[lace] Russian Tape Lace

[beth]

One book which I don't think has been mentioned is Bridget Cook's "Russian 
Lace Making", which has an introductory section explaining the techniques 
followed by plenty of patterns. The instructions look fairly clear and 
comprehensive (I have a copy but have never got round to using it).

Anyone know whether it's in print at the moment?

Beth

In a beautifully sunny Cheshire, England - I have been enjoying all sorts of 
flowers/blossom - hawthorn, bluebells, horse chestnut "candles", and many 
more - which shouldn't be out so far north until well into next month.

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[lace] Russian tape lace

[Lorelei Halley]

Those who love Russian bobbin lace will enjoy this:
https://picasaweb.google.com/116123880781256601574/2010#
Lorelei

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[lace] Russian tape lace

[Noelene & Bill Lafferty]

Late last year I did a class in Russian tape lace with Nadine Pauwels
when she was visiting Australia.  Among the lace pieces she brought
for display, were some beautiful tape lace mats including a circular
one about 2 ft (80 cm) in diameter and some long rectangular mats.

Does anyone know what type of pillow these are made on, and how
they are made?   Are they constantly taken off the pillow and repinned,
and if so, is the pricking one large one or several small ones like a
jigsaw puzzle?

Pictures of the mats are included on the website
http://www.artofil.be/uk/index.php
Go to "Gallery" and her pictures of her visit to Australia.

Noelene in Cooma
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[lace] Russian Tape lace,

[Miriam]

When I started off with bobbin lace I worked on a bolster pillow . 
When the design was too big we just went around the pillow another 
time, pinning the  layer over the pervious one. We kind of rolled the 
pattern and the lace over and over until the  pattern was done.



Miriam

Arad, Israel

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[lace] Russian Tape Lace

[A Thompson]

About five years ago I went on a Waterways of Russia tour, a delightful
journey in a boat gliding along the canals, rivers and lakes that joined
Moscow to St. Petersburg.  I was with my dear friend Pat, who sadly died a
couple of years ago.  I remember listening to the nightingales singing in the
birch trees along the banks as the midnight sun still shone long after 11 pm.

In the north we stopped at the lakeside in the Vologda region and were lucky
to see the lace-workers, even in the the cold climate, outide working at their
bolster pillows which were set with the long side at the front and were worked
round as the pattern progressed.  I recall this thread being discused a while
ago and remember sending Lori some photos of the lace workers and the actual
tape lace I purchased from them, on her web-site.  I bought a mat, a butterfly
and an angel.  I used the angel pattrn for my Romanian Point Lace book and
there are similar designs in a recent book on lace angels.

Angela in foggy, cilly, frosty Worcestershire UK.

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[lace] Russian tape lace

[Susan]

Does this lace ever use a pivot pin?  Or are all turns made like regular tape 
lace?  I've got a very tight curve.  Many thanks for any suggestions.  
Sincerely, Susan Hottle USA

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[lace] Russian tape lace

[Susan]

Thanks for your words of encouragement!  The pivot pin seemed like the obvious 
technique to use, but I was reluctant because I don't recall ever seeing it 
used in samples of the lace.  The only book I own is Vologda but I don't have 
it with me now so can't check.  Makes me wonder what technique they 
traditionally used if pivot pin is not part of their vocabulary.  With only six 
pairs, one of which is the gimp, there weren't enough threads to work multiple 
temporary pins as in Idrija.  So--pivot pin it is!  Thanks for helping!  
Sincerely, Susan Hottle USA 

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[lace] Russian tape lace

[Susan]

Thank you all for solving my problem!  After viewing Lorelei's diagrams & pg 
147 of Practical Skills, I understand what tripped me up.  I had Idrija on the 
brain--where each successive passive is used as the weaver following a 
temporary pin.  That didn't work with 6 prs in which one pair was gimp.  The 
Lorelei & Cook diagrams are like the turns used for the MJ salamandre & I 
failed to recognize the connection.  Tunnel vision here!  Malvary, I do like 
your ten stick idea as it would be quick to work & perhaps less likely that I  
would get confused about what pair to use next.  Thanks for saving me from 
myself ladies!   Sincerely , Susan Hottle USA

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[lace] Russian tape lace book

[A . González]

Hello all.

I am very interested in Russian bobbin lace, and have seen a book on
Vologda's grounds. The book is
*The Technique of Vologda Lace*, by Vera Cockuyt.  As I haven't seen the
book, I would like to have some references before buying it. Do any of you
have the book or know it? I would like to know if it includes diagrams,
explanations, pictures, patterns, etc. Any information is welcome.

Greetings from

Antje, in Spain.

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Re: [lace] Russian tape lace

[Lorri Ferguson]

I have seen large mats done both on a large pillow and by using just a segment
(slightly over 1 repeat) on a smaller pillow.  Sometimes the pricking itself
might determine how one did it.

Using a pricking segment would not be much different than 'moving up' on
yardage pieces.  Well, maybe a few more pins/holes to line up.

Lorri
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  Subject: [lace] Russian tape lace


  Late last year I did a class in Russian tape lace with Nadine Pauwels
  when she was visiting Australia.  Among the lace pieces she brought
  for display, were some beautiful tape lace mats including a circular
  one about 2 ft (80 cm) in diameter and some long rectangular mats.

  Does anyone know what type of pillow these are made on, and how
  they are made?   Are they constantly taken off the pillow and repinned,
  and if so, is the pricking one large one or several small ones like a
  jigsaw puzzle?

  Pictures of the mats are included on the website
  http://www.artofil.be/uk/index.php<http://www.artofil.be/uk/index.php>
  Go to "Gallery" and her pictures of her visit to Australia.

  Noelene in Cooma
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Re: [lace] Russian tape lace

[bevw]

I don't know for sure but I think such mats could  be made on bolster
pillows, which give more leverage on making the bigger pieces. You can
have quite a long, round bolster, and/or you can move the pattern
about as required. Or - you build on the lace in units or piecework.

> Does anyone know what type of pillow these are made on, and how
> they are made?   Are they constantly taken off the pillow and repinned,
> and if so, is the pricking one large one or several small ones like a
> jigsaw puzzle?
>
> Pictures of the mats are included on the website
> http://www.artofil.be/uk/index.php
> Go to "Gallery" and her pictures of her visit to Australia.
>
>

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bye for now
Bev in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada)
Cdn. floral bobbins
www.woodhavenbobbins.com

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Fw: [lace] Russian tape lace

[Dorte Tennison]

sorry again, had to go to the list, not private.


have a look on thise pages, the last is a picture of 2 weman who is 
lacéing, and no 2 adress, there is right at the bottom  numbers of photos


http://lace.lacefairy.com/Articles/RussianLace.html

http://www.cultinfo.ru/decor_e/right.htm

http://www.cultinfo.ru/decor_e/img/005.jpg

Thouse big round table cloth's are made in 3-4 rounds (turns) and made on 
roller pillows

Dorte Dk.


I have seen large mats done both on a large pillow and by using just a 
segment
(slightly over 1 repeat) on a smaller pillow.  Sometimes the pricking 
itself

might determine how one did it.

Using a pricking segment would not be much different than 'moving up' on
yardage pieces.  Well, maybe a few more pins/holes to line up.

Lorri
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 Late last year I did a class in Russian tape lace with Nadine Pauwels
 when she was visiting Australia.  Among the lace pieces she brought
 for display, were some beautiful tape lace mats including a circular
 one about 2 ft (80 cm) in diameter and some long rectangular mats.

 Does anyone know what type of pillow these are made on, and how
 they are made?   Are they constantly taken off the pillow and repinned,
 and if so, is the pricking one large one or several small ones like a
 jigsaw puzzle?

 Pictures of the mats are included on the website
 http://www.artofil.be/uk/index.php<http://www.artofil.be/uk/index.php>
 Go to "Gallery" and her pictures of her visit to Australia.

 Noelene in Cooma
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RE: [lace] Russian tape lace

[Clay Blackwell]

Thank you, Noelene, for pointing us to that website!  The pictures were
stunning, and I can well understand your interest in learning more about
how to make this lace!  I'll be interested to see the answers others have
for you!

Clay

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>
> Late last year I did a class in Russian tape lace with Nadine Pauwels
> when she was visiting Australia.  Among the lace pieces she brought
> for display, were some beautiful tape lace mats including a circular
> one about 2 ft (80 cm) in diameter and some long rectangular mats.
>
> Does anyone know what type of pillow these are made on, and how
> they are made?   Are they constantly taken off the pillow and repinned,
> and if so, is the pricking one large one or several small ones like a
> jigsaw puzzle?
>
> Pictures of the mats are included on the website
> http://www.artofil.be/uk/index.php
> Go to "Gallery" and her pictures of her visit to Australia.
>
> Noelene in Cooma
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Re: [lace] Russian tape lace

[Pene Piip]

Noelene, here is the web-site of a Russian lacemaker who lives in Narva, 
Estonia. She uses a big bolster pillow & handles the bobbins "palm-up".






Penelope Piip
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Where it is -25C here today  & colder weather is forecast for the weekend.

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Re: [lace] Russian tape lace

[Ilske Thomsen]

Hello Noelene,
A teacher of mine who knew some ladies from Wologda exolained it to me. 
They have there very long and big rolls bigger then those from 
Erzgebirge. And on those big lace-pieces are two or more lacers working 
at the same time.

Hope this helps.

Greetings
Ilske

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Re: [lace] Russian tape lace

[Weronika Patena]

That's how I saw it done in Poland too, except that the bolster pillows
were even bigger.

Weronika

On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 01:35:28PM +0200, Pene Piip wrote:
> Noelene, here is the web-site of a Russian lacemaker who lives in Narva, 
> Estonia. She uses a big bolster pillow & handles the bobbins "palm-up".
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Penelope Piip
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> City of Tartu, Estonia
> Where it is -25C here today  & colder weather is forecast for the weekend.
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Re: [lace] Russian tape lace

[Clay Blackwell]

Yes indeed!  In tight places they be used three or four times, if not more!

Clay

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> On Jan 5, 2017, at 10:02 AM, Susan  wrote:
> 
> Does this lace ever use a pivot pin?  Or are all turns made like regular tape 
> lace?  I've got a very tight curve.  Many thanks for any suggestions.  
> Sincerely, Susan Hottle USA
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RE: [lace] Russian tape lace

[Lorelei Halley]

Susan
Yes, Russian tape lace uses a pivot pin. There are several ways of doing
fudge stitches to help you get around a very tight curve. Sometimes called
"turning stitches". The one that appears in the DMC book on tape lace is the
one I use most, and I describe it on my website.
http://lynxlace.com/learningbobbinlace-basics.html#turningstitch 

One of these days I'm going to put up my diagrams of the other methods that
I know of.
Lorelei

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Does this lace ever use a pivot pin?  Or are all turns made like regular
tape lace?  I've got a very tight curve.  

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RE: [lace] Russian tape lace

[Lorelei Halley]

Susan
Here are a few links to one of my teaching laces from my website, which uses
the turning stitch I just described in my previous email.
http://lynxlace.com/images-h-det-diag/T14curves.JPG  detail
http://lynxlace.com/images/T14.jpgwhole thing
Lorelei

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Re: [lace] Russian tape lace

[Malvary]

What I like to do if it is a tight turn is to work to the inside of the curve, 
do one twist then leave that pair -no pin.  **Pick up the last passive pair you 
worked through and use it as the worker out to the edge and back to the middle 
going through all pairs, one twist on the worker.  Repeat from ** until you are 
round your curve.  This similar to ten stick worked in Honiton. This will not 
work if you are using lots of colours 

Malvary in a bitterly cold Ottawa, and forecast is for colder temperatures 
tomorrow 

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