RE: [lace] Fine pens

2013-11-23 Thread robinlace
 Jean Nathan jean...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: 
I use rOtring technical pens, around GBP8.50 (around $13) each so not a cheap
pen and intended for technical drawings. Guess I'm just ham-fisted.

Okay, if you're using a technical pen (the point is a metal cylinder with a 
wire that shakes up and down to clear out the drying India ink) and it's 
getting too broad too fast, it's probably how you're holding the pen.  
Technical pens were designed to be held exactly vertical while drawing.  If you 
tilt the pen they way you'd hold a pencil or regular pen, you will damage the 
cylinder's edge.  

Try it with a new crayon--it goes from a circular tip to an oval when you press 
hard while coloring.  If you keep moving the crayon around in your hand, you'll 
wear down all sides of the tip and make a dull, rounded tip.  But if you hold 
the crayon still in your hand it will wear at an angle and you'll have that 
ellipse of a point.  This is what happens with a technical pen.

Hope this helps.

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
robinl...@socal.rr.com

Parvum leve mentes capiunt
(Little things amuse little minds)

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[lace] prickings

2013-11-23 Thread Alex Stillwell
Hi Arachnids

When I learned patterned drafting with Pam Nottingham she reprimanded me when
I was drawing the guidelines in pen. She told me to ALWAYS draw in pencil
first in case you make a mistake and you can correct it easily at this stage.
Then trace over it in ink and, when the ink is dry, erase all the pencil lines
that could otherwise transfer to the lace and soil it. I have gratefully
followed her advice ever since.

I wonder where you got your heelball Maureen. Was it part of that box I got
from my local shoe mender? It was his last one tucked right at the back of the
shelf.

Happy lacemaking

Alex

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[lace] Heelball

2013-11-23 Thread Jean Nathan
I've got a stick of heelball from when I did my teacher training many, many
years ago. We had it for taking rubbings of tree bark, stone walls and other
textured surfaces. Could be useful in getting natural patterns as
inspiration for designing lace.

As for my pen thickening, I've concluded that it's because I don't have fine
feeling in my fingers, or hold it properly so I mash the point. My husband,
who was a draughtsman, tried it and just Well, you've wrecked that!

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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[lace] 17th c. premade tapes, Mezzo Punto

2013-11-23 Thread Dmt11home
In the 17th century there were laces made from premade tapes.  The tapes 
were tacked onto a pattern and filled with often very beautiful and  elaborate 
needle lace stitches. These tapes look to be of woven linen. When the  
tapes go around a curve they are gathered, or turned over, so it is quite clear 
 
that they were not made with bobbins on a pillow with the patten on it,  in 
which case the maker would have shaped the tape
Does anyone know how or where these tapes were produced? Were  they 
produced on a little loom, like a ribbon loom? 
Santina Levey discusses this kind of lace on p. 23 of her book  under the 
heading Tape Lace. She does not speak of how the tapes were  made.
A cursory search of the internet results in the claim that  tapes for Mezzo 
Punto were either woven or made with bobbins. However, I don't  know 
whether to believe that premade tapes were ever made with bobbins. This may  be 
a 
bit of misinformation repeated over and over again due to generalized  
statements in which tapes laces such as Milanese are conflated with Mezzo 
Punto. 
I would think it would be much easier to make such tapes with  a small 
loom. However, my colleague who weaves thinks it might be easier to make  them 
with bobbins. 
When one looks at classification of these laces in  collections, some are 
classified as needle lace, whereas others are classified  as bobbin lace, 
perhaps on the theory that the tapes which appear to be woven  are bobbin 
lace. However, the more skilled and remarkable work on the lace is  the needle 
lace in my opinion. I am trying to figure out how they should be  classified.
Devon
P.S. In the 19th and early 20th century there were laces based  on these 
early laces such as Battenburg lace that were quite popular. It is  often the 
case that these are also called Mezzo Punto. In fact, it may be that  only 
in the 19th century did they start to call the tape based laces of the 17th  
century Mezzo Punto, so this adds to the confusion. I am assuming that all 
the  tapes in the 19th and 20th century were machine woven.

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[lace] 17th c. premade tapes, Mezzo Punto

2013-11-23 Thread Karen M. Zammit Manduca
 During my University of Malta Diploma in Lace Studies course, we
explored needlelaces and made a tape for a motif ourselves using
bobbins and upright Maltese lace pillow.

Karen in Malta

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Re: [lace] 17th c. premade tapes, Mezzo Punto

2013-11-23 Thread Dmt11home
Karen wrote:
During my University of Malta Diploma in Lace Studies course,  we
explored needlelaces and made a tape for a motif ourselves  using
bobbins and upright Maltese lace pillow.


How did you make the tape with  bobbins?  Specifically what kind of edge 
did it have? Was it a tape with  workers going perpendicular to the edge, or 
was it a tape with a diagonal weave  to it? If it was perpendicular to the 
edge, was the weaving done with a single  thread, as in a talley, or was it 
done in linen stitch, moving two threads  across at a time, which might be 
considered a double weft, where as a talley is  a single weft? 
 
Did the teacher say anything  about or give any source for the idea that 
this was how the tapes were made  historically? 
 
There are quite a few of these  tapes in laces that resemble gros point but 
that are believed to have been made  in Spain, so information from Malta, 
which has an historical association with  Spain may be very significant.
Devon

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Re: [lace] 17th c. premade tapes, Mezzo Punto

2013-11-23 Thread suebabbs385
And having made Battenberg type laces using tapes where you have to gather 
and ease the tapes around corners, I would much rather spend the time making 
a bobbin lace tape to fit the shape first.


All the tapes I inherited seem machine woven to my eye.

Sue

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Re: [lace] 17th c. premade tapes, Mezzo Punto

2013-11-23 Thread Karen M. Zammit Manduca
I'm afraid I cannot answer many of your questions because we did not
go into depth on these laces.

What we did was a cloth stitch braid with a 'straight edge' (i.e. some
of you Spideys out there have referred to it as 'pin under four'). We
then gathered to go around curves. I preferred to have a motif that
required sharper turns and could pleat the tape neatly. I think I must
have used about ten pairs in all.

Karen in Malta

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Re: [lace] prickings

2013-11-23 Thread Maureen
Hi

I probably got my heelball from you, have had it since I lived in Essex.

Just got back from a day of demonstrating lace in our local garden centre which 
is based in an old commercial greenhouse.  Well I didn't do a lot of lace but 
several kids went home with fish.  It was not as hot as last time either, which 
was in the middle of a heat wave in July.  Am back there tomorrow.  Feet ache 
though!!  There was a tame robin who kept coming to see what we were doing and 
kept landing on the artificial trees above us which have artificial snow on 
them and the snow is now on the table.  Festive.

 Maureen
E Yorks UK

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Re: [lace] prickings

2013-11-23 Thread Lin Hudren
i found many years ago while demonstrating that if i put my feet up on a
flat brick, that little bit saved not only my feet but my lower back too.
 it is tense work sharing our lovelies.  because of the weight, i didn't
want to carry 2 bricks with me so i got styrofoam and used that.  you can
cover the pieces (one for each foot - or one longer one) but the damp from
the ground makes it look tacky.  one old timer saw this and made little
foot stools for each of us demonstrating and while a bit heavier, blends
great with our costumes of being pioneer women/men.

i am sure you can look around and find something to help ease your later
aches.  i never feel the pain until afterwards because it is too much fun.
 now i don't have to be concerned and with my tripod table, piano stool
with a full back, my tote with my pillow and supplies (including my little
stool), i go and come home having not only the pleasure of the day but the
glow afterwards for the benefits sharing always grants me.  Happy lacing.

Hugs, Lin and the Mali
*I just realized I am so old, I have forgotten I have been there and done
that.*

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[lace] Putting my feet up.

2013-11-23 Thread Celtic Dream Weaver
My husband made for me a folding wooden foot stool so I can put my feet up
while lacing.
Sherry
New York,  USA

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[lace] heelball

2013-11-23 Thread Janis Savage
I had never heard of heelball until I needed some to copy lace prickings 
by taking rubbings on the back of the pricking.

I got ine from my next-door-neighbour, who was a cobbler.

--
Janis Savage t/a The Lace Place
South Africa

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Re: [lace] 17th c. premade tapes, Mezzo Punto

2013-11-23 Thread Jeriames
Dear Devon,  Where to start on this one!?  Not everyone uses the  term 
Mezzo Punto, for example.  
 
You might like to reference my 2-volume 1913 set of  Old Italian Lace by 
Eliza Ricci.  Volume II is about Bobbin Laces,  and though she does not ever 
use the term Mezzo Punto, you might see more  examples of tapes from 
different collections.  Milanese starts on page  155.   On page 156 is 
mentioned 
a tape made with 2  bobbins.  We know you can make lace with 2 pairs of 
bobbins (In Gil  Dye's new book Surface Decoration in Silk and Metallic  
Laces and in Tamara Duvall's Two-Pair Variations), but 2  bobbins?  A 
fascinating subject to research.
 
In the following chapter about Abruzzi (Southern Italy), you might  like to 
view the illustration on page 228.  In the text I found  a reference to 
making lace with thousands of bobbins (p. 223-4), another  reference of 
children scarce 2 years old instinctively twisting 3 or 4  threads (p. 226), 
and on 
the same page the words that a lace maker of  Pescocostanzo is able to draw 
with her bobbins and pins.  (No pattern or  striped fabric on her pillow.)  
 This relates to an Arachne subject of  the past few days.
 
These 2 books were scanned by Tess into the Professor's site:
 
http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/lace.html
 
When you read the address you are reminded that he started with a site  for 
weavers.  There are many more weavers in the world.   Being able to share 
the University of Arizona site with weavers is a gift of  great value, 
because out-of-print books are extremely costly.
 
Devon, do you know any weaving scholars doing identification at major  
museum collections?  I should think they might add an interesting twist to  
your 
research.  At the least, you might look to see what books are in the  
weaving section of the Professor's site.
 
Everyone:  If you would like to learn about lace makers who came  before 
us, I recommend the Eliza Ricci  books.  They are written in a  charming 
style, like books that belonged to our grandmothers.  Not over-  burdened with 
footnotes and extraneous credits to others.  A chapter a  day may be quite 
manageable and interesting.  Makes you proud to be  carrying on the tradition 
of lace making.   It is rare to find Italian  lace history in English, which 
is why Tess spent so much time scanning these  books for you.
 
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

 
In a message dated 11/23/2013 7:58:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
dmt11h...@aol.com writes:
 
In the 17th century there were laces made from premade  tapes.   When the  
tapes go around a curve they  are gathered, or turned over..they were not 
made with bobbins on a pillow with  the patten on it, in which case the maker 
would have shaped the  tape
Does anyone know how or where these tapes were produced? Were  they  
produced on a little loom, like a ribbon  loom? 

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[lace] heel ball

2013-11-23 Thread Dmt11home
I know the use of heel ball for lace making, but how is it  used on shoes?
Devon

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Re: [lace] Putting my feet up.

2013-11-23 Thread Lesley.blackshaw
I have seen guitar foot stands used by lacemakers.  They're usually quite
reasonably prices.

For example:

http://www.walmart.com/ip/On-Stage-Guitar-Foot-Rest/10298448

Lesley
On my way back from Cornwall to Stockport, staying at Taunton Holiday Inn

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[lace] Needle Lace Exhibition Opportunity

2013-11-23 Thread Jeriames
The Embroiderers' Guild of America is staging an international exhibition  
of contemporary embroidery that features COLOR as its main theme.   This is 
open to members of:
 
EGA
American Needlepoint Guild
Embroiderers Association of Canada
Embroiderers' Guild UK
Association of New Zealand Embroiderers' Guilds
Australia Embroiderers' Guilds
Cape Embroiderers' Guild of South Africa
 
Needle Lace is taught and accepted in these embroidery  groups, because it 
is made with a threaded needle and uses embroidery  stitches.
 
It occurs to me that it would be wonderful to have Needle Laces  
well-represented.
 
For more information, go to _www.egausa.org_ (http://www.egausa.org)  
 
On Home Page, step down Right column and select For  Artists.
 
Entries are due on or before April 15, 2014.  If you decide to  
participate, please contact me.   Otherwise, I will not know this type  of 
opportunity 
is of interest to Arachne members.  
 
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

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[lace] Heelball

2013-11-23 Thread Jean Nathan
According to the on-line dictionary:

A wax colored with lampblack that is used to stain and polish the edges 
of
the soles and heels of shoes or to take rubbings of brass or stone
inscriptions.

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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Re: [lace] Putting my feet up.

2013-11-23 Thread Lin Hudren
You only need to elevate 2 for the relief - surprisingly enough.  anything
else is like an ottoman at home which does not lend itself to working
comfortably.  i use my stool during tax season in the office under the desk
to alleviate a but of stress and tension.  they used to have angled units
in the office supply stores for this.  but, believe me, the foam is hardly
costly and if you only have sheets of thin stuffs, cut them up to shoe size
and glue them together.  probably will only cost you pennies.

Hugs, Lin and the Mali
*I just realized I am so old, I have forgotten I have been there and done
that.*

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Re: [lace] Heelball

2013-11-23 Thread Dmt11home
According to the on-line dictionary:

A wax colored  with lampblack that is used to stain and polish the edges 
of
the soles  and heels of shoes or to take rubbings of brass or  stone
inscriptions.
 
Which leads to the question, what  is lampblack? Fortunately the online 
dictionary also defines lampblack: 

Fine soot collected from  incompletely burned carbonaceous materials, used 
as a pigment and in matches,  explosives, lubricants, and fertilizers. Also 
called  blacking
 
It sounds a little messy to have around lace.
 
Devon

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[lace] Heelball

2013-11-23 Thread Jane Partridge
Blacking would have been used in the household anyway, I can remember my 
grandmother having a range (combination of fireplace and about three 
ovens) which was blacked, and fire grates were blacked as a matter of 
course, especially in larger households where it was the job of the 
lower housemaids.


To take a rubbing they would have rubbed the image onto paper, or 
similar material, as you cannot rub straight onto card (or vellum). This 
would give a mirror image of the pattern, as you rub the wrong side of 
the pricking, so the image would have had to have been turned over to 
prick onto new card - maybe this explains the difference in right and 
left footsides between regions when patterns were copied - so whatever 
was used for the rubbing would have had to be on something thin enough 
for the image to show through. The blacking may have transferred to the 
card when the pricker was pushed through, so they may have used 
something between the card and the rubbing to stop this happening?


Dirty lace was more likely to have been rejected by a dealer - who was 
under no obligation to buy from the cottage workers s/he employed - so 
the lacemakers would have done everything possible to keep the lace 
clean.


In message 6c87.43755fb5.3fc27...@aol.com, dmt11h...@aol.com writes

Also
called  blacking

It sounds a little messy to have around lace.

Devon

--
Jane Partridge

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[lace] Christina pillow

2013-11-23 Thread April Lind
Just noticed a Christina pillow for sale on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Made-in-Sweden-Lacemaking-Bobbin-Lace-Roller-Pillow-European-Knyppeldyna-/151168772630?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item23325c6a16
Sorry, don't know how to make mini urls.
April
In beautiful Edmonds Washington

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[lace] another Pinterest board - appraisers, consultants, conservators, repairers, etc.

2013-11-23 Thread Laurie Waters
I just started a new board on the LaceNews Pinterest site for lace
appraisers, consultants, repairers, conservators, etc.  I think it's a good
idea, but am a bit at a loss on what to pin. If you have any recommendations
please drop me a note.  I'd like to work these up one-on-one with people.
Thanks!



Laurie Waters
lacen...@gmail.com, lwaters...@comcast.net

 http://lacenews.net/ http://lacenews.net

http://www.pinterest.com/LaceNews/
http://www.youtube.com/user/lacenews

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