Re: [lace] Exciting find!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_squadrons_and_flotillas_of_the_Royal_Nav y Have a look at this link. I believe that British 8th Navy is a truncation due to space and may be any of the 8th's referenced in this link Kind Regards Liz Baker On 11 May 2013, at 18:09, Clay Blackwell wrote: > Last weekend, I attended the North Carolina Regional Lacers' Spring Lace Day. As always, it was great fun!..there was an area for lacemakers to sell lacemaking supplies they no longer use. A friend was there, selling the last of the things from Betty Ann Rice. I glanced into a box of old bobbins, and a spangle caught my eye... could it be? > > It was a tiny bone spy glass... And yes! It was a Stanhope! The image was barely visible, but I was very excited to find it. The amazing thing is that so many people had been through those bobbins in the past year and no one else had noticed it. I suppose our discussion last week about Stanhopes was fresh in my mind, so I knew it when I saw it. > > After getting home with it and looking at it carefully, I realized the lens was coated with grime. After carefully cleaning it, I can now see four drawings with titles! There is "King's Road", "The Aquarium", "Palace Pier", and "The Beach". There appear to be two other pictures below the four, but all that is visible are the tops of the drawings. > > Any ideas where these places are? The bobbin has "British 8th Navy" written on it with the name of someone who died in 1981. > > Clay > > Sent from my iPad > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Exciting find
A word of warning on these records. The records me held as paper for all armed forces but a few years a go there was a fire at the records office (Hayes Middlesex) and many papers got burned, destroyed or singed. When you do a search you will see what has been scanned to date. For example, my father requested his father's service records and these are there to see because they were micro Fisched when he made his request even though the original were mainly destroyed in the fire. But his records are not on yet. The Aussie's father's records are not on line. So just because there is nothing returned doesn't mean that there is nothing. Kind Regards Liz Baker On 12 May 2013, at 09:03, Brenda Paternoster wrote: > Jean, the website you are referring to is that of the National Archives > http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Home/OnlineCollections > > Just type the name in and see what comes up. Put inverted commas around the > full name to stop the search engine from searching on each word. But, "Name > Surname" will not find Name Second-name Surname and vice versa. > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Exciting find
Jean, the website you are referring to is that of the National Archives http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Home/OnlineCollections Just type the name in and see what comes up. Put inverted commas around the full name to stop the search engine from searching on each word. But, "Name Surname" will not find Name Second-name Surname and vice versa. I tried it with Terry's grandfather who was in the Royal Navy during WW1. Just one document found and clicking on his name took me to another page from where I could purchase a copy of the full document for £3.36. (no need to do that as my SIL has his full Navy record). It didn't find my Grandad who was in the Army during WW1, nor my Dad who was in the RAF during WW2. Someone who died in 1981 may well have been on the 1911 census. If the name isn't very common it may be possible to identify him that way, so if Clay would like to post the name I will try looking at the 1911 census. BTW it geneaolgy, not geneology. Brenda On 12 May 2013, at 08:05, Jean Nathan wrote: > You have the person's name, and for anyone who has served in the army, you > can look up their service record on a web site - can't remember which. Don't > know if it's the same for the Royal Navy and the Royal Air Force, but I'm > sure someone on this list who's into geneology will be able to say if there > is. If so, that could give you a lead into all sorts of things about the > person whose name is on the bobbin and whether Brighton is relevant to him. Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Exciting find
You have the person's name, and for anyone who has served in the army, you can look up their service record on a web site - can't remember which. Don't know if it's the same for the Royal Navy and the Royal Air Force, but I'm sure someone on this list who's into geneology will be able to say if there is. If so, that could give you a lead into all sorts of things about the person whose name is on the bobbin and whether Brighton is relevant to him. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Exciting find!
Hello Jill and everyone Lace Bobbin shorthand...British 8th, Navy - could have been squadron, battleship, cruiser or whatever, as opposed to British 8th Army or other department of the militia. Could be a WW I vet as their numbers didn't dwindle until the early 2000's. On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Jill Hawkins wrote: > There is only ONE British Navy. I have no idea what 8th British Navy might > refer to. > > > -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Exciting find!
There is only ONE British Navy. I have no idea what 8th British Navy might refer to. Jill in Newport Pagnell, Bucks Sent from Samsung Mobile on O2 Original message From: Bev Walker Date: To: Nancy Neff Cc: Clay Blackwell ,lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Exciting find! Hello Nancy, Clay and everyone The date if 1981 could relate to a veteran of British 8th Navy per the writing on the bobbin? On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Nancy Neff wrote: > > 1981 or 1881? If 1981 then it sounds unusual, both to > have a commemorative bobbin for someone's death but also for the subject > matter of the pictures-- > > >...places are? The bobbin has "British 8th Navy" written on it with the > name of > >someone who died in 1981. > > > >Clay > > > -- Bev tackling a design of Torchon fillings in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Exciting find!
Hi Bev, Clay et al: > The date if 1981 could relate to a veteran of British 8th Navy per the > writing on the bobbin? I've been looking online, trying to find any reference to the British 8th Navy **at all** and cannot. I have found an 8th Battle Squadron of the British Navy, which was commissioned only during World War I. I've found British references to an 8th Air Force and an 8th Army, relating to action in the Mediterranean in World War II. But nothing about an "8th British Navy". It's driving me crazy. But given the 1981 death date I would suspect it is a World War II keepsake. Adele North Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Exciting find!
Hello Nancy, Clay and everyone The date if 1981 could relate to a veteran of British 8th Navy per the writing on the bobbin? On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Nancy Neff wrote: > > 1981 or 1881? If 1981 then it sounds unusual, both to > have a commemorative bobbin for someone's death but also for the subject > matter of the pictures-- > > >...places are? The bobbin has "British 8th Navy" written on it with the > name of > >someone who died in 1981. > > > >Clay > > > -- Bev tackling a design of Torchon fillings in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Exciting find!
Yes indeed Clay -- exciting! Brighton is the first place I think of given those names/places. 1981 or 1881? If 1981 then it sounds unusual, both to have a commemorative bobbin for someone's death but also for the subject matter of the pictures--see the discussion at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanhope_(optical_bijou), where it says most recent ones are of religious themes. (And yes, to some of us, 1981 seems "recent"!! I don't think I want to hear the "but I wasn't even born yet" remarks!) There's a picture of a little spy-glass on the Wikipedia page, is that what yours looks like? Nancy Connecticut, USA Any ideas where these places are? The bobbin has "British 8th Navy" written on it with the name of someone who died in 1981. > >Clay - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Exciting find!
Clay wrote: Any ideas where these places are? The bobbin has "British 8th Navy" written on it with the name of someone who died in 1981. It seems to me that with the names - Kings Road, The aquarium, Palace Pier and The Beach that the pictures would be of Brighton, Sussex. Malvary in Ottawa where it is a lot cooler today after a night of rain. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Exciting find!
What fun!! Try Brighton, Sussex England Sue Please note I am stopping using sueba...@comcast.net, and switching my email to suebabbs...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: Clay Blackwell Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 12:09 PM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] Exciting find! Last weekend, I attended the North Carolina Regional Lacers' Spring Lace Day. As always, it was great fun!..there was an area for lacemakers to sell lacemaking supplies they no longer use. A friend was there, selling the last of the things from Betty Ann Rice. I glanced into a box of old bobbins, and a spangle caught my eye... could it be? It was a tiny bone spy glass... And yes! It was a Stanhope! The image was barely visible, but I was very excited to find it. The amazing thing is that so many people had been through those bobbins in the past year and no one else had noticed it. I suppose our discussion last week about Stanhopes was fresh in my mind, so I knew it when I saw it. After getting home with it and looking at it carefully, I realized the lens was coated with grime. After carefully cleaning it, I can now see four drawings with titles! There is "King's Road", "The Aquarium", "Palace Pier", and "The Beach". There appear to be two other pictures below the four, but all that is visible are the tops of the drawings. Any ideas where these places are? The bobbin has "British 8th Navy" written on it with the name of someone who died in 1981. Clay Sent from my iPad - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Exciting find!
Last weekend, I attended the North Carolina Regional Lacers' Spring Lace Day. As always, it was great fun!..there was an area for lacemakers to sell lacemaking supplies they no longer use. A friend was there, selling the last of the things from Betty Ann Rice. I glanced into a box of old bobbins, and a spangle caught my eye... could it be? It was a tiny bone spy glass... And yes! It was a Stanhope! The image was barely visible, but I was very excited to find it. The amazing thing is that so many people had been through those bobbins in the past year and no one else had noticed it. I suppose our discussion last week about Stanhopes was fresh in my mind, so I knew it when I saw it. After getting home with it and looking at it carefully, I realized the lens was coated with grime. After carefully cleaning it, I can now see four drawings with titles! There is "King's Road", "The Aquarium", "Palace Pier", and "The Beach". There appear to be two other pictures below the four, but all that is visible are the tops of the drawings. Any ideas where these places are? The bobbin has "British 8th Navy" written on it with the name of someone who died in 1981. Clay Sent from my iPad - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
