Re: [lace] Re: Christmas Card exchange
My computer automatically puts my return address on the top left hand corner of the envelope - only once has my missive been lovely delivered back to me! Ann in Manchester, UK, suffering from MRSA, which has twice been treated in hospital during August and October and is still with me, but which can't be caught from a computer screen! - Original Message - From: "Tamara P. Duvall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "lace Arachne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 5:53 AM Subject: [lace] Re: Christmas Card exchange But they also write the same thing in the top left, *front*, corner of the envelope, to please me and the US PO, and *that* way of writing your return address makes excellent sense, also. Better, possibly, if you're not using a sticky label to counteract the poor glue. With both "to" and "from" information prominently displayed on the same side of the package/letter, even the seasonal "help" (possibly as in: "God help them") we get at our PO can *cope* So if the US post office doesn't look on the back for a return address before trashing post, an awful lot of post from the UK will be trashed despite our following Royal Mail's recommendations. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Auction pictures--chantilly shawl
I am reminded of an essay by an American essayist called Stephen Leacock, in an old book of his works that was much loved by my father. And I do mean OLD! - my father's copy had pages which had had to be cut on purchase, in order to read it. This particular essay was based on the old style Mathematics problem: "If it takes one man (A) two days to dig a hole, whilst a second man (B) takes 4 days to dig a similar hole, how long would it take a third man (C) to dig a hole twice as big ...". I cannot remember the exact details, but in Leacock's version A would have muscles like Popeye, B would have been your normal couch potato, while poor old C would have a wooden leg, a hacking cough (brought on by trying to fill a bath, in a downpour, where the bath had only a plughole but no plug) and a shovel with a hole in it! The book is somewhere on my bookshelf - I must read it again! Ann in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: "Clay Blackwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I REALLY appreciate that sobering look at the legend! It did seem excessive, for one shawl!! And come to think of it, even Queen Victoria's wedding finery didn't take THAT long!! > > Clay > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Haven't a clue!
Don't know - but could it have anything to do with Teneriffe Lace? Ann in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: "Diana Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Arachne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 3:48 PM Subject: [lace] Haven't a clue! > Does anyone have any idea what this ebay item was used for? > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=12&item=3743621864&rd=1 > > Diana in Northamptonshire > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: fair winnings
Dear Tamara and Spiders Way back, before I started making bobbin lace, it was suggested to me by a friend - another counted cross-stitch enthusiast - that I enter a class at her local show, which was open to anyone. I decided to enter a cross-stitch picture of a cat sitting among some delphiniums - bearing a remarkable to a cat I used to know called William. I made it from a kit, which I wouldn't have bought if I had realised how fine the count of the material was (at least 32, I think) and that most of the work was done with a single thread of stranded cotton. I won something like 75 pence, and came first. And I never heard from them again the next year - although my friend did - so I assumed they didn't want their ~Big Money prizes leaving the district again! So I know exactly how you feel! Ann in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: "Tamara P. Duvall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "lace Arachne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 3:35 AM Subject: [lace] Re: fair winnings ...But, in my case... I entered once in my local (Rockbridge County) fair. There is no separate lace class/category/division/whatever, so I entered in the Holiday Ornament one (with the Partridge in a Pear Tree; (also on my website). I got first for that one also, but no joy; it felt like kicking someone who was down already - not quite honourable... - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Lace-tour 3 and end
Dear All On Friday evening I came home after 16 nights in hospital being treated for the Hospital Super Bug MRSA (with mixed success!), and found that my daughter, although very computer literate (it's her job, for goodness sakes!) had not managed to follow through my "UNSUBSCRIBE" message, and I had 388 e-mails waiting, of which this was one. This reminded me of the film "Shakespeare in Love", based on a very funny book, by Brahms and Simon, called "No bed for Bacon". Queen Elizabeth I used to Progress around the country, wearing her high, lacy, ruffs (there's the lace content!) and sleeping at stopovers, enabling her hosts to put up signs stating "Queen Elizabeth slept here". I was very amused at the thought of a similar sign stating "The Emperor Napolean did NOT sleep here!" - Original Message - From: "Ilske und Peter Thomsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... On the first floor is a big exhibition about Napoleon including a bed in which he never slept because he preferred his campbed - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] RE: Calico
Dear All So many things that had very many uses are not obtainable any more. During World War II, and presumably before, flour used to be sold in fabric bags, heavily sized, and machine sewn with the sort of stitch where you only have to pull one thread, and the whole thing comes apart. Once washed, the material was a sort of soft muslin, and my mother, and probably many others like her, used to put a hem on the material and use it as a handkerchief. If a bottle of milk had gone sour, I would use it as a cheese cloth, empty the curdled milk into it and hang it on the clothes line - by the next day, it was suitable for "cream" cheese sandwiches! Ann in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: "Joy Beeson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 1:47 PM Subject: [lace] RE: Calico In the U.S., we call it "unbleached muslin". In the forties and fifties, it was the cheapest fabric around and was frequently made into sheets and pillowcases. To this day, people on Sewinglist refer to test-the-pattern projects as "muslins". (I think the U.K. people say toiles".) (*Somebody* says "toile".) I believe that what the British call "muslin", we call cheesecloth. I gather from context that this a grade of cheesecloth that could actually be used for making cheese. Most of our "cheesecloth" is more like gauze, and meant for polishing cars. It comes in packages in auto stores, but I saw some in the canning department at Big R. (I'm referring to the "gauze" that bandages used to be made of -- the "gauze" in the same order with my muslin is fine enough to strain milk with, and substantial enough to make clothing. DH wondered whether I'd bought a bunch of diapers!) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Straw vs ethafoam
My preference between straw and polystyrene, which is the choice here in UK, is for polystyrene. The straw lasts a great deal longer, and is almost impossible to wear out as far as I know, but straw is so heavy, and I just can't carry heavy things any more. Having said that, it is necessary for the polystyrene to have a bit of weight to it or I find I just cannot hold it down enough to make lace on it! Ann in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: "nerakmacd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Clare Settle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Lace list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 6:54 PM Subject: [lace] Straw vs ethafoam > I'm wondering which pillows you prefer, and why. I know that the ethafoam can become worn easier after much use with the pins. Is it the same with the straw, or does the straw tend to 'regroup' better after being used over and over with the pins. I hope I'm making sense here. Most novices start with the ethafoam because of it's cheaper cost, but as you progress and become better, do you prefer to move up to straw because it's better to work with? > Karen > Ontario, Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] informal survey
A single bedspread? A throw? Cot blanket? Pram blanket? Something to keep your knees and feet warm in the winter? A long time ago, when my children were small, I made three bedspreads, in squares, in colours to suit each child. One was in blues and greens, one in browns and oranges and the third one was red, with two adjacent stripes in white, to signify the Number 11 that was used by George Best. The blue and green one became infested with cat fleas while the cats were in a cattery, and my daughter put the bedspread into a boil wash, to destroy the fleas. Unfortunately, it was pure wool, so the result was tragic! Ann in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [lace] informal survey My best (worst?) UFO is the crochet lace bedspread I started making in my teens (I can't remember exactly what year but it must have been about 1976/77), which has been sitting upstairs in a cupboard for the last twenty years, since I discovered bobbin lacemaking (we all use duvets now anyway). Maybe I should get it out and do a bit more. Mind you,I don't have enough thread to finish it, and don't know whether that particular shade of variegated blue is still available -can anyone think of a use for half a bedspread? > Beth - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Stretchy fibre question - OT-ish
As someone who has tried superglue as a material for denture repair, it's not to be recommended - the repair keeps breaking down as, apparently, superglue is water-soluble! Ann in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: "Brenda Paternoster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Debra Hilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Stretchy fibre question - OT-ish > On 16 Apr 2004, at 16:30, Debra Hilton wrote: > > > Can someone recommend a thread which has a bit of stretch but will > > hold a > > knot - I'm thinking probably rayon or silk - for an interim orthodontic > > repair? > > An interim orthodontic repair! Do you mean that you need to tie some > dentures together temporarily? What about superglue (cyanoacrylate) or > araldite (epoxy resin)? help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Defacing coins - was expensive bobbin
And the reason why the more valuable coins have milled edges was that any attempt to clip these coins would be instantly apparent - so the coins would be sure to retain their face values. This was particularly important, in the case of golden sovereigns and other very high value coins. Ann in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: "Liz Beecher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "lace Arachne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Defacing coins - was expensive bobbin > Right, why is it illegal to deface coins? One of the reasons was > because of 'clipping' which was prevalent in during Tudor and Stuart > England (actually clipping was also illegal during the Romans and on > wards but as I understand it the main law we have now was passed during > the Tudor and Stuarts - sorry digressing). > > Right, clipping was where a small amount of the edge of a coin was > clipped off and put to one side. > > Up until recently (mid 1700s if I'm right but don't shout at me), coins > were made of semi-precious and precious metals. So, if you clipped a > small amount from each coin you could end up with some metal which was > commercially resellable. > > Clippers got greedy and would clip off too much of the metal at one time > so that that the coin was severely mis-shaped and as the value of the > coin was in the metal - it was now no longer worth the face value. > > This and the eventual fall in metal prices moved the UK to change the > metal that it used for it's coins to base metal as a silver sixpence was > then worth more than sixpence and either they devalued the coinage or > they reduced the size of the coin to meet the value which meant we would > have had really small coins. > > So, that's one of the reasons why it was illegal to deface a coin. > > If I remember rightly, clipping was punishable initially by removal or > breaking of fingers, then briefly by removal of hand, then > transportation or death. It was taken that seriously. > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] This ebay seller wants to know what it is.
Could it be some sort of fancy darning mushroom? Ann in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: "Jean Nathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 10:38 PM Subject: [lace] This ebay seller wants to know what it is. Another item attributed possibly to needlework or lacemaking, but this time the seller admits to not knowing what it is and asks if anyone can tell him. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3264410314&category=114 or search for item number 3264410314 Jean in Poole - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] need translations
Sharon I assume that a "contour pair" is a gimp? Ann in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: "Esther Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "rick &sharon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [lace] need translations Hi Sharon, This is what I make of it: >"Die beiden Konturpaare konnen auch aus dem gleichen Garn gearbeitet werden. > Both the contour pairs can worked from the same thread. >Dieses Arbeit ist aus zwei gleichen Teilen zusammengesetzt. > This work is made up of two identical parts. >Die angegebenen >Paare sind fur eine Halfte" > The indicated pairs are for one half >also "Der Kloppelbrief wurde um eine DIN-Stufe >verkleinert!" > The pricking is reduced by one (DIN?) step I really don't know what DIN indicates, almost seems like an acronym... Esther - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] A T-shirt for the "in" crowd
When I was doing City & Guilds in Creative Computing - Part 1, which I did actually finish! - I made quite a large number of T-shirts, most of them featuring original bits of lace. The problem that I met with was that, after a couple of washes, the brightly coloured images had more or less turned into grey-scale, so I became discouraged by this disappointment. Can anyone tell me if there is any way to make the colours colour-fast? Ann in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: "Jean Nathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 1:57 PM Subject: [lace] A T-shirt for the "in" crowd DH has successfully printed T-shirts with photos of birds that he took with his digital camera. They came out extremely well because the colours were bright and the images sharp. He used T-shirt transfer paper for inkjet printers, which should be available from most computer supplies shops. The process was: open the image in a suitable program, mirror the image, print it selecting the appropriate setting on the printer for transfer paper, trim round the edge of the printout leaving a thin border around the edge. Then put a board covered with a pillowcase or similar inside a white T-shirt (needs to be white or light so the border on the print doesn't show), place the transfer paper, printed side down, on the T-shirt and iron over it as directed on the paper packet. Allow to cool, peel off the paper. Fix the image by placing a piece of white paper over it and ironing for 10 seconds. Peel the paper while still hot. Leave the T-shirt for 24 hours. Wash before wearing. Iron the image on the reverse side only. I was going to try it it with a scan of some of my nicer bobbins, but, being 3D, they created a shadow on the scan which I wasn't happy with. Jean in Poole - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: "Cornered" Waterlily
Hi! At a time when I was attempting City & Guilds Part 1, having been told that I was going to have to learn Bucks Point, I decided to get ahead of the game, and teach myself from Pamela Nottingham's "Technique of Bobbin Lace). So I attempted the first two patterns in the Bucks section of the book - and they both had corners designed, so I naturally included the corners. The first one, being VERY simple, went OK, the second was fine until I got to the corner, where I got into a real muddle. I managed to get the right number of pairs coming out of the corner, but I just couldn't follow the instructions and diagrams for the actual corner. To cap it all, I got a real telling off from my lace teacher for attempting either corner. I was told I would only be required to do corners in the unlikely event of my ever reaching Part 2! Since I didn't even finish Part 1, I don't need corners!! I think that, traditionally, corners are simply not worked as such, but just by gathering the lace to move to the next side. Ann in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: "Tamara P. Duvall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "lace Arachne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 12:55 AM Subject: [lace] Re: "Cornered" Waterlily On Sunday, Dec 7, 2003, at 09:44 US/Eastern, Anita Awenat wrote: > Now, one other thing, does anyone know if there is a published pattern of a corner for the Waterlily pattern. I'd like to try it as a handkerchief edging, but can't seem to track down an existing corner design. (I'm not interested in the torchon hex version). - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: [lace] La Dame á Licorne/silver thread raffle
This subject reminded me of an Indian couple who were friends of ours. They told me about their marriage, and how the wife was given, on marriage, a sari heavily embroidered with silver thread. It was the husband's proud boast that they had never had to sell this sari, because they had never been poor. This made me realise that valuable gifts such as that, and large engagement rings in times past (as a child I heard many discussions of the number of carats in the diamond or the number of £100's each new engagement cost) were intended primarily as a hedge against possible poverty or future hard times - in fact, for security. Ann, in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: "Cindy Rusak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 2:19 PM Subject: [lace] La Dame á Licorne/silver thread raffle > 'The technique of metalwork embroidery is used for the British Arms on the Queen's privy purse, in which she carries her speeches to Parliament. The purses are replaced at intervals, most obviously because of tarnishing silver threads used for the unicorn, and I saw a new embroidery being prepared for a purse at The Royal School of Needlework's workrooms 25 years ago (would have been her 25th year as Queen).' > > This discussion touched on a topic that I am curious about. I acquired some vintage metallic thread recently and was wondering how to determine whether the thread was real silver or other metals. Did they, or do they still make any thread with real gold, silver, copper or brass (I have all these 'colours' in this lot)? I have determined that it is real metal - when I burned the thread, the fiber (silk?) in the middle burned while the metal remained in a coil. The weight of the skeins was he first clue that they were not synthetic metallic threads. Some of the silver skeins are a little tarnished in a couple of spots which look like a finger marks. The tarnished areas look the same as silverware that has tarnished. Is there any way to determine whether these are the real thing? Two of the gold ones and one of the copper ones have a label with 'Deposee' and a lion printed on them, and on the back of the label '1850' has been stamped. The silver skeins all have about 4 meters of thread. All the skeins are tied with silk-like thread on either end of the skein and then 15 skeins are tied together. Any information would be appreciated Happy lacing, > Cindy - in cold, wintery Wisconsin > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Interesting "lace" item on ebay
It looks as though it fits into some kind of sewing machine, as it has a foot to hold "whatever" down. Ann, in Manchester - Original Message - From: "Jean Nathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 8:47 AM Subject: [lace] Interesting "lace" item on ebay Anyone got any idea what this is and how it's used? The seller doesn't know, but says he/she's been told it's a "lace making needle", and the instructions are in Greek. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2359740333&category=193 19 or search for item number 2359740333 Jean in Poole - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Thanks for NL help
And what Americans call an eraser, we in England call a rubber - which has quite a different meaning in the USA, as I understand! Ann in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: "Ruth Budge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Adele Shaak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jane Viking Swanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "arachne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 6:40 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Thanks for NL help And when we arrived in Australia in the 1950's, there was a brand on sale here called Durex - which at least in the UK then was a brand of contraceptive. You can imagine how a young English girl reacted upon hearing the cry go down the corridors of the office: "does anyone have any Durex?" Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] oops...inscription ? again
I started school, aged 5 and firmly left-handed, in 1939. It would have been 1941 when I graduated to Ink. "Ink involved a wooden handle with a (scratchy) steel nib, an inkwell, smudges and BLOTS! It also involved an Ink Monitor, whose job it was to refill the inkwells with a mixture of a powdery ink concentrate and water. I never knew the proportions for the recipe, and I don't suppose the Ink Monitor did either! As my hand followed my pen along the line, I noticed that I was making a continuous smudge, so hit on the idea of twisting my hand around so that, instead of following along the line I was writing, it travelled along the previous line which, given my slow speed at the time, was already dry - hence, no smudges! Your preferred order for painting demonstrates the same principle - a desire not to smudge work already done. Interestingly, today's young left-handers, in an era of ballpoint pens, where few people posssess fountain pens, and only calligraphers use pen handles and nibs, mainly seem to write the way that I do - when fear of smudging no longer applies! Ann in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: "Celtic Dream Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "arachne lacing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 11:41 PM Subject: [lace] oops...inscription ? again > Actually he said I would think you would turn the bobbin from left to right as you would read a book. > Something for all of you to think about anywaysI would be interested in what you have to say about it. > Sherry > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Orvus
Dear Spiders Can anyone tell me: Is Orvus obtainable in the UK? If so, what is it known as? If not, what, if any, can be used as a substitute? Thank you, in advance! Ann in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: "Patricia Dowden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:34 PM Subject: [lace] Orvus > Hi Spiders, > > Orvus comes up as a topic every once in a while. Specifically, it is pH neutral, (neither acidic nor alkaline which are both bad for textiles.) and it is a wetting agent rather than a soap or detergent. A wetting agent simply allows the water to penetrate the fibers better. Orvus rinses out completely, so rinsing with distilled water will produce the most minimal amount of residue possible. This is also good for textiles, since remnants of anything other than the fiber can cause damage. These traits are also useful for anything that needs to be washed without chemical disturbance, like animals and wool. > > Patty Dowden > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Prizes for all Was Re: Men making Lace
Dear Liz and all At the end of my fifth year at Grammar School, I was awarded a prize for "Best Result in School Certificate" I think I spent my book token on a Biggles book. At the end of my seventh year, I was awarded a prize for "Best Result in General Knowledge", and no prizes for Botany and Zoology, two of my "A" levels - I was rather peeved at that, because I was the only one who took them! (This was in 1952, only the 2nd year of the "new" GCE's. The General Knowledge paper was brand now at that time and was described as an "O" level for those who had spent at least 2 years in the 6th form - I think it became the A level General Knowledge subject that exists now. I can remember answering a question about "The present constitution and composition of the House of Lords" - that was the "Lords spiritual and temporal", which included the 2 Archbishops of Canterbury and York, and 9 Bishops. The other question I remember was about the possibility of space travel, and what would be the difficulties that would have to be overcome. I have a secret belief that the powers that be used my exam paper to help them make space travel possible!) So, yes, I do believe that it's much better to have earned a prize, rather than have them handed out like "party bags" - just for coming!! Also, I recollect that I used to be acquainted with a man who was not elected as vice-chairman of an organisation - even though he was the only candidate - as you may imagine, it wasn't HIM who told me about it!! Ann in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Prizes for all Was Re: Men making Lace A long time ago I put in my first entry for military modeling into a competition. I didn't think I stood a chance and realised I was going to be really embarrassed when I realised that I was the only entry. About an hour before the awards were going to be announced one of the judges took me to one side. He said that as this was my first competition he would like to tell me how the judging was done. He explained that in a couple of the catagories there were less entries than possible awards and in fact, the standard of work was so poor that NO awards were going to be given. So, I stood there at the awards and in some catagories they announced that the entries were gallant efforts but sorry, no cigar. Then it came to my catagory and they said that whilst there was not going to be awarded a Highly Commended (the top award required for being able to go to the Nationals) there was going to be a 1st prize - which I won - the only entry. Whatever I have done, I still prize that award because I didnt' get it because I was the only entry but because I earned it. Prizes for all is one thing but sometimes we need to recognise effort and talent so that we understand how we are progressing. What child is going to look back on an award with pleasure when they realise they got it for just turning up. We might as well just give presents out for that. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Is Lace Declining? - Can anybody help?
A couple of years ago I was sitting "guarding" our exhibits and a C&G display, getting on with my lace while offering to let all comers have a go at the Springett snake on the other pillow, when I spotted a man looking on with a certain amount of interest. So I suggested he had a go at the snake, and after demurring for a few moments, he agreed to have a try. So I talked him through one "row" of the snake as it very gradually dawned on me that I had detached him from his group of Adult Special Needs people who were there with their teacher. We both persevered to the end of the row - and I reckon we both achieved something! Ann in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: "Panza, Robin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 7:53 PM Subject: RE: [lace] Is Lace Declining? - Can anybody help? - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Is Lace Declining? - Can anybody help?
Dear Liz and all, It is true that suppliers are getting fewer as they grow older, but you have left out one major Lace Fair - at least, I think it's major, being up in the North like me - and that's The Great Northern Not Just Lace Fair - known to its friends as Pudsey, as that's where it takes place - and is hosted by Jo Firth, who is a general supplier. I tend to think of Jo and Ashley as members of North West Lacemakers, since they come to our meetings more often than most. the Fair takes place in October, and this year it's on 11th October, in Pudsey Civic Hall. I'll have to miss it this year, as it clashes with our meeting - the refreshment are always excellent! Ann in Manchester, UK PS - I have no connection, but I think it's well worth supporting! - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 6:57 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Is Lace Declining? - Can anybody help? - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Channer's Mat/ challenge
Apart from the fact that she is "tatting" machine lace on her pillow? (Since it's tatting, I don't suppose it matters that the pillow is facing the wrong way!) It reminds me of an advert on television in Britain at present - it's about checking details - and there is this HUGE doll sitting outside on the grass, and the recipient is saying "Did you think 'Tiny Tina' was meant to be IRONIC!?" (The measurements had, apparently, been given in METRES). Ann in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: "palmhaven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Arachne lace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Channer's Mat/ challenge If you really want a challenge, why not try making lace with your pillow in the position that this doll has her pillow? O.K. girls, What else can you find wrong with this picture? Have fun! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2948055885 Sylvia Andrews - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Dolphin and bobbin
Diminutive of obstreperous - or is it obstrepherous? Either way, that's the derivative. Ann in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: "Patricia Dowden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 9:50 PM Subject: RE: [lace] Dolphin and bobbin > . . . I think we chose well, dolphins are beautiful, do a lot of talking and can be stroppy! > > jenny barron > Scotland > > Oh Jenny, I am delighted. Please tell us what 'stroppy' means. > > Patty Dowden > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Lace Frog
Maybe Torchon was the only lace the "teacher" knew how to make? Ann in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: "Elizabeth Ligeti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:41 AM Subject: [lace] Re: Lace Frog "They had only been making lace for 4 years, and were still on narrow, simple torchon patterns, and their teacher would not let them try anything else yet!!!" - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lace frog and "Paris before Binche?" (long)
This is very "off-topic", but it recalls my first week at school in 1939. Having eagerly awaited being educated, I was disgusted when the infant teacher gave me some plasticine, and made me play with it for a whole week. I didn't know how to play with plasticine (having been reading books and playing with my father's typewriter) - so all I could do was roll it into sausages, then roll in into balls! It was a very boring week!! - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 9:09 AM Subject: RE: [lace] lace frog and "Paris before Binche?" (long) 'What does not help nowadays: forcing people to make "worms" for six month.' - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Isn't this funny!!!??
I have been thinking about this. It's a very long time since I went to York - about 25 years, I think - so it's hard to remember. The cobble-stoned street, I think, is called the Shambles, and is kept as a sort of Open Air Museum. The shop may not have been a real, commercial shop at all, rather it may have been laid out like an old-fashioned shop, with bobbins, and maybe other things (you didn't mention if there was anything else on sale) for sale for souvenir hunters. At another, similar place - and I can't remember where - there was an old-fashioned toffee shop where one could buy loose toffee, and there was a clogger working in another shop, making clogs. (Making clogs is a lost art in this country, I think). Ann in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: "Celtic Dream Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 6:18 PM Subject: [lace] Isn't this funny!!!?? > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Simon Toustou
A friend has a term - "BBC Portable". He defines this as meaning, if it's got a handle, however heavy it may be, its "portable"! Ann in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: "Lori Howe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "arachne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:41 PM Subject: RE: [lace] Simon Toustou Maybe the word portable was a translation problem. His idea of portable may be; ability to pack away, where as yours was for ease and convience to carry around. Lori the Lacefairy -Original Message- : I bought a "portable" stand from him some seven or eight years ago. It was certainly beautiful; and far from portable - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace Bodkins on ebay
Perhaps they're tatting bobbins! Ann in Manchester - Original Message - From: "Margot Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "ARACHNE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Lace Bodkins on ebay I am not an expert (or even semi-expert) but I think those were irons for pressing lace. On Tuesday, August 19, 2003, at 03:25 PM, Jean Nathan wrote: > I always thought a bodkin was a blunt "needle" for threading ribbon or > elastic, but the seller describes these as lace bodkins "that would have > been used in a haberdashery department, or a high class milliners." > > Can anyone explain to me please. > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2552516590&category= > 358 Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] A Victorian lace bobbin? on ebay
Where does the "honest" lacemaker wind the thread? Ann in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: "Jean Nathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 9:10 PM Subject: [lace] A Victorian lace bobbin? on ebay This looks more like a fat stiletto to me rather than an "honest" lacemakers' bobbin: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3238172372&category=114 or search for item number 3238172372 Jean in Poole - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Handling bobbins
I resisted commenting the first time the name appeared, but I can keep quiet no longer! There can only be one H Massingham - Harold Massingham was a student at Manchester University at the same time as me - early to mid-50s. I never knew what he was studying - I didn't actually ask, but he wrote poetry, and his hero was Dylan Thomas, and he consequently drank like Dylan Thomas. One day, he announced that he was giving up drinking for a month - just to show that he could - and he stood in the Union bar drinking tomato juice for the whole of February! For a period of time we had a wall in common, as we occupied adjacent bed-sits in a house in Didsbury, and shared a bathroom. One Sunday, around midday, he appeared at the door of my room, waving a tin-opener ineffectually around a tin of corned beef, and asked me if I could open it for him. He looked so pathetic, that I invited him in to share the meal my boyfriend and I were about to sit down to. He stayed the rest of the day, smoking his way through all my cigarettes. When they were finished he announced that he was going to buy some cigarettes, and did I want him to get some for me?!! (This trip to the shops coincided with my telling him that it was his turn to wash up!) We saved the washing up for him - he wasn't very pleased about that, but he did it - singing "Rock of Ages" all the way through! About 25 years later, when I was on the Recreation and Arts Committee on Greater Manchester Council, I found his name on a list of grant-aided events, listed under "Poets in Schools" - so he must have made it as a poet. Ann in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:17 PM Subject: [lace] Handling bobbins Marjorie also mentions a bit more about a quotation in her collection by H. Massingham (not a name I am familiar with) describing a similar method of working. Very interesting. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Starch??
I'm sure there's lots of reasons for not doing what I do when I am running a Christmas "conveyor belt", but when I have not the time to carefully stitch a motif to a base fabric, I cut a piece of felt (whatever colour I decide) the same size as the glass in a bought frame, then I lay the frame face downward, with the glass in place, then I lay the motif carefully in the centre of the glass, lay the felt on top of that and finally replace the back, fixing it in place. The felt holds the motif in position and fills the space between the back and the glass, and the motif doesn't move about. I've been doing this for up to 10 years, and they don't seem to have come to any harm. If the recipient wants to mount it in a different way, that's up to them! Ann in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: "alice howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Starch?? > At 01:04 PM 7/31/2003 -0400, you wrote: > >I have just finished a small motiff and want to frame it. I'm afraid it > >will lose it's shape once I remove it from my pillow and am wondering how to > >starch it. Does anyone have any advice/ideas?? > > I think that you need to remove it from the pillow and see how it does > before worrying. You didn't say anything about the kind of thread or > style of lace or density of the lace. All these things will affect how > firm or soft a finished piece is. > > If it is going to be framed, it would have to be mounted on a backing. > Sewing it to the backing would provide support, and you did say 'small'. > It wouldn't have great size or weight to sag. (My experience with the > lace items basted to fabric for my lace exhibit, where it hung for two > months, was that the only item that sagged was a large knitted lace cloth.) > > Generally, I use starch only on three dimentional items, such as Christmas > ornaments or shaped flowers. For anything that is flat, the natural > tension of cotton or linen seems to be enough. I haven't done much with > silk, so someone else can speak up about that. > > For the items that I do starch, I pin them out on a piece of cardboard > covered with plastic wrap or wax paper. For convenience, I use a spray > can of heavy duty starch. Spray, let dry, test. If not stiff enough for > the purpose of the item, spray again, and so forth. The pins used for > starching are kept in a separate packet labeled 'starch pins'. You can't > use them for regular lace again without washing them. > > Use starch only as a last resort. Mounting it to the backing most likely > will be all the support that is needed. > > Happy lacing, > > Alice in Oregon - 40 demo hours in 4 days sweltering at the fair. > Oregon Country Lacemakers > Arachne Secret Pal Administrator > Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] summer/winter lace projects
Hi, all This is going to sound rather gloomy/pessimistic/stupid. I have spent the first 7 months of this year making the lace for 2 heirloom table cloths, and shall spend the next 5 months (God willing!) making the lace for a third. Until I have done all three and mounted them, I am not going to do anything else! The reason? Up until a couple of years ago I had every intention of living forever, with all my faculties (of course!) - even after my first heart attack, when the consultant told me that I was a creaking gate and would go on for ever. The second 'slight' heart attack had me in hospital for a month, during which time I had a double coronary bypass, and lost my 'creaking gate' status. The problem is that I have three children, and every one will have to have an heirloom - hence the three cloths. I just started the lace for the third this evening - and for light relief I am halfway through mounting the first. Ann in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: "Bev Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:48 AM Subject: [lace] summer/winter lace projects - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace fans
I've done about a dozen fans, and when it comes to mounting, each time, I find I have to refer to Christine Springett's book. I have 3 separate pleating plans - large, medium and small - which I have drawn up according to Christine's instructions - when I have completed the fan leaf I tack it to the pleating plan - I usually tack around the fan/plan 6 or 7 times before I am ready to pleat. These pieces of interfacing will last me for ever, I hope, so I won't have to make any more. I use wooden fan sticks - usually the ones done by Springetts - and I prime them before using them with diluted PVA glue, which I allow to dry. Then I stick the sticks to the lace with PVA. I made a bad mistake once, by glueing the stick to the wrong fold of a pleat, and didn't notice until it was finished and dried! I used a stiff bristled brush, and a little filtered water, and dabbed gently along the line of the stick until I could lift the lace off the stick, and I was able to relocate in the right place, so no harm done! Ann in Manchester, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Antique lace pillow on ebay - whats the drawer for?
I don't know the answer to what the drawer is for, but a few years ago I bought an old pillow from a Barnardos shop. I was shown it before it had been priced, and had to go back five days later to speak to the Manageress. I had £30 in my purse, and I thought if I have enough money on me to buy it, I'm meant to have it. The Manageress was being very canny. She said, "We know what we've got, and we know what it would have cost new. I've shown it to a lacemaker in (she named a nearby town), and we can't take less than £29.95 for it". I said "Thank you very much" and "Keep the change", and took it home to examine at my leisure. It wasn't the same shape as the one on e-bay, though it was squared at the back, with a sort of horseshoe shaped cushion, the whole lot being within a wooden frame. There was a scruffy piece of lace on the pillow, with a number of old wooden bobbins in use, spangled. (The manageress seemed to think that the lace added to the value of the pillow). I had to unwind a fair bit of it to sort out the bobbins, because there were rather less pins than there were wooden bobbins. The real beauty of this pillow, however, was the drawer at the back of the frame. This contained a hank of linen thread, and something wrapped in tissue paper. This treasure trove turned out to be 14 bone bobbins, all spangled - nothing very special, I don't think, but nevertheless, at a minimum of £5 a time for a bone bobbin, there was £70 worth straight away! Ann in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: "Jean Nathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 9:27 AM Subject: [lace] Antique lace pillow on ebay - whats the drawer for? - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Princess on ebay
I think you're right. I think that what's shown is a compilation of a short length of lace plus the working diagram, and not the pricking at all. Ann in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: "Marcie Greer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 1:36 AM Subject: RE: [lace] Princess on ebay Is it just the perspective or does the lace appear to be very much smaller than the pricking? Marcie in Latrobe, PA Referencing: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3234536185&category=1 14 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Batsford and Angela's book
Having read your e-mail, especially about membership being free, and discount being available for members, I hastened to join, went all through the application form, and finally received the response: You seem to be already a member, so there is no need to join again. But I have certainly never joined before! Ann in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: "Jean Nathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:30 PM Subject: [lace] Batsford and Angela's book The members' email from Batsford, and curiosity as to which books I could get a 15% discount and free shipping, was how I was led to find out that Angela's book had been released. The email also contained the statement: "If you no longer wish to receive monthly updates on your chosen subject areas please e-mail me on [EMAIL PROTECTED] with UNSUBSCRIBE in the header." - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] mounting old lace
My father would use a large curved needle as described to sew up the vent of a turkey or chicken so that the stuffing would not leak out during cooking! Ann in Manchester, UK > I had trouble finding curved needles in the sewing shops here - so my > veterinary surgeon daughter finally produced some really tiny ones! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] mounting old lace
My father would use a large curved needle such as described to sew up the vent of a turkey or chicken to stop the stuffing leaking out! Ann in Manchester, UK Original Message - > I had trouble finding curved needles in the sewing shops here - so my > veterinary surgeon daughter finally produced some really tiny ones! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lacemaking doll on ebay
It's a real pity that she disappears into the wallpaper! Ann, in Manchester, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Fw:lace,spice girls' vocal concert
Whatever is this load of gibberish? Please enlighten me! Ann, in Manchester UK - Original Message - From: "blairj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 3:38 AM Subject: [lace] Fw:lace,spice girls' vocal concert > Content-Type: application/octet-stream; > name=CAGBAHYZ.jpg > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > Content-ID: > > /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEASABIAAD/2wBDAAYEBQYFBAYGBQYHBwYIChAKCgkJChQODwwQFxQY > GBcUFhYaHSUfGhsjHBYWICwgIyYnKSopGR8tMC0oMCUoKSj/2wBDAQcHBwoIChMKChMoGhYa > KCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCj/wAAR > CACWAGQDASIAAhEBAxEB/8QAHQUBAQEABQADBAYHAgEI/8QAOxAAAgED > AgQEBQEGAwkAAQIDAAQRBRIGITFBEyJRYQcUcYGRMhUzQqHB0SRisRYjUmOCkrLh8P/E > ABYBAQEBAAABAv/EABYRAQEBAAABEf/aAAwDAQAC > EQMRAD8Al6hMZ7l37dAPao4607KPMa5VaKVeZpwpyOO1R40ZN+52fLEjOPKPQe1A4x5VAvJt > qnnUqRsLQ8Rm6uQv8C8z/ag5s4GfLsPM1H9I057i4RAOpry2tgMcqu/C9gsa+Kw59qSAnpeg > wxRrv5nHSrDa2cEWNqCmYj0qbHyFbiHVABbAHX+lIuFBJOAOZpmSZIt5kcKOvP6V6XDIWBG3 > HXPKg7jnjkQOjgqenalVZGpadbqsd1+z3mA8xa5TNKgzCRfMabcrEjSSMFRAWZj0AHU1Ik/U > aqnHF+Es/kEOWmGZMHovp9/6VgU7VNbub7VnvrOWaBs+HF4bEEIDyH36/etF08XSWEI1CQSX > W0GRgoHP05VTeDNKFzfm8kX/AHFufKOxft+Ov4q7zPhTRUe5kwMDr0Aqdplt4SZP6jzNQ7KI > z3G8/pXp9aPQx9ABQTdMtjNMoxyq82SCOMIOwoBo8AjQMRzNWCAgDLEAAZJParEE7bpk1xd3 > 5VP8MV2ld3jkgxqAcHJ7YoLd6iksO7xXjs+YLJ+qU8vKPTvkfehF08t8qJMNlsn7uAHkPc+p > 96uiRd69ullj0+NruQYzc3CFYwTz8g6t+cUMuxd6gc6jczXH+TO1B9FHKube01W31B31Ca2G > nuMW6qEVmPYEZyMD80UWImoB0VhEqALEgHoFpUZSA7aVBQ5j5jQbU9FsNQZnnixKesinDUVn > bzGozPUVHsrSLT7KO2gzsQdT1J7k+9cyZkYKvU8qdkblTmmwF3Mrfagm2duIkUDtRmwg8RgT > 2qJFHuIFHLKLYg9TRBG2GMAV1c3RBBR4zZxFlueYYk4/d47E5qPcTm2gzHtNw52Qq38T9h7f > XpXKWsbzeHEu22jYttznc59+4HQVQ1Ekk7rNKoVQNsUY6Rr/AH96mfLh42VxyYEH6GpSQjFP > rF7VcGZ6D8OnsuNJtQuriSfToSJbRZJy7lz/AMYI/hwfrke9aOkIFSki9a9kARM0xUdrZXwT > JKvLGEcqKVDpb2d5GMIGwHAJ70qaigXB8xqKxo/eadEWJXcv0NC59NcZKOD9RisqgAGWQIO/ > X6Ubt4wiAAVCsLYxli+N2aKwLkgURNsossCaMQjpUK3TaoFT4z4aNIRnYC2PWqIqhrnWHYxj > ZaKFjJ7u3cduWDzo/Bb+HGqgdKFcLQIlnAWCh5S0pIz5znrz68sVY0TPSrA2kVPJFmpMcftT > 8cYqhmK2zULXY/As2YemKPRJQ3idAdOb2oK9bW4WBRjtSqdbqPCWlUVlq8ZaNcHzSTQH/mR8 > vyM1ITVdNuf3F9bt7bwD+DWULYbjzFGdJ0aOWdQyAjqcisGNBQBiSuCM9RRK1iwMmh9igSNE > UAKowAO1GIB5RVRJhXpTevssejyI2czMsS4IGSTy69uVSoF5Zpy4iklCqkiKg5sGjDZ9OtUN > W8wi4z0vTEOBFpssrAe7Ko/8TVwiTFZ3ZsT8a7hS2VGjxBR6eZia0iM1YHkWn1FNKRTqmtB+ > Oh3Egzpz0QRhQ/iJx+z5BntUAuD90v0pU1bSjwV+lKisGisvN0qx6XZiNM45mm7W3Bk6UbtY > xy9KwU/bRYA5URgXOKZiTlU+2TGM1UdTP8vArgD9SrzOOpxUlRWUcS8fam+pahpdpw+s3yc5 > jMnjkjKkHOAB/wCqsnw84uu+I47tb+1htpoJNm2MkjHuT3oJ1u2343v/AJtIT/V60pHGMk4A > 9ayvxQvxut+f69Ix+GetEusS2ksZPldSp+hqwSdJ1KDUEna2uYp1SQrmM9B2qf4mKonCVqbD > VrgKcIQUI9e4q0z3GxTzpKHtU1UWFnLKMFwp2g+vaq/JrE2oQDxmXaw5hRihXEV6ZDsB5UNs > LoJGu5sCpaC9zrVpYOsM8xRtoIAUnlSobPc6bNse5aMttwN77TjJ7EjvmlQBGWWOa1WLZteQ > iTPZdpP250ZtgvYqfoc188a1EgQFNwIJBGfetK+D9sdNtNRS5dCZJYypVsj9JqLjTl2Rx75X > REH8TsFH5NTIxisf+Oun311+ypbWOaa2jR96KMohLDDHtk8h9qv3wxS4j4F0lL1JBNFGUIfm > cBjjHtjGKqKHp7GPjPipJxGshvjli3JFIzk+2KsvAumx6VquovHeW9xDeN48XhEnAHUY9hio > GtX1pqa6jDNaW9pNKWT5h41Uq2cbpCOoxyyc9RQf4QWMn+0MrjVbe6itoWCwxShyoYgZODyq > KtF/exXHxm0y5tXLRvpjhWKlc4ZgeRANX67vDHZsWljiJKqHdgoBLAdTWd6/IV+MOiMTknT5 > Qf8AuNW+VhcxGKaNXRuqsMiqg/4EcU4mgKkcxJg5wRnmaiahdYQ86+dfiBquvaHxRcwW+o3k > NnDJ/hvBk2KoYbug6nmetaXwrrt7q3Cljeant+ZlVizAbd4DEBse4FNE7ULjfK2aD6tqkWl2 > kEki3BZmwhhTftIGct7Yp+WbxGJ70Qlgm/Zsny8McrGBtysSDtIAOCD71B7o3ENjLp0Us+l6 > k0smWb/CdOf3/wBaVHxrkdoqQyWp3KoBG9mK8uhIpVRhXC1g13JqerXEIe007O0OoIaVj5QQ > euOv1xVh4h4wt9N4b02f5LdrD5ijJJCCJT1ZR17D1960saRbWWkT6bdxozXAMswB5OxIJOfc > j+VYP8ZGhGvWkVswMUcBGF6A7zn+lRQPiTi7V+IhHHql14kERykKKFRT0zgdT7nNE+EviHr3 > DsMNnZTxzWKHK288YZVHUgHkQPoapXSnbYhZsnsrH+VEGtX4n1LU5rp5ZjHHcljJFENqEE5K > +4+vpUDTNSvNLvEu9OuZra5T9MkT7WHt9PaoCk4GfpXWaDTOB+I9T4h42sbnUmW4ns7eQbwA > hZSR17Hme1bFd6tYWNm1xfXcNvEi5dnccvb3+1fNnAkgj4rs92DH5wwboRtPL84q1fFy9eSO > yga3trdvFIZbeXcmUQAEDsCHGCDzx2oOOOuKNIv9befTbGPUoyBue9DqmQMeRFKnGO5P2qw6 > Bx1ol9Z20OqPPplxEoQJDGWhboAAAemOzdPWsdRuXOlIfI2fSivo3U7AWkTzR3KyxCQIMqVY > 5z9u3ajujsJFBPX5cj87f7VlA4pvpNIsNOS1V0jRWjLvsdvLyUcsHqcYOat3B3ELyWV1JqMK > WckKeGkbucuMcyMj2xQG9fdItUlWS78JuR2+Hu7dc0qnrqGl6jHHcSralyoHnkGR7UqIIcQ2 > Md3GlzI7kqpjBRsEqcHBHsR/Ovnr4l28Z1/w4SFFvDlgefccvrzr6MgVnt2ZSskIUtuHRl/o > RWAfGK2SDX1ubYbY54huH/30pVZ0/WvYF3zogIBc7efTnyrliMjB6ClHnxV2gls8gOeaDuWN > ocI6lXBIYHsQcEVyOdStSfddOx/iOT9aiURIsWEcruzMqupiyFz+oYP8qO8X6dfW2laFf3SA > W15E5i25O3BAAJ7Erggen8gNrNJGwMP6lbfzPI8vStT4l4R0ybTbW4aS4S4bQJtQdg+VM0Yi > K+XGMYdhj6elFZKnSnra0mv7qC0tUMk88ixRqO7MQB/rTCGpukzSQapaSQTPBKsq7ZY2KsmT > jII6HBojWV4d4g02UwRJw+biABCo1JQ64GOYbGOVOtYcbgKw0KCdeoaG5iYH75qtcZRXmhap > fBdVubto782pe4IZm5kB29TgDrVk0641/TrA29lxL4cmwtaWPysZNw5kZSi8uX6dxPQAk9qK > 4NvxipweFLhj6h0P9aVLW+MuJ9Kmt4odatr4SQiUtHZopjYkgxupGQwI5g0qDUdMtSllLcmQ > jxEK7FOAT6msd+LyCaRcctkAI/6Sf70qVKRlAqVpXLUYWBwVJP8AKlSoOLslpmPuaYzSpUBv > heztru4uPmvEwiAjZ7kg1onF+uxxWFvb28Lsi6JdWe52wfN4QzjnnG0fmlSoMhXrXQYxyI46 > qwb8HNKlRGnfFazmeXWdQ3p8u2ohlX+IEhc5/PrVk0KN7i2
Re: [lace] Hanging bobbin
>From 2nd March to 6th April seems to have been pretty quick 'justice' - these days it seems to take about 18 months to even get to Court! Ann, in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: "Diana Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Arachne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:40 PM Subject: [lace] Hanging bobbin Recently at a local auction I bought a 'lot' of 29 inscribed bone bobbins which included two hanging bobbins - a William Bull and another which is virtually unknown - 'MILES WEATHERHIL HUNG 1868'. I know of the existence of one other. *Bucks County Records Office states that Miles Weatherhill was sentenced for murder - 9th March 1868. The Times of that date p.10 col (d). He was executed on 6th April 1868. Miles returned to Todmorden on 2nd March 1868, broke into the vicarage and killed the vicar, the vicar's baby daughter, and Jane Smith, a servant. He was tried and hanged at Manchester jail in 1868. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Quiet list?
Perhaps everyone is watching Wimbledon! Let's see what happens to the postings when the rain starts! Ann, in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: "Lori Howe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "arachne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 2:50 PM Subject: RE: [lace] Quiet list? Must be vacation time. Schools let out and kids keep some people busy! Lori the Lacefairy - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
