[lace-chat] Recycling orts
Jeri wrote: However - a BIG However - wool takes long to dry compared to nest materials of grass and twigs. So, the latest wisdom is to not use woolen orts in this way. A dry nest is said to be better for baby birds. Bev wrote: I don't think that putting threads out, wool or otherwise, is a good idea for nesting material. We have had this in discussion a while back, the naturalists warned against it. When we lived in the countryside, in the spring, we used to see birds collecting bits of fleece which were caught on wire fencing when the sheep rubbed against the fence, and nests found after the birds had flown at the end of the breeding season were frequently lined with fleece. How do we tell the birds not to do that? :-D Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
[lace-chat] Recycling orts
In message 85d96628cf694664a5684ddb18eaf...@yourb45be3bb8c, Jean Nathan j...@nathan54.freeserve.co.uk writes When we lived in the countryside, in the spring, we used to see birds collecting bits of fleece which were caught on wire fencing when the sheep rubbed against the fence, and nests found after the birds had flown at the end of the breeding season were frequently lined with fleece. How do we tell the birds not to do that? :-D Wouldn't that be different in that the wool collected by the birds in this way would still have its natural oils, and be relatively waterproof as well as soft and warm for the chicks? We used to leave the fur brushed from the cats out for the birds to use - before Chloe, who no way will let you brush her! -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
[lace-chat] Recycling orts (2)
Jane wrote: Wouldn't that be different in that the wool collected by the birds in this way would still have its natural oils, and be relatively waterproof as well as soft and warm for the chicks? The birds tended to leave the fresh bits and go for the stuff that had been caught on the wire for a while and was soft and fluffy. I collected some for stuffing things, and even the fresh stuff wasn't really greasy. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
[lace-chat] recycling orts (3)
In actual fact, of course, birds will choose for themselves the most suitable materials for making their nest. They often choose natural from materials such as leaves, twigs, grass, hair, fur and feathers, as well as string or thread made from natural materials. But then some will choose stuff to decorate their nests such as silver foil or coins, and some will line them with mud. So it doesn't really matter if you put orts out for the birds - if they don't consider it suitable for their nest, they won't use it. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK . To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
[lace-chat] Question re cat transportation
As this group knows everything and has the answer to everything, I am hoping not to be disappointed this time! ! Our son has acquired a one-eyed kitten, and he is expecting to return from Pasadena to Chicago in early June. This is a 2200 mile road-trip which took him 3 days when he drove in the other direction. Somehow he wants to get this little creature back with him, but it hates being in the car, and cries the whole time. Now Matthew can cope with this crying for short distances, but not for 2200 miles! We thought of him flying back with it, but we guess it will probably cry just as much on the plane as in a car. We know that planes recommend not sedating animals for flights, as this affects their sense of balance which they need to stay safe. He may not be able to put the kitten in the hold in the summer, as if it is over 85F the airlines won't accept them. Does anyone have any bright ideas how to get the young cat here? Sue sueba...@comcast.net To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
Re: [lace-chat] recycling orts (3)
As I recall, when this first came up for discussion (not necessarily on this list...), the issue was not about moisture, but about color. When orts of brightly colored fibers were put out for the birds, and then put in nests, the bright colors attracted more predators. I think the major issue is that naturally occurring fibers are safe, and naturally occuring colors are safer than anything dyed when used within the fiber's natural environment. Clay On 1/25/2010 1:32 PM, Jean Nathan wrote: In actual fact, of course, birds will choose for themselves the most suitable materials for making their nest. They often choose natural from materials such as leaves, twigs, grass, hair, fur and feathers, as well as string or thread made from natural materials. But then some will choose stuff to decorate their nests such as silver foil or coins, and some will line them with mud. So it doesn't really matter if you put orts out for the birds - if they don't consider it suitable for their nest, they won't use it. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK . To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
