Re: LI Sleep Apnea
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: HI Sue, LOL...I don't know the question. Have you ever dreamed that you were reading something but it was just gibberish and made no sense? That's what this was like. And all the while I was trying to tell him that I couldn't breathe. :) Hmm, a ball in the back of my pajamas, eh? I'm in big trouble. I don't sleep in pajamas! G Bill On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:33:06 -0800 Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Bill: It very well could have been. I really wouldn't worry that much about a single episode, but I would mention it to your doc the next time you happen to see him though. I heard that if you place a ball in the back of your pj's it helps. BG I bet you were just worried about that question that the prof asked you. Maybe it left you speachless. :) BTW what was the question? You haven't told us yet. BG Sue Hi Sue, Thanks for the information. The only thing I noticed is that when I had my one and only episode (if it was really an episode and not part of the dream) I was sleeping on my back. I rarely sleep on my back. Maybe that's the reason. G Bill Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Re: Mania
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Kathy: I thought it was illegal to own poisonous snakes. My brother in law got into real trouble because he was collecting rattle snakes. When the city of San Diego found out about it, they went out and collected all the snakes and fined him big time. Of course the guy fried his brains on drugs long before this happened so I guess something like this wasn't unusual for him. The only reason anyone found out about it was because one of them got lose in the house and his mom called the cops to come find it. LOL Whole thing was on the news and everything. Poor Ron was sitting here watching the news when all of a sudden there was his mom and brother on it. And the cops saying that they were taking in the rattle snake collection. It was a trip. LOL Then again they are all nuts. BG Not Ron, just the others. :) Sue Well Mania likes to play games, she loves to climb trees, and of course it's hard to get her down once she is in one since she wraps it, so we'll let her just get to the tree then drag her away LOL, it's a little game we all play :) Yea I'm a softy for animals :) I hate seeing them hurt or mistreated. But I am limited I would never own a "hot" snake (poisonous) I think those people are crazy! LOL Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Re: Disparity in Infant Mortality Rates
Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Doc The asbestos thing is probably as great a risk. They just removed the asbestos above the auditorium I was teaching in 4 years ago when I was still teaching in it and there were at least 200 students in each class. We still have asbestos removal going on. jackief DocCec wrote: DocCec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 98-03-10 06:43:03 EST, you write: For demographers, neonatal death occurs within the first 28 days and infant mortality within a year, I believe. I would imagine the medical profession uses the same cut-offs. So, I wonder if there would be many lead-based paint fatalities, I wouldn't think so. There may be more than you'd think. African American children, particularly those of west African extraction, tend to walk at younger ages than do caucasian children and are thus better able to get to those crumbling windowsills to nibble. Most of the small children around here are walking quite well by 9 months of age. I don;t know the incidence of lead paint fatalities in general, though. I do know it leads to lots of illness, failure to thrive, learning problems, things like that. I wonder about the asbestos problem too. In the inner city we still have schools with asbestos-wrapped pipes. Yeah, I know, that's an outrage. But so much is an outrage in the city that one just says "Oh, well, it's one more." Doc Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues -- In the sociology room the children learn that even dreams are colored by your perspective I toss and turn all night.Theresa Burns, "The Sociology Room" Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Computers/Admissions
"Dr.L.D.Misek-Falkoff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Bill - turns out that it is a January 1997 trial. Don't you love it when they raise a question, and if you have the time you can (that is, one can, since you yourself are probably not hooked) wait around three days to hear the matter come up again. I may never know if in California v. Bray and Ayers or Akers the computer files, like diaries, did come in or not (as 'state of mind' exception to hearsay, for example). The consolation is that whatever way the judge rules (here regarding possible plans to commit murder), it is interesting to hear the sides argued. Thx for the post! :-) LDMF. -William J. Foristal wrote:-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: Hello Doctor, I would think it would be identical to a tape recorded statement. Even if someone makes the tape and never plays if for anyone I would think it could be offered as evidence if it met the other criteria. Let us know what the judge rules. Bill On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:31:08 -0800 "Dr.L.D.Misek-Falkoff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Dr.L.D.Misek-Falkoff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is anyone watching the Court-tiv 'Murdered Mom' (Ayers trial) where they are arguing to a judge that what is input to a computer is not a statement unless and until published to someone? The judge is saying that a statement is justan oral or written expression sop computer files are admissible. Lawyer is arguing that its just a thought process, when someone types into a computer, unless and until it is published. Overall context is whether its a statement and under the evidence code can be admitted. Judge hasn't ruled yet (defense is saying its hearsay, if it is a statement at all). :) LDMF PS: commentator says its like a diary, not intended to be read but can be used against someone. Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Photo Gallery
Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Bill And the moral of the tale was that the young should not be out parking and engaging in exploration. I know that snakes are interesting because they lack appendages, etc so it is fascinating to see how they survive. Guess it is a 'girl' thing about snakes (oh jackie, how sexist of you VVBG). I really don't know why people tend to shy away from snakes. jackief William J. Foristal wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 04:48:39 -0600 Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Bill Probably an urban myth--sort of like the cat and babies, I would imagine. May have happened that the snake was looking, but then the conclusion was that the snake was looking for dinner. However, I am not going to be the one to test this at all. Like Kaye, I have a healthy respect for snakes--I respect their privacy and I feel healthy about doing so. But, I do know there are people who enjoy them as pets, but as Kathy says--if you are going to have pets, you use common sense in the pet you choose. Urban myths are fun though as they really are "morality stories" in disguise. jackief Hi Jackie, Either morality stories or an attempt to frighten, gross out or shock. Remember the old stories like the one about the couple making out in the car and the one armed serial killer they hear a story about on the radio. He escaped from prison that night. Then they find the hook on the door handle of the car. LOL. I've never had a big problem with snakes, but I don't mess with them. I like to see them in the zoo, however. And I got to touch a python once when a guy brought him into work. You could feel the muscles under the skin and could just imagine how easily a snake of that size could squeeze a person to death. Bill _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues -- In the sociology room the children learn that even dreams are colored by your perspective I toss and turn all night.Theresa Burns, "The Sociology Room" Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Computers/Admissions/Bill-
"Dr.L.D.Misek-Falkoff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill - your post is intriguing. Re California v. Bray and Ayers, Yes, Courttv. Is it really possible to find out how particular sub-rulings come out, on the Internet? This was such an interesting interplay on the issue of whether computer logs to the 'self' vary from diaries; I don't think I'll hear how the judge rules, as they have moved on to other forensic issues as to what was discovered on the premises including but not limited to disks that were lying around; please post if there is a way to follow up, as I only thought one could look up final verdicts on their website. :) LDMF. ---William J. Foristal wrote:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: Hello Doctor, I know exactly what you mean. It's like reading a book and not wanting to look ahead to how the plot is resolved. You could always find the answer on the net somewhere, I'm sure, but it's probably more fun waiting to see how they covered it. I'm assuming this is on Court TV? Bill On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:51:57 -0800 "Dr.L.D.Misek-Falkoff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Dr.L.D.Misek-Falkoff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Bill - turns out that it is a January 1997 trial. Don't you love it when they raise a question, and if you have the time you can (that is, one can, since you yourself are probably not hooked) wait around three days to hear the matter come up again. I may never know if in California v. Bray and Ayers or Akers the computer files, like diaries, did come in or not (as 'state of mind' exception to hearsay, for example). The consolation is that whatever way the judge rules (here regarding possible plans to commit murder), it is interesting to hear the sides argued. Thx for the post! :-) LDMF. -William J. Foristal wrote:-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: Hello Doctor, I would think it would be identical to a tape recorded statement. Even if someone makes the tape and never plays if for anyone I would think it could be offered as evidence if it met the other criteria. Let us know what the judge rules. Bill On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:31:08 -0800 "Dr.L.D.Misek-Falkoff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Dr.L.D.Misek-Falkoff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is anyone watching the Court-tiv 'Murdered Mom' (Ayers trial) where they are arguing to a judge that what is input to a computer is not a statement unless and until published to someone? The judge is saying that a statement is justan oral or written expression sop computer files are admissible. Lawyer is arguing that its just a thought process, when someone types into a computer, unless and until it is published. Overall context is whether its a statement and under the evidence code can be admitted. Judge hasn't ruled yet (defense is saying its hearsay, if it is a statement at all). :) LDMF PS: commentator says its like a diary, not intended to be read but can be used against someone. Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Flying Saucers
Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Doc I guess you are right. History shows us that. But, one can dream and hope that at some point in time we would learn. BTW--off topic but us ENFPs have quite the learning style--Have you heard of Mind Mapping?? Says we would benefit from it--almost scared to know what it is G. I am having more fun with this stuff--who says research can't be fun!! jackief DocCec wrote: DocCec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 98-03-10 17:53:42 EST, you write: I wonder what would happen if someone that was esteemed and thought to be highly intelligent, etc. suddenly announced he/she had been abducted. jackief I suspect he or she would rapidly cease to be esteemed and thought to be intelligent. It's much easier to disparage the teacher than it is to learn something new. Doc Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues -- In the sociology room the children learn that even dreams are colored by your perspective I toss and turn all night.Theresa Burns, "The Sociology Room" Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Re: Disparity in Infant Mortality Rates
Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Doc You know I wish there was still a way for people to live the life for a week--maybe understanding would come more quickly. A prof. in Mankato I know used to be able to take a small class to a big city--give them $5 and turn them loose in the inner city. He taught a class on city problems--including the homeless. He had watchers that seen to it that no one got into impossible situations--this is no longer possible so he no longer does this. But the students learned what it was like to try to access the "helping?" organizations, to wonder where they would sleep or eat that night, and feel the contempt that others directed toward them. I talked to a few of his former students and it still made an impression on them. Many became social activists afterwards. jackief DocCec wrote: DocCec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 98-03-10 18:11:10 EST, you write: I know that it is not only poor sanitary conditions. Some have pointed out that when you consider the housing in general in some areas there are broken or cracked windows, inadequate heating and/or ventilation. So much can affect a young child. Think what that millions and millions being spent on you know what could accomplish. jackief I look at our inner city areas and I see all that plus the lack of adequate/safe play areas, overcrowding, insect infestations, poor schools, stores that sell spoiled food taken from suburban store shelves, and the every present danger. Day before yesterday a ten year old girl was shot on the street near her home. Ho-hum, no big deal, he "didn't mean to" shoot her, she just got caught in the crossfire. Living that way has to have a negative effect, not matter how much one may be "used to it." Doc Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues -- In the sociology room the children learn that even dreams are colored by your perspective I toss and turn all night.Theresa Burns, "The Sociology Room" Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Sleep Apnea
Robert Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: morning jackie my brother sleeps with two body pillows.and yes it does help to have the head raised. bob,wa Jackie Fellows wrote: Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Bill Sue, does it help if the person is elevated to a degree?? -- I dont suffer from stress.I'M a carrier.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
LI Re: EMF/Jackie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: HI Jackie, I'm sure Steve will elaborate on this, but the major cause of tides is the gravitational pull of the moon as it orbits around the earth. As for minerals, Calcium is essential for healthy bones and Iron is essential for the hemoglobin that carries oxygen through the blood and transfers it to our organs. Potassium, Selenium and many others also play important roles in our health. And since we don't make minerals we have to get them via diet or supplements. Bill On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:34:27 -0600 Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Steve Off on a tanget here (I never have been accused of linear thinking g). What is it that causes tides?? Another question I have: when we take minerals, what are the minerals restoring in our body (basic elements of minerals)?? Steve, if this research would be increased and it did point out some things that may pose risks, will there be the legal debate that occurred with cigarettes that is still continuing today? jackief _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
LI Re: Sleep apnea
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: Hi Jackie, There is also a type of dreaming (it has a name but I can't remember it now) where the person dreaming can actually control the dream and what happens. It's kind of like an internal virtual reality system. G Some people can actually go to sleep and plan a dream, then when they start dreaming will control the plot as if they are directing a movie. I feel I'm lucky if I can just avoid the bad dreams, or not remember them. Bill On Wed, 11 Mar 1998 04:30:56 -0600 Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Bill I have heard--gossip I guess--that most people don't dream in color. Also have heard that only a few dream textually (?)--feel the texture of things they are dreaming about. jackief William J. Foristal wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:33:59 EST DocCec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DocCec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 98-03-10 11:46:44 EST, you write: Yeah, if it happened more than once I'd be sure to at least mention it to the doctor. It's funny that I even remember the dream. Usually I don't. Bill The only time I remember a dream is on the rare occasion that I wake in the midst of one. Perhaps that's what happened -- something woke you before the dream was done. Doc Hi Doc, That's exactly what happened. I couldn't breathe! :) BTW, do you know if you dream in color? T hat's another thing I never remember, even when I can remember the dream. Bill _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues -- In the sociology room the children learn that even dreams are colored by your perspective I toss and turn all night.Theresa Burns, "The Sociology Room" Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI The Nanny Case - A British Perspective
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:14:16 EST DocCec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DocCec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 98-03-10 19:55:12 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However, now that time has passed and she has remained under the cloud of suspicion and has had to stay in Massachussetts while the appeal was being prepared makes me feel that the best thing is to end it here, leave things as they were decided by the judge and let her go home. If I were a gambler, that's the outcome I'd bet on. (Me, I bet the favorite to show -- old "sure thing" kid here.) Seems the best of the available alternatives. Doc Hi Doc, The primary factor might be that they argued both appeals before the same court at the same time. Pretty easy to compromise on the ruling under those circumstances. If neither side could offer a strongly compelling reason, then the logical thing is to let the ruling stand. Bill _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Computers/Admissions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: Hi Jackie, Good points and I don't know the answer. :) I think that there are very strict rules about when this type of evidence can be accepted by the judge. But there has to be some situations where it should be accepted, IMO. For example, what if this kind of evidence is the only evidence showing that someone is an unfit parent and should not have custody of their children. Should it be ignored? I don't think so. But it IS a touchy issue and the big problem, IMO, is when prosecutors and/or judges might abuse the rules and accept these items of evidence when it is more prejudicial than probative. Bill On Wed, 11 Mar 1998 04:28:10 -0600 Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Bill and Dr. L Here I go again--off the wall questions about things. It just occurred to me that if evidence such as diaries, computer files, etc. are admissible as evidence than is that going to affect one of the counseling tools that are often used to assist clients in coming to terms with their anger, past abuse issues, etc. Journaling, writing poetry or stories is a very effective and popular therapy tool. However, if courts are going to allow this type of material to enter as evidence--then what?? Just a thought. jackief William J. Foristal wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: Hello Doctor, I know exactly what you mean. It's like reading a book and not wanting to look ahead to how the plot is resolved. You could always find the answer on the net somewhere, I'm sure, but it's probably more fun waiting to see how they covered it. I'm assuming this is on Court TV? Bill On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:51:57 -0800 "Dr.L.D.Misek-Falkoff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Dr.L.D.Misek-Falkoff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Bill - turns out that it is a January 1997 trial. Don't you love it when they raise a question, and if you have the time you can (that is, one can, since you yourself are probably not hooked) wait around three days to hear the matter come up again. I may never know if in California v. Bray and Ayers or Akers the computer files, like diaries, did come in or not (as 'state of mind' exception to hearsay, for example). The consolation is that whatever way the judge rules (here regarding possible plans to commit murder), it is interesting to hear the sides argued. Thx for the post! :-) LDMF. -William J. Foristal wrote:-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: Hello Doctor, I would think it would be identical to a tape recorded statement. Even if someone makes the tape and never plays if for anyone I would think it could be offered as evidence if it met the other criteria. Let us know what the judge rules. Bill On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:31:08 -0800 "Dr.L.D.Misek-Falkoff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Dr.L.D.Misek-Falkoff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is anyone watching the Court-tiv 'Murdered Mom' (Ayers trial) where they are arguing to a judge that what is input to a computer is not a statement unless and until published to someone? The judge is saying that a statement is justan oral or written expression sop computer files are admissible. Lawyer is arguing that its just a thought process, when someone types into a computer, unless and until it is published. Overall context is whether its a statement and under the evidence code can be admitted. Judge hasn't ruled yet (defense is saying its hearsay, if it is a statement at all). :) LDMF PS: commentator says its like a diary, not intended to be read but can be used against someone. Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues -- In the sociology room the children learn that even dreams are colored by your perspective I toss and turn all night.Theresa Burns, "The Sociology Room" Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the
Re: LI Sleep Apnea
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: Hi Jackie, LOL...I think the point was that if there was this ball inside the back of the pajama tops that it would be impossible for one to sleep on one's back. :) And my wife doesn't sew anything for me, so I probably won't ask her. G She thinks I'm crazy already. No need to give her things to support that idea. Bill On Wed, 11 Mar 1998 04:22:35 -0600 Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Bill Maybe your wife could make you a pouch with straps or a belt to put the ball in. g. Of course that would depend on where the ball was suppose to be--between the shoulder blades, small of the back?? And of course the size of the ball. I wonder what the ball really does for a person? Sue, does it help if the person is elevated to a degree?? I know they are researching sleep apnea in Fargo at the PRACS institute--one of my students was involved in the study, but he never said what they were doing. His teachers all received a notice from the counseling office to alert us to his condition. jackief William J. Foristal wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: HI Sue, LOL...I don't know the question. Have you ever dreamed that you were reading something but it was just gibberish and made no sense? That's what this was like. And all the while I was trying to tell him that I couldn't breathe. :) Hmm, a ball in the back of my pajamas, eh? I'm in big trouble. I don't sleep in pajamas! G Bill On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:33:06 -0800 Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Bill: It very well could have been. I really wouldn't worry that much about a single episode, but I would mention it to your doc the next time you happen to see him though. I heard that if you place a ball in the back of your pj's it helps. BG I bet you were just worried about that question that the prof asked you. Maybe it left you speachless. :) BTW what was the question? You haven't told us yet. BG Sue Hi Sue, Thanks for the information. The only thing I noticed is that when I had my one and only episode (if it was really an episode and not part of the dream) I was sleeping on my back. I rarely sleep on my back. Maybe that's the reason. G Bill Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues -- In the sociology room the children learn that even dreams are colored by your perspective I toss and turn all night.Theresa Burns, "The Sociology Room" Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
LI Re: Disparity in Infant Mortality Rates
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: Hi Jackie, And we still don't know the long term effects of the use of chlorinated pesticides back in the 50's and 60's. Remember Love Canal? There were hundreds of sites like it that never got the publicity that Love Canal did. There are still large residues of PCB's, DDT, Chlordane, Lindane...etc. in our soil, water and fish, wildlife etc. Makes one wonder if the real effects are a few generations in the future. Bill On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:21:59 -0600 Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Doc The asbestos thing is probably as great a risk. They just removed the asbestos above the auditorium I was teaching in 4 years ago when I was still teaching in it and there were at least 200 students in each class. We still have asbestos removal going on. jackief _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Flying Saucers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:51:34 -0600 Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: William J. Foristal wrote: Hi Jackie, And certainly incidents like the Heaven's Gate suicide don't do much to change that public perception and behavior. Also, the fact that people who have reported being abducted by aliens and taken aboard spaceships have never been the type of people that others take very seriously. Bill Hi Bill I wonder what would happen if someone that was esteemed and thought to be highly intelligent, etc. suddenly announced he/she had been abducted. jackief HI Jackie, Probably the same reaction as has been given to other stories, unless the person can provide more solid proof of the story. I think it's more revealing to consider why we haven't heard from highly intelligent and esteemed people being abducted by aliens. Or is that something planned by the aliens? G Bill _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
LI Re: Disparity in Infant Mortality Rates
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: Hi Jackie, What??? And deprive some people of the chance to be millionaires? And deprive the Pentagon of procuring their latest toys?? Surely you jest. Bill On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:03:49 -0600 Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Bill I know that it is not only poor sanitary conditions. Some have pointed out that when you consider the housing in general in some areas there are broken or cracked windows, inadequate heating and/or ventilation. So much can affect a young child. Think what that millions and millions being spent on you know what could accomplish. jackief William J. Foristal wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: Hi Jackie, It's certainly probable that there would be strong correlation between lead poisoning potential and other environmental hazards that could cause infant mortality even if the infant is not able to get access to the lead contaminated paint. I would think that a lot of infant mortality can be traced to extremely poor sanitary conditions. Bill On Mon, 09 Mar 1998 12:21:38 -0600 Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Bill For demographers, neonatal death occurs within the first 28 days and infant mortality within a year, I believe. I would imagine the medical profession uses the same cut-offs. So, I wonder if there would be many lead-based paint fatalities, I wouldn't think so. I have been on the internet to try and look up the town Sue mentions in regard to anencephalus, but no luck so far. One reason I would like to get information is that I have a lot of students majoring in nursing and other health related fields. I feel this information will be beneficial to them in the psychology, human development, course. I really appreciate everything that everyone on the list is posting. jackief _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues -- In the sociology room the children learn that even dreams are colored by your perspective I toss and turn all night.Theresa Burns, "The Sociology Room" Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Re: Sleep apnea/Interp.
"Dr.L.D.Misek-Falkoff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: https://www37.rapidsite.net/ozelin/dreamknower/order.htm Bill and all - $20 to have a dream interpreted, and bargain rates for multiple interpretations! Click the 'home' button at the bottom, it leads to extended posts on the meaning of dreams! Enjoy! :) LDMF Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Re: Disparity in Infant Mortality Rates
DocCec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 98-03-11 06:17:02 EST, you write: But the students learned what it was like to try to access the "helping?" organizations, to wonder where they would sleep or eat that night, and feel the contempt that others directed toward them. One thng I learned from experience during my "food stamps and Medicaid" days -- those helping organizations are much more willing to help you if you look and sound like you don't need it. Because I was well educated and had the remnants of a decent wardrobe, I was usually treated with reasonable respect. Those in line with me, often illiterate and not well laundered, were not. More than once I got scolded for helping some poor old man or woman fill out a form that was impossible for aged eyes to read or that was written in abstruse language that make the IRS look like clear speakers. As soon as I looked the scolding social worker straight in the eye and said something innocuous like "There but for the grace of God go you and I" she would back off, start calling me by my title and last name, and even say things like please and thank you. Image, it seems, is all. Doc Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Re: Update on Female Teacher in MN Accused of Sex with Student
Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Warning bells are ringing loud and clear in my head, this so called "teacher" is a pedophile, and she should be treated as such, just as men are treated that way in cases like this. Jackie Fellows wrote: Hi all Heard an update on the female teacher. She is still in jail. She is alleged to have had a 4 month relationships with the young man. She is also alleged to have had sexual relationships with two other young men--16 and 18, I believe. jackief -- Kathy E "I can only please one person a day, today is NOT your day, and tomorrow isn't looking too good for you either" http://members.delphi.com/kathylaw/ Law Issues Mailing List http://pw1.netcom.com/~kathye/rodeo.html - Cowboy Histories http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/2990/law.htm Crime photo's Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Why we're so tired!
Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That was a good one Bill! I'm LMAO! William J. Foristal wrote: WHY WE'RE SO TIRED For a couple years I've been blaming it on iron poor blood, lack of vitamins, dieting and a dozen other maladies. But now I found -- Kathy E "I can only please one person a day, today is NOT your day, and tomorrow isn't looking too good for you either" http://members.delphi.com/kathylaw/ Law Issues Mailing List http://pw1.netcom.com/~kathye/rodeo.html - Cowboy Histories http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/2990/law.htm Crime photo's Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Re: Disparity in Infant Mortality Rates
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Bill: Now please don't quote me on this, but i think that they do routine lead testing now on babies during their check ups. I do know that some of the symptoms of lead poisoning are colic, and anemia along with some others. But these two symptoms are the most noticeable. As for the autopsy, I would think that they would do this in the routine blood work that they do. But I don't know. Sue HI Sue, Good point. I wonder if they routinely test for lead poisoning during the autopsy's of infants who die. Bill -- Two rules in life: 1. Don't tell people everything you know. 2. Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Jim McDougal
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Bill: The guy who wrote this thing is way out there on another planet or something. He has come up with this idea that there is a CIA type of group who goes around killing anyone who hurts the president. They are there strictly to protect him no matter what. But then in the middle of the book he changes it around to say that they could also be there to help out Starr by killing these people and thus adding suspicion on to the President. It sounded like something that I would overlook on the book shelf that is for sure. BG You are right about one thing though, money can be made off of anything. I just wonder how many people actually believe this crap. Sue HI Sue, Wow...a book. So this guy can not only get the political benefits of spreading crap like this, he can also get money from others who like to read about it and use it to support THEIR crazy ideas. What a country!! Bill -- Two rules in life: 1. Don't tell people everything you know. 2. Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI BrainBenderz: Homophobia
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:17:10 -0800 Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -=Today's Puzzle: Homonyms are words that sound alike, though they are spelled differently. (Example: to, two, too) One pair of homonyms has meanings that are precisely opposite, and need not be stretched. What are the two spellings of this homonym?* HI Sue, There is a word that has two opposite meanings, although the spelling of the word does not change. The word is "cleave" which can mean "to adhere to" or "to cut away from". But I don't think that qualifies as a homonym since it's the same word. Bill _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
LI Re: Sleep apnea
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: Hi Kathy, I'll have to ask my wife if she dreams in color. This is very interesting. I wonder how much data has been collected on this one. Bill On Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:55:57 -0500 Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Bill :) I've read a little bit about dreams and the genders, I am by far not a expert but I found it interesting, from what I have read they say most men dream in black and white, and women dream in color, women tend to remember their dreams men don't. Why? I don't know, it's been years since I've read about it though. William J. Foristal wrote: That's exactly what happened. I couldn't breathe! :) BTW, do you know if you dream in color? T hat's another thing I never remember, even when I can remember the dream. Bill -- Kathy E "I can only please one person a day, today is NOT your day, and tomorrow isn't looking too good for you either" http://members.delphi.com/kathylaw/ Law Issues Mailing List http://pw1.netcom.com/~kathye/rodeo.html - Cowboy Histories http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/2990/law.htm Crime photo's Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Sexual predators and the FBI
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Kathy: This morning on the Today show they were talking about a program that they have now where they can actually trace back a posting to the person doing the posting. They have set up a site where when a person finds some of this porn going on they can log on to the site immediately without signing off, and the FBI takes over and traces the posts. Sue Hi all we were recently discussing porn on the net, this message came out from the FBI and it outlines their efforts to tackle sexual predators on the net. Child sexual predators are far more pervasive on the Internet than most parents suspect and law enforcement officials need to become more sophisticated to combat them, FBI officials said Tuesday. Federal Bureau of Investigation Director Louis Freeh told a Senate panel that no one really knew how widespread the problem is but that parents are too complacent about the dangers their children can encounter on their home computers. In one indication of the risks, FBI agent Linda Hooper said that when an agent pretending to be a teenage girl signed on to a ``chat room'' limited to 23 children, all 22 other ``youths'' turned out to be adults seeking improper contact with her. Freeh said the FBI has investigated at least 70 ''traveling'' cases in which an adult builds up trust with a young person through contacts on the Internet and convinces the minor to meet somewhere for illicit sexual purposes. Teenage girls are the most vulnerable. ``You used to be able to tell your kid, don't talk to strangers, don't take money from strangers,'' said Sen. Judd Gregg, chairman of the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on Commerce, Justice, State and the Judiciary. ``But now the stranger isn't outside the house. The stranger can be inside, on the Internet,'' added Gregg, a New Hampshire Republican. Congress last year gave the FBI $10 million to set up the ''Innocent Images'' program to combat child predators and child pornographers on the Internet. A program headquarters has been set up in Baltimore, and law enforcement agents are now trying to train more people in federal and local agencies. This week, the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children opened the CyberTipline on the Internet, (www.missingkids.com/cybertip/) where people can report tips and leads about possible cyber-exploitation. The program is run with FBI cooperation. Center President Ernest Allen said the tip line got 150 responses in just the first day. ``Individuals involved in the distribution and exchange of on-line child pornography and the recruitment of children for illicit sexual purposes are among the most sophisticated computer users the FBI is encountering,'' Freeh said. -- Two rules in life: 1. Don't tell people everything you know. 2. Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Re: Update on Female Teacher in MN Accused of Sex with Student
Robert Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hi jackie it sounds like this one might be a little diferant than the other one.but i wonder how it will be dealt with.it should be interesting.thanks for keeping us up on this case. bob,wa Jackie Fellows wrote: Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all Heard an update on the female teacher. She is still in jail. She is alleged to have had a 4 month relationships with the young man. She is -- I dont suffer from stress.I'M a carrier.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
LI Criminal Hall of shame
Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: NY Times, Monday, August 25, 1997 -- Alwyn Green of Jersey City, New Jersey, was arrested late Saturday night in Flatlands, Brooklyn. The suspected drug dealer phoned in a fake report of a police officer needing assistance, which served only to call attention to himself and the pound and a half of cocaine he had. According to police, Green reported an officer in trouble on East 36th Street. Officers who answered the call quickly realized that the report was false. When they learned that the call came from a telephone at Ryder and Flatlands Avenues, three blocks away, Sgt. Stephen Bruno and four other officers from the 63d Precinct headed there, and saw Mr. Green talking on a pay phone and holding a shopping bag. Seeing the police approach, Mr. Green hung up the phone and walked away, leaving the shopping bag behind, a police spokeswoman said. When the officers looked in the bag, which held cocaine, Mr. Green started running but was caught a block away. Mr. Green was also holding a knapsack that contained cocaine, the police said. The charges against him include reporting a false incident and criminal possession of drugs with intent to sell. === Excerpted from the Daily News (Bowling Green, KY), July 1997 Army Pvt. Daniel Christian Bowden was arrested at the Fort Belvoir Federal Credit Union in Fort Belvoir, Virginia, after a teller thought she recognized him as the man who robbed the bank several weeks earlier, according to an affidavit filed Tuesday. The robber did not wear a mask. Bowden told the teller he wanted to wire $2,900 to Texas and pushed a pile of cash across the counter to be deposited in his account, according to the affidavit. The bills' serial numbers matched a list of the $4,759 taken in the robbery, so the teller called military police. Bowden is a military police officer who had undergone training on handling bank robberies, law enforcement officials said. He is also a suspect in the May 12 robbery of another northern Virginia bank." === A guy in Conyers, Georgia, apparently "stole" his own Mercedes. He hid the car in his basement and then told the police that it had been stolen. The goal, apparently, was insurance fraud. However, he apparently forgot that his Benz was equipped with Lojak. The police activated the device and tracked the car to the man's basement. He has been arrested. = MIAMI BEACH (Reuters) - Miami Beach resident Todd Boucino was arrested by a posse of police officers after bungling an attempt at robbing a NationsBank branch on Washington Avenue -- just down the road from a precinct station. According to police spokesman Al Boza, Boucino walked into the bank, simulated carrying a concealed weapon, and told a teller "give me all the money." The teller fled, and Boucino helped himself to the cash. Just outside, a passing off-duty police officer heard the commotion and put out the alert. Running out of the bank, Boucino frantically tried to flag down a taxi but the driver, seeing bystanders gesturing in the background, refused to take him. As Boucino fled, he was "chased literally by a parade of officers ... I was one of them," Boza said. One cop having a snack in a diner joined in. The alleged robber managed to stop a cab in another street, but the chasing police officers caught him as he climbed in. They recovered the money; Boucino was charged with armed robbery. "This was an exercise in how not to rob a bank. He got the wrong day," Boza said. [Editor's Note: Sounds like he got the wrong line of work.] = SUBJ: I'll Take Door Number Three for Twenty-Five-to-Life, Please Inmate and would-be escapee Mark Conover had his choice of three doors when he made his break for freedom. He chose the wrong door. Upset that a Harris County, Texas, judge had revoked his bail for showing up late to court, Conover made a run for it. The inmate ran down a hallway connecting two misdemeanor courts, with deputies in hot pursuit. He passed the door to the stairwell. He passed the door to a courtroom. He chose door No. 3 -- the door that led to a prisoner holdover cell. "He was embarrassed," Baliff Toby Devine said. Conover, who was in court on a misdemeanor charge of driving with a suspended license, was apprehended and now faces felony escape charges. Because he is a habitual criminal, Conover's short-lived quest for freedom may prove very expensive. If convicted, his failed escape attempt could lead to a minimum of 25 years in prison. === SUBJ: At Least He Recognized His Station in Life At the Lancaster State Prison, an inmate had an insightful means of escape. He hid himself in a garbage dumpster knowing that in the
LI Titanic
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If anyone hasn't seen Titanic you have to see it. It really is a great movie. I know the boat sinks. BG But the story is really great, the acting wonderful, and the special effects are out of this world. You will love it, and the ending is a surprise. BTW the old lady who is up for an award, IMO, deserves it very much. Sue Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
LI Jokes for Tuesday
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1) Titanic Summarized -- Scene 1 - KATE WINSLET: Why, this is a fancy boat, isn't it? KATE'S WEASELLY FIANCE: Yes it certainly is. Here is the art you asked for. It is by an artist named "Picasso." I am certain he will amount to nothing. KATE: Ha ha ha. That is very funny to our 90's audience, because they know these priceless paintings will sink with the boat. LEONARDO DICAPRIO: Hello, I'm Leonardo DiCaprio. Perhaps you have seen the many Internet sites dedicated to the worship of me. You are very pretty. KATE: Thank you. So are you. LEONARDO: I know. Prettier than you in fact. I am going to put on my "brooding" face now, to ensure that women will keep coming back again and again to see this movie. Later, my white shirt will be soaking wet. KATE: While you're doing that, I will concentrate on standing here and looking pretty, to keep the men in the audience interested until the boat sinks and people start dying. WEASELLY FIANCE: Excuse me. I do not like you, Leonardo, even though you saved my fiancee's life. I am going to sneer at you and treat you like dirt because you're poor, and then I'll probably be physically abusive to my fiancee, and then, just to make sure the audience really hates me, and to make sure my character is entirely one-dimensional, perhaps I'll throw an elderly person into the water. AUDIENCE: Boo! We hate you! Even though all real people have at least a few admirable qualities, we have not been shown any of yours, and plus, you're trying to come between Leonardo and Kate, and so therefore we hate you! Boo! (Even though technically it is Leonardo who is coming between you and Kate. But Leonardo is handsomer than you, even though he is only 13, so we are on his side. Boo!) Scene 2 - LEONARDO: I'm glad we snuck away like this so that you could cheat on your fiance. KATE: So am I. Even though I am engaged to him and have made a commitment to marry him, that is no reason why you and I cannot climb into the backseat of a car and steam up the windows together. The fact that I am the heroine of the movie will no doubt help the cattle-like audience forgive me of this, though they would probably be VERY angry indeed if my fiance were to do the same thing to me. AUDIENCE: Darn straight we would! Moo! We mean, Boo! LEONARDO: I agree. First, I would like to draw you, though, so of course you have to take off your clothes. KATE:But can a movie with five minutes of continuous nudity be at all successful in say, Provo, Utah, where the audiences might not stand for that sort of thing? LEONARDO: I would be willing to bet that for the first three weeks the film is in release, every single showing at Wynnsong Theater in Provo will sell out. NARRATOR: According to Wynnsong manager Matt Palmer, that is exactly what happened. KATE: All right, then. (Sound of clothes hitting the floor.) Scene 3 - FIRST MATE: Captain, we're about to hit an iceberg. CAPTAIN: Great, I could use some ice for my drink. (Sound of drinking.) ICEBERG: (Hits boat.) FIRST MATE: That can't be good. CAPTAIN: Bottoms up! AUDIENCE: (Silence.) FIRST MATE: That was irony, you fools. AUDIENCE: Where's Leonardo? Scene 4 - LEONARDO: I have been informed that this boat is sinking. KATE: That is terrible. LEONARDO: Would you like to engage in some more immoral-but-justified behavior? KATE: Certainly. WEASELLY FIANCE: (Aside) I'm getting the raw end of the deal here! (to Leonardo) Listen, Leonardo, to cement my morally dubious yet somehow less annoying than you personality, I am going to handcuff you to this pipe, here in a room that will soon be filling with water, due to the fact that we are sinking, which I believe has been mentioned previously. LEONARDO: Why don't you just shoot me? WEASELLY FIANCE: Because then you wouldn't be able to escape and save Kate from me. Of course, you're going to die anyway... AUDIENCE: Don't spoil it for us! Boo! LEONARDO: He's right, though. I am doomed. AUDIENCE: Aww, look how cute he is when he's doomed. WEASELLY FIANCE: I hate you people. Scene 5 - 150-YEAR-OLD-KATE: And that's when Leonardo rescued me from my evil fiance and helped me float on a board in the water. Of course, if it hadn't been for having to rescue him, I could have gotten on an actual lifeboat, and not frozen my legs nearly off. Anyway, he's pretty much dead now, and I'm well over a thousand years old, and who's making my supper? I need a bath. Turn down that Enya music, it's making my ears hurt. You kids today, with your loud music. Why, when I was - hey! Don't you walk away from me! I'd turn you over my knee, if I had one. I'll beat you in the head with this huge diamond! Come back here! (Fade to black. Roll credits and play annoyingly overplayed Celine Dion song.) -- "A slipping gear could let your M203 grenade launcher fire when you least expect it. That would make you
LI Meteors
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi John: I thought that you might be interested in this. It also gives some sites that you can followup on. Sue -- The Learning Kingdom's Cool Fact of the Day for March 11, 1998 -- What are the fastest and slowest meteors? -- The fastest meteors are the extremely rare extrasolars, which can come streaking in from interstellar space at speeds up to 100 miles per second. These speedsters are almost too fast to see. Within the solar system, meteors are limited to the solar escape velocity of 26 miles per second, plus Earth's orbital velocity of 18 miles per second. The Leonids, which you can see before dawn around November 26, flash into the air at this combined speed of about 44 miles per second. The slowest meteors are the ones that come up behind the Earth, catching up to it as it moves in its orbit. The slow Camelopardalids, which will be visible around the 25th of March, drop gently into the atmosphere at about seven miles per second, which is just about Earth's escape velocity. For more cool facts about meteors, visit http://medicine.wustl.edu/~kronkg/. To learn about the Leonid meteor shower, visit http://see.msfc.nasa.gov/see/mod/leonids.html. -- Two rules in life: 1. Don't tell people everything you know. 2. Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
LI BrainBenderz: Who Is Lying?
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -=Today's Puzzle: Hyperborea is divided into three regions. Those who live in the southern region are known as Soroeans and always speak truthfully; those who live in the northern region are known as Nororeans and always speak falsely, and those who live in the middle region are known as Midroreans and make statements that are alternately true and false, but in which order is unknown. Apollo decides to visit the Hyperboreans, his most favored people, in disguise. He approaches three inhabitants and asks which region each represents. The three respond, as follows: A: I am a Sororean. B: I am a Nororean. C: 1. They are both lying. 2. I am a Midrorean. Assuming that each represents a different region, which is the Sororean, which is the Nororean, and which is the Midrorean?* -=Yesterday's Answer: Homophobia - Raise and Raze, which means "to erect" and "to tear down". -- Two rules in life: 1. Don't tell people everything you know. 2. Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
LI Millionaire Teenager update
Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A millionaire's teen-age daughter pleaded guilty today to manslaughter, admitting she helped her young boyfriend attack a drinking buddy who was found stabbed to death in Central Park. The plea bargain promises 16-year-old Daphne Abdela a sentence of three and one-third to 10 years. She could have faced a life sentence if she had been convicted of second-degree murder. Prosecutors declined to say whether Miss Abdela, daughter of a prosperous businessman, had agreed to testify against co-defendant Christopher Vasquez, also 16, as part of the deal. Her lawyer said testimony was not part of the agreement. Miss Abdela has implicated him previously in statements to police. The baby-faced teens were accused of murdering Michael McMorrow, 44, last May after a night of partying in the park's Strawberry Fields section. McMorrow, a real estate agent, was stabbed 30 times, and his body gutted and dumped into a lake. As she entered her plea, Miss Abdela told the court she participated in the assault that ended in McMorrow's death. She says she struck McMorrow and he fell to the ground, and she then saw Vasquez pull a knife and stab him. She apologized to the victim's family and her own, thanking her parents, who were present, for their support. She did not mention any motive. Her lawyer, Benjamin Brafman, told the court he had considered using his client's alcohol intoxication as a defense, but decided it wouldn't be effective. Police allegedly found the pair washing the victim's blood off in a laundry room at the Abdelas' posh Upper West Side apartment building, where the neighbors include opera star Kathleen Battle. Miss Abdela had blamed the killing solely on Vasquez, a working-class former altar boy, suggesting he might have flown into a jealous rage over her friendship with the older man, whom she met at an alcohol rehabilitation class. The girl did acknowledge telling Vasquez to "gut him so he'll sink." -- Kathy E "I can only please one person a day, today is NOT your day, and tomorrow isn't looking too good for you either" http://members.delphi.com/kathylaw/ Law Issues Mailing List http://pw1.netcom.com/~kathye/rodeo.html - Cowboy Histories http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/2990/law.htm Crime photo's Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
LI Another Planet
Richard Soderstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:36:34 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) Subject: Re: LI Flying Saucers Sody Sez This was too good to miss. I am from alpha centuri myself. I firmly believe anyone who keeps grerat big snakes must be from another planet, Maybe an astroid [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: Hi Sue, I wonder if any of them REALLY believes they are from another planet. Bill The dirty old Gandy Dancer Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
LI Jokes for Wednesday
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -= Top Ten Ways President Clinton Can Distract Attention From The Scandal =- 10. Make guest appearance on "Ellen" as "Ricky-the Gay Gabana Boy." 9. Have name of country officially changed to "Spiceworld." 8. Call himself "El Presidente" and ride around the White House on a Donkey. 7. Star in new movie about misunderstood genius, "Good Bill Clinting." 6. Begin State of Union address by announcing, "I am so baked right now, dude!" 5. Appear on CBS special, "Presidential Interns Do the Darndest Things." 4. Release rap album under name "Puff Puffy." 3. During press conference, use fly rod to yank off Sam Donaldson's toupee. 2. Appear on "Jerry Springer" and beat the crap out of Kenneth Starr. 1. Start harassing himself. -- Quotes on Recent Events "The 1998 Winter Olympics are under way in Nagano, Japan. CBS has promised 128 hours of coverage... that is, unless Monica Lewinsky gets a hair cut or something." - Conan O'Brien "The news this week is hot... even my Newsweek came in a plain brown wrapper." - Jay Leno "Newsweek and Time both have cover stories about the sex scandal. Meanwhile the Star and National Enquirer ran full coverage on the pope's visit to Cuba." - Cutler Daily Scoop "A former co-worker says Lewinsky often commented about how sexy Al Gore was. Okay, so now we know she's attracted to anything that does and doesn't move." - Conan O'Brien "While he was campaigning for office, Clinton told young people they should wait to have sex. Now we know what he wanted them to wait for. Him." - Jay Leno "Penthouse offered Lewinsky $2 million to pose nude. This confirms what Clinton said in his State of the Union address: He is creating high paying jobs for young people." - Jay Leno "You know, I think this whole thing started because interns are underpaid. Secret Service agents make $75,000 a year and they only have to take a bullet for the president." - Jay Leno "Conspiracy buffs claim that the celebrity skiing accidents are actually a conspiracy... the trees were planted." - Humor Newsgroup "A devout Hindu is suing Taco Bell for serving him a beef burrito instead of the bean burrito he ordered. He said the forbidden meat caused nausea, loss of sleep and many doctor's visits. In its defense, Taco Bell said the same thing would have happened if he'd gotten the bean burrito." - Unknown Source --- Two guys in a pickup truck were driving home one day, when they see a dirt road that was big enough for only one vehicle. They debated a while whether or not to explore what was down there. In the end, they decided to go for it. After driving down the road for a while, they saw a blonde standing on the side of the road. She asked for a ride, and they agreed, so she hopped in the back of truck. They continued driving down the road, when all of a sudden a semi-truck was coming right towards them. They swerved off the road and ended up in a river. The two guys got out in time, but they didn't see the blonde. They started to think the worst and feared she died. A few minutes later, she suddenly appeared and they incredulously asked her what happened. She said, "I couldn't get the tailgate open." -- WHAT THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART DOESN'T TELL YOU In the lower ranks of the MIS world, sorting out job titles is a nearly impossible task. Some folks are called Analysts. Some are called Programmers. Some are called Engineers. None of them has window offices. So I have listed -- from lowest to highest in order of prestige -- and described the 10 most commonly used job titles in a data processing shop. A truly experienced high-tech professional has held five or even six of these positions . . . usually all at the same time. 10. Programmer: This person holds the lowest rank in the DP field. Manages no one. Answers to everyone. Approximately 50% of the Programmer's time is scheduled for testing. Another 50% is spent filling out time cards and progress reports. Any time left over is spent attending classes on technologies that will never be used in the shop. The Programmer is appraised on code quality and reliability. Never has time to write any. Hopes to, someday, be promoted to Systems Analyst. 9. Systems Analyst: The Systems Analyst refuses to code anymore. Designs new systems. Writes specs for new systems. Devises procedures and work flows for new systems but ends up training users on how to get by with the old ones. Next in line for Team Leader position. 8. Team Leader: A Team Leader manages one project. Doesn't know why he's not called Project Leader; that's what he has on his resume. 7. Project Leader: Manages several projects at once. Analyzes Gantt charts from the Team Leaders' projects. Coordinates schedules from the Team Leaders' projects. Monitors deliverables from
LI Re: FBI Whistleblower Gets $300,000
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FBI Whistleblower Gets $300,000 -- The Justice Department agreed Wednesday to pay a $300,000 Privacy Act settlement to FBI crime lab whistleblower Frederic Whitehurst, who alleged the government spread false and derogatory information to discredit him. The government also agreed to speed the release to Whitehurst of 180,000 pages of FBI lab reports by examiners whose work he had criticized. After his reinstatement from a yearlong paid suspension last month, Whitehurst resigned from the bureau to head a group that will critique the forensic work of the FBI and other agencies. The Associated Press obtained a copy of the Justice settlement, which is in addition to one Whitehurst received last month from the FBI. In the earlier settlement, the FBI agreed to purchase $1.166 million worth of annuities that will pay the 50-year-old chemist-agent annual amounts equal to the salary and pension he would have earned had he kept working until normal FBI retirement at age 57. The bureau also paid $258,580 in Whitehurst's legal fees. The deal with Justice ends a lawsuit in which Whitehurst had claimed that, in retaliation for his whistleblowing, FBI and Justice officials attempted to discredit him by releasing damaging and incorrect information about him, his medical condition, his wife, his fitness for duty and internal investigations of him. The government did not admit any violations of Whitehurst's rights, but the $300,000 settlement is the largest ever for Privacy Act claims, which usually are settled for $5,000 or less, said Whitehurt's attorney Stephen Kohn. But Justice spokesman Bert Brandenburg said it was not the largest Privacy Act settlement because under an agremeent that was not writen into the settlement, more than $50,000 of the money was for Whitehurst's legal fees. ``The settlement payment sends a loud message that you shouldn't violate a whistleblower's rights to privacy,'' said Kohn. ``It also is a second good step to addressing the problems within the FBI crime lab. They recognize the problems and are dealing with them.'' Justice Department spokesman Joseph Krovisky confirmed the settlement had been reached but had no comment on it. Whitehurst, a lab supervisor who was once the FBI's top bomb residue expert, complained for 10 years mostly in vain about lab practices. But his efforts finally led last April to a scathing 500-page study of the lab by Justice Department Inspector General Michael Bromwich. Bromwich blasted the world-renowned lab for flawed scientific work and inaccurate, pro-prosecution testimony in major cases including the Oklahoma City and World Trade Center bombings. Bromwich recommended major reforms and discipline for five agents that is still under consideration. But he also accused Whitehurst of making ``overstated and incendiary'' allegations of intentional misconduct that Bromwich's investigators did not find, and he recommended that Whitehurst be transferred to other duties. Whitehurst is completing a rebuttal to that report. In the settlement, Justice officials agreed that the Justice Department's Internet website, where Bromwich's report is posted, also will carry a notice of where to find electronically or write for Whitehurst's reply. But the government refused to include an electronic link to Whitehurst's site. In exchange for getting 180,000 pages of lab reports sped to him under the Freedom of Information Act, Whitehurst agreed to limit his 1993 and 1995 FOIA requests to lab reports and trial testimony by 12 FBI examiners, including some criticized by Bromwich, such as Thomas Thurman, David Williams and Roger Martz. He agreed to forego reports from foreign counterintelligence cases and agreed to refrain from new FOIA requests for three years. The FBI agreed to look again for documents responsive to his requests for several case files, including the Unabomber, World Trade Center bombing and Pan Am 103 bombing cases. The settlement did not, however, end a 1997 lawsuit Whitehurst filed jointly with the National Association
LI Ramsey Update
Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There has been some stirrings concerning the Ramsey case, (A case I doubt they'll ever get a conviction on due to the evidence handling, if they even indict anyone.) Comments by Boulder District Attorney Alex Hunter suggest the JonBenet Ramsey case is moving closer to a grand jury. Hunter says sending the 14-month-old investigation to a grand jury has long been an option but is a ``more serious consideration'' now. He declined to elaborate. Cautioning that no final decision has been made, Hunter said the case that has received extraordinary media attention around the world could go to a grand jury by mid-year, possibly sooner. The prospect of the Ramsey mystery going to a grand jury is nothing new, but Hunter's comments Monday about that route are his strongest yet. (My thoughts, Hunter quit playing with the press, and do your job, it seems you forgot that there was a little girl murdered and some of us don't appreciate the game you have been playing for the past 15 months, of leaks to the media and such, we would prefer someone be convicted of murder instead of your ego being stroked). Grand jury proceedings -- which are secret -- determine whether a possible suspect can be bound over for trial and are sometimes used when a witness refuses to testify. Authorities have not fingered any prime suspects but they say the child beauty queen's parents -- John and Patsy Ramsey -- remain ``under the umbrella of suspicion.'' The Ramseys were questioned by police last year but have declined to be re-interviewed and thusfar have refused to allow detectives to speak with their 10-year-old son, Burke. JonBenet's strangled and battered body was found in the basement of the Ramsey home on Dec. 26, 1996, about eight hours after her mother told police she found a ransom note demanding $118,000. In other news concerning the case, A newspaper says detectives are almost certain nylon cord used to strangle child beauty queen JonBenet Ramsey came from a Boulder surplus store. The Boulder Daily Camera says police trying to find the kindergartner's killer purchased the Boulder Army Store's entire stock of Stansport white nylon utility cord last May 22. They sent samples to the Colorado Bureau of Investigation for comparison with the rope that was around the child's neck and right wrist when her body was found in her Boulder home Dec. 26, 1996. Police had no comment on the report, and a co-owner of the store would not discuss what detectives bought from the business, which is located a short distance from Access Graphics, the firm owned by JonBenet's father. Police believe JonBenet was strangled with a garrote that was tightened with a broken paintbrush handle found in the Ramseys' basement. -- Kathy E "I can only please one person a day, today is NOT your day, and tomorrow isn't looking too good for you either" http://members.delphi.com/kathylaw/ Law Issues Mailing List http://pw1.netcom.com/~kathye/rodeo.html - Cowboy Histories http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/2990/law.htm Crime photo's Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Flying Saucers
DocCec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 98-03-10 15:22:49 EST, you write: Greetings friends - and there is this perspective: human beings are from another planet. :) LDMF. Or two, if you count the Mars/Venus theory. Doc Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
