Re: [lace] bobbin lace bag

2010-05-20 Thread Beth Marshall
This bag certainly looks very similar to the one on Christiane's blog - I don't 
know if there's a 
video of it anywhere, but the slideshow photo-instructions are still there on:

http://dentelledechristiane.over-blog.com/album-248874.html

The text is in French, but I have an English translation of it to use with the 
slideshow - email me 
privately if you would like a copy.

Beth
(b...@capuchin.co.uk)
enjoying the sudden warmth in Cheshire, NW England

On Thursday 20 May 2010, you wrote:
 Has anyone seen this posting on youtube? I haven't been able to find out
  any info on getting one or the pattern to make one. Anyone have any leads?
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IoPTlVQOWk
 
 
 MariCarmen in Minnesota
 
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[lace] bobbin lace bag

2010-05-20 Thread Jean Nathan
This is a more complicated and comprehensive variation of the travel pillow 
that many of us have made.. Must admit that, having spent a long time making 
a roller-pillow-in-a-bag with integrated pin cushion and tool container, 
I've never actually used it.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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RE: [lace] bobbin lace bag

2010-05-20 Thread Noelene Lafferty
After spending some time making up a travel pillow, it sits gather dust on a
shelf.

I prefer my simple small 5 block pillow - two long blocks each side, three
removable centre blocks (plus a couple of spares) made of insulation foam,
which fits comfortably in a small carry bag with handles, into which I can
shove a few more tools, a book and bits and pieces.

Noelene in Cooma
nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au
Must admit that, having spent a long time making
 a roller-pillow-in-a-bag with integrated pin cushion and tool container,
 I've never actually used it.
 Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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Re: [lace] bobbin lace bag

2010-05-20 Thread Diane Z
A note to those who may be contemplating making a portable pillow.  I  
made one that was quite functional, but didn't take into consideration  
balancing it on my lap.  Since I ride the bus a bit (with no table)  
the box bottom was to narrow and shifted about from side to side and  
wanted to rest a corner between my legs.  The tilt didn't work out too  
well for good tension. :)  The next bag is going to fit across my  
knees.  I've been thinking about some pull outs to make a broader  
base, put that may overdo it.  Anyone with any suggestions?


Diane Z
Lubec, Maine


On May 20, 2010, at 3:40 AM, Jean Nathan wrote:

This is a more complicated and comprehensive variation of the travel  
pillow that many of us have made.. Must admit that, having spent a  
long time making a roller-pillow-in-a-bag with integrated pin  
cushion and tool container, I've never actually used it.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK
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Re: [lace] bobbin lace bag

2010-05-20 Thread Susan Reishus
First you would need some weight, or to anchor it.  Things like drapery
weights (essentially large washers would be of some help.  They could be
contained within stitched squares (at least in the corners) with plastic
needlepoint mesh for the core, and fabric surround (and perhaps with very thin
batt or flannel as interlayer).  Then shove it into the bottom, as you would
want to remove it for washing, or make a zippered closing and you can add or
remove weights, as desired.
I would suggest you consider one or two elastic anchors at the bottom corners,
that would go around your leg/thigh.  Since many women wear pants/slacks, it
shouldn't be a problem, other than a crease or two (and you can make a tuck in
them to alleviate some of that).  Grosgrain ribbon (perhaps two layers) with D
rings would make for something adjustable too, or merging the elastic with the
ribbon may work best.
Hope this helps,Susan Reishus 
...(made) portable pillow...didn't take into consideration balancing it on my
lap...box bottom was too narrow and shifted about from side to side...Anyone
with any suggestions?  Diane Z

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[lace] Re: Travel Pillow

2010-05-20 Thread Susan Reishus
making up a travel pillow, it sits  gather dust...I prefer my simple small 5
block pillow Noelene

I have to say, that I loved the nuances and design detail of the Spanish
pillow on YouTube.  I have created this kind of thing for other uses, but the
bobbin tote was even more involved (perhaps too much so, for the average sewer
and bobbin lace makers would perhaps prefer to spend that kind of time,
actually making lace).
I am reminded of when my son was little, long ago, he had tons of Lego's, and
I got sick of picking them up and stepping on them.  I made a huge circle (it
was between 60-72 wide), with a drawstring at the outer edge.  He had to play
on that mat, and when done, we could just pull the string on two sides and all
was contained.
I don't see why you couldn't just make a large circle of a lovely fabric and
do the same thing with your bobbin lace project, adjusting the circumference
to your needs.  Your cover cloth should protect your work, and you would
contain your bobbins as per usual, then a circle could fit fairly closely but
not too taut, or a square could be velcroed and have grosgrain handles.  It
would be a quick and inexpensive solution, when on the run.  Then you can take
whatever project you have on the pillow within seconds.
It isn't that different in principle, than a casserole cover/carry/tote,
except you may not feel you need to contain the heat or cold.  A single layer
of fabric would suffice, and if you think it would get bumped or want to
protect your bobbins, etc., you could run a layer of batt interlayer between
two fabrics, according to your wants/needs.
Best,Susan Reishus

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Re: [lace] bobbin lace bag (now bobbin holders)

2010-05-20 Thread Susan Reishus
Beth shared:http://dentelledechristiane.over-blog.com/album-248874.html
Now what I like about that pic, is what appears to be crocheted bobbin holders
(like a crocheted ladder or entredeux)?  I haven't seen that before, tho' it
is perhaps common to most of you.
That could be a pretty cool thing to make with some fairly stretchy yarn (with
lots of twist or Fixation which is cotton with spandex).
Has anyone made these?
Best,Susan Reishus(who has got to go get something done, other than email!)
 LOL

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Re: [lace] bobbin lace bag (now bobbin holders)

2010-05-20 Thread Beth Marshall
I like them crocheted out of shirring elastic (the very narrow round elastic). 
They're just a strip 
of double (or treble if your bobbins have big heads) crochet (English stitch 
names - I can't 
remember which way to adjust for American terminology) -very easy to make.

Beth
in Cheshire, NW England


On Thursday 20 May 2010, you wrote:
 Beth shared:http://dentelledechristiane.over-blog.com/album-248874.html
 Now what I like about that pic, is what appears to be crocheted bobbin
  holders (like a crocheted ladder or entredeux)?  I haven't seen that
  before, tho' it is perhaps common to most of you.
 That could be a pretty cool thing to make with some fairly stretchy yarn
  (with lots of twist or Fixation which is cotton with spandex).
 Has anyone made these?
 Best,Susan Reishus(who has got to go get something done, other than email!)
  LOL
 
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Re: [lace] bobbin lace bag

2010-05-20 Thread bev walker
This is exciting! I did try a bit of a google, myself, with one of the
French words for lace pillow, the only one I could think of was 'coussin'
(cushion) and I did get a few interesting sites, but not what I was looking
for...should have remembered un carreau  !

I for one am glad to see this site is still up. It is a neat unit. Probably
would stay in storage more than I would use it, the chance to use pretty
fabrics appeals. From time to time, one has to make another lace pillow for
oneself, a satisfying harmless indulgence g.

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 12:29 AM, Beth Marshall b...@capuchin.co.uk wrote:

 This bag certainly looks very similar to the one on Christiane's blog - I
 don't know if there's a
 video of it anywhere, but the slideshow photo-instructions are still there
 on:

 http://dentelledechristiane.over-blog.com/album-248874.html


-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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Re: Re: [lace] Re: Travel Pillow

2010-05-20 Thread lacelady
 For a large pillow, one square yard is not big enough.  Most fabrics in
the USA are about 45 inches wide, so buy 45 inches (1-1/4 yd) to make
your Carry Cloth.  I use these a lot.  I like to use batik fabric because
it's pretty on both sides so I can use either side up.

Alice in Oregon -- where it's raining all week, and the roofers are
waiting for a clear day to start my new roof.

May 20, 2010 08:22:57 AM, drswilli...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Using Susan's same basic principle:
  In a pinch when I don't have a pillow bag or want to be sure to
  carry my
  pillow flat I will take a large (1 yard) square of fabric and set
  the pillow in
  the middle.  Then I tie the opposite corners together and carry it
  by holding
  onto the knots.  It works surprisingly well.
   Diane Williams /elationrela t...@yahoo.com

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Re: [lace] bobbin lace bag

2010-05-20 Thread Lorri Ferguson
I have a similar one and it is in use all the time.  I have a basic yardage
pattern on it and take it to most demos.  I have made yards of lace in this
manner.  I just cut off what I want to use and continue on.
Mine does not have the block insert, but I don't think I would ever use that.

Lorri



  This is a more complicated and comprehensive variation of the travel pillow
  that many of us have made.. Must admit that, having spent a long time making
  a roller-pillow-in-a-bag with integrated pin cushion and tool container,
  I've never actually used it.

  Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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[lace] block pillow idea

2010-05-20 Thread bev walker
Just looking at Christiane's instructions, reminded me of a cool thing
someone did with their block pillow, that one of the blocks is a lidded tool
box. The lid is a flap, so that the box fits in the block space.

-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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Re: [lace] bobbin lace bag (now bobbin holders)

2010-05-20 Thread Elizabeth Shipp
When I first started bobbin lace, I crocheted one of those... I used acrylic
rather than elastic (I like the sound of elastic!), so what I did was chain
a bunch, work a row of single crochet, work a row of maybe 2sc, chain, 2 sc,
chain, etc, then a row of single crochet and finish.

Best regards
Elizabeth

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Susan Reishus elationrelat...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Beth shared:http://dentelledechristiane.over-blog.com/album-248874.html
 Now what I like about that pic, is what appears to be crocheted bobbin
 holders
 (like a crocheted ladder or entredeux)?  I haven't seen that before, tho'
 it
 is perhaps common to most of you.
 That could be a pretty cool thing to make with some fairly stretchy yarn
 (with
 lots of twist or Fixation which is cotton with spandex).
 Has anyone made these?
 Best,Susan Reishus(who has got to go get something done, other than email!)
  LOL

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Re: [lace] bobbin lace bag

2010-05-20 Thread The Lace Bee
I have one which is a roller pillow built onto a wooden box.  It sits neatly
on my lap when travelling.

Kind Regards

Liz Baker

thelace...@btinternet.com

--- On Thu, 20/5/10, Diane Z znee...@wwsisp.com wrote:


From: Diane Z znee...@wwsisp.com
Subject: Re: [lace] bobbin lace bag
To: Jean Nathan j...@nathan54.freeserve.co.uk
Cc: Lace lace@arachne.com
Date: Thursday, 20 May, 2010, 13:53


A note to those who may be contemplating making a portable pillow.  I made one
that was quite functional, but didn't take into consideration balancing it on
my lap.  Since I ride the bus a bit (with no table) the box bottom was to
narrow and shifted about from side to side and wanted to rest a corner between
my legs.  The tilt didn't work out too well for good tension. :)  The next bag
is going to fit across my knees.  I've been thinking about some pull outs to
make a broader base, put that may overdo it.  Anyone with any suggestions?

Diane Z
Lubec, Maine

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Re: [lace] bobbin lace bag

2010-05-20 Thread The Lace Bee
I've just been and checked the pillow was by Evelyn and Tony Brown of
Littledean, Glouc but if I remember rightly I bought at the Carshalton Lace
Fair in 1992 so they may not still be making pillows.
 
L

Kind Regards

Liz Baker

thelace...@btinternet.com

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From: The Lace Bee thelace...@btinternet.com
Subject: Re: [lace] bobbin lace bag
To: Lace lace@arachne.com
Date: Thursday, 20 May, 2010, 19:42


I have one which is a roller pillow built onto a wooden box.  It sits neatly
on my lap when travelling.

Kind Regards

Liz Baker

thelace...@btinternet.com

--- On Thu, 20/5/10, Diane Z znee...@wwsisp.com wrote:


From: Diane Z znee...@wwsisp.com
Subject: Re: [lace] bobbin lace bag
To: Jean Nathan j...@nathan54.freeserve.co.uk
Cc: Lace lace@arachne.com
Date: Thursday, 20 May, 2010, 13:53


A note to those who may be contemplating making a portable pillow.  I made
one
that was quite functional, but didn't take into consideration balancing it on
my lap.  Since I ride the bus a bit (with no table) the box bottom was to
narrow and shifted about from side to side and wanted to rest a corner
between
my legs.  The tilt didn't work out too well for good tension. :)  The next
bag
is going to fit across my knees.  I've been thinking about some pull outs to
make a broader base, put that may overdo it.  Anyone with any suggestions?

Diane Z
Lubec, Maine

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Re: [lace] bobbin lace bag

2010-05-20 Thread Delores Miller
Could you please tell us the dimenions of your pillow and the sise of the 
blocks.  It sounds like one I could make.  Thanks, Delores
- Original Message - 
From: Noelene Lafferty nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au

To: 'Lace' lace@arachne.com
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:13 AM
Subject: RE: [lace] bobbin lace bag


After spending some time making up a travel pillow, it sits gather dust on 
a

shelf.

I prefer my simple small 5 block pillow - two long blocks each side, three
removable centre blocks (plus a couple of spares) made of insulation foam,
which fits comfortably in a small carry bag with handles, into which I can
shove a few more tools, a book and bits and pieces.

Noelene in Cooma
nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au
Must admit that, having spent a long time making

a roller-pillow-in-a-bag with integrated pin cushion and tool container,
I've never actually used it.
Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK


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[lace] Possible lace bobbin

2010-05-20 Thread Nancy Neff
yet another possible lace bobbin on ebay: # 130391486006

It is asymmetrical so it doesn't seem quite right to be a roller for straight 
lace. Is that what it is?

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

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Re: [lace] Re: Travel Pillow

2010-05-20 Thread Carol
What a good idea to put a drawtape around the edges!I sometimes put my 
round pillows in the centre of a tablecloth (size of table cloth depends on 
size of pillow ...) then just knot the opposite corners on the top, and cart 
the pillows around holding the knots.   I do have some lovely pillow bags 
too, and I do think they are easier than the tablecloths, but I have too 
many pillows, and not enough pillow bags to take them all ...   However, I 
am also a bit of a 'belt and braces' person where bobbins and pillows are 
concerned, so I always anchor my bobbins down with wide elastic, and many 
glass-topped pins, just in case.   And for the same security reasons, and 
because I 'have pillow, will travle' and am always toddling off to 
demonstrate, I also anchor my thread to the bobbins with a slip knot, so 
that if the bobbins do run, they don't come adrift from the threads!


Carol - Suffolk UK
'Deliver us, Lord, from every evil, and grant us peace in our day.'

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From: Susan Reishus elationrelat...@yahoo.com

To: post to Arachne lace@arachne.com
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:05 PM
Subject: [lace] Re: Travel Pillow


I made a huge circle (it
was between 60-72 wide), with a drawstring at the outer edge. He had to 
play
on that mat, and when done, we could just pull the string on two sides and 
all

was contained.
I don't see why you couldn't just make a large circle of a lovely fabric 
and
do the same thing with your bobbin lace project, adjusting the 
circumference
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Re: [lace] Re: Travel Pillow

2010-05-20 Thread Barb ETx
On this thread I used to have a pillow carrier that was not much more 
then a strip of pleated cloth.  Lay pillow in center, pick up banded ends 
and the material folded in on the pillow.  Very nice.

I can't even remember who gave it to me..and THAT is unusual.

I loaned it out and never got it back...and I had not made a copy.  Dumb me 
and THAT is also unusual.


Anyone familiar with this style..no pockets or 'stuff', but very handy. 
It would safely hold  any pillow,  any  shape from about 14 o a 24.

BarbE
Rockwall, TX 


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Re: [lace] Possible lace bobbin

2010-05-20 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Could it be part of a broken midlands bobbin?  The main shank but minus the 
neck, head and spangle.

 yet another possible lace bobbin on ebay: # 130391486006
 
 It is asymmetrical so it doesn't seem quite right to be a roller for straight 
 lace. Is that what it is?
 

Brenda in Allhallows
www.brendapaternoster.me.uk

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Re: [lace] Possible lace bobbin

2010-05-20 Thread bev walker
It looks fat enough to be a handle.
Another anonymous interesting tool thing!

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Brenda Paternoster 
paternos...@appleshack.com wrote:

 Could it be part of a broken midlands bobbin?  The main shank but minus the
 neck, head and spangle.


-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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Re: [lace] bobbin lace bag (now bobbin holders)

2010-05-20 Thread Sue Duckles
From memory Beth, our dc (double crochet) is known as sc (single  
crochet) in America, and our treble is their double.


Sue in EY
On 20 May 2010, at 16:21, Beth Marshall wrote:

I like them crocheted out of shirring elastic (the very narrow round  
elastic). They're just a strip
of double (or treble if your bobbins have big heads) crochet  
(English stitch names - I can't
remember which way to adjust for American terminology) -very easy to  
make.


Beth
in Cheshire, NW England


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RE: [lace] bobbin lace bag

2010-05-20 Thread Noelene Lafferty
The pillow is 30 cm deep by 50 cm wide.  The two side blocks are each 20 cm
wide, and the three removable blocks down the middle are 10 cm by 10 cm.
If I was making one in imperial measurement, it would be 12 inches deep and
20 inches wide with 8 inch wide side blocks and 4 inch square removable
blocks. 

The wide side blocks (which are glued to a base of thin MDF board) allow
bobbins to be pushed to either side while working.  The lace you are working
on must be less than 10 cm, of course, but this is a travel or lap pillow
for bookmarks and straight strips (and corners).   To travel, the bobbins
are secured with a tie or knitting needle pins (or crocheted bobbin holders
for unspangled bobbins), which are in turned pinned to the pillow, a cover
cloth pinned over the lot and the entire thing slipped into one of those
reusable cloth grocery bags.

Noelene in Cooma
nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au

 Could you please tell us the dimenions of your pillow and the size of the
 blocks.  It sounds like one I could make.  Thanks, Delores

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[lace] Fwd: Bobbin lace carry pillow

2010-05-20 Thread KeithPinckney
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From: keithpinck...@comcast.net 
To: l...@dont.panix.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 6:55:13 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: Bobbin lace carry pillow 

Hello Lorri, 
I was interested in your reply regarding the carry bag for bobbin lace. You 
mention that you have basic yardage and pattern. Would you be willing to share 
the information for those of us who have never made one? I am getting really 
tired of carrying my large pillow with bolster! Also, someone, I don't remember 
who, mentioned not being able to carry bobbin lace on an airplane because of 
the pins and scissors. I take mine on planes all the time. I use fingernail 
clippers instead of scissors and the pins haven't been a problem going through 
security. Is this a situation only on domestic flights in the US? Is this a 
problem for international flights? I was planning to take my lace to Europe 
from the US this summer. I do not, however, want to have it confiscated 
somewhere on route or not be able to carry it on for the return flight. Any 
information would be very much appreciated. 
Thank you to everyone for the wonderful responses! 
MariCarmen 
Minnesota, USA 

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[lace] Demonstrating at Lincoln Log Cabin

2010-05-20 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
That looks like a very soggy weekend, Mark. What an interesting place,
though.  Loved looking at the photos.

And your lace looks Very Nice, too.

Regards from Liz in Melbourne
lizl...@bigpond.com

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