Spangling bobbins (I don't want to use thumpers I want the 'pretty' ones - can't 
you do it for me?)

2) Wind the thread on the bobbin (what a waste of time - can't you do it for me -BUY A 
WINDER WOMAN)

3) Make a pricking (but there are too many holes - why can't you just buy them ready 
done? Can't you do it for me?)

I asked her what she really wanted to do as all this was part of making lace.  And she 
replied - with a straight face - I want people to come up to me when I demonstrating 
and admire all the work I've done.

Needless to say I suggested she found another teacher as we obviously were not suited.

When my mum was 60 I made my first piece of honiton - her initial with a flower in it. 
 Now dad is turning 80 I want to do the same for him.  

I have the pricking ready - I made it 10 years ago when I did mum's but before I start 
the lace I will spend about 3 - 4 weeks just enjoying reading my honiton books and 
immersing myself in the style again.  

Yes, I'm making Bucks on another pillow and some torchon but I will enjoy looking at 
the books and thinking about which thread to use.  Then I will wind a few bobbins a 
night and finally, get around to making the lace.

For me, choosing the next pattern the I will spend a month working on is as important 
as making the last sewing on the lace and cutting the bobbins off.  For me, it is the 
whole process, it doesn't matter if I'm 'only' choosing a bead or anything this is 
about time I spend on doing something I love and I love every part of it.

There are very few crafts where you have access to so many parts of the process - how 
many painters today grind their own pigments or stretch their own canvases.  We still 
do everything as our predecessors did and I want to hang onto every bit of that

Liz

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 I always preprick my pricking before starting a lace peice. I call it part of the 
preparation for the lace. I, myself use a pieces of cut up cardboard from boxes that I 
would throw out anyways. I put a couple pieces of cardboard  together with another 
board that the point of my pricker doesn't not go through. This works for me. I have 
never had any problem with it.
Sherry
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Re: [lace] Book search - Springett

2003-08-26 Thread Jeriames
In a message dated 8/26/03 10:21:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
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 I would be interested in finding a copy of 
 Success to the lace pillow by Christine and David Springett as 
 recommended by Brian.
  
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This book is available (new) from Holly Van Sciver in Ithaca, NY, per the 
catalog she gave out at the IOLI Convention.  Price $24.95 US.  Holly also has 
exclusive U.S./Canada vending rights to sell all the Springett Videos  (Our 
quipment is different than in England -- something we discussed on Arachne quite 
recently.)  One of the videos is Turning Lace Bobbins with David Springett - 
144 minutes $50 US.  For Springett videos in Europe, the supplier is Linda 
Fountain.

Choose supplier, based on where you live:

http://www.vansciverbobbinlade.com
http://www.fountainslace.biz

If you are a beginner lacemaker, and live where there are no lacemakers or 
lace teachers, I highly recommend the videos by Christine Springett.  Discuss 
with the appropriate vendor (above), and she will recommend the appropriate book 
to accompany the videos, so you will have prickings/patterns, pictures, and 
text to go with the videos.  Although it seems expensive, it is extremely 
reasonable compared to travel, hotel, tuition, time to take lessons in person!  And 
the videos can be played over again at a later date, if you forget some 
important instructions.

Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

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[lace] RE: Painted Beds

2003-08-26 Thread palmhaven
Dear Patty Dowden, your painted Beds is exquisite.  Could you please contact
me, I have some questions, if you wouldn't mind.

Sylvia Andrews
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[lace] Old Italian Lace by Elisa Ricci

2003-08-26 Thread Tess1929
I have the great pleasure of announcing that both volumes of Ricci are now on 
the Professor's site. 
http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/books.html#R This has been a 
very long effort for both of us, and he has been more than patient with my 
computer ignorance.   

Besides being grateful to him for his work on our behalf, we must all thank 
Jeri.   It was she who allowed these precious volumes to live in my house all 
summer long and who never said a word about what scanning might do to damage 
her precious books.   It is this kind of sharing and good will which makes me 
think that for all the scary stuff we read in the papers and see on TV, most 
people are really pretty nice.

If you are interested in freehand lace, by the way, you will see examples of 
it toward the end of the second volume in the section on Abruzzi lace.   
Vibeke will probably tell us of other examples as well.

Now that this is done, we are beginning to gather everything together to 
produce CD 2, and I promise to let everyone know when it is ready, probably in a 
month or six weeks.

Tess ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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[lace] au revoir, so long, ta ta - etc. . . .

2003-08-26 Thread Toni Hawryluk
Well, ladies, it's been both fun and educational,
but I'm not leaving to stagnate (compost ? g)
- I will be 'growing' in a different direction.

I'm going to lurk for awhile, weaning myself away
before I unsub, meanwhile getting over missing you . . .

Thank you to all who have replied to my posts,
whether it was to chastise me (learning experiences)
or support me (heart-warming !) and also to those
who may not have replied but still took the time
to read my posts 'just in case' . . .

I know I will suffer withdrawal pains !! but I am
intending to check in now and then with a few who
have become dear to me, and ask them (you know
who you are!) to remember me now and then . . .

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Re: [lace] Lace magazine international and Jesurum lace

2003-08-26 Thread Barron
I thought this magazine had folded a year or so ago - but I could be wrong

jenny barron
Scotland


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Subject: [lace] Lace magazine international and Jesurum lace


Dear spiders
Is anyone familiar with this magazine published in the US?
I found a link to it while doing some research on Jesurum lace on the web
and was considering ordering some back issues. There is a special offer for
back issues at the moment.

One 1996 issue has an article on Jesurum lace in France and Italy which is
exactly what I'm looking for. I'm researching a set of Jesurum coloured
bobbin lace which still has the label attached identifying it as Jesurum,
made in France. The lace belongs to our Embroiderers' Guild and I'm writing
an article on it for the magazine. The lace is quite stunning and
technically amazing.

thanks in anticipation

Annette Meldrum
Wollongong,
South Coast of New South Wales, Australia
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[lace-chat] books and bookcases

2003-08-26 Thread alice howell
I have to tell you my experience this week.  Early one morning I heard
a 'pop' in my lace corner.  As I stared at the corner trying to figure
out what the sound was, there was a louder 'crash' and the top shelf of
my lace bookcase pitched forward, all over the floor.  What was worse
was that the books hit my lace pillow rack and knocked pillows on the
floor also.

I picked up a few books, and the pillows, but two shelves on the pillow
rack were bent downwards.  Since I had to leave to go to lace class, I
just left everything.

That evening, I looked more closely, and saw that the second shelf of
books had also fallen, but had fallen only 1/2 and landed on the tall
books of the third shelf.  The books didn't pitch off the shelf.

The shelf-support brackets had given way. (Cheap bookcase!)

Since class is over, and I had the day at home today, I worked on my corner.
Repaired the pillow rack and put the pillows back.  Bought a new bookcase
and put the books on it (but not sorted out yet).  Got new brackets for
the old bookcase and put my small lace pillows on the shelves instead of
a ton of books.   However, all the other lace supplies that I had to
move are still waiting for me to put them back.  I think it will have
to wait for tomorrow.

I have to tell another story.  A lady in our lace group was sitting at
home making lace a few months ago, and heard a horrible crash upstairs.
It was her glass-doored lace bookcase, fallen off the wall.  Glass and
books were everywhere.

She decided it was her signal to get rid of some of the lace books.  She
donated a huge pile to the lace group to sell with the money going to
the teacher's fund for future classes. (The group library got first pick
of the books.)

Now, I'm not getting rid of my books, yet.  In fact, some of mine were
purchased from her donation.  I got a new bookcase so there is room
for them all. G

I wonder what surprises I'll have tomorrow.

Happy lacing,

Alice in Oregon - Recovering from a 5-day lace design workshop.
Oregon Country Lacemakers  
Arachne Secret Pal Administrator  
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[lace-chat] Books and bookcases

2003-08-26 Thread Margot Walker
When I was in Library School, back in the Dark Ages (pre-metric) we 
learnt that Library floors had to be stressed to take 125 lbs per square 
foot.

On Tuesday, August 26, 2003, at 05:09  AM, Jean Nathan wrote:

 The surveyor pointed out to the principal just how much books
weigh and that there was one hut with a concrete floor which should have
been chosen as the library.
Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada
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[lace-chat] Toni could have written it

2003-08-26 Thread dominique
and so could I .
this quotation applies to lots of us as long as you change the name of the 
country 

I love America more than any other country in this world, 
and, exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to 
criticize her perpetually.

 James Baldwin (1924 - 1987), American author

dominique from paris 

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[lace-chat] Old people have a sense of humour

2003-08-26 Thread Linda Walton
Dear Lace Chatters,
here is some news about a piece of research into how our sense of humour
changes with age:-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3181489.stm

It includes some sample questions so you can test whether you're affected
yet!

Linda Walton,
in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.,
(wondering whether passing this test should be made compulsory for anyone
wanting to stand for for election . . .).

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[lace-chat] SP Thank you

2003-08-26 Thread JMMAcademy
I got a wonderful package from Austrailia.  I got the cutest little platypus, 
a bee garden poke, rose soap leaves and a yummy candy bar.  It had honeycomb 
in the middle.  It was the hit of the package .  My 3 kids and dh devoured it. 
 It also had a wonderful little lace fan.  I love my things.   Thank You so 
much Secret Pal.  I cant wait to find out who you are.   Thank You so much   
Hannah Moad

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[lace-chat] Smart Woman

2003-08-26 Thread Carole Lassak
After 17 years of marriage a man dumped his wife for a younger woman. The
downtown luxury apartment was in his name and he wanted to remain there with
his new love so he asked the wife to move out and then he would buy her
another place.


The wife agreed to this, but asked that she be given 3 days on her own
there, to pack up her things. While he was gone, the first day she lovingly
put her personal belongings into boxes and crates and suitcases. On the
second day, she had the movers come and collect her things. On the third
day, she sat down for the last time at their candlelit dining table, soft
music playing in the background, and feasted on a pound of shrimp and a
bottle of Chardonnay.

When she had finished, she went into each room and deposited a few of the
resulting shrimp shells into the hollow of the curtain rods. She then
cleaned up the kitchen and left.

The husband came back, with his new girl, and all was bliss for the first
few days. Then it started; slowly but surely. Clueless, the man could not
explain why the place smelled so bad. They tried everything; cleaned and
mopped and aired the place out. Vents were checked for dead rodents, carpets
were steam cleaned, air fresheners were hung everywhere. Exterminators were
brought in, the carpets were replaced, and on it went.

Finally, they could take it no more and decided to move. The moving company
arrived and did a very professional packing job, taking everything to their
new home..including the curtain rods.

Carole
Dublin, OH USA
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re: [lace-chat] forest fires

2003-08-26 Thread Bev Walker
Toni wrote:

 All of you should know, no one was killed
 Bev

Update - how grievously sad - is that
a van-full of firefighters *were* killed on
their way home . . .

Bev responds - yes I saw this at the website as well, terrible news.
For the record, the accident happened in Oregon, and my message referred
to Kelowna, in BC.
-- 
bye for now
Bev in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada)

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Re: [lace-chat] Old people

2003-08-26 Thread Toni Hawryluk
 here is some news about a piece of research into how our sense of humour
changes with age:-
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3181489.stm
 Linda Walton,
(wondering whether passing this test should be made compulsory for anyone
wanting to stand for election . . .).

I find that many so-called 'researches'
are flawed in one way or another . . .
the great majority are done on a very
limited basis, or their subjects come from
somewhat similar backgrounds, or the
'mix' isn't divided evenly between the sexes, or -

Testing the reactions of one set of young
people with another set of old people, instead
of the *same* people 30 or 40 years later - - -
proves ?? what ?? ?

As for Linda's aside about the 'electees' -
  - thanks for the opportunity, Linda -
perhaps it's *voters* who should be required to
take those tests, considering whom *they've*
sometimes put into office - and power over
themselves - and so stop voting for 'jokers'
(who kill)

Toni in Seattle

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[lace-chat] London Shopping

2003-08-26 Thread Joan Whitfield
Jeri wrote I know of no store in the English-speaking world quite like the
House of Liberty  I'm ashamed to say I've never been there - the last time
I went to London was a tourist visit for the children to see the sights,
Tower, Buckingham Palace etc.  The children are now aged 30 and 27!  But
from the description stand in the light well of Liberty's and look up at
the beautiful shopping spaces above it sounds very similar to Galerie
Lafayette in Paris which made a lasting impression on me.  As did the rest
of Paris, walking in the footsteps of Marie Antoinette and all the other
famous and infamous people of history.  My friend and I were rendered
speechless during this visit when we asked a fellow tourist what he
thought of Paris and got the reply Well, it's just a city, no different to
Sheffield.  If the film The Full Monty has reached your part of the
world, you can see for yourselves how alike Sheffield and Paris are!
Joan from Yorkshire

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