[lace] Tonder book

2006-02-22 Thread Jean Nathan

Alice wrote:

I've been shopping for a Tonder book since I wish to
take a class in the subject.

There's another currently for sale, obviously at a high price because there 
is a reserve. Ebay reserves now have to be GBP50 or more, so it's pointless 
bidding less.


If the Skovgaard book is only available to the UK, it usually sells for 
between GBP20 and GBP35 - I've seen it as low as GBP12. As soon as it's 
offered worldwide, then the bids rockets, and if you click on the number 
beside the winning bidder's ID, you usually find it's been sold to the US. 
That's probably why the current seller (item number 8384196425) is confident 
he/she'll get in excess of GBP50.


If you have friend in the UK, write to a seller who will only ship to the UK 
(usually because they won't accept payment in currencies other than 
sterling) and ask if your friend can pay the seller in sterling for you if 
you win, but post the book it to you. Then reimburse your friend somehow - 
easy of they have a Paypal account. Needs to be a friend in case there are 
problems like it going missing in the post.


Or get a friend to bid and pay for the book and then sell it to you for the 
same price as paid plus postages.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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Re: [lace] Tonder book

2006-02-22 Thread Barbara Joyce
Another possibility with ebay. I'm in the US and have occasionally been
alerted to an ebay item that says in the listing the UK seller will ship
only to the UK. Assuming there's time, I have written to the seller and
asked if they would be willing to ship to the US (and if so, what the
shipping cost would be). Paypal is an easy way for a US buyer to pay the
seller in GBP. There are other ways, too, though--there are international
money orders, wire transfers, etc. There are, of course, fees attached to
these methods, but it is do-able.

In my case, every UK seller I've written to has said, sure, I'll ship to the
US. I don't know why they limit themselves, when, as Alice wrote, the
selling price goes way up when they open their sale to the rest of the
world.

Barbara Joyce

Snoqualmie, WA
USA

 Alice wrote:
 
 I've been shopping for a Tonder book since I wish to
 take a class in the subject.
 
 There's another currently for sale, obviously at a high price because there
 is a reserve. Ebay reserves now have to be GBP50 or more, so it's pointless
 bidding less.
 
 If the Skovgaard book is only available to the UK, it usually sells for
 between GBP20 and GBP35 - I've seen it as low as GBP12. As soon as it's
 offered worldwide, then the bids rockets, and if you click on the number
 beside the winning bidder's ID, you usually find it's been sold to the US.
 That's probably why the current seller (item number 8384196425) is confident
 he/she'll get in excess of GBP50.
 
 If you have friend in the UK, write to a seller who will only ship to the UK
 (usually because they won't accept payment in currencies other than
 sterling) and ask if your friend can pay the seller in sterling for you if
 you win, but post the book it to you. Then reimburse your friend somehow -
 easy of they have a Paypal account. Needs to be a friend in case there are
 problems like it going missing in the post.
 
 Or get a friend to bid and pay for the book and then sell it to you for the
 same price as paid plus postages.
 
 Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK
 
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[lace] Tonder book summary

2006-02-22 Thread Alice Howell
Greetings again,

I thought I should write a followup of my Tonder book
problem.  First, a kind list member who had an extra
book is selling it to me, so I will soon have one.

If a person can't buy a book, suggestions came in for
borrowing one from a person's local guild, their
national guild, or the local library interlibrary
loan.

If time is not urgent, a request can be filed with the
various book sellers on line, such as Amazon,
Abebooks, Alibris, etc.  When a book becomes
available, you would be notified.  If the price is
reasonable,  you can buy it.  If not, keep your
request open.  Also, a person can check on eBay weekly
to see if a new offer has come up.  Purchases are made
in a reasonable price range periodically.  

So, thank you for all the comments, suggestions and
offers.  I shall be ready for my Tonder class when the
time comes.

Alice in Oregon -- expecting a nice weekend for lace meeting

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[lace] Tonder book

2006-02-21 Thread Alice Howell
Greetings all,

I've been shopping for a Tonder book since I wish to
take a class in the subject.  Amazon has 'Technique of
Tonder Lace' for $451.00.  The seller claims that it's
the going price for the demand on this book.  () 
I asked because I thought the price was a typing
error.

One just sold on eBay for $72, and another book
company has one at $197.00 -- which is still a lot.

If anyone has this book, and wants to sell it, there's
a market for it.  If anyone knows a dealer who has
one, I'd like to know. I'd like one, but my pocket
snake protests at extreme prices.

Or ... if anyone has a recommendation of a similar
book, in English, I'd be interested in that, also.

Hopefully,
Alice in Oregon -- with weather back to usual after a
cold spell

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Re: [lace] Tonder book/abebooks

2005-09-25 Thread Barbara Joyce
I've ordered through Abebooks several times. The only problem I've had is
that once or twice after I've placed my order, I got an email back saying,
Sorry, the book is no longer available.

Almost all of the books I've ordered were from overseas, and no problems
with credit card payments or delivery times.

Barbara Joyce
Snoqualmie, WA
USA

 Think I did it again and sent to chat instead of lace. So here it is again:
 
 I've used Abebooks a lot to track down books, but I've never used their
 services to obtain a book I was interested in. I've always contacted the
 bookseller direct, either by phone or by email, and dealt with them. Some
 accept credit/debit cards, other want a cheque. In 20 plus purchases, I've
 never had a problem doing it this way, even purchasing from overseas.
 
 Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK
 
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[lace-chat] Re: [lace] Tonder book/abebooks

2005-09-25 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 9/25/2005 8:36:14 AM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 I've ordered through Abebooks several times. The only problem I've had is
 that once or twice after I've placed my order, I got an email back saying,
 Sorry, the book is no longer available.


Hi All --

I've had success dealing with ABE before, too -- but the thing  I found out 
is that the honest and successful handling of any book order through AbeBooks 
or AddAll is totally dependent on the actual ultimate bookseller. These are not 
book companies, but only web-listing services. I also discovered, after the 
fact, that ABE does not have any phone numbers listed on its contact page 
(although a bookseller gave me a phone number) and its headquarters are located 
in 
Canada. I don't know what kind of recourse someone would have, if they miss 
ABE's 30-day cancellation policy, dealing with international law, etc.

After talking with a bookseller about this, I found out ABE and AddAll do not 
require any kind of assurances from the booksellers they list, or conduct any 
kind of quality checking. As she said, real booksellers are very upset about 
it, because these web services will post listing for anyone or his dog, if 
they are willing to pay the listing fee. 

As I discovered, IF there is a problem, AddAll is NOT a real company at all, 
and there is NO assistance from them. ABEBooks is a little better, but not 
much. 

I went through three cycles of complaints, at all three levels (AddAll, 
ABEBooks and the third seller in NM). Nothing was really resolved until I was 
forced to cancel the credit card charge. After that, the bookseller lied, 
telling 
ABEBooks that s/he had tried to contact me numerous times, which was totally 
false, and I could prove it. 

Midway through my ordeal, which lasted 3 months, I asked my ex-FIL who lives 
in NM to try calling that third bookseller for me. He found out there is no 
listing for them in the phone book, and they also did not respond to his voice 
mail messages, as they had not to mine, also.

Apparently, this is not a real bookseller, but someone who orders books from 
someone else when s/he feels like getting around to filling an order.

This is a real risk for people dealing with companies listed on ABE or 
AddAll -- tge bookseller may or may not be a real bookseller, at all.

That's why people are better off contacting the listed bookseller directly, 
and make sure there is actually someone there, who will respond to your order 
in an honest fashion.

Regards,
Ricki
Utah

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Re: [lace] Tonder book

2003-11-21 Thread Jeriames
In a message dated 11/19/03 2:37:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Does anyone know if there really is an English translation for the
 Tonderkniplinger 2 book by Inge Skovgaard?  I'm getting contradictory
 answers from UK suppliers.
  
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Dear Lacemakers,

It seems to me that Angela Thompson wrote to Arachne about 6 months ago that 
Batsford was considering putting out both 1 and 2 in English if there was 
adequate demand.  It depended on how many responses to her inquiry she received.

You will recall that she wrote to Arachne this week that her computer was 
malfunctioning, and that she had many digests backed up - to be read.  I have a 
feeling she will eventually get to your inquiry, and we will all receive a 
status report after she checks on the status from Batsford.

Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

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[lace] Tonder book

2003-11-19 Thread Annette Gill
Does anyone know if there really is an English translation for the
Tonderkniplinger 2 book by Inge Skovgaard?  I'm getting contradictory
answers from UK suppliers.

Regards,
Annette, London

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