[lace-chat] Secret Pal
Dear Secret Pal Thank you very much for my Australian parcel. It's so nice to receive things that are 'native' to a country other than your own. I love the Koala, and the colours in the thread are just what I would have chosen myself. Now I just need enough time to finish decorating the bedroom and move the furniture back out of my workroom so I can get to the lace patterns. Joan from Yorkshire who has a large stack of wet washing, an equally large stack of neglected ironing, and it's just starting to rain again. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Bush's visit
Clay wrote: Our broadcast news isn't a commercial source. Newspapers are, but they tend to have a political bias rather than a commercial one. BBC news is funded from the license fee paid by everyone who has a TV set and from the sale of programmes to other UK companies and to overseas companies. There are no advertisements on BBC - yes we actually get to watch a programme from start to finish with no interruptions - apart from trailers for their own upcoming programmes or public information announcements like "If you're over 65, get your (free) 'flu jab now" which happen between programmes. The news on commercial stations isn't funded from a biased source either. All programmes on these stations have four or five breaks per hour in their programmes which are each fillled with several short pre-recorded advertisements for different products, so no one company can dictate content. Some popular programmes are sponsored by a particular company eg Cadburys the chocolate manufacturers sponsors 'Coronation Street' (one of the popular soaps), but has no say on content and their sponsorship anouncement occurs at the breaks only. They don't get extra product placement opportunities in the shops or anywhere else in the soaps either. The news on commercial stations isn't sponsored. Newspapers do exaggerate and distort - the aim of the tabloids in particular is to sell through sensationalism. The Prince Charles rumour is one example. The newspapers printed a hint to increase their circulation. Their normal ploy is to publish and then wait to be sued if what they pubish is incorrect. A court injunction being taken out by one of the people involved stopped the publication of the actual story - which any UK citizen is entitled to do. The broadcast news only reported what each newspaper had published - they didn't report the story themselves. They dare not take the 'publish and wait to be sued' route. Anything broadcast is governed by the Broadcasting Standards Authority which has very strict rules. So, yes I am certain the sources are correct as it was on BBC news. I did actually buy a newspaper on Saturday for the first time in many years, but not for the biased news - there was a free Elvis Presly CD in it! Jean in Poole To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Disabled Parking Spaces
Dear List, There have been a couple of comments about people who looked quite able bodied using disabled parking spaces. I'd like to tell you a bit about my youngest sister, Tina. Tina has MS, multiple sclerosis. She has chronic, progressive MS, the bad kind with no remissions, no good days. And she has fought it tooth and nail every step of the way. The first year or two she had her disabled parking permit she was in her early 30's, young and very healthy looking, and drove a sporty little car, though it had to be outfitted with hand controls. And she fought having to use even a cane as long as she could. She could usually just make it from the disabled parking space into the grocery store, or drug store where she could then use a cart to lean on. Her legs were very weak and sometimes didn't cooperate. It was like a high wire act, trying to keep her independence, keep upright, never knowing when she'd get tremors or when a foot would drag and send her crashing into something or to the ground. By far the vast majority of people are kind and helpful, but that first few years she endured a sea of icy stares in parking lots, many rude remarks, and several times had to put up with people cursing and yelling at her. She's been confined to a wheelchair for many years now and no one could mistake her for able bodied any more, so those kind of problems are behind her. I have the same reaction as everyone else when I see someone walk away from a disabled parking space, but, unless they're doing a jig across the parking lot, I try to remember that I don't know their story. They just might be someone with as much courage, with as much spirit as Tina. Denise [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Handicap parking
Tamara wrote: We only have 'temporary' handicapped badges that each last three years - then you have to reapply.But in order to get one, you have to have a permanent disability. I don't drive slowly as I'm not in pain when I drive. I'm not a disabled driver but a disabled walker. Jean in Poole To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Disabled Parking - Amazing Revelations!
Dear Denise and List, > There have been a couple of comments about people who looked quite able > bodied using disabled parking spaces. I'd like to tell you a bit about my > youngest sister, Tina. (snip) > How I can sympathize with your sister! I've had arthritis since my mid-twenties. There were bad times at the beginning - months on end when getting me out of bed was the big achievement for the day - but it's settled down, and I've learnt a lot about how to cope since then. One of the things I've learned is that good days can be turned into bad days by overdoing it. There are times when I've looked and felt reasonably normal, and pain doesn't necessarily appear early enough to be a useful message: it may not come on until the next day, and then take ten days or a fortnight to go away again. Also, however much I may take care, there is an accumulation of residual damage over the years. So there have been times when I've looked young and active, and still qualified for my permit. And I can understand why others might look askance, when I've often forgotten myself that I've got to take care. However, what annoys me now is that the presence of my walking stick means I get frequent offers intended for the over-65s when I'm only just over 50 years old. Despite doing my best to dress well, dye my hair, (drug treatments drained a lot of the colour by my early 30s), and stand up straight and walk properly, these things will keep happening. Now, I can understand when youngsters do it - to them, everyone over twenty is 'old' - but when people of my own age or a lot older do it, I can't help but feel affronted. And the worst insult of all is when people assume that a movement disability is bound to mean a brain disability, and so they treat me as if I were a small child. But then I suppose that's an improvement on the times when I've had to use a wheelchair: then I've met a lot of people who assume it means I'm like a baby in a pram, and they direct all their conversation to the person with me. Well-known as the "does he take sugar in his tea" syndrome: I suppose it saves them having to conduct a conversation with someone who is below their eye-level. This has even happened to me at academic conferences at universities, (even at Oxford University), where I can only suppose that other attendees assumed that my sister had brought me along in mistake for her briefcase . . . Well, I'm sorry for this long rant - I can see that I must have needed to get these things off my chest, and I'm grateful for the opportunity of your attention. To get back to parking for my conclusion. It doesn't worry me at all to show my permit if I'm asked; it has my photograph inside, so I can be identified as someone who has been checked out repeatedly by the government medical authorities, and has really 'earned' her permit. It doesn't surprise me, either, when parking attendants tell me that mine is the first genuine request for special parking that they've seen all day. How odd is it that fit people are willing to take on the bad social perceptions accompanying being seen as a disabled person, just for the sake of convenient parking? It's often said that someone who becomes blind or deaf develops other senses to compensate for their loss. Whatever and whenever disability strikes, the thing you need to do most is to develop your sense of humour. Looking on the bright side, I suppose that the recent trend to providing easier parking spaces and easier access to shops for disabled people is part of a wider recognition that we might have money to spend - which seems to be the only guarantee that you are a qualified human being these days. At least we're not automatically designated as witches any more! Yours sincerely, Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where it's grey and gloomy, and is forecast to be wet and windy, a great day for sitting indoors and making lace, but I've got to go out and chair a committee meeting). To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Fiftieth Birthday
My favourite line from my fiftieth is : '50ish - give or take an ish'. On Monday, November 17, 2003, at 12:41 AM, Carole Lassak wrote: My sisters and I have a tradition of treating the one celebrating their fiftieth birthday to a "girls weekend." Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace-chat] Bush's visit
Well the BBC is generally regarded as heavily influenced by the British Foreign Office, which has a pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel bias (for example, the egregious misquoting of a White House official in which the word "terrorist" was replaced by "activist"). The BBC was recently singled out for banning from one of Sharon's press conferences for its persistent anti-Israel slant. Avital Original Message: - From: Jean Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, yes I am certain the sources are correct as it was on BBC news. I did actually buy a newspaper on Saturday for the first time in many years, but not for the biased news - there was a free Elvis Presly CD in it! Jean in Poole mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace-chat] Disabled Parking - Amazing Revelations!
I had a temporary wheelchair experience that every able bodied person should have to go through. Right at the beginning of a vacation a few years ago I tripped and severely sprained my ankle. I was in a cast and could not put any weight on my foot at all. Very quickly, I discovered just how exhausting it was to get about on crutches to say nothing of the pain caused by not elevating my foot as instructed. This happened thousands of miles from home and in the US while I live in Canada. I'd made arrangements to pick up a loom 10 days later and had no phone contact with the person so shortening the vacation was not an option. My solution to the mobility problem was to go to a medical equipment store and purchase a used wheelchair to make the best of the situation. While making it possible to get about more easily, it was also a whole lot more educational than I could ever have imagined. Just as others have stated, many people spoke only to my husband when I went shopping or to restaurants. I also learned just how many physical barriers there are to people in wheelchairs. Doorways, steps, hotel rooms, steps and, of course, those scary hills everywhere. Try going to see Alcatraz Island in a wheelchair. Since we were in San Francisco we decided to get about mainly by using cabs as parking was such a problem. Every tried to get a cab when you are in a wheelchair? Even when we phoned a cab I had to hide around the corner in my chair until it was stopped and the door was open or the drive just sped away when he saw me. It seems they weren't willing to wait the couple of minutes it took to get my chair into the trunk. This experience certainly made me understand the issues facing those confined to a wheelchair a whole lot more clearly. Darlene Mulholland www.darlenem.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.538 / Virus Database: 333 - Release Date: 10/11/2003 To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] NEC
Hi, does everyone realise that the NEC Christmas Lace show is in a different hall this year. I'm told there will be more space so it should be good. I am sure it will be well signed. Look forward to seeing some of you. Bye the way if you definitely want anything don't forget to ring or e-mail us to reserve it. Also don't forget if you don't like the crowds it is much quieter on Sunday. KEEP LACING, VIVIENNE, BIGGINS To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Bush's visit
I don't know who thinks the BBC is heavily influenced by the British Foreign Office. Coming from Jewish ancestors, I think I'd notice an anti-Israeli influence on the BBC. How is reporting that Palestinian suicide bombers have caused yet more deaths anti-Israeli? The BBC World Service is highly respected everywhere. As all our news broadcasts carry the same facts in their news bulletins, I think it unlikely that the Foreign Office can influence the BBC, Rupert Murdoch for Sky News and ITV equally. I think their reporting is fairly balanced, taking into account that it's people with views of their own who are reporting and not machines. Hopefully it's not pro- or anti- any country or group intentionally and as balanced as any country's news reporting is. Individual reporters for particuar countries do give an opinion on what they think a reported incident could mean, but it's always clear that it's an opinion. The choice of the word "activist" instead of "terrorist" could well have been the reporter's. They write their own scripts and he might have decided that it read better without having an ulterior motive. Unless you ask him, you can't know. Look at the mess with the David Kelly affair - I assume that's been reported outside this country as both the government and the BBC are involved and could come out of it equally badly. We're being told what's happening for Bush's visit as much for our own safety and information to keep people and businesses in the capital functioning as normal as possible as anything. It's all totally new to us. There will be armed US agents on the streets - something we're not used to. They have been denied the request to be able to shoot to kill - we don't do that so we're being told as reassurance. The underground will be open, but there will be rolling road blocks and an exclusion zone around him so some underground stations and streets will be closed some of the time. There'll be a no-fly zone, apart from helicopters and military aircraft, over Buckingham Palace and surrounding areas - again something we're not used to and could be worrying for people in the area. I think it's a joke, but it's been said that Ken Livingstone is insisting that the congestion charge (for travelling by car in central London) will have to be paid and will amount to 600 pounds a day for the entourage. The Queen always puts reading matter beside the bed of guests who stay at Buckingham Palace. There's been some amusing speculation on what she'll put by Bush's bed. Jean in Poole - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 11:58 AM Subject: RE: [lace-chat] Bush's visit Well the BBC is generally regarded as heavily influenced by the British Foreign Office, which has a pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel bias (for example, the egregious misquoting of a White House official in which the word "terrorist" was replaced by "activist"). The BBC was recently singled out for banning from one of Sharon's press conferences for its persistent anti-Israel slant. Avital To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Bush's visit
From: "Clay Blackwell" < .>> The odd thing is that here in the US, the man travels constantly, and while there are extra precautions taken wherever he goes, it is nothing as you have described. Are you certain that your sources are absolutely correct? >> Al Gore came to South Africa a few years ago and the security measures were about the same as described by Jean and he was only the vice-president. The freeways to the airport were closed for his exclusive use etc. It did not make the Americans very popular here as most of this happened without much warning. Jeanette Fischer, Western Cape, South Africa. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] The BBC
Many of us in the USA read the BBC news on the internet and listen to the World Service, too. In addition, we read British newspapers and journals. I am here to say that the much-vaunted BBC has been showing a distinct liberal bias since the days of John Birt. Indeed, this fact has even been noted in Parliament! Quite frequently, it is hard to tell whether we are reading the BBC News or that of The Guardian! Such lurid , and frankly distorted, headlines! The BBC is, even as I write, trying to clean out its slanted news departments. This activity has been noted in several of your journals recently. I lament the loss of the BBC's wonderful objectivity, as well as the dumbing down of some of its programs. We hope that the pendulum is ready to swing back to a more neutral political position. The world is already too polarized for its good health. We all need the old BBC. Long may it live! To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Bush's visit
>>Well the BBC is generally regarded as heavily influenced by the British Foreign Office, which has a pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel bias (for example, the egregious misquoting of a White House official in which the word "terrorist" was replaced by "activist"). The BBC was recently singled out for banning from one of Sharon's press conferences for its persistent anti-Israel slant. Avital<< I'm not sure how fair that is. The BBC is independent of the Government, to the extent that it regularly gets criticised by governments of both colours of being anti-government - one minute the BBC is being accused of left-wing bias, and the next of right-wing bias. I cannot know what goes on behind the scenes between the BBC and the Foreign Office, so there may be informal pressures on it to conform, but there's certainly no formal requirement for it to toe the Foreign Office line. When the Government tries to influence the BBC, the BBC often makes that public. For example, a government Minister recently wrote to the Director General of the BBC to try to get an investigation into her past by the BBC Today programme stopped (she had been leader of London council in the 80s, when many children in Islington care homes were being regularly sexually abused by staff). The Today programme promptly broadcast this letter and continued its investigation. As a result, the Minister may lose her job. The BBC is a British institution and will naturally reflect the prevailing world view of mainstream Britain. That will inevitably include a less favourable opinion of Israel than the USA has. The USA is perceived by many outside North America of being heavily pro-Israel, so any view less pro-Israel may be perceived as pro-Palestinian by America. If the BBC is peddling a Foreign Office-inspired pro-Palestianian bias, then it's passed me by. For 30 years the BBC has been one of my main sources of news. Yet until recently, I thought the Israelis were the good guys, surrounded by hostile Arab states, while the Palestinians were the bad guys, who kept trying to blow up Jews. A year or two ago I took the trouble to read a little of the history of Israel and Palestine, and as a result, I now have a rather different view of matters. I'm neither pro-Israeli nor pro-Palestinian. But I can now understand what the grievances of the Palestinians are, and am critical of many of the actions of the present Israeli government. I don't know the details of the BBC's banning from Sharon's press conferences. But it might have been for similar reasons to those that got the BBC banned by Robert Mugabe from reporting in Zimbabwe - he didn't like the fact that the BBC was trying to tell the truth about what Mugabe was doing to his citizens and his country. I can't say that the BBC is accurate in all its reporting, and any news organisation inevitably has biases. But I'd trust it more than most other news organisations in the world to get it roughly right most of the time. Incidentally, this whole mess in the Middle East might have been avoided. If I remember correctly, the Zionists of the 19th century had two possible places in mind for a Jewish homeland - Palestine and some land in Argentina. If only they'd chosen Argentina... Regards, Annette Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Fiftieth birthday
> My sisters and I have a tradition of treating the one celebrating their > fiftieth birthday to a "girls weekend." This coming weekend we're doing > another celebration. I need some cute and funny ideas for posters, banners, > signs, etc. to decorate our hotel room. I'm doing an iron-on transfer for a > T-shirt saying "I'm not OLD, I'm just youthfully challenged." Also, doing a > bottle of lotion labeled "Oil of Old Age." Anyone have any other ideas? > > Carole > Dublin, OH USA I recently bought my mother a sticker for her car that reads, "I'm not an OAP [Old Aged Pensioner], I'm a recycled teenager!" Maybe you could adapt that Regards, Annette, London To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] BBC and Israel links
http://www.cnsnews.com/ForeignBureaus/Archive/200307/FOR20030715f.html http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/reports/BBC_In-depth.asp http://www.aish.com/jewishissues/mediaobjectivity/European_Media_and_Anti-Is rael_Bias.asp http://www.afsi.org/MEDIA/bbc/critiques/index.html http://israpundit.com/archives/002913.html http://foundationstone.com.au/HtmlSupport/WebPage/MediaBias/mediaBias.html http://world.std.com/~camera/docs/alert/bbcterr.html http://world.std.com/~camera/docs/alert/britwtc.html http://world.std.com/~camera/docs/alert/bbchamas.html http://world.std.com/~camera/docs/alert/cnnrtbbc.html http://world.std.com/~camera/docs/alert/bbccheer.html http://world.std.com/~camera/docs/alert/bbc-karmi.html http://world.std.com/~camera/docs/oncamera/ocbbc.html http://www.israelinsider.com/channels/politics/articles/pol_0029.htm http://www.aijac.org.au/resources/aijac-media/tf-ajn-040903.html http://www.israelaustin.com/israelnow/news/3november2002e.asp http://www.tachlis.org/articles/092003/3092003149_1.html http://www.israelinsider.com/channels/diplomacy/articles/dip_0025.htm http://www.factsofisrael.com/load.php?p=http://www.factsofisrael.com/blog/ar chives/000221.html http://www.c4israel.org/articles/english/e-i-02-3-callmedia.htm I could have posted more but my mouse hand was getting sore. Avital To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] 7 reasons to not mess with a child enjoy
7 reasons to not mess with a child: **A little girl was talking to her teacher about whales. The teacher said it was physically impossible for a whale to swallow a human because even though it was a very large mammal its throat was very small. The little girl stated that Jonah was swallowed by a whale. Irritated, the teacher reiterated that a whale could not swallow a human; it was physically impossible. The little girl said, "When I get to heaven I will ask Jonah". The teacher asked, "What if Jonah went to hell?" The little girl replied, "Then you ask him". *A Kindergarten teacher was observing her classroom of children while they were drawing. She would occasionally walk around to see each child's work. As she got to one little girl who was working diligently, she asked what the drawing was. The girl replied, "I'm drawing God." The teacher paused and said, "But no one knows what God looks like." Without missing a beat, or looking up from her drawing, the girl replied, "They will in a minute." A Sunday school teacher was discussing the Ten Commandments with her Five and six year olds. After explaining the commandment to "honor" thy Father and thy Mother, she asked, "Is there a commandment that teaches us how to treat our brothers and sisters?" Without missing a beat one little boy (the oldest of a family) answered, "Thou shall not kill." *** One day a little girl was sitting and watching her mother do the dishes at the kitchen sink. She suddenly noticed that her mother has several strands of white hair sticking out in contrast on her brunette head. She looked at her mother and inquisitively asked, "Why are some of your hairs white, Mom?" Her mother replied, "Well, every time that you do something wrong and make me cry or unhappy, one of my hairs turns white." The little girl thought about this revelation for a while and then said, "Momma, how come ALL of grandma's hairs are white?" * The children had all been photographed, and the teacher was trying to persuade them each to buy a copy of the group picture. "Just think how nice it will be to look at it when you are all grown up and say, 'There's Jennifer, she's a lawyer,' or 'That's Michael, He's a doctor.' A small voice at the back of the room rang out, "And there's the teacher, She's dead." A teacher was giving a lesson on the circulation of the blood. Trying to make the matter clearer, she said, "Now, class, if I stood on my head, the blood, as you know, would run into it, and I would turn red in the face." "Yes," the class said. "Then why is it that while I am standing upright in the ordinary position the blood doesn't run into my feet?" A little fellow shouted, "Cause your feet ain't empty." > The children were lined up in the cafeteria of a Catholic elementary school for lunch. At the head of the table was a large pile of apples. The nun made a note, and posted on the apple tray: "Take only ONE. God is watching." "Moving further along the lunch line, at the other end of the table was a large pile of chocolate chip cookies. A child had written a note, "Take all you want. God is watching the apples". ** It doesn't matter how many people you send this to, just remember, if it made you laugh, your friends will laugh too. --- [This E-mail Scanned for viruses by Onlinemac.com] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] SP thank you she said with a french accent (haven't got a french accent actually but then i wouldn't be funny at all )
hi a secret pal from Australia ! .. swell i nearly lost the pewter frog that was cheeky enough to jump out of the bag with paper and all ... i love it !!! i guess i had that particularly idiotic grin one has when really absolutely delighted ... .. I put it near my turtle made from a Mexican seed (offered by another SP and much treasured ) .the bandana is beautiful and the fact it is to help teens with cancer makes it even more precious , the cards are oh so pretty and the exlibris etiquettes are just what i needed for my lace books .. i'll keep a few of them to show my lace friends of course dominique who's impatiently waiting for next month ... argh!! forgot the Santa ...much appreciated too . you didn't know i had a Santa collection too did you ??? you must be a psychic somehow.. i started buying Santa candles and stopped when they all started to look the same in all the shops. i just love those that look chinese .. lol .. something in the eyes ... i checked and they were indeed made in China .. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Bush's visit
When President Bush has visited here, it has not been a big problem. I have actually been unexpectedly held up in traffic so that his cars could get to their destination without much delay. It only took about 10 minutes of my time. Of course it was not the extended stay that you will have. I hope that you regard him with respect when he is in your country as I'm sure that there are those of us, even on this board, who are thankful to have him for our President. Of course there will be things that you can complain about regarding his visit, but I hope it will be short lived. In the past I have grown very fond of London and England. As a people you have endured hardships that many of us cannot even imagine. I for one appreciate all the trouble your country is going to in order to welcome our President in the typical British manner that you undoubtedly will. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Disabled Parking - Amazing Revelations!
> There have been a couple of comments about people who looked quite able bodied using disabled parking spaces. I'd like to tell you a bit about my youngest sister, Tina. (snip) How I can sympathize with your sister! I've had arthritis since my mid-twenties. I've had arthritis since I was 32. I am 50 now and have used a wheelchair for the last two years. It is amazing how differently I am treated when I am in the wheelchair. Most people mean well and try to help with doors (I don't need the help, but the next person might). Cashiers ignore me and hand and the change to my 9 yr old daughter. When I dropped some papers off at a public agency, the receptionist started giving the directions to my daughter. And no, I don't usually take the handicapped spot. I'm handicapped without the chairwith it, I am ENABLED. Sharon To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] To my secret pal
Hello! Received your letter today with the lovely lace photos. Thank you so much! I've been looking for some nice pictures to put into my lace frames. Now I have a few really nice ones. I'll post the pictures on my website when I get them finished. I really love the modern lace picture called "Wassefall", though it is truly hard to decide as all of the pictures are really nice. Sincerely - Rita Lloyd To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Handicapped parking
On Monday, Nov 17, 2003, at 01:38 US/Eastern, alice howell wrote: A different view -- Many disabled don't have visible disability. My mother looked like a perfectly healthy person. The problem was her heart. She had limitations on stressing the heart and that included a walking limit. And, Denise (lacegarden) wrote: Tina has MS, multiple sclerosis. She has chronic, progressive MS, the bad kind with no remissions, no good days. And she has fought it tooth and nail every step of the way. The first year or two she had her disabled parking permit she was in her early 30's, young and very healthy looking, and drove a sporty little car, though it had to be outfitted with hand controls. And she fought having to use even a cane as long as she could. I'll start with a joke; that's what I do best, and it applies to the "thread"... A young woman gets on a Warsaw bus, and moves to the seat reserved for pregnant women and mothers with babes in arms. A man is sitting there, gives her an appraising look, and doesn't get up. So, she says: "excuse me, but would you please give me your seat; I'm pregnant". He jumps up, she sits down. He says: "sorry about that, but you don't show at all; I couldn't tell... How far "gone" are you?" She looks up at him, gives him a dreamy smile, and says: "About half an hour" That girl could have been me, 35 yrs ago... :) Or almost; while I might not have claimed that seat within half an hour, I'd certainly would have claimed it by 3rd month, long before I was showing (5th). I had problems throughout my pregnancy and, standing for half an hour in a packed bus wasn't an option; I'd have claimed that seat whether I *looked* like I needed it or not. But I have no pride (false or otherwise)... :) I'd have made it *obvious*, to all and sundry, that I needed the seat, by holding my belly protectively with both hands (a typical gesture of most mothers-to-be), while trying to lean, securely, against something (and not succeeding; Warsaw bus drivers all think they're American cowboys ). If it had been my heart or my legs which would grant me the "priviledge", I'd have *stressed* that disability, instead of hiding it. *If* I needed to. OTOH, if I decided that acting like everyone else was more important to me than getting the "breaks", then I would take the "lumps" with it (malignant looks, verbal abuse), and do my best to ignore them. I never park in handicapped designated spots. Not because of the possible fines (nobody seems to mind much -- you never see cops taking license numbers at grocery parking lots, only at time-limited spots along the streets), and not because someone might think I'm more disabled than I am. I simply think it's despicable for someone who doesn't *need* it, to claim a parking spot of someone who *might*, and all for the sake of 20 feet or so. But I also thought it was stupid when my DH -- within weeks of scheduled hip-replacement surgery and *hobbling*, in pain constantly, refused to apply for a temporary handicapped permit -- strictly because of "pride". Because of "pride", my father (*after* a hip-replacement surgery ) refused to use one of those adjustable, metal canes; they were, visibly, "medical". So, instead, he used one which looked "aristocratic" and was the wrong length for him besides being unstable. To each his/her own vanity... :) And I get *livid* when I see a disabled person (with a legitimate "tag", so there's nothing I can do about it) being driven to a store, the car being parked in the Handicapped area, the handicapped person sitting in the car, and the able one running the errands; there aren't all that many reserved handicapped spots to begin with, and one can sit in a car 200 yrds away as well as 150, in equal comfort. Though, to be sure, I did accept the 5% Senior Citizen discount from one of the grocery stores as long as they didn't ask my age, and *assumed* I was over 55... Now that the cat is out of the bag (they asked, and I "made like George" ), I drag my DH (no longer hobbling ) to the shops every Tuesday... I'll *take* whatever's *offered* - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Handicap parking/driving
On Monday, Nov 17, 2003, at 03:58 US/Eastern, Jean Nathan wrote: We only have 'temporary' handicapped badges that each last three years - then you have to reapply.But in order to get one, you have to have a permanent disability. Nice to know that *something*, in the area of "social care" is better in the US than in the UK :) Here, if you have a permanent disability, you get a permanent tag; the "guy in the wheelchair" symbol is pressed into your license plates (preceding the numbers). You need to renew the plates yearly (everyone does), but that's it (as it should be). The temporary (and up for periodical review) tags are cardboard, bear the same symbol, and are hung off the front mirror. They're *supposed* to be used only when the disabled is on board *and* needing to get to the store, but they're not (I've seen young, brisk mothers of 3 shepherding the brood to a store having first placed her "excuse" on the mirror). The older folk tend to drive right to the door of the store, drop the disabled person *there*, and park wherever there's a spot, *other* than the Handicapped one. The procedure is reversed at the other end. It's the younger set who take advantage of the few yards (I bet they're the ones who jog for their health daily, too ) I don't drive slowly as I'm not in pain when I drive. I'm not a disabled driver but a disabled walker. Yeah, sorry, but, in my (limited, granted) experience, the folk with the permanent tags tend to drive at 10-15MPH irrespective of the posted speed limit (25 to 55 MPH in the immediate area; you don't see many of them on the highways, praise be). And they never turn their blinkers off, either... *If*, that is, they remember to turn them on in the first place... I'm a reasonable person most of the time but, when on the road, I turn into a *witch*, and all the infractions are *counted* - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] :) Fwd: Rednecks - not so dumb
Vindicated at last, by golly :) From: R.P. "Hello, is this the FBI?" "Yes. What do you want?" "I'm calling to report about my neighbor Billy Bob Smith. He's hiding marijuana in his firewood!" "Thank you very much for the call, sir." The next day, the FBI agents descend on Billy Bob's house. They search the shed where the firewood is kept. Using axes, they bust open every piece of wood, but find no marijuana. They sneer at Billy Bob and leave. The phone rings at Billy Bob's house. "Hey, Billy Bob! Did the FBI come?" "Yeah!" "Did they chop your firewood?" "Yep." "Happy Birthday, buddy." - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Bush's visit to UK and beyond
On Monday, Nov 17, 2003, at 13:19 US/Eastern, Annette Gill wrote:
one minute the BBC is being accused of left-wing bias, and the next of
right-wing bias.
That's true of our "global" media too, including the newspapers (I'm
more familiar with those, as I don't watch TV/listen to the radio
much); NY Times, Washington Post and other big papers get labelled as
"right-wing" or "left-wing", depending strictly on the *reader's own*
bias... Only the people who read/listen/view stuff that's already
biased in their direction (and nothing else) have no complaints :)
The BBC is a British institution and will naturally reflect the
prevailing
world view of mainstream Britain. That will inevitably include a less
favourable opinion of Israel than the USA has. The USA is perceived by
many outside North America of being heavily pro-Israel, so any view
less
pro-Israel may be perceived as pro-Palestinian by America.
Many Americans are anti-foreigner (irrespective of race, origin, etc).
So are many other countries, including UK. When it's OK to voice one's
prejudices, you hear hear them all the time, but they're "watered
down", because there are so many *conflicting* ones. With the "PC rule"
in place, only the *acceptable* "bigot-ism" (I know it's not a word,
but can't think of a better one) is "aired" without reprimand...
Because being "anti" (again, anti *anything*) is restricted, it
acquires a much sharper and more vicious focus when a "valve" *does*
open. I'm much more "anti" now than I was a year ago, or would have
been, had I been able to "vent", openly, on *every* subject I consider
ridiculous ( Jews, Arabs, Chinese, blacks, French, Poles, Brits,
Ozzies, Americans, South Africans, etc, *in addition to* the
everlasting, but *bland* "blondes").
If the BBC is peddling a Foreign Office-inspired pro-Palestianian bias,
then it's passed me by.
Both NYTimes and the Wash.Post *report the facts*... Because of our
*personal* bias, my DH takes *the same reports* as being anti-Palestine
(and sides with Palestine, as a result), and I take them to be
anti-Israel (and interpret accordingly; we're *both* "root for the
underdog" people ). At least, I'm *aware* of *my* bias... :)
If I remember correctly, the Zionists of the 19th century had two
possible
places in mind for a Jewish homeland - Palestine and some land in
Argentina. If only they'd chosen Argentina...
OK; until now, I agreed some, disagreed some, but I could "live with
it", even where I disagreed with your arguments... All very
civilised... :)
But, *Argentina* for Jews to settle in?!?!?!? Have you lost your
cotton-picking mind (as we *used* to say, pre-PC, Down-South- Heah)???
There was some land available in South America at that point, and
buying it and resettling there might have looked like the lesser evil
to European Jews, who were being "pogrommed" into extinction (as a
matter of fact, *Madagascar* was another land option, right up to WWII
-- I can still sing the song that ridiculed the idea ("chessboard"
children were mentioned ), but it would have *never* been a
"homeland"; just another, possibly more torelable, place of exile...
Jews had been in what's now Israel for as long as Arabs (longer, if you
believe your Bible and the story of Hagar in the desert )... "Next
year in Jerusalem" -- the hope of all those dispersed -- is part of
their *religious ritual*... And you think that *Buenos Aires* would
have done *as well*??? How about moving all of Britain to Argentina and
all the Jews to Britain (a nice, isolated island), for *absurd*?
I do not approve of Israel's post 1948 expansionism, but that's a
different story altogether. IMO, the original borders, while "pinching"
on both sides were, at least, fair and sensible. OTOH, the idea having
Jews "somewhe else", just because it's inconvenient/a nuisance to have
them where they belong... I'll bite my tongue (belatedly ), but it
really is less than what I expected of you...
Yours, reluctantly half-Jewish, and drawing the border lines,
-
Tamara P Duvall
Lexington, Virginia, USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/
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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Handicap parking/driving
Hmmm...Tamara maybe they are cardboard in your state but in Minnesota they are plastic and "prefered" to the plates these days. I have permanently disabled people in the family (besides myself) and we all have what are called "permanent disability cards" which hang from the mirror. They are not cardboard but a heavy plastic and good for 5 years. The Temporary disability card is red not blue and is only good for 6 month periods. They prefer the cards here since people often have multiple cars or are being chauffeured by someone who doesn't have disabled plates. Many of my family members have sight disabilities and won't ever be able to get "permanent plates" for cars they can't drive. My 100 year old grandfather (who moves in the speed of "ultra slow" only LOL) has 3 different cards. My aunt has one (and then one of her own LOL...personally I think that is silly) By the way, she can't drive and neither can my father (he is married to her) so that is doubly silly. 2 for my mother (she has 2 cars) since SHE usually drives him. They gave her two when she complained that she couldn't remember to switch the card from car to car. (actually if you knew my mother you would understand) She is also losing her sight. (she is basically blind in one eye already) So eventually she may just get her own (and I will have to drive her around) I have my own but it stays in my car unless my son is taking me somewhere then he lets me bring it and hang it on his mirror. He HATES using the handicapped spot but he is becoming much more protective of me now that he is grown and married. I would go nuts if I had to get a card every 3 years. It is really a pain in the rear to have to go to the DMV downtown St Paul (who doesn't even have handicapped parking by the way) to get your handicapped card. Cearbhael - Original Message - From: Tamara P. Duvall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Original Message - From: Tamara P. Duvall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: chat Arachne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:10 PM Subject: [lace-chat] Re: Handicap parking/driving > On Monday, Nov 17, 2003, at 03:58 US/Eastern, Jean Nathan wrote: > > > We only have 'temporary' handicapped badges that each last three years > > - > > then you have to reapply.But in order to get one, you have to have a > > permanent disability. > > Nice to know that *something*, in the area of "social care" is better > in the US than in the UK :) Here, if you have a permanent disability, > you get a permanent tag; the "guy in the wheelchair" symbol is pressed > into your license plates (preceding the numbers). You need to renew the > plates yearly (everyone does), but that's it (as it should be). The > temporary (and up for periodical review) tags are cardboard, bear the > same symbol, and are hung off the front mirror. They're *supposed* to > be used only when the disabled is on board *and* needing to get to the > store, but they're not (I've seen young, brisk mothers of 3 shepherding > the brood to a store having first placed her "excuse" on the mirror). > > The older folk tend to drive right to the door of the store, drop the > disabled person *there*, and park wherever there's a spot, *other* than > the Handicapped one. The procedure is reversed at the other end. It's > the younger set who take advantage of the few yards (I bet they're the > ones who jog for their health daily, too ) > > > I don't drive slowly as I'm not in pain when I drive. I'm not a > > disabled > > driver but a disabled walker. > > Yeah, sorry, but, in my (limited, granted) experience, the folk with > the permanent tags tend to drive at 10-15MPH irrespective of the posted > speed limit (25 to 55 MPH in the immediate area; you don't see many of > them on the highways, praise be). And they never turn their blinkers > off, either... *If*, that is, they remember to turn them on in the > first place... I'm a reasonable person most of the time but, when on > the road, I turn into a *witch*, and all the infractions are *counted* > > > - > Tamara P Duvall > Lexington, Virginia, USA > Formerly of Warsaw, Poland > http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ > > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Bush's visit
<> Jean, I laughed louder at that than I did at Room 101 this evening - which was pretty funny. Brilliant!!! I hadn't heard this, but I hope it's true. At least London will recoup some of the costs of policing this visit. Regards, Annette To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: [lace] Kortelahti Pattern- how can I get it to lay flat?
Good morning, I am not sure which this pattern is, but some of Eeva Liisa's patterns can be quite big when you make the pricking into a complete circle. Will it fit your pillow? Without coming to within a couple of inches of the edge that is? It might make more comfortable working to just make a couple of copies of the pricking and settle for moving your bobbins up the pricking a couple of times. It takes a bit of time and care but set against a possible difficult and cramped working angle it could be the lesser if two evils. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On Sunday, November 16, 2003, at 10:16 AM, watson wrote: I have a Kortelahti pattern that I would like to do that is giving me fits. It is 36 Kellot from- "Uudet Nyplaysmallet " I love the hearts and flowers. There is only 1/8 of the circle given for the pricking pattern, so I (years ago.) reduced it and made 8 copies to put together to complete the circle. I know that copying distorts a little-how do you get around this? Do computer scanners distort less? There is no way that this pattern will make a flat circle and I don't see how I can "juggle" it to do so. There is nearly a centimeter of overlap. Do I just make it and have a ruffled piece? Thanks, Dianna Watson - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Angela back on line
Dear Spiders, I have been without the ability to send or receive email for the last two weeks, almost as bad as when I lost my voice and could not speak. The trouble started when my adult son and my daughter came for school half term, that is both on their own, my daughter without her children, Hannah at 17 is now off for interviews for University places. My son as usual messed about with the computers, and when the email one did not work after he left, blamed him. However, it was not his fault, a bad patch on the hard drive prevented it from booting up. My son came again this last week and sorted it all, but also has played around with everything else, so keeping my fingers crossed. So if I owe anyone emails please understand. I will catch up as soon as possible and about thirty digests to read now. Angela Thompson. Worcestershire UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
