Re: [lace-chat] Women's married names
Following my Father's death in 1983, my mother absolutely refused to be known as anything other than Mrs. A. Keith COLLYER - that is in written correspondence, including the phone book - During my years with the local utility service, we gave widows their choice of how they wanted the name on the account. I think it was about even in the numbers that kept the husband's name and the ones that changed the first name. Alice in Oregon To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] addressing other people
I should add, perhaps, that I do realise that not everyone has the same opinion as me (what a boring world it would be) so I address people as they introduce themselves to me, so if Mary Jane Smith introduced herself as Mary I'd call her Mary, if it was Mary Jane I'd call her Mary Jane, if it was as Mrs Smith, then I'd call her Mrs Smith, etc. And like Malvary woe betide anyone who tries to shorten my name - the only people who get away with that are my siblings, and I long ago gave up with them. Rosemary To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Women's married names
Alice Howell wrote During my years with the local utility service, we gave widows their choice of how they wanted the name on the account. I think it was about even in the numbers that kept the husband's name and the ones that changed the first name. That practice is ok if you knew them as a couple, but if you meet the widow later in life and only know her by her given name, then it is almost impossible to find her in the phone book. A neighbour of my dad, who's husband died several years ago, still has her husband's voice on the answering machine. All her/their friends think it is spooky to hear Mac's voice after all this time, and many won't leave a message. Malvary in Ottawa, Canada To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] RE: lace-chat-digest V2006 #68
Thurlow, an old-fashioned person from Lancaster, OH, wrote: Recently though, I'm finding younger people (in their 20s, I'm 40) are addressing me as Sir. And here I was, thinking that Thurlow (a name unfamiliar to me) was female! I'd maybe have guessed correctly if you'd been Mr Thurlow Weed, or even Thurlow Weed Esq (now there's an invitation to start another name-based topic G - Esquire? Huh?). Margery. [EMAIL PROTECTED] in North Herts, UK To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Names Titles
Hello all, Like Mr. Weed, (or perhaps I should call him 'young Thurlow' as I am 3 years older) I too, deplore the use of first names of adults by children. However, it is sometimes difficult to insist that my children call others by their titles. We had some friends who insisted that they be called by their first names. As I informed my children, it is alright to call them Dale and Leslie, since what you call them is a matter of respect and it would be disrespectful to call them Mr. and Mrs. when they don't like it. I am in Canada and have been fighting a losing battle with the name 'thing,' so it isn't just limited to the States. My children's friends call me Mrs. Sterling (my daughter's name) - even my son's friends! Which is fine by me, as long as they don't use only my first name. I also believe that everyone is equal, but that respect is something that should be shown and using titles is one way. The only thing I don't like is when someone clings to their title when everyone else is on a first name basis. I have a 'doctor' acquaintance who does that. Heather (Mrs. Muth) Abbotsford, BC After an afternoon spent at White Rock At 05:07 PM 25/08/2006 -0400, Mr. T. Weed wrote: But now I'm curious: the tendency in the US of children addressing elders by their first name; while I abhor it, I am curious to know if this is the case in other countries as well. Is this a US phenomenon, or does it exist elsewhere? Thurlow an old-fashioned person Lancaster, OH To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace-chat] Names Titles
I find it quite interesting how strong our feelings are about names and titles (there is an almost identical discussion going on at the moment in another group I am involved with). I am in that camp which abhors titles and has no problems with children addressing adults by their first names. I have never liked titles and can see no good reason for labelling my gender and marital status to strangers - I particularly hate the way most computer forms do not permit a blank title. When we named our son, we gave him 3 forenames, all of which could be shortened or changed in some way so as to ensure he could choose a name appropriate for himself. We also decided that apart from blood relatives we would not introduce the idea of calling anybody auntie or uncle, but he would address people by the same name we would use ourselves to that person - generally a first name. This was reinforced for us when we lived for a time in Germany and found that it was common practice for very young children to address adults by their first names (something we had not anticipated having understood Germany was far more formal than the UK). I honestly can't remember when I last addressed anybody with a title. If referring to somebody to a third party, depending on circumstances I might use their family name with their forename, but never with a title. I think what interests me most about this whole subject is that attitudes seem to have little to do with age (I'm 56), minimal to do with upbringing, something to do with cultural roots and a lot to do with personal preferences and attitudes. Cheers Liz (aka Liz Thackray) in Sussex, UK To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Name not known
- Original Message - From: Jean Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] The small children at the local riding stables had difficulty remembering people's names, although they could remember the names of the horses and ponies without any trouble at all We live in a small village with mainly retired people so remembering names is a problem particularly where people have the same first name, so they are associated with the work they do - so we have Tom Pills, the pharmacist, Tom Spanner the motor mechanic and Tom Chops the Butcher and Tom Policeman!! Our neighbour is very involved in politics and he is known as Pete Politics. Jeanette Fischer, Western Cape, South Africa. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Names Titles
My father had 3 Christian names, and they were such a pain to write out in full on any Official form, that he insisted I only have one - to spare me that problem! One title' I hate is Ms. - However I do use it when I don't know if the person is a Miss or Mrs! But everyone knows I am a Mrs, so why don't they use it. I also have mail coming addressed just to Eliz Ligeti, without a title at all. -- another of life's little irritants!! Good Manners seem to have gone out the window these days. I, too, don';t like young children calling me by my first name. It shows a lack of respect for elders. I still call the Dr Dr. not by his first name - though I think he indicated we could. It is a showing of respect for the position. There again - I am old fashioned like Thurlow,! (I hope first names are OK on Arachne!! I count everyone on the list as a good friend.!!!:)) ) Addressing folks by their first name in Not just in the US - It is here in Oz, too! Regards from Liz in Melbourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: addressing other people
On Aug 26, 2006, at 7:40, Rosemary Naish wrote: I address people as they introduce themselves to me, so if Mary Jane Smith introduced herself as Mary I'd call her Mary, if it was Mary Jane I'd call her Mary Jane, if it was as Mrs Smith, then I'd call her Mrs Smith, etc. I'd never introduce myself as Mrs Duvall -- *that* would have been considered ridiculously pretentious back in Poland. But I introduce myself as Tamara Duvall to about 95% of people (the other 5% being those I know I'm going to be on first names basis because of the situation -- friends of husband, etc) And like Malvary woe betide anyone who tries to shorten my name - the only people who get away with that are my siblings, and I long ago gave up with them. grin I'm death on people who try to call me Tammy -- can't stand it. But, at the same time, throughout my life, most people had a problem with Tamara; it's not a traditional Polish name, nor is it common in English. So I compromised and, for closer friends, adopted the monicker my oldest stepson devised for me: T (pronounced: tee). It works also on another level -- I drink a lot of (hot) tea :) Liz (Thackray) wrote: I have never liked titles and can see no good reason for labelling my gender and marital status to strangers - I particularly hate the way most computer forms do not permit a blank title. Unless your given name is a family surname (common in the US; my sister-in-law is Ridgely, as is my oldest stepson. And my husband has 3 given names -- all surnames from the past), your gender is no mystery anyway. Most of the time; in Polish, Marian is a male name; in English, it's not :) As for marital status unveiled by a honorific... Mr doesn't. And, in Polish, Mrs doesn't, either. Every woman over 18 is called Pani, irrespective of her marital status. Polish used to have panna (miss) but it was on it's way out even before WWII and disappeared entirely after the war. That's why I never objected as much as others did to the English Ms, when it first began to appear; contrived it may be, but it covers all situations for females. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Names Titles
Since I've been divorced since 1977, I don't consider myself a Mrs, nor am I a Miss. Unless I'm forced to use a 'title' I don't use one - I'm just 'Helen Ward'. If I'm forced to use one I use Ms. I don't see why in this day and age, that when men don't need to use a title, that women have to. And no, I'm not into women's lib. Helen, who got slightly sunburned watching DGS play footy yesterday. Wish it had rained though! To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] :) Fwd: Persimmons
From: J.O. There was a church down in Texas that had a very big-busted organist. Her breasts were so huge that they bounced and jiggled while she played the organ. Unfortunately, she distracted the congregation considerably. The very proper church ladies were appalled. They said something had to be done about this or they would have to get another organist. One of the ladies approached her very discreetly and told her to mash up some green persimmons, and rub them on her breasts and maybe they would shrink in size, but warned her to not eat any of the green persimmons because they are so sour, they will make your mouth pucker up and you won't be able to talk properly for a while. The organist agreed to try it. The following Sunday morning the minister got up on the pulpit and said. Dew to thircumsthanthis bewond my contwol we will not hath a thermon tewday. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
