Re: How to turn off the new LV7 error probe while debugging?

2004-03-05 Thread KyleBryson
> I quess we should not mention it to Kyle :.

Hello all,
:-) It appears that I should have said that there is no
supported way to change the default behavior.  As you all have
discovered, there is no setting for disabling the smart probe in the
'training wheels' options.  I am a bit surprised the behavior when the
file is missing is to revert quietly to the old one, but I'm glad that
you found a workaround for your problem.

Thanks for the additional info on why you are not satisfied with the
default probe.  The 'smart' error probe does not work after the data
has passed because the probe is actually a VI.  The VI receives the
error as an input when the error reaches the probe in the dataflow.
The older probe is a simpler intrinsic structure that does not follow
the behavior of a VI.

This issue has been documented, and change of the 'smart probe'
behavior will be considered for future development.  Thanks again for
the information and the workaround.

Have a good day,
Kyle Bryson
National Instruments



Re: How to turn off the new LV7 error probe while debugging?

2004-03-05 Thread Greg McKaskle
> Since I am complaning I must say that most of the inventions in LV7
> does not work for me. Fancy icons for controls, strange looking bad
> wires, completelly useless menu, etc. The only reason why I stick to
> LV7 is the dynamic events. Otherwise I will uninstall it ASAP. I guess
> that NI forgot about programmers which do LV for a living not for fun.
> 

Not completely forgotten, but there were a number of experiments to try 
and make LV more friendly to new users.  If you find that you don't need 
the training wheel features -- as I like to call them -- you can turn 
most of them, or hopefully all of them off in the Tools Options dialog. 
  If you poke around a little, you will find them, or you can ask, like 
you did for the probe.

And if it isn't in there, many things, like the probe are actually 
written as VIs and can be disabled via other means.

Greg McKaskle




Re: How to turn off the new LV7 error probe while debugging?

2004-03-05 Thread pawel
Hello Wiebe again

You are perfectly right. I have removed the file you mentioned and my
old generic probe came in the place.

Thank you very much,
I quess we should not mention it to Kyle :.

kind regards
Pawel



Re: How to turn off the new LV7 error probe while debugging?

2004-03-04 Thread pawel
Hello Kyle

Thank you for your answer, which BTW is not what I expected. The new
smart probe is not so smart, I believe, since it must be placed before
the data flow reach the probe. The old generioc probe will read the
wire contents even though I placed it after the dataflow passes the
wire.
That is my biggest problem which successfully prohibits from using the
new probe.
Now every time I need to click three times more, if I rememeber. If I
dont, I need to close smart probe and place a generic again. That
takes time. In case of troublefull application, when I need to restart
LV quite often this msart probe realy gives a lot of time lose.

Since I am complaning I must say that most of the inventions in LV7
does not work for me. Fancy icons for controls, strange looking bad
wires, completelly useless menu, etc. The only reason why I stick to
LV7 is the dynamic events. Otherwise I will uninstall it ASAP. I guess
that NI forgot about programmers which do LV for a living not for fun.

kind regards
Pawel



Re: How to turn off the new LV7 error probe while debugging?

2004-03-04 Thread KyleBryson
Hi Pawel,

I do not believe that there is a method for changing the default error
probe.  Once you make the selection of the generic probe, LabVIEW will
default to that, but does not remember this when closed and restarted.
I apologize for the inconvenience.

If you have any more questions or would like to report a specific
problem with the smart error probe, please reply with more
information.

Thank you,
Kyle Bryson
National Instruments