Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering?
> Hi all, > I guess everyone else is confused what I'm talking about. Wish I > knew! It's not smocking or pintucks. I mean little teeny tiny > pleats, going in one direction, not box pleats. They give a very > nice, neat look to the gathering I've seen in some antique clothing. > I don't know what it's called, or how they did it, but there must be > machine foot for it, I assume! Anyone know?? > > Thanks for all the ideas and suggestionsI appreciate everyone's > willingness to help out! Y'all are great! :<) > > Ricky T I think this is called goffering. There used to be goffering irons which a laundress would use after washing the garment. It sounds really difficult . http://www.objectlessons.org/index.php?mod=PageMod.showComponent§ion_id= 2&category_id=9&component_id=4&component_type=feature or if that link is split too badly go to http://www.objectlessons.org/index.php and search for goffering. Margery. === [EMAIL PROTECTED] in North Hertfordshire, UK === To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I figure someone out there probably knows what I'm trying ask. I don't know the right word for it. Does anyone know what the name is for the sewing machine foot that sort of makes a row of little tiny pleats for "gathering"? Does anyone have one? Do you like how it works? I have a Bernina, and I don't think my attachment box has one of those, and maybe it would be worth buying one, so I'm wondering if anyone out here has any knowledge or experience to guide me in making a decision? Ricky I think what you are looking for is a ruffler foot. I remember having one on my mother's old hand crank Singer. Bernina do make one but I don't have it so have no idea if it will pleat as fine as you wish. I did a google search and came up with these two. http://www.berninasewingshop.co.uk/accessories-haby/a-presset-feet-old/ruffler-foot-86-p-487.html http://www.berninasewingshop.co.uk/accessories-haby/b-presser-feet-new/ruffler-foot-86v-p-489.html This is a UK supplier but I assume that other countries will also carry the full range of Bernina assessories. -- Eve Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Morning All I think Joy hit the 'pin' on the head here... I've been thinking about it (dreaming) and mum used to take minute stitches, 2 rows, gather to the correct size and 'stroke' the fabric to make them all lie the same way. She used to do it with a pin though. You probably can do it with 2 rows of machine stitching one above the other, but it would be very difficult to get the threads in exactly the right place. Unfortunately Mum is no longer with us, and even if she were, she was suffering with Altzheimers latterly, so wouldn't have remembered anyway. However 8. If a knot, that cannot be untied, comes in the gathering thread, you will have to begin again. 9. When the seam is finished, remove the needle from the thread, and make a knot in this end of the thread. 10. Put a pin in vertically, close to the last stitch, taking up a few threads of the cloth. 11. Carefully draw up the thread, but not too tightly. Fig. 29—Showing the thread drawn up, and fastened around a pin.12. Wind the thread over the top, and under the point of the pin a number of times, crossing the threads at the middle of the pin (Fig. 29). Placing or stroking of gathers— 1. With the right side towards you, begin at the left-hand edge. Fig. 30—Showing the placing of gathers, with a large blunt needle2. Hold the work between the left thumb and forefinger, as in Fig. 30, keeping the thumb below the gathering thread. 3. Put the point of the large needle under the gathering thread, holding it obliquely. 4. Press the needle towards the thumb, bringing the little plait under the thumb, and drawing the needle downwards. 5. Pinch it down tightly. This was taken from Joy's link (Well Done Joy!!) And that is EXACTLY how she did it!! but using the 2nd row to hold the first in place once gathered!! If it was a wedding dress or christening gown she would make a third row below the seam to ensure the fabric didn't slip, then machine, then take out all erroneous threads!! Sue On 30 Jun 2008, at 03:09, Joy Beeson wrote: On 6/29/08 7:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . . . I am really interested in trying to learn how to make those teeny tiny pleats for gathering that you see in some antique clothing, Some old books I read waxed quite contemptuous of women so lazy that they didn't "stroke their gathers"; I gather that this was done by putting the eye-end of the needle into each individual pleat and stroking downward to settle it. Since it helps with machine gathering so much, I suspect that it would help to make *two* rows of your hand gathering stitches. Two points determine a line, so securing the crease at two points would make it more likely to run in the wanted direction. The stitches must, of course, be exactly the same in both rows. It would probably help to mark the fabric first, or practice on gingham or some other fabric with woven-in guide marks. Or, if you can see the weave, go under two threads and over six, or however many will make the pleats of the desired width. (A stitch must always take up at least two threads of the fabric, as a single thread is likely to break.) http://vintagesewing.info/index.html probably has a book that explains how stroked gathers are made. It do! http://vintagesewing.info/19th/1892-sn/sn-02.html#gather Note that it says to use the point of the needle to stroke the gathers; other books criticize this practice on the grounds that the sharp point weakens the fabric. (Oops: the material list specifies a *blunt* needle.) If your fingers cramp, the needle can be mounted in a pin vise. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange http://www.timeswrsw.com/craig/cam/ (local weather) west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where it's raining again. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering?
Morning All I think Joy has hit the pin on the head here On 30 Jun 2008, at 03:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aha ! Thanks, Joy, and one and all for the great ideas, links, terminology and suggestions. It looks to me like cartridge pleating is not flat the way what I'm talking about is, but it is regular like that. I think they are similar. I can use this method, and tack them down in one direction, like knife pleats, in the cotton fabric I'm working. Actually, I have an antique piece I'm reworking now, and it looks like someone used to have those tiny pin-pleats, knife- pleats, cartridge-pleats or whatever in there and it's been picked out. Darn it. But at least, I'm learning. I can use the marks in the cloth to resew the lines, draw it up, then tack them down in one direction, going back over it, before I attach the piece above. I really appreciate the great ideas, and leads. Any others that might come along too! You all are really fabulous I mean it! Regards, Ricki T in SLC, heading for another (short!) workweek... -Original Message- From: Joy Beeson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: lace-chat@arachne.com Sent: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 8:09 pm Subject: Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering? On 6/29/08 7:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:? ? . . . I am really interested in trying to learn how to make those teeny tiny pleats for gathering that you see in some antique clothing,? ? Some old books I read waxed quite contemptuous of women so lazy that they didn't "stroke their gathers"; I gather that this was done by putting the eye-end of the needle into each individual pleat and stroking downward to settle it.? ? Since it helps with machine gathering so much, I suspect that it would help to make *two* rows of your hand gathering stitches. Two points determine a line, so securing the crease at two points would make it more likely to run in the wanted direction. The stitches must, of course, be exactly the same in both rows. It would probably help to mark the fabric first, or practice on gingham or some other fabric with woven-in guide marks.? ? Or, if you can see the weave, go under two threads and over six, or however many will make the pleats of the desired width. (A stitch must always take up at least two threads of the fabric, as a single thread is likely to break.)? ? http://vintagesewing.info/index.html probably has a book that explains how stroked gathers are made.? ? It do!? ? http://vintagesewing.info/19th/1892-sn/sn-02.html#gather? ? Note that it says to use the point of the needle to stroke the gathers; other books criticize this practice on the grounds that the sharp point weakens the fabric. (Oops: the material list specifies a *blunt* needle.)? ? If your fingers cramp, the needle can be mounted in a pin vise.? ? -- Joy Beeson? http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/? http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/? http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange? http://www.timeswrsw.com/craig/cam/ (local weather)? west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A.? where it's raining again.? ? To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line:? unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to? [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering?
The other thing about regular gathering: the instructions all say to run one line of gathering thread ON the seam line and another 1/4" into the seam allowance. If instead you run one 1/8" inside the seam allowance and the other 1/8" into the garment, then pull up the gathers and sew ON the seam allowance halfway between the two, you can then remove the line of stitching in the garment (this assumes you have fabric that doesn't show the needle holes!), and the gathers are ever so much less likely to flip that little corner up into the seam. If it's a skirt and you are concerned about leaving only one line of gathering threads, in case the seam comes out, run three to begin with. -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering?
Aha ! Thanks, Joy, and one and all for the great ideas, links, terminology and suggestions. It looks to me like cartridge pleating is not flat the way what I'm talking about is, but it is regular like that. I think they are similar. I can use this method, and tack them down in one direction, like knife pleats, in the cotton fabric I'm working. Actually, I have an antique piece I'm reworking now, and it looks like someone used to have those tiny pin-pleats, knife-pleats, cartridge-pleats or whatever in there and it's been picked out. Darn it. But at least, I'm learning. I can use the marks in the cloth to resew the lines, draw it up, then tack them down in one direction, going back over it, before I attach the piece above. I really appreciate the great ideas, and leads. Any others that might come along too! You all are really fabulous I mean it! Regards, Ricki T in SLC, heading for another (short!) workweek... -Original Message- From: Joy Beeson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: lace-chat@arachne.com Sent: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 8:09 pm Subject: Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering? On 6/29/08 7:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:? ? > . . . I am really interested in trying to learn how to > make those teeny tiny pleats for gathering that you see > in some antique clothing,? ? Some old books I read waxed quite contemptuous of women so lazy that they didn't "stroke their gathers"; I gather that this was done by putting the eye-end of the needle into each individual pleat and stroking downward to settle it.? ? Since it helps with machine gathering so much, I suspect that it would help to make *two* rows of your hand gathering stitches. Two points determine a line, so securing the crease at two points would make it more likely to run in the wanted direction. The stitches must, of course, be exactly the same in both rows. It would probably help to mark the fabric first, or practice on gingham or some other fabric with woven-in guide marks.? ? Or, if you can see the weave, go under two threads and over six, or however many will make the pleats of the desired width. (A stitch must always take up at least two threads of the fabric, as a single thread is likely to break.)? ? http://vintagesewing.info/index.html probably has a book that explains how stroked gathers are made.? ? It do!? ? http://vintagesewing.info/19th/1892-sn/sn-02.html#gather? ? Note that it says to use the point of the needle to stroke the gathers; other books criticize this practice on the grounds that the sharp point weakens the fabric. (Oops: the material list specifies a *blunt* needle.)? ? If your fingers cramp, the needle can be mounted in a pin vise.? ? -- Joy Beeson? http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/? http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/? http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange? http://www.timeswrsw.com/craig/cam/ (local weather)? west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A.? where it's raining again.? ? To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line:? unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to? [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering?
On 6/29/08 7:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . . . I am really interested in trying to learn how to make those teeny tiny pleats for gathering that you see in some antique clothing, Some old books I read waxed quite contemptuous of women so lazy that they didn't "stroke their gathers"; I gather that this was done by putting the eye-end of the needle into each individual pleat and stroking downward to settle it. Since it helps with machine gathering so much, I suspect that it would help to make *two* rows of your hand gathering stitches. Two points determine a line, so securing the crease at two points would make it more likely to run in the wanted direction. The stitches must, of course, be exactly the same in both rows. It would probably help to mark the fabric first, or practice on gingham or some other fabric with woven-in guide marks. Or, if you can see the weave, go under two threads and over six, or however many will make the pleats of the desired width. (A stitch must always take up at least two threads of the fabric, as a single thread is likely to break.) http://vintagesewing.info/index.html probably has a book that explains how stroked gathers are made. It do! http://vintagesewing.info/19th/1892-sn/sn-02.html#gather Note that it says to use the point of the needle to stroke the gathers; other books criticize this practice on the grounds that the sharp point weakens the fabric. (Oops: the material list specifies a *blunt* needle.) If your fingers cramp, the needle can be mounted in a pin vise. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange http://www.timeswrsw.com/craig/cam/ (local weather) west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where it's raining again. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering?
On 6/29/08 5:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I figure someone out there probably knows what I'm trying ask. I don't know the right word for it. Does anyone know what the name is for the sewing machine foot that sort of makes a row of little tiny pleats for "gathering"? Does anyone have one? Do you like how it works? I have a Bernina, and I don't think my attachment box has one of those, and maybe it would be worth buying one, so I'm wondering if anyone out here has any knowledge or experience to guide me in making a decision? The one that came with my White Family Rotary, a treadle machine someone traded in on a Touch and Swear while I was working at the Singer Store -- I ransomed it from the landfill for ten dollars -- is called a "ruffler". I remember it working quite well when I was playing with my new toy, but I never wear ruffles, so I've never used it for real. I think that someone who knows how to use a ruffling machine can adjust it to pleat an exact ratio. I didn't think they made rufflers to fit modern machines, but a quick Google turned up lots of hits. The first hit after I added "Bernina" to the search field said that Bernina's ruffler is Foot #86. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange http://www.timeswrsw.com/craig/cam/ (local weather) west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where it's raining again. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering?
The sizes I gave are appropriate for a broadcloth skirt; if you want them finer than that, then you need to make the stitches shorter. On the other hand, if you mean long vertical lines, you are talking pin tucks, and there are feet to do that -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I think you mean cartridge pleating. What you need is four or five rows of parallel hand stitching, each stitch about 1/4" or 3/16" long, and the rows of stitching no more than 1/4 to 3/8" apart, with the "under" stitch on each row at the same mark. You have to mark the lines, and preferably also mark the stitch positions. I've done it on the Folkwear dirndl, and it came out really well. Use button-and-carpet thread, and leave a long tail on each end. Then pull them up, and tie pairs of the gathering threads together. -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, I think a double needle can be used for pin pleats, though I call them pintucks so maybe it's not what you mean. I haven't made them in ages but I think my sewing machine book explained. Possibly pulling on the bobbin thread so the two lines of sewing are brought together. I used them on a christening gown with lace insertions, etc. Jane in Vemont, USA where it's very humid! [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Date: Sunday, June 29, 2008 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering? > Yes, that's it! Pin-pleats is exactly what I'm talking about! >Too bad there's no foot to do the work. There should be! It's really a beautiful effect. >Guess I'll try to keep at it with needle and thread until I get the hang of it, and find a good technique to use...unless...is your mum still around to ask for advice, perchance?? >At least I have the name now -- pin-pleats!! Thanks, Sue! What a resource you listmembers are! >Many thanks, >Ricki T > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yes, that's it! Pin-pleats is exactly what I'm talking about! Too bad there's no foot to do the work. There should be! It's really a beautiful effect. Guess I'll try to keep at it with needle and thread until I get the hang of it, and find a good technique to use...unless...is your mum still around to ask for advice, perchance?? At least I have the name now -- pin-pleats!! Thanks, Sue! What a resource you listmembers are! Many thanks, Ricki T -Original Message- From: Sue Duckles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lace-chat@arachne.com Sent: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering? Thinking about it pin pleats!!, literally very slightly more than the thickness of a pin!!? ? Never seen a foot that will do them!!? ? Sue in EY? On 30 Jun 2008, at 00:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:? ? > Hi all,? > I guess everyone else is confused what I'm talking about. Wish I > knew! It's > not smocking or pintucks. I mean little teeny tiny > pleats, going in one > direction, not box pleats. They give a very > nice, neat look to the > gathering I've seen in some antique clothing. > I don't know what it's > called, or how they did it, but there must be > machine foot for it, I > assume! Anyone know??? >? > Thanks for all the ideas and suggestionsI appreciate everyone's > > willingness to help out! Y'all are great! :<)? >? > Ricky T? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? > -Original Message-----? > From: Janice Blair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>? > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 5:17 pm? > Subject: Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering?? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? > I think you mean smocking. I don't have a foot and have not done it > since > I was? > in school a long looong time ago.? > Janice? >? > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sue,? >? > Thanks for the tip. I have done lots of gathering in my day, and > that's a > good? > idea I'll keep in mind.? But at this point I am really interested in > trying > to? > learn how to make those teeny tiny pleats for gathering that you see > in > some? > antique clothing, if you know what I mean! I'm trying doing it by > hand, but > it's? > not completely successful at this point? >? > Regards,? > Ricki T? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? > -Original Message-? > From: Sue Babbs? > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 3:59 pm? > Subject: Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering?? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? > I have a Viking machine and don't know about Bernina feet. I > believe there? > are proper feet to do small pleats if that is what you are looking > for, but? > if all you are trying to do is gather fabric, like in the skirt of a > dress,? > the simplest thing to do is to zigzag over cord (eg heavy crochet > cotton).? > This works so much more easily than the traditional two rows of > parallel? > stitching.?? >? > Sue ?? >? > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the > line:?? >? > unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to?? >? > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >? > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the > line:? > unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to? > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >? >? >? > Janice Blair? > Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA? > www.jblace.com? > http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org/? > www.landoflincolnlacemakers.com Check for class spaces, many are > full.? >? > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the > line:? > unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to? > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >? > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the > line:? > unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to? > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thinking about it pin pleats!!, literally very slightly more than the thickness of a pin!! Never seen a foot that will do them!! Sue in EY On 30 Jun 2008, at 00:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I guess everyone else is confused what I'm talking about. Wish I knew! It's not smocking or pintucks. I mean little teeny tiny pleats, going in one direction, not box pleats. They give a very nice, neat look to the gathering I've seen in some antique clothing. I don't know what it's called, or how they did it, but there must be machine foot for it, I assume! Anyone know?? Thanks for all the ideas and suggestionsI appreciate everyone's willingness to help out! Y'all are great! :<) Ricky T -Original Message- From: Janice Blair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace-chat@arachne.com Sent: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 5:17 pm Subject: Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering? I think you mean smocking. I don't have a foot and have not done it since I was in school a long looong time ago. Janice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sue, Thanks for the tip. I have done lots of gathering in my day, and that's a good idea I'll keep in mind.? But at this point I am really interested in trying to learn how to make those teeny tiny pleats for gathering that you see in some antique clothing, if you know what I mean! I'm trying doing it by hand, but it's not completely successful at this point Regards, Ricki T -Original Message- From: Sue Babbs To: lace-chat@arachne.com Sent: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 3:59 pm Subject: Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering? I have a Viking machine and don't know about Bernina feet. I believe there are proper feet to do small pleats if that is what you are looking for, but if all you are trying to do is gather fabric, like in the skirt of a dress, the simplest thing to do is to zigzag over cord (eg heavy crochet cotton). This works so much more easily than the traditional two rows of parallel stitching.? Sue ? To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line:? unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to? [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org/ www.landoflincolnlacemakers.com Check for class spaces, many are full. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering?
Hi Ricky Mum used to do this type of gathering by hand using very tiny stitches! Gather the area then pin to whatever it's attached, then stitch! I don't think there was ever a real name for it!! Sue in EY On 30 Jun 2008, at 00:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I guess everyone else is confused what I'm talking about. Wish I knew! It's not smocking or pintucks. I mean little teeny tiny pleats, going in one direction, not box pleats. They give a very nice, neat look to the gathering I've seen in some antique clothing. I don't know what it's called, or how they did it, but there must be machine foot for it, I assume! Anyone know?? Thanks for all the ideas and suggestionsI appreciate everyone's willingness to help out! Y'all are great! :<) Ricky T -Original Message- From: Janice Blair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace-chat@arachne.com Sent: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 5:17 pm Subject: Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering? I think you mean smocking. I don't have a foot and have not done it since I was in school a long looong time ago. Janice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sue, Thanks for the tip. I have done lots of gathering in my day, and that's a good idea I'll keep in mind.? But at this point I am really interested in trying to learn how to make those teeny tiny pleats for gathering that you see in some antique clothing, if you know what I mean! I'm trying doing it by hand, but it's not completely successful at this point Regards, Ricki T -Original Message- From: Sue Babbs To: lace-chat@arachne.com Sent: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 3:59 pm Subject: Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering? I have a Viking machine and don't know about Bernina feet. I believe there are proper feet to do small pleats if that is what you are looking for, but if all you are trying to do is gather fabric, like in the skirt of a dress, the simplest thing to do is to zigzag over cord (eg heavy crochet cotton). This works so much more easily than the traditional two rows of parallel stitching.? Sue ? To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line:? unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to? [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org/ www.landoflincolnlacemakers.com Check for class spaces, many are full. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering?
Hi all, I guess everyone else is confused what I'm talking about. Wish I knew! It's not smocking or pintucks. I mean little teeny tiny pleats, going in one direction, not box pleats. They give a very nice, neat look to the gathering I've seen in some antique clothing. I don't know what it's called, or how they did it, but there must be machine foot for it, I assume! Anyone know?? Thanks for all the ideas and suggestionsI appreciate everyone's willingness to help out! Y'all are great! :<) Ricky T -Original Message- From: Janice Blair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace-chat@arachne.com Sent: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 5:17 pm Subject: Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering? I think you mean smocking. I don't have a foot and have not done it since I was in school a long looong time ago. Janice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sue, Thanks for the tip. I have done lots of gathering in my day, and that's a good idea I'll keep in mind.? But at this point I am really interested in trying to learn how to make those teeny tiny pleats for gathering that you see in some antique clothing, if you know what I mean! I'm trying doing it by hand, but it's not completely successful at this point Regards, Ricki T -Original Message- From: Sue Babbs To: lace-chat@arachne.com Sent: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 3:59 pm Subject: Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering? I have a Viking machine and don't know about Bernina feet. I believe there are proper feet to do small pleats if that is what you are looking for, but if all you are trying to do is gather fabric, like in the skirt of a dress, the simplest thing to do is to zigzag over cord (eg heavy crochet cotton). This works so much more easily than the traditional two rows of parallel stitching.? Sue ? To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line:? unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to? [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org/ www.landoflincolnlacemakers.com Check for class spaces, many are full. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering?
I think you mean smocking. I don't have a foot and have not done it since I was in school a long looong time ago. Janice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sue, Thanks for the tip. I have done lots of gathering in my day, and that's a good idea I'll keep in mind.? But at this point I am really interested in trying to learn how to make those teeny tiny pleats for gathering that you see in some antique clothing, if you know what I mean! I'm trying doing it by hand, but it's not completely successful at this point Regards, Ricki T -Original Message- From: Sue Babbs To: lace-chat@arachne.com Sent: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 3:59 pm Subject: Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering? I have a Viking machine and don't know about Bernina feet. I believe there are proper feet to do small pleats if that is what you are looking for, but if all you are trying to do is gather fabric, like in the skirt of a dress, the simplest thing to do is to zigzag over cord (eg heavy crochet cotton). This works so much more easily than the traditional two rows of parallel stitching.? Sue ? To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line:? unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to? [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org/ www.landoflincolnlacemakers.com Check for class spaces, many are full. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering?
Hi Sue, Thanks for the tip. I have done lots of gathering in my day, and that's a good idea I'll keep in mind.? But at this point I am really interested in trying to learn how to make those teeny tiny pleats for gathering that you see in some antique clothing, if you know what I mean! I'm trying doing it by hand, but it's not completely successful at this point Regards, Ricki T -Original Message- From: Sue Babbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: lace-chat@arachne.com Sent: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 3:59 pm Subject: Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering? I have a Viking machine and don't know about Bernina feet. I believe there are proper feet to do small pleats if that is what you are looking for, but if all you are trying to do is gather fabric, like in the skirt of a dress, the simplest thing to do is to zigzag over cord (eg heavy crochet cotton). This works so much more easily than the traditional two rows of parallel stitching.? Sue ? To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line:? unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to? [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering?
I have a Viking machine and don't know about Bernina feet. I believe there are proper feet to do small pleats if that is what you are looking for, but if all you are trying to do is gather fabric, like in the skirt of a dress, the simplest thing to do is to zigzag over cord (eg heavy crochet cotton). This works so much more easily than the traditional two rows of parallel stitching. Sue To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]