Re: [lace] questions for you lace makers living in California in the 1980s

[robinlace]

My mom took a bobbin lace class in the mid-80's.  This was in the San Fernando 
Valley (NW Los Angeles County).  The teacher's name was Page, but I don't 
remember her last name.  The class was through a weaving store.  She must have 
been a good teacher because she let me sit in on one class when I was visiting 
from Santa Barbara.  It was the second class and I learned enough to go home 
and start making lace, and even designed a (simple) torchon pattern and made 
it.  That was my beginning, as well as Mom's.

On the other hand, we were only able to find two booklets and no books about 
bobbin lace, both of them Swedish.


Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
robinl...@socal.rr.com

Parvum leve mentes capiunt
(Little things amuse little minds)



 Sharon Ghamari-Tabrizi  wrote: 
He wants to take a class in lace making. It could be bobbin or needle lace
or both.

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Re: [lace] questions for you lace makers living in California in the 1980s

[Kim Davis]

I can see now that after removing all of the previous posts, I forgot to
leave enough so people would know which publication
I was talking about.  I have to say, this is actually the thing that has
prevented me from posting more over the years.  With Gmail,
the old email is set as hidden, so I forget to trim.   This is even more
problematic on a phone, as it is harder to find.   I try to be
so careful to trim when I do post that I managed to throw the baby out with
the bathwater.

If anyone is looking for hard copies of the eldest IOLI newsletters and pre
Bulletin items, we have the complete set in our archive
at The Lace Museum, in Sunnyvale, CA.

Kim

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 9:05 AM, Kim Davis  wrote:

> In case anyone ever wants to look at hard copies, we have the complete set
> at The Lace Museum in Sunnyvale, CA.
>
> Kim​
>
>
>

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Re: [lace] questions for you lace makers living in California in the 1980s

[Jeri Ames]

1. Michael Auclair was a good friend of mine. We were both members of the now
defunct Lace Guild of New York. I believe I was the only person in our shared
lace orbit ever invited to his upper East Side cold water walk-up flat. He was
passionate about his lace, and liked to pick my brain about embroidery, since
both lace and embroidery have often traveled together on the same textile,
whether clothing, household linens, or ecclesiastical textiles. Since
embroidery is easier to identify and date, this is important for all to know.
 
2. Has everyone forgotten that I wrote about the Kliots in California, because
of an article in the Nov./Dec. 2017 PieceWork magazine? See:
https://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/msg51462.html 
 
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

In a message dated 5/15/2018 12:11:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,
shg...@mail.harvard.edu writes:
There was a young man from New York City who was interested in lace in the
period? Michael Auclair? Does anyone know about him? Present or past? Any
phone numbers or emails? ... I could imagine Bobby meeting him

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 9:05 AM, Kim Davis  wrote:

> In case anyone ever wants to look at hard copies, we have the complete set
> at The Lace Museum in Sunnyvale, CA.
>
> Kim���

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Re: [lace] questions for you lace makers living in California in the 1980s

[Joy Beeson]

On 5/14/18 9:09 PM, Kim Davis wrote:


It is known as Lacis now, but was first called
The Lace Place.


For a time, there was a mail-order business called "Some
Place".  I had a really terrible time telling people where I 
got the things I bought from them.  I don't know *when* the 
name was changed to "Lacis", but I sure know *why*.


--
Joy Beeson
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/
west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A.
where we went straight from winter to summer.

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Re: [lace] questions for you lace makers living in California in the 1980s

[Devon Thein]

He is deceased. Sadly, I believe he was an early victim of AIDs.
Devon

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Sharon Ghamari-Tabrizi
 wrote:
> There was a young man from New York City who was interested in lace in the
> period? Michael Auclair? Does anyone know about him? Present or past? Any
> phone numbers or emails? ... I could imagine Bobby meeting him
>
> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 9:05 AM, Kim Davis  wrote:
>>
>> In case anyone ever wants to look at hard copies, we have the complete set
>> at The Lace Museum in Sunnyvale, CA.
>>
>> Kim
>>
>>
>

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Re: [lace] questions for you lace makers living in California in the 1980s

[Sharon Ghamari-Tabrizi]

There was a young man from New York City who was interested in lace in the
period? Michael Auclair? Does anyone know about him? Present or past? Any
phone numbers or emails? ... I could imagine Bobby meeting him

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 9:05 AM, Kim Davis  wrote:

> In case anyone ever wants to look at hard copies, we have the complete set
> at The Lace Museum in Sunnyvale, CA.
>
> Kim​
>
>
>

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Re: [lace] questions for you lace makers living in California in the 1980s

[Kim Davis]

In case anyone ever wants to look at hard copies, we have the complete set
at The Lace Museum in Sunnyvale, CA.

Kim​

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Re: [lace] questions for you lace makers living in California in the 1980s

[Bev Walker]

Hello Devon

The online source is the weaving archive, subsection documents relating to
lace, search Periodicals.
The archive url is in the link I posted.

(I hope you understand, I'm keying this from my iPod)

Good to know further information on the young man in New York!

Bev in Shirley BC west coast of Canada
On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 5:08 AM Devon Thein  wrote:

> Dear Bev,
> You seem to have a set of pdf's of the IOLI Bulletin? Are these
> available somewhere?
>
> --
Sent from my iPod

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Re: [lace] questions for you lace makers living in California in the 1980s

[Devon Thein]

Dear Bev,
You seem to have a set of pdf's of the IOLI Bulletin? Are these
available somewhere?
The young man from New York City who teaches lacemaking would have
been Michael Auclair. He was very interested in the Ipswich laces, and
Irish laces, too, I think. He did some lace appraising, even for
museums. I did not know him, but he was a member of local lace groups
and was well-known to people I knew.
Devon

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Re: [lace] questions for you lace makers living in California in the 1980s

[Bev Walker]

Hello Sharon and everyone

Could your protagonist drive to San Bernardino? In this 1981 issue of the
IOLI Bulletin, there is an article, page 13 of the pdf, about the forming
of a new group of bobbin lacers, the Cross Twisters of San Bernadino,
wherein they invite anyone in the area of the County Museum to join them.
In the same issue, page 8 of the pdf, mention is made of ".One young man
from New York City...teaches lacemaking..." - perhaps your protagonist
connects with him while in New York in 1985 :)

Maybe your protagonist finds inspiration at the family-run retail shop
Lacis, for lace and the textile arts (it is now a museum of lace and
textiles). It was a busy place in the 1980's.
http://lacismuseum.org/kaethe/

Hope this helps.

On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 4:26 PM, Sharon Ghamari-Tabrizi <
shg...@mail.harvard.edu> wrote:

> ...
> SO: I would, of course, like to be historically accurate. I would like to
> show how rare the classes were. (but I do have to have Bobby actually take
> a class!)
> ...
> Any lace suppliers at the time?
>
>
-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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Re: [lace] questions for you lace makers living in California in the 1980s

[Kim Davis]

He probably would have met up with Kaethe Kliot (please double check
spelling of her first name) from Lacis in Berkeley.  It is known as Lacis
now, but was first called The Lace Place.  I do not know when the name
changed precisely offhand, but you should be able to search that easily
enough.  Kaethe passed more than a decade ago, but her husband is still at
the business.  I would be happy to meet you there sometime.  From where you
live, it is easy to go by BART.  The shop is less than a block from the
station.

 There was a guild in San Francisco, although they were fairly
insulated.  It was a tight friendship group and unlikely he would have been
invited into the fold.  Only one member survives, and she is a bit North of
San Francisco.
 The next closest place would have been Village Spinning and Weaving.
This is a shop in the adorable Dutch settlement of Solvang.  They closed
their retail last summer, but are still around and selling online as they
sell off their stock.

 This generation of lacemakers is rapidly becoming exctint in our area,
so I would not delay in interviews if you wish to make them.  Please
contact me offlist if you need me to make any introductions.

Kim

On May 14, 2018 4:26 PM, "Sharon Ghamari-Tabrizi" 
wrote:

> For my novel, Bobby is attending the University of California Santa Cruz.
> It is academic year 1984-1985. (He will be spending the summer of 1985 in
> New York.)
>
> He wants to take a class in lace making. It could be bobbin or needle lace
> or both.
>
> A member of the list just wrote to me to share her story of how difficult
> it was in those days to find a bobbin lace teacher. And how expensive the
> lace classes were at the annual convention!
>
> SO: I would, of course, like to be historically accurate. I would like to
> show how rare the classes were. (but I do have to have Bobby actually take
> a class!)
>
> Do you recall if there were any lace-making teachers who lived in
> California, preferably in the Bay Area?
>
> If he needed to he would drive to LA or San Diego but he could only do that
> one time.
>
> Any lace suppliers at the time?
>
> I'd like to hear from your recollections. If it turns out that there were
> no lace classes in CA in those years, I might have to invent that rare
> teacher. (that's why they call it poetic license!) Still, it would be
> better if there was a community of lacers to name them.
>
> Thanks
> Sharon
>
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[lace] questions for you lace makers living in California in the 1980s

[Sharon Ghamari-Tabrizi]

For my novel, Bobby is attending the University of California Santa Cruz.
It is academic year 1984-1985. (He will be spending the summer of 1985 in
New York.)

He wants to take a class in lace making. It could be bobbin or needle lace
or both.

A member of the list just wrote to me to share her story of how difficult
it was in those days to find a bobbin lace teacher. And how expensive the
lace classes were at the annual convention!

SO: I would, of course, like to be historically accurate. I would like to
show how rare the classes were. (but I do have to have Bobby actually take
a class!)

Do you recall if there were any lace-making teachers who lived in
California, preferably in the Bay Area?

If he needed to he would drive to LA or San Diego but he could only do that
one time.

Any lace suppliers at the time?

I'd like to hear from your recollections. If it turns out that there were
no lace classes in CA in those years, I might have to invent that rare
teacher. (that's why they call it poetic license!) Still, it would be
better if there was a community of lacers to name them.

Thanks
Sharon

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