Re: [lace] Lily of the Valley pattern
Hi Malvary, Thankyou for giving me the issue of Lace that the bouquet appeared in. I have sent a message to the lady I am in contact with at the Lace Guild and told her which issue and will have to wait to see if she or the librarian can come up with anything. I do remember reading the details of the bouquet on the copy of the pattern that my friend had all those years ago. The colours mentioned made it sound gorgeous even though the sketch on the front cover was black and white you could picture it in your minds eye. Regards Jenny DeAngelis. Spain. Just went and found the issue of the Lace magazine (#37 Spring 1985) and found a picture of the John Bull Trophy Award (1984) at the English Lace School. There was also a write up about the Itchen Valley Lacemakers group. The wedding bouquet bouquet was worked in cream and apricot: 3 roses with leaves; 17 stephanotis, 14 hyacinth pips, and 5 lily of the valley. 40 members took part and it took them 400 hours. It was made in 50 Sylko thread because there was a wide enough colour range to get a close blending of the colours. There was also an open strip of lace threaded with the ribbon. It says that they were planning to make up a booklet with full instructions - don't know how to find out if that was ever done. Malvary in Ottawa - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Just back from lacing in Sweden
Dear lacemaking friends: I have just returned home from another wonderful lacemaking trip to Sweden. I so thoroughly enjoyed my experience at OIDFA/Lund that I just keep going back! For those of you not familiar, they give 1 week courses over a 2-week period. in Vadstena, Sweden in bobbin lace. They are held at the Vadstena folkhoegskola, part of the whole Brigattine kloister & monastery complex. The buildings go back to the 1400's. The housing accommodations are also really good: private bath, large bedroom and shared kitchen, dining, eating area in each unit. Groceries are a short walk. The entire location is set on the Vattern lake (second largest lake in Sweden) and English is spoken everywhere, including class. I was at the school last year and this year and will definitely return next year. The teachers are excellent and facilities excellent also. In my opinion, Vadstena is one of the prettiest places that I have ever visited. I swam in the lake (really cold!) in the midnight sun. I walked, made lace, browsed antique and book shops, ate well and had a wonderful experience yet again. It has never failed to disappoint me. Wonderful friends from Japan, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, England, etc. I stayed for two weeks. And it was easy on the purse. The classes include Swedish laces on several levels: beginners, intermediate, fine lace, church lace, contemporary laces. There are lectures, abundant coffee breaks w/cookies, outings to lace exhibits. If you are interested, they can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) or [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) . Birgitta Hagemark speaks and writes English well. Their website is _www.svenskaspetsar.se_ (http://www.svenskaspetsar.se) but is mostly in Swedish. Now, off to Holland for my two weeks with Jeannette Van Oord - another fabulous class in Doorn with gourmet food (and lots of it!) that is also easy on the pockets. Does life get any better? Linda Sheff - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] curiouser and curiouser
I think we've tracked down exactly where most writers of articles about lacemaking get their misconceptions! :) That beaver looks suspiciously as if he has placed all the pins in the lace pillow and is now winding thread from the reel around the pins! Sue Did you know of the poem by Lewis Carroll called "The Hunting of the Snark" It includes mention (and a picture) of a lace making BEAVER! http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/c/carroll/lewis/snark/snark.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] flyer/handout on lace
In a message dated 7/12/06 2:05:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The little band of lace makers here in sunny Kununurra, West > Australia have been asked to do a one and a half day demo in the > handcraft pavilion at the local Ag show this weekend. > > It is a wonderful opportunity for us to advertise our small group and > lace in general so I would like to capitalise on it by having a > handout that will induce others to give it a try. We will be severely > limited for floor space so it will be one or possible two at a time > sitting and making lace, answering questions etc. > Dear Jenny, Congratulations! It seems like yesterday that you started your lace journey and found others in your community with whom to make lace.. Our handout in Maine (a tourism and agricultural state) is 8 1/2" x 11" folded in half like a book, and printed sideways to read like a book. For the cover, Lacefairy designed a logo. Below it I added a pretty lace quote by a famous person. Inside on left, I wrote a list: "Care of Lace". On the right: "Lacemakers of Maine", which explains who we are and what we do, lists the variety of techniques of lacemaking, and lists places where we have demonstrated. At the bottom are two contacts (Tess and myself). On the back is information about our national organization (IOLI) with website address and the information that books of instruction and videos may be borrowed from: ___. Finally, there is the following paragraph: "The internet is a vast source of information on lacemaking. A list server at www.arachne.com enables people interested in lace to communicate throughout the world. Many lacemakers showcase their talents and share information on personal web pages." (I hope this is still an accurate site, Jenny.) Lacefairy added limited lace graphics. Make sure there is white space. When something is too much text, it may discourage reading. It also allows someone to jot down info in the margins, based on your conversation with them. Jenny: Be careful how much personal info you give, as you do not know who might pick up a brochure someone else drops. I see that you use a P.O. Box (as do I), which is a good thing. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Lace Museums in France 2 (very long)
Hello Lacefriends, Let's go along with the subject. From Bayeux it isn't a long way to Courseulles sur Mer. We arrived just before the Musée du Vieux C. And the lady was very sad to tell me that there aren't lots of laces. but I looked at them and found some interesting caps for folk-costumes, some lovely Chantilly laces, big drawings for a huge shawl and a few other lace related things. the rest of the museum is about all the other things belonging to this region during the last centuries. We call such a museum Heimatmuseum. The lady who was probably the director of the museum tried during that time to fone to the family which "hosts" the Polychrome Chantilly Laces. But again didn't get an answer. I heard from a lacefriend that the man died in january and since that time his widow doesn't appear in public neither answer the fone. that's a pity because this is the onliest point we could see such laces. I told everybody I met in Luxeuil and we discussed what to do. Perhaps somebody of you has an idea. So we drove back to Caen sad and a bit soughtful. And Dp didn't know what to say. We spent the afternoon at the museum of Caen. This museum shows the history and the cafts and trades of the town. So a bit of lace too. There you find a dress and a shawl totally from Blonde-lace, a dress for a bride. Unhappily there isn't a lot of light. Nearby some marriage thigs with or without lace. Bonnets for folk costumes in another corner and the story from Rose Durand who after 1927 tried to give children lace lessons. The next day I reached needle-lace-friends paradise. South east of Caen you find Argentan. A lovely little French town. A bit outside the center situated in a beautifull garden with the lake Noé behind you find a very nice middle-class house from the XIX cent. Today the House of Laces. It was closed for renovation and had just opened the first of june. On the rez-de-chaussee you find not only breathtaking Argentan- and Alencon-laces but the needle lace history beginning with Punto in Aria and Reticella. One of the pieces, very long and about 30 cm broad looked as if it is 5 cm high so three-dimesional because of the delicate way to put the different points together and because of the dent de loup - wolf-tooth. Do you know what this is If not I'll explain tomorrow. They explain very understandeble the differnce between the both needle laces starting with the Point Royal de France and so on. The laces have wonderful describtion and for those not understanding French they have sheets in other languages. And in a correct language. Because DP doesn't speak French he got an English one, the German one wasn't ready at that day. On the first floor you find a collection of different bobbin lace pieces and in another room machine made laces. And they explain that those laces not only replaced the hand made but got their names as well. And today the name "Calais Lace" was synonym for "Mechanical Lace". Before or at the end you can look at the video, which is really good but only in French. And you can take some of the treasures with you in form of postcards. I have never seen such a selection. Also books and lace things but machine made ones. By the way at the end I'll write you all the adresses on a list. Greetings for today Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] COMPUTER DRAFTING
That's odd, as I just went directly to the page with the download available. The address is http://www.ilsoft.co.uk/content.aspx?page=demos And I'm downloading the demo right now. Hope it helps. Ruth Budge wrote: Let me assure you all, I have been nagging ILSoft since March to get on and put a demo version of the programme on their website. The page actually says it is available, but even I can't find it! Miranda, I'll email you personally with a copy of the demo version, and I'll also email ILSoft again! Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) -- Ruth One who knows how to show and to accept kindness will be a friend better than any possession - Sophocles - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] curiouser and curiouser
Did you know of the poem by Lewis Carroll called "The Hunting of the Snark" It includes mention (and a picture) of a lace making BEAVER! http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/c/carroll/lewis/snark/snark.html He looks to me as though he is working a strange form of Tenerife lace, you place the pins in the pad and then wind the thread around them, I think you then sew over and under those threads to hold them in place and create the design, something like that though I have never worked tenerife lace. Sandra Stilwell, who is an expert at Tenerife lace, taught me to make bobbin lace at classes in Essex. in the early 1980s. She used to bring pieces of Tenerife to the classes at times and I believe she wrote a book or two on the subject. Perhaps Lewis Caroll, or the illustrator of the poem, had seen both Tenerife and English laces being made and just confused the two. It's like the tatting lady who visits many a lace day telling her companions that the ladies sitting at their pillows are doing tatting. She comes here to the Costa Brava on her holidays quite often. Regards Jenny DeAngelis. Spain. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] RE:lace brochure
Hi Jenny, What a wonderful opportunity to spread the word :-) A brochure is a great idea, and if there was more time, I'd mail you a copy of our brochure for ideas. The RMLG has a nice tri-fold brochure (currently under revision) that includes a potted history of lace, with a brief description or bobbin and needle laces and tatting, with a photo of each, and a very brief description of other main laces - knitted, crocheted, embroidered/decorated net, tape lace (like battenberg). It includes contact details of the Guild with a tear off page that can be returned to the Guild with a request to join or just go on the mailing list. It's good to include contacts for the National and State groups, and you may also want to include a web address for the ALG. Good luck with the Show and the demoing. Cheers, Helen, Aussie in Denver - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] curious and curiouser- scholars comment please
What do you think Lewis Carroll was talking about in the poem when referring to the lace making beaver, he said: Though the Barrister tried to appeal to its pride And vainly proceeded to cite A number of cases, in which making laces Had been proved an infringement of right I'm supposing that there might be some word play intended with "fringe" but I think there must be more to it than that. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] A successful demonstration
The question Jenny asked about a brochure to accompany the lace display has prodded me to write up what those of us involved agreed was a very successful demonstration last weekend at Seattles Nordic Heritage Museum Tivoli Festival. Perhaps this will be useful to others planning lace displays or demonstrations. For display, we had a couple of notebooks with examples of our workthese were just the notebooks the other demonstrator and I have kept of samples of the various laces we have made, in page protectors and backed with colored paper to see them clearly. In mine, I also included colored photographs and scans of lace Ive made, and pictures of more Tønder lace from Lacefairys website (credited!), plus a little write-up about Danish lace (since it was the Tivoli (Danish) festival). We printed out copies of our groups brochure, a tri-fold that includes contact information, meeting information, a membership form, and two columns with pictures and brief descriptions of bobbin lace, tatting, and needle lace, and a mention of knitted, crocheted, and other laces. (Hmm--perhaps this brochure can be made available as a download on our webpage?) We also printed out flyers for our Lace Day in August. The two of us brought pillows to demonstrate, and I set up opposite sides of a very large pillow as a two-station have-a-go pillow. In the past, Ive tried the bandage, a snake, and a braided-and-beaded bracelet. Theyve all been moderately successful, but I really have always wanted people to be able to take away something completed to remind them, and these projects just take longer than most people have in this sort of venue; even when there is someone who takes the time to finish, it means nobody else can take a turn. So I took Sue Babbs fish idea. Basically, I beheaded the snake! I wound plenty of colorful Perle 8 bobbins, leaving half of the bobbins empty to complete quick pairs. (For the initial two fish, I had the pairs hung on and ready to go, so the first two people didnt get to choose colors.) Those fish proved wildly popular! We had to institute a sign-up sheet to keep track of all the people who wanted a turn. The second day, I squeezed three stations onto the pillow, and re-drew the fish as a guppy (or maybe a neon tetra), with 12 rows total, to reduce the time required to make it. (This smaller fish took between 30 and 45 minutes for most people). We sent home at least 15 fish with proud owners in the 7 hours total we were there (4 on Saturday, 3 on Sunday). Two very interested people, a boy about 9 or 10 and a girl about 13 or 14, requested to make a second, and were willing to wait for others to take turns, first! I seized the opportunity and showed them how to make half-stitch fish. Both grasped it quickly. While I was kept too busy helping with fish to demonstrate on my pillow, my partner-in-crime was kept busy answering questions about the beautiful point ground she was demonstrating. I think the buzz around the fish attracted people to her, and fascination with her work interested people in the fish. Mostly, adults hung back and let children and young people make fish, while they observed Robertas lacemaking. One other lady from our group showed up unexpectedly with the nearby weavers, and she was able to demonstrate tatting on request. I think it was helpful to have both parts of this. Had I been doing it alone, I couldnt have both demonstrated and helped with the fish. The fish alone wouldnt have been enough to help people understand what bobbin lace is about, but the demonstrating alone doesnt let people actually feel the process. Id like to have had more adults try the fish, but they didnt want to take the opportunity away from the kids. Maybe designating an adults only station would have encouraged them? I also learned that three fish was probably the maximum I could effectively supervise alone. As it was, there were several times when a child was kept waiting for my help while I helped another get started. More supervisors would have helped. Having them all on the same pillow made it easy to glance over to see who might be in trouble, and didnt seem to cause much difficulty, but it did require a very large pillow to be able to do it this way. I think this demonstration was very successful; we hope it will yield new lacers for our group, but even if that doesnt happen immediately, weve raised the awareness of lace in more minds. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] COMPUTER DRAFTING IL Soft
I emailed Ian this morning about the lack of demo link and he put it up straight away, along with a couple of the patch files. Sue - Original Message - From: "Ruth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "arachne" Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [lace] COMPUTER DRAFTING That's odd, as I just went directly to the page with the download available. The address is http://www.ilsoft.co.uk/content.aspx?page=demos And I'm downloading the demo right now. Hope it helps. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] a successful demonstration
Hello Julie and others: Well done on the demonstration...it sounds like it was a huge success. It helps to be as organized as you were and the fish project is something that both boys and girls will try. Your lace group is always a pleasure to visit, I hope to visit again soon and I hope you get some new members interested. I think the fish is a great idea, I will remember it the next time I demo, the bandage gets boring real fast... Irene Whitham still inspired from the class Julie and I attended recently ;o) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Mainly Lace
A long time ago, I bought a booklet called "fantasy Flowers in Bobbin Lace" by Pat and Brian. It states that it is copyright 1998 Mainly Lace. Does anyone know if this book is sold or whether "Mainly Lace" still exists? I have tried their email address on the Arachne suppliers page, but it is no longer functional. I can't access the Lace Guild's website to see if Mainly Lace are listed on there. NB - this is not the same book as Rosemary Shepard's Fantasy Flowers which I also own. Sue [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] curiouser and curiouser - Stillwell info
In a message dated 7/12/06 12:05:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > He looks to me as though he is working a strange form of Tenerife lace, you > > place the pins in the pad and then wind the thread around them, I think you > then sew over and under those threads to hold them in place and create the > design, something like that though I have never worked tenerife lace. > Sandra Stilwell, who is an expert at Tenerife lace, taught me to make > bobbin lace at classes in Essex. in the early 1980s. She used to bring > pieces of Tenerife to the classes at times and I believe she wrote a book or > > two on the subject. > For anyone interested: Alexandra Stillwell "The Technique of Teneriffe Lace" Publisher - Branford in Watertown, Mass. USA ISBN 08231-5056-9 1980 2 other books by this British author: "Cassell Illustrated Dictionary of Lacemaking" 0-304-34145-2 1996 "Drafting Torchon Lace Patterns" Dryad 0-8521-9627X 1986 Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace & Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Shetland Museum website
I filled in the web form at the www.shetland.gov.uk website and asked about the Shetland Museum site. And I just received the following reply: "Both sites should be available now. I have heard back from the Amenity Trust webteam (who are responsible for the Shetland Museum website) and they should be getting something sorted this week. I have told them the Shetland Islands Council are still hosting the site, if they want to re-direct back to us till they get sorted, which I think they are going to do, so their site should be back up in the next 24hrs. Michael Coutts Network Analyst Computer Centre Garthspool Road Lerwick" I did have to do a forced refresh (Ctrl-F5) to clear my cache of the "page unavailable" messages. But here again is the root site: http://www.shetland-museum.org.uk/ and the URL for the textile collection: http://www.shetland-museum.org.uk/collections/textiles/textiles.htm Use the pull-down menus (where it says "Textiles Menu") to view pages on Shetland lace knitting, as well as Fair Isle knitting, Shetland wool, and Shetland sheep. Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA alwen at i2k dot com http://lost-arts.blogspot.com/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Mainly Lace
Thanks for all the answers - and so promptly. I didn't think of looking in "Lace" - silly me!!! Sue - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] COMPUTER DRAFTING
Ruth, I think that's because you probably were the first person to use Ian's revamped website!! The email before yours was from Ian, and read as follows: "Hi Ruth Thanks for the email. I have now updated the website to include a menu item at the top of the page which leads to a demo page where the demo of Lace 2000 can be found." Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ruth Sent: 13 July 2006 01:15 To: arachne Subject: Re: [lace] COMPUTER DRAFTING That's odd, as I just went directly to the page with the download available. The address is http://www.ilsoft.co.uk/content.aspx?page=demos And I'm downloading the demo right now. Hope it helps. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] curious and curiouser- scholars comment please
Martin Gardner sadly makes no comment on this in his "Annotated Snark" - I personally think the wordplay on "lace" and "fringe" is a good enough pun in itself. I like the two lines above this stanza, too: But the Beaver went on making lace, and displayed No interest in the concern: Typical lacemaker, it's got better things to occupy itself with (Carroll never specifies whether the beaver is male or female, although I think it's female - it seems to be the only intelligent one in the crew, to go on making lace while everyone else prances about, and it's the only one of the crew who partners up with someone). Noelene in Cooma [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nlafferty/ > > What do you think Lewis Carroll was talking about in the poem when referring > to the lace making beaver, he said: > > Though the Barrister tried to appeal to its pride > And vainly proceeded to cite > A number of cases, in which making laces > Had been proved an infringement of right > > I'm supposing that there might be some word play intended with "fringe" but > I think there must be more to it than that. > > Devon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re:Lily of The Valley and introduction
Hello: My name is Karen Maki and I've been following the list for a while now. I joined during a very busy time in my life and since then - well I'm a quiet person by nature. I'll try hard to speak up when I feel I have something of offer or when I need help. I just hope I've managed to post this message correctly . Anyway, the reason I'm replying is that there is a lovely bouquet of lace flowers in "New Design in Bobbin Lace" by Ann Collier.(ISBN 0 7134 4215 8) The bouquet is attributed to Jean Spindlow, who I understand was a student of Ann Colliers at the time.(1987) There are patterns and working notes for many of the flowers - roses, tulips,orchids and something called Snowdrops. The patterns for the orchids were drafted for pressed bits of the flowers. I can't imagine doing that with Lily of the Valley. Good luck with your hunt. Karen Maki Toronto, Ontario Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] curious and curiouser- scholars comment please
What do you think Lewis Carroll was talking about in the poem when referring to the lace making beaver, he said: Though the Barrister tried to appeal to its pride And vainly proceeded to cite A number of cases, in which making laces Had been proved an infringement of right I'm supposing that there might be some word play intended with "fringe" but I think there must be more to it than that. Devon Not a scholar -- haven't even read the Annotated that Noelene mentioned -- but my early Marxist indoctrination would suggest the following argument: 1) All the crew is lower and middle class (from Boots and Bellman through Butcher and Baker to Barrister and Broker. I wonder if there's any significance in all those Bs ? ), and they're hunting for a Snark, whose description is suspiciously like that of an aristocrat (see the end of the Fit the Second) 2) In their common pursuit, they not only forgo some of their natural animosities, but engage in labours that are outside their usual area: The Boots and the Broker were sharpening a spade— Each working the grindstone in turn: Not all of them, however: But the Beaver went on making lace, and displayed No interest in the concern: The Beaver not only doesn't participate in the grunt work; he (I doubt it's a she; there seeem to be no "she-s" on that ship. OTOH, I could, probably, cobble up an argument to the contrary, too ) continues with his normal work. And it's work that produces something rather frivolous. So, has he sold out to the other side? Is his commitment to the hunting of the Snark serious? Perhaps it needs some bolstering? That's when we get the stanza that Devon's asking about: Though the Barrister tried to appeal to its pride, And vainly proceeded to cite A number of cases, in which making laces Had been proved an infringement of right. 3) If we assume 1 & 2, then the reference is, probably... to the sumptuary laws, which didn't allow the lower and middle classes to wear laces, infringing on their right to do so, even supposing that some of them could afford to (obviously, the Butcher isn't short a bob) And yes, the juxtopposition of "laces" and "infringement" (play on "fringe") feeds into it -- cleverly -- as well. If you go back to the description of Snarks, you'll find that they do not like puns... :) -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
