Re: [lace] lace software (was: How did you start making lace?)
Lisa, there are lots of people still using it - all around the world. Just because one person decided to leave the company doesn't mean that sales or support ceases!! Long before I became in any way officially involved with the programme, I evaluated the various options, and chose the earlier version of the programme, Lace Designer Gold. Having just finished writing an instruction book for one of the other programmes, I'm even more convinced that Lace 2000 is a good programme. I personally offer support to lacemakers all around the world, although I can only sell the software within Australia...but supplies are still readily available from various world-wide distributors. Lace 2000 offers a variety of grids to work on, and does most things for most people. Sure, there's a bit of a learning curve to become familiar with how it works, but what I've always liked about it is that the "computer-speak" has been kept to a minimum I agree with Jo's comment that you shouldn't think that drawing lace patterns on a computer will be easier than drawing by hand - at least until you get the hang of a programme! Once you master the programme, drawing on a computer becomes much quicker and easier...and beautifully accurate. Once you've worked out how you like to draw, say, a spider, you can save that pattern element in a motif library and reuse it over and over againand as well, you have the usual computer functions like copying and pasting to take the drudgery out of drawing pattern repeats. I could write a book about the various things it does, and why I like it (come to think of it, I did just that!!!) but won't clog up the list too much! If you'd like a demo version, send me a private email and I'll zap it straight back to you! Then you can play for yourself and see what you think. And as always, I'm always here to help if you (or anyone else for that matter!) have questions. Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Jo Falkink" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lisa McClure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "arachne" Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 4:49 PM Subject: [lace] lace software (was: How did you start making lace?) > check out > http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/SoftKlos-EN.html > for more options, after reading the general advice on > http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/eval-EN.html > > Jo Falkink > near Gouda, Netherlands > > > Is anybody using Lace 2000 software program? If so, what do you think? > > Is > > it still being supported? Is it worth the money? Again, I've love to > > hear > > any feedback, good or bad. > > > > Lisa McClure > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: How did you start making lace?
Well, welcome back to BL!!! Let's see; the Cluny de Brioude book (and, I think, the Le Puy book) are co-authored by Fouriscot, right? This is a series of books in French but with excellent (color) diagrams. They're not thick books but I quite like the patterns in them. I have the Cluny de Brioude book, although it's still packed up from moving so I can't tell you how many patterns, etc. The Cecil Higgins book is strictly a book of prickings. It's bound like a college term paper, not a particularly professional job. The designs are scrumptious, but I'd suggest waiting till you're more comfortable with your return to the lace because they're quite advanced and have no directions whatsoever. There are two books about Lester lace and I can't remember which is which. One is a history of him and his lace manufactory, with photos of incredible pieces, but doesn't include patterns or info on making them. I believe the other is like the Cecil Higgins booklet--photocopies of prickings without directions. Hope this helps. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA (formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Lisa McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > A Celebration of Bedfordshire LACE - The Thomas Lester Collection > Guipure-und Cluny-Spitzen > Patterns for Lace at the Cecil Higgins Art Gallery, Bedford, from > the Thomas Lester Collection > Traced Parchment Patterns for Lace > Guipure du Puy > Cluny de Brioude - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] How did you start making lace?
Der Lisa, I don't have any of the others on your list , but I'm working a pattern from the Cluny de Brioude book at the moment and I reccommend the book wholeheartedly. The Cluny techniques differ slightly from Beds. ones, but most of the time you can substitute beds. techniques quite easily, and the diagrams and instructions are clear where things do need to be done a little differently. The only drawback, for an English-speaker, is that the text is entirely in French (doesn't bother me as I read French well), however everything is beautifully diagrammed so you shouldn't need to refer to the text too often and we have several French speakers on Arachne to help with the occasional translation difficulty. Beth in an unseasonally warm Cheshire, England Lisa wrote: > My next question is about books -- I'm a real book hound, and love my lace > books! I've been visiting the Van Sciver website and am greatly tempted by > these titles. If anybody can offer feedback about any of these, (good or > bad) I'd really appreciate it - (I'd also like to know which books are in > English, what type of binding, how many pages, # patterns, etc.) > > A Celebration of Bedfordshire LACE - The Thomas Lester Collection > Guipure-und Cluny-Spitzen > Patterns for Lace at the Cecil Higgins Art Gallery, Bedford, from the > Thomas Lester Collection > Traced Parchment Patterns for Lace > Guipure du Puy > Cluny de Brioude > > Right now I want to rebuild my technical skills, especially in Bedfordshire > lace. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace software - Lace 2000 (long)
I love it. Had a bit of trouble getting started, but then Ruth gave me some advice, and I haven't looked back. I'm mainly using it for the Advance Torchon Assessment of the UK Lace Guild, but whether/when I actually submit the portfolio is questionnable (I seem to make one mistake in each piece I make and that's not acceptable for the assessment). Having made a design, it's great for printing out in different size or angles of grids, choosing either by thread (with several grid-size suggestions for each thread depending on the effect you want), or by both metric and imperial grid measurements (mainly imperial), but you can add custom-sized grids as well as your own threads. The fact that you can switch off "snap to grid" (each dot you draw fits exactly on to a grid dot, and each line you draw starts and ends exactly on a dot) means you can also design completely freehand. Design elements include: dots, straight line, curved line, tally, leaf, roseground, fan, circle, fill with dots, smooth line, trail lines and freehand Printing is either in colour or black and white, and you can choose the colour you use for each element. For a piece using several blocks of whole stitch in different colours, I changed the colour of the straight line in the program to the colour I wanted for each block. I found it useful, in addition to printing the pattern the size I was going to work it, to also print one on a 1 mm straight grid to remind me, at a glance, where I'd decided to put what colour - the colours were more dense on a small grid. You can change the grid angle once you've worked out a design, so, for instance, if you like a straight piece you've designed, you can turn it into a circular mat, collar, fan, or whatever curved, at the click on the mouse - no redrawing. Straight grids from 45 degrees to 72 degrees can be chosen. Using layers especially, I find it's great for playing around with possible elements in a piece - replacing, moving around, changing - without having to start the whole thing over again. And when I;ve decided on the final design, there's no "Oh, blast! I've drawn that dot in the wrong place! I'll have to start drawing all over again". Sometimes I find the printing goes a bit haywire, in that instead of the grid I've asked for I get the top left corner printed with dots three inches apart, but that could be my computer and printer, and nothing to do with the program. It's easily overcome, by setting my printer so that I print preview before printing. That makes sure it isn't playing silly b*s, and shows me the size it will actually come out on paper - I can't always visualise what say 1/12th inch diagonal will actually look like. I have two criticisms of the program, or rather additions I'd like to see (1) I'd like to be able to group select on the angle of the dots as well as in a square, so I could delete a row of diagonal dots or a diagonal part of a design that I'd changed my mind about - I don't always remember to put the bit I'm experimenting with in a separate layer. This isn't a problem if I put it in a separate layer and lock other layers. (2) As we don't always work in one colour nowadays, a colour fill for the background of different parts of the design would be useful - I can see if I'm getting the effect I want if I print very small, but not as I'm working. Having spent some time considering whether to go for 'Lace 2000', 'Coreldraw' or 'Knipling' - didn't get on with 'Coreldrawl', couldn't get a reply from the seller of 'Knipling' - I bought Lace 2000 and wouldn't be without it. I also wouldn't be without Ruth's book "Click and Drag . Snap to Grid" to go with it - much clearer and user friendly than the manual. The ilsoft website (the writer of the software) is: http://www.ilsoft.co.uk/content.aspx?page=PROD473: this describes it, but there doesn't appear to be a way of downloading the demo or the patches - I'm running mine without the patches and it seems OK. Ruth can tell you more about those. You can order direct from ilsoft through the web site. Ruth might also know how to get the demo. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] How did you start making lace?
On Friday, October 28, 2005, at 11:32 PM, Lisa McClure wrote: A Celebration of Bedfordshire LACE - The Thomas Lester Collection Patterns for Lace at the Cecil Higgins Art Gallery, Bedford, from the Thomas Lester Collection Traced Parchment Patterns for Lace I have these 3 books. The first is an oversized (length and width, not thickness) book of magnificent photographs, including close-ups of Lester lace. There are no prickings but it's a great reference/eye candy book because the pictures are so good that you can figure out how the pieces were made. 'Patterns for lace' is a book of prickings with photos of about half of them made up. The prickings have all been trued up. The last book has copies of old prickings only. They would have to be trued up or redrawn before making them. With your love for Beds and with lace books going out of print so quickly, I'd suggest that you buy all 3, even if you're not ready for them yet. They'll inspire you to keep going! Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada Visit the Seaspray Guild of Lacemakers web site: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/quinbot/seaspray/SeasprayLaceGuild.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace 2000 / Knipling
I have two criticisms of the program, or rather additions I'd like to see (1) I'd like to be able to group select on the angle of the dots as well as in a square, Knipling allows for diagonal selection at any angle. Not only rectengualr shaped but also diamond shape or ellipse shape selection. (...), couldn't get a reply from the seller of 'Knipling' Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK Knipling has a reseller that does answer, their site (http://www.nytiknipling.dk) is Danish, but they do speak English, so try them at: aase at nyt i knipling dot dk (remove the spaces, replace the at and dot). Knipling also has a help-one-another group. Jo Falkink (no other benefits than recieveing pre-releases for testing/review and suggest new features) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace 2000 / Knipling
I don't know which program you mean with "this". As you can see in the evaluation table at least Knipling and Lace-2000 support back-ground images. Background images allow to true up patterns. It is a matter of tracing. I did it once myself with Knipling. A scanned immage never exactly matches a proper grid. So it was convenient to be able to shift the background image slightly form time to time, depending on the section I was working at. I don't know wether Lace-2000 supports that. Jo Falkink near Gouda, Netherlands http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/SoftKlos-EN.html (...) My question is this, I would like to take some of the older patterns that I have and true up the prickings. Will this program allow me to some how scan in an older pattern and true up the holes? Thanks for your help! bobbi - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lace software
Lisa, I use Lace 2000 and have very little computer knowledge. True I had a first rate demonstration by Arachne Sue Babbs before I jumped in and she or Ruth Budge have been wonderful help lines for me. I have not tried Beds on it but it does have a trail feature that I use for a lot of my tape lace designs. Unfortunately, the program is on the upstairs computer and I have just had a full hysterectomy and my doc has forbidden stairs for now. Good job my bedroom/bathroom is on the ground floor! Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lace software wish list
Hello all I'm afraid the lace software makers don't really understand the difference between the concepts of layering and grouping, or don't understand we need both. Layering is convienent to show different views of designs. I see a purpose for the following layers: 1) printed on both the pricking and the working diagrams. Typically (but not limited to) the dots. 2) printed only on the pricking. Typically the workers as straight lines from dot to dot. 3) printed only on the working diagram. Typically the workers going _arround_ the dots and also the passives. 4) never printed at al. Typically construction lines and reminders for the designer only. For example a curve along the outer dots of a Torchon fan. Dividing this curve into regular pieces defines the positions for the pins/dots. Grouping has a different purpuse. To repeat a portion of my design, (for example the Torchon fan metioned earlier), I want to select and copy all elements (dots, lines...) on all four layers with a single click. I know grouping is more complicated for the software developpers than layers, but it would be much more convienient to use. With layers only, I would need 4 layers for the fans, 4 for the palm leaves, 4 for the spiders etc. etc. I would soon ran out of layers and I don't like the idea of having to remember which (type of) figure I created on which set of layers. Sorry for crossposting, but the layer issue rises from time to time on the arachne-list, but is also relevant for the Knipling User Group. I hope users of lace-2000 forward the message so they can profit whenever the programmer makes a new version and listens to this wish. Jo Falkink near Gouda, Netherlands http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/SoftKlos-EN.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lace software, Easy Lace
Hi everyone As long as we're talking lace software, I'd like to put a word in for the Easy Lace program. When it first came out I tried its demo and that for Lace 2000, decided the E-L had more scope for me. From reading other messages, I can see that Lace 2000 is upgraded considerably. Likewise Colin at Ilsoft has upgraded E-L. Go here to check it out: http://www.easycross.co.uk/ Jo, I have always wanted to try the 'Knipling' program. A year ago it intrigued me because there was a version for Linux which I had at the time - now I'm not using the Linux o/s. Must remember to check their site. There is also a program from France, http://perso.wanadoo.fr/aplimouzin/frame.html Yes, Jo has all these links as well :)) http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/SoftKlos-EN.html > patterns that I have and true up the prickings. Will this program > allow me to some how scan in an older pattern and true up the > holes? In a word, yes. However: None of the programs will true the holes for you - you can scan the older pattern, and make it as background, then manually (i.e. mouse-ally) put the dots in on the grid (the grid is superimposed). It is a 'compare and place' sort of thing, and some guesswork - e.g. is the hole really supposed to be there or is it a pricking error? When I'm doing this sort of thing, I flip back and forth between having the background, the old pattern, showing, and turning it off, so I can see the new work on its own, and dot away, with the mouse. These are very mouse-y programs! I'm working on truing an old Buckspoint pattern. It will end up too perfect-looking though as I think some of the charm of the older patterns is the subtlety, the natural unevenness, that happens with handwork. The benefit of having the pattern in software is I can print a copy any time, any size to suit any thread, I can type notes on the pattern etc. (even so, the pencil is never far away - I write on the pricking too, while working the lace). One last bit of advice - these programs are just tools, big useful tools, but they don't design for you - the lacemaker has to have knowledge of the lace in order to make a good design! -- bye for now Bev in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Reverse that E-mail address change
OOPS! We cannot utilize Century Tel service due to an aged modem, it seems, so please change our address back to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I apologize for the inconvenience! Alison - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lace gold
dear spiders this thread is very interesting because I bought the software and have really enjoyed it it does most of what has been told about lace 2000 so just to add my two cents worthI like and use lace gold but I am still confused as I think I a person who does not feel at all computer literate it takes a lot of time away from lace making to learn all the basics but after you learn it is easy (for Me) thanks for listening yours in lace Dearl Christiansburg, Virginia, USA My idea of housework is to sweep the room with a glance. Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cablenet-va.com/~dearlk/ http://photos.yahoo.com/ladearl - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] is it too late to say "I got my IOLI Bulletin"?
Dearest Spiders, I'm still living in a time warp - I really think it should be September. Katrina stole a month of my life and I want it back! In today's mail I finally received my IOLI Bulletin, Fall 2005, - it had been sent to my mother's house while we had evacuated, and she finally got to the post office to send it to me. It was fun to be reminded of convention in July. Beth McCasland in the suburbs of New Orleans, Louisiana, USA where it's clear, sunny and very pleasant out - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace 2000 / Knipling
Yes, Lace 2000 lets you move the background scanned image onto the dots, also "tilt" it slightly if your original scanned image wasn't quite straight.Part of the trick (which was never properly explained in the official user manual) is to get the scanned image the same size as the original too. Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Jo Falkink" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Roberta S Donnelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "arachne" Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 1:00 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Lace 2000 / Knipling > I don't know which program you mean with "this". As you can see in the > evaluation table at least Knipling and Lace-2000 support back-ground images. > Background images allow to true up patterns. It is a matter of tracing. > I did it once myself with Knipling. A scanned immage never exactly matches a > proper grid. So it was convenient to be able to shift the background image > slightly form time to time, depending on the section I was working at. I > don't know wether Lace-2000 supports that. > > Jo Falkink > near Gouda, Netherlands > http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/SoftKlos-EN.html > > > (...) > > My question is this, I would like to take some of the older > > patterns that I have and true up the prickings. Will this program > > allow me to some how scan in an older pattern and true up the > > holes? > > Thanks for your help! > > bobbi > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: [lace] Lace software/Easy Lace
oops, for the correction: I wrote - > Likewise Colin at Ilsoft has upgraded E-L. Go here to check it out and I meant Colin at Fulsoft - Fulford Software Solutions. excusez-moi... -- bye for now Bev in sunny, rainy, autumny Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace Day in Southern California??
Is there going to be a Lace Day in Southern California this year? I haven't needed to attend in a few years and remember there usually being one in November. Anyone have any info? Thanks. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
