[lace] Fiber Familiarity

2010-08-26 Thread Gon Homburg
Devon wrote:

There seems to be a huge divide between the hobby lacemaking world and the  
artistic world. The hobby world has classes, books, lending libraries,  but 
the artists seem to be going it alone. In fact, it is actually somewhat  
painful to see artists re-inventing the wheel with a huge amount of effort, 
and  they do not lack in effort, when many of the things they are discovering 
have  already been discovered. 

I can of course not speak for America, but here in Holland i think the gap 
between hobby lacemakers and artists is getting smaller.
Several hobby lacemakers developed themselves into lace artists. 
Among my students in lacemaking there are several artists. I try to give them 
enough techniques to use in their work and give them the lessons they need.
A few years ago I gave a workshop at the Art School in Utrecht. There I offered 
the students the basics such as cloth stitch, whole stitch and half stitch and 
braids. Furthermore they learned to make corners and roundings in a braid of 
cloth stitch, a small piece of Schneeberg lace and a small lace from about 
1750. They liked it to do and the school was very enthusiastic about the 
results. However this last year they did not organize this workshop again. 
Every year they have another theme for the workshop, so I have to wait when I 
am invited again. Besides that the government is cutting down the money for the 
schools, so that they can not organize as much as they did and perhaps want to 
do.

So perhaps when this changes they will ask for it again.

Gon Homburg, Amsterdam, the Netherlands
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Re: [lace] Fiber familiarity--bobbin lace descriptors

2010-08-14 Thread Nancy Neff
Bobbin Lace: Contra Dance in Thread





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10, 2010 3:10:30 PM
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Bobbin Lace: The
Fiber Art for Puzzle solvers
Bobbin Lace: Puzzles in thread
Bobbin Lace: Fiber
Art for the Active Mind. 
Bobbin Lace: The Fiber Art that tests your
ingenuity. You don't know  where 
it will take you.

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Re: [lace] fiber familiarity

2010-08-13 Thread Sue Babbs
My standard response is similar to Clay's "It's doing the ironing that takes 
patience. I thoroughly enjoy doing this so it doesn't take patience." The 
penny seems to drop instantly. I also tell them that for me, making lace can 
get rid of a tension headache.


I'm afraid that the more I demonstrate, the more I have standard responses, 
and I feel awfully sorry for the other textile artists with whom I share a 
set of tables, and who can now give my standard responses for me :)  There 
is huge delight when I get  a question I haven't heard before!!

Sue
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"What takes patience, for me, is cleaning the bathroom."  I can see 
immediately then, that they "get it".  If it's something you love - 
regardless of how complicated or involved the process is - then it does 
not take patience.


Clay



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RE: [lace] fiber familiarity

2010-08-13 Thread Margery Allcock
Clay's right - and surely, like beauty, tedium is in the eye of the
beholder.  It's not lacemaking or housework which is tedious in itself; it's
the mindset of the person who's thinking about doing that activity.

And sometimes even cleaning the bathroom is not tedious if I have something
interesting to think about .

Margery.
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> 
> I have been interested in the response people have for the 
> ever-present 
> comment, "I don't have the patience...".  Rather than argue 
> with them, I 
> tell them that for me, this is an activity I can enjoy for hours and 
> hours.  Then I tell them, "What takes patience, for me, is 
> cleaning the 
> bathroom."  I can see immediately then, that they "get it".  If it's 
> something you love - regardless of how complicated or involved the 
> process is - then it does not take patience.
> 
> Clay

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Re: [lace] fiber familiarity

2010-08-12 Thread lynrbailey
Well said.  We all have patience for those things we enjoy, no matter how time 
consuming or complex, no matter how many steps.  I suspect, "I don't have the 
patience," or, "It's too tedious," is really code for, "I can't do that, it's 
too hard."  Lacemaking is not that hard in the beginning.  Four bobbins, two 
movements, a twist and a cross. Go slow, and quite quickly you're making 
something pretty.  Many people stay close to that level, and make pretty, 
satisfying things for quite a while.  Although I don't know of anyone who stays 
at that level forever.  But we don't have to tell newbies that.  

Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, where it's dark, the Newfoundland is snoring, 
and it's bedtime.


-Original Message-
>From: Clay Blackwell 
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>Cc: lace@arachne.com
>Subject: Re: [lace] fiber familiarity
>
>I have been interested in the response people have for the ever-present 
>comment, "I don't have the patience...".  Rather than argue with them, I 
>tell them that for me, this is an activity I can enjoy for hours and 
>hours.  Then I tell them, "What takes patience, for me, is cleaning the 
>bathroom."  I can see immediately then, that they "get it".  If it's 
>something you love - regardless of how complicated or involved the 
>process is - then it does not take patience.
>
>Clay
>

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Re: [lace] fiber familiarity

2010-08-12 Thread Clay Blackwell
I have been interested in the response people have for the ever-present 
comment, "I don't have the patience...".  Rather than argue with them, I 
tell them that for me, this is an activity I can enjoy for hours and 
hours.  Then I tell them, "What takes patience, for me, is cleaning the 
bathroom."  I can see immediately then, that they "get it".  If it's 
something you love - regardless of how complicated or involved the 
process is - then it does not take patience.


Clay

On 8/12/2010 11:18 AM, dmt11h...@aol.com wrote:


This is why I think that dismissing the rest of the population as having
short attention spans is the wrong track. People have enormous attention
spans  for something they want to do.
Devon
   


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[lace] fiber familiarity

2010-08-12 Thread Dmt11home
Branwyn wrote
 
<>
 
This is why I think that dismissing the rest of the population as having  
short attention spans is the wrong track. People have enormous attention 
spans  for something they want to do. People learn other languages, learn to 
play  musical instruments, design websites. In fact, our young people are able 
to  configure their phones to do all sorts of things, like have individual 
ring  tones for different callers, which I don't have the patience to do. The 
issue is  how to convey lacemaking, or artistic free form weaving, as I may 
start to call  it, as something they want to do.
 
Devon

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Re: [lace] Fiber familiarity

2010-08-12 Thread lynrbailey
Bobbin lace will never be as popular as cross stitch.  Or as knitting.  In 
America it has NO background, except is small pockets, perhaps, and I've never 
been there.  I need to finish the book on lace in Ipswich MA, to see if there 
are more lacemakers there than usual.  Hell will freeze over before JoAnn 
Fabrics carries bobbins.  Fine.  But there are those, such as I, who will come 
to be passionate about this art form after a minimum of exposure.  

How about trying to expose our children and grandchildren to the art.  My own 
children presently have no interest, but they have been exposed, and I am 
always hopeful.  My daughter weaves.  My son, age 30, studying applied 
mathematics, started on the children's pattern used in Kantcentrum, using a 
cork trivet for a pillow, as we were camping in Belgium.  After going to the 
wonderful museum in Kortrijk [sp?] he showed interest, and I made it available 
to him.  

Doing your lacemaking in public, on vacation, in groups at the train station, 
or in the park, or outside the quilt museum, could make a difference.  

Making lace at home, while the backbone of what we do, does not create more 
lacemakers.  

Lyn in Lancaster, thunderstorm, Pennsylvania.


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>To: dmt11h...@aol.com, lace@arachne.com
>Subject: Re: [lace] Fiber familiarity
>
> dmt11h...@aol.com wrote: 
>I find it rather discouraging that the children are not interested in bobbin
>lace and the adults say it is "too tedious". Is there some way we could
>demonstrate bobbin lace that would not provoke the "tedious" response? 
>
>When someone ask if it's tedious, I say, "I do this for fun--by definition, 
>it's not tedious."  WHen they say it must take patience, I say, "I have no 
>patience.  I don't do things that take patience."  If they say it's too hard 
>to see, I tell them about my friend who is blind and makes lovely bobbin lace.
>
>I like to bring a wide (50 pr) torchon piece to demonstrate.  Then when they 
>say it's too complicated, I show them how, no matter how many pairs on are the 
>pillow, I only use 2 pairs at a time; I point out the pinholes on the pattern; 
>the next pinhole that needs working is the one farthest from me; there's a 
>pair coming from above-left and another pair coming from above-right to meet 
>at that pinhole; then I show them how simple cross and twist are.
>
>Whenever I demonstrate bobbin lace, there are always kids who are fascinated.  
>I try to always have a "try it" pillow and talk them through a basic pattern.  
>There's almost always at least one who wants to spend the rest of the 
>afternoon at the try-it pillow.  I've also had adults pull up a chair so they 
>can watch me longer and more carefully.
>
>So yes, there is a lot of apathy out there, but there's still interest.  There 
>are men (generally engineers) who are quite intrigued but are unwilling to do 
>"sissy work".  There are women that, no matter how hard I cajole, refuse to 
>try the try-it pillow because "I'll just mess it up".  But there are women who 
>ask for class information, too.  And there are kids who get their parents to 
>start taking them to lace meetings and lace classes.
>
>
>Robin
>
>Dusting is tedious; making lace is engrossing!
>
>Robin P.
>Los Angeles, California, USA
>robinl...@socal.rr.com
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Re: [lace] Fiber familiarity

2010-08-11 Thread robinlace
 dmt11h...@aol.com wrote: 
I find it rather discouraging that the children are not interested in bobbin
lace and the adults say it is "too tedious". Is there some way we could
demonstrate bobbin lace that would not provoke the "tedious" response? 

When someone ask if it's tedious, I say, "I do this for fun--by definition, 
it's not tedious."  WHen they say it must take patience, I say, "I have no 
patience.  I don't do things that take patience."  If they say it's too hard to 
see, I tell them about my friend who is blind and makes lovely bobbin lace.

I like to bring a wide (50 pr) torchon piece to demonstrate.  Then when they 
say it's too complicated, I show them how, no matter how many pairs on are the 
pillow, I only use 2 pairs at a time; I point out the pinholes on the pattern; 
the next pinhole that needs working is the one farthest from me; there's a pair 
coming from above-left and another pair coming from above-right to meet at that 
pinhole; then I show them how simple cross and twist are.

Whenever I demonstrate bobbin lace, there are always kids who are fascinated.  
I try to always have a "try it" pillow and talk them through a basic pattern.  
There's almost always at least one who wants to spend the rest of the afternoon 
at the try-it pillow.  I've also had adults pull up a chair so they can watch 
me longer and more carefully.

So yes, there is a lot of apathy out there, but there's still interest.  There 
are men (generally engineers) who are quite intrigued but are unwilling to do 
"sissy work".  There are women that, no matter how hard I cajole, refuse to try 
the try-it pillow because "I'll just mess it up".  But there are women who ask 
for class information, too.  And there are kids who get their parents to start 
taking them to lace meetings and lace classes.


Robin

Dusting is tedious; making lace is engrossing!

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
robinl...@socal.rr.com

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[lace] Fiber familiarity

2010-08-11 Thread L. E. Weiss
Hi all-

Years ago, after spending an entire morning retro-lacing a wide Flanders piece
only to discover that I hadn't made a mistake in the first place, I was
surprised to realize that I wasn't upset about all of the wasted time.  I
learned more about how to look at the pattern.  It occurred to me at that
point that bobbin lace was "Yoga for the Brain" and I've thought of it that
way ever since.

I love the engineering aspect of the traveling of the lace threads and the
weaving process itself (most days).   For a recent talk on lace, I worked up a
strip of about 5 different Milanese tapes to demonstrate how you could take
the same 14 threads and produce a variety of effects.  ("See, you have the
same dance steps but you change who's dancing with whom and where they twist
and presto! a different pattern.")  I love creating something that is so
unlike other fiber arts.  The "ingredients" are a draw too--the threads and
bobbins.

I have been thinking about the IOLI's endeavors to attract younger lacers (a
dance organization I work also wants to get more young people involved!--seems
to be a common theme for many groups), but I was struck by how many of the
women I met at the recent IOLI convention had been making lace 10 years or
less--many of them beginning in retirement.   I wonder if we shouldn't also be
trying to insert ourselves in the "getting ready for retirement" seminars.
;~)
I agree that we should have photos or examples of modern pieces of lace at
demonstration events to help lure/attract more to lace classes.

And, speaking of the convention, I'll add my congratulations and thanks to the
Portland gang for a great event.  It was nice to add a few more faces to names
at the Arachne lunch (including the seemingly tireless Alice Howell) and at a
few of the other events.

regards,
Lorraine Weiss
Albany, NY

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RE: [lace] Fiber Familiarity

2010-08-11 Thread pene piip

Someone wrote:


Bobbin Lace: The Fiber Art that Blows your Mind



I would prefer to say:

Bobbin Lace: The Fiber Art that Expands MY Mind
which gives it the personal touch.

Pene in Tartu, Estonia 
who is a little stiff from picking up lots of tree sticks 
yesterday after the severe storm we experienced on Sunday.


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Re: [lace] Fiber Familiarity

2010-08-11 Thread walker . bev2
Dangerously seductive...

On , Tatman  wrote:
It is like the lacer is the conductor,
> the bobbins are the instruments, the pins and pricking are the music score
> and the lace that abounds out from it the music of a siren(Greek  
> mythology).

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RE: [lace] Fiber Familiarity

2010-08-10 Thread Noelene Lafferty
And cheaper than a psychiatrist.

...Noelene in Cooma
nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au
> 
> Bobbin Lace: Tripping out, but legal
> Bobbin Lace: Better than Glue Sniffing
> Bobbin Lace: The Fiber Art that Blows your Mind
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Re: [lace] Fiber familiarity

2010-08-10 Thread colonialartist
I think when we demo we should have a pillow with us that has a very small 
piece on with as little bobbins as we can get away with.  Also have a pillow 
with a larger piece, one that we normally do while doing demos.  Maybe let them 
have a try at the small one and see how really simple it can be. 

Faye Hegener

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Re: [lace] Fiber familiarity

2010-08-10 Thread colonialartist
I get the same exact reactions and comments.  I do the same crafts.  I find 
that kids love the wheel and get the same comments from the adults regarding 
the bobbinlace.  And of course the usual question "Oh is that tatting!"  LOL 

Faye Hegener, Drumore, PA 


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From: "Tatman" 
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Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:06:19 AM
Subject: [lace] Fiber familiarity

These past two evenings my wife and I do our annual sitting at the Community
Building at the county fair watching over the building.  While we sit we
can¹t be idle.  So we bring projects.  Sunday afternoon I brought my bobbin
lace. I brought my big bolster with a tape lace project that is half done.
 I am most known for my tatting in my area.  So I would get the usual
comments of ³Is that tatting??²  then I go into my usual dialog explaining
what I am doing and how it works.  Not too many kids stopped by to ask
questions.  Mostly adults asking questions.
Last night I decided to bring my spinning wheel and work out my ongoing
roving.  This time the adults just watched me or just passed by with a
glance.  I concluded they either knew what I was doing and didn¹t ask
questions or decided to just pass by.  The kids(of all ages) however came
right up to me asking me all types of questions about my wheel, they liked
to handle the wool.
I don¹t know if it is the apparatus that I am working with(ie. Pillow and
bobbins, or massive wheel that looks like a machine) or could it be the
project that I am working on, or the tedium of the task.  Most adults say
about my bobbin lace, ³that is too tedious, I could never do that² or ³you
have to have good eyesight to do that².  Kids don¹t say that.  No
convictions.  But when I am at my wheel, I am just sitting in a relaxed
position a good distance from the machine.  Less stressful looking???  Less
inhibiting??  Not that I am stressed or inhibited by all means when working
my bobbin lace.  I find both lacemaking and spinning relaxing.  Sometimes to
the point of almost falling asleep LOL!
Spinning I assume is most recognizable in most areas and bobbin lace is not.
And the "machine" you work on can also play a role in that.  Most adults
know what a spinning wheel is, but I find that kids may not if not exposed
to that part of life history.  Harder is it to find the familiarity in
bobbin lace and its tools.  I get the same wonder from passer-bys but the
clientelle is different.

Tonight is our last night for bringing our projects to work on while we sit
at the building demonstrating.  I plan on bringing my bobbin lace and see if
I can finish that project.  Doubt it, but I will see what more questions are
asked and from whom and what will happen ;)

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RE: [lace] Fiber familiarity

2010-08-10 Thread Sue
Jean's " I too am a puzzle solver" took me back to the first time I spoke to
the lady who was to become my lace tutor for many years, she asked me "do
you like jigsaw puzzles?" I said that I did, she said " then you will enjoy
lacemaking,  sadly now she has Alzheimer's and all the lovely lace she made
is a thing long gone from her,  sometimes life is just not fair is it?

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK

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Re: [lace] Fiber familiarity

2010-08-10 Thread Aurelia Loveman
No, dear Devon, though your sentiments are admirable, your slogan is not. Of 
the four words in 
the slogan, "tedious" is by far the most immediately conspicuous, and that is 
what would be remembered. Try again, and maybe we can all try with you.

Aurelia

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>
>I find it rather discouraging that the children are not interested in bobbin
>lace and the adults say it is "too tedious". Is there some way we could
>demonstrate bobbin lace that would not provoke the "tedious" response? Mind
>you, these people are attending a county fair, not a rave, or a convention for
>people with short attention spans.
>The IOLI has professed a desire to recruit more members, especially youngish
>ones. I suggest that we adopt the slogan, "Lace, it's not tedious".
>Devon
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Re: [lace] Fiber Familiarity

2010-08-10 Thread Dmt11home
In a message dated 8/10/2010 4:04:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
lhal...@bytemeusa.com writes:

As for  me, not only is it the puzzle solving aspect, but I find the actual
working  has an effect on my emotions.  It is soothing and satisfying in a  
way
that is hard to describe.  The movements are  hypnotic.
 
 
So, we are really finding altered consciousness when we do this. Like zen,  
or using mind altering substances. 
 
Bobbin Lace: Tripping out, but legal
Bobbin Lace: Better than Glue Sniffing
Bobbin Lace: The Fiber Art that Blows your Mind

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[lace] Fiber familiarity

2010-08-10 Thread Lorelei Halley
Yoga with thread is a good description.

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[lace] Fiber Familiarity

2010-08-10 Thread Lorelei Halley
I think Devon and Jean Nathan both have it right.  Bobbin lace IS for puzzle
solvers.  But also showing that edgings and doileys aren't the only possible
end results may be important.  Personally I don't mind doileys, but I frame
them in clear plastic photo frames.  (protects them from the cats with fish
hooks on their feet, and allows the transparency to be evident.)

So perhaps the thing to do would be to put something on the demonstration
pillow that uses bright colors, modern in design.  Perhaps have a small
display containing neck laces (jewelry), shirts with bobbin lace pocket
decorations, small objects framed in acrylic photo frames,an edging with
corner used as a photo frame.

When somebody says it looks tedious:   the response-- HOUSEWORK IS TEDIOUS
(said with feeling) but bobbin lace is FUN.

And tell the viewers that bobbin lace is puzzle solving of a very complex
kind.  Not only do all the pieces have to be placed in the right position, but
you have to place them in position in a certain sequence time-wise or it won't
work.  So it is a kind of 3 dimensional puzzle even though the product has
only 2 dimensions.

As for me, not only is it the puzzle solving aspect, but I find the actual
working has an effect on my emotions.  It is soothing and satisfying in a way
that is hard to describe.  The movements are hypnotic.
Lorelei

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Re: [lace] Fiber familiarity

2010-08-10 Thread Dmt11home
Bobbin Lace: The Fiber Art for Puzzle solvers
Bobbin Lace: Puzzles in thread
Bobbin Lace: Fiber Art for the Active Mind. 
Bobbin Lace: The Fiber Art that tests your ingenuity. You don't know  where 
it will take you.
 
In a message dated 8/10/2010 2:45:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
j...@nathan54.freeserve.co.uk writes:
 
I like  the process rather than the finished items. I too am a puzzle  
solver.

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[lace] Fiber familiarity

2010-08-10 Thread Jean Nathan
I find people think we just make edgings and doilies and they aren't 
interested in them - they're old fashioned. I point out that I've only made 
an edging a couple of times and the same for doilies (mats). They then say, 
well what do you make then? I answer with examples such as Christmas 
decorations, wedding garters, hand fans, pictures, photo frames, 3D fantasy 
flowers, earrings and pendants, cake frills. That usually gets a raised 
eyebrow and "Really? I didn't realise that. But it looks so complicated with 
all those bobbins."


"Doesn't matter how many bobbins you have on the pillow, you usually only 
work with 4 at a time, weaving one pair through the next pair, through the 
next pair, and so on."


But it still doesn't often make them want to spend hours actually doing it.

I like the process rather than the finished items. I too am a puzzle 
solver.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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Re: [lace] Fiber familiarity

2010-08-10 Thread dmt11home
I find it rather discouraging that the children are not interested in bobbin
lace and the adults say it is "too tedious". Is there some way we could
demonstrate bobbin lace that would not provoke the "tedious" response? Mind
you, these people are attending a county fair, not a rave, or a convention for
people with short attention spans.
The IOLI has professed a desire to recruit more members, especially youngish
ones. I suggest that we adopt the slogan, "Lace, it's not tedious".
Devon

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Fw: Re: [lace] Fiber familiarity

2010-08-10 Thread lynrbailey
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>From: lynrbai...@desupernet.net
>Sent: Aug 10, 2010 11:33 AM
>To: Tatman 
>Subject: Re: [lace] Fiber familiarity
>
>Mark, what a discerning observation.  I looked you up on facebook, and you're 
>in Illinois? Doesn't matter what you're known for, if Americans see bobbin 
>lace, they think it's tatting, but they don't necessarily know what tatting 
>is, just that Grandma, or Great Aunt Gracie did it.  I love the Chesapeake 
>Region Lace Guild, who have a tatter demonstrating the difference between what 
>she's doing, and what everyone else is doing when they demonstrate at the 
>Smithsonian.  
> Good for you for getting out there and exposing the American public to 
> fiberarts of all sorts, especially bobbin lace.  I got into making bobbin 
> lace from one demonstration at a craft fair, and never looked back.  Who 
> knows whom you will inspire.  I believe I saw it as a child in Brussels when 
> we were vacationing, but I have no recollection of it, although I remember my 
> mother buying lace doilies in Brussels for the living room.  I think most 
> Americans have come across spinning, we learned about it with the lifestyle 
> of the Pilgrims and all that, so kids might be more attuned to that craft.  
> Not sure why the dichotomy between onlookers and questioners, but it's a 
> fascinating observation.  
>
>Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, where we're expecting a high of 95F, 31C? 
>Anyway, really hot.  
>
>
>-Original Message-----
>>From: Tatman 
>>Sent: Aug 10, 2010 10:06 AM
>>To: Lace list , "bobbinl...@yahoogroups.com" 
>>
>>Subject: [lace] Fiber familiarity
>>
>>These past two evenings my wife and I do our annual sitting at the Community
>>Building at the county fair watching over the building.  While we sit we
>>can¹t be idle.  So we bring projects.  Sunday afternoon I brought my bobbin
>>lace. I brought my big bolster with a tape lace project that is half done.
>> I am most known for my tatting in my area.  So I would get the usual
>>comments of ³Is that tatting??²  then I go into my usual dialog explaining
>>what I am doing and how it works.  Not too many kids stopped by to ask
>>questions.  Mostly adults asking questions.
>>Last night I decided to bring my spinning wheel and work out my ongoing
>>roving.  This time the adults just watched me or just passed by with a
>>glance.  I concluded they either knew what I was doing and didn¹t ask
>>questions or decided to just pass by.  The kids(of all ages) however came
>>right up to me asking me all types of questions about my wheel, they liked
>>to handle the wool.
>>I don¹t know if it is the apparatus that I am working with(ie. Pillow and
>>bobbins, or massive wheel that looks like a machine) or could it be the
>>project that I am working on, or the tedium of the task.  Most adults say
>>about my bobbin lace, ³that is too tedious, I could never do that² or ³you
>>have to have good eyesight to do that².  Kids don¹t say that.  No
>>convictions.  But when I am at my wheel, I am just sitting in a relaxed
>>position a good distance from the machine.  Less stressful looking???  Less
>>inhibiting??  Not that I am stressed or inhibited by all means when working
>>my bobbin lace.  I find both lacemaking and spinning relaxing.  Sometimes to
>>the point of almost falling asleep LOL!
>>Spinning I assume is most recognizable in most areas and bobbin lace is not.
>>And the "machine" you work on can also play a role in that.  Most adults
>>know what a spinning wheel is, but I find that kids may not if not exposed
>>to that part of life history.  Harder is it to find the familiarity in
>>bobbin lace and its tools.  I get the same wonder from passer-bys but the
>>clientelle is different.
>>
>>Tonight is our last night for bringing our projects to work on while we sit
>>at the building demonstrating.  I plan on bringing my bobbin lace and see if
>>I can finish that project.  Doubt it, but I will see what more questions are
>>asked and from whom and what will happen ;)
>>
>>-- 
>>Mark, aka Tatman
>>website: http://www.tat-man.net
>>blog: http://tat-man.net/blog
>>Magic Thread Shop: http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/tatshop/tatshop.html
>>email: tat...@tat-man.net
>>Facebook:  http://www.facebook.com/tatmantats
>>
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[lace] Fiber familiarity

2010-08-10 Thread Tatman
These past two evenings my wife and I do our annual sitting at the Community
Building at the county fair watching over the building.  While we sit we
can¹t be idle.  So we bring projects.  Sunday afternoon I brought my bobbin
lace. I brought my big bolster with a tape lace project that is half done.
 I am most known for my tatting in my area.  So I would get the usual
comments of ³Is that tatting??²  then I go into my usual dialog explaining
what I am doing and how it works.  Not too many kids stopped by to ask
questions.  Mostly adults asking questions.
Last night I decided to bring my spinning wheel and work out my ongoing
roving.  This time the adults just watched me or just passed by with a
glance.  I concluded they either knew what I was doing and didn¹t ask
questions or decided to just pass by.  The kids(of all ages) however came
right up to me asking me all types of questions about my wheel, they liked
to handle the wool.
I don¹t know if it is the apparatus that I am working with(ie. Pillow and
bobbins, or massive wheel that looks like a machine) or could it be the
project that I am working on, or the tedium of the task.  Most adults say
about my bobbin lace, ³that is too tedious, I could never do that² or ³you
have to have good eyesight to do that².  Kids don¹t say that.  No
convictions.  But when I am at my wheel, I am just sitting in a relaxed
position a good distance from the machine.  Less stressful looking???  Less
inhibiting??  Not that I am stressed or inhibited by all means when working
my bobbin lace.  I find both lacemaking and spinning relaxing.  Sometimes to
the point of almost falling asleep LOL!
Spinning I assume is most recognizable in most areas and bobbin lace is not.
And the "machine" you work on can also play a role in that.  Most adults
know what a spinning wheel is, but I find that kids may not if not exposed
to that part of life history.  Harder is it to find the familiarity in
bobbin lace and its tools.  I get the same wonder from passer-bys but the
clientelle is different.

Tonight is our last night for bringing our projects to work on while we sit
at the building demonstrating.  I plan on bringing my bobbin lace and see if
I can finish that project.  Doubt it, but I will see what more questions are
asked and from whom and what will happen ;)

-- 
Mark, aka Tatman
website: http://www.tat-man.net
blog: http://tat-man.net/blog
Magic Thread Shop: http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/tatshop/tatshop.html
email: tat...@tat-man.net
Facebook:  http://www.facebook.com/tatmantats

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