Re: [lace] roller pillow and lace (Maltese pillow)
Lorelei Halley wrote: I have seen many Maltese silk pieces with turned corners, but these also would be mid 19th century or just a little earlier, and I have no idea what shape of pillow was used on Malta. What today in Malta/Gozo is called a traditional pillow looks like a loaf of French/Italian bread. It is a bunch of straw wrapped in brown paper (like grocery bags!). About 4-6 inches (10-15 cm) diameter and 24 inches (60 cm) long. I don't know how far back that pillow originated. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] roller pillow lace
Hi Sue, Bev, Mary Carey - I agree with Mary Carey... the little "sausage" is easy enough to make. I made one with a short length of plastic drinking straw as a "core" to give it stability, and wrapped a bit of quilting batting (low loft) around it. Covered it with a bit of cotton that matched my cover cloths, and tied the ends with tightly wound thread. I cut the ends about 1/2 inch long, and use them to pin the sausage to the backside of the pillow. It works very well, and the best thing is that it is gentle on the lace and doesn't distort it, or create folds. Still, it's stable enough to keep it from being crushed in transit. Clay Hard at work in cold Virginia, preparing the brochure for "Lace at Sweet Briar, 2012" Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA On 12/3/2011 3:10 PM, mary carey wrote: Dear Bev, I have made two "sausages", between 1" and 11/2" (stuffed with wool wadding left over from quilting projects). The larger one I used to make a length of 41/2" torchon, the smaller one I used on my small round pillow, sure it could be used with my travel pillow. The ends of the sausage are pinned to the pillow to secure them. Mary Carey Campbelltown, NSW, Australia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] roller pillow lace
You could make a temporary 'roller' from a piece of fabric, something that would act as a core but would be more flexible than a wooden cylinder. On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Sue wrote: > Hi Bev, There is a little pocket but it is sideways on and wouldn't hold the > lace. Maybe if I where to wrap a clean hanky around it until it gets longer > but then feel it should be rolled around something so it doesn't have > creases in. > I went to bed so excited and pleased with myself, LOL. -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] roller pillow lace
Hello Sue Yay, well done on bringing the roller pillow up to speed! I've seen several roller pillows with work in progress, the finished lace going into a little drawstring bag behind the roller. One lacemaker made one from fabric that matched her cover cloth, but the others used translucent nylon gift bags such as sold at a dollar store. A roller pillow I made with the same fold-up arrangement had a pocket sewn to the back where the finished lace was meant to go. This is fine while the pillow is out and in use, when the pieces were folded up the lace wouldn't stay in the pocket. Hope this might help ;) On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Sue wrote: > I am really pleased with how it is going but need to > know the best way to store the made lace. On my block pillow I use one of the > little rolling pin shapes to roll the lace around for safe keeping but there > is no where to pin it down on this pillow. -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] roller pillow lace
Dear Bev, I have made two "sausages", between 1" and 11/2" (stuffed with wool wadding left over from quilting projects). The larger one I used to make a length of 41/2" torchon, the smaller one I used on my small round pillow, sure it could be used with my travel pillow. The ends of the sausage are pinned to the pillow to secure them. Mary Carey Campbelltown, NSW, Australia > On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Sue wrote: > > I am really pleased with how it is going but need to > > know the best way to store the made lace. On my block pillow I use one of > > the > > little rolling pin shapes to roll the lace around for safe keeping but > > there > > is no where to pin it down on this pillow. > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: > http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] roller pillow lace
Hi Bev, There is a little pocket but it is sideways on and wouldn't hold the lace. Maybe if I where to wrap a clean hanky around it until it gets longer but then feel it should be rolled around something so it doesn't have creases in. I went to bed so excited and pleased with myself, LOL. Sue T Bev wrote.. Hello Sue I've seen several roller pillows with work in progress, the finished lace going into a little drawstring bag behind the roller. One lacemaker made one from fabric that matched her cover cloth, but the others used translucent nylon gift bags such as sold at a dollar store. A roller pillow I made with the same fold-up arrangement had a pocket sewn to the back where the finished lace was meant to go. This is fine while the pillow is out and in use, when the pieces were folded up the lace wouldn't stay in the pocket. Hope this might help ;) On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Sue wrote: I am really pleased with how it is going but need to know the best way to store the made lace. On my block pillow I use one of the little rolling pin shapes to roll the lace around for safe keeping but there is no where to pin it down on this pillow. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Roller pillow
If you decide to use this kind of padding, shop carefully! Some "felt" padding these days has rough bits in it that would definitely stop a pin. Another no-no would be the non-slip coating they sometimes spray on the back. If you're going to use padding, be sure it's clean fibers/felt, with no hard slubs. Clay On 8/16/2011 1:16 AM, robinl...@socal.rr.com wrote: The rollers I've made for pillows used the fibrous-type carpet padding. That's getting harder to find, more and more carpet stores sell only the foam rubber type. The short ends should be cut at an angle (taper the material) so that there are no ridges where the padding starts and stops. The rug padding is a lot thicker than wool blankets, so it doesn't take as much tedious winding. Then a relatively short strip of wool blanket over the padding and a cover. The fibrous padding holds the pins well and is easily penetrated by them. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com lacel...@frontier.com wrote: There are ways to make long-lasting rollers, and ways that are shorter lived. The best rollers, and long lasting, are made from wool fabric, rolled around a supporting dowel. They need to be just deeper than the length of pins to be used. Thick sections of cotton fabric would be hard to pin into. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Roller pillow
The rollers I've made for pillows used the fibrous-type carpet padding. That's getting harder to find, more and more carpet stores sell only the foam rubber type. The short ends should be cut at an angle (taper the material) so that there are no ridges where the padding starts and stops. The rug padding is a lot thicker than wool blankets, so it doesn't take as much tedious winding. Then a relatively short strip of wool blanket over the padding and a cover. The fibrous padding holds the pins well and is easily penetrated by them. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com lacel...@frontier.com wrote: There are ways to make long-lasting rollers, and ways that are shorter lived. The best rollers, and long lasting, are made from wool fabric, rolled around a supporting dowel. They need to be just deeper than the length of pins to be used. Thick sections of cotton fabric would be hard to pin into. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Roller pillow
Be careful of cotton batting! I tried to make a pin cushion of several layers of a cotton mattress pad, and pins would not go through it! It was solid. Maybe this was because it was old and compacted? I don't know. I went for poly instead. Lauren On 8/15/2011 4:22 PM, Jane Partridge wrote: In message , Lorelei Halley writes I haven't tried cotton or polyesther batting. Possibly several layers of cotton quilt batting would work. But I would take a pin to the quilt store and test it -- try sticking the pin through several layers of batting to see how it feels. Cotton batting might work OK, but I can remember the advice against using polyester stuffing for pin cushions due to the effect it has on the pins - can't remember if it is just dulling or blunting as well - in which case use in a pillow would be equally bad for them. I suspect that it would be possible to purchase a second roller for the travel pillow - do they not use the size of roller that fits into a block pillow? - if so, then I would buy and use two rollers alternately to even out the wear - doing this has certainly extended the life of my block pillow blocks, which I have had for donkey's years and not had to replace yet - with no additional padding! The travel roller pillow I use most is a Finnish one, which the roller is made from tightly rolled carpet underlay (the recycled foam type) - and is showing no sign of retaining its holes or wearing out, despite a large amount of use over the last seven or eight years (I bought it the year the OIDFA congress was at Nottingham). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Roller pillow
I just recently completed a roller pillow. I used a dowel rod for the center then wrapped 100% wool felt strips around the dowel until it was the size I wanted. The 100% wool felt is more expensive than that mixed with polyester but I think the 100% works better. I found the wool on sale and had a coupon to boot so it wasn't too bad. I've been making lots of yardage lately. I don't even bother with making the pricking into a ring. I keep several prickings at hand and when I'm at the last repeat on the pricking that's on my pillow, I lay another on top for that first repeat. As the roller progresses and the pins come out of the lace and pricking, the pricking underneath comes out and waits for the next round. Dona in Guam where the seas are calm today. Might have to get in a dive or two... - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Roller pillow
Hi Everybody: > I have found that woven cotton fabric many layers thick is > actually quite resistant to pins. They won't go in far enough to be stable > and you will bend a lot of them. I have found that 100% woven wool fabric > takes pins very well I want to add that you should use loosely-woven wool fabric. I made one roller pillow with loosely-woven cloth - works great. I have another that I made with tightly-wrapped melton cloth, and no pin will go into it. It's just too solid. Adele North Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Roller pillow
I was given two used Swedish pillows, where the rollers were too soft to hold the pins. I use a single layer of a foam sheet, cut to size and pinned to fit. http://www.michaels.com/Creatology%E2%84%A2-Foam-Sheets/gc1328,default,pd.html?start=16&cgid=products-generalcrafts-foam I would guess that you could get this in a craft store in the UK. it costs around $1 / sheet here in America. So is a very inexpensive solution, and seems to last a long time. I have been many times round the roller and the foam sheet is still in good condition (and won't be cheap or difficult to replace when I need to do that) Sue sueba...@comcast.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Roller pillow
There are ways to make long-lasting rollers, and ways that are shorter lived. The best rollers, and long lasting, are made from wool fabric, rolled around a supporting dowel. They need to be just deeper than the length of pins to be used. Thick sections of cotton fabric would be hard to pin into. To temporarily extend the life of a foam roller, a few rounds of wool on top of the foam should add a bit of time. The pins wouldn't go as far into the foam so it would take longer to break down. However, I think it's more time effective to make a good roller from the start. The super-dense foam used in the UK will last longer than standard styrofoam but not as long as ethafoam used in the USA. However, in the USA I've found some rollers being made from the foam used for swimming pool toys (pool noodles). These don't last any time at all. They are nice for a one-time project, but not for repeated use. Test the wool by making a thick pad and poking it with a pin. The pin should go in easily but be held firmly in place, no wiggling. It's possible to disassemble a roller carefully, remove the outside covering, and replace the inside material. I did it on one roller. I just cut strips from an old wool jacket. I never thought about felting it. It should be a tightly woven wool fabric. Shrinking the wool would make it denser. As long as the wool moths stay out of it, a wool roller should last a life time. Polystyrene develops a hole whenever a pin goes in it. Hundreds of pinholes will break down the surface of the foam. One company who makes foam pillows will put a layer of dust of some sort on the top of the foam, under the cover. The theory is that the dust will filter into the holes and fill them up, at least for a while...thus extending the life of the pillow. The fact of life with polystyrene is that it has a limited working life. When the working surface gets broken down, the pillow needs replaced. There's no way to refurbish it. (I wish the ethafoam pillows were available to everyone. I've been using one for 18 years and it's still going strong. With ethafoam, the holes close up when the pin is pulled out. It takes many years to wear down the working surface.) Life of the roller could be extended a bit by working patterns that have fewer pinholes (Torchon rather than Bucks) so there are fewer holes made per square inch. Also, use different areas of the roller, not always just the very center section. This is a very temporary solution. Have fun with your travel pillow. Alice - Original Message - From: "Sue" I have read in the past of the various ways that people help preserve the surface of a roller pillow... this one I would suspect is polystyrene with very light wood ends. I have lots of white cotton fabric I could cut a strip off and wrap around if that would help. What depth would I need to use save the polystyrene from going soft which is what has happened with my block pillows. I think I remember reading about shrinking the fabric first? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Roller pillow
Thank you Malvary and Joepie, yesterday I mentioned to my husband that I have some woollen offcuts from a living history skirt I made a few years ago, so I am not as daft as I thought, . So I will shrink that (if you saw the skirt you would know what I mean, even on what was a gentle wash:-) I might also be tempted in the near future to make up my own roller to fit into the same space as this original, so that once I have killed it off I can swap over and use the more robust version. I will go searching my DH stash of scraps of wood and see if he has something suitable, or else send him so I dont get lost in the pile. I did remember Davids comments recently about having a bit of a loop in the pattern so the pins go into a slightly different place. I am hoping to get used to it enough and have reworked my original pattern I did for the arachne swap 3 years ago into a long strip rather than the original rectangle and then I can take it on my travels. Well I had better go and do our shopping, I cant play with my new toy because they sent the one for Austalia rather than GB, !! Sue T off to shop and sulk Sue T asked "I have read in the past of the various ways that people help preserve the surface of a roller pillow..." I think that the best thing to cover your roller with is wool fabric (old blanket or clothes cut into strips and wound as tightly as possible round the styrofoam centre. One thing you will have to consider is how much space do you have so that the roller will still fit into its space, probably not enough to fully protect the styrofoam centre. Malvary in Ottawa (the Nation's capital) where we have a grey day with more thunderboomers forecast for later. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Roller pillow
Sue T asked "I have read in the past of the various ways that people help preserve the surface of a roller pillow..." I think that the best thing to cover your roller with is wool fabric (old blanket or clothes cut into strips and wound as tightly as possible round the styrofoam centre. One thing you will have to consider is how much space do you have so that the roller will still fit into its space, probably not enough to fully protect the styrofoam centre. I would mention that when you create your pattern do make sure it is longer than the circumference of the roller so that you have a loop. This means that as you are working and unpin from the back and pin at the front the pins go into the pillow at a different place each time. I have been using my travel pillow for a long time and the weakest part is where the large holding pins go into the roller. There is a definite groove at each side but the working surface is still holding the pins quite nicely and I didn't do anything to the roller by way of padding. Malvary in Ottawa (the Nation's capital) where we have a grey day with more thunderboomers forecast for later. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] roller pillow plans
Hi Dona - When I (or I should say, my DH) built my first roller pillow, we used Pamela Nottingham's description of constructing a French roller pillow as our guide, but scaled it up to make a larger pillow, very similar to the size of Toustou's large roller pillow. The way we secured the roller was by using a wedge which was pressed into place on one side of the roller, between the wooded edge of the roller and the side of the roller box. It doesn't take a lot of pressure to put it in place, and it holds very well. An advantage to this is that it's easy to take out when you want to shift the roller a bit, or take it out of the pillow altogether. Your DH could also get creative and do some chip-carving on it to make it really attractive!! The book, "Kloppel/Kissen/Stander" (now out of print) has lots of pictures of lovely old pillows from European countries. There are numerous ways that rollers are held in place illustrated in this book. One which I find particularly elegant is a Danish pillow which has a notched section on one end and is held in place by a bit of wood which is secured to the back of the pillow. The wood is just flexible enough to bend outward enough to release the roller when you want it to turn. I will send you a picture of this in a separate email! Clay Dona B. wrote: Good evening. The list has been very quiet the last few days so after a conversation with my husband this evening discussing roller pillows, I thought I'd ask the list for input. I have a roller pillow that I made 11 years or so ago using Doris Southard's pattern. It's been a nice pillow to work on but I've figured out a few things I'd like to change. One being I'd prefer a cut out in the back of the pillow for the roller to sit in as opposed to the box it sits in now. The second, I'd like a different way to secure the roller. I have a hole cut out in the back of the wooden box to place a long hat pin through and into the roller but it is covered by the padding. Not always easy to find if the pin gets taken completely out. I've at times resorted to using a length of braid that I pin to the pillow and then to the roller. I'm looking at a more permanent way to secure the roller similar to that used on a weaving loom with a cogged wheel but can't figure what or where I'd place something to hold each notch. Are there any good plans for making such a roller pillow? I've not found any in my searches on Google. Or are there some good photos of a roller pillow with such a feature? I've found photos of Simon Toustou's lovely pillows but can't tell if one of the ends of the roller is notched or not. I have a husband who enjoys and is good at woodworking who currently has space with a workshop set up and the time to play. It's a win-win situation if he's gets to play with his wood and tools and I get a new pillow. :-) Dona Bushong in Groton, CT where it's turned quite cool tonight. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] roller pillow on ebay
This one is actually inserted in a big square surface - you can see it on the other pictures. The seller just picked a bad picture to display on the item list, since this picture doesn't show all of the pillow, but is a close-up or the small roller. A bolster pillow is just a big cylindrical one that's not inserted in anything, right? Weronika On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 02:46:49PM +1000, Ruth Budge wrote: > I make this comment simply to clarify language/terminology differences between > the various countries: This is what the English call a bolster pillow. A > roller pillow usually has a much smaller roller inserted in some sort of a flat > surface, such as round (or cookie) pillow, or part thereof. > > Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] roller pillow on ebay
I make this comment simply to clarify language/terminology differences between the various countries: This is what the English call a bolster pillow. A roller pillow usually has a much smaller roller inserted in some sort of a flat surface, such as round (or cookie) pillow, or part thereof. Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) Weronika Patena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi everyone, A roller pillow just appeared on ebay! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=19158&item=8124429573 &rd=1 I don't think I really want one, but other people might be interested. Weronika -- Weronika Patena Caltech, Pasadena, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Roller pillow
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Re: [lace] Roller pillow
Cherre Bybee wrote - > I have a student wanting to buy a roller pillow. Any suggestions on where to go? > Hi Cherre, Obviously it depends on how much she would like to spend on it but there are choices. Snowgoose sells a foam bases unit called the "One and Only" that can convert from cookie to roller at http://www.snowgoose.cc/cgi-bin/miva?Merchant2/merchant.mv+Screen=PROD&Store _Code=S&Product_Code=O3&Category_Code=P1 Lacy Susan sells the same pillow already covered at http://www.lacysusan.com/Pillows/pillows.html Tracy at The Lacemaker carries some nice roller pillows. The web site is currently being redone but you can contact her at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also sell a medium priced pillow at http://www.bobbinmaker.com/rollerpillow.html *** Kenn Van-Dieren Bobbins by Van-Dieren 2304 Clifford Avenue Rochester, NY 14609-3825 Tel: 585.654.5711 Cell: 585.750.8842 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: www.bobbinmaker.com * - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
