[lace] to Glue or not to glue?
I have been using a worker pair of gold rush on a bangle decoration for our tree, at the end I have tied it off, then created a long loop with the thread to hang onto the branch, ending with a knot and then knotted it again over the top. It looks tidy enough, but I am wondering if I ought to put a dab of pva glue to stop it fraying. At the moment I still have a couple of inches spare thread after the knot as I haven't yet trimmed it close to the knot. Any thoughts please. This is the first time I have used this particularly thread and dont want it to fall off my tree in the future Sue T Dorset UK www.hurwitzend.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] to Glue or not to glue?
The threads of this type that do fray don't normally fray beyond a knot - so if you have knotted the ends together, (and by the sounds of things you have done that twice!) you can trim the ends reasonably short as unless your knots come undone there is no danger of the bangle falling off the tree. If you do have threads that fray easily it will be quick to see - they unravel the same as the sewing across the top of a cat litter bag - so if you knot the individual ends below the frayed bit they won't fray further. Some of the chain metallics (eg Texere's Stardust) don't appear to fray at all. So, you shouldn't need the glue unless you want to stiffen the ornaments! In message 000801cc9182$7dafa1e0$aaabe00a@suescomputer, Sue hurwitz...@btinternet.com writes I have been using a worker pair of gold rush on a bangle decoration for our tree, Any thoughts please. This is the first time I have used this particularly thread and dont want it to fall off my tree in the future -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Glue?
Subject: [lace] to Glue or not to glue? Just a warning about glue. If you decide to use glue please check that it will not affect your thread by trying a blob on some of the thread and leaving it for a couple of days. Some glues will destroy threads, deteriorate, alter the colour of threads or change colour themselves and sometimes these effects can take a long time. I once used glue on a box I was making as recommended by an 'expert', only to find it went bright orange and ruined the item within a couple of years. I now distrust glues and find alternative methods for finishing off. No modern glue has been around long enough for us to know the long-term effects. Except for short-term projects, and my lace does not come into this category, I prefer to to avoid them. Why not make a tassel at the end of your threads? Have fun with your bangles Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Lace SWAT Team poster?
Hello All! Thanks Mark--loved the art work. I've printed one to make into a small poster, properly attributed of course! Is there a licensing fee? Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Demo 2 cents
I agree on the less toted the better, maybe that's why I tot tatting/needle lace everywhere. I have found with bobbin lace, however, that having something other than yardage or a hanky edge is best. In fact my group often has a little flat pillow with a snake bookmark on it for people to try out bobbin lace. This last July 4th weekend I demoed with a tape lace bunny that the kids just loved - one girl came back 5 times over the course of the day to see if it was done yet (not hardly). I also take my own chair. I know they often provide, but I'm short in stature and find that they usually have hard wood chairs where my feel can't touch the ground - thus cutting of circulations to my legs. If I'm staying more than 2 hours I haul out the fold-able captain's chair that's a perfect height for me. If I'm not comfortable I'm not happy sitting in the sun making lace and answering questions. RLD -- Flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. - Douglas Adams - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] to Glue or not to glue?
You could use fray check which is used frequently in sewing and quilting. I often but a dab of it on knots when tatting or finishing lace as well. It won't affect the thread colour. However, don't put a bit blob on as it does harden. Nita R.in Calgary just after our first frost with beautiful fall colour all around us. We normally have frost by the beginning of September. On 23-Oct-11, at 6:51 AM, Sue wrote: I have been using a worker pair of gold rush on a bangle decoration for our tree, at the end I have tied it off, then created a long loop with the thread to hang onto the branch, ending with a knot and then knotted it again over the top. It looks tidy enough, but I am wondering if I ought to put a dab of pva glue to stop it fraying. At the moment I still have a couple of inches spare thread after the knot as I haven't yet trimmed it close to the knot. Any thoughts please. This is the first time I have used this particularly thread and dont want it to fall off my tree in the future Sue T Dorset UK www.hurwitzend.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] to Glue or not to glue?
There exist, here in Germany, a glue specially for textile. I knew people using this for embroidery if necessary without any trouble so far. It's from Gütermann. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Moravia Supplies
Guys, Does anyone know of a supplier of Moravia in the UK. I'm after some patterns (the butterflies and pendants along with the fixings) as well as the super starch. Some years ago I bought some starch from Roseground but they don't seem to do it any more on their website. L Kind Regards Liz Baker thelace...@btinternet.com My chronicle of my bobbins can be found at my website: http://thelacebee.weebly.com/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Demo 2 cents
One of my biggest worries with demonstrating is the security of the equipment. Any time I set up a beginner's try out pillow I use low cost bobbins and not too many of them so if anything happens I'm not too upset. Back in the 90s there were a spate of thefts from lace days - people were coming in towards the end as shoppers and then wandering into the main halls where the lacemakers' pillows were laid out and unattended whilst they shopped and cut off the bobbins from the pillows. For many years (and if I'm honest even now) I was suspicious of any bobbin on sale where the thread was still on the neck. We did a quick tot up of the piece that I'm making now as to the cost and therefore the liabilty for removing it from hte house. Because it has 79 pairs I have used my best bobbins as these are the thin bone and ebony ones. At an average of £16 a bobbin with an average £4 spangle then just the cost of the bobbins would be £3160. Plus the cost of the pillow and pillow bag, and threads and pins - we think that if I'm being honest it's about £3,500 - because I've got some bobbins with £10 beads in the centre of the spangle (yes, I'm an idiot!!!). But what about the Posh Bag eqipment bag I've go with my spare threads, bobbins, pricker, scissors etc ... it just keeps going. My home insurance would not cover this cost. This is one of the reasons why, if I'm going from work to the lace group I will take my pillow and stuff out of the car and lock it in a cupboard at work to which only I have the key (plus in the hot weather there is no way I would leave wooden and bone bobbins in a hot car - way to go eh!). Yes the piece I'm working on is exceptional and no the norm but it is important that you understand the insurance implications of taking your lace out. L Kind Regards Liz Baker thelace...@btinternet.com My chronicle of my bobbins can be found at my website: http://thelacebee.weebly.com/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Moravia Supplies
Roseground usually has it or SMP. Daphne Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 17:02:33 +0100 From: thelace...@btinternet.com Subject: [lace] Moravia Supplies To: lace@arachne.com Guys, Does anyone know of a supplier of Moravia in the UK. I'm after some patterns (the butterflies and pendants along with the fixings) as well as the super starch. Some years ago I bought some starch from Roseground but they don't seem to do it any more on their website. L Kind Regards Liz Baker thelace...@btinternet.com My chronicle of my bobbins can be found at my website: http://thelacebee.weebly.com/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] to Glue or not to glue?
RE: You could use fray check which is used frequently in sewing and quilting. I often but a dab of it on knots when tatting or finishing lace as well. It won't affect the thread colour. However, don't put a bit blob on as it does harden. No, no. Fray check Does discolor. Use an acid free glue!! We can usually find acid free glue at a scrapbooking store. Jane O'Connor jjo...@sbcglobal.net New Lenox, IL USA Good friends are like stars, You don't always see them, but they are always there. - Original Message - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Glue
Hi, all the lace you see on my stall and web site have the knots glued with fray check. I have been doing it for 28 years with no discolouration. Though I was told years ago that USA Fray check id slightly different from the UK one. I don't know. I do know it is fine. However. Do not use the bottle to apply, Cut off the top, dip a bodkin in the glue and just touch the knot. Also do not use on silk as it takes forever to dry and finally don't use it on black as it seems to ever so slightly lighten the knot. I was at a show today in Tonbridge and a lady said I never talk on Arachne. I said I do. She said what name do I used, I said my name, Vivienne. Sfe sais Oh yes, I didn't know that was you! So in future, Vivienne/Presencia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] to Glue or not to glue?
Guttermans fabric glue is available from Hobbycraft in the UK, at the branch near Gatwick airport at least. That's where I buy it, but for some weird reason the staff all say they don't stock it and it's kept with the patchwork rulers and rotary cutters, not with the other glue. Pure serendipity I found it browsing one day a more than a year ago. And a month or so ago they still had it, and it was still not with glue. I got it as it's what the Spanish ladies in Spain used to mount their fans onto the stitcks. They were amazed I'd not heard of it. It's one that can be applied and then used as an iron on adhesive so it doesn't soak into the textile. I also suggested to Sue that she could melt the ends of the thread. A quick touch against an electric hotplate would do it. Jacquie in Lincolnshire - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] bucks point suggestions
Welcome back to your bobbins. I learned my basic Bucks from books and a video. Give it a try. Then when you have picked up the basics, John Hensel has an Intermediate Bucks DVD available, with Jean Leader as the teacher. http://www.henselproductions.com/index.html (Usual disclaimers...just a happy customer.) Alice in Oregon... where we had a nice, but a bit cool, day. Trees are starting to turn color. - Original Message - From: Jennifer Parker jchardpar...@gmail.com I live in Brisbane, Australia, and am not associated with any lace making groups here and I am really seeking the collective advice of this august group as to your recommendations for a dvd I can use to teach myself Bucks Point. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Re: demonstrating lace/NY (SWAT team logo)
That came out great, Mark! Noelene is our poet laureate and you're our artist. Is there a painting/drawing/graphics equivalent of poet laureate? Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com Tatman tat...@tat-man.net wrote: This just brought an interesting image in my head that I couldn't let go. So I drew up a LACE S.W.A.T. TEAM logo for your enjoyment: http://www.tat-man.net/LaceSWATTeam.jpg - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Transporting lace supplies, Demonstrating
jeria...@aol.com wrote: I always recommend not taking a large pillow that puts many bobbins and many hours of work at risk. And I recommend not taking one with a dense lace pattern. When you are demonstrating, the idea is to have people see the paths the threads take, and hold the interest of on-lookers. It is not to over-whelm people who have never seen lace being made. Remember to smile. Actually, I've had great interactions when I take my relatively large project to demonstrations. It has more than 50 pairs and is a torchon pattern of my own design. Torchon is a very structured, logical lace and great for demonstrations. People look at my pillow and at first are overhwelmed, but then I start my spiel. I point out that no matter how many are on my pillow, I'm only using 2 pairs at a time. I show how the pinholes define the pattern, that the hole that's farthest away from me is the next one to be worked. I show how the pairs to interact at that pin are the ones that come down from the left and down from the right. I do a stitch, then point out how I drop one pair and pick up the next, according to the pinholes. Now the pattern makes sense. Then I start on the stitches. I show them CT (very slow) and show what that looks like in the half-stitch trail; I then add another cross and show them a cloth stitch area and how that's just like woven fabric; then I add another twist and show them the fan worked with whole stitches (this is US terminology). By this time, most are nodding their heads, smiling, and going, Ah, I see! Most people go away intrigued with lacemaking and proud of themselves for understanding it. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Apologies - farmer John
My sincere apologies for Farmer John appearing on 'Lace- I had a few hiccups when sending it, and did not realise it had sent itself to Lace too. Maxine - in a lovely spring-like New Zealand, finally. I would rather walk with God in the dark than go alone in the light. Mary Gardiner Brainard My Blog: www.kiwimeskreations.blogspot.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace-chat] Places I have been
I have been in many places, but I've never been in Cahoots. Apparently, you can't go alone. You have to be in Cahoots with someone. I've also never been in Cognito. I hear no one recognizes you there. I have, however, been in Sane. They don't have an airport; you have to be driven there. I have made several trips there, thanks to my friends, family and work. I would like to go to Conclusions, but you have to jump, and I'm not too much on physical activity anymore. I have also been in Doubt. That is a sad place to go, and I try not to visit there too often. I've been in Flexible, but only when it was very important to stand firm. Sometimes I'm in Capable, and I go there more often as I'm getting older. One of my favorite places to be is in Suspense! It really gets the adrenalin flowing and pumps up the old heart! At my age I need all the stimuli I can get! Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003