Re: [lace-chat] Re: Katrina devastaion
every 2 or 3 months it will cost the government about 800 million dollars to rebuild ( http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=107917 ) and no telling how many lives there will be that are lost, but ok, go ahead and rebuild the city the way it is. maybe they should give it to the fisheries. they don't need anyone but their boat crew to do things and maybe they will leave in enough time to get out of the next hurricanes way. --- Tamara P Duvall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sep 23, 2005, at 22:50, susan wrote: > > > the areas in new orleans should be left as tourist areas only, > > And who's gonna flip their burgers for them? Scrub the bathrooms, do > the laundry, change the bulbs and see to the plumbing in their > hotels? > Remove the trash? Maintain the souvenir shops, lead the sight-seeing > tours? Amuse them in the evenings? Who's gonna take care of them > when > they get sick? Who's gonna baby-sit and teach the kids of the "worker > > ants"? > > And where are all those "worker ants" going to live? 50 miles out of > town and commute (always supposing there are safe areas within that > distance where housing for them *can* be built)? > > A city is a multi-layered "organism"; reducing New Orleans to a > tourist > attraction is just another way to put it into a coffin. Immediately > post-Katrina, it was WalMart that was the most effective at providing > > help. But tourists don't shop at WalMart; it's the poor who do. > > Besides... Although Katrina attacked at 5, she "went to rest" at 4, > and > her path spared the tourist quarter. What's the guarantee that it'll > be > like that the next time? new orleans isn't worth the tax money to rebuild, especially if it is going to be torn down every few months. tourist areas are only open during safe times out of the year and they supply housing to their workers. they are vacant during the end of their seasons or when the weather is too bad for anyone to work or live their. > > their government representatives are mostly responsible for how > slow > > things are moving. the higher up officials shouldn't have to make > such > > small decisions. they just handle all the money to be disbursed. > the > > police departments, mayors, city council members, governors, and > > senators are mostly to blame. it shows there are a lot of bad > politics > > in the state of louisiana by how slow they were. > Did you see the "evacuation" of Houston, Texas (the President's own > state)? Ths time, taught by Katrina, they didn't wait to be > flattened, > heeded all the warnings. The city did use the school buses, unlike in > > NO, and it did try to take care of the sick and elderly... And it > took > 12 hrs to move to the city limits, with cars running out of gas in > the > stop-and-go procession. The city did have plans for evacuation and > people did what they were told. Only, the plans allowed for 800 thou > and 2.5 million wanted to move. If Rita flattens out Houston, would > you > suggest it be rebuilt elswhere? they should make all the cities near the shores move. i'm not saying that will ever happen, but 2.5 million leave their homes at a time to avoid being slaughtered 3 times a year should give them a hint. not to mention that a great number of those "some" will have to rebuild their homes and find new jobs because the hurricanes flattened them. > > > they have books and training, but no one to test them. > > They did start testing in NO. But the money for the purpose ran out; > it > was needed in Iraq and for the tax breaks for the rich. And it wasn't > > the city council that was responsible for *that* little mess-up. > if the money for the purpose ran out it wasn't because of the war. that is no excuse to stop those kinds of tests. NO just didn't put their money where it should have been. there are a lot of poor communities who showed up voluntarilly. the fire department here is mostly all volunteers. this kind of emergency training doesn't take a lot of equipment. it has lectures on the proper precedures for evacuations and gives the addresses of safe houses to send the people to or arranges transportation to send them where they will be safe. it also has lectures on riot gear procedures and where to block off what in each city. it includes giving hospitals information on how to care for sick people on an emergency basis, and almost all of this training is done by volunteer. there was no reason NO should have not been trained. they are more than likley salary employees who don't get paid hourly and are required to be there through out all of the ordeals (including training) not like what was done when they deserted their posts. these people made no attempt to do any thinking for themselves and killed a lot of innocent people. they were trained well enough to know not to do what they did. from susan in tennessee,u.s.a. __ Do You
[lace-chat] Jackson
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[lace-chat] Re: Katrina devastaion
I wonder also whether people will want to return to live somewhere where they have experienced such devastation - It may not be an issue of wanting. It may be more of returning to an environment we know and to where our support system, lives, family, friends, schools, culture are. For the companies that weren't affected too bad, that's where our jobs are. Admittedly, things will be different. Also with regard to New Orleans, I feel plans for improving what went wrong are already being planned. Had I not married someone who chose to leave Louisiana, I would probably still be there. For now, if something disastrous were to happen where I currently live, I would probably return because that's where my life is now. That's where my friends and support system are as well as my children's lives, friends, school, etc.. That's where I want to be. The environment fits my family's medical needs better. I think I would be one who would get to the highest ground, and furthest from the Gulf states, just in case ... When looking at the devastation in New Orleans, also consider the devastation that can be caused by other natural causes such as tornadoes, earthquakes, wildfires caused by lightening, volcano eruptions, chinook winds in the mountains, hail, landslides, etc.. It doesn't matter where you live there is going to be some kind of natural event that is going to cause destruction. When I lived in Shreveport, LA, as a child, we had several bad tornadoes hit the area. Just a few years ago Fort Worth, TX/Arlington, TX, area got hit very hard with tornadoes. It came very close to the part of town I lived when I lived in Grand Prairie, TX. Now that I've been in Colorado for 13 years, I've seen many storms that included tornadoes as well as chinook winds, hail, etc. Look at the events around Mt. St. Helens in Washington and the devastation caused by it when erupted in 1980. The list can go on and on with examples of devastation from natural causes regardless of the elevation. It doesn't matter what elevation we live, there can be/is some kind of natural disaster. Vickie McKinney Colorado Springs, CO USA To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] ebay bargain
Sorry - a case of premature sending. I hit the wrong button. My message should read: From: "Jean Nathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Chat" Subject: ebay bargain Date: 24 September 2005 08:12 Linda wrote: They might have them for sale at those prices, but they haven't sold them, have they? We're going to sell my father-in-law's bungalow and had an estate agent call to give a valuation. He said what prices were being asked for two similar properties, but we pointed out that they might be asking the prices ther are, but they'd been on the market for 6 months without selling. You can ask what you like, but someone's got to be prepared to pay what you're asking. If non-one is, then your not selling it, just trying to find a mug who's got more money than sense. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] ebay bargain
Linda wrote: amazon.com) and they have one copy for $202! Amazon has one copy for $416!!! I'm amazed!> They might have them for sale at those prices, but they haven't sold them, have they? We're going to sell my father-in-law's bungalow and had an estate agent call to give a valuation. He said what prices were being asked for two similar properties, but we pointed out that they might be asking the prices ther are, but they'd been on the market for 6 months without selling. You can ask what you like, but someone To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]