[lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk
Hi, All the development lib's are installed. Using the latest snapshot I can't compile a simple project. SUSE has always complained about GTK+ and GDK but it still compiled. Now with the SUSE 10.1 it really complains when using the RPM and will not compile a simple project. Anybody, have any work arounds for SUSE 10.1? John _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk
johnf schreef: Hi, All the development lib's are installed. Using the latest snapshot I can't compile a simple project. SUSE has always complained about GTK+ and GDK but it still compiled. Now with the SUSE 10.1 it really complains when using the RPM and will not compile a simple project. Anybody, have any work arounds for SUSE 10.1? Can you post the exact error messages? I don't have Suse, but I might be able to give a hint, if I see the error messages. Vincent. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] Re: Who needs Unicode controls.
On Tue, 16 May 2006 20:41:35 +0330, ik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: בTuesday 16 May 2006 19:08, כתבת: On Tue, 16 May 2006 09:34:05 -0500 (CDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take TEdit for example, which has been extended to contain properties like the Font property. Ok, you were making reference to the controls design, not the character enconding... Yes, I get, I know about OOP principles. Actually once I try to make a TFont descendant in a visual control, but It didn't allow me to replace. Actually, the Font property in visual controls, as an example of composition wasn't very well design it. A font depends on its TCanvas. It's not a separate thing. That's why you can assign values, but not replace the class. Properties like BiDi should be in the Font property, maybe. AFAIK you can't choose the Bidi of a font. Bidi is defined by the characters. An 'a' is always left-to-right, while an arabic character is always RTL, no matter what the font is called or setup. Can you define, what a BIDI property should do? You have non printable charechters for giving rules of how the pharagraph should be. But thats all. Another issues are the ponctuation points, thay are reverse chars - located inside a charechter rather then a new letter. There is no problem with right to left languages as long as there is no non right to left language inside the pharagraph. Whenever there is one, the problem begins. Thats where the BiDi algorithem take place... One of the reason why I think the FriBiDI should be in use, is because it's very stable and support 100% of the BiDi algorithem, while new implementation will cause many problems and bugs that already been solved over the years with FriBiDi. Mattias Ido I think what mattis said was that bidi property shouldnt be on font,and i guess thats right, bidi algorithms always take place for sets of charachters. And yes i guess i like the idea of having bidi and using fribidi. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !
So if you guys want to change the name, where does it leave users like me presenting papers at conferences and citing Lazarus in technical papers as my software of choice? I am asked a lot what software I use and I explicitly promote Lazarus/FPC. This thread make me believe that I will segfault myself to promote Lazarus as the rug will be pulled under serious users feet. Afte this I would rather tell the world I am using Delphi but behind the scenes use Lazarus as I know Delphi I cannot cite Lazarus in papers and then find..oh..it is now called Phoenix. I will in future not cite Lazarus as the name will probably change, but rather give personal credit to the authors who assisted me. Lazarus was a nice way to get around the Pascal-debunkers and it worked well, but I cannot cite something that is so mindlessly considered for rebranding. Usually a name change is associated with public pressure, which would be ok as the world requires it and users promoting it dont have to segfault. Thierry Andriamirado wrote: Le samedi 13 mai 2006 à 18:55 -0300, Flávio Etrusco a écrit : but as somebody already said some days ago in another thread, I think mixing religion with anything is a bad idea... I wouldn't mind I remember, after megido (?), and the beginning of Lazarus, I thought this name was a bad idea. why not Phenix, Phoenix... ? In fact I don't really care... few years after, I think that it's more important for the moment to communicate about what Lazarus can do and where it goes. If we decide to change the name, it's better to do it for example at the same time as 1.0, or any other important event. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !
Lv wrote: So if you guys want to change the name, where does it leave users like me presenting papers at conferences and citing Lazarus in technical papers as my software of choice? Nice to hear that not all users believe into the imo stupid idea to change the name. I don't think either that the board of directors of lazarus (Michael H., Matthias, Marc, Vincents, Micha et al.) consider a name change :) I am asked a lot what software I use and I explicitly promote Lazarus/FPC. This thread make me believe that I will segfault myself to promote Lazarus as the rug will be pulled under serious users feet. Afte this I would rather tell the world I am using Delphi but behind the scenes use Lazarus as I know Delphi I cannot cite Lazarus in papers and then find..oh..it is now called Phoenix. I will in future not cite Lazarus as the name will probably change, but rather give personal credit to the authors who assisted me. Lazarus was a nice way to get around the Pascal-debunkers and it worked well, but I cannot cite something that is so mindlessly considered for rebranding. Usually a name change is associated with public pressure, which would be ok as the world requires it and users promoting it dont have to segfault. Thierry Andriamirado wrote: Le samedi 13 mai 2006 à 18:55 -0300, Flávio Etrusco a écrit : but as somebody already said some days ago in another thread, I think mixing religion with anything is a bad idea... I wouldn't mind I remember, after megido (?), and the beginning of Lazarus, I thought this name was a bad idea. why not Phenix, Phoenix... ? In fact I don't really care... few years after, I think that it's more important for the moment to communicate about what Lazarus can do and where it goes. If we decide to change the name, it's better to do it for example at the same time as 1.0, or any other important event. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !
On Wed, 17 May 2006, Lv wrote: So if you guys want to change the name, where does it leave users like me presenting papers at conferences and citing Lazarus in technical papers as my software of choice? I am asked a lot what software I use and I explicitly promote Lazarus/FPC. This thread make me believe that I will segfault myself to promote Lazarus as the rug will be pulled under serious users feet. Afte this I would rather tell the world I am using Delphi but behind the scenes use Lazarus as I know Delphi I cannot cite Lazarus in papers and then find..oh..it is now called Phoenix. I will in future not cite Lazarus as the name will probably change, but rather give personal credit to the authors who assisted me. Lazarus was a nice way to get around the Pascal-debunkers and it worked well, but I cannot cite something that is so mindlessly considered for rebranding. To assure you: As far as I know, none of the core team considers a name change. And if they don't, it won't happen. Michael. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !
On 17/05/06, Florian Klaempfl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lv wrote: So if you guys want to change the name, where does it leave users like me presenting papers at conferences and citing Lazarus in technical papers as my software of choice? Nice to hear that not all users believe into the imo stupid idea to change the name. I don't think either that the board of directors of lazarus (Michael H., Matthias, Marc, Vincents, Micha et al.) consider a name change :) I agree. It is a stupid idea to change the name. There is nothing wrong with the name Lazarus. All it needs is a couple more bug fixes and a lot of PR work from it's users! Instead of waisting your energy and time following and writing to this thread, spend your time constructively with something like fixing bugs! Graeme. -- There's no place like 127.0.0.1 _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Who needs Unicode controls.
Mattias Gaertner wrote: Can you define, what a BIDI property should do? - When working with bidirectional text, the characters are still interpreted in logical order--only the display is affected. The display ordering of bidirectional text depends upon the directional properties of the characters in the text. - see http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr9/ Thanks! -- Al _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !
I agree. It is a stupid idea to change the name. There is nothing wrong with the name Lazarus. All it needs is a couple more bug fixes and a lot of PR work from it's users! 1000% agree! Instead of waisting your energy and time following and writing to this thread, spend your time constructively with something like fixing bugs! 1% agree! Fixing and reporting bugs, building application, promoting FPC/Lazarus, writing documentations, etc. for FPC/Lazarus is a lot more valueable contributions to this project instead of changing the name. I've been promoting FPC/Lazarus for more than a year to developers in my country, especially to Delphi developers. If the name will change, I'll no longer promoting it anymore. Don't we take a lesson from BORLAND - INPRISE - BORLAND (again) history? Changing name will requires unnecessary PR works! And if it REALLY will be changed, who'll guarantee it will not be changed once more? Please... stop this stupid, wasting energy and time discussion! For anybody who still insists to this name changing idea, I believe you're still allowed to build a new project based on Lazarus source codes and then name the project whatever you want. :p Just my 2 cents. :p -Bee- has Bee.ography at http://beeography.wordpress.com _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Who needs Unicode controls.
On Wed, 17 May 2006 13:55:31 +0300 Al Boldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mattias Gaertner wrote: Can you define, what a BIDI property should do? - When working with bidirectional text, the characters are still interpreted in logical order--only the display is affected. The display ordering of bidirectional text depends upon the directional properties of the characters in the text. - see http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr9/ Do you mean, the BIDI property defines how part numbers are presented, or if displaying BIDI is enabled? Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Re: Lazarus File bigger then Delphi File?
roozbeh gholizadeh wrote: On Wed, 10 May 2006 17:33:02 +0330, Jonas A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: let me ask you a few questions: are you still using 1.44 floppies? are you sending compiled execs 20 times a day via 56k modem connection? no? then why 1 or 2 mb bigger is so bad for you? Well apparently this is not a good reason! In wince my exe files with lazarus is about 14mg and after strip about 3-4mg,i dont think for a device with 12mg or 16mg memory,and at best 20mg storage room a 4-5mg exe is good! So yes in this case we are using 1.44 floppies and yes we are sending compile exes with less than 56kb modem to phone devices so 1-2mg bigger is not bad,it is worst! Maybe create KOL based widgetset for Lazarus or simply use KOL (http://xcl.cjb.net) for WinCE ? I have quite complicated message application with sqlite storage all in about 297 Kb EXE without compression under Windows XP. Perfect for Windows CE and other devices. Unfortunately it's only for WinAPI but compiles fine using FPC. Regards Boguslaw Brandys _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] fpcUnit patch
My previous post came back with a message saying that the .zip extention is a illegal attachment and was blocked (how stupid is that!). Here is the message again, with the attachment renamed. Please change it to .zip when saving it to disk. Graeme. --- Hi, Please find attached another contribution for the fpcUnit users. Changes apply to the components/fpcunit directory. This patch needs to be applied from the root Lazarus directory. Fixes: * Resized the height of the form to better fit a large list of tests. * Added a new image to the image treeview imagelist. Also included the .xpm file in the archive which might need to go into the Lazarus/images directory (not sure). * Enabled feedback while long tests are executing. The grey ball on each tree node now turns Blue while a test is running. Once the test is completed it change to Red, Magenta or Green based on the test outcome. * The progress bar also has better feedback. You can now see in move while tests are running. Graeme. -- There's no place like 127.0.0.1 fpcunit.patch.zipped Description: Binary data
[lazarus] Focus problem - EncloseSelectionDialog
I send a patch for EncloseSelectionDialog couple days ago to fixe a taborder / focus problem. This almost worked. But I see that the focus is not yet active on the radiogroup. I tried to fixe that again with an explicit form event but this is worst. procedure TEncloseSelectionDialog.FormActivate(Sender: TObject); begin TypeRadiogroup.SetFocus; end; When this code is added, there is no 'cursor' at all on the form. No focus at all and can't even use tad key to make the focus move arround. I can't see how to fix that. We must use the mouse to put the focus back in the form properly. I think to issue is maybe related to the focus problem when trying to dock forms in pannels of another form. This is almost the same problem: must use the mouse to put the focus back. -- Alexandre Leclerc _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] fpcUnit patch
Graeme Geldenhuys schreef: My previous post came back with a message saying that the .zip extention is a illegal attachment and was blocked (how stupid is that!). Here is the message again, with the attachment renamed. Please change it to .zip when saving it to disk. Who send that message, you receiving email provider? Because the original zip did reach the list and my computer. Vincent. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Who needs Unicode controls.
Mattias Gaertner wrote: Al Boldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mattias Gaertner wrote: Can you define, what a BIDI property should do? - When working with bidirectional text, the characters are still interpreted in logical order--only the display is affected. The display ordering of bidirectional text depends upon the directional properties of the characters in the text. - see http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr9/ Do you mean, the BIDI property defines how part numbers are presented, or if displaying BIDI is enabled? Bidi is a layout property, defining RTL/LTR , alignment, and flipping of entire forms/canvases. It should probably be a wrapper component calling an underlying library. Thanks! -- Al _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] fpcUnit patch
Hi, I double checked, this isn't my ISP. It seems to be some IT company in South Africa. I guess it must be someone that is part of the mailing list and their email provider doesn't like attachments. Still an idiotic way of trying to prevent viruses, etc.. Thanks for letting me know. In future I will ignore such bounced emails. Graeme. Forwarded --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailed-By: arivia.co.za To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 17-May-2006 13:22 Subject: [MailServer Notification]Attachment Blocking Notification Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Add sender to Contacts list | Delete this message | Report phishing | Show original | Message text garbled? The fpcunit.patch.zip has been blocked, and Replace has been taken on 5/17/2006 1:22:26 PM. Message details: Server:MPKWFX01 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Recipient:lazarus@miraclec.com; Subject:[lazarus] fpcUnit patch Attachment name:fpcunit.patch.zip --- END On 17/05/06, Vincent Snijders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who send that message, you receiving email provider? Because the original zip did reach the list and my computer. Vincent. -- There's no place like 127.0.0.1 _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
RE: [lazarus] fpcUnit patch
Looking at the rejecting address it could have been my address that caused the problem... Whenever a new virus comes out our mail server is set to reject zip files. -Original Message- From: Graeme Geldenhuys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 May 2006 14:07 PM To: lazarus@miraclec.com Subject: Re: [lazarus] fpcUnit patch Hi, I double checked, this isn't my ISP. It seems to be some IT company in South Africa. I guess it must be someone that is part of the mailing list and their email provider doesn't like attachments. Still an idiotic way of trying to prevent viruses, etc.. Thanks for letting me know. In future I will ignore such bounced emails. Graeme. Forwarded --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailed-By: arivia.co.za To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 17-May-2006 13:22 Subject: [MailServer Notification]Attachment Blocking Notification Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Add sender to Contacts list | Delete this message | Report phishing | Show original | Message text garbled? The fpcunit.patch.zip has been blocked, and Replace has been taken on 5/17/2006 1:22:26 PM. Message details: Server:MPKWFX01 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Recipient:lazarus@miraclec.com; Subject:[lazarus] fpcUnit patch Attachment name:fpcunit.patch.zip --- END On 17/05/06, Vincent Snijders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who send that message, you receiving email provider? Because the original zip did reach the list and my computer. Vincent. -- There's no place like 127.0.0.1 _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Compiling laz from svn + statistically linked components
In Windows, I was maintaining fpc 20x and fpc211 at various times. My solution was to rename the \pp directory to \pp20x or \pp211 and set the path variableto the location of the gnu libraries and fpc executables at the command prompt before launchinga make from the source directory. Since make build always targets the \pp directory (unless you change the parameters.),fpc will always end in the \pp directory. Just be sure you keep fpc.cfg"safe" and put your working copy in \pp\bin\i386-win32 directory.Ialso had to maintain separate directories for the source offpc. The only real drawback is that this eats a lot of disk space. Also, remember to change the source directories in the Lazarus environment.DanielAlexandre Leclerc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2006/5/13, Mattias Gaertner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: If you want to use two different lazarus with different setups, then start the second with /path/of/the/second/lazarus --primary-config-path=/home/username/.secondlazarus This way you can test new packages or new lazarus versions comfortably without poking in the files, that the IDE can automatically setup for you.So since, unfortunately, installing a package required to staticallycompile it in the current version of lazarus; with this trick I cankick-start another more recent version of lazarus that does not havethe components yet statically compiled in it? (And it will still workin the design time tools?)When I tested that (replacing the exe with another one) this did notworked quite well...-- Alexandre Leclerc_To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with"unsubscribe" as the Subjectarchives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.
Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !
Florian Klaempfl wrote: Lv wrote: So if you guys want to change the name, where does it leave users like me presenting papers at conferences and citing Lazarus in technical papers as my software of choice? Nice to hear that not all users believe into the imo stupid idea to change the name. I don't think either that the board of directors of lazarus (Michael H., Matthias, Marc, Vincents, Micha et al.) consider a name change :) Just for the record, I also think a name change is uncalled for. A name change would have serious consequences - and we could start promoting everything from zero since the new name will be even less known then Lazarus. The word Lazarus is neither offensive or more ambiguous than other well known projects and companies. One more comment: Cheetah is the simbol of FPC, not lazarus. A cheetah on a column is Lazarus. Now you don't see anyone calling FPC cheetah, nor calling Linux Pinguin. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !
Nice to hear that not all users believe into the imo stupid idea to change the name. I don't think either that the board of directors of lazarus Hi. I have start some message threads that finish in flame wars, like foundation one, which wasn't my intention. But I didn't start the message thread about changing name, I'll prefer Lazarus to get more mature, before changing name. I one of the ones who think that a new name is MUST, Lazarus seems fine for a project name, but I share the idea that taking the project to corporate world, will require a new name. And for the board of directors, what can I say, I just respect their work ;-) Just my 2 cents. - Marco Aurelio Ramirez Carrillo lazarus dot mramirez at star-dev dot com [dot mx] _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !
For anybody who still insists to this name changing idea, I believe you're still allowed to build a new project based on Lazarus source codes and I DIDN'T START THE TOPIC, but even that I think it's a good idea to change the name (in time), I would like to wait to see Lazarus more mature, and of course, ( MYSELF ) make some significant contributions or bug fixes before bothering other users ;-) Just my 2 cents. - Marco Aurelio Ramirez Carrillo lazarus dot mramirez at star-dev dot com [dot mx] _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 23:31, Vincent Snijders wrote: johnf schreef: Hi, All the development lib's are installed. Using the latest snapshot I can't compile a simple project. SUSE has always complained about GTK+ and GDK but it still compiled. Now with the SUSE 10.1 it really complains when using the RPM and will not compile a simple project. Anybody, have any work arounds for SUSE 10.1? Can you post the exact error messages? I don't have Suse, but I might be able to give a hint, if I see the error messages. Vincent. Of course I didn't provide enough info. Lazarus runs. It opens the projects and appears to edit correct, etc. But when I attempt to build a project I get the following error. /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgdk I currently have all the development lib's installed. In fact this is a update install and not a fresh install of SUSE 10.1. I still have my SUSE 10.0 development machine and it works correctly with the snapshot. Since I'm new to Linux and not really sure what -lgdk means I at a lost what to do next. Checking YAST and looking for 'gdk' I find that the gdk-pixbuf lib is reported installed. Actually, if you could explain what Lazarus is looking for or direct me to a link that explains what's happening I be happier. I need to learn. John _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Help Framework proposal
We could use the principle of interfaces yes, but I don't think it Wait, Delphi Help system is supported by interfaces, but Lazarus still doesn't, by the moment, right ? - Marco Aurelio Ramirez Carrillo lazarus dot mramirez at star-dev dot com [dot mx] _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Help Framework proposal
On Wed, 17 May 2006 09:25:13 -0500 (CDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could use the principle of interfaces yes, but I don't think it Wait, Delphi Help system is supported by interfaces, but Lazarus still doesn't, by the moment, right ? Right. At the moment you have to create a descendant to create your own help system/database/viewer. It's on my ToDo list to make a few things easier to override and write some examples. But I'm not sure, how many types of help systems will be written. According to the threads in the list it seems only a few (chm and open document. html and fpdoc already exists). So there is not much gain providing interfaces too. Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus Help System Requirements
one. For the moment I'm sticking on my SQLite+html idea. The html format Ça va. What about a SQLLite database that stores the help info, and a php script that calls that database... Just my 2 cents. - Marco Aurelio Ramirez Carrillo lazarus dot mramirez at star-dev dot com [dot mx] _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Who needs Unicode controls.
UTF-16 is multibyte. There are more unicode characters than 2 byte numbers, so you won't find a complete 2 byte unicode encoding. I read somewhere that there was a previous Unicode format that ALWAYS uses 2 bytes for each character, but DOESN'T support all languages. If I'm right, we can use that as a start to design a Unicode L.C.L., and eventually change to other format that support other languages. Just my 2 cents. - Marco Aurelio Ramirez Carrillo lazarus dot mramirez at star-dev dot com [dot mx] _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Who needs Unicode controls.
AFAIK you can't choose the Bidi of a font. Bidi is defined by the characters. An 'a' is always left-to-right, while an arabic character is always RTL, no matter what the font is called or setup. Can you define, what a BIDI property should do? I remember a post of a user that wanted to write (english) messages, right-left, but you're right, BIDI property dependes on the locale/font... - Marco Aurelio Ramirez Carrillo lazarus dot mramirez at star-dev dot com [dot mx] _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Who needs Unicode controls.
On Wed, 17 May 2006 09:52:46 -0500 (CDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UTF-16 is multibyte. There are more unicode characters than 2 byte numbers, so you won't find a complete 2 byte unicode encoding. I read somewhere that there was a previous Unicode format that ALWAYS uses 2 bytes for each character, but DOESN'T support all languages. If I'm right, we can use that as a start to design a Unicode L.C.L., and eventually change to other format that support other languages. The decision was to 'create' a unicode LCL with UTF-8 supporting all languages. *IF* we add properties/methods with widestrings, then they will be UTF-16, also supporting all languages. Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk
On Wed, 17 May 2006 08:25:43 -0700 johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 16 May 2006 23:31, Vincent Snijders wrote: johnf schreef: Hi, All the development lib's are installed. Using the latest snapshot I can't compile a simple project. SUSE has always complained about GTK+ and GDK but it still compiled. Now with the SUSE 10.1 it really complains when using the RPM and will not compile a simple project. Anybody, have any work arounds for SUSE 10.1? Can you post the exact error messages? I don't have Suse, but I might be able to give a hint, if I see the error messages. Vincent. Of course I didn't provide enough info. Lazarus runs. It opens the projects and appears to edit correct, etc. But when I attempt to build a project I get the following error. /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgdk I currently have all the development lib's installed. In fact this is a update install and not a fresh install of SUSE 10.1. I still have my SUSE 10.0 development machine and it works correctly with the snapshot. Since I'm new to Linux and not really sure what -lgdk means I at a lost what to do next. Checking YAST and looking for 'gdk' I find that the gdk-pixbuf lib is reported installed. I added this message to IDE help items. It will open the wiki page: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/Linker_message:_cannot_find_-l Actually, if you could explain what Lazarus is looking for or direct me to a link that explains what's happening I be happier. I need to learn. Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk
Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 08:25:43 -0700 johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 16 May 2006 23:31, Vincent Snijders wrote: johnf schreef: Hi, All the development lib's are installed. Using the latest snapshot I can't compile a simple project. SUSE has always complained about GTK+ and GDK but it still compiled. Now with the SUSE 10.1 it really complains when using the RPM and will not compile a simple project. Anybody, have any work arounds for SUSE 10.1? Can you post the exact error messages? I don't have Suse, but I might be able to give a hint, if I see the error messages. Vincent. Of course I didn't provide enough info. Lazarus runs. It opens the projects and appears to edit correct, etc. But when I attempt to build a project I get the following error. /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgdk I currently have all the development lib's installed. In fact this is a update install and not a fresh install of SUSE 10.1. I still have my SUSE 10.0 development machine and it works correctly with the snapshot. Since I'm new to Linux and not really sure what -lgdk means I at a lost what to do next. Checking YAST and looking for 'gdk' I find that the gdk-pixbuf lib is reported installed. I added this message to IDE help items. It will open the wiki page: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/Linker_message:_cannot_find_-l Actually, if you could explain what Lazarus is looking for or direct me to a link that explains what's happening I be happier. I need to learn. For SUSE, see also http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/Lazarus_Faq#I_have_SuSE_and_I_get_.2Fusr.2Fbin.2Fld:_cannot_find_-lgtk_Error:_Error_while_linking Vincent _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Help Framework proposal
On Wed, 17 May 2006 18:32:40 +0200 Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/17/06, Mattias Gaertner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: examples. But I'm not sure, how many types of help systems will be written. According to the threads in the list it seems only a few (chm and open document. html and fpdoc already exists). So there is not much gain providing interfaces too. For unix only applications, some showed interest in the Man Pages and Info help systems. Yes, and a few more HTML zipped specials and/or using databases. I guess less than 10 in total. Not much to add something to save a few lines of code at another place. Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk
On Wed, 17 May 2006 18:41:46 +0200 Vincent Snijders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 08:25:43 -0700 johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 16 May 2006 23:31, Vincent Snijders wrote: johnf schreef: Hi, All the development lib's are installed. Using the latest snapshot I can't compile a simple project. SUSE has always complained about GTK+ and GDK but it still compiled. Now with the SUSE 10.1 it really complains when using the RPM and will not compile a simple project. Anybody, have any work arounds for SUSE 10.1? Can you post the exact error messages? I don't have Suse, but I might be able to give a hint, if I see the error messages. Vincent. Of course I didn't provide enough info. Lazarus runs. It opens the projects and appears to edit correct, etc. But when I attempt to build a project I get the following error. /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgdk I currently have all the development lib's installed. In fact this is a update install and not a fresh install of SUSE 10.1. I still have my SUSE 10.0 development machine and it works correctly with the snapshot. Since I'm new to Linux and not really sure what -lgdk means I at a lost what to do next. Checking YAST and looking for 'gdk' I find that the gdk-pixbuf lib is reported installed. I added this message to IDE help items. It will open the wiki page: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/Linker_message:_cannot_find_-l Actually, if you could explain what Lazarus is looking for or direct me to a link that explains what's happening I be happier. I need to learn. For SUSE, see also http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/Lazarus_Faq#I_have_SuSE_and_I_get_.2Fusr.2Fbin.2Fld:_cannot_find_-lgtk_Error:_Error_while_linking Thanks for the hint. I added it to the page. Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Who needs Unicode controls.
I'm very much ignorant about widestrings, utf-16, and internationnal support in Lazarus. I mean, I have just no clue of what kind of work it requires. What needs to be changed in the lcl source code. If someone could point me to an example and the implications of the changes, I'll see if I'm able to give some help on the issue. 2006/5/17, Mattias Gaertner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 17 May 2006 09:52:46 -0500 (CDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UTF-16 is multibyte. There are more unicode characters than 2 byte numbers, so you won't find a complete 2 byte unicode encoding. I read somewhere that there was a previous Unicode format that ALWAYS uses 2 bytes for each character, but DOESN'T support all languages. If I'm right, we can use that as a start to design a Unicode L.C.L., and eventually change to other format that support other languages. The decision was to 'create' a unicode LCL with UTF-8 supporting all languages. *IF* we add properties/methods with widestrings, then they will be UTF-16, also supporting all languages. -- Alexandre Leclerc _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !
Perhaps we better rename Pascal... after all... what does Pascal mean? It Means Passover. It's a Jewish (Christian - Easter) holiday.:-) lazarus is as good a name as most. And I thought it was named for lazarus long. who is known to have written in his notebooks: Always listen to experts. They'll tell you what can't be done and why. Then do it. Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something. Never underestimate the power of human stupidity. Yield to temptation; it may not pass your way again and misunderstanding somethings he says: Anything free is worth what you pay for it. ---dale _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk
johnf wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 09:29, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 08:25:43 -0700 johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 16 May 2006 23:31, Vincent Snijders wrote: johnf schreef: Hi, All the development lib's are installed. Using the latest snapshot I can't compile a simple project. SUSE has always complained about GTK+ and GDK but it still compiled. Now with the SUSE 10.1 it really complains when using the RPM and will not compile a simple project. Anybody, have any work arounds for SUSE 10.1? Can you post the exact error messages? I don't have Suse, but I might be able to give a hint, if I see the error messages. Vincent. Of course I didn't provide enough info. Lazarus runs. It opens the projects and appears to edit correct, etc. But when I attempt to build a project I get the following error. /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgdk I currently have all the development lib's installed. In fact this is a update install and not a fresh install of SUSE 10.1. I still have my SUSE 10.0 development machine and it works correctly with the snapshot. Since I'm new to Linux and not really sure what -lgdk means I at a lost what to do next. Checking YAST and looking for 'gdk' I find that the gdk-pixbuf lib is reported installed. I added this message to IDE help items. It will open the wiki page: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/Linker_message:_cannot_find_-l Actually, if you could explain what Lazarus is looking for or direct me to a link that explains what's happening I be happier. I need to learn. Mattias I added 'Fl/opt/gnome/lib' and it does not work. So, it seems the FAQ didn't help you. Let's try it somewhat more structured: Where on your system is libgdk.so? What lines starting with -Fl are in your /etc/fpc.cfg? Do you have a ~/.fpc.cfg? Vincent. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk
On Wed, 17 May 2006 10:15:14 -0700 johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 09:29, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 08:25:43 -0700 johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 16 May 2006 23:31, Vincent Snijders wrote: johnf schreef: Hi, All the development lib's are installed. Using the latest snapshot I can't compile a simple project. SUSE has always complained about GTK+ and GDK but it still compiled. Now with the SUSE 10.1 it really complains when using the RPM and will not compile a simple project. Anybody, have any work arounds for SUSE 10.1? Can you post the exact error messages? I don't have Suse, but I might be able to give a hint, if I see the error messages. Vincent. Of course I didn't provide enough info. Lazarus runs. It opens the projects and appears to edit correct, etc. But when I attempt to build a project I get the following error. /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgdk I currently have all the development lib's installed. In fact this is a update install and not a fresh install of SUSE 10.1. I still have my SUSE 10.0 development machine and it works correctly with the snapshot. Since I'm new to Linux and not really sure what -lgdk means I at a lost what to do next. Checking YAST and looking for 'gdk' I find that the gdk-pixbuf lib is reported installed. I added this message to IDE help items. It will open the wiki page: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/Linker_message:_cannot_find_-l Actually, if you could explain what Lazarus is looking for or direct me to a link that explains what's happening I be happier. I need to learn. Mattias I added 'Fl/opt/gnome/lib' and it does not work. -Fl/opt/gnome/lib ^ Did you install the gdk-devel package? Do you have a libgdk.so? Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus Help System Requirements
one. For the moment I'm sticking on my SQLite+html idea. The html format Ça va. What about a SQLLite database that stores the help info, and a php script that calls that database... No PHP required really. A CGI program written in Pascal that calls some sort of database, and a desktop application that can call that database too. This keeps only one codebase needed for the entire help system - the same database is used for both the web docs and the desktop docs - just that the desktop doc is using an embedded database while the web application may use a real full fledged version of the database. But most websites will only need to use an embedded database because 99 percent of all Pascal applications are not going to have high traffic websites that require a database that can do complex queries fast. Especially on help documents which people will rarely be checking on the website, since they have a local copy - the online docs are mainly for promotional purposes to get a bunch of keyword heavy pages out on the net promoting your software. The reason I currently use Google to search for freepascal documentation on the RTL instead of using my local copy of my help documents, is because Google itself is my database that powers the search of the freepascal documentation. Some of you just use grep maybe - I laugh at those people. But if I had a proper local database there would be no need to search google. Whether the database is a CHM database or an embedded DBF or SQL database doesn't matter - the disadvantage of CHM is simply that I can't port CHM to the web database in one shot - since a CHM database won't work on a website. And for those special cases where you have a Windows CE computer, that can't run an embedded database? Think again, most likely someone has already ported the database to Windows CE. CHM format was never intended to work on Windows CE so CHM be an external dependency, as you'd have to have the user download an external CHM reader for Windows CE. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 10:32, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 10:15:14 -0700 johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 09:29, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 08:25:43 -0700 johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 16 May 2006 23:31, Vincent Snijders wrote: johnf schreef: Hi, All the development lib's are installed. Using the latest snapshot I can't compile a simple project. SUSE has always complained about GTK+ and GDK but it still compiled. Now with the SUSE 10.1 it really complains when using the RPM and will not compile a simple project. Anybody, have any work arounds for SUSE 10.1? Can you post the exact error messages? I don't have Suse, but I might be able to give a hint, if I see the error messages. Vincent. Of course I didn't provide enough info. Lazarus runs. It opens the projects and appears to edit correct, etc. But when I attempt to build a project I get the following error. /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgdk I currently have all the development lib's installed. In fact this is a update install and not a fresh install of SUSE 10.1. I still have my SUSE 10.0 development machine and it works correctly with the snapshot. Since I'm new to Linux and not really sure what -lgdk means I at a lost what to do next. Checking YAST and looking for 'gdk' I find that the gdk-pixbuf lib is reported installed. I added this message to IDE help items. It will open the wiki page: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/Linker_message:_cannot_fin d_-l Actually, if you could explain what Lazarus is looking for or direct me to a link that explains what's happening I be happier. I need to learn. Mattias I added 'Fl/opt/gnome/lib' and it does not work. -Fl/opt/gnome/lib ^ Did you install the gdk-devel package? Do you have a libgdk.so? Mattias First I installed everything available to install for development. I do have 'libgdk-1.2.so.0'. Should there be a soft link to libgdk.so? On the SUSE 10.0 there is a libgdk.so. Johnf _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus Help System Requirements
2006/5/17, L505 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: one. For the moment I'm sticking on my SQLite+html idea. The html format Ça va. What about a SQLLite database that stores the help info, and a php script that calls that database... No PHP required really. A CGI program written in Pascal that calls some sort of We should od it in PSP (http://www.psp.furtopia.org/cgi-bin/psp/index.psp) :) I think it would ba a shame for us not to do a pascal cgi for such a job. ;) -- Alexandre Leclerc _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk
On Wed, 17 May 2006 10:49:13 -0700 johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 10:32, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 10:15:14 -0700 johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 09:29, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 08:25:43 -0700 johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 16 May 2006 23:31, Vincent Snijders wrote: johnf schreef: Hi, All the development lib's are installed. Using the latest snapshot I can't compile a simple project. SUSE has always complained about GTK+ and GDK but it still compiled. Now with the SUSE 10.1 it really complains when using the RPM and will not compile a simple project. Anybody, have any work arounds for SUSE 10.1? Can you post the exact error messages? I don't have Suse, but I might be able to give a hint, if I see the error messages. Vincent. Of course I didn't provide enough info. Lazarus runs. It opens the projects and appears to edit correct, etc. But when I attempt to build a project I get the following error. /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgdk I currently have all the development lib's installed. In fact this is a update install and not a fresh install of SUSE 10.1. I still have my SUSE 10.0 development machine and it works correctly with the snapshot. Since I'm new to Linux and not really sure what -lgdk means I at a lost what to do next. Checking YAST and looking for 'gdk' I find that the gdk-pixbuf lib is reported installed. I added this message to IDE help items. It will open the wiki page: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/Linker_message:_cannot_fin d_-l Actually, if you could explain what Lazarus is looking for or direct me to a link that explains what's happening I be happier. I need to learn. Mattias I added 'Fl/opt/gnome/lib' and it does not work. -Fl/opt/gnome/lib ^ Did you install the gdk-devel package? Do you have a libgdk.so? Mattias First I installed everything available to install for development. I do have 'libgdk-1.2.so.0'. Should there be a soft link to libgdk.so? On the SUSE 10.0 there is a libgdk.so. The soft link is normally set by the gdk-devel package. Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus Help System Requirements
2006/5/17, Alexandre Leclerc [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2006/5/17, L505 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: one. For the moment I'm sticking on my SQLite+html idea. The html format Ça va. What about a SQLLite database that stores the help info, and a php script that calls that database... No PHP required really. A CGI program written in Pascal that calls some sort of We should od it in PSP (http://www.psp.furtopia.org/cgi-bin/psp/index.psp) :) I think it would ba a shame for us not to do a pascal cgi for such a job. ;) :D I just saw that you are the guy with the PasWiki :) LOL! -- Alexandre Leclerc _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 10:56, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 10:49:13 -0700 johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 10:32, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 10:15:14 -0700 johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 09:29, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 08:25:43 -0700 johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 16 May 2006 23:31, Vincent Snijders wrote: johnf schreef: Hi, All the development lib's are installed. Using the latest snapshot I can't compile a simple project. SUSE has always complained about GTK+ and GDK but it still compiled. Now with the SUSE 10.1 it really complains when using the RPM and will not compile a simple project. Anybody, have any work arounds for SUSE 10.1? Can you post the exact error messages? I don't have Suse, but I might be able to give a hint, if I see the error messages. Vincent. Of course I didn't provide enough info. Lazarus runs. It opens the projects and appears to edit correct, etc. But when I attempt to build a project I get the following error. /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgdk I currently have all the development lib's installed. In fact this is a update install and not a fresh install of SUSE 10.1. I still have my SUSE 10.0 development machine and it works correctly with the snapshot. Since I'm new to Linux and not really sure what -lgdk means I at a lost what to do next. Checking YAST and looking for 'gdk' I find that the gdk-pixbuf lib is reported installed. I added this message to IDE help items. It will open the wiki page: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/Linker_message:_cannot _fin d_-l Actually, if you could explain what Lazarus is looking for or direct me to a link that explains what's happening I be happier. I need to learn. Mattias I added 'Fl/opt/gnome/lib' and it does not work. -Fl/opt/gnome/lib ^ Did you install the gdk-devel package? Do you have a libgdk.so? Mattias First I installed everything available to install for development. I do have 'libgdk-1.2.so.0'. Should there be a soft link to libgdk.so? On the SUSE 10.0 there is a libgdk.so. The soft link is normally set by the gdk-devel package. Mattias I created the soft link and I ran 'ldconfig'. But it still will not link. What is next? John _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 20:08, johnf wrote: What is next? I had the same error due to a fpc.cfg containing -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.0.0/units/$fpctarget -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.0.0/units/$fpctarget/* -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.0.0/units/$fpctarget/rtl instead of -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/$fpcversion/units/$fpctarget -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/$fpcversion/units/$fpctarget/* -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/$fpcversion/units/$fpctarget/rtl when compiling with a fpc 2.0.0. The paths are different on Suse, but the problem may be similar _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 11:20, Den Jean wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 20:08, johnf wrote: What is next? I had the same error due to a fpc.cfg containing -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.0.0/units/$fpctarget -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.0.0/units/$fpctarget/* -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.0.0/units/$fpctarget/rtl instead of -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/$fpcversion/units/$fpctarget -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/$fpcversion/units/$fpctarget/* -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/$fpcversion/units/$fpctarget/rtl when compiling with a fpc 2.0.0. The paths are different on Suse, but the problem may be similar Not my issue. I'm going to attempt to remove the gdk lib using YAST and reinstall. John _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk
On Wed, 17 May 2006 20:20:56 +0200 Den Jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 20:08, johnf wrote: What is next? I had the same error due to a fpc.cfg containing -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.0.0/units/$fpctarget -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.0.0/units/$fpctarget/* -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.0.0/units/$fpctarget/rtl instead of -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/$fpcversion/units/$fpctarget -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/$fpcversion/units/$fpctarget/* -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/$fpcversion/units/$fpctarget/rtl when compiling with a fpc 2.0.0. The paths are different on Suse, but the problem may be similar The above are only unit paths. Then the error would be cannot find unit. If there is a linker error the compiler leaves the link.res file. Please have a look and see if the path to libgdk.so is there. Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 11:31, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 20:20:56 +0200 Den Jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 20:08, johnf wrote: What is next? I had the same error due to a fpc.cfg containing -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.0.0/units/$fpctarget -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.0.0/units/$fpctarget/* -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.0.0/units/$fpctarget/rtl instead of -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/$fpcversion/units/$fpctarget -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/$fpcversion/units/$fpctarget/* -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/$fpcversion/units/$fpctarget/rtl when compiling with a fpc 2.0.0. The paths are different on Suse, but the problem may be similar The above are only unit paths. Then the error would be cannot find unit. If there is a linker error the compiler leaves the link.res file. Please have a look and see if the path to libgdk.so is there. Mattias Where might the link.res be created? John _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Help Framework proposal
On 5/17/06, Mattias Gaertner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's on my ToDo list to make a few things easier to override and write some examples. But I'm not sure, how many types of help systems will be written. According to the threads in the list it seems only a few (chm and open document. html and fpdoc already exists). So there is not much gain providing interfaces too. The framework should be created looking in the future, and that is being flexible to whatever db or viewer people invent. Temporary solutions tend to become permanent. thanks, -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Re: Lazarus File bigger then Delphi File?
On 5/17/06, Bogusław Brandys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe create KOL based widgetset for Lazarus Won't solve anything. LCL is too big. There are too many features, and thus pascal units to be linked to get lcl working, so any LCL widgetset will generate big executables. What would help is really powerful smartlinking (being able to rip unused methods inside a unit for example). LCL adds some things, like being able to load a form from XML. This requires a parser, and parsers are big, so this adds size to software. The final size is a big sum of all the features. A powerful smartlinking would kill all unecessary stuff. or simply use KOL (http://xcl.cjb.net) for WinCE ? Now this would make software smaller. But then you loose the cross-platform hability, the form designer and LCL component repository. thanks, -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] New Qt patch
On Tuesday 09 May 2006 22:25, Den Jean wrote: I will look into it. Done in V1.15 Enums with only assigned (parsable) values are sorted (sorted on the value) The enums that have been sorted have a (2s) in the comments like : ... QEventType = ( //QEvent::Type (2s) ... _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk
On Wed, 17 May 2006 11:55:48 -0700 johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 11:31, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 20:20:56 +0200 Den Jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 20:08, johnf wrote: What is next? I had the same error due to a fpc.cfg containing -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.0.0/units/$fpctarget -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.0.0/units/$fpctarget/* -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.0.0/units/$fpctarget/rtl instead of -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/$fpcversion/units/$fpctarget -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/$fpcversion/units/$fpctarget/* -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/$fpcversion/units/$fpctarget/rtl when compiling with a fpc 2.0.0. The paths are different on Suse, but the problem may be similar The above are only unit paths. Then the error would be cannot find unit. If there is a linker error the compiler leaves the link.res file. Please have a look and see if the path to libgdk.so is there. Mattias Where might the link.res be created? If you compiled lazarus, then in the main directory. If you compiled one of your projects, then in the project directory. Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Re: Lazarus File bigger then Delphi File?
On Wed, 17 May 2006 16:04:04 -0300 Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/17/06, Bogus__aw Brandys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe create KOL based widgetset for Lazarus Won't solve anything. LCL is too big. There are too many features, and thus pascal units to be linked to get lcl working, so any LCL widgetset will generate big executables. Ehm. The widgetsets are in no way optimized for smartlinking. I guess, by optimizing a few things we can easily reduce the size by half. What would help is really powerful smartlinking (being able to rip unused methods inside a unit for example). Won't help. For example at the moment the gtk callbacks use case statements with all kind of controls. This must be improved. LCL adds some things, like being able to load a form from XML. This requires a parser, and parsers are big, so this adds size to software. True. But this makes less than 5% of the code. The final size is a big sum of all the features. A powerful smartlinking would kill all unecessary stuff. or simply use KOL (http://xcl.cjb.net) for WinCE ? Now this would make software smaller. But then you loose the cross-platform hability, the form designer and LCL component repository. Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Re: Lazarus File bigger then Delphi File?
Mattias Gaertner wrote: Won't help. For example at the moment the gtk callbacks use case statements with all kind of controls. This must be improved. LCL adds some things, like being able to load a form from XML. This requires a parser, and parsers are big, so this adds size to software. True. But this makes less than 5% of the code. The final size is a big sum of all the features. A powerful smartlinking would kill all unecessary stuff. I know this isn't what everyone is really wanting to hear when they're discussing this, but I'll add my $.02 USD into the discussion more from an esoteric corporate view than a lazarus coding view. I wrote TruckBytes using Lazarus. It's a full featured graphically pleasing database application designed to run a trucking company. The total download is around 2 MB compressed, including the SSL libraries I redistribute. An equivalent program written using Visual C++ in a Microsoft environment would never see the light of day for less than 20 MB. The database engine alone would probably be 3/4 of the total distributed program. If done in VB, the runtimes for VB alone would be large. Sure you could force your users to download it separately, but if you want to reduce customer support issues you distribute everything you need. Back to TruckBytes. The EXE is around 3.9 MB all said and done, plus supporting SSL dll's for the Windows version. I have 200 GB of hard disk space. I have 2 GB of RAM. I have 3 Mb download speed. If I was a nut about trying to reduce EXE size I'd use a macro assembler and a 6502 processor (yes, I've done that before.) Bloat used to be an issue in code when the code was pushing the limits of what the computers could handle. Sure you can talk about bloat like it's still a horrible problem, but when it comes down to it the question is do I want to waste 4 months or more of development to reduce code size or use some preconfigured lego blocks that produce a larger EXE? I'll go for the 4 months of man-hours saved. Of course that's a corporate view and really holds no bearing on the discussion of how to reduce the LCL size, I just want to point out that 1 MB exe versus 4 MB exe really doesn't make a darn bit of difference unless your computer was built in the mid 90's. Or you're simply writing a console app, in which case you shouldn't use the LCL anyway. Keep in mind I'm not saying use this to justify NOT optimizing the LCL or smartlinking. I'm just saying weigh the time spent coding where it's best utilized, for instance GTK2, QT, OSX, better compatibility or bug squishing. The above statement's obviously don't apply if you're writing for PocketPC / Windows Mobile. -Tony _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Re: Lazarus File bigger then Delphi File?
What would help is really powerful smartlinking (being able to rip unused methods inside a unit for example). Theres no such thing, that is what smartlinking is - KOL is designed around this but many people hate KOL because it uses old Objects and requires a bit of thinking - and most people could care less about Exe size - I happen to care a bit, because the first impression of the user is always important - I'm not anal about using KOL for every app, but I use it lots.. it's fun to have a challenge to write a KOL app instead of it being so easy too - but I'm crazy - only crazy people use KOL. Boguslaw is crazy too and so is Thaddy. Don't use KOL unless you are crazy and like being crazy :-) _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus Help System Requirements
On 5/17/06, L505 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reason I currently use Google to search for freepascal documentation on the RTL instead of using my local copy of my help documents, is because Google itself is my database that powers the search of the freepascal documentation. Some of you just Just for interest sake, how do you use Google? Using the site: command in the search box...? eg: site:freepascal.org GetPropValue Regards, Graeme. -- There's no place like 127.0.0.1 _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 12:53, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 11:55:48 -0700 johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 11:31, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 20:20:56 +0200 Den Jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 20:08, johnf wrote: What is next? I had the same error due to a fpc.cfg containing -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.0.0/units/$fpctarget -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.0.0/units/$fpctarget/* -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.0.0/units/$fpctarget/rtl instead of -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/$fpcversion/units/$fpctarget -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/$fpcversion/units/$fpctarget/* -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/$fpcversion/units/$fpctarget/rtl when compiling with a fpc 2.0.0. The paths are different on Suse, but the problem may be similar The above are only unit paths. Then the error would be cannot find unit. If there is a linker error the compiler leaves the link.res file. Please have a look and see if the path to libgdk.so is there. Mattias Where might the link.res be created? If you compiled lazarus, then in the main directory. If you compiled one of your projects, then in the project directory. Mattias The 4 line has 'SEARCH_DIR(/opt/gnome/lib)' See attached link.res and a list of lib's from /opt/gnome/lib SEARCH_DIR(/lib/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/X11R6/lib/) SEARCH_DIR(/opt/gnome/lib/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/lazarus/components/sqldb/lib/i386-linux/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/lazarus/lcl/units/i386-linux/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/lazarus/lcl/units/i386-linux/gtk/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/lazarus/packager/units/i386-linux/) SEARCH_DIR(./) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/rtl/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/libasync/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/paszlib/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/pasjpeg/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/syslog/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/sqlite/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/oracle/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/opengl/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/libpng/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/gdbint/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/ncurses/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/svgalib/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/postgres/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/lexyacc/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/unzip/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/mysql/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/netdb/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/libgd/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/imlib/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/ibase/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/graph/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/gnome/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/fpgtk/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/forms/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/gconf/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/unixutil/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/cdrom/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/regexpr/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/zlib/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/uuid/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/utmp/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/odbc/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/newt/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/libc/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/gtk2/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/hash/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/gdbm/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/fftw/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/pthreads/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/zvt/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/tcl/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/x11/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/gtk/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/ggi/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/fcl/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/bfd/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/local/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/rtl/) SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/) INPUT( /usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/rtl/cprt21.o /usr/lib/crti.o /home/johnf/myjunk/project1.o /usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/rtl/system.o /usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/rtl/lineinfo.o /usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/rtl/strings.o /usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/rtl/objpas.o /usr/lib/lazarus/lcl/units/i386-linux/gtk/interfaces.o /usr/lib/lazarus/lcl/units/i386-linux/forms.o /home/johnf/myjunk/unit1.o /usr/lib/lazarus/components/sqldb/lib/i386-linux/sqldblaz.o /usr/lib/lazarus/lcl/units/i386-linux/interfacebase.o /usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/rtl/types.o /usr/lib/fpc/2.1.1/units/i386-linux/rtl/classes.o
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus Help System Requirements
On 5/17/06, L505 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reason I currently use Google to search for freepascal documentation on the RTL instead of using my local copy of my help documents, is because Google itself is my database that powers the search of the freepascal documentation. Some of you just Just for interest sake, how do you use Google? Using the site: command in the search box...? eg: site:freepascal.org GetPropValue Exactly: site:freepascal.org docs The keyword docs helps filter out mailing list stuff and other pages.. if you just want to target in on the Documentatoin just type in Docs keyword in addition to the site. So: site:freepascal.org docs getpropvalue instead of just site:freepascal.org getpropvalue And don't always use this: site:www.freepascal.org Skip the www prefix, incase you find something in community.freepascal, etc. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] exec-shield problems
I am encountering problems on Fedora Core 5, in that lazarus crashes on
displaying some design time forms. The problem seems to be in the
JITForms.pp the code arounf line 920:
CodeTemplate:=MethodAddress('DoNothing');
CodeSize:=100; // !!! what is the real codesize of DoNothing? !!!
GetMem(NewCode,CodeSize);
Move(CodeTemplate^,NewCode^,CodeSize);
creates some new code on the heap, which exec-shield does not like. It
can be fixed as root by:
echo 9 /proc/sys/kernel/exec-shield
(The default value is 11 on my system) but I was wondering if there was
a better way to fix this. Reading a bit about exec-shield indicated that
executable code on the heap was not portable, so this problem could
appear elsewhere.
Colin
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Re: [lazarus] exec-shield problems
On Wed, 17 May 2006 22:39:05 +0100
Colin Western [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am encountering problems on Fedora Core 5, in that lazarus crashes on
displaying some design time forms. The problem seems to be in the
JITForms.pp the code arounf line 920:
CodeTemplate:=MethodAddress('DoNothing');
CodeSize:=100; // !!! what is the real codesize of DoNothing? !!!
GetMem(NewCode,CodeSize);
Move(CodeTemplate^,NewCode^,CodeSize);
creates some new code on the heap, which exec-shield does not like. It
can be fixed as root by:
echo 9 /proc/sys/kernel/exec-shield
(The default value is 11 on my system) but I was wondering if there was
a better way to fix this. Reading a bit about exec-shield indicated that
executable code on the heap was not portable, so this problem could
appear elsewhere.
It is planned to use virtual events in the designer. Then the above will not
be needed anymore.
This touches TReader, TWriter, OI and the TMethodPropertyEditor.
Mattias
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Re: [lazarus] Lazarus Help System Requirements
2006/5/17, L505 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: one. For the moment I'm sticking on my SQLite+html idea. The html format Ça va. What about a SQLLite database that stores the help info, and a php script that calls that database... No PHP required really. A CGI program written in Pascal that calls some sort of We should od it in PSP (http://www.psp.furtopia.org/cgi-bin/psp/index.psp) :) I think it would ba a shame for us not to do a pascal cgi for such a job. ;) Thanks for recommending the site. I actually recently upgraded the site to have a new look. Micha once told me off for table designed websites because they Sux0r. Trustmaster originally threw up the PSP website many years ago which used Tables. I'm converting the PSP website to pure Div based site soon. It uses Div's now but still old table code exists :-) If Micha is listening I wanted to thank him now for getting me out of my stubborn table design thinking I used to be stuck in, because all sites I've created with Div's are working out nicely. Our psp devel mailing list has grown more in 2006 already than expected. But be warned that PSP is not a perfect copy of Websnap/intraweb. PSP is definitely not copying Borland because we found that Websnap architecture was too complex. Although, many HTML helpers and visual tools are being worked on, and we are working on more plug-ins for lazarus and MSEGUI/MSEIDE and other text editors to make web development more organized and easier. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] wince patch
This patch: * adds arrow unit and tarrow support * fixes timage,now images being displayed * add spinedit unit * add checklist unit for tchecklist box * fixed some missed pchar to pwidechar conversions * updated for new rtl * new winapiemu unit for emulating missing windows apis -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ wince.rar Description: Zip archive
Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !
Dale Welch a écrit : Perhaps we better rename Pascal... after all... what does Pascal mean? It Means Passover. It's a Jewish (Christian - Easter) holiday.:-) Pascal comes from the name of the French mathematician, physician and philosopher, Blaise Pascal (1623-1662) who built a famous mechanical calculator. mm _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] no widestring support in FreeBSD4
Hi, since I'm sort of a lazy updater I didn't notice earlier: Lazarus doesn't compile on FreeBSD 4 any more, since some newer functions are missing. Linking ../lazarus /home/marc/fpc-2.0.2/lib/fpc/2.0.2/units/i386-freebsd/rtl/cwstring.o: In function `CWSTRING_LOWERWIDESTRING$WIDESTRING$$WIDESTRING': /home/marc/fpc-2.0.2/lib/fpc/2.0.2/units/i386-freebsd/rtl/cwstring.o(.text+0x460): undefined reference to `towlower' /home/marc/fpc-2.0.2/lib/fpc/2.0.2/units/i386-freebsd/rtl/cwstring.o: In function `CWSTRING_UPPERWIDESTRING$WIDESTRING$$WIDESTRING': /home/marc/fpc-2.0.2/lib/fpc/2.0.2/units/i386-freebsd/rtl/cwstring.o(.text+0x4e0): undefined reference to `towupper' /home/marc/fpc-2.0.2/lib/fpc/2.0.2/units/i386-freebsd/rtl/cwstring.o: In function `CWSTRING_COMPAREWIDESTRING$WIDESTRING$WIDESTRING$$LONGINT': /home/marc/fpc-2.0.2/lib/fpc/2.0.2/units/i386-freebsd/rtl/cwstring.o(.text+0x79c): undefined reference to `wcscoll' lazarus.pp(113,1) Error: Error while linking Error: /home/marc/fpc-2.0.2/bin/ppc386 returned an error exitcode (normal if you did not specify a source file to be compiled) gmake[2]: *** [lazarus] Fehler 1 I were able to find at least towlower and towupper in the sources of FreeBSD 5 and I'm asking myself how I can deal with that. The drawback for me is, I'm nailed to version 4 for sime time. My Questions: Can the use of cwstring be switched off? If not, what would be the most appropriate way of handling the missing functions? (I'd tend to write them in pascal into an .inc included by $ifdef-ing) TIA, Marc _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 18:24, m2 wrote: Dale Welch a écrit : Perhaps we better rename Pascal... after all... what does Pascal mean? It Means Passover. It's a Jewish (Christian - Easter) holiday.:-) Pascal comes from the name of the French mathematician, physician and philosopher, Blaise Pascal (1623-1662) who built a famous mechanical calculator. mm Yes, I know this. Blaize Pascal is a very famous christian having written pensees which is also a theological treatise. but his name comes directly from paschal which comes from passover which is the jewish holiday celebrated at the time christians celebrate what is now popularly called easter. Jesus had gone to jerusalem for the Paschal feast when he was arrested and killed. i was just showing that even the language has a link even if most people don't realize it. And you might get someone who gets upset and claims it's offensive to them. But we have things named from many of the major ( minor) religions since what people call culture is often a part of some religion. Just live with it. :-) ---dale _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
