[lace] Silk thread

2011-09-06 Thread Jean Nathan

More information on what I'm asking.

I remembered that I'd bought three Victorian miser purse patterns from 
Dakota Prairie Treasures.com, reprinted from old publications for SCA 
enthusiasts. Two of those call for purse silk, the other for crochet silk. 
With them are equivalence charts for crochet stitches, knitting yarns and 
needles, and crochet threads and hooks. Of course there's no equivalent for 
purse silk or crochet silk, but there is an explanation of crochet silk:


"A hard twisted silk,used for knitting and crochet. The sizes vary from 1 to 
5; the latter being the finest. Nos. 1, 2 and 3 are the most common Observe, 
there is an immense difference both in the quality and price of crochet 
silk. Some work into a substance with scarcely any more gloss than cotton. 
In all respectable Berlin houses, the maker's name is attached to every 
skein. Pearsall's silks hold a high position, both for quality and tint."


The hook and needle sizes used in the patterns are:

Size 18 knitting needles, which seem to be 1.25 mm thick
crochet hook no.17 (Walkers bell gauge) - probably around 0.75 mm
Boulton's indented crochet hook No.23 - who knows what modern size that is!

Modern doll patterns seems to use size 40 and 80 crochet thread with size 17 
and 18 knitting needles.


So I don't think that modern knitting silk would be the correct thickness. 
Probably the thickness would be one of those we use for lacemaking. Brenda, 
can you suggest wraps per inch for that size of knitting needle/crochet 
hook?


I've found one of the patterns I bought is on the web for free on several 
sites, one being:


http://www.allfreecrafts.com/crochet/bridal-purse.shtml

I'm thinking that this type of purse (misers) could be made as lace. A few 
ideas are forming.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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RE: [lace] AHA!!! moments

2011-09-06 Thread Karen Zammit Manduca
..and when things like this happen to me I just feel like kicking myself
and saying, "Why have I wasted so much time - why didn't I see it before!!!"
Karen in Malta

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Oh!

I hitchhiked on your aha moment and went right to the pillow where I have a
strip of the saddest looking Archways you could ever want to see. Half
spiders - of course! They suddenly became easy, even and lovely.

Thanks for the "ride", Peg. =)

Sr. Claire
[...]

> >I've
> been making practice strips of various Milanese braids. I was working on
> >the
> Archway pattern, which I had attempted last year and failed miserably at.
> >Looked at it again this past week, and realized it's a half spider.
Piece
> of
> >cake![...]
>

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Re: [lace] AHA!!! moments

2011-09-06 Thread David C COLLYER

At 05:13 AM 6/09/2011, Nancy Neff wrote:

How nice to hear of your AHA moment,


I had a big AHAAA moment yesterday of a different kind when I 
cut the point ground while trimming off some ends. Mum would have 
rolled over in her grave if she'd heard me!!


David in Ballarat

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Re: [lace] AHA!!! moments

2011-09-06 Thread Sue Duckles

So definitely an oops then David??

Sue in EY
On 6 Sep 2011, at 15:07, David C COLLYER wrote:


At 05:13 AM 6/09/2011, Nancy Neff wrote:

How nice to hear of your AHA moment,


I had a big AHAAA moment yesterday of a different kind when  
I cut the point ground while trimming off some ends. Mum would have  
rolled over in her grave if she'd heard me!!


David in Ballarat


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Re: [lace] Silk thread

2011-09-06 Thread Sue Duckles
Hi All

I seem to remember that the old 'lace' crochet hooks used the same  
gauge as knitting needles which would make this size a 0.6mm  
hook

Sue in East Yorkshire
On 6 Sep 2011, at 10:57, Jean Nathan wrote:
>
> Boulton's indented crochet hook No.23 - who knows what modern size  
> that is!

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[lace] Looking for pattern - Belgian?

2011-09-06 Thread Ann-Marie Andersson
The pattern I asked about yesterday seems to be Belgian and designed by
Annemarie Verbeke-Billiet.
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2365535230048870129tQrFqf

Maybe it was published in a Kant magazine? I would be very grateful for any
information how to get it.

Regards
Ann-Marie Andersson
Sweden

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[lace] Spider Machine Embroidery Patterns

2011-09-06 Thread Vickie McKinney
For those of you who own an embroidery sewing machine, the Cute Alphabet
site has a free spider alphabet for site members today. The link to the
alphabet is as follows:
http://www.cutealphabets.com/706806/Spider-font.html. The site link is
http://www.cutealphabets.com/. In order to download the files, you have to
become a member, which is free.

Vickie McKinney
Colorado Springs, Colorado USA

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Re: [lace] Silk thread

2011-09-06 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Everybody:

> Can anyone tell me what "purse silk" or "purse twist" is? From what I have
managed to glean from the web, it appears to be three ply silk with a high
sheen and thicknesses quoted are 300 and 500, or numbers to that effect.

Just his morning it hit me where I'd seen the term "purse silk". It was to do
with a pattern I bought once to knit a beaded purse. The company that made
that pattern sells "3-count" and "5-count" rayon (i.e. "artificial silk" or
"art silk") in a couple of dozen different colours on its website:
http://swallowhillcreations.com/category/rayon/5-wt/

Hope this helps.

Adele
North Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)

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Re: [lace] Looking for pattern - Belgian?

2011-09-06 Thread bev walker
Hello Ann-Marie
I have an issue of Kant with a pattern similar to the one you are
looking for, shown on the cover of Kant, June 2010, No. 2. It is an
edging for a round mat, with the tulip motifs, designed by Anne-Marie
Verbeke-Billiet, 2008.
They also have it illustrated as a fan.
Does this help?

On 9/6/11, Ann-Marie Andersson  wrote:
> The pattern I asked about yesterday seems to be Belgian and designed by
> Annemarie Verbeke-Billiet.
> http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2365535230048870129tQrFqf
>
> Maybe it was published in a Kant magazine? I would be very grateful for any
> information how to get it.

-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west
coast of Canada

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Re: [lace] AHA!!! moments

2011-09-06 Thread bev walker
An AHRGH

We are allowed. LOLOL.

On 9/6/11, Sue Duckles  wrote:
> So definitely an oops then David??
>
> Sue in EY
> On 6 Sep 2011, at 15:07, David C COLLYER wrote:

>> I had a big AHAAA moment yesterday of a different kind when
>> I cut the point ground while trimming off some ends. Mum would have
>> rolled over in her grave if she'd heard me!!
>>

-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west
coast of Canada

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[lace] Silk Thread

2011-09-06 Thread Jean Nathan

Thank you Adele for that site.

My thought to make a misers purse in bobbin lace was possibly as another 
wedding item a bit different to a horseshoe, garter or hankie.


If a dress has a belt, the purse is tucked under it so that the belt passed 
over the thin part where the opening is with the two "bag" parts hanging 
from under and over the belt. Thought it  could look rather attractive in 
white silk, possibly with a bit of pale blue, with small pearls or crystal 
beads instead of the more usual seed or cut steel beads used for this type 
of purse.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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Re: [lace] Silk thread

2011-09-06 Thread Bob Ross
Here is another source for silk.  The business is in the process of  
changing hands but I'm sure they will have the same product.


http://www.treenwaysilks.com/index.html


On 6-Sep-11, at 10:07 AM, Adele Shaak wrote:


Hi Everybody:

Can anyone tell me what "purse silk" or "purse twist" is? From what  
I have
managed to glean from the web, it appears to be three ply silk with  
a high
sheen and thicknesses quoted are 300 and 500, or numbers to that  
effect.


Just his morning it hit me where I'd seen the term "purse silk". It  
was to do
with a pattern I bought once to knit a beaded purse. The company  
that made
that pattern sells "3-count" and "5-count" rayon (i.e. "artificial  
silk" or

"art silk") in a couple of dozen different colours on its website:
http://swallowhillcreations.com/category/rayon/5-wt/

Hope this helps.

Adele
North Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)

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[lace] another one

2011-09-06 Thread Laurie Waters
Also looking for information on the Watlington Lace Day, held last year on 
September 25th. Thanks!

Laurie
http://lacenews.net 


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[lace] missing lace days

2011-09-06 Thread Laurie Waters
Last year I put up a notice on LaceNews about the Willow Lace Circle Lace 
day (Sept 11, 2010). Can't find any information about one this year, does 
anyone know anything?

Also looking for details on Thames Estuary Lace day, to be held 9/24/11
and the Value of Belvoir lace day also to be held 9/24/11.
Thanks!
Laurie
http://lacenews.net 


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[lace] Lace Day - Portland Lace Society

2011-09-06 Thread lacelady
The Portland (Oregon) Lace Society will have their annual Lace Day on October 
1st at the Sellwood Community Center from 10am till 3pm.

Anyone in the area that day is welcome to attend.  Contact me off the List if 
you need information.

Alice in Oregon -- where tomorrow we receive our new all-electric car.  DH will 
be in car heaven.

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