Re: [lace] One more attempt to clarify Yahoo and Arachne-7....

2004-06-12 Thread Ann-Marie Lördal
I am a member of many yahoo lists and I use my own emailadress. I also
have a yahoo email which I use if I want newsletters from fabric companies
or such. The strange thing is that I get a lot of spam at my own address but
almost nothing to my yahoo account!
Ann-Marie
 http://community.webshots.com/user/annma1
http://www.ettklickforskogen.se/


 I realize Yahoo's own instructions about their groups are highly
 confusing and can seem very intimidating to a newcomer. One point
 that seems to have confused lots of potential applicants is that
 to be a member of a Yahoo group you need to have a Yahoo *ID* and
 a Yahoo *profile*--even if the profile is mostly blank--but you
 do *NOT* need a Yahoo e-mail address! I also believe even if you
 have signed up for a Yahoo e-mail address you can still change the
 address you have the group's e-mails sent to a non-Yahoo address--
 I think Robin Panza has done this, for example (hopefully she's
 received the A7 messages that are beginning to circulate at her
 desired address!).

 All the best,
 Sue (*not* in Raleigh, NC at the moment, and with unusually limited
 Internet access as a result--but having a nice time anyway)

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[lace] Riddle not rhyme

2004-06-12 Thread Laceandbits
As Jean said, don't forget you will need the person (not necessarily male!) 
who is the I in the rhyme.

Also, please remember this was originally a riddle, not a nursery rhyme, the 
question being, 
Kits, cats, sacks, and wives,  
How many were there going to St Ives?

The two solutions (depending on how the question is read) being either ONE, 
ie the person telling the rhyme, or NONE ie the questioner means How many of 
kits, cats etc are going to St Ives.  The trick obviously is that the 
recipient will do the lengthy mental arithmetic of 7 times table and additions.

S, if you put a signpost in, make sure it faces the right way.

Jacquie

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[lace] Re: Knipling-Festival in Tönder 3 (long)

2004-06-12 Thread Ilske und Peter Thomsen
Hello everybody,
Jenfeld, the part of Hamburg , we live celebtate its 700year- jubilee, 
that's why I am a bit late. We have here an archive/museum which is 
normaly only once a month open. So I forgot allways to go there and 
have a look, but now it is open all the days of the celebration and we 
did it. I learned that this part is the so callled coastel sandy 
moorland built by the last ice-time. It was called Yellow Field 
before and for 700 years the first people settled here. We, DP and I 
live here for 29 years only but if we try very hard we are perhaps 
still here in 671 years.
Ok back to lace, read Tönder.
In the Brorsonhus, Östergade 14, we could see several things. One of 
them a big collection about the Europian tape-laces. In other showcases 
were the lace-jewelleries and some collers from Jana Novak and collers 
from Eva Fialowa and other tcheque lace artists. As well as wonderful 
fine tape-laces from Lepoglava, Croatia with little flowers and 
tendrils and other laces. And what was surprising for me a whole 
showcase full of Three Pairs Flanders Stitch something I saw for the 
first time on our Kongreß in Bad Pyrmont where a lace-friend of mine 
from Dresden gave a class about. This is in a way a easy work but looks 
so fine and decorative. Also some russian tape-laces with colours and 
motives like leaves, animals and houses from Sebastina van der Herike 
and the fantastic designs from Riet Delescen were on display.
After all that lots more in Dröhses Hus, Storegade 14. Here you could 
admire very big tablecloths with lace over and over. In another room 
the work of Astrid Hansen, an examined lace-teacher, was shown the 
properly done workinschemes the lace-samples, the hole way she make a 
lace class. I am not sure if you are interested in her live, if so let 
me know and I can tel you later.
Very interesting was the lace-pillow from queen Alexandrina, she did 
lacemaking all her live long and died in 1952. It was made from Carl 
Abildgaard in 1900. On the pillow is a Tönder-lace Rikke and it is 
possible that this was her last work. After the death of the queen the 
first lady-in-waiting heired the pillow. Later queen ingrid got it and 
today it belonged to Tönder Museum.
There was another lace-pillow which belonged to Berthe Marie 
Alexandersen (1819 - 1899) which married in 1840 the farmer Hans 
Alexandersen born 1777.  It is not the pillow which is so interesting, 
they found a very small notice-book inside in which she wrote at the 
end of a week how many scallops she had worked and  than convert into 
danske cubits, this had, one cubit were 27 scallops. First they read 
the booklet wrong it was the lace-searcher Ebba Busch who found out how 
to read the thing. So we know now that Berthe had worked  from this 
lace 1228 d.cubits and about one and half year before she died 1623 d. 
cubits plus 12 scallops this are in meters 1019, I let you to convert 
it in feet.
I could tel til next week but I must do also something else.
For ending with Tönder I tell you about a needle lace from Hungaria the 
Halas-lace. I had heard of this and still seen one or two pieces and 
here I had lots of them. It is a fine lace with clear motives, really 
lovely .
It started in Kiskunhalas in the south-west of Hungaria in 1912. The 
first designer was Árpád Dékáni (1861 - 1931)  and Mária Markovits 
(1875 - 1954) was the best and one of the first  makerin of this sort 
of lace. The design is drawn of a paper which come on a piece of tissu. 
Over both you put a piece of greasproof paper. Then with a thicker 
thread you made the outlines of the design and after that with another 
thread and various stiches the design. The motives are made with a sort 
of darn stitch so it become very dense and this clear look. There 
are more than 60 different stiches in use.
In the last report I tell you about Lorenzen's Gard and a bit about 
danske lace tradition but perhaps only in a few days.
Hope i didn't bore you.
Greetings
ilske

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[lace] ebay - for spiders!

2004-06-12 Thread Diana Smith
Here's an item for the very committed spider ;))
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=58430item=5303049043rd=1#ebayphotohosting

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[lace] Photos from Sheila - cottage designs and more...

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Re: [lace] Riddle not rhyme

2004-06-12 Thread Alice Howell
At 05:03 AM 6/12/2004, you wrote:
As Jean said, don't forget you will need the person (not necessarily male!)
who is the I in the rhyme.. if you put a signpost in, make sure it 
faces the right way.

No, you do not need a person who is the I.  The *viewer* can be the I.
And, yes, a sign To St Ives needs to be in the first section, pointing to 
the far end.  And there could be a sign at the end that just says St 
Ives  if part of the village is shown  The people would mostly be facing 
the TO. sign, except for a wife who stopped to pick up a lost sack and is 
turned around while picking it up.

Alice in Oregon -- where we have sunshine on the Portland Rose Parade.
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Re: [lace] Riddle not rhyme

2004-06-12 Thread Laceandbits
In a message dated 12/06/2004 19:02:24 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

 The people would mostly be facing 
 the TO. sign, except for a wife who stopped to pick up a lost sack and is 
 turned around while picking it up.
 

No.  That's the whole point!  It's I that's going to St Ives, the rest are 
coming from there, so the people need to be facing away from the village.  If 
they were all going to St Ives it would be a maths problem not a riddle.

If you want it to be the viewer who is I, then the people need to be coming 
towards you, not going from side to side on the panel.

There are 3 St Ives in England, the best known being the one in Cornwall.  I 
can't find any evidence as to which one is referred to in the rhyme; it could 
have been just because it happens to rhyme with wives.  So it doesn't matter 
much what the village/town (if you have one) looks like as there is no 
distinguishing feature like a cathedral tower.

Jacquie

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[lace] As I was going to St Ives

2004-06-12 Thread Jean Nathan
Try these:

http://www.rhymes.org.uk/as_i_was_going_to_st_ives.htm

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/As%20I%20Was%20Going%20to%20St%20I
ves

Jean in Poole

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[lace] I'm Away

2004-06-12 Thread Clive and Betty Ann Rice
I'll be away for the coming week and will unsubscribe as soon as I post this message.  
Tamara (Arachne) and Suzie (UDC-L) please do let me know of any earthshaking 
developments I need to know from the lists. Thanks.

Any private postings will be attended to when I return at the end of next week.  
Everyone stay happy and (^_^)

Luv, Betty Ann Rice in Roanoke, Virginia USA
  aka dixiedolace

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Re: [lace-chat] sleeping in parks

2004-06-12 Thread Jean Nathan
Weronika wrote:


 Why was there a rule like that?  Did taxis count as cars?


As I understood it, Youth Hostels were a way that people, who otherwise
wouldn't be able to afford to, could afford to travel. If you had a car you
were well off, and even now, if you can afford to travel far by taxi in the
UK, you can certainly afford a hotel. Just about everyone drives a car now.
So I expect that's why the car rule has changed.

Jean in Poole

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[lace-chat] :-) Words of Wisdom

2004-06-12 Thread Jean Nathan
Words of Wisdom

People who live in glass houses should make love in the basement.

Never read the fine print. There ain't no way you're going to like it.

The only two things we do with greater frequency in middle age are urinate
and attend funerals.

The trouble with bucket seats is that not everybody has the same size
bucket.

To err is human, to forgive - highly unlikely.

Do you realize that in about 40 years, we'll have thousands of old ladies
running around with tattoos?

Money can't buy happiness -- but somehow it's more comfortable to cry in a
Porsche than in a Hyundai.

Drinking makes some husbands see double and feel single.

Living in a nudist colony takes all the fun out of Halloween.

After a certain age, if you don't wake up aching in every joint, you are
probably dead.

Jean in Poole

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[lace-chat] SP thanks

2004-06-12 Thread dominique
Wow Wow! my new parcel has arrived .. from Australia !!! ... thank you 
s much . you can be sure i'll wear the sunhat ( is that the right word 
? ) at the first occasion . i'm sure it'll be a great success with my 
friends !! . they'll think i'm as crazy as ever .
 i really liked the little puzzled kitty , the memo and the incense sticks 
.. ( the cat isn't quite as pleased with this one though ...)

Australia is such a large continent i sure will have problems trying to 
find where the enveloppes come from ... especially if you're one of the 
lurkers ... lol ..

 can't wait till next month`


 Dominique from Paris , france.

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[lace-chat] russian lace booklets on ebay

2004-06-12 Thread Barron
these look interesting
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=19158item=81108970
08rd=1

they were published in 1984 but the cover illustrations look older.

jenny barron
Scotland

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[lace-chat] Dishwashing liquid fleas

2004-06-12 Thread Lynn Carpenter
Before I started using Frontline (fipronil?) on my dogs, I used to use the
dishsoap-in-water to drown the little biters.  That was after I discovered
a flea could struggle to the surface of plain water and leap back out!
G.  However, adding the dish liquid made them struggle around under the
water and drown.  Bite *my* dog, will you?

Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA
alwen at i2k dot com

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Re: [lace-chat] russian lace booklets on ebay

2004-06-12 Thread Lorri Ferguson
I have these booklets (32  36 pgs. ea). The cover says MOCKBA 1994 
and the drawings are very 'stylized' much like high fashion drawings.  I 
think MOCKBA is the designer as most of the prickings are labeled 'mockba  
a yr..
The lace is basically tape lace with some tallies/leaves.  I think most 
anyone who has done basic tape laces could follow the prickings without 
directions (the directions are there but in Russian).  It might take a try 
or 2 to determine which thread to use, I can't easily pick up on a thread 
size.
Bk. #1 has 13 edgings /or insertions, trim pieces for 2 different 
blouse/tops, and 2 collars.
Bk. #2 has 3 collars (large), 3 mats (very similar) 2 
insertions/edgings, and 1 very wide edging for a scarf or towel.
What I found very interesting is the detail of the drawings in the 
directions.  'Blow-ups' of crossings, the beginning and ending of tallies, 
etc.
I am happy with my purchase and wish I could get one of the collars done 
before Prague (but it will never happen!).

Lorri

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 these look interesting
 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=19158item=81108970
 08rd=1

 they were published in 1984 but the cover illustrations look older.

 jenny barron
 Scotland

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[lace-chat] Re: russian lace booklets on ebay

2004-06-12 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Jun 12, 2004, at 21:31, Lorri Ferguson wrote:
I have these booklets (32  36 pgs. ea). The cover says MOCKBA  
1994
and the drawings are very 'stylized' much like high fashion drawings.   
I
think MOCKBA is the designer as most of the prickings are labeled  
'mockba 
a yr..
Lorri, C is s and B is v in the Russian alphabet, so it's  
simply Moskva (Moscow), which is also the place where the booklets  
have been published. I've just forwarded Jenny's original message to  
Clay (she's not on chat) to ask her to bid on the booklets for me. If  
she gets them for me, I might be able to see who the designer is.

But, unless there's a normal (two-piece, consisting of first and  
surname) name somewhere (title page, copyright page), it's likely we'll  
never know who designed those patterns; even post communist Russia  
(which it was, in 1994, when the book was published) isn't all that  
strong on giving credit where it's due :) In some ways, it's worse  
now, with the money being *the* mainspring for most actions; on the one  
hand, there's more pirating going on, on the other the national  
artists aren't recognised/ subsidised, so that you might not even see  
*their* names mentioned :)

Jenny, the cover illustrations look older, because:
a) Art Nouveau and Art Deco are still (again?) very popular styles in  
Eastern Europe
b) The meandering style of the Russian Tape lace fits them very well :)

If you look at the picture of the blouse and hat, they're much more  
modern (60ties?)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? 
ViewItemcategory=19158item=81108970
08rd=1
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Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
  Healthy US through The No-CARB Diet:
no C-heney, no A-shcroft, no R-umsfeld, no B-ush.
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[lace-chat] SP thanks

2004-06-12 Thread Alice Howell
Dear Secret Pal,
A mail truck stopped outside my home, and I found a package on my front 
porch.  What fun!!  The little glass birds came through intact, and are 
beautiful!  They're hanging by my computer until I find the perfect place 
for them.  I've always loved things made of glass.

The fancy sachet is quite unique.  Did you make it?  It smells so 
nice.  I'll save the quilting book for a quiet evening when I can look 
through it with leisure.  A glance through gave me a hint of the projects 
in it.

Thank you for a fun package, mysterious friend!
Alice
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[lace-chat] Europe in a wheelchair

2004-06-12 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
Weronika,
The long and the short of such a plan (and without wrapping in clean 
linen, to use as many cliches in one breath as I can g) is this:

It is, probably, still safe enough to live outside the loop in Europe 
for a while, if you're willing to stick to small towns/villages (and 
what tourist does?), though it's never going to be pleasant (given the 
weather. Europe ain't California)

If your friend is thinking of capitals/big cities, then it's neither 
safe nor possible, brother for a shield or no. Big maybe - some of the 
Estern Europe countries might not yet have caught up to the general 
standard, so it *might be*, marginally, more possible to live in the 
rough there, for a short term.

Since it'd be much more difficult for an *American*, to adjust to truly 
hideous conditions than it would be for me or you (both used to doing 
without), I'd suggest she do a trial run in either Washington DC or 
NYC (where, at least, she speaks the language, and where handicapped 
accessible is fairly comonplace) before tackles Europe.

I know you've spent a night in a Warsaw park within the last couple of 
years, and survived unharmed, but you'd be doing your friend a great 
disservice to encourage this harebrained idea. IMO.

---
Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
  Healthy US through The No-CARB Diet:
no C-heney, no A-shcroft, no R-umsfeld, no B-ush.
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